How many hindus here eat Beef??

[Got Lassi]

I was just wandering, i dont by the way.

[pimpkidman828]

me me wait i am muslim hahahaah, i love beef and chicken hwo cna u live without that taste

[rockerbabe]

I was just wandering, i dont by the way.
i used to..........but i stoped eatting it like two years ago

[TrueIndiAnSOul]

im hindu n i eat chicken not beef.

and i got a question: is eating any meat against hinduism or just beef? and i also read in another thread someone said that its "bad" to eat meat not against hinduism unless its beef.

[rockerbabe]

im hindu n i eat chicken not beef.

and i got a question: is eating any meat against hinduism or just beef? and i also read in another thread someone said that its "bad" to eat meat not against hinduism unless its beef.
umm i don't think it is against hinduism......i just think it is looked down apoun......cuz i asked my pops why.......and he said one of the reasons cows are so scread is because back in the days cows where the way of living....they gave us milk.....transportation and helped us farm....i know that isn't the only reasons why...but i know it is one of them

[Got Lassi]

im hindu n i eat chicken not beef.

and i got a question: is eating any meat against hinduism or just beef? and i also read in another thread someone said that its "bad" to eat meat not against hinduism unless its beef.


Actualy its only for brahmans who are the high priest cast of hinduism who are not allowed to eat any meat i'm a brahaman and my parents dont eat any meat but i eat meat but not beef.

P.S.

Brahamans last names are like kumaria or sharmas

[Got Lassi]

umm i don't think it is against hinduism......i just think it is looked down apoun......cuz i asked my pops why.......and he said one of the reasons cows are so scread is because back in the days cows where the way of living....they gave us milk.....transportation and helped us farm....i know that isn't the only reasons why...but i know it is one of them

yah cause most of the hindu population worships lord krishna like myself and cows are one of the sacred animals because there good mothers and provide thier calfs with a good life so they are sacred.

[sickyricky87]

Actualy its only for brahmans who are the high priest cast of hinduism who are not allowed to eat any meat i'm a brahaman and my parents dont eat any meat but i eat meat but not beef.

P.S.

Brahamans last names are like kumaria or sharmas
brahmans got a whole variety of last names and its not only brahmans as such who are barred from eating meat..gujju hindus (except the rajputs) cannot eat meat as well

[rockerbabe]

brahmans got a whole variety of last names and its not only brahmans as such who are barred from eating meat..gujju hindus (except the rajputs) cannot eat meat as well
guju hindu here............umm we can eat meat........it is just looked down apon

[desi_gunda]

I'm a brahmin but I eat all kindsa meat. Literally. Only because my dad's profession doesnt allow him to be a vegetarian.

[TrueIndiAnSOul]

i know if ur swamminarayan then u cant eat meat. (DAMN swamminarayans haha jp)

[rockerbabe]

i know if u are jain u can't eat things that grow in the ground.....like carrots and potatoes

[TrueIndiAnSOul]

brahmans got a whole variety of last names and its not only brahmans as such who are barred from eating meat..gujju hindus (except the rajputs) cannot eat meat as well
i dont see what being guju has to do with it. im guju but im rajput but lotta my friends eat meat n they re some what religious. only sect of hindusim that cant eat meat that i know is swamminarayan

[Got Lassi]

And Brahamans

[jat_jatt_sardar]

lol
would u people eat it if u had to kill it, I mean can u really trust the way it was killed, what the animal had to go through, how it was raised? I mean u can't really trust unless u raised the animal yourself, and then after rearing it, are you gonna look in its eyes and then kill the cute animal? Can you bring yourself to do it?

