The Desi Woman

[Khusum]

2 rapes, 4 murders every hour in India Source: IANS. Image
Source: IANS
New Delhi, Mar 11: How crime prone is India? Every hour, 25 violent
crimes take place in the country while 59 housewives commit suicide every day.

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And two accidental deaths occur every two minutes across this vast country of a billion people.

The violent crimes include two rapes, four murders, 10 culpable homicides and one dowry death on an hourly basis, say figures compiled by the National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB).

A snapshot of the other heinous crimes is also an eye-opener - 17 crimes are committed against a woman every hour, three kidnappings and abductions and five crimes are carried out against a Scheduled Caste/Tribe person, hourly.

In its latest report "Crime in India", related to 2002, the NCRB states that a total of 5,531,172 cognisable crimes were registered of which 1,780,330 were crimes attracting provisions of the Indian Penal Code. The rest were crimes reported under Special and Local Laws (SLL), which cover 22 heads like gambling, illegal arms possession and prostitution, an increase of 3.5 percent over the previous year.

Interestingly, the union territory of Pondicherry reported the highest crime rate (447.7) for all IPC crimes, 2.6 times the national crime rate of 169.5. It also reported 54 suicides per 100,000 of population as against the national average of 10.6.

Kerala reported the highest crime rate followed by Assam and Arunachal Pradesh.

Uttar Pradesh, the country's most populous state, had the dubious distinction of accounting for 19 percent of the total of 35,290 murder cases registered for the year.

As for crimes against women, Chhattisgarh reported 38.4 percent of a total of 146,678 cases registered nationwide. Among the 35-mega cities, Delhi accounted for 24 percent (320 out of 1,312) rape cases and 34 percent (759 of the 2,251) of kidnappings and abduction of women.

Ironically, among the 35 cities, Delhi accounted for 61 percent deaths due to starvation and thirst.

The other highlights of the NCRB report revealed that nearly one fourth of a total of 10,469 crimes committed against children were reported from Madhya Pradesh. The state also reported the highest crime rate of 11.6 for crimes against Scheduled Castes as compared to the national average of 3.2.

Gujarat reported a 146 percent increase in dacoity cases while Tripura showed a 750 percent increase in auto thefts.

As for custodial crimes, 84 custodial deaths were reported across the country, for which 32 policemen were charge-sheeted but none convicted.

In a separate section, the NCRB report disclosed that 19 percent of all accidental deaths in the country were reported from Maharashtra and 26 percent of road accident victims were occupants of either trucks or lorries.

Goa accounted for the highest rate of accidental deaths - 71 per 100,000 population, as compared to the national average of 26.4.

West Bengal, Maharashtra and Karnataka constituted 37 percent of a total of 108,506 suicide victims.

According to the report, 59 housewives, on an average, committed suicide every day in the country. Yet, the average male-female ratio of suicide victims was 61:39.

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[BC_Broad]

that's very sad and disturbing. i'd love to hear the "men have it harder" speeches now.

[Khusum]

that's very sad and disturbing. i'd love to hear the "men have it harder" speeches now.it will come. but only at the price of comments like "well, they were probably fugly so i wouldnt hit it. lolz"

yep.

[yankelicious]

thats so upsetting

[BC_Broad]

it will come. but only at the price of comments like "well, they were probably fugly so i wouldnt hit it. lolz"

yep.

or "were they hot?"

[dr_sinister1001]

Don't you feminists ever take a day off from complaining?

[BC_Broad]

Don't you feminists ever take a day off from complaining?

only when there's a sale or if oprah is on.

[Khusum]

Don't you feminists ever take a day off from complaining?only if u take a lifetime off from rating women like they were pieces of meat.

[jafferman]

we don't have it harder ;)

[jatti_down_under]

Its better you do something about it rather than posting it on RD .

[parkinlotpimp]

Women all women are beautiful personally if a friend of mine was raped or beaaten by a man id kill the sucker in a heart beat my mama raised me proper

[BC_Broad]

we don't have it harder ;)

see, there's a real man! your gf is lucky!

[jafferman]

Women all women are beautiful personally if a friend of mine was raped or beaaten by a man id kill the sucker in a heart beat my mama raised me proper
same hurrrrr

[jafferman]

see, there's a real man! your gf is lucky!
wow if i only had one :p , but kam is a my e-gf :rolleyes:

[BC_Broad]

Its better you do something about it rather than posting it on RD .

baani, its raising awareness. its easier said than done to help others in foreign countries. it gives you perspective on what's going on in the world.

[BC_Broad]

wow if i only had one :p

oh, i thought that "i love kam" was for your girlfriend...sorry!

[jafferman]

oh, i thought that "i love kam" was for your girlfriend...sorry!
well she lives in da uk :(

[jatti_down_under]

baani, its raising awareness. its easier said than done to help others in foreign countries. it gives you perspective on what's going on in the world.

I know whats going on there but i feel desi's outside india are so ignorant and all this news falls on deaf ears and this is true to some extent. Then they complain about their culture, if they come to look at it, they have nothing to complain about.

[ii_khushi86_ii]

Women all women are beautiful personally if a friend of mine was raped or beaaten by a man id kill the sucker in a heart beat my mama raised me proper
:yes:

thats how it should be.. respect women.. your mother is one, obviously.

and we`ll respect you back.

[Khusum]

baani, its raising awareness. its easier said than done to help others in foreign countries. it gives you perspective on what's going on in the world.agreed. :yes: and awareness should be raised. we cant ignore the goings on where our ancestors came from. its good to see the contrast of the have & have nots. nowadays, all we ever hear about india is bollywood and cricket. we hardly ever read or hear about human rights issues.

[BC_Broad]

I know whats going on there but i feel desi's outside india are so ignorant and all this news falls on deaf ears and this is true to some extent. Then they complain about their culture, if they come to look at it, they have nothing to complain about.

um aren't you being a bit arrogant by ignoring the matter? you say its falling on deaf ears but then you're kinda doing the same by ignoring it.

[Ironmaan]

parkinpimp and jafferman- So do u believe that sumone who has raped a person before is not capable of a posotive change? what if it was caused by a psychological imbalance should that person still be killed or thought of negatively. People do have the ability to change and neglect the wrong they did in their past.

[ii_khushi86_ii]

parkinpimp and jafferman- So do u believe that sumone who has raped a person before is not capable of a posotive change? what if it was caused by a psychological imbalance should that person still be killed or thought of negatively. People do have the ability to change and neglect the wrong they did in their past.
no doubt.. people can be changed.

[jafferman]

parkinpimp and jafferman- So do u believe that sumone who has raped a person before is not capable of a posotive change? what if it was caused by a psychological imbalance should that person still be killed or thought of negatively. People do have the ability to change and neglect the wrong they did in their past.
they shouldnt of even done it in the first place :eek:
just shows what values that their parents taught em

[Khusum]

I know whats going on there but i feel desi's outside india are so ignorant and all this news falls on deaf ears and this is true to some extent. Then they complain about their culture, if they come to look at it, they have nothing to complain about.how am i ignorant if i'm acknowledging it? ur attitide reminds me of the indians that got pissed off at oprah for opening up the can of worms about her show on dowry marriages in india.

neeta sharma was interviewed & she told of the horrific things that were done to her yet all the indians that were writing on oprah's website were like "what shame! how can she talk about this???"

well.. how can she NOT talk about it? an atrocity is newsworthy & SHOULD be made known.

[jatti_down_under]

um aren't you being a bit arrogant by ignoring the matter? you say its falling on deaf ears but then you're kinda doing the same by ignoring it.

How am i ignoring it? I know it happens, it happens everyday in india, happens in front of me, ive been to many slum areas over there and ive helped out as much as a 13 yr old kid could do, ever heard of the hunger project?

