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Old January 28th, 2008, 12:31 PM   #1
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How Pakistani Punjabis Perceive Sikh Girls?

Source: http://intellibriefs.blogspot.com/20...eive-sikh.html

I had decided a while ago that I should write this e-mail, but other things always came first. Today i read something very shocking on an e-group, about bibian going out with muslim boys. What was most shocking was that people on the group just seemed to accept this. But can I ask why do we accept this?

In the last few years, I have become quite involved with some of these situations, not intentionally, but by accident. As some of you may know I now live in Leeds, which is right next to Bradford (Mini-Pakistan). Over the last year, when I went to some of the local Gurdwaras ( there are many), I would occasionally get distraught parents come up to me telling me to talk to their children. The reason they asked me, because I can speak english, british-born sikh, who attempts to practice. It started off with one girl who said she madly wants to marry a muslim boy, her parents will not agree, so they brought her to talk to me. Naturally I was a bit shocked, but I spoke to her at the gurdwara. She told me how much they loved each other, she was going to convert and they were going to marry. I asked her if he really did love her. She said yes. I said, "You are going to convert for him, out of love. I do not ask him to take Amrit, but will he, out of love for you, just come to the gurdwara, and just bow in front of Sahib Siri Guru Granth sahib ji. Surely if you can convert for him, he can do this much for you?"

To cut the story short, he would not. She stuck by him, two weeks later ran off with him. They were not seen for six weeks, until she came home, after he had dumped her for another girl. Two other cases came to me, different in structure, but similar storyline. Eventually, I thought enough is enough. I went on the gurdwara stage and spoke about muslims, panjabi girls, fundamental muslim groups, etc. Guru Maharaj de kirpa, the sangat responded, an ever-expanding youth group has been set-up, we did the shabad-Guru samagam,which included a youth camp,in which this subject was particularly discussed. Now the youth are getting ready to create mass education on Sikhi in this area, as this was seen as a starting point.

I KNOW THIS IS A LONG E-MAIL, BUT IMPORTANT. PLEASE READ ON.

Since the smamgam, because of the camp I have had another 4 cases. I know maharaj will help all those who need it. But I have noticed a pattern which i what I want to share. Every situation is different, different ages, environment, etc. But one fundamental pattern.

There are two types of muslim boys;
FUNDAMENTAL MUSLIM - these usually belong to particular groups. They do not care for the individuals, they look at who she is. They target sikh,hindu,christain and jewish girls. Romancing, flattery, games, etc, to get these in girls in their circle, leading towards conversion. Shocking as it may seem these boys truely believe if they convert a non-muslim into Islam, then they will be Mukt. (Liberated)
NON-RELIGIOUS MUSLIMS - they care little about religion, for them it is a social thing. If they go out with pakistani girls and get them pregnent, their community forces them to get married. They do not want to get married, but just go with girls. So they INTENTIONALLY pick sikh/hindu/white girls, because they can do what they want, there is no comeback. If the girls get pregnent, their community does not care, these are just cheap girls for their boys to use as they grow up. They are not pakistani muslim girls, who are pure. hence the pakistani community a major superiority complex over the others.

PUNJABI GIRLS - Notice i call them punjabi, because they have little knowledge on Sikhi, and no practice. The pattern I have found in the girls is what i call the "Bollywood Concept". These girls wholeheartedly believe love will conquer all. As in films, there is a social divide, their parents are against it, their community is against, but no matter love will always win. However these poor girls get a reality check, when the boy`s sisters, mother and other family do not want this "cheap" girl" in their family. Or the boy has had his fun and wants to move on to the next girl, or get maried to a respectable girl. Love suddenly disappears, and she is left humilliated in front of her friends, family and community FOR LIFE, because people do not forget.