[sharthap]

i know if u are jain u can't eat things that grow in the ground.....like carrots and potatoes

lol yea...thats like so sad. imagine .... no potatoes, no onions either :tears:

i eat every kind of meat...if it moves, i'll eat it. if it doesn't move, I'LL PUSH IT! :dribble:

but tho we're brahmins, i am told that we started eating meat long time back coz we (garhwalis) had to fight the nepalis, and so the head priest started the practice of sacrificing goat to God. The rationale behind this practice was getting the people used to seeing blood, so that they could be better fighters. it was not so much to please God.

so we're brahmins with special permission to eat meat :Peace:

[no_coast_desi]

hey man i got a serious question....is it against the hindu religion to not eat any type of meat, or is it the only meat they cannot eat is beef? im seriously confused....i thought it was all types of meat...but my friend told me it was just beef.....so im not sure.

[~IRIS~]

hey man i got a serious question....is it against the hindu religion to not eat any type of meat, or is it the only meat they cannot eat is beef? im seriously confused....i thought it was all types of meat...but my friend told me it was just beef.....so im not sure.


it depends on which section of hinduism you are in... i'm a brahmin, so i'm not allowed to eat any meat whatsoever.... most of the other sections of hinduism allow meat EXCEPT beef to be eaten.

[ChillinG]

Im no expert in Hinduism but I have learnt quite a bit in my short life.

Hindus are NOT supposed to eat meat on the basis that Hindu's believe in not killing living beings. Hence we are not supposed to have meat, not just beef but all meat, even eggs because the egg had the potential to be a life. Beef is just seperated because of Lord Krishna's love of cows and like an earlier comment said a cow provides us with milk, use to help transport etc...

Hindu's also believe that we shud not intoxicate our bodies which means no alcohol or drugs either (including tobacco!)

ChillinG!

[~IRIS~]

Im no expert in Hinduism but I have learnt quite a bit in my short life.

Hindus are NOT supposed to eat meat on the basis that Hindu's believe in not killing living beings. Hence we are not supposed to have meat, not just beef but all meat, even eggs because the egg had the potential to be a life. Beef is just seperated because of Lord Krishna's love of cows and like an earlier comment said a cow provides us with milk, use to help transport etc...

Hindu's also believe that we shud not intoxicate our bodies which means no alcohol or drugs either (including tobacco!)

ChillinG!


I'm sure that it's only Brahmins that aren't supposed to eat meat :sarb:

[notoriou$punjabi]

Nothing can restrict any1 from doing certain things untill the person does not realise what they have gotten themselves into....

There are 3 types of food....Satvick Rajsick and Tamsick

Satvick-- Fruits n vegetables milk products etc.... very peaceful nature

Rajsick-- Fruits n vegetables cooked with a lot of masalas n basically food we eat cos we like the taste n don't care to check if its good for our health.

Tamsick-- Non veg because of its aggresive nature..... meat eaters are aggressive.. basically distrubed minds

[kevvik85]

aint this thread abt eating beef, and not abt laurels and teachings of hinduism, enough religoius threads, yah and i proudly eat beef.... cuase it taste good .... and yes, the reason we hindu's don't normally eat beef, is because we respect the cow for giving as milk, cheese, and wat not, yes and it trasnported us, another reason....

[kevvik85]

Im no expert in Hinduism but I have learnt quite a bit in my short life.

Hindus are NOT supposed to eat meat on the basis that Hindu's believe in not killing living beings. Hence we are not supposed to have meat, not just beef but all meat, even eggs because the egg had the potential to be a life. Beef is just seperated because of Lord Krishna's love of cows and like an earlier comment said a cow provides us with milk, use to help transport etc...

Hindu's also believe that we shud not intoxicate our bodies which means no alcohol or drugs either (including tobacco!)

ChillinG!

dude ure wrong man... no intoxication, with te cannibis hemp plant being a part of hinduism, how can it be wrong not to be intoxicated, when lord shiva was intoxicated with marijuana, he used to smoke it..... it's his plant, cannibis is the plant of gods for hinduism... ure cokcing arn't u ... hahaha :sarb:

[ChillinG]

I'm sure that it's only Brahmins that aren't supposed to eat meat :sarb:

As far as i no dear, there aint a seperate rule for Brahmans and another for the rest...... its just that they follow it far more strictly then others.

