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Old May 23rd, 2005, 05:05 PM   #1
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attack the americans.....whats the point in killing iraqis on purpose who are just going about there daily lifes????

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Car bomb blasts rock Iraqi town


A grieving woman at the scene of the killing of Wael Rubaie
Two car bombs have exploded in the northern Iraqi town of Tal Afar, causing heavy loss of life.
Officials said at least 20 people were killed in the attack, and others were trapped as a building collapsed.

The attacks came at the end of a day of violence in Iraq, that included bomb attacks on a mosque and a restaurant, which killed at least 24 other people.

In another incident, the commander of a new unit set up to fight insurgents was shot dead in the capital, Baghdad.

The bombs in Tal Afar went off outside the home of a community leader, Hassan Baktash, who has links with Massoud Barzani's Kurdistan Democratic Party.

The explosion brought the building crashing down.



"I don't have a final number for the dead or wounded but it's between 20 and 30," a police source told Reuters, adding "some are still trapped."

Elsewhere, a car bomb exploded outside a Shia mosque in Mahmoudiya, a town south of Baghdad. At least seven people were killed and more than 20 injured.

Doctors said many of the casualties were children.

"The kids were playing outside the mosque when a car came up quickly and then exploded," said a witness, Mohammed Awad.

Customers hit

Earlier in the day, another car bomb went off outside the popular Habayibna restaurant in the Shia-dominated Talibiya area of Baghdad.

The attack came during a busy time for the restaurant.

At least eight people were killed in the blast and as many as 100 were injured. Several cars parked on the street outside were set ablaze.

In Tuz Khurmatu in northern Iraq, a car bomb exploded killing five and wounding 13 others.

The attack happened near the council offices in the town, 88km (55 miles) south of Kirkuk, police said.


Reports say eight died and dozens were injured in Baghdad

In Samarra in central Iraq, two suicide bombers detonated car bombs outside the base in the centre of Samarra, 95km (60 miles) north of Baghdad.

A third attacker approached the base carrying explosives and was shot by soldiers, the US military said.

Iraqi police said two Iraqi men were killed and six wounded, including women and children. The US military said three soldiers sustained injuries that were not life threatening.

In Baghdad, Iraqi officials said Wael Rubaie, head of operations at the Ministry for National Security, and his driver were killed on their way to work.

Maj Gen Rubaie was appointed to command a special operations room recently set up to co-ordinate the fight against insurgents across all Iraqi ministries and with the US-led multi-national force.

Monday's violence came amid a recent surge across Iraq that is estimated to have killed more than 550 people in less than a month.

Baghdad sweep

But the US military officials said at least 285 suspected insurgents were detained in a joint American-Iraqi operation in western Baghdad.

Iraqi officials said police commando units backed by US forces cordoned off the road leading to Baghdad's international airport and the Abu Ghraib district, areas from which numerous insurgent attacks have been launched.

"This is the largest combined operation with Iraqi security forces to date," said US military spokesman Lt Col Clifford Kent.

"The Iraqi Security Forces have the lead in this operation while we perform shaping and supporting roles."

Seven Iraqi battalions backed by US forces launched the offensive late on Sunday. No specific troop numbers were given.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4573987.stm

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Old May 23rd, 2005, 05:44 PM   #2
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attack the americans.....whats the point in killing iraqis on purpose who are just going about there daily lifes????

What makes you so sure its "fanatics" who are attacking and killing iraqis. The US itself has a motive for the attacks as part of the battle for hearts and minds by making iraqi civilians fed up of militants so that their grassroots support for an insurgency is eroded.

Although anti-occupation militant groups have an advantage in attacking and klling iraqi "collaborators" as they do the police, they don't really have a motive in killing random civilians.

Its also interesting to note that when the first few beheadings were telivised, some of the hooded kidnappers had a body sillhouette identical to a typical US soldier, rather than a typical Iraqi with respect to height and body frame proportions.
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Old May 23rd, 2005, 05:55 PM   #3
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What makes you so sure its "fanatics" who are attacking and killing iraqis. The US itself has a motive for the attacks as part of the battle for hearts and minds by making iraqi civilians fed up of militants so that their grassroots support for an insurgency is eroded.