I am not racist. I know punjabi boys are just as bad. But we as a community have got to look at how muslims percieve us. They do target punjabi girls, because they are considered easy. Many years ago, A hindu brahmin journalist wrote in a national newspaper, "The Daily Telegraph" that sikh girls are the most uninhibited, ie.(cheap), in the asian community. Fundamental muslim do target sikh girls, they are desparate for a dastaar wale girl just to humiliate sikhs. How are we as a community reacting. Why do we accept this? Why are our girls so niave that they think everything is so innocent. Why do they play games?

the muslim community here, has a major problem of pakistani girls running away with non-muslims, due to seeing the hypocrisy and attitudes of muslims boys. However the are trying to tackle the situation, hence have a 5million pound grant for a school for muslim girls.

We as sikhs look at Sarbat da bhalla (consideration for all mankind). But we also have realise not everyone else is like that. We as a community cannot tolerate our community to be precieved in this way. We are not cheap or asain trash. The sikh community should be the most moral, upstanding, hardworking, civilised and sophisticated society as created by our Guru`s. THAT IS OUR STANDARD.

A benti to everyone, have some self-respect! Especially to all the Bibian, do not let girls who are your friends behave like this. Say something. Educate them. It is not innocently going to the cinema with some boys, who happen to be muslims. The deeper they go the more they get burned.

I know alot of people may not like this e-mail, or will disagree with it. Some people may say there is not a problem. If you go to any college, uni, etc, you will see there is a problem. DO YOUR COMMUNITY A FAVOUR, DO NOT ACCEPT IT!!!!!

Source: http://intellibriefs.blogspot.com/20...eive-sikh.html

I came across this blog and thought it would be a good conversation and would help spread awareness.
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Old January 28th, 2008, 12:37 PM   #2
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lol @ anti-paki camp. I bet they have sashes, badges, and pedophilic leaders like the boy-scouts.

but yay for cheap, easy sikh girls!
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Old January 28th, 2008, 12:37 PM   #3
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Old January 28th, 2008, 12:37 PM   #4
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Old January 28th, 2008, 12:42 PM   #5
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Old January 28th, 2008, 12:44 PM   #6
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Old January 28th, 2008, 12:47 PM   #7
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There are 3 types of Muslim boys.

You forgot the "blow yourself up to get 72 virgins" type.
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th sikh community in the uk needs to get one thing through their thick heads. pakistani muslims alone are to blame for getting your women pregnant its your women opening their legs too.

no this may sound harsh but its not like the pakistani men in the uk are going around raping your women against their will. your women that get pregnant are just as stupid as the pakistani men that have sex with them in the first place.

its about time you people get your heads out of your asses and realise that the reason why you have this problem is because its a failing on your side of the community for not giving your girls a good religious upbringing, in the same way these pakistani men havent been given a good islamic upbringing.

instead of coming up with these bullshit theories and pointing fingers its high time you guys start looking into your community and its failings.
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Every year 100,000 Hindu & Sikh girls are eloping with muslims by way of rape & blackmail.
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Submitted by Nisha (India), May 29, 2007 at 09:57

I agree with you . As an Indian living in capital Delhi , I know many cases where Muslims posing as Hindu boys meet and date educated Hindu / Sikh girls , they are show their love and care , As soon as the girl agrees to go to date with a muslim boy , he give them drugs ( sleeping pills) in tea / coffee and gang rape them as soon as they are unconscious. They take their nude photos and video movies. They show them when they are conscious and blackmail them to be exploited physically and financially. They even order them to bring few of their friends ( girls) along with them next time. They repeat the same thing with their friends as well. The racket grows.

There have been so many cases. Unlike West , The girls will not open her mouth and tell to her family because of the fear of family elders. Even if some girl will tell her family members , they will try to keep her silent becasue this exposure can do damage to family prestige and honour. In the end the girl is badly exploited . Either she is converted to Islam and made muslim. Or she is sold to the prostitute pimps ( who are muslims majority) for prostitution . The money they get is used to lure and trap new girls to repeat the same menace. In public the girl is forced to give statements in favour of Islam and she is even forced to confess that she loves so and so muslim boy and she willingly went with him because muslim boys and his friends threaten her to do so and they also do Islamic Ritual Slaughter ( Halal) of animals in front of her and threaten her that If she dare to open her mouth in front of police , media or anyone else , They will make sure that she and her family members are also murdered in the same cruel way.............