Like the guy above said, there are 3 types of food, they just stick to Satvick thats all.

[ChillinG]

Nothing can restrict any1 from doing certain things untill the person does not realise what they have gotten themselves into....

There are 3 types of food....Satvick Rajsick and Tamsick

Satvick-- Fruits n vegetables milk products etc.... very peaceful nature

Rajsick-- Fruits n vegetables cooked with a lot of masalas n basically food we eat cos we like the taste n don't care to check if its good for our health.

Tamsick-- Non veg because of its aggresive nature..... meat eaters are aggressive.. basically distrubed minds



Thats right mate, its all upto the individual on how you closely you follow the "guidelines".... if thats the correct word

[ChillinG]

dude ure wrong man... no intoxication, with te cannibis hemp plant being a part of hinduism, how can it be wrong not to be intoxicated, when lord shiva was intoxicated with marijuana, he used to smoke it..... it's his plant, cannibis is the plant of gods for hinduism... ure cokcing arn't u ... hahaha :sarb:


LOL i wish mate!! :p

But you gotta realise that he wasnt taking it for pleasure like most people do these days (some take it as a pain-killer) but the main reason people took was it to put them in a state of mind to meditate..

I know some people take it even today to meditate and "bring them closer to God" .............the truth..... i dont know! Never tried it!

[Nationalist]

I used to be a hindu and i never ate beef, or any meat for that matter. In fact I still am a vegetarian. But then again South Indians parents tend to care less about language and more about religion, (in general in my observation). Of course though, I'm generalizing from a small sample size so I could be wrong.

[gujjugangsta]

vegetarian :D

[Mr.GQ-007]

me too vegetarian, also Brahmin, for all the guju boys(probably Brahmin"s) check out my theard in Serious Discussions- "Who has a Janoi"- i want more answers please.

[americandesi]

i dont think it says anywhere NOT to eat meat.....i mean HINDUISM has no restrictions wat so ever!! its quite a liberal religion, but ppl for generations didnt eat meat due to respect to cow as giver of everything, and also associated w/ LORD KRISHNA, how can u eat beef n respect em at the same time?

so ya...i think thats the thing, correct me if im wrong. i know some of my friends do eat beef once in a while....(coz they r soo cheap, taco bell...$1 ) l

btw... i dont eat beef...nvr will..

[desi_gunda]

Yo man.. Ya'll make me feel guilty by saying "Only brahmins cant eat meat" I'm a brahmin .Dont do that 2 me :)

[urbanmix786]

I'm a brahmin but I eat all kindsa meat. Literally. Only because my dad's profession doesnt allow him to be a vegetarian.

You don't need to answer this if u don't for comfortable, but I really would like to know what profession this is where the eating of meat is compulsory.
I am a Muslim and i don't eat beef or Swine's meat.

[Got Lassi]

dude ure wrong man... no intoxication, with te cannibis hemp plant being a part of hinduism, how can it be wrong not to be intoxicated, when lord shiva was intoxicated with marijuana, he used to smoke it..... it's his plant, cannibis is the plant of gods for hinduism... ure cokcing arn't u ... hahaha :sarb:


Yah that's why it says in holy books that we shouldn't do the bad things god has done but the good ones. And the marijuana plant was just made lord shivas plant because its like super common in india. So many hippies... :sarb:

[cutealicious]

i dont not only do i feel bad i dont like the smell it nauseates me

[bigkid]

You don't need to answer this if u don't for comfortable, but I really would like to know what profession this is where the eating of meat is compulsory.
I am a Muslim and i don't eat beef or Swine's meat.