[BC_Broad]

they shouldnt of even done it in the first place :eek:
just shows what values that their parents taught em

well, its not necessarily a genetic predisposition to be a rapist. some people are just disturbed and get off on that type of control.

[dr_sinister1001]

only if u take a lifetime off from rating women like they were pieces of meat.

Oh please, you feminists make me sick with your double standards. You want equal pay and equal opportunity, but then when the house is burning down, it's the women and children who get to safety 1st, while the men hold up the burning foundation of a collapsing house in nothing but our boxers cause some idiot left the fucking iron on! When's the last time you've ever seen a feminist at a fire? You never see one, they're no where to be found! They all turn into hair twiddling damsels in distress, waving their panties and screaming 'save me I'm just a girl tee hee lolz'. Don't get me wrong I'm down with equality, but the next time the house burns down you better adjust your bar and get back in there and save that goldfish.

:idea:

[jafferman]

well, its not necessarily a genetic predisposition to be a rapist. some people are just disturbed and get off on that type of control.
sicko's!

[P*I*M*P]

thats crazy

[BC_Broad]

How am i ignoring it? I know it happens, it happens everyday in india, happens in front of me, ive been to many slum areas over there and ive helped out as much as a 13 yr old kid could do, ever heard of the hunger project?

okay, for someone that's active in helping others, you should be raising awareness whereever you can. the attitude of "what's the point, it happens all the time and nobody cares" isn't helping the issue. what would you prefer we discuss? what jassi looks like after her make-over? i don't see how you don't get what i'm trying to say.

[BC_Broad]

Oh please, you feminists make me sick with your double standards. You want equal pay and equal opportunity, but then when the house that’s burning down, it's the women and children who get to safety 1st, while the men hold up the burning foundation of a collapsing house in nothing but our boxers cause some idiot left the fucking iron on! When's the last time you've ever seen a feminist at a fire? You never see one, they're no where to be found! They all turn into hair twiddling damsels in distress, waving their panties and screaming 'save me I'm just a girl tee hee lolz'. Don't get me wrong I'm down with equality, but the next time the house burns down you better adjust your bar and get back in there and save that goldfish.

:idea:

my aunt died in a house fire...

[STYLE GOD]

Oh.. there a chance of me becoming a hero in India eh?
Rescuing all the girls/women from being raped by street thugs or desperate pendu hubbies. Hmm.. :sarb:

Anyways... ya thats hella sad.

[dr_sinister1001]

my aunt died in a house fire...

So did mine.

:idea:

[jatti_down_under]

okay, for someone that's active in helping others, you should be raising awareness whereever you can. the attitude of "what's the point, it happens all the time and nobody cares" isn't helping the issue. what would you prefer we discuss? what jassi looks like after her make-over? i don't see how you don't get what i'm trying to say.

I get what you are trying to say but you dont get what im tryin to say, i rather raise awareness in public rather on an online forum. and i rather do it in india than in australia.

[BC_Broad]

I get what you are trying to say but you dont get what im tryin to say, i rather raise awareness in public rather on an online forum. and i rather do it in india than in australia.

that doesn't make sense. more people will see it on the internet than the amount of people you could possibly meet in a day.

[jatti_down_under]

that doesn't make sense. more people will see it on the internet than the amount of people you could possibly meet in a day.

but i wonder how many of them would actually help out?

Id like to know how much everyone reading this right now help out in some way or the other?

[Khusum]

I get what you are trying to say but you dont get what im tryin to say, i rather raise awareness in public rather on an online forum. and i rather do it in india than in australia.what good would it do if u dont let the rest of the world know? are u ashamed of it? look baani, india IS a 3rd world country. so what?

raising awareness anywhere u can brings hope. it makes people realize what really is out there. and raising awareness outside of india is done all the time... and with successful results, too.

[BC_Broad]

but i wonder how many of them would actually help out?

Id like to know how much everyone reading this right now help out in some way or the other?

dear god, i think my keyboard understands what i'm trying to say here. for a young person, you are very stubborn. try to listen to what others are saying! you don't have to go and help a girl fight genital mutation in africa tomorrow morning...all pooja did was post up some info. to shed some light on things that are going on in other parts of the world. i'm ecstatic that you help out but some people aren't able to do so...just being able to read that gives some women knowledge about what's happening and maybe, if the times, they could help out, too. there is nothing wrong with spreading awareness. the problem is silly, lazy people that say "ah, fuck it" and brush it off. jeeeez you've given me such a headache trying to explain it to you.

[jatti_down_under]

what good would it do if u dont let the rest of the world know? are u ashamed of it? look baani, india IS a 3rd world country. so what?

raising awareness anywhere u can brings hope. it makes people realize what really is out there. and raising awareness outside of india is done all the time... and with successful results, too.

Nope, India is not a third world country, face it, it has progressed and its a fact.

I agree about the raising awareness part but id like to know how many desi's outside actually do help out?

[BC_Broad]

Nope, India is not a third world country, face it, it has progressed and its a fact.

I agree about the raising awareness part but id like to know how many desi's outside actually do help out?

progressing or not...its STILL a developing country. nobody is bashing india...no need for such hardcore patriotism. you're completely missing the issue.

[jatti_down_under]

dear god, i think my keyboard understands what i'm trying to say here. for a young person, you are very stubborn. try to listen to what others are saying! you don't have to go and help a girl fight genital mutation in africa tomorrow morning...all pooja did was post up some info. to shed some light on things that are going on in other parts of the world. i'm ecstatic that you help out but some people aren't able to do so...just being able to read that gives some women knowledge about what's happening and maybe, if the times, they could help out, too. there is nothing wrong with spreading awareness. the problem is silly, lazy people that say "ah, fuck it" and brush it off. jeeeez you've given me such a headache trying to explain it to you.

Dude, I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, but im only asking how much people really do , desi people, outside india, people on this forum, how many actually do something even if it something like donating 50 cents?

[BC_Broad]

Dude, I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, but im only asking how much people really do , desi people, outside india, people on this forum, how many actually do something even if it something like donating 50 cents?

rubh day vastay jaakay soja...seriously, kids these days!!!!

[jafferman]

even if u go to india theres only so much u can do :sarb: are u gonna pick fights wid the wifebeating husbands?

[jatti_down_under]

progressing or not...its STILL a developing country. nobody is bashing india...no need for such hardcore patriotism. you're completely missing the issue.

Developing country but still its not a third world country, if u compare India to third world countries like afganistan then you would realise thats it far from being a third world country but still developing

[jatti_down_under]

rubh day vastay jaakay soja...seriously, kids these days!!!!

first answer my question, how much do u do to help out wives in india?

answer it , i need answers!

[jatti_down_under]

even if u go to india theres only so much u can do :sarb: are u gonna pick fights wid the wifebeating husbands?

oh, you would be surprised at how much you could do, first of all visit india first.

[BC_Broad]

Developing country but still its not a third world country, if u compare India to third world countries like afganistan then you would realise thats it far from being a third world country but still developing

i hope you know that "developing nation" is just a nicer, more PC term for "third world country."

[jatti_down_under]

i hope you know that "developing nation" is just a nicer, more PC term for "third world country."

how long has it been since u visited india?

[jafferman]

oh, you would be surprised at how much you could do, first of all visit india first.
ive been there :sarb:

[Khusum]

Nope, India is not a third world country, face it, it has progressed and its a fact.

I agree about the raising awareness part but id like to know how many desi's outside actually do help out?no. hong kong and malaysia are developing. thailand is developing. india.. by the most part is stricken with poverty. if every 30 seconds someone is dying of starvation & thirst... thenn hunny... its a fucking 3rd world country. time for a reality check. i love india & im a proud indian too but facts are facts.