Although anti-occupation militant groups have an advantage in attacking and klling iraqi "collaborators" as they do the police, they don't really have a motive in killing random civilians.

Its also interesting to note that when the first few beheadings were telivised, some of the hooded kidnappers had a body sillhouette identical to a typical US soldier, rather than a typical Iraqi with respect to height and body frame proportions.
man i never looked at that in that way.
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Old May 23rd, 2005, 06:18 PM   #4
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What makes you so sure its "fanatics" who are attacking and killing iraqis. The US itself has a motive for the attacks as part of the battle for hearts and minds by making iraqi civilians fed up of militants so that their grassroots support for an insurgency is eroded.

Although anti-occupation militant groups have an advantage in attacking and klling iraqi "collaborators" as they do the police, they don't really have a motive in killing random civilians.

Its also interesting to note that when the first few beheadings were telivised, some of the hooded kidnappers had a body sillhouette identical to a typical US soldier, rather than a typical Iraqi with respect to height and body frame proportions.

fanatics dont think like rational people, hence why they are called fanatics. for them, only there narrow minded view of the world is the right way


saddam killed his own people....whats the rational behind that?

as for the body sillhouette theory....well, what can i say?
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Saddam never killed his own ppl... iraqiz were never "his" people... I'm not saying that saddam didn't kill iraqiz!!!... CIA was behind the killing and bombing at all times...

And now adayz.... Same thign is happenin.... Instead of Saddam they have Al-Qaeda now.... CIA wants a civil war in Iraq but so far they are unsuccessful.
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Saddam never killed his own ppl... iraqiz were never "his" people... I'm not saying that saddam didn't kill iraqiz!!!... CIA was behind the killing and bombing at all times...

And now adayz.... Same thign is happenin.... Instead of Saddam they have Al-Qaeda now.... CIA wants a civil war in Iraq but so far they are unsuccessful.
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the americans have the bombs, they started the war, theyre doing the bombing blaming militants, to hell with them
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i love conspiracy theories.
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whatever fuck america and fuck their world domination, they will fall as quick as they began, cant wait for the day
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every rise has a fall my friend, although i dont believe they will "fall" in the sense that they will dissolve completely as some idiots believe. it may have reduced power due to competition from arising powers such as china and india, but it will still continue to be a strong power in economics, politics and culture.
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every rise has a fall my friend, although i dont believe they will "fall" in the sense that they will dissolve completely as some idiots believe. it may have reduced power due to competition from arising powers such as china and india, but it will still continue to be a strong power in economics, politics and culture.
not when Jesus comes, they will fall then with the antichrist
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not when Jesus comes, they will fall then with the antichrist
oh yeah, of course...i was just talking about the short-term geopolitical scene. But yeah, Hazrat Isa(as) and Imam Mahdi(as) and the good followers will indeed end all injustice in the world which is why i dont get frustrated with all the power and money these people have since we know the end right? We have the script to this fairytale...and we know it will end in our favour. Inshallah
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ok enough, im spoiling cunard's thread. sorry cunard.
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oh yeah, of course...i was just talking about the short-term geopolitical scene. But yeah, Hazrat Isa(as) and Imam Mahdi(as) and the good followers will indeed end all injustice in the world which is why i dont get frustrated with all the power and money these people have since we know the end right? We have the script to this fairytale...and we know it will end in our favour. Inshallah
yeah and victory will be ours Inshallah, then we will see what America can do when Jesus comes
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oh yeah, of course...i was just talking about the short-term geopolitical scene. But yeah, Hazrat Isa(as) and Imam Mahdi(as) and the good followers will indeed end all injustice in the world which is why i dont get frustrated with all the power and money these people have since we know the end right? We have the script to this fairytale...and we know it will end in our favour. Inshallah
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you will need flame guard for where you will be going
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yeah and victory will be ours Inshallah, then we will see what America can do when Jesus comes
Actually, Vishnu is going to incarnate into a Superhuman and destroy the evil scum of the world that have persecuted his followers, which in this case would be Britishers and Muslims.

Why? Cuz I said so, and it is written in a religious text. So ofcourse its true.

The end is near my Muslim friend. Its Mahdi vs Vishnu, and Vishnu is going to win.

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