I wanna make a point about the bombings....

[soulflyer]

I think it's high time the muslims who condemn these attacks and who truely believe that these are wrong do something about it then just keep telling everyone it's wrong...

These are people from your community going around fucking up other people's lives...these are people who are representing and tainting your religion...Don't you think it's time to turn around and find out who the fuck is doing it?!

To date all I have heard are muslim leaders coming on TV saying how bad it is and not to blame all muslims for it. I think it is high time they stood side by side with the world leaders and say "you know what, whatever troubles we have are not important right now - lets find these assholes putting our religion down and then sort everything else out".

[djskee]

All I Can Say Is Word

[ridah84]

Why do pakistani guys do that? They suck ass

[Skittlexx]

I agree... The fact that the bombers this time are British muslims makes it worse... We could be going to school/college/uni/work with these people. Yes they know its wrong, but the education they're growing up with away from this is more overpowering. x

[soulflyer]

Pakistani, Afghani and many other Islamic leaders have come to the forefront and sai d"we condemn these attacks, they are not the practicings of Islam." That is TOTALLY CORRECT! And the fact theat people in your community, using your religion as a blanket are commiting such sins...i think it is high time your turned around and put them out into the limelight.

[mr photographer]

I think it's high time the muslims who condemn these attacks and who truely believe that these are wrong do something about it then just keep telling everyone it's wrong...

These are people from your community going around fucking up other people's lives...these are people who are representing and tainting your religion...Don't you think it's time to turn around and find out who the fuck is doing it?!

To date all I have heard are muslim leaders coming on TV saying how bad it is and not to blame all muslims for it. I think it is high time they stood side by side with the world leaders and say "you know what, whatever troubles we have are not important right now - lets find these assholes putting our religion down and then sort everything else out".

whoa buddy ... chill ... it's a small minority don't blame the rest ... did anyone ever say to you ... that it was people from your community that went around killing innocent muslims in india and knocking down mosques because they believed in it for a cause.

was the whole catholic community blamed when the IRA used to set off bombs in London and Ireland .. i dont think so

[cocojambo]

I think it's high time the muslims who condemn these attacks and who truely believe that these are wrong do something about it then just keep telling everyone it's wrong...

These are people from your community going around fucking up other people's lives...these are people who are representing and tainting your religion...Don't you think it's time to turn around and find out who the fuck is doing it?!

To date all I have heard are muslim leaders coming on TV saying how bad it is and not to blame all muslims for it. I think it is high time they stood side by side with the world leaders and say "you know what, whatever troubles we have are not important right now - lets find these assholes putting our religion down and then sort everything else out".

if hi-tech US can't find these people, how the hell do you expect muslims to find them?

and ofcourse a terrorist who bombs around alot would not be easily found in communities and mosques... coz if he does, then people would report him (remember millions of dollars are at reward for capture of Osama)

so yeah you can't say muslims go find these terrorists in your kommunities... coz they ain't there either... na'aam saying?

[shreefjatt]

Well mate i totally agree
first step towards this should be banning all the terrorist outfits in muslim country
like in pkaistan there are many terrorists training camps
pakistan govt should take care of this
and put all of them in jail

[soulflyer]

whoa buddy ... chill ... it's a small minority don't blame the rest ... did anyone ever say to you ... that it was people from your community that went around killing innocent muslims in india and knocking down mosques because they believed in it for a cause.

was the whole catholic community blamed when the IRA used to set off bombs in London and Ireland .. i dont think so
#


You have me mistaken Sohail...I am not blaming anyone - what I am saying is that isn't it time the Muslim community became a little more active in bringing these losers to justice? These people live in your community...In the same way the indians that attacked the muslims in Mumbai and Ayodhya were part of the Hindu community so yes, i believe that if anything they should help.

The Catholics whouild play a crucial role on bringing in any suspect terrorists - at the end of the day, i flat out refuse to believe that Islam, Hinduism, Christianity or any other religion believes in killing people in such a manner. It is wrong and seriously fucked up.

[soulflyer]

if hi-tech US can't find these people, how the hell do you expect muslims to find them?

and ofcourse a terrorist who bombs around alot would not be easily found in communities and mosques... coz if he does, then people would report him (remember millions of dollars are at reward for capture of Osama)

so yeah you can't say muslims go find these terrorists in your kommunities... coz they ain't there either... na'aam saying?



I dont believe that...these previous bombers all attended the same mosques as other muslims, they didnt go to any special "suicide bomber mosque" or anything. These are people in your community with fucked up views which have to be bought to justice. Muslims were killed in 9/11, muslims are killed daily in the suicide bombings, and Muslims were killed in the 7/7 attack.

[shreefjatt]

whoa buddy ... chill ... it's a small minority don't blame the rest ... did anyone ever say to you ... that it was people from your community that went around killing innocent muslims in india and knocking down mosques because they believed in it for a cause.

was the whole catholic community blamed when the IRA used to set off bombs in London and Ireland .. i dont think so

wheredid u heard that we have killed muslims
and about knocking down mosques
how many mosques have been knocked
leave apart the ayodhaya issue
in india there are more muslims then pakistan
we respect allof them
and care for them
they are part of india

[MrT]

#


You have me mistaken Sohail...I am not blaming anyone - what I am saying is that isn't it time the Muslim community became a little more active in bringing these losers to justice?
Not gonna happen...because apparently "what we stand for" will be for nothing./Sarcasm

[SSSash]

whoa buddy ... chill ... it's a small minority don't blame the rest ... did anyone ever say to you ... that it was people from your community that went around killing innocent muslims in india and knocking down mosques because they believed in it for a cause.

was the whole catholic community blamed when the IRA used to set off bombs in London and Ireland .. i dont think so

i think u need to read the first post again

[mr photographer]

Well mate i totally agree
first step towards this should be banning all the terrorist outfits in muslim country
like in pkaistan there are many terrorists training camps
pakistan govt should take care of this
and put all of them in jail

yes and they train sikh militants too ;) well who else is going to train the sikh militants if they get put in jail :p

[illomatic]

Well mate i totally agree
first step towards this should be banning all the terrorist outfits in muslim country
like in pkaistan there are many terrorists training camps
pakistan govt should take care of this
and put all of them in jail

yo fuck you

you seem to know more about terrorist then anybody else
you should be put in jail


and what the fuck is a terrorist outfit?
u act like ur fucking kind of people dont rock the same clothing.

how would a pakistan government be able to take care of a BRITISH person

think smart .

