Dude jailed for honour killing..about time!

[jus_me]

'Honour killing' relatives guilty

Banaz Mahmod's body was found in a buried suitcase

A father has been found guilty of killing his daughter in what police described as an honour killing.
The body of Banaz Mahmod, 20, was found in a suitcase buried in a garden in Birmingham last year.

Her father Mahmod Mahmod, 52, and uncle Ari Mahmod, 50, from Mitcham, south London, were both convicted of murder at the Old Bailey.

A third defendant, Darbad Mares-Rasull, was cleared of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice.

Ari Mahmod was also found guilty of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice.

Mohamad Hama, 30, of West Norwood, south London, an associate of Ari, has pleaded guilty to the murder.


Banaz's boyfriend was threatened by her family
Police statement

Miss Mahmod was killed after falling in love with a man her family did not want her to marry.

Her father and uncle ordered the murder because they believed she had shamed the family, the three-month trial heard.

Banaz had made several attempts to warn police that her life was in danger, even naming those she thought would kill her.

In footage recorded following an earlier attempt on her life by her father in December 2005, she said she was "really scared".

However her statement following the assault was allegdley not taken seriously by investigating officers.

Several officers are being investigated as part of an internal review of the case by Scotland Yard's Directorate of Professional Standards.

Banaz fled but later went back to her family and tried to carry on her relationship with boyfriend Rahmat Sulemani in secret.

When they were discovered by the family, Mr Sulemani was threatened by Ari Mahmod's associates.

Banaz was urged to stay at a safe house but told officers she believed she would be safe at home because her mother was there.

She disappeared on 24 January. Her decomposed body was discovered in Handsworth, Birmingham, three months later.

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Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/h...on/6722699.stm

i really dont understand honour killings, what is so honourable about being a murderer? surely these people must be able to understand that in this day and age you have nobody to impress, there is no need to be as tight as you were when you first came here as the country has diversified, the guy the girl was with was still a muslim and even that wasnt good enough.

people say that we are getting too white and western, if this is the result of staying traditional then i think getting too western is a good thing.

seriously, how can you kill your own child? im no poster child for arranged marriages but my parents didnt cut me up and put me in a suitcase

one more think, remember a while back there was a girl who was murdered by her family in southall? the family owned a shop called rana brothers, it was all over itv as the beeb dont seem to care about brownies, anywho, people started targetting the shop so they changed the name..cowards.

and @that dude being killed in southall for a business problem, my mum went to southall that day and was complaining about the traffic due to two roads being closed down.

how can you just murder someone like that?

people are deranged.

[dawg!!]

its part of their society and it'll take a looong time for them to change their views

[vishaalsood]

that is some sections of islam for you, they value family "honour" above everything, damn wimps

[FatGeezer]

Originally Posted by vishaalsood

that is some sections of islam for you, they value family "honour" above everything, damn wimps

will you shut the fcuk up about islam. This has absolutely nothing to do with islam but more to do with indian subcontinent culture. I'm really getting sick of dimwits like you trying to slander Islam at every inch of an opportunity you think you can twist. In islam EVERYONE is equal, kings and paupers, thats why on Haj EVERYONE wears teh same clothes. There are no castes or divisions in Islam, the fundamental of Islam is UNITY.

grow up and get a life you e-hero.

I guess these two reports were of "closet" muslims huh?

http://www.boston.com/news/world/art...ng_police_say/

http://www.hindu.com/2004/01/13/stor...1305091200.htm

[vishaalsood]

Originally Posted by FatGeezer

will you shut the fcuk up about islam. This has absolutely nothing to do with islam but more to do with indian subcontinent culture. I'm really getting sick of dimwits like you trying to slander Islam at every inch of an opportunity you think you can twist. In islam EVERYONE is equal, kings and paupers, thats why on Haj EVERYONE wears teh same clothes. There are no castes or divisions in Islam, the fundamental of Islam is UNITY.

grow up and get a life you e-hero.

I guess these two reports were of "closet" muslims huh?

http://www.boston.com/news/world/art...ng_police_say/

http://www.hindu.com/2004/01/13/stor...1305091200.htm

settle down little one

you dont read abotu any other culture other than islamic extremists commiting honour killings. Some very traditional islamics believe in it so its their problem

[jus_me]

i thought honour was more to do with a society thing, not religion.

sikh girls have been honour killed too

plus, this girl was kurdish..i didnt think they did honour killings.

still, its sad that even in this day and age people think it is ok to murder their own kids.

[dawg!!]