I used to be like that too, before i just cut out the meat entirely.
I think beef is nasty because it's red meat, humans have red meat.
It has been known to cause hormonal imbalances in the brain also.
People who eat a lot of red meat tend to be more impulsive and animalistic.
Now swine thats just filthy, in scientific studies baterical growth was 75%
greater than any other meats. Also, pepperoni is said to never go bad.
If the meat doesn't go bad, then it can't be good for your digestion.
It just sits in your intestines, and it never breaks down, grossss :mad:

As far as hindu's who eat beef, everyone is different and that's OK.
Every person i talk to gives me a different story and everyone believes
something different. We can be different, thats acceptible...right?

[sharpeyes]

I eat everything that moves :) ....Beef is mt fav...What is pizza without pepperoni & salami???!!! :dance3:

Grr....hunger pangs!

[nirmal_aus]

I eat everything that moves :) ....Beef is mt fav...What is pizza without pepperoni & salami???!!! :dance3:

Grr....hunger pangs!


:p cant eat rabbit meat that is the only one i remember i killed a rabbit accidently by running over it with my trail bike felt like shit for week cause it was cute man but it did die in my hands. but i love the other meats fav lamb and i do like my mcdonalds beef burgers so i am hindu

[Space-Cowboy]

would u people eat it if u had to kill it, I mean can u really trust the way it was killed, what the animal had to go through, how it was raised? I mean u can't really trust unless u raised the animal yourself, and then after rearing it, are you gonna look in its eyes and then kill the cute animal? Can you bring yourself to do it?

I happen to believe that every animal's spirit on Earth has a natural inherent understanging on the inner workings of the Circle of Life. Thus, understanding this, were I to hunt, say a deer [which I've done, with my uncle], while the animal would try to escape, if it DID get caught, it would bear no ill will against me. And as such, I would thank the animal spirit for giving me it's life energy wish the soul a safe journey and prosperity in its next life.

[nirmal_aus]

I happen to believe that every animal's spirit on Earth has a natural inherent understanging on the inner workings of the Circle of Life. Thus, understanding this, were I to hunt, say a deer [which I've done, with my uncle], while the animal would try to escape, if it DID get caught, it would bear no ill will against me. And as such, I would thank the animal spirit for giving me it's life energy wish the soul a safe journey and prosperity in its next life.



:sarb: its barbaric but ??? have do we know that there might be a next life. and it does not given you the power to kill that animal with an invention of the human will. might as well kill that deer with you own hands to prove that it really did stand a chance with you. u know what i mean. no disrepect. wayin the odds it sucks becuase ethically what ever life it is you cant promise an after life, might as well have enjoyed it life here on earth and let the natural death take it to its purposed afterlife. hoped that makes sense

[Geezer]

aint this thread abt eating beef, and not abt laurels and teachings of hinduism, enough religoius threads, yah and i proudly eat beef.... cuase it taste good .... and yes, the reason we hindu's don't normally eat beef, is because we respect the cow for giving as milk, cheese, and wat not, yes and it trasnported us, another reason....

I guess its each to their own but I dont accept the fact that you call yourself a Hindu and "proudly" eat beef. There are reasons why certain things are prohibited, if you overlook those reasons and just do what you want then dont call yourself a Hindu because you're just making a plum out of yourself.


dude ure wrong man... no intoxication, with te cannibis hemp plant being a part of hinduism, how can it be wrong not to be intoxicated, when lord shiva was intoxicated with marijuana, he used to smoke it..... it's his plant, cannibis is the plant of gods for hinduism... ure cokcing arn't u ... hahaha :sarb:

Cannibis isnt the plant of gods. It's however mentioned throughout the history of India and in the scriptures but not in the intoxicating sense. It's for medicinal purposes. The bhang leaf was used to help with fasting as it decreases appetite and helps to reduce fever also. Not to get high.

[desi_gunda]

You don't need to answer this if u don't for comfortable, but I really would like to know what profession this is where the eating of meat is compulsory.
I am a Muslim and i don't eat beef or Swine's meat.