[shreefjatt]

i think u need to read the first post again
yes right
the first post never stated that all muslims are to be blamed for this
these are only few people who are to be blamed

[mr photographer]

wheredid u heard that we have killed muslims
and about knocking down mosques
how many mosques have been knocked
leave apart the ayodhaya issue
in india there are more muslims then pakistan
we respect allof them
and care for them
they are part of india

i think you should wake up to look into attrocities that have taken place within your own country ... try reading the newspapers more often :p

[shreefjatt]

yo fuck you

you seem to know more about terrorist then anybody else
you should be put in jail


and what the fuck is a terrorist outfit?
u act like ur fucking kind of people dont rock the same clothing.

how would a pakistan government be able to take care of a BRITISH person

think smart .
i think bbc have been reporting that all the bombers attended madassar's in pakistan
and all terrorsts in kashmir are trained in pakistan
dont ignore this fact

[shreefjatt]

yes and they train sikh militants too ;) well who else is going to train the sikh militants if they get put in jail :p
well i have only one answer
fuck the sikh militants
i dont favour their action
there cause is not valid
84 riots are long over

[Skittlexx]

i think bbc have been reporting that all the bombers attended madassar's in pakistan
and all terrorsts in kashmir are trained in pakistan
dont ignore this fact

The bombers weren't trained. They were born and raised in England. So the "facts" you're talking about are rubbish.

[mr photographer]

i think u need to read the first post again

i know what he's saying ... waht im trying to point out is how is one to know whats happening within the community when people in reality don't even know whats going on within one's own household or family ... i dont have the time of day to know whats happening in my community .. i have a busy working life ... do you know whats happening in your community and who's doing what

[shreefjatt]

i think you should wake up to look into attrocities that have taken place within your own country ... try reading the newspapers more often :p
dont u bring indian muslims into this
they dont support these attacks
and they dont love ur pakistan ass
thats why they are wth us
not u

[illomatic]

i think bbc have been reporting that all the bombers attended madassar's in pakistan
and all terrorsts in kashmir are trained in pakistan
dont ignore this fact
Most muslims attend maddrassa's where they are from.
obviously.

thats like saying u attend gurdwara in india... no shit.

95% of terrorist in a city, are trained in that country

so how is it a fact, if its not 100%

[shreefjatt]

The bombers weren't trained. They were born and raised in England. So the "facts" you're talking about are rubbish.
but they were inspired by them
they even attended these outfits and madassars in pakistan
if these things wouldn't have been there
they would have never done this stupid thing

[Street_Scholar]

I think it's high time the muslims who condemn these attacks and who truely believe that these are wrong do something about it then just keep telling everyone it's wrong...

These are people from your community going around fucking up other people's lives...these are people who are representing and tainting your religion...Don't you think it's time to turn around and find out who the fuck is doing it?!

To date all I have heard are muslim leaders coming on TV saying how bad it is and not to blame all muslims for it. I think it is high time they stood side by side with the world leaders and say "you know what, whatever troubles we have are not important right now - lets find these assholes putting our religion down and then sort everything else out".



You look like a tea-sipping French men! in a miniskirt ;lol

[Skittlexx]

but they were inspired by them
they even attended these outfits and madassars in pakistan
if these things wouldn't have been there
they would have never done this stupid thing

You can't blame it on that though. The man that attacked today is thought to be British Asian too, we can't say he went to a terrorist camp. The main thing is the brainwashing that happens within this country alone. You can see England is growing their own terrorists by the way that SOME muslims are treated.... They turn to terrorism because they get SO pissed off! Pakistani Terrorist Camps is a scapegoat for the Western World to blame.

[illomatic]

dont u bring indian muslims into this
they dont support these attacks
and they dont love ur pakistan ass
thats why they are wth us
not u
LOL this fob is talking mad shit.

sohail, shut this ***** up

[shreefjatt]

Most muslims attend maddrassa's where they are from.
obviously.

thats like saying u attend gurdwara in india... no shit.

95% of terrorist in a city, are trained in that country

so how is it a fact, if its not 100%
well i am really sorry for my comment then

and i dont blame pakistan for this
they have shown their cncern against teroorism during war in afghanistan
i appreciate their role out there

but u believe me or not
pakistan govt is well aware of what all shit happens there
but they feel pressured by the power of these outfits
and dont bother to stop them

[vikownethu]

The bombers weren't trained. They were born and raised in England. So the "facts" you're talking about are rubbish.

Its not a fact. But the BBC did report that the bombers involved had attended Pakistan recently, and are likely to have been at such camps.

[Street_Scholar]

Can the Internet warriors - stop arguing?

[Street_Scholar]

I bet the Jews are having a real good laugh!

Don't believe everything you hear and see!

[illomatic]

well i am really sorry for my comment then

and i dont blame pakistan for this
they have shown their cncern against teroorism during war in afghanistan
i appreciate their role out there

but u believe me or not
pakistan govt is well aware of what all shit happens there
but they feel pressured by the power of these outfits
and dont bother to stop them
pakistan is the #1 country that i helping locate terrorist

so how u figure what u're saying makes any sense?

[illomatic]

I bet the Jews are having a real good laugh!

Don't believe everything you hear and see!
LLOL!

[shreefjatt]

You can't blame it on that though. The man that attacked today is thought to be British Asian too, we can't say he went to a terrorist camp. The main thing is the brainwashing that happens within this country alone. You can see England is growing their own terrorists by the way that SOME muslims are treated.... They turn to terrorism because they get SO pissed off! Pakistani Terrorist Camps is a scapegoat for the Western World to blame.
This is not a valid reasopn for terrorism
that if u have been treated badly then u should start bombing the country where u are born
did negro's ever used these techniques while they faces rascicm
and i think the humilation faced by muslims in western countries is nothing compared what all shit the black person's have gone through

[Skittlexx]

Its not a fact. But the BBC did report that the bombers involved had attended Pakistan recently, and are likely to have been at such camps.