[jafferman]

i hope you know that "developing nation" is just a nicer, more PC term for "third world country."
and afghanistan isnt even third world its like "fourth world"

[Ironmaan]

Hey you discrace to sikhism.. why do you defend/care for india so much? what has it ever done for you. FACE IT!! whateva YOU do or say is not going to make a difference in this situation. Their is a clear reason behind the high statistics of women being raped and abused in india and im pretty sure the people with at least half a brain know what that is.

[!Azeem!]

thats honestly fucked up....peopel that treat women like that should be shot

[BC_Broad]

first answer my question, how much do u do to help out wives in india?

answer it , i need answers!

you're a cocky little girl...you're still young so its still fixable. how many broken homes have you fixed? how many homes have you found for babies abandoned on the side of the roads? how many men have you stood up against after they nearly killed their brides? i'm sure you donate all of your kiddie allowance to these women but get it through your bloody head...unless you're a fucking millionaire you can't even put a dent in the amount of funds that are needed. SO, all some people can do is spread the awareness so they can start fundraisers.

i think you're fucking possessed and i can't believe i'm arguing with a 14 year old. good night, jesus.

[jafferman]

i got nothing against india too, i am half indian :p

[jatti_down_under]

no. hong kong and malaysia are developing. thailand is developing. india.. by the most part is stricken with poverty. if every 30 seconds someone is dying of starvation & thirst... thenn hunny... its a fucking 3rd world country. time for a reality check. i love india & im a proud indian too but facts are facts.

haha, do you know that china is still developing but most of its areas are stricken with poverty, many new born girls are being given up but hey its not a third world country right?

[jafferman]

you're a cocky little girl...you're still young so its still fixable. how many broken homes have you fixed? how many homes have you found for babies abandoned on the side of the roads? how many men have you stood up against after they nearly killed their brides? i'm sure you donate all of your kiddie allowance to these women but get it through your bloody head...unless you're a fucking millionaire you can't even put a dent in the amount of funds that are needed. SO, all some people can do is spread the awareness so they can start fundraisers.

i think you're fucking possessed and i can't believe i'm arguing with a 14 year old. good night, jesus.
lol, but even if ur a millionaire that still wont even put ne thing close to a dent to help :(

[jatti_down_under]

Hey you discrace to sikhism.. why do you defend/care for india so much? what has it ever done for you. FACE IT!! whateva YOU do or say is not going to make a difference in this situation. Their is a clear reason behind the high statistics of women being raped and abused in india and im pretty sure the people with at least half a brain know what that is.

It has done alot for me, maybe coz i grew up there and its where i come from.

[BC_Broad]

lastly, stop asking us what we've done. most of us are college/university students paying out own way and even helping out our parents at home. when you graduate high school....in 10 years...you'll realize what we go through and you'll stop asking how much we donate or how much we visit. you still have your diapers on...how can you argue with us about these types of things?

[jafferman]

haha, do you know that china is still developing but most of its areas are stricken with poverty, many new born girls are being given up but hey its not a third world country right?
its called a population problem :|, china is dealing wid it but india is growing so rapidly its gonna be in even worse condition down the road unless they do something bout it :neutral:

[BC_Broad]

haha, do you know that china is still developing but most of its areas are stricken with poverty, many new born girls are being given up but hey its not a third world country right?

why are you telling us that? why don't you go help the girls?

[jatti_down_under]

you're a cocky little girl...you're still young so its still fixable. how many broken homes have you fixed? how many homes have you found for babies abandoned on the side of the roads? how many men have you stood up against after they nearly killed their brides? i'm sure you donate all of your kiddie allowance to these women but get it through your bloody head...unless you're a fucking millionaire you can't even put a dent in the amount of funds that are needed. SO, all some people can do is spread the awareness so they can start fundraisers.

i think you're fucking possessed and i can't believe i'm arguing with a 14 year old. good night, jesus.

I am not saying that i have done alot, i am not boasting about what 'I' have done, i just want to know how many desi's are helping out? For gods sake, try to understand the only way you could change me is by giving me some answers.

[jatti_down_under]

its called a population problem :|, china is dealing wid it but india is growing so rapidly its gonna be in even worse condition down the road unless they do something bout it :neutral:

You think people in india arent tryin to do something? :neutral:

[Ironmaan]

Compare the market economy from a financial approach of Hong Kong to dehli or whateva the hell the major eco city of india is THAN TALK..

[jafferman]

You think people in india arent tryin to do something? :neutral:
why is every mother having like 203030 kids :neutral:

[jatti_down_under]

lastly, stop asking us what we've done. most of us are college/university students paying out own way and even helping out our parents at home. when you graduate high school....in 10 years...you'll realize what we go through and you'll stop asking how much we donate or how much we visit. you still have your diapers on...how can you argue with us about these types of things?

I know that you spend money on expensive cosmetics and on shoes, i know for a fact that you use lancome juicy tubes which are worth 40 dollars over here and my mum even wont but those for herself, i know that you wanna raise awareness but you have got to set an example.

[Sikh4Lyfe]

this might quell the splurging population growth.

I KID, morons.

[Khusum]

I am not saying that i have done alot, i am not boasting about what 'I' have done, i just want to know how many desi's are helping out? For gods sake, try to understand the only way you could change me is by giving me some answers.jesus christ! are u dense? the point is raising awareness for the sake of humanity! its not about what each one of us did for whoever. :rolleyes:

[jatti_down_under]

why is every mother having like 203030 kids :neutral:

Why do you think that every mother in india is having 203030 kids and noone is doing anything about it but just raising awareness?

[jatti_down_under]

jesus christ! are u dense? the point is raising awareness for the sake of humanity! its not about what each one of us did for whoever. :rolleyes:

raising awareness is not gonna change the situation, cmon, you hve to do something, at the end of the day it comes down to what you have done.

[Sikh4Lyfe]

raising awareness is not gonna change the situation, cmon, you hve to do something, at the end of the day it comes down to what you have done.

silly little girl.

[Ironmaan]

jatti down under- ur about as bright as michael jordans ass crack.

[jafferman]

Why do you think that every mother in india is having 203030 kids and noone is doing anything about it but just raising awareness?
well what ever there doing its not enough lol i mean its soon gonna over take china as the highest populated country :neutral:

[Sikh4Lyfe]

jatti down under- ur about as bright as michael jordans ass crack.

would have been funnier to say Wesley Snipes ass crack cuz he is the darkest ***** on the planet, tho that works.

[jatti_down_under]

well what ever there doing its not enough lol i mean its soon gonna over take china as the highest populated country :neutral:

why is it not enough? coz maybe the rich ass desi's outside india are doing nothing.

[Khusum]

raising awareness is not gonna change the situation, cmon, you hve to do something, at the end of the day it comes down to what you have done.the situation wont & cant change overnight, luv. it takes time. but denial about reality will not help it either. the more people know, the better perspective they are gonna get. how do u think the tsunami relief helped anyways? its by media coverage.

[jafferman]

would have been funnier to say Wesley Snipes ass crack cuz he is the darkest ***** on the planet, tho that works.
hahahahahahha :p

[jatti_down_under]

jatti down under- ur about as bright as michael jordans ass crack.

haha, its ok, really do you care about what im saying?

[jafferman]

why is it not enough? coz maybe the rich ass desi's outside india are doing nothing.
well they wouldnt be rich ne more if they did something would they :neutral:

[jafferman]

the situation wont & cant change overnight, luv. it takes time. but denial about reality will not help it either. the more people know, the better perspective they are gonna get. how do u think the tsunami relief helped anyways? its by media coverage.
good example :yes:

[jatti_down_under]

the situation wont & cant change overnight, luv. it takes time. but denial about reality will not help it either. the more people know, the better perspective they are gonna get. how do u think the tsunami relief helped anyways? its by media coverage.

