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Old February 26th, 2006, 05:34 PM   #451
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i dunno

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gill_%28clan%29

Most of Gills converted to Sikhism during the period of Guru Hargobind. Gills also sided with 6th Guru in the battle of Mehraj. The descendents of Shergill, one of the eight sons of Gillpal, settled in Zira area.



read that above link. probably.

Bhim Singh Dahiya traces Gills to the people of Greece. He opines that people of this tribe came in the company of Alexander. Then settled in Kabul, Kandhar and Punjab. One of the sons of Hercules was named Gilla. It is also possible that ancestors of Gills came to Greece from Middle Asia and then to India.

The people of Sipra Sub-Clan of Gill clan had mostly migrated towards Jhang. Most of them converted to Islam. Gills in Kabul are Moslems.

there's a place in Iran called Gilan Province, http://www.irancaravan.com/GPr.htm

so people think Gills are from when Alexander started mixing Greeks with Scythians and Indians....cuz later Scythians came to settle in Northern India, and that genetic group (and perhaps the Huns) gave them most of their genetic identity as Aryan...it was specifically a Turkic-type of gene though, considering Turks were the people in the entire Central Asian area after Scythians 'died out' (or rather I surmise, were ancestors of them in some way because they had similar cultures/origins).

but the Greek influence (Mediterranean) in Gills is also documented amongst gypsies in France, since Gill is a old family name there (like a lot of other Jatt clan names are family names in Europe).
very intersting
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Old February 26th, 2006, 11:05 PM   #452
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b/c many jatt clans claim their origins in afghanistan

Did not know that.........but it explains why a lot of the Jatts I know have light skin and eyes.
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Old February 26th, 2006, 11:17 PM   #453
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Old February 26th, 2006, 11:22 PM   #454
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Did not know that.........but it explains why a lot of the Jatts I know have light skin and eyes.

I thought that was due to Aryan Heritage and/or Scythian Origins?
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Old February 26th, 2006, 11:29 PM   #455
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I thought that was due to Aryan Heritage and/or Scythian Origins?
yeah, its not afghani...its aryan
even the afghanis originate from the aryan empire
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Im the only Jatt here. Ha, awsomeness.
uhh noo jatti in the house

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Old February 26th, 2006, 11:34 PM   #457
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Cuz I can only talk to ppl whom are on my level, as told to me by my father.

Im a Bajwa, Nadia Bajwa. Caste: Jatt.




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kulshreshth, which means best family generation

kayasth, they've been argued to be sudra, vaishya and brahman, but theyre government so primarily known as kshatriyas. about 5 million of them UP-Gujarat, also known to inter-marry a lot, cous we're to good, gangstar
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dunno what caste im from

do muslims have castes?
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Old February 27th, 2006, 12:29 AM   #459
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mai caste- lubana ..i dont tink u kno bout this caste but therez hell lot of lubanez in new york. therez a gurudwara too in new york. i tink its called baba makhan singh lubana gurudwara.

well mai last name is "manihani" prounce it it like "money honey"

but m a sikh..datz da onli thing dat matters to me
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castes dont mean shit in my family anymore, but the last to adhere to it was my great-grandfather and his last name was DULALL and he was a KSHATRIYA.
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Old February 27th, 2006, 02:30 AM   #461
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dunno what caste im from

do muslims have castes?
no , BUT some South Asian Muslims treat "Sayed" as a caste cuz of the remaining hindu customs
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Old February 27th, 2006, 02:32 AM   #462
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no , BUT some South Asian Muslims treat "Sayed" as a caste cuz of the remaining hindu customs
do you mean religious customs? you're not truly muslim then if you practice pagan rituals, are you?
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Old February 27th, 2006, 03:06 AM   #464
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mai caste- lubana ..i dont tink u kno bout this caste but therez hell lot of lubanez in new york. therez a gurudwara too in new york. i tink its called baba makhan singh lubana gurudwara.

well mai last name is "manihani" prounce it it like "money honey"

but m a sikh..datz da onli thing dat matters to me
i know lubanas very well.
u guys dominate Richmond Hills don't u
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caste:gaur/aadya gaur brahmin (bharadwaj gotra) from the himalayas
we himalayan folk are very hardy, atheletic and good looking

and i can take any jatt, any day, any time ...after all, my ancestors were curiously generals amongst other things and our kuldeva ( family diety) is Narsimha deva ( half man-HALF LION!!!) and kul devi ( family goddess) is durga maa...in our families, half the people went into the army stuff and half in more brahmin\academic related stuff...i got the warrior genes what!

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i know lubanas very well.
u guys dominate Richmond Hills don't u
i dont live in new york
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do you mean religious customs? you're not truly muslim then if you practice pagan rituals, are you?

well i mean social customs, and for your second question, yes paganistic rituals would put someone outside of Islam. However the caste oriented custom is wrong but does not necessarily put someone out of Islam unless they take it to an extreme
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well i mean social customs, and for your second question, yes paganistic rituals would put someone outside of Islam. However the caste oriented custom is wrong but does not necessarily put someone out of Islam unless they take it to an extreme
ahh, gotcha
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