Possible... But also at the same time, it's a fairy tale ideology to blame it all on a camp... x

[shreefjatt]

pakistan is the #1 country that i helping locate terrorist

so how u figure what u're saying makes any sense?
because pakistan have double standard towards terrorism
they couldn't say no to USA for afganistan
because if they have did that they would have been in deep shit
but what about kashmir
dont they support terrorists of kashmir
and they support babbar khalsa terrorist outfit too

[bully]

I think it's high time the muslims who condemn these attacks and who truely believe that these are wrong do something about it then just keep telling everyone it's wrong...

These are people from your community going around fucking up other people's lives...these are people who are representing and tainting your religion...Don't you think it's time to turn around and find out who the fuck is doing it?!

To date all I have heard are muslim leaders coming on TV saying how bad it is and not to blame all muslims for it. I think it is high time they stood side by side with the world leaders and say "you know what, whatever troubles we have are not important right now - lets find these assholes putting our religion down and then sort everything else out".
shut da fuk up . its not thier fault it happend is it . and shudnt da goverment be doing all dat shit

[Skittlexx]

This is not a valid reasopn for terrorism
that if u have been treated badly then u should start bombing the country where u are born
did negro's ever used these techniques while they faces rascicm
and i think the humilation faced by muslims in western countries is nothing compared what all shit the black person's have gone through

I've met people like that in the past, that believe terrorism is good, and its scary to see people like that in this country... And this was a year or two ago. When they thought 911 was for the best. Terrorism is a new concept. And blacks did turn to violence, why else do you think they are so feared... But that's not the point at hand here.

[shreefjatt]

shut da fuk up . its not thier fault it happend is it . and shudnt da goverment be doing all dat shit
which govt?????

[illomatic]

because pakistan have double standard towards terrorism
they couldn't say no to USA for afganistan
because if they have did that they would have been in deep shit
but what about kashmir
dont they support terrorists of kashmir
and they support babbar khalsa terrorist outfit too
have u been to kashmir?

lol does it look like they even care about kashmir?

what about indians?
they allow the same shit in india, thats why both of these fucking countries are retarded/

[illomatic]

which govt?????
india government

now shut the fuck up

nothing u made sense, so far.

[shreefjatt]

I've met people like that in the past, that believe terrorism is good, and its scary to see people like that in this country... And this was a year or two ago. When they thought 911 was for the best. Terrorism is a new concept. And blacks did turn to violence, why else do you think they are so feared... But that's not the point at hand here.
blacks are violent by nature
and they get punished for their these acts
but they are never called terrorists
because their attacks are not against the country where they live
its against the people who have said something bad to them

[Skittlexx]

blacks are violent by nature
and they get punished for their these acts
but they are never called terrorists
because their attacks are not against the country where they live
its against the people who have said something bad to them

I repeat. Thats not the point at hand.

[vikownethu]

Possible... But also at the same time, it's a fairy tale ideology to blame it all on a camp... x

Not blaming it on the camp completely. The terrorists hold seminars in the UK too..They showed a day at a mosque and filmed..People were going to pray as usual, but leaflets were being handed out by people from these groups outside, with nobody telling them to shift it

A conference was held at a football stadium, but was secretly being watched on a tv. They showed scenes from different films, in which various American buildings and monuments are destroyed, to incite.


Its the camps in remote areas of Pakistan, but also in the UK too, where these terrorists are groomed.

[bully]

da goverment wich gettin terrorised obviously

[shreefjatt]

have u been to kashmir?

lol does it look like they even care about kashmir?

what about indians?
they allow the same shit in india, thats why both of these fucking countries are retarded/
u shut the fuck up
my dad has been posted to kashmir from last 3 years
and people hae been dying there everyday
thats all because pakistan wants to take revenge from india about the bangladesh separation

they have been supporting kashmir terroriss from beginning
u forgot the terrorists in kargil war who died had id cards of pakistan army

[Skittlexx]

Not blaming it on the camp completely. The terrorists hold seminars in the UK too..They showed a day at a mosque and filmed..People were going to pray as usual, but leaflets were being handed out by people from these groups outside, with nobody telling them to shift it

A conference was held at a football stadium, but was secretly being watched on a tv. They showed scenes from different films, in which various American buildings and monuments are destroyed, to incite.


Its the camps in remote areas of Pakistan, but also in the UK too, where these terrorists are groomed.

I live in Harrow, today the mosque had like 3 police cars outside it :neutral: And usually there are these guys in Harrow who preach about Islam constantly, and I haven't seen them since 6/7...

Sorry, I just had no response to what you said. Im of Indian origin, grow up with my family condemning all muslims, and I don't want to be like that so I like to keep an open mind. x

[shreefjatt]

the only point we are making here is that
the muslim community should stand tall against these outfits

[bully]

the only point we are making here is that
the muslim community should stand tall against these outfits
like there not

[shreefjatt]

I live in Harrow, today the mosque had like 3 police cars outside it :neutral: And usually there are these guys in Harrow who preach about Islam constantly, and I haven't seen them since 6/7...

Sorry, I just had no response to what you said. Im of Indian origin, grow up with my family condemning all muslims, and I don't want to be like that so I like to keep an open mind. x

is harrow school of computer education close to your place
i may be coming there for my master's

[Skittlexx]

is harrow school of computer education close to your place
i may be coming there for my master's

Never heard of it :neutral: You get a lot of these school of educations that people of other countries think are huge, but they're like a few classrooms above a block of shops lol x

[vikownethu]

I live in Harrow, today the mosque had like 3 police cars outside it :neutral: And usually there are these guys in Harrow who preach about Islam constantly, and I haven't seen them since 6/7...

Sorry, I just had no response to what you said. Im of Indian origin, grow up with my family condemning all muslims, and I don't want to be like that so I like to keep an open mind. x

Harrow, like a 15 min bus ride away from me lol.

Soz didn't quite get what you meant in your last paragraph. Yeah my parents are from India too, with my dad condeming muslims. I have muslim mates, who blame the muslim community themselves, for not taking responsibility for the problem.