Originally Posted by FatGeezer

will you shut the fcuk up about islam. This has absolutely nothing to do with islam but more to do with indian subcontinent culture. I'm really getting sick of dimwits like you trying to slander Islam at every inch of an opportunity you think you can twist. In islam EVERYONE is equal, kings and paupers, thats why on Haj EVERYONE wears teh same clothes. There are no castes or divisions in Islam, the fundamental of Islam is UNITY.

grow up and get a life you e-hero.

I guess these two reports were of "closet" muslims huh?

http://www.boston.com/news/world/art...ng_police_say/

http://www.hindu.com/2004/01/13/stor...1305091200.htm

[Paki and Proud]

Originally Posted by FatGeezer

will you shut the fcuk up about islam. This has absolutely nothing to do with islam but more to do with indian subcontinent culture. I'm really getting sick of dimwits like you trying to slander Islam at every inch of an opportunity you think you can twist. In islam EVERYONE is equal, kings and paupers, thats why on Haj EVERYONE wears teh same clothes. There are no castes or divisions in Islam, the fundamental of Islam is UNITY.

grow up and get a life you e-hero.

I guess these two reports were of "closet" muslims huh?

http://www.boston.com/news/world/art...ng_police_say/

http://www.hindu.com/2004/01/13/stor...1305091200.htm

the khussra wears a SKIRT

[FatGeezer]

Originally Posted by vishaalsood

settle down little one

you dont read abotu any other culture other than islamic extremists commiting honour killings. Some very traditional islamics believe in it so its their problem

"traditional" What the fcuk are you talking about?

Have you just not read the links I posted above? For fooks sake theres hundreds if not thousands of honour killings in india every year. Do you live in a closet or something?

[vishaalsood]

Originally Posted by Paki and Proud

the khussra wears a SKIRT

you have old chat, you need to get some new banter, stupid fool

[jus_me]

Originally Posted by vishaalsood

settle down little one

you dont read abotu any other culture other than islamic extremists commiting honour killings. Some very traditional islamics believe in it so its their problem

islam isnt a culture, tis a religion.

and you do hear about other religions killing their kids, as i mentioned above/below your post.

its just more "known" in the media about muslims because they are being witchunted at the moment.

a lot of people have been honour killed and the story never goes to the news because nobody reports it to the police, like the guy in this case said, had he not reported her missing, nobody would know where she went.

[FatGeezer]

Originally Posted by jus_me

i thought honour was more to do with a society thing, not religion.

sikh girls have been honour killed too

plus, this girl was kurdish..i didnt think they did honour killings.

still, its sad that even in this day and age people think it is ok to murder their own kids.

no its got nothing to do with religion, its culture. but at least your thread highlighted what a racist twat vishalsood his. Thanks for bringing this imbecile to my attention. Im gonna have some fun with him.

[vishaalsood]

Originally Posted by jus_me

islam isnt a culture, tis a religion.

and you do hear about other religions killing their kids, as i mentioned above/below your post.

its just more "known" in the media about muslims because they are being witchunted at the moment.

a lot of people have been honour killed and the story never goes to the news because nobody reports it to the police, like the guy in this case said, had he not reported her missing, nobody would know where she went.

im sorry, islam is not being mitch-hunted, they THINK they are being witch-hunted. Most muslims are honest decent people but some of them are total scum, and do not deserve life. they hide behind their religion to plot terror attacks and kill innocent lives which is wrong. they cannot call themselves muslim as yur god would send them to hell as its a sin

[vishaalsood]

Originally Posted by FatGeezer

no its got nothing to do with religion, its culture. but at least your thread highlighted what a racist twat vishalsood his. Thanks for bringing this imbecile to my attention. Im gonna have some fun with him.

i am not a racist, i am an equalist. i suffer the same prejudices are you do mate

[Paki and Proud]

Originally Posted by vishaalsood

you have old chat, you need to get some new banter, stupid fool

OOOOO

shut it skirt boy

na na nan naann nana

[jus_me]

Originally Posted by vishaalsood

im sorry, islam is not being mitch-hunted, they THINK they are being witch-hunted. Most muslims are honest decent people but some of them are total scum, and do not deserve life. they hide behind their religion to plot terror attacks and kill innocent lives which is wrong. they cannot call themselves muslim as yur god would send them to hell as its a sin

lol, wow.

the media cannot see the difference between muslims and the "muslims" who kill for their religion, thus the media sees them as being one and the same.

you get wankers in either religion and do you watch the news? whenever it is something to do with a "muslim" terrorist, it is on the front page, e.g when they found the gear in that lockup in boston manor road, yet when the same happened with two white dudes, it was tucked away on page 5.

do you know what a witch hunt is?