He's a captain onboard an American Tanker.. The cooks dont make vegetarian food... And I've sailed all my summer vacations with him. To survive I had to become non-vegetarian.. Hope it explains..

The muslim sailors also eat w'e was served. Halal or not they ate it. No other choice.

[urbanmix786]

I used to be like that too, before i just cut out the meat entirely.
I think beef is nasty because it's red meat, humans have red meat.
It has been known to cause hormonal imbalances in the brain also.
People who eat a lot of red meat tend to be more impulsive and animalistic.
Now swine thats just filthy, in scientific studies baterical growth was 75%
greater than any other meats. Also, pepperoni is said to never go bad.
If the meat doesn't go bad, then it can't be good for your digestion.
It just sits in your intestines, and it never breaks down, grossss :mad:

Lols don’t u think u are being a bit rash now with saying red meat makes one more impulsive and animalistic lols. I personally just don’t like beef, I tried it once when I was younger and I remember feeling so sick, it put me of for life. As for Swine’s meat I never tried it and nor do I intend to. :neutral: In shock about pepperoni thank God I never tried that.

As far as hindu's who eat beef, everyone is different and that's OK.
Every person i talk to gives me a different story and everyone believes
something different. We can be different, thats acceptible...right?

Well I am Muslim but I do know that Manu Smruti, the law book of Hindus, in chapter 5 verse 30- 31 says it is ok for hindus to eat meat, I don’t know if eating beef is ok though as a cow is a pretty sacred animal in Hinduism.

[urbanmix786]

He's a captain onboard an American Tanker.. The cooks dont make vegetarian food... And I've sailed all my summer vacations with him. To survive I had to become non-vegetarian.. Hope it explains..

The muslim sailors also eat w'e was served. Halal or not they ate it. No other choice.

Sounds cool, I was just curious and that is understandable for means of survival I guess any type of food is fine.

[paulie walnuts]

Lols don’t u think u are being a bit rash now with saying red meat makes one more impulsive and animalistic lols. I personally just don’t like beef, I tried it once when I was younger and I remember feeling so sick, it put me of for life. As for Swine’s meat I never tried it and nor do I intend to. :neutral: In shock about pepperoni thank God I never tried that.
i agree that claiming that beef causes such behavior changes is unfounded....similar to the absurdity of claims that pork causes these types of behavior changes.

Well I am Muslim but I do know that Manu Smruti, the law book of Hindus, in chapter 5 verse 30- 31 says it is ok for hindus to eat meat, I don’t know if eating beef is ok though as a cow is a pretty sacred animal in Hinduism.
Manusmirti is not the "lawbook of hindus". it was the law book of ancient India, which happened to be a hindu society. currently, it is not regarded as an authoritative source by the vast majority of hindus. even during its time of authority, it was never believed to be a divine lawbook... as it was written by a man named Manu, who based his writings on his own interpretations of the Shruti (divine scriptures).

a few "rules" that are hardly challenged are simply that Brahmins (priests/scholars) cannot eat any meat at all, and that Kshatriyas (warriors) can eat all meat except cow-meat (beef). Cow-meat being off-limits applies to all hindus.

of course, one can always argue (not so accurately, btw) that a Hindu is free to do whatever he wants and none of these restrictions apply. but that's another story.

[matouwah]

My Hindu friends are vegetarions on Mondays and Fridays I think. Rest of the time they eat beef more than I do.


Also, pepperoni is said to never go bad.
If the meat doesn't go bad, then it can't be good for your digestion.
It just sits in your intestines, and it never breaks down, grossss :mad:


Pepperoni does go bad, it needs to be properly refridgerated if kept for extended periods of time. My exgirlfriend worked at a restaurant over the summer and they used to throw a lot of meat out every week that was coming close to its use-by date, including pepperoni.

[desi_gunda]

Sounds cool, I was just curious and that is understandable for means of survival I guess any type of food is fine.

Yes sir.