[shreefjatt]

like there not
they are
but they havnt done anything yet to show their concern

[shreefjatt]

Never heard of it :neutral: You get a lot of these school of educations that people of other countries think are huge, but they're like a few classrooms above a block of shops lol x
its under westminister university
anyways thnxfor telling
fuck the harrow school of computer education now lol
i am going to university of wales swansea
i hope this university is not on the 2nd floor of some shops
:rofl:

[bully]

they are
but they havnt done anything yet to show their concern
u trying to say all dese ppl cuming together and speaches they be making ann all dem kinda things isnt showin concern

[ilostamothfknbet]

shreefjatt is not pulling things out of his as$... some madrassas if not MANY in countries like Pakistan ARE basically the breeding grounds for terrorists. in my point of view.. based on what i've seen/heard.. kids are basically brainwashed and given an education that's not very useful in the real world.

[vikownethu]

Harrow, like a 15 min bus ride away from me lol.

Soz didn't quite get what you meant in your last paragraph. Yeah my parents are from India too, with my dad condeming muslims. I have muslim mates, who blame the muslim community themselves, for not taking responsibility for the problem.

Lemme just clarify, that I am in no way bashing muslims, before someone interprets something I've said in some way!..grr why I don't usually get involved in these types of threads.

[shreefjatt]

shreefjatt is not pulling things out of his as$... some madrassas if not MANY in countries like Pakistan ARE basically the breeding grounds for terrorists. in my point of view.. based on what i've seen/heard.. kids are basically brainwashed and given an education that's not very useful in the real world.
thnx for saving my ass dear :hug:

[Skittlexx]

Harrow, like a 15 min bus ride away from me lol.

Soz didn't quite get what you meant in your last paragraph. Yeah my parents are from India too, with my dad condeming muslims. I have muslim mates, who blame the muslim community themselves, for not taking responsibility for the problem.

Ahh well it's like 20 mins away from Me :p My bus comes once in a never too... Stanmore Baby :Oops:

But yeah, I just read over my last paragraph... I mean, in my family, theyre very strong minded Indians you know? They're not "muslim-friendly"... Which is why Im the misfit, cos I dont wanna be like them, I try and keep it so that Im not a racist! x

[shreefjatt]

i dont hate muslims too
i am not a racist
but i wanna see peace in this world
and i think usa should stop iraq invasion
al qaida should be destryed

but i know its not possible

[Skittlexx]

i dont hate muslims too
i am not a racist
but i wanna see peace in this world
and i think usa should stop iraq invasion
al qaida should be destryed

but i know its not possible

Which is another point thats disturbing. On Sunday, there was a terrorist bomb in Iraq, killed 139 people I think it was... And no one's spoken of it since :neutral:

[shreefjatt]

Which is another point thats disturbing. On Sunday, there was a terrorist bomb in Iraq, killed 139 people I think it was... And no one's spoken of it since :neutral:
yeah its true
that there is fuss about 4 bombings in london
which even didnt killed anyone
whereas there have been bombings in iraq everyday
thousands of people have dies since iraq invasion


as UK and USA are powerfull nations thats why they are getting all the attention
Fuckin lot of people have been dying all over the world due to terrorism
nobody cares for them

[illomatic]

u shut the fuck up
my dad has been posted to kashmir from last 3 years
and people hae been dying there everyday
thats all because pakistan wants to take revenge from india about the bangladesh separation

they have been supporting kashmir terroriss from beginning
u forgot the terrorists in kargil war who died had id cards of pakistan army
planting evidence can be pretty easy, and do i care where u dad is?
make me shut the fuck up, pussy.

[illomatic]

this thread = retarded

$100 says that if the terrorist were hindu/sikh whatever

these *****s talking mad shit, would be quiter then a fuckin church mouse.

[shreefjatt]

planting evidence can be pretty easy, and do i care where u dad is?
make me shut the fuck up, pussy.
:blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah:

[mullah omar]

$100 says that if the terrorist were hindu/sikh whatever
these *****s talking mad shit, would be quiter then a fuckin church mouse.

thats a lame argument.

[illomatic]

thats a lame argument.
and i asked for ur opinion, when?

[illomatic]

:blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah:
lol dont be mad i dont give 2 shits boutchu

be on ur way lil *****

[mullah omar]

and i asked for ur opinion, when?

buddy grow up, this is not grade 7.

[shreefjatt]

lol dont be mad i dont give 2 shits boutchu

be on ur way lil *****
u r :asshole:
:blahblah:

[illomatic]

buddy grow up, this is not grade 7.
grade 7?

OKAYY there ...

once u get off the boat, i hope u have a safe stay at ratedesi!

[illomatic]

u r :asshole:
:blahblah:
kaboom!

[shreefjatt]

grade 7?

OKAYY there ...

once u get off the boat, i hope u have a safe stay at ratedesi!

dont call him a fob
u r asian too
i wonder why u thinku are supercool when u are not

[ilostamothfknbet]

illomatic/ali... yo calm down dawg.. why are you getting all worked up and defensive? i've never seen you post so immaturely.. if you have a point to make, make it civily.. no need to start calling people names and shit. no one is trying to bash muslims here.. at least i'm not.. i'm trying to see this as OBJECTIVELY as possible.. and i don't see why you're acting as if none of this is even remotely true.

[mullah omar]

grade 7?

OKAYY there ...

once u get off the boat, i hope u have a safe stay at ratedesi!

right...that makes a lot of sense. after all you are a paki, can't really expect anything better from you.

[paulie walnuts]

this thread = retarded

$100 says that if the terrorist were hindu/sikh whatever

these *****s talking mad shit, would be quiter then a fuckin church mouse.
why is that this hypothetical of yours never seems to happen? :sarb:

[shreefjatt]

^^ I agree with u gal
i never said i hate muslims
but i can see him as a supporter of terrorists
thats why he is gettin mad on my points

[illomatic]

^^ I agree with u gal
i never said i hate muslims
but i can see him as a supporter of terrorists
thats why he is gettin mad on my points
so now i support terrorist?
wtf is wrong with u?



here some shit you say that has contradictions

"wheredid u heard that we have killed muslims
and about knocking down mosques
how many mosques have been knocked
leave apart the ayodhaya issue
in india there are more muslims then pakistan
we respect allof them
and care for them
they are part of india"
---so paki muslims are any different from indian muslims?

