***Four-year-old was drowned while being anally raped***

CremeDeLaCreme · May 19th, 2006, 02:16 PM

Raping children part of 'men's business'
Simon Kearney and Ashleigh Wilson
May 16, 2006
ABORIGINAL culture was to blame for endemic levels of sexual violence against children in central Australia, according to a Northern Territory prosecutor who cited a case in which a four-year-old was drowned while being anally raped.

Alice Springs prosecutor Nanette Rogers said "men's business" in remote Aboriginal communities often led to males freely breaking the law and committing appalling crimes.

"Men's business is a predominant aspect of life in remote communities, and young men who are initiated are given a certain status in the community and feel they are not responsible for their actions," Ms Rogers told ABC television's Lateline last night.

"In other words, they can do whatever they like.

"Young women are not accorded the same status. Males are given a higher status."

Ms Rogers detailed a range of "dreadful" cases she had prosecuted, which included a seven-month-old baby and a two-year-old toddler being raped and a four-year-old girl being drowned while being raped.

"While she was playing in the water he pulled her under and anally penetrated her and drowned her probably simultaneously," she said.

Other children witnessed the murder. "Their evidence was that they saw him holding her in the water, they saw bubbles coming up, they tried to throw rocks at him in an effort to get him to desist and then they ran back to the community to alert the grandparents," Ms Rogers said.

"It was awful, absolutely dreadful. Cases like this are really beyond the range of normal comprehension.""In normal behaviour we expect to be say murdered or sexually assaulted or maybe stabbed but not on a constant basis not in relation to horrible offences committed on really small children."

She said Aboriginal communities were suffering from tragedy fatigue, allowing horrific crimes to appear unremarkable.

"The child grows up seeing violence all around him or her and having violence done to him or her and then becomes an adult and then they become violent themselves," she said.

When a report was made to police, it was often not followed up because of intimidation of witnesses or physical violence.

"Aboriginal society here tends to be very punitive so if a witness goes into court and tells a story, they're liable to get physically punished by the offender's family," she said. "It's a punitive culture at every turn."

She said the lack of supervision of children in remote communities by parents who were often drunk was a key problem. In several cases, she said, the offenders had simply whisked the children away.

Indigenous Affairs Minister Mal Brough said the fact that only eight out of 40 indigenous communities in central Australia with populations above 2500 had a police presence was not in line with community standards.

Jane Lloyd, the manager of the domestic violence unit at the Ngaanyatjarra Pitjantjatjara Yankunytjatjara Women's Council, said more police were needed to restore law and order in remote communities, and especially the outstations.

"There is a history and tradition of violence, especially in Western Desert cultures. It's become more extreme," Ms Lloyd said.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...4-2702,00.html

*kIT KAT* · May 19th, 2006, 02:18 PM

oye bhenchod.

hindu_heat · May 19th, 2006, 02:19 PM

wow whats with you and the continuous sadistic threads, Fox News.

Princess_Ligi · May 19th, 2006, 02:20 PM

that.is.so.HORRIBLE!

**chunky** · May 19th, 2006, 02:21 PM

that is beyond fucked up.

can someone pronounce this please. "Ngaanyatjarra Pitjantjatjara Yankunytjatjara"

Dutty Dutty LuV · May 19th, 2006, 02:22 PM

CremeDeLaCreme · May 19th, 2006, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hindu_heat

wow whats with you and the continuous sadistic threads, Fox News.

What do you find so amusing about this article?

**musicchic33** · May 19th, 2006, 05:16 PM

Hah, I didn't even have to click on the thread..just by reading the title, I knew it was your thread

CremeDeLaCreme · May 20th, 2006, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by musicchic33

Hah, I didn't even have to click on the thread..just by reading the title, I knew it was your thread

southystyle · May 20th, 2006, 07:55 AM

isn't this just another example of "shit happening" to you..?

CrimsonRegret · May 20th, 2006, 08:02 AM

the fark

...

HERCS · May 20th, 2006, 08:08 AM

i pity those kids who were brought up within that culture...

Night Fox · May 20th, 2006, 08:11 AM

**dopekhor** · May 20th, 2006, 08:11 AM

thats just super sick!

SharpenedMango · May 20th, 2006, 08:30 AM

If you believed they put a man on the moon,
If you believe there's nothing up my sleeve,
then nothing is cool

May 19th, 2006, 02:16 PM	#1
CremeDeLaCreme Banned Join Date: Feb 14 2005 Posts: 3,261 Reputation: 10 --> Rep Power: 0 Casino cash: $2755	*Four-year-old was drowned while being anally raped* Raping children part of 'men's business' Simon Kearney and Ashleigh Wilson May 16, 2006 ABORIGINAL culture was to blame for endemic levels of sexual violence against children in central Australia, according to a Northern Territory prosecutor who cited a case in which a four-year-old was drowned while being anally raped. Alice Springs prosecutor Nanette Rogers said "men's business" in remote Aboriginal communities often led to males freely breaking the law and committing appalling crimes. "Men's business is a predominant aspect of life in remote communities, and young men who are initiated are given a certain status in the community and feel they are not responsible for their actions," Ms Rogers told ABC television's Lateline last night. "In other words, they can do whatever they like. "Young women are not accorded the same status. Males are given a higher status." Ms Rogers detailed a range of "dreadful" cases she had prosecuted, which included a seven-month-old baby and a two-year-old toddler being raped and a four-year-old girl being drowned while being raped. "While she was playing in the water he pulled her under and anally penetrated her and drowned her probably simultaneously," she said. Other children witnessed the murder. "Their evidence was that they saw him holding her in the water, they saw bubbles coming up, they tried to throw rocks at him in an effort to get him to desist and then they ran back to the community to alert the grandparents," Ms Rogers said. "It was awful, absolutely dreadful. Cases like this are really beyond the range of normal comprehension.""In normal behaviour we expect to be say murdered or sexually assaulted or maybe stabbed but not on a constant basis not in relation to horrible offences committed on really small children." She said Aboriginal communities were suffering from tragedy fatigue, allowing horrific crimes to appear unremarkable. "The child grows up seeing violence all around him or her and having violence done to him or her and then becomes an adult and then they become violent themselves," she said. When a report was made to police, it was often not followed up because of intimidation of witnesses or physical violence. "Aboriginal society here tends to be very punitive so if a witness goes into court and tells a story, they're liable to get physically punished by the offender's family," she said. "It's a punitive culture at every turn." She said the lack of supervision of children in remote communities by parents who were often drunk was a key problem. In several cases, she said, the offenders had simply whisked the children away. Indigenous Affairs Minister Mal Brough said the fact that only eight out of 40 indigenous communities in central Australia with populations above 2500 had a police presence was not in line with community standards. Jane Lloyd, the manager of the domestic violence unit at the Ngaanyatjarra Pitjantjatjara Yankunytjatjara Women's Council, said more police were needed to restore law and order in remote communities, and especially the outstations. "There is a history and tradition of violence, especially in Western Desert cultures. It's become more extreme," Ms Lloyd said. http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...4-2702,00.html

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