religion or way of life? (side-thread from the ilyas muslim thread)

**Lord_Dirty** · April 13th, 2007, 05:58 PM

i was reading the ilyas thread about why do people hate/dislike muslims and i noticed the arguement about whether sikhism is a religion or way of life. well this is my take on it.

the fundamental principles of Sikhism are universal. there are those who follow the absolute rules of the religion (5Ks, etc.), and there are those who follow the principles of religion in their daily lives. there are those who follow the 5Ks, but are not truly good Sikhs - they follow the superficial tenets of Sikhism, but not the true principles of the religion. just because someone does not outwardly display the signs and symbols of Sikhism does not preclude them from calling themselves Sikh or from living their lives based on the fundamental principles of Sikhism. our religion was founded upon the idea of equality and the idea of one, all-pervasive God. we're also supposed to reject idolatry and live a good, clean, simply, healthy life. we're not all supposed to be perfect people. we are, however, supposed to live our lives. you can't fault a person for making mistakes in life, learning from them, and moving on to become a better person later in life. Sikhism allows for that - it's an inclusive religion, not an exclusive religion, which is part of what makes it a great religion.

***ApNi_KuRi*** · April 13th, 2007, 06:08 PM

That's what I love about Sikhi.

It's a religion yet it's also a way of life.

We are all at different stages of Sikhi but we can still call ourselves Sikh. We don't need to go through baptizes to call ourself Sikhs.

Yes, you can take amrit and become a true devotee to Khalsa, and become an amritdari, but atleast we can do this at any point of our lives. Once we're ready and willing, we can.

Yeah there are bad sikhs out there but atleast we're given second chances.

m0narch · April 13th, 2007, 06:10 PM

you? a serious post?

wtf?

Spiky · April 13th, 2007, 06:10 PM

Your religion has no personality dude. Get a hot spokesperson and we shall talk.

Seriously??? · April 13th, 2007, 06:12 PM

one of the reasons why sikhism was found was because of the unjust cast system in hinduism...yet here we are, dividing sikhism into classes/sects/casts again..e.g. jatts, bhape, ramgariah etc...
those babey u see at the gurudwara are no better than some selfish brahmins in hinduism.

Seriously???

kohli_sahib · April 13th, 2007, 06:12 PM

agreed completely and utterly.

awesome post.

~CupCake~ · April 13th, 2007, 06:14 PM

its locked..

ur will be too

April 13th, 2007, 05:58 PM	#1
Lord_Dirty Should I Consider Retiring??? Join Date: Jun 17 2004 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 15,045 Reputation: 66960796 --> Rep Power: 6696160 Casino cash: $8340	religion or way of life? (side-thread from the ilyas muslim thread) i was reading the ilyas thread about why do people hate/dislike muslims and i noticed the arguement about whether sikhism is a religion or way of life. well this is my take on it. the fundamental principles of Sikhism are universal. there are those who follow the absolute rules of the religion (5Ks, etc.), and there are those who follow the principles of religion in their daily lives. there are those who follow the 5Ks, but are not truly good Sikhs - they follow the superficial tenets of Sikhism, but not the true principles of the religion. just because someone does not outwardly display the signs and symbols of Sikhism does not preclude them from calling themselves Sikh or from living their lives based on the fundamental principles of Sikhism. our religion was founded upon the idea of equality and the idea of one, all-pervasive God. we're also supposed to reject idolatry and live a good, clean, simply, healthy life. we're not all supposed to be perfect people. we are, however, supposed to live our lives. you can't fault a person for making mistakes in life, learning from them, and moving on to become a better person later in life. Sikhism allows for that - it's an inclusive religion, not an exclusive religion, which is part of what makes it a great religion. __________________ www.jay-d.com \| www.amuadventures.com \| they call me the haathee because my trunk is in front

April 13th, 2007, 06:10 PM	#3
m0narch Can't Stay Away Join Date: Jun 12 2006 Posts: 1,802 Reputation: 105929576 --> Rep Power: 10592978 Casino cash: $3077	you? a serious post? wtf?

April 13th, 2007, 06:10 PM	#4
Spiky Should I Consider Retiring??? Join Date: May 12 2006 Posts: 15,472 Reputation: 80071 --> Rep Power: 8082 Casino cash: $1211	Your religion has no personality dude. Get a hot spokesperson and we shall talk.

April 13th, 2007, 06:12 PM	#5
Seriously??? Banned Join Date: Apr 11 2007 Posts: 300 Reputation: 10 --> Rep Power: 0 Casino cash: $1000	one of the reasons why sikhism was found was because of the unjust cast system in hinduism...yet here we are, dividing sikhism into classes/sects/casts again..e.g. jatts, bhape, ramgariah etc... those babey u see at the gurudwara are no better than some selfish brahmins in hinduism. Seriously???

April 13th, 2007, 06:12 PM	#6
kohli_sahib Should I Consider Retiring??? Join Date: Apr 17 2006 Location: Jihadistan Posts: 7,832 Reputation: 10 --> Rep Power: 0 Casino cash: $1000	agreed completely and utterly. awesome post.

April 13th, 2007, 06:14 PM	#7
~CupCake~ Banned Join Date: Nov 20 2006 Posts: 9,468 Reputation: 10 --> Rep Power: 0 Casino cash: $1100	its locked.. ur will be too

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