"dont u bring indian muslims into this
they dont support these attacks
and they dont love ur pakistan ass
thats why they are wth us
not u"
---so ur saying paki muslims support these attacks?

i think bbc have been reporting that all the bombers attended madassar's in pakistan
and all terrorsts in kashmir are trained in pakistan
dont ignore this fact
--so a few madrassa's had some undercover shit going on. hopefully they'll get taken down soon.
And the kashmir shit, i dont even know about, so i ain't gonna speak on it.

but this guy's saying that pakistan has to do something about things that go on, "under the sheets" so to speak... if they are "under the sheets" there isnt really much you can do about it, till you find out about it.


and shibz, i dont care if i was being immature or not, i wasn't saying anyone was bashing anybody.

true or not, this guys going the wrong way about it.
basically the way the media does. " Oh, these bombers are all pakistani, they went to madrassa's in pakistan, this that and the third."

he could simply say "Pakistan, or any other country , REGARDLESS OF RELIGION, should rid Terrorist any way they can."

Specifically pointing out 1 country, and not another does no good.
remembers, there's all types of Terrorist.
just cuz the last few terrorist happen to be muslim, and pakistan/saudi arabian/egyptian, what have you, doesnt mean that they are trained in pakistan, or in a madrassa, and whoever fits that description is a terrorist

[El_Diablo]

I think it's high time the muslims who condemn these attacks and who truely believe that these are wrong do something about it then just keep telling everyone it's wrong...

These are people from your community going around fucking up other people's lives...these are people who are representing and tainting your religion...Don't you think it's time to turn around and find out who the fuck is doing it?!

To date all I have heard are muslim leaders coming on TV saying how bad it is and not to blame all muslims for it. I think it is high time they stood side by side with the world leaders and say "you know what, whatever troubles we have are not important right now - lets find these assholes putting our religion down and then sort everything else out".

I believe the west have already took the aforementioned course of action. Look where thats got them. :rolleyes:

All prominent muslim figures(uk based) have stood clearly and condemned the acts of those few... What fucking more can u ask for son?? we demonstarte true islam to the fullest n u say we need to sort ourselves out?? at least were (true muslims) not going around ripping other countries apart in an attempt to make the world a 'safer' place, as blair n bush seem to be doing.

How can u expect the core breed of muslims to unite with the world leaders, when they(world leaders) have a different agenda themselves??

Its all politics, eye for an eye, world domination. blah blah blah...

[teyana]

no matter how much people/leaders get up and condemn these kinds of actions, there are people out there who will go out and commit these kinds of acts. most of them do so because they experience similar acts towards themselves or see similar acts being carried out on others who they sympathise for and in the end they just go and do pretty much the same whereby they hurt innocent people.

i've seen nothing but condemnation for the stuff thats happened, however leaders condemning the acts won't change peoples minds and prevent them from doing what they set out to do - maybe instead of condemning, the governments/leaders should look at why these people do these things.

[morning_dew]

Its not a fact. But the BBC did report that the bombers involved had attended Pakistan recently, and are likely to have been at such camps.
im glad bengalis aren't involved in any of these shenanigans :no:

[morning_dew]

I think it's high time the muslims who condemn these attacks and who truely believe that these are wrong do something about it then just keep telling everyone it's wrong...

These are people from your community going around fucking up other people's lives...these are people who are representing and tainting your religion...Don't you think it's time to turn around and find out who the fuck is doing it?!

To date all I have heard are muslim leaders coming on TV saying how bad it is and not to blame all muslims for it. I think it is high time they stood side by side with the world leaders and say "you know what, whatever troubles we have are not important right now - lets find these assholes putting our religion down and then sort everything else out".

do you not think this is exactly what these terrorists want...to cause 'terror'...to divide communities....to cause racism/prejudice...........to get as much attention in the limelight they can?
For eff's sake you retards LIVE, EAT, WORK in this country how can you just kill your fellow citizens and betray that same country...just like that?
i reckon for these psychopathic morons who do shit like this (kill innocent people and then say its the word of God) would do shit like this more-the more you tell them not to or the more people actually act against them.....i reckon that the psychos we are dealing with that'd give them an even greater thrill...? possibly?
i think we need to understand the causes of these problems more, have tighter security together with greater punishment introduced.

[longjohnsilver]

What are the points of all these arguments? Its obvious who did it end of. The only question is how to resolve the problem. Maybe they'll declare marshall law...who knows

[vikownethu]

im glad bengalis aren't involved in any of these shenanigans :no:

Lol, one of my best mates is Bengali, and got stopped by police for a search when he was on the tube yesterday. They said they had been told he was from Pakistan, and had been spotted at various places..He was like wtf, and after a half hour search, they said "ok we can see you're not him, but we had the right to search you." :neutral:

[chocolat]

Lol, one of my best mates is Bengali, and got stopped by police for a search when he was on the tube yesterday. They said they had been told he was from Pakistan, and had been spotted at various places..He was like wtf, and after a half hour search, they said "ok we can see you're not him, but we had the right to search you." :neutral:

It's kinda like what happens to my dad. He travels a LOT, and every single time, he gets "randomly" searched.

[vikownethu]

It's kinda like what happens to my dad. He travels a LOT, and every single time, he gets "randomly" searched.

Yeah I no, its fooked..Gotta liv with it now though :neutral:

[morning_dew]

Lol, one of my best mates is Bengali, and got stopped by police for a search when he was on the tube yesterday. They said they had been told he was from Pakistan, and had been spotted at various places..He was like wtf, and after a half hour search, they said "ok we can see you're not him, but we had the right to search you." :neutral:
wtf?? dumb gaurai! :no: to them anyone whose asian are 'pakis' :dunno: racist ******s. :mad:

[chocolat]

Yeah I no, its fooked..Gotta liv with it now though :neutral:

yeah, unfortunately.

[rreal]

I think it's high time the muslims who condemn these attacks and who truely believe that these are wrong do something about it then just keep telling everyone it's wrong...

These are people from your community going around fucking up other people's lives...these are people who are representing and tainting your religion...Don't you think it's time to turn around and find out who the fuck is doing it?!

To date all I have heard are muslim leaders coming on TV saying how bad it is and not to blame all muslims for it. I think it is high time they stood side by side with the world leaders and say "you know what, whatever troubles we have are not important right now - lets find these assholes putting our religion down and then sort everything else out".