[Space-Cowboy]

:sarb: its barbaric but ??? have do we know that there might be a next life. and it does not given you the power to kill that animal with an invention of the human will. might as well kill that deer with you own hands to prove that it really did stand a chance with you. u know what i mean. no disrepect. wayin the odds it sucks becuase ethically what ever life it is you cant promise an after life, might as well have enjoyed it life here on earth and let the natural death take it to its purposed afterlife. hoped that makes sense

Yes it does, with the understanding that perhaps one day, a tiger, or some other predator, may come for me. In the same way, I would not bear that creature and ill will. I would try to defend myself yes, but if the tiger won, then so be it, such is the natural course of life. In the case of the deer, once I die, as the Circle of Life dictates, my body would be decomposed into the soil to provide nourishment to plants which in turn would provide nourishment to other animals.... thus the Life energy flows thru us. The key is to maintain sustainable development to ensure that Life Energy continues to flow. What is WRONG, is to revel in the death of a creature, such as taking its head as a trophy. In fact I've nagged my uncle many a time, everytime he thinks of bringing a deer head home. Killing animals for food and clothing is fine, as that is for survival. Glorification of the killing thru trophies and bragging..... THAT is wrong!...

In the case of beef/pork. I don't eat either.... why would you? The fat content in those is atrocious, and they don't contain even a quarter of the protein [pound per pound] that you'd find in chicken, fish, turkey and red meat such as goat, lamb, deer, bison.

[matouwah]

Beef, chicken and fish have the approximately the same amount of protein.

[Got Lassi]

Yah this is totaly off the topic but i just didnt feel like making another thread anyways does anyone remember that thing in india that happened when they made like the murtis of gods drink milk and the milk was like dissapearing all around the world that was pretty cool. Just thought i'd talk about it since there's so much hinduism talk goin on here. :o

[Space-Cowboy]

Beef, chicken and fish have the approximately the same amount of protein.

Go do some research before you say stupid things like this.

1) Pound per pound chicken and fish have 5 times the protein of Beef.

2) By mere fact that beef contains twice as much FAT as chicken would be enough to conclude that beef has less protein.


Yah this is totaly off the topic but i just didnt feel like making another thread anyways does anyone remember that thing in india that happened when they made like the murtis of gods drink milk and the milk was like dissapearing all around the world that was pretty cool. Just thought i'd talk about it since there's so much hinduism talk goin on here.

There is nothing mystical about this. It has to do with surface tension and statics. Most educated Hindus will tell you that these stories were superstition.

[matouwah]

I was mistaken, I was referencing that in a 200 calorie serving beef, fish and chicken have the same amount of protein.

[desi_gunda]

Go do some research before you say stupid things like this.

1) Pound per pound chicken and fish have 5 times the protein of Beef.

2) By mere fact that beef contains twice as much FAT as chicken would be enough to conclude that beef has less protein.



There is nothing mystical about this. It has to do with surface tension and statics. Most educated Hindus will tell you that these stories were superstition.

Yup. Agreed

[AUM1086]

on top of being morally wrong to eat animals when u have other food, eating beef is generally something hindus especially dont do because the cow is used for farming and milk... i used to eat meat but stopped when i was done growing, i dont wuna die with 10lbs of lard in my body.. beef is nasty shit besides, i dont kno what smells worse hamburger meat or porkchops cooking

[bigkid]

My Hindu friends are vegetarions on Mondays and Fridays I think. Rest of the time they eat beef more than I do.



Pepperoni does go bad, it needs to be properly refridgerated if kept for extended periods of time. My exgirlfriend worked at a restaurant over the summer and they used to throw a lot of meat out every week that was coming close to its use-by date, including pepperoni.

So if you kept chicken, beef, and some pepperoni (which is the worst of all pork) in the fridge you would see the beef and chicken go bad 1st, and oh yeah that pepperoni (which some moron at the FDA classified as meat) would still be good, matter of fact maybe even 3 moths later it would be good.