[vishaalsood]

Originally Posted by Paki and Proud

OOOOO

shut it skirt boy

na na nan naann nana

narrow mindedness gets you nowhere in life

stop hiding behind your computer. you should say things like that to peoples faces

[FatGeezer]

Originally Posted by vishaalsood

i am not a racist, i am an equalist. i suffer the same prejudices are you do mate

if that really was the case you would use the two peas that live in that vacuum in your khopri that god gave you as a poor excuse for a brain to think with before you started slandering muslims. Oh wait, now your gonna cry "I'm a victim too like you..". How lame. I suggest you shutup and accept you made an idiotic comment and accept it and learn from it rather than digging yourself a deeper grave.

[jus_me]

Originally Posted by FatGeezer

no its got nothing to do with religion, its culture. but at least your thread highlighted what a racist twat vishalsood his. Thanks for bringing this imbecile to my attention. Im gonna have some fun with him.

exactly the point i was making, its only because of the lopsided media coverage that people think it is a purel muslim problem when it is a problem for all religions from the sub continent.

[vishaalsood]

Originally Posted by jus_me

lol, wow.

the media cannot see the difference between muslims and the "muslims" who kill for their religion, thus the media sees them as being one and the same.

you get wankers in either religion and do you watch the news? whenever it is something to do with a "muslim" terrorist, it is on the front page, e.g when they found the gear in that lockup in boston manor road, yet when the same happened with two white dudes, it was tucked away on page 5.

do you know what a witch hunt is?

that is called being parnoid. which was the worst offence?i live in scotland so i dont know the chat in the USA.

I know some muslims are treated badly but really, do you blame them? after bin laden took responsibility for 9/11 and said Allah hailed these attacks, and Saddam persecuting his own people under strict islamic law, such as the taliban in iraq, why not look at islam more closely?

[RacingSoul]

Originally Posted by FatGeezer

will you shut the fcuk up about islam. This has absolutely nothing to do with islam but more to do with indian subcontinent culture. I'm really getting sick of dimwits like you trying to slander Islam at every inch of an opportunity you think you can twist. In islam EVERYONE is equal, kings and paupers, thats why on Haj EVERYONE wears teh same clothes. There are no castes or divisions in Islam, the fundamental of Islam is UNITY.

grow up and get a life you e-hero.

I guess these two reports were of "closet" muslims huh?

http://www.boston.com/news/world/art...ng_police_say/

http://www.hindu.com/2004/01/13/stor...1305091200.htm

no one except a muslim is allowed on the Haj grounds...so mayb to muslims, that's "unity" but in the civilized world, ppl call it discrimination.

[FatGeezer]

Originally Posted by vishaalsood

im sorry, islam is not being mitch-hunted, they THINK they are being witch-hunted. Most muslims are honest decent people but some of them are total scum, and do not deserve life. they hide behind their religion to plot terror attacks and kill innocent lives which is wrong. they cannot call themselves muslim as yur god would send them to hell as its a sin

i didnt say muslims were being witch-hunted. I just said dimwits like you dont know what youre talking about and should shut up and go e-flirt with some pre-pubescent teens instead.

[Paki and Proud]

Originally Posted by vishaalsood

narrow mindedness gets you nowhere in life

stop hiding behind your computer. you should say things like that to peoples faces

haha i could pick you apart in this thread with your narrow minded comments, but i'll let the others finish.

and lol at you pretending not to be offended but are cyring behind ur screen

skirt boy... na na na nana na ana na

[vishaalsood]

Originally Posted by FatGeezer

if that really was the case you would use the two peas that live in that vacuum in your khopri that god gave you as a poor excuse for a brain to think with before you started slandering muslims. Oh wait, now your gonna cry "I'm a victim too like you..". How lame. I suggest you shutup and accept you made an idiotic comment and accept it and learn from it rather than digging yourself a deeper grave.

it wasnt a stuid comment at all. others in here want to discuss it, not argue like a pig-headed idiot like you

[FatGeezer]

Originally Posted by RacingSoul

no one except a muslim is allowed on the Haj grounds...so mayb to muslims, that's "unity" but in the civilized world, ppl call it discrimination.

thast a seperate debate altogether regarding the security of the place. Besides, my commenst were in reference to muslims, thats all muslims are equal brothers and sisters and hence there is no such thing as "honour" in the sense that is used as an excuse in these so called "honour" killings.