Thanx for pointing that out. But I still see no positive attitude towards reforming their community youth, all talk no action. Bytheway how ironic, pakistani nationals who illegally occupied land of afghanistan are killing innocent ppl in britain for the sake of Iraqies who themselves lookin forward to establish democracy and fight off sunni insurgency. :p

[mullah omar]

Thanx for pointing that out. But I still see no positive attitude towards reforming their community youth, all talk no action. Bytheway how ironic, pakistani nationals who illegally occupied land of afghanistan are killing innocent ppl in britain for the sake of Iraqies who themselves lookin forward to establish democracy and fight off sunni insurgency. :p

and how do you know they are fighting for the sake of Iraqis??

[Skittlexx]

This thread has caused so many arguments :( x

[rreal]

and how do you know they are fighting for the sake of Iraqis??
they posted it on their website :rolleyes:

[mr photographer]

shreefjatt is not pulling things out of his as$... some madrassas if not MANY in countries like Pakistan ARE basically the breeding grounds for terrorists. in my point of view.. based on what i've seen/heard.. kids are basically brainwashed and given an education that's not very useful in the real world.

what utter crap ... thats like saying gurdwara's are a breeding ground for pervy priests ... like the sikh playright woman who made a theatre production called behzthi based upon the local community and the misconduct that happens in gurdwara's .. and the sikh community was up in arms ... complaining about the nature of the play .. they wanted to sweep it under the carpet ... so you can't generalise just because one's like that and the rest are going to be the same ... so yeah most of you are chatting out of your ass's

so basically i take it you have visited every madrassa to know its a breeding ground for terrorists ... thats some ground you have covered ... don't you just hate ignorance :neutral:

[Curry4daWorld]

I think it's high time the muslims who condemn these attacks and who truely believe that these are wrong do something about it then just keep telling everyone it's wrong...

These are people from your community going around fucking up other people's lives...these are people who are representing and tainting your religion...Don't you think it's time to turn around and find out who the fuck is doing it?!

To date all I have heard are muslim leaders coming on TV saying how bad it is and not to blame all muslims for it. I think it is high time they stood side by side with the world leaders and say "you know what, whatever troubles we have are not important right now - lets find these assholes putting our religion down and then sort everything else out".


I heard powerful muslim religious leaders can condemn terrorist attacks as "insert a word form the Qu'ran (forgot what its called)" That basically declares any attack like that religiously wrong and that Allah would condemn them or something like that. They should just do that instead of saying its not their faults.

[methodman535]

The bombers weren't trained. They were born and raised in England. So the "facts" you're talking about are rubbish.


Didnt one or more of the bombers pay a visit to paki madrassas?

[WonkaBear]

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[Rizla]

I think it's high time the muslims who condemn these attacks and who truely believe that these are wrong do something about it then just keep telling everyone it's wrong...

These are people from your community going around fucking up other people's lives...these are people who are representing and tainting your religion...Don't you think it's time to turn around and find out who the fuck is doing it?!

To date all I have heard are muslim leaders coming on TV saying how bad it is and not to blame all muslims for it. I think it is high time they stood side by side with the world leaders and say "you know what, whatever troubles we have are not important right now - lets find these assholes putting our religion down and then sort everything else out".

You say it as if these "communities" know whats going on. Im muslim and I dont even know who these muslim "leaders" are! I dont get where they come from. At the end of the day, this has NOTHING to do with Islam, so there should be no reason that "leaders" from one "community" (which doesnt exist, but you seem to think does) should come out and say "We'll find out whats going on". Just because these current bombers appear to be muslim, doesnt mean every muslim knows whats going on. These muslim leaders shouldnt have to explain to others that Muslims dont are unhappy about the bombings. How the hell are these "leaders" supposed to "find these assholes"?? How? These people keep to their own little fucked up groups and even their own FAMILIES, who are straight forward, British Muslims just wanting to live their lives in peace, dont know what they are getting up to.

They are not from MY community.. They are sad, pathetic loners who have one sick thing on their mind - to kill innocents, no matter if they are killing innocent Muslims, Hindus, Christians, whatever!

[The Anti Desi]

HUNT THESE TERRORIST DOWN.....and eliminate them!!!

[FatGeezer]

Everyone should know by now that SoulFlyer just talks out of his A-Hole trying to instigate shit. I think he had his balls chopped off too and just venting his frustration. Leave him boys, he aint been laid for a long time....

[mr photographer]

Everyone should know by now that SoulFlyer just talks out of his A-Hole trying to instigate shit. I think he had his balls chopped off too and just venting his frustration. Leave him boys, he aint been laid for a long time....

:rofl:

[soulflyer]

:rofl:


Personally i do not know who this fatgeezer is...but i'd expect better from you Sohail :neutral:

[keyzersoze]

Mr. Photographers "defending" his religion but comes off as a prick...He said this and he said that....fuk it....soulflyer (god rest his soul) started a good topic bout muslim communities gettin together to stop this terrorist shit....but sadly it backfired....now i aint sayin that all muslims r bad muthas....im no news puppet...but the fact remains and always will is that bad mutha apples are born everywhere and just cuz they belong to ur community dont mean u gotta babysit them...thas Flubbin impossible...

Good topic just bad introduction!
AND DAMMMMMMN THAT MUTHFKNBET LOST GIRL IS MMMMMMMMMMM!!!!

[ilostamothfknbet]

what utter crap ... thats like saying gurdwara's are a breeding ground for pervy priests ... like the sikh playright woman who made a theatre production called behzthi based upon the local community and the misconduct that happens in gurdwara's .. and the sikh community was up in arms ... complaining about the nature of the play .. they wanted to sweep it under the carpet ... so you can't generalise just because one's like that and the rest are going to be the same ... so yeah most of you are chatting out of your ass's

so basically i take it you have visited every madrassa to know its a breeding ground for terrorists ... thats some ground you have covered ... don't you just hate ignorance :neutral:

ignorant? hahah speak for yourself. do you not know how to read? or is it the comprehending part you have trouble with? i said that SOME, not ALL, madrassas are breeding grounds for terrorists.. where the kids are brainwashed into thinking non-muslims are evil and some even include MILITARY TRAINING. what kind of message does that send out?
like i said before which you obviously didn't catch.. not ALL madrassas are like this.. but some are.. and those are the ones the governments of the respective countries should be worried about.

no, i haven't visited every madrassa to know it's a breeding ground for terrorists. have you?