I know that, im not saying that raising awareness about it wrong and why do you people think im in denial about this, i know it goes on, but i am asking a simple question, how much do people actually do about it? Hadh hai dont u understand a simple question, just gimme a god damn answer.

[jatti_down_under]

well they wouldnt be rich ne more if they did something would they :neutral:

Well if they think money is more important than people's lives, then so be it.

[jafferman]

Well if they think money is more important than people's lives, then so be it.
money makes the world go round nnn people are greedy :p

[methodman535]

How do these crime stats compare with the crime stats of Pakistan, UK, USA and any other countries if anyone knows?

[sharpeyes]

Crimes against women doesnt take place because of poverty. It happens everywhere, not just in India. The instigater could be a general "perversity" gene or something in men.
I know for a fact poverty isnt a factor. Check out my thread : http://forums.ratedesi.com/showthread.php?t=55521
Ull know what Im talking about.

Perhaps its because of the conservative culture we live in. Men cant express their sexuallity openly, so they turn to rape & molesting and we become victims. It is unfortunate but people in India are not willing to talk about sex and related issues.
Dowry deaths/abuse happen when the new wife is not able to up-keep the status of they family they marry into. Mostly happens in rich & educated families :mad: .

In Pakistan, honor killing are very common and to make matters worse, many of these crimes go unreported. Many women are killed to keep "honor".
These crimes are rampant in south asia & one should do what they can to stop it. The next victim could be someone you love....

[jatti_down_under]

money makes the world go round

but it doesnt stop the rapes and sati.

[Sikh4Lyfe]

question: What are YOU doing about it and WHY do you care what others do?

[jafferman]

question: What are YOU doing about it and WHY do you care what others do?
yea i would like to know also :sarb: why do u care so much that bc_broad spends like 40 bucks on make up etc :sarb:

[jatti_down_under]

question: What are YOU doing about it and WHY do you care what others do?

Read the whole thread, i told verin what i did when i was in india and i asked her if she knew about the hunger project which my family and friends support and i care about what others do coz they have to set an example for others to follow since according to them im a 'kid'

[Sikh4Lyfe]

Read the whole thread, i told verin what i did when i was in india and i asked her if she knew about the hunger project which my family and friends support and i care about what others do coz they have to set an example for others to follow since according to them im a 'kid'

why are you judging someone on something and someone you know FUCK ALL about. You sound like an ass really. You act like your getting all high and mighty for who? Those raped victims? Only god judges someone, not yourself young lady, Your job is to be the best person you can be, you cant stuff your views and shit down someones throat and expect them to take it down in one gulp. People do things their own way, the more you harp on this the more your making yourself bigheaded and quite silly.

[jatti_down_under]

why are you judging someone on something and someone you know FUCK ALL about. You sound like an ass really. You act like your getting all high and mighty for who? Those raped victims? Only god judges someone, not yourself young lady, Your job is to be the best person you can be, you cant stuff your views and shit down someones throat and expect them to take it down in one gulp. People do things their own way, the more you harp on this the more your making yourself bigheaded and quite silly.

haha, when did i boast? i just asked a simple question and these people pounced on me like i dunno what, oh the irony.

[jafferman]

haha, when did i boast? i just asked a simple question and these people pounced on me like i dunno what, oh the irony.
about the hunger project which my family and friends support and i care about

[Sikh4Lyfe]

haha, when did i boast? i just asked a simple question and these people pounced on me like i dunno what, oh the irony.

I dont want to read most of the useless babble but this will do:

"...hunger project which my family and friends support and i care about what others do coz they have to set an example for others to follow since according to them im a 'kid'"

Stop judging people and try to learn how to express your views in a better and more coherent manner than saying something like: "YOU SPEND $50 ON ASS CREAM, WHY DONT YOU SUPPORT BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BITCH MOAN GAH GAH"

IT JUST might help people in responding in a much "nicer" and friendlier way.

[Sikh4Lyfe]

about the hunger project which my family and friends support and i care about

u and me are like LINKED :eek:

[jafferman]

u and me are like LINKED :eek:
haha great minds think alike :eek:

[Khusum]

How do these crime stats compare with the crime stats of Pakistan, UK, USA and any other countries if anyone knows?im sure some sociology major will enlighten us with an official statistcs chart... but its more pertinent that we see this as a cultural phenomena rather than a statistical one.

Crimes against women doesnt take place because of poverty. It happens everywhere, not just in India. The instigater could be a general "perversity" gene or something in men.
I know for a fact poverty isnt a factor. Check out my thread : http://forums.ratedesi.com/showthread.php?t=55521
Ull know what Im talking about.

Perhaps its because of the conservative culture we live in. Men cant express their sexuallity openly, so they turn to rape & molesting and we become victims. It is unfortunate but people in India are not willing to talk about sex and related issues.
Dowry deaths/abuse happen when the new wife is not able to up-keep the status of they family they marry into. Mostly happens in rich & educated families :mad: .

In Pakistan, honor killing are very common and to make matters worse, many of these crimes go unreported. Many women are killed to keep "honor".
These crimes are rampant in south asia & one should do what they can to stop it. The next victim could be someone you love....honor killings are so common in the UK. it less common here in the US but when i use to live in fremont (norcal town with a HUGE desi population), there was an 'honor' killing by a desi dad. he shot his daughter in the heart four times for dating a guy from another religion. it was sad. i sorta kinda knew the girl. she was a coupla years older than me & it was when i was in high school.

[Sikh4Lyfe]

dont tell me missy elliot is writing an essay :o

[jafferman]

dont tell me missy elliot is writing an essay :o
lol im waitin for dis too lol

[jatti_down_under]

I dont want to read most of the useless babble but this will do:

"...hunger project which my family and friends support and i care about what others do coz they have to set an example for others to follow since according to them im a 'kid'"

Stop judging people and try to learn how to express your views in a better and more coherent manner than saying something like: "YOU SPEND $50 ON ASS CREAM, WHY DONT YOU SUPPORT BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BITCH MOAN GAH GAH"

IT JUST might help people in responding in a much "nicer" and friendlier way.

Im gonna express my feelings just the way i want to, and i resorted to tellin her about the way she spends on make up because thats how i feel, dont get all touchy about it coz i know she is your good friends outside of rd as well and anyways it doesnt really matter to me how posters on this site respond coz i dont have to prove myself to anyone.

[Sikh4Lyfe]

Im gonna express my feelings just the way i want to, and i resorted to tellin her about the way she spends on make up because thats how i feel, dont get all touchy about it coz i know she is your good friends outside of rd as well and anyways it doesnt really matter to me how posters on this site respond coz i dont have to prove myself to anyone.

and what do they have to prove to you?

[jatti_down_under]

and what do they have to prove to you?

They have to stop pouncing on me because of my views and if they dont have to prove themselves to me then they should stop caring about what i think right?

[Sikh4Lyfe]

They have to stop puncing on me because of my views and if they dont have to prove themselves to me then they should stop replying.

MY...GOD....GIRL....

ITS LIKE TALKING TO A BRICK WALL, GOOD DEFENSE COMMANDER COOTCH.

I suggest you read your posts again, you might find somethings u didnt realize when you didnt read them over.

*i editted my shitty ass english skills*

[jatti_down_under]

MY...GOD....GIRL....

ITS LIKE TALKING TO A BRICK WALL, GOOD DEFENSE COMMANDER COOTCH.

I suggest you read this post, not cuz I said, just to review what YOU said, you might find a few things interesting.

first of all i stated what i think, cmon im here to express my views right? even if i am a 15 yr old and if people cant accept that then maybe they should fuck off.

