If desi muslims can have persian names then why not.....

[bad_cheque]

desi names?

This thought occurred to me while reading the thread about John Abraham's Parsi name being Farhan. Farhan is just a persian name with no specific religious connotation.

So why not desi names without any religious connotations? Many Malu Christians do that with names like Santhosh, Deepa etc....

[bad_cheque]

bump!

[pakis_princess]

Wait so is john muslim??? i thought he was like christian

[PuNjabi_RaNi*]

Originally Posted by pakis_princess

Wait so is john muslim??? i thought he was like christian

He says he is a christian, i heard him sayin in some interview. He is half muslim i think

[bad_cheque]

Originally Posted by pakis_princess

Wait so is john muslim??? i thought he was like christian

His father is a Christian and mother a Zorastrian and his girlfriend a Hindu.

[desailly]

With his surname, I thought he was jewish.

[bad_cheque]

Originally Posted by desailly

With his surname, I thought he was jewish.

Abraham becomes a surname quite regularly by malu christian naming tradition.

[adren@line]

because....


1. they dont want to be associated with Hindus

2. one of their ancestors was turned to/forced into Islam by some Arab , Turk, or Iranic, so they adopted the names of their "slavemasters".

Plus most Muslims, whether they are black or chinese, take on an Arab or Persian name.

[E.I.Walrus]

Originally Posted by pakis_princess

Wait so is john muslim??? i thought he was like christian

Mom's Zoroastrian, Dad's catholic.

[Sweet_LiL_Hunnie]

shazia is a pakistani name not an islamic one so ive been told

[AFGHAN_ZMARAI]

Originally Posted by bad_cheque

desi names?

This thought occurred to me while reading the thread about John Abraham's Parsi name being Farhan. Farhan is just a persian name with no specific religious connotation.

So why not desi names without any religious connotations? Many Malu Christians do that with names like Santhosh, Deepa etc....

Well im not desi but my real name has no religious connotation

my adopted name does though

[lili420]

Originally Posted by adren@line

because....


1. they dont want to be associated with Hindus

2. one of their ancestors was turned to/forced into Islam by some Arab , Turk, or Iranic, so they adopted the names of their "slavemasters".

Plus most Muslims, whether they are black or chinese, take on an Arab or Persian name.

Please stop talking out of your ass, in Islam you can have any name as long as it means something and the meaning of the name is not anything negative. Yea, there is more of a trend of arab or persian names in Muslims, but that is due to people naming their children certain names because of people in history. and yes there are people with hindi names, not hindu religious naems but words that mean something only in hindi.

[desailly]

Originally Posted by lili420

Please stop talking out of your ass, in Islam you can have any name as long as it means something and the meaning of the name is not anything negative. Yea, there is more of a trend of arab or persian names in Muslims, but that is due to people naming their children certain names because of people in history. and yes there are people with hindi names, not hindu religious naems but words that mean something only in hindi.

Even arabic is not islamic.

Before Islam arabs were mostly christian and some jewish.

[shady punjabi]

Cause Persians=Muslims.

[adren@line]

Originally Posted by lili420

Please stop talking out of your ass, in Islam you can have any name as long as it means something and the meaning of the name is not anything negative. Yea, there is more of a trend of arab or persian names in Muslims, but that is due to people naming their children certain names because of people in history. and yes there are people with hindi names, not hindu religious naems but words that mean something only in hindi.

I am not talking out of my ass.

Most South Asian Muslims DO NOT have Hindu/Indian names.

Most Muslims in general, have "Muslim" names.
Like you said, its the general trend.

[bad_cheque]

Obviously there is a cultural element in Islam.

[Indian_Eyess]

Originally Posted by Sweet_LiL_Hunnie

shazia is a pakistani name not an islamic one so ive been told

Pakistani is not an ethncity, its a nationality

[nabilah18]

Originally Posted by adren@line

I am not talking out of my ass.

Most South Asian Muslims DO NOT have Hindu/Indian names.

Most Muslims in general, have "Muslim" names.
Like you said, its the general trend.

The naming of a child is one of the most fundamental Hindu "samskars" or scripture based rites.

The name is selected such that its meaning can inspire the child to follow the path of righteousness. The name given to newborn babies are generally suggestive of divine qualities of the vedic deities.

A common practice among Hindus is to name their children after the names of sages, saints, holy persons, deities, and the names of the incarnation of God. It is believed that by repeatedly calling such names one is reminded of the Lord



That is why Muslims do not have Hindu names...but any other name other than the ones in red are allowed..

[lili420]

Originally Posted by adren@line

I am not talking out of my ass.

Most South Asian Muslims DO NOT have Hindu/Indian names.

Most Muslims in general, have "Muslim" names.
Like you said, its the general trend.

so, nothing wrong with it, like someone mentioned, arabic names are not nessasarily Islamic, only names that specifically were the names of important people in Islamic history are really Islamic, or the names of Allah. So if its just a trend, by coninidence, whats wrong with that. Thats like wondering why a desi christian is named John. same reason its not cuz hes not desi, its cuz he was named after a religious figure.

[Indian_Eyess]

Originally Posted by bad_cheque

Obviously there is a cultural element in Islam.

Most of the Muslim culture in India has been influenced by Persians and Turks, even the language itself borrows many words and phrases from Persians, many Sufis who roamed India were also Persian in decent. Persian names are different from Arab names, Islam was founded away from Persia, if Islam was based on a singular cultural element, then Persian names would be of no use either. There are Muslims who do have "Indian" names and Hindus who have Persian names. I've met a few Hindus whose names are Shah (a Persian title) and I've met several Gujurati Muslims whose last names are Patel or Choudary.

[Muslima786]

Originally Posted by adren@line

I am not talking out of my ass.

Most South Asian Muslims DO NOT have Hindu/Indian names.

Most Muslims in general, have "Muslim" names.
Like you said, its the general trend.

a lot of bengalis/persians have names that have their roots embedded in hinduism...anyways ur right tho for some part the practice of naming in Islam is derived from the Sunnah.Names are usually given to show servitude to Allah swt...ie names indicating servitude to others are forbidden, names that are generally given to kafirs (unbelievers) and enemies of Islam are forbidden since we as Muslims are adviced not to imitate other nations and people. so its not really a cultural element, the practice of naming is ingrained in religion. and since the Quran and Sunnah are related to us in Arabic it is best we derive our names from that particular language as to avoid what I previously stated.

[nabilah18]

Muslim Baby Names
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Giving your child a meaningful Islamic name
It's always a joy when Allah blesses you with a child. Children bring happiness and joy, but also trials and great responsibilities. One of the very first duties you have toward your new child, besides physical care and love, is to give your child a name that carries honor and Islamic meaning behind it.

It is reported that the Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "On the Day of Resurrection, you will be called by your names and by your fathers' names, so give yourselves good names." (Hadith Abu Dawud)

Remember, just because a name stems from a certain language or culture, doesn't mean that it has a good Islamic meaning. Several of the companions of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) changed their own Arabic names, because the meanings of their names connoted wickedness.


For example, someone named Harb ("war") had his name changed to Silm ("peace"), and one named Al-Munba'ith ("one who lies") became Al-Mudtaji' ("one who stands up," i.e. for the truth).


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and a popular arabic name is

Hind (India - common Arab name)

it was the name of Abu Sufyan's wife.

[x baby bably x]

i have a persian name

[Muslima786]

my name is supposedly not Muslim

[x baby bably x]

why aren`t you orange anymore?