[mirreyboy39]

I think it's high time the muslims who condemn these attacks and who truely believe that these are wrong do something about it then just keep telling everyone it's wrong...

These are people from your community going around fucking up other people's lives...these are people who are representing and tainting your religion...Don't you think it's time to turn around and find out who the fuck is doing it?!

To date all I have heard are muslim leaders coming on TV saying how bad it is and not to blame all muslims for it. I think it is high time they stood side by side with the world leaders and say "you know what, whatever troubles we have are not important right now - lets find these assholes putting our religion down and then sort everything else out".

It's not that simple man. They're too many. Not a single muslim I know likes America's foreign policy. So rid yourself of every single muslim? rid every single religious leader?

Plus in London...18 and 21 yr olds?! wtf, one is two years younger than me and one is a yr older? wtf. i can't even imagine that shit.

So it's really hard. All I can say is that Muslims are in for it in this world especially in America. Life is going to be living hell as we know it.

IMO, there should be no place for extreme religion anywhere in the world. But obviously that's just my opinion. That's obviously bullshit and not practical.

Muslims are just in for the shits :neutral: :-(

[mirreyboy39]

Pakistani, Afghani and many other Islamic leaders have come to the forefront and sai d"we condemn these attacks, they are not the practicings of Islam." That is TOTALLY CORRECT! And the fact theat people in your community, using your religion as a blanket are commiting such sins...i think it is high time your turned around and put them out into the limelight.

They won't and they don't. They don't condemn it at all! That's the thing! Almost no religious leader actually condemns this shit. That's the whole bloody problem in the first place. Musharraf yesterday arrests 300 people and today there were protests all over Pakistan held by the religious parties. It's ridiculous.

I have absolutely no sympathy for any religious muslim leader preaching hate. All these morons need to be whacked off b/c they make my life a living hell. I would be in complete support of putting 500 of Pakistan's biggest religious leaders on a plane or ship and blowing it up. That's what Turkey did 80 odd yrs ago and they're pretty set.

But it's a really fine line (sometimes you can't even see the line). :neutral:

[mirreyboy39]

well i am really sorry for my comment then

and i dont blame pakistan for this
they have shown their cncern against teroorism during war in afghanistan
i appreciate their role out there

but u believe me or not
pakistan govt is well aware of what all shit happens there
but they feel pressured by the power of these outfits
and dont bother to stop them

Arite, so this is Pakistan's problem. These same people helped them and the US against the Soviets in the 1980s. A lot of these people help with the Kashmir stuff going on (Pakistan's biggest (and most useless) concern in life).
And now these same people are attacking the west. So you use their support for two things but you condemn the third?

It's jacked up. I hate extremist Islam, I hate it with a passion.

But as Muslims, we all agree on certain things. Some people get pissed enough and are taught enough extreme information and are uneducated enough to go ahead and blow themselves up.

They're taught lies as well.

Why Muslims don't condemn these things is that in our "hearts of hearts"...yea...we don't really disagree with their complaints. We are against killings and all bad. But we don't agree with what's going on (which are a LIST of our complaints against western foreign policy). So it's hard to be too critical if you know what i mean?

[pnp366]

ignorant? hahah speak for yourself. do you not know how to read? or is it the comprehending part you have trouble with? i said that SOME, not ALL, madrassas are breeding grounds for terrorists.. where the kids are brainwashed into thinking non-muslims are evil and some even include MILITARY TRAINING. what kind of message does that send out?
like i said before which you obviously didn't catch.. not ALL madrassas are like this.. but some are.. and those are the ones the governments of the respective countries should be worried about.

no, i haven't visited every madrassa to know it's a breeding ground for terrorists. have you?


1) some of these 'madrassas' have this type of 'learning' instead of hte peaceful teachings of islam, b/c its what puts food on the table. Government funding isnt reaching them. They get money from the only way they know how. Kill themselves and others, teach hate instead of peace. Its not a great choice, its not even a valid excuse, but thats basically it. When we dont have a choice, this happens.

2) dont you think the gov't is worried about it? dont you think the people are worried about it? dont you think that most all muslims DO think about what these few are doing to our population and our religion? we do care, we do want to voice our issues and stand together and get rid of these backwards thinkers. but if it was that easy we would've done it already.



Soulflyer.... youre right, Muslims around the world, instead of saying how wrong it is that other 'muslims' did this and condeming them, are trying to justify themselves and lessen the degree of this issue by saying its not ALL muslims, its not Islam. The truth is, it takes just ONE molded bread to make the rest of the bread in the package spoiled. Just one.

Saying that its not our fault, its not acceptable, it is our fault. We should've all stood up against this problem long before it ever got so big. B/c Muslims kept quite, hoping that the problem would resolve it self, the problem only got bigger.

You have to remember, words arent enough. Action needs to be taken. And getting any one person to perform an action againt the norm takes a lot, a whole lot of courage, and many people just plain dont have that. Its harder than it looks, and its MUCH easier said than done.

Putting blame on the madrassas, or the whatever isnt going to make anything better.

The root of the problem is that no one wants to directly say what the issue is: We are just plain scared to speak out. 2 or 3 people cant do it, 200-300 people cant do it. Until ALL muslims come together and say enough is enough,none of this is changing. Which is just so very sad.


Anyway im moving this, instead of calm, peaceful talking and suggestions, this just like any other topic is turned into a "i hate you you hate me" thing.

Until we realize that we are ALL wrong, that we have ALL let ourselves down, and become humble enough to accept our wrongs, and our faults, its not going to change.

[mr photographer]

Mr. Photographers "defending" his religion but comes off as a prick...He said this and he said that....fuk it....soulflyer (god rest his soul) started a good topic bout muslim communities gettin together to stop this terrorist shit....but sadly it backfired....now i aint sayin that all muslims r bad muthas....im no news puppet...but the fact remains and always will is that bad mutha apples are born everywhere and just cuz they belong to ur community dont mean u gotta babysit them...thas Flubbin impossible...