At the end of the day, life moves on.

[MissDaMeena]

......

but derez more dan 1 biillion pplz. compare dat to the US.

[MissDaMeena]

Well if they think money is more important than people's lives, then so be it.
mebbe u shud donate $20/mo to feed homelezz rather den pay for internet :rolleyes:

[Sikh4Lyfe]

first of all i stated what i think, cmon im here to express my views right? even if i am a 15 yr old and if people cant accept that then maybe they should fuck off.

At the end of the day, life moves on.

just dont think its about age, sometimes, and maybe you will realize this when you get older, the way you express your views makes a whole lot of difference. Like me, im almost positive I can sell someone the Nazi ideals, if you want to be heard and have a GROWNUP conversation with, like a DEBATE :o, practice on expressing your views in a BETTER way. Maybe not for a lowly internet site compounded with countless bottom feeders but for your educational purposes later on in life.

[Sikh4Lyfe]

but derez more dan 1 biillion pplz. compare dat to the US.

i dont think u got what she meant my dear :)

[jatti_down_under]

just dont think its about age, sometimes, and maybe you will realize this when you get older, the way you express your views makes a whole lot of difference. Like me, im almost positive I can sell someone the Nazi ideals, if you want to be heard and have a GROWNUP conversation with, like a DEBATE :o, practice on expressing your views in a BETTER way. Maybe not for a lowly internet site compounded with countless bottom feeders but for your educational purposes later on in life.

Maybe i will.

[jatti_down_under]

mebbe u shud donate $20/mo to feed homelezz rather den pay for internet :rolleyes:


maybe you should do the same.

[MissDaMeena]

i dont think u got what she meant my dear :)
ya i didn read it :neutral:

[MissDaMeena]

maybe you should do the same.
na im materialistic n shallo

[jatti_down_under]

na im materialistic n shallo

Yes, yes, we know, its allright, happens.

[BC_Broad]

I know that you spend money on expensive cosmetics and on shoes, i know for a fact that you use lancome juicy tubes which are worth 40 dollars over here and my mum even wont but those for herself, i know that you wanna raise awareness but you have got to set an example.


i'm not gonna have some little kid tell me what i can and can't buy. everything and anything i own was and is paid for by me. i've been working since the age of 13 and know very well the value of a dollar so i can spend it on whatever i'd like. i also have enough to donate so do_not try to sit there and question me and what i do to help out. i've started a handful of famine projects and fundraisers, i volunteer to help clothe and make-over prostitutes and homeless women so they can get jobs, i've been volunteering at food banks and battered women shelters since i was 15 and now i counsel troubled, teenage girls for free. so, before you try and throw the spoiled princess rebuttal at me...have a little respect.

[Lounge Act]

i'm not gonna have some little kid tell me what i can and can't buy. everything and anything i own was and is paid for by me. i've been working since the age of 13 and know very well the value of a dollar so i can spend it on whatever i'd like. i also have enough to donate so do_not try to sit there and question me and what i do to help out. i've started a handful of famine projects and fundraisers, i volunteer to help clothe and make-over prostitutes and homeless women so they can get jobs, i've been volunteering at food banks and battered women shelters since i was 15 and now i counsel troubled, teenage girls for free. so, before you try and throw the spoiled princess rebuttal at me...have a little respect.


God bless you Broad...

[Khusum]

but derez more dan 1 biillion pplz. compare dat to the US.and compare the poverty status of india to the US. this is not a comparrison to apples & oranges. its a reflection on a culture.

[Sweet_LiL_Hunnie]

yesterday i rented this movie called maya

http://www.hollywoodvideo.com/images/boxart/dvd/119052.gif

it was soo sad it tells u on the back its about a 12 yr old girl go through a sick ritual after she gets her period, and the ritual was far more sick than what i assumed it was going to be...it was a very realistic movie kinda like a chandini bar and was very upsetting to see i felt sooo bad for her

then at the enbd of the movie it tells you about 5,000-15,000 girls get this done every yr in india, its against the law to do it but village ppl still continue this practice in certain areas

also i was listening to the world news on the radio n they told a story of a pakistani woman in court trying to convict these men of raping her, in jher village an elder let 40 men or more rape her bc she did something wrong, i dunno what she did but 40 men is disgusting and horrifying...the paki judge threw the case out bc there wasn't any so called evidence, and then the american says...pakistani government has claimed and promise to help women more and do them justice but this just shows that it was just talk...it was all talk. i felt soo bad hearing that and just disgusted

the arab world is full of stuff happening like this with their servants from thailand or the phillipines its disgusting and then on top of that the men rape little girls on the side

i see this stuff n it makes me truly wonder why god makes women punish sooooooooo much.

[Sweet_LiL_Hunnie]

i'm not gonna have some little kid tell me what i can and can't buy. everything and anything i own was and is paid for by me. i've been working since the age of 13 and know very well the value of a dollar so i can spend it on whatever i'd like. i also have enough to donate so do_not try to sit there and question me and what i do to help out. i've started a handful of famine projects and fundraisers, i volunteer to help clothe and make-over prostitutes and homeless women so they can get jobs, i've been volunteering at food banks and battered women shelters since i was 15 and now i counsel troubled, teenage girls for free. so, before you try and throw the spoiled princess rebuttal at me...have a little respect.


this was one of the best post i've ever read on here take a bow hun :) u deserve it for all the good work you have been doing! mashallah! :clap:

[jafferman]

i'm not gonna have some little kid tell me what i can and can't buy. everything and anything i own was and is paid for by me. i've been working since the age of 13 and know very well the value of a dollar so i can spend it on whatever i'd like. i also have enough to donate so do_not try to sit there and question me and what i do to help out. i've started a handful of famine projects and fundraisers, i volunteer to help clothe and make-over prostitutes and homeless women so they can get jobs, i've been volunteering at food banks and battered women shelters since i was 15 and now i counsel troubled, teenage girls for free. so, before you try and throw the spoiled princess rebuttal at me...have a little respect.

:bowdown:

[Irreligious Left]

:yes:

thats how it should be.. respect women.. your mother is one, obviously.

and we`ll respect you back.

Personally killing a suspected rapist? That's just a lot of paternalistic bullshit, and if I were a woman I'd be insulted at the notion. We have laws that take care of this.

[thaiz]

Sometimes is so sad to be a woman :(

[KBW77]

Vat...Bhindia haz become a raping shooperpavar as well...Oh Bhagwan....lolz

On a serious note....really sad situation. I think rapists should be castrated one PROVEN guilty in a court of law. Alternatively depending on the violence and severity of the crime they cam be killed as well.

However I see the larger problem as still prevalent view of women as chattel. This needs to change. I personally have no respect for a man who raises his hand or his voice against the mother kind. It is the epitome of cowardice...although some men think it is somehow macho...and there are also idiot girls who encourage it as "bad boy" attitude.

[Sweet_LiL_Hunnie]

in the movie maya i just saw i'll ruin it for yall if you dont wanna rent it from hollywood video...

the ritual that i assumed would be umm fixing her down there like a lotta muslim tribal ppl do, instead 4 old ass pandits had their way with her, it was sooo SAD! n i cant understand how a desi culture rthat holds virginity and purity sooo high could really let this happen, like in the movie they believed the pandit was god reincarnated....someone needs to tell them that NO that's not right, these are just holy men that study the word of god n try to live by it more or i dunno...but yah

also the pandit in our family is some different kinda hindu sect than us and its a sect where the ppl dont believe in sex or maybe its just pandits hmm not too sure ill go look him up online and find out later

but ya in houston when i was younger maybe 95 ish there was a desi pandit/more spiritual healer guy that would see this divorced lady and her mom and eventually i think what happened was he raped her claiming to spiritually cleanse her somehow or something and he got in MADD shit for it, worse thing was everyone in town found out the name of the family and all the muslim ppl just got something mroe to hate on hindus for,.

maybe thats a first step india should take, preventing the rape of children

[BC_Broad]

my mom saw maya and told me to watch it..i'm gonna rent it tomorrow night...thanks.