And as far as the restaurant comment, go eat there since you love it soo much.... and If you don't believe me go buy some fresh pepperoni from the store and read the expiration date.

[hindu_Student]

As for my knowledge Hinduism believe in practice of “ahisma” meaning “non-violence”. Thus the violence level in your life should be kept minimum.

[sunnysingh633]

me nope i dont majority of hindu people dont eat beef its against the religion.

[matouwah]

So if you kept chicken, beef, and some pepperoni (which is the worst of all pork) in the fridge you would see the beef and chicken go bad 1st, and oh yeah that pepperoni (which some moron at the FDA classified as meat) would still be good, matter of fact maybe even 3 moths later it would be good.

And as far as the restaurant comment, go eat there since you love it soo much.... and If you don't believe me go buy some fresh pepperoni from the store and read the expiration date.
Are you a fucking idiot? I said pepperoni does go bad and the restaurant throws it out.

I'm having serious doubts about whether or not you suffer from brain damage.

[paulie walnuts]

Are you a fucking idiot? I said pepperoni does go bad and the restaurant throws it out.
dry sausages like pepperoni and hard/genoa salami do not require any refrigeration and can last up to a year like that. you are probably referring to summer sausages/cotto salami/bologna....those require refrigeration.

go to any butcher shop, the pepperoni and salami logs are dangling from the ceiling, and packets of pepperonis are found out in the open at grocery stores.

[matouwah]

Those are surface treated, as soon as they are cut they require refrigeration I believe.

[paulie walnuts]

Those are surface treated, as soon as they are cut they require refrigeration I believe.
pepperonis in the grocery store are pre-sliced, and they are stored and displayed in unrefrigerated areas (room temp), often near other cured meat products.

[notoriou$punjabi]

dude ure wrong man... no intoxication, with te cannibis hemp plant being a part of hinduism, how can it be wrong not to be intoxicated, when lord shiva was intoxicated with marijuana, he used to smoke it..... it's his plant, cannibis is the plant of gods for hinduism... ure cokcing arn't u ... hahaha :sarb:
There are many other lessons to learn from Lord Shiva which you haven't but you caught on to him smoking pot....... so you basically lie to yourself that you are not doing anything wrong by smoking weed.

[bigkid]

Are you a fucking idiot? I said pepperoni does go bad and the restaurant throws it out.

I'm having serious doubts about whether or not you suffer from brain damage.


Are you mad? Did I hurt yer lil feelings?..... Okay, go cry to yer maami now
Cause I dun give a shyt.... go fukk yer mom.

Just so you and everyone else knows, pigs eat their own shyt!

[urbanmix786]

^There is certain etiquette when addressing someone and proving a point, peoples views differ all the time, respect that! So don't mock/diss one another.

[kurupzion]

So if you kept chicken, beef, and some pepperoni (which is the worst of all pork) in the fridge you would see the beef and chicken go bad 1st, and oh yeah that pepperoni (which some moron at the FDA classified as meat) would still be good, matter of fact maybe even 3 moths later it would be good.

And as far as the restaurant comment, go eat there since you love it soo much.... and If you don't believe me go buy some fresh pepperoni from the store and read the expiration date.

well why would pepperoni go bad first it is cooked already-thereby killing most the microbes that would cause it to go bad in the first place ,and then kept in a preservative fats oil and salt(that means its preserved not to go bad).

[kurupzion]

what you say about beef and protein content may be true however beef has the highest amount of creatine naturally that as humans we can directly absorb.

[kurupzion]

it also depends what aspect of hinduism you are referring to.as im sure most people would agree it isnt a religion but a faith and has many aspects/perspectives to it.there are the upanishads that show the ritualistic killing of animals as sacrifice,and many hindus used to eat beef,and other beef.its the large increase in vaishnavite religion that has lead to a decrease in hindus eating beef.look on the worshipper of kali the have animal sacrifices etc.so it depends from aspect of hinduism you are referring to as there are some that kill bullocks,cows,goats,chickens,and is also mentioned in the upanishads.