Good topic just bad introduction!
AND DAMMMMMMN THAT MUTHFKNBET LOST GIRL IS MMMMMMMMMMM!!!!

and why shouldn't i defend my religion ... wouldn't you defend yours ... so shut the fuck up .... i work in the fucking media ... i have seen people from all religions do all kinds of shit ... and where these cases were taken to court ... why you don't get to hear about it .. because not everything gets reported in the press .... i have seen hindu religious people get up to some nasty shit ... but you wouldn't hear me make statements like the hindu community should clean up their act and do something about it .... so next time you have a valid point to make ... then make it .... now piss off im tired after chasing bomb scars today

[keyzersoze]

and why shouldn't i defend my religion ... wouldn't you defend yours ... so shut the fuck up .... i work in the fucking media ... i have seen people from all religions do all kinds of shit ... and where these cases were taken to court ... why you don't get to hear about it .. because not everything gets reported in the press .... i have seen hindu religious people get up to some nasty shit ... but you wouldn't hear me make statements like the hindu community should clean up their act and do something about it .... so next time you have a valid point to make ... then make it .... now piss off im tired after chasing bomb scars today


U dumb coconut.....I wuz helpin ur ass out cuz u lookin stupid here....did i say dont defend ur religion u mean mutha....if u read carefully u would notice i said just cuz some bad apples are in UR religion that dont mean they rnt in mine...THERE EVERYWHERE....and its not nebodys fault that cuz muslims bombed the subway ur religion should take the blame....neone else reading this thread and ur response should laugh at ur reading and comprehension skills dumbass!!

[ri0061]

foolish co-co-nut

[BOY_SHIVA]

whoa buddy ... chill ... it's a small minority don't blame the rest ... did anyone ever say to you ... that it was people from your community that went around killing innocent muslims in india and knocking down mosques because they believed in it for a cause.

was the whole catholic community blamed when the IRA used to set off bombs in London and Ireland .. i dont think so

Firstly, about the mosques:

That was only the Babri Masjid and that was done by the government ...not "hindu terrorists"

Secondly, about killing innocent muslims:

Those were riots where innocent Hindus were killed by muslims too

So tell me now how either of these two points are related to terrorism?

[BOY_SHIVA]

The bombers weren't trained. They were born and raised in England. So the "facts" you're talking about are rubbish.

But I think you need to know that these so called British born muslims received briefings in a Madrassa in Northern Pakistan b4 the attacks.

[BOY_SHIVA]

have u been to kashmir?

lol does it look like they even care about kashmir?

what about indians?
they allow the same shit in india, thats why both of these fucking countries are retarded/


Yes we Do care about Kashmir..thats why we spent so much on those nukes

[BOY_SHIVA]

u shut the fuck up
my dad has been posted to kashmir from last 3 years
and people hae been dying there everyday
thats all because pakistan wants to take revenge from india about the bangladesh separation

they have been supporting kashmir terroriss from beginning
u forgot the terrorists in kargil war who died had id cards of pakistan army

You ALL ought to know that what he's saying is right cuz my uncle went on a recent trip to Kashmir. He spoke at lenght with villagers and Jawans ( Indian soldiers ) as well. Moreover, its a well known fact that Pakistan attempted to take over kargil in response to India's direct involvement in Bangladesh's independence in 1971.

Alot of you are drawing many general statements from very few facts. We may not be stressing on more than one idea here but we have many facts at hand.

[BOY_SHIVA]

grade 7?

OKAYY there ...

once u get off the boat, i hope u have a safe stay at ratedesi!


He tried to make sumthin funny outta the FOB thing....

Dude seriously, grow ballz and think of sumthin original...cuz the more u shit-talk with such poor quality the more u justify our idea of u being lame and frustrated. You don't even know a rat's ass about Indo-Pak history and here you are fartin bullshit thru ure mouth like u know more than a guy living close to Kashmir itself....

The only Indian news u really read are the big time history making headlines ..whereas there are other ppl who keep up with everyday small events in various cities that affect India in some small way or the other....i mean like fuck!!

shut ure dirty little hole and let the adults speak here okay!!

[BOY_SHIVA]

illomatic/ali... yo calm down dawg.. why are you getting all worked up and defensive? i've never seen you post so immaturely.. if you have a point to make, make it civily.. no need to start calling people names and shit. no one is trying to bash muslims here.. at least i'm not.. i'm trying to see this as OBJECTIVELY as possible.. and i don't see why you're acting as if none of this is even remotely true.

atta girl!! *pats her on the ass* .... :mrgreen:

Joking..

[lili420]

I think it's high time the muslims who condemn these attacks and who truely believe that these are wrong do something about it then just keep telling everyone it's wrong...

These are people from your community going around fucking up other people's lives...these are people who are representing and tainting your religion...Don't you think it's time to turn around and find out who the fuck is doing it?!

To date all I have heard are muslim leaders coming on TV saying how bad it is and not to blame all muslims for it. I think it is high time they stood side by side with the world leaders and say "you know what, whatever troubles we have are not important right now - lets find these assholes putting our religion down and then sort everything else out".
ok, let me clear something up for u guys here. if all of us normal Musllims knew who was a bomber and who was preaching hate and all, the community would do wutever it could to stop them. but the fact is, most of us are just as clueless as non-muslims are. i go to th mosque regularly and we continuously hear the Imam preaching peace, stop the hatred, terrorism is haram, and love and loyalty to ur country(US). Now, i understand that the British Muslims that did the bombings were just normal ppl like us, but i can guarentee that their hatred wasnt taught to them from the mosque. otherwise, if u look at the Muslim population of the world and the amount of actual terrorists there are, the terrorists arent even 1 percent. if mosques taught this prolly all of us would have died due to terrorism already. and as for those who say that its being taught in pakistan, well ive lived in pakistan for 4 yrs. the majority of ppl in pakistan are just as peaceful and normal as anywhere else in the world and they are not extremists. and and the president of pakistan, is doing everything he can to hunt down all ppl who are teaching shit. he facing alot of crap from the extremists for his efforts too. so, the Muslims that do have some sort of an idea as to whos causing trouble ARE trying to stop it, but obviously the ppl teaching hatred and terrorism arent that easy to stop or else we wouldnt have so many problems in the wolrd today in the first place. so dont get the idea that Mulsim leaders wouldnt stop terrorist if they could. terrorists have to keep their shitty ideas away from good Muslims too. they cant let ppl in real Mulsim communities know their plans and get away with it. and the reaon that Mulsim leaders keep coming on tv to tell ppl that its not the majority and only a small fraction is so that innocent Muslims arent targeted by hate crimes.