[jatti_down_under]

i'm not gonna have some little kid tell me what i can and can't buy. everything and anything i own was and is paid for by me. i've been working since the age of 13 and know very well the value of a dollar so i can spend it on whatever i'd like. i also have enough to donate so do_not try to sit there and question me and what i do to help out. i've started a handful of famine projects and fundraisers, i volunteer to help clothe and make-over prostitutes and homeless women so they can get jobs, i've been volunteering at food banks and battered women shelters since i was 15 and now i counsel troubled, teenage girls for free. so, before you try and throw the spoiled princess rebuttal at me...have a little respect.

haha, so it took so long for you to answer my question and then you say im thick, gold help us.

[BC_Broad]

haha, so it took so long for you to answer my question and then you say im thick, gold help us.

i answered this post lastnight, moron. at first i didn't find the need to explain myself but thanks to your dense head, i thought i would to shut you up. you have seriously managed to fuck up a perfectly good thread with your bullshit about god knows what. you just learned how to clean your ass yesterday...learn how to talk to people that are older and who have obviously been through and done a lot more than you have.

[jatti_down_under]

i answered this post lastnight, moron. at first i didn't find the need to explain myself but thanks to your dense head, i thought i would to shut you up. you have seriously managed to fuck up a perfectly good thread with your bullshit about god knows what. you just learned how to clean your ass yesterday...learn how to talk to people that are older and who have obviously been through and done a lot more than you have.

haha, i dont browse the forums all night and all day, i just came online and checked this thread and also it was 50 % your fault if you were so annoyed by me, then y ou could have just shut up. The day i will respect you is the day you learn how to respect me and stop calling me by names even if you are like 10 years older than me, so you can fuck off for all i care, coz your ohh im so tough attitude doesnt have any affect on me.

*waits for the flaming from her many lovers*

[BC_Broad]

haha, i dont browse the forums all night and all day, i just came online and checked this thread and also it was 50 % your fault if you were so annoyed by me, then y ou could have just shut up. The day i will respect you is the day you learn how to respect me and stop calling me by names even if you are like 10 years older than me, so you can fuck off for all i care, coz your ohh im so tough attitude doesnt have any affect on me.

*waits for the flaming from her many lovers*

if you don't browse day and night then why did you ask why it took me so long to reply? this thread wasn't even my fault...you just had to be miss high and might acting like you know so much. well, kiddo, you don't. if it you go back and read the thread you'll notice that i wasn't the only one that felt that you were wrong so that excuse is weak. you know i thought you were a good kid but i guess you're just an arrogant little brat who really needs to be put in her place....and you have a lot of time left in your life for that to happen. "waits for flames from her many lovers".... hmm is someone a little bitter? have a nice life, bachi.

[desi_balla63]

i answered this post lastnight, moron. at first i didn't find the need to explain myself but thanks to your dense head, i thought i would to shut you up. you have seriously managed to fuck up a perfectly good thread with your bullshit about god knows what. you just learned how to clean your ass yesterday...learn how to talk to people that are older and who have obviously been through and done a lot more than you have.
Just learned how to clean her ass yesterday?

:?

[jatti_down_under]

if you don't browse day and night then why did you ask why it took me so long to reply? this thread wasn't even my fault...you just had to be miss high and might acting like you know so much. well, kiddo, you don't. if it you go back and read the thread you'll notice that i wasn't the only one that felt that you were wrong so that excuse is weak. you know i thought you were a good kid but i guess you're just an arrogant little brat who really needs to be put in her place....and you have a lot of time left in your life for that to happen. "waits for flames from her many lovers".... hmm is someone a little bitter? have a nice life, bachi.

I asked you that coz maybe i asked a question long before and i kept on saying that i need an answer but you kept on replying with some bullshit saying im arrogant. I dont really care about what you think about me, meh, doesnt make a diffrence, coz life moves on beyond the forums.

[BC_Broad]

I asked you that coz maybe i asked a question long before and i kept on saying that i need an answer but you kept on replying with some bullshit saying im arrogant. I dont really care about what you think about me, meh, doesnt make a diffrence, coz life moves on beyond the forums.

to what? the monkey bars?

[jatti_down_under]

to what? the monkey bars?

No but definately beyond the Chanel shop in the mall.

[BC_Broad]

No but definately beyond the Chanel shop in the mall.

chanel doesn't have a shop in the mall.

[jatti_down_under]

chanel doesn't have a shop in the mall.

oh sorry, yeah, how could i doubt your knowledge about chanel?

[ektubaby]

:no: stop.

[BC_Broad]

oh sorry, yeah, how could i doubt your knowledge about chanel?

so young...so bitter.

[desi_balla63]

so young...so bitter.
Verin

She just asked something. What's the point in patronizing her over age?

[jatti_down_under]

so young...so bitter.

Maybe i just got tired of you calling me a fuckin moron and a fuking 13 yr old and a fucking bachi.

[ektubaby]

Maybe i just got tired of you calling me a fuckin moron and a fuking 13 yr old and a fucking bachi.
baani :kiss:

u can only be MY bachi :love:
otherwise u got a lot of maturity goin for u

[jatti_down_under]

baani :kiss:

u can only be MY bachi :love:
otherwise u got a lot of maturity goin for u

yeah but still would you call me fucking moron and just asumme stuff when im asking you a simple question.

[BC_Broad]

Verin

She just asked something. What's the point in patronizing her over age?

she just asked something? did you read the thread or go straight to the drama? she wasn't asking in a genuine way...she was throwing it in our face that we don't do anything and wanted us all to look like morons and her mother theresa because she started some project? this whole thread was about raising awareness and all she did was bitch and moan about the lack of action and how desis don't do anything but discuss. that's pretty pathetic...anyone that has done any form of charity or fought for a cause knows that awareness is the most important part. how can you say i'm patronizing her for her age when her posts do a great job of showing it anyways?

[BC_Broad]

Maybe i just got tired of you calling me a fuckin moron and a fuking 13 yr old and a fucking bachi.

those remarks came AFTER you refused to see anyone else's point of view.

[BC_Broad]

baani :kiss:

u can only be MY bachi :love:
otherwise u got a lot of maturity goin for u

maybe you can get through to your e-bachi then.

[ektubaby]

yeah but still would you call me fucking moron and just asumme stuff when im asking you a simple question.
no, u know how much i respect ur opinion. u know just how much you've done for me.

[ektubaby]

maybe you can get through to your e-bachi then.
shes not my e-bachi
shes my real bachi :love:

[desi_balla63]

she just asked something? did you read the thread or go straight to the drama? she wasn't asking in a genuine way...she was throwing it in our face that we don't do anything and wanted us all to look like morons and her mother theresa because she started some project? this whole thread was about raising awareness and all she did was bitch and moan about the lack of action and how desis don't do anything but discuss. that's pretty pathetic...anyone that has done any form of charity or fought for a cause knows that awareness is the most important part. how can you say i'm patronizing her for her age when her posts do a great job of showing it anyways?

1) Since you despise her assumptions so much, pay attention to your own. I DID read the whole thread, and that's WHY I asked why you were focusing on her age. Make your points without talking how she's a kid, she's pretty mature if you ask me.

2) Throwed it in your face? By asking 'what are you doing for the wives in India' or whatever her first point was that pissed you off? Gimme' a break, you could avoided all this drama ... but I guess your'e done with school and have a little time for drama in your life. Time pass? Get over it, Verin.