This is the real story of thousands of Indian ( Non Muslim ) girls. I know this because two of my friends suffered this hell . One of them was forced to convert to Islam and produce dozen kids and pray five times to allah . Second friend committed suicide. I wrote to many influential people and media but they are afraid to take up the issue as muslims are involved in this episode and taking this issue can prompt any Mulla to give a call of Jehad to his Friday worshippers and his office can be ransacked and he can be murdered in broad daylight. and Politicians don't wont to speak any word because they are afraid of loosing muslim votes because 200 million muslims in India are almost 20 % and they vote en masse and this matters a lot in Democracy like India.............

This could be happen to any girl now ...........and its growing in almost every city.

source: http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/95111
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th sikh community in the uk needs to get one thing through their thick heads. pakistani muslims alone are to blame for getting your women pregnant its your women opening their legs too.

no this may sound harsh but its not like the pakistani men in the uk are going around raping your women against their will. your women that get pregnant are just as stupid as the pakistani men that have sex with them in the first place.

its about time you people get your heads out of your asses and realise that the reason why you have this problem is because its a failing on your side of the community for not giving your girls a good religious upbringing, in the same way these pakistani men havent been given a good islamic upbringing.

instead of coming up with these bullshit theories and pointing fingers its high time you guys start looking into your community and its failings.
I think the main problem is that our Hindu and Sikh girls have this preconceived notion that Muslim guys are all tough because they are all Jihadis so being with them they will get more attention.. and we all know how attention-cravy our girls are. It's kind of like white girls wanting "black dick"... you know... blacks are views as THUGS-- in the same manner muslims are viewed as such-- so our girls really just want to be with Thugs.. and that's the problem.
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Every year 100,000 Hindu & Sikh girls are eloping with muslims by way of rape & blackmail

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all guys are horny bastards,now if the gals had any sense they shud know not to shag any dude,1st they shud say,marry me if u love me then sexy time,rather than be sweet talked into bed!!!!!!
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I think the main problem is that our Hindu and Sikh girls have this preconceived notion that Muslim guys are all tough because they are all Jihadis so being with them they will get more attention.. and we all know how attention-cravy our girls are. It's kind of like white girls wanting "black dick"... you know... blacks are views as THUGS-- in the same manner muslims are viewed as such-- so our girls really just want to be with Thugs.. and that's the problem.
yeah spot on.
We all know the mind of a woman, sikh or otherwise. potrays herself as an innocent woman on a search for her knight in shining armour whilst secretly fantasizing how she'd love to own a ruthless beast of a man with no emotions which she honestly thinks shed be able to change.

i mean id love the person who wrote that blog to come here and explain to me which muslim guy seduced this young sikhni to semi nude revealing pics of herself on RD just less than ten minutes ago.
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yeah spot on.
We all know the mind of a woman, sikh or otherwise. potrays herself as an innocent woman on a search for her knight in shining armour whilst secretly fantasizing how she'd love to own a ruthless beast of a man with no emotions which she honestly thinks shed be able to change.

i mean id love the person who wrote that blog to come here and explain to me which muslim guy seduced this young sikhni to semi nude revealing pics of herself on RD just less than ten minutes ago.
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all guys are horny bastards,now if the gals had any sense they shud know not to shag any dude,1st they shud say,marry me if u love me then sexy time,rather than be sweet talked into bed!!!!!!

condoms...ever heard of them?

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It's simple. Hindu and Sikh community is far more liberal in every way. They allow their daughters to socialize freely with people of different faiths instead of keeping them chained in the bedroom. I blame the parents as much anyone else.