3) Again, with her age. Let it go.

[BC_Broad]

yeah but still would you call me fucking moron and just asumme stuff when im asking you a simple question.

bas kar, baani...you know you weren't asking a simple question. you just wanted us to say "no, baani, we haven't done anything but you have so i guess you're right." you know you didn't mean it.

[ektubaby]

bas kar, baani...you know you weren't asking a simple question. you just wanted us to say "no, baani, we haven't done anything but you have so i guess you're right." you know you didn't mean it.
enough verin.

[BC_Broad]

1) Since you despise her assumptions so much, pay attention to your own. I DID read the whole thread, and that's WHY I asked why you were focusing on her age. Make your points without talking how she's a kid, she's pretty mature if you ask me.

2) Throwed it in your face? By asking 'what are you doing for the wives in India' or whatever her first point was that pissed you off? Gimme' a break, you could avoided all this drama ... but I guess your'e done with school and have a little time for drama in your life. Time pass? Get over it, Verin.

3) Again, with her age. Let it go.

holy shit, get off your high horse.

[jatti_down_under]

those remarks came AFTER you refused to see anyone else's point of view.

I understood what you guys said, but i just asked a simple question? and u just pounced on me.

[Khusum]

well this sux. i thought we'd all discuss women's emancipation in india. instead this turned out into an old fashioned pre-menstrual flame war.

ladies... we NEED to watch more oprah.

[desi_balla63]

holy shit, get off your high horse.
Look who's talking.

[BC_Broad]

enough verin.

ekta, why are you telling me enough? am i supposed to sit here and just read three other people say stuff? this didn't even involve you.

[chunky]

Maybe i just got tired of you calling me a fuckin moron and a fuking 13 yr old and a fucking bachi.

you're the one that started with the holier than thou attitude.

sure, you asked what everyone else was doing, but what you were really doing was putting down khusum for posting this thread. Then you got into it with verin b/c you feel that awareness is not helpful to the problem.

The connection that you failed to make is that awareness is what prompts people to do something to help. You talk so lowly of all the "rich ass desis" living outside india who don't do shit - well maybe if they were more fully AWARE they would do shit. making sense now? I don't understand why you couldn't understand that point.

It's great that you've done something to help the hunger situation, but why on earth are you haranguing people who are also concerned? Shouldn't you also be expressing your concern?

Instead of berating people, perhaps you should try to enoucrage them to do something. You'll get more favorable results that way.

[desi_balla63]

well this sux. i thought we'd all discuss women's emancipation in india. instead this turned out into an old fashioned pre-menstrual flame war.

ladies... we NEED to watch more oprah.
Heh, I got much love for you Poojah.

I agree, we should help out.

[jatti_down_under]

bas kar, baani...you know you weren't asking a simple question. you just wanted us to say "no, baani, we haven't done anything but you have so i guess you're right." you know you didn't mean it.

Maybe if u said made that post before i would be like wow verin thats pretty cool, maybe, coz i have been taught to respect elders, but hey, i expect an answer when i ask a question, not someone telling me that im a fucking moron.

[chunky]

I understood what you guys said, but i just asked a simple question? and u just pounced on me.

it was the way in which you presented the question. Full of negativity. No matter how you slice it, it was the negative undertones of your query that prompted the less than gracious replies.

[ektubaby]

ekta, why are you telling me enough? am i supposed to sit here and just read three other people say stuff? this didn't even involve you.
it actually does.
just be the older person and "maturely" end the conversation?

[BC_Broad]

Look who's talking.

please, aniq...save it for another thread. whatever shit you have with me is outta my hands. are you trying to pick a fight with me over something else? might as well come clean about it now.

[Khusum]

anyways... verin has a valid point. i mean really... the whole thread was designed to raise awareness on women's issues in 3rd world nations.

and aniq... why was this moved to useless junk & flames?

[desi_balla63]

anyways... verin has a valid point. i mean really... the whole thread was designed to raise awareness on women's issues in 3rd world nations.

and aniq... why was this moved to useless junk & flames?
Don't know, not I.

Ask your partner in crime. ;)

[BC_Broad]

it actually does.
just be the older person and "maturely" end the conversation?

peace out.

[desi_balla63]

please, aniq...save it for another thread. whatever shit you have with me is outta my hands. are you trying to pick a fight with me over something else? might as well come clean about it now.
Like?

I have no bone to pick. Baani's a good friend, you pointlessly bitched her out. That is all.

[Khusum]

Heh, I got much love for you Poojah.

I agree, we should help out.:cuddle:

in that case... lets keep the peace by keeping this one in useless junk. eventually... people will stop posting. :lol:

[jatti_down_under]

you're the one that started with the holier than thou attitude.

sure, you asked what everyone else was doing, but what you were really doing was putting down khusum for posting this thread. Then you got into it with verin b/c you feel that awareness is not helpful to the problem.

The connection that you failed to make is that awareness is what prompts people to do something to help. You talk so lowly of all the "rich ass desis" living outside india who don't do shit - well maybe if they were more fully AWARE they would do shit. making sense now? I don't understand why you couldn't understand that point.

It's great that you've done something to help the hunger situation, but why on earth are you haranguing people who are also concerned? Shouldn't you also be expressing your concern?

Instead of berating people, perhaps you should try to enoucrage them to do something. You'll get more favorable results that way.

Really ive tried to express my concern and try to express my love for my country but then what can you do when you get stuff like " why are you being so over patriotic, what has the country ever done for you?

[ektubaby]

peace out.
thank u.

[BC_Broad]

anyways... verin has a valid point. i mean really... the whole thread was designed to raise awareness on women's issues in 3rd world nations.

and aniq... why was this moved to useless junk & flames?

because the whole meaning of this thread was lost and turned into a stupid fight. i'm sorry i moved it pooja but it went down hill from page 3.

[desi_balla63]

:cuddle:

in that case... lets keep the peace by keeping this one in useless junk. eventually... people will stop posting. :lol:
I know a few other ways we can keep the peace. :eyebrow:

[BC_Broad]

thank u.

oh you're so very welcome, ekta. anything i can do to make you happy.

[jatti_down_under]

it was the way in which you presented the question. Full of negativity. No matter how you slice it, it was the negative undertones of your query that prompted the less than gracious replies.

wheter it was full of negativity, it was a question, and the only way they could change my opinion is with providing me with an answer and maybe i would still have the respect i used to have for verin.

[Khusum]

I know a few other ways we can keep the peace. :eyebrow:should we post the cybersex MSN sessions we've had this last christmas? :twisted:

bring out the achar... ill provide teh whip. :p

[desi_balla63]

oh you're so very welcome, ekta. anything i can do to make you happy.
^see. She's not really a bad person.

[desi_balla63]

should we post the cybersex MSN sessions we've had this last christmas? :twisted:

bring out the achar... ill provide teh whip. :p
:shock:

WHAT DID I TELL YOU ABOUT KEEPING PRIVATE CONVO'S PRIVATE!!! :no:

[Khusum]

because the whole meaning of this thread was lost and turned into a stupid fight. i'm sorry i moved it pooja but it went down hill from page 3.its okay sweety. at least this thread had a better longevity than those ass & boob threads that people (as in MEN) always do.

[ektubaby]

:?

and still counting..

[chunky]

Really ive tried to express my concern and try to express my love for my country but then what can you do when you get stuff like " why are you being so over patriotic, what has the country ever done for you?

You started out negatively. Perhaps you thought that this thread was a stab at india, kind of a "omg, look at how those idiots rape their own women etc etc etc." Maybe that is why you took so poorly to this thread - you perhaps thought it was kind of like a tabloid sensationalizing the news.

If you looked at the replies though, I think it was clear that this thread was an attempt to bring about some discussion about the plight of women in india, NOT a stab at indian culture.