And to be fair, trying to portray Pakis as the sole culprits is counterproductive, why are these filthy whores so easily willing to give up their faith and heritage ? It's not like they're being raped, they're willingly eloping with the Muslim guys. The key here is to become more conservative and hardline when it comes to certain communities. I'd go into it further but then I'd end up getting banned like the threadmaker.
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But aren't all desi girls in UK the same?

I know couple of my sikh punjabi friends in UK are dating pakistani women. I wonder if they're just using them for sex.

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It's simple. Hindu and Sikh community is far more liberal in every way. They allow their daughters to socialize freely with people of different faiths instead of keeping them chained in the bedroom. I blame the parents as much anyone else.

And to be fair, trying to portray Pakis as the sole culprits is counterproductive, why are these filthy whores so easily willing to give up their faith and heritage ? It's not like they're being raped, they're willingly eloping with the Muslim guys. The key here is to become more conservative and hardline when it comes to certain communities. I'd go into it further but then I'd end up getting banned like the threadmaker.
I wouldn't go that far, but I agree that parents of these "whores" need to be little more strict to them.
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To be honest it was the sikh community that I respected the most till yet in india

You have left out many variables to the argument

So your argument is incomplete and it is showing only one side of the coin

And I find it unfair that you have stated it like that

You really need to sit down and talk to people
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But aren't all desi girls in UK the same?
I know couple of my sikh punjabi friends in UK are dating pakistani women. I wonder if they're just using them for sex.
LOL no they are not & that's a bit far fetched to say dont ya think?

You find mixed dating all over the place not just the UK.
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Every year 100,000 Hindu & Sikh girls are eloping with muslims by way of rape & blackmail.
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Submitted by Nisha (India), May 29, 2007 at 09:57

I agree with you . As an Indian living in capital Delhi , I know many cases where Muslims posing as Hindu boys meet and date educated Hindu / Sikh girls , they are show their love and care , As soon as the girl agrees to go to date with a muslim boy , he give them drugs ( sleeping pills) in tea / coffee and gang rape them as soon as they are unconscious. They take their nude photos and video movies. They show them when they are conscious and blackmail them to be exploited physically and financially. They even order them to bring few of their friends ( girls) along with them next time. They repeat the same thing with their friends as well. The racket grows.

There have been so many cases. Unlike West , The girls will not open her mouth and tell to her family because of the fear of family elders. Even if some girl will tell her family members , they will try to keep her silent becasue this exposure can do damage to family prestige and honour. In the end the girl is badly exploited . Either she is converted to Islam and made muslim. Or she is sold to the prostitute pimps ( who are muslims majority) for prostitution . The money they get is used to lure and trap new girls to repeat the same menace. In public the girl is forced to give statements in favour of Islam and she is even forced to confess that she loves so and so muslim boy and she willingly went with him because muslim boys and his friends threaten her to do so and they also do Islamic Ritual Slaughter ( Halal) of animals in front of her and threaten her that If she dare to open her mouth in front of police , media or anyone else , They will make sure that she and her family members are also murdered in the same cruel way.............

This is the real story of thousands of Indian ( Non Muslim ) girls. I know this because two of my friends suffered this hell . One of them was forced to convert to Islam and produce dozen kids and pray five times to allah . Second friend committed suicide. I wrote to many influential people and media but they are afraid to take up the issue as muslims are involved in this episode and taking this issue can prompt any Mulla to give a call of Jehad to his Friday worshippers and his office can be ransacked and he can be murdered in broad daylight. and Politicians don't wont to speak any word because they are afraid of loosing muslim votes because 200 million muslims in India are almost 20 % and they vote en masse and this matters a lot in Democracy like India.............

This could be happen to any girl now ...........and its growing in almost every city.

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lol...okay,,i onli read the first line and it made me laff,,neways u said the sikh girls are ELOPING with the muslim guys by rape?!

loll...eloping...yall are funny..
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