Your initial expressions were not of love for your country, rather you were scoffing at this thread & copping a superiority complex with the people posting in it. That is why you got the replies you did. If you want to bring about a positive response, present your ideas in a positive manner, otherwise be prepared for the onslaught.

The comments about your blind patriotisim were related to the fact that you are in denial about india being a 3rd world country. Before you start, I have been to india & bangladesh within the last year. Perhaps what you need is a clarification on what 3rd world really is. India is most def. third world - it's a classification that has to do with the type of economy, poverty level, and political influence a country has. Inida's economy is becoming more industrialized, but India's economy is mostly based on agriculture ,even with the boom in tech industries. Nothing wrong with being patriotic, but saying that india is not 3rd world is is fallacy. There are very few fully developed countries, most of the world IS third world.

[chunky]

wheter it was full of negativity, it was a question, and the only way they could change my opinion is with providing me with an answer and maybe i would still have the respect i used to have for verin.

there you go again with the attitude. You repeatedly say that you get what Verin was saying, but you were constantly disagreeing with her & purusing your assumption that you were the only one that's done anything.

Essentially, if I were in the same spot, I would have been just as insulted as Verin due to your assumption that I had done nothing when in fact a large part of my life was based around helping people from all walks of life.

You keep saying that you were asking a simple question - but you had to have known that implicit to your question was the assumption that Verin had done nothing. Your attacking of her shopping habits is further proof that you were looking to take shots at her character. Your question is not as simple and innocent as you'd have us believe.

Verin called you out on it, you got pissed, and here we are.

[zimmy24]

I know whats going on there but i feel desi's outside india are so ignorant and all this news falls on deaf ears and this is true to some extent. Then they complain about their culture, if they come to look at it, they have nothing to complain about.

i wasnt aware it was that bad

thanks khusum :dance3:

[ii_khushi86_ii]

Personally killing a suspected rapist? That's just a lot of paternalistic bullshit, and if I were a woman I'd be insulted at the notion. We have laws that take care of this.
i wasn`t agreeing with the killing part.. it was the "Women, all women are beautiful personally.."

[Sweet_LiL_Hunnie]

Really ive tried to express my concern and try to express my love for my country but then what can you do when you get stuff like " why are you being so over patriotic, what has the country ever done for you?


u know what, ive read your posts on this topic and all i can say is that you bitch and whine about how you care about indian women and u put others down that help women or poor ppl in general and attempt to make them feel bad. its like you are saying by being desi tjhe only thing you can do is help your fellow desi.

also if you have sooo much love for your country to put other ppl down n make their efforts seem meaningless why dont u just move back home and dedicate your life to that sort of work, like look at all the stuff shabana azmi does...you could be like her

also do you think complaining and spending your time on rd is helping desi women, if you think we are all sooo ignorant start programs in school to educate the other desis, link up with a desi charity or like get with saheli n help desi women

i dont' like your him better than you attitude at all on this topic and it's very rude, so stop it. also people can still love their country and give to other charities....do you think god really cares who we help as long as we help those in need?

[jatti_down_under]

u know what, ive read your posts on this topic and all i can say is that you bitch and whine about how you care about indian women and u put others down that help women or poor ppl in general and attempt to make them feel bad. its like you are saying by being desi tjhe only thing you can do is help your fellow desi.

also if you have sooo much love for your country to put other ppl down n make their efforts seem meaningless why dont u just move back home and dedicate your life to that sort of work, like look at all the stuff shabana azmi does...you could be like her

also do you think complaining and spending your time on rd is helping desi women, if you think we are all sooo ignorant start programs in school to educate the other desis, link up with a desi charity or like get with saheli n help desi women

i dont' like your him better than you attitude at all on this topic and it's very rude, so stop it. also people can still love their country and give to other charities....do you think god really cares who we help as long as we help those in need?

Meh, ok?

btw im moving back in december.

[choclate_kisses]

...WOAH ... :eek: thats way 2 harsh and sad...

[pinkdoll]

2 rapes, 4 murders every hour in India Source: IANS. Image
Source: IANS
New Delhi, Mar 11: How crime prone is India? Every hour, 25 violent
crimes take place in the country while 59 housewives commit suicide every day.

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And two accidental deaths occur every two minutes across this vast country of a billion people.

The violent crimes include two rapes, four murders, 10 culpable homicides and one dowry death on an hourly basis, say figures compiled by the National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB).

A snapshot of the other heinous crimes is also an eye-opener - 17 crimes are committed against a woman every hour, three kidnappings and abductions and five crimes are carried out against a Scheduled Caste/Tribe person, hourly.

In its latest report "Crime in India", related to 2002, the NCRB states that a total of 5,531,172 cognisable crimes were registered of which 1,780,330 were crimes attracting provisions of the Indian Penal Code. The rest were crimes reported under Special and Local Laws (SLL), which cover 22 heads like gambling, illegal arms possession and prostitution, an increase of 3.5 percent over the previous year.

Interestingly, the union territory of Pondicherry reported the highest crime rate (447.7) for all IPC crimes, 2.6 times the national crime rate of 169.5. It also reported 54 suicides per 100,000 of population as against the national average of 10.6.

Kerala reported the highest crime rate followed by Assam and Arunachal Pradesh.

Uttar Pradesh, the country's most populous state, had the dubious distinction of accounting for 19 percent of the total of 35,290 murder cases registered for the year.

As for crimes against women, Chhattisgarh reported 38.4 percent of a total of 146,678 cases registered nationwide. Among the 35-mega cities, Delhi accounted for 24 percent (320 out of 1,312) rape cases and 34 percent (759 of the 2,251) of kidnappings and abduction of women.

Ironically, among the 35 cities, Delhi accounted for 61 percent deaths due to starvation and thirst.

The other highlights of the NCRB report revealed that nearly one fourth of a total of 10,469 crimes committed against children were reported from Madhya Pradesh. The state also reported the highest crime rate of 11.6 for crimes against Scheduled Castes as compared to the national average of 3.2.

Gujarat reported a 146 percent increase in dacoity cases while Tripura showed a 750 percent increase in auto thefts.

As for custodial crimes, 84 custodial deaths were reported across the country, for which 32 policemen were charge-sheeted but none convicted.

In a separate section, the NCRB report disclosed that 19 percent of all accidental deaths in the country were reported from Maharashtra and 26 percent of road accident victims were occupants of either trucks or lorries.

Goa accounted for the highest rate of accidental deaths - 71 per 100,000 population, as compared to the national average of 26.4.

West Bengal, Maharashtra and Karnataka constituted 37 percent of a total of 108,506 suicide victims.

According to the report, 59 housewives, on an average, committed suicide every day in the country. Yet, the average male-female ratio of suicide victims was 61:39.

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ohhh my god! thats so upsetting.
It just shows how women in desi culture arent treated fairly..
but im shocked by the high suicide rate...
may they all rest in peace.

[Sweet_LiL_Hunnie]

Meh, ok?

btw im moving back in december.

it doesn't mean you are going to do all you can every free second of the day for day for desi women....

i truly hope you loose your attitude it's not appealing, not that im saying i am but im just putting that out there

[jatti_down_under]

it doesn't mean you are going to do all you can every free second of the day for day for desi women....

i truly hope you loose your attitude it's not appealing, not that im saying i am but im just putting that out there

Yeah, keep on assuming stuff, way to go,

[desi_balla63]

:no:

Let it go, people.

[Sweet_LiL_Hunnie]

Yeah, keep on assuming stuff, way to go,


so then i assumed wrong and basically every free second of the day while you are back home you are going to be helping desi women??? if so great but once again why are u soo bitchy towards ppl that do some good in teh world i just can't understand it