[matouwah]

Are you mad? Did I hurt yer lil feelings?..... Okay, go cry to yer maami now
Cause I dun give a shyt.... go fukk yer mom.

Just so you and everyone else knows, pigs eat their own shyt!

Seems like you're the only one crying in this thread, in fact every thread debating anything has you in it bitching and whining. Go fuck yourself.

[Space-Cowboy]

what you say about beef and protein content may be true however beef has the highest amount of creatine naturally that as humans we can directly absorb.

AAHAAAA! I was waiting for someone to bring that up. That's a myth, they have high amts of natural creatine, but not the highest. Goat meat does.
As does tuna.

[kurupzion]

shit i stand corrected thank you, for educating me on that myth.

[Got Lassi]

it also depends what aspect of hinduism you are referring to.as im sure most people would agree it isnt a religion but a faith and has many aspects/perspectives to it.there are the upanishads that show the ritualistic killing of animals as sacrifice,and many hindus used to eat beef,and other beef.its the large increase in vaishnavite religion that has lead to a decrease in hindus eating beef.look on the worshipper of kali the have animal sacrifices etc.so it depends from aspect of hinduism you are referring to as there are some that kill bullocks,cows,goats,chickens,and is also mentioned in the upanishads.

Yah but not eating it only killing them

[oosofreakish1]

i do ... grew up learning to eat everything

[hindu_Student]

i do ... grew up learning to eat everything

even humans :ugh:

[fine_booty]

It don't matter what caste you are from brahmin or anything else, Hinduism believes you shouldnt eat meat at all! Beef or otherwise... simple....

[nirmal_aus]

It don't matter what caste you are from brahmin or anything else, Hinduism believes you shouldnt eat meat at all! Beef or otherwise... simple....


thats ridiculous i am hindu so what i eat anything i want, not just me but every hindu does expect these brahmains and pure vegs (even these days brahmains starting to eat meat) got it totally worng girl :neutral: it dont matter what you expect it to be have to accept the real world sceaniro

[hindu_Student]

thats ridiculous i am hindu so what i eat anything i want, not just me but every hindu does expect these brahmains and pure vegs (even these days brahmains starting to eat meat) got it totally worng girl :neutral: it dont matter what you expect it to be have to accept the real world sceaniro

eating mean is considered uncivilized.

[typeOnegative]

It don't matter what caste you are from brahmin or anything else, Hinduism believes you shouldnt eat meat at all! Beef or otherwise... simple....


That is too sweeping a statement. I think you are very wrong.

[el_illumbrato]

im brahmin, and i dont eat meat, or eggs, and ive now given up cows milk, and am strruggling, but improving in cutting cheese out. aka, going Vegan.

its for health and ethical reasons. I dont think cows are treated too nice here, nor most chickens (even free range), plus pasteurisation kills off an enzyme in the milk needed to properly digest it.

also, in yoga, it gives nice reasons for why to follow a sattvic diet, for mental n emotional reasons, and to benefit ur state of mind.
The chinese (taoists n buddhists) have a similar diet recommended for monks and martial artists, thats enough corroboration from the 2 cultures i respect the most in this world, so i follow it.

also, if you believe in reincarnation, why eat an animal? that good be ur dead mum, grandma, ur lil baby cousin who died at birth.. any one!

If your a Hindu/buddhist, u beleive in reincarnation, so if you eat an animal, why not eat a person? same thing fundamentally under reincarnation theory being correct

[Space-Cowboy]

im brahmin, and i dont eat meat, or eggs, and ive now given up cows milk, and am strruggling, but improving in cutting cheese out. aka, going Vegan.

its for health and ethical reasons. I dont think cows are treated too nice here, nor most chickens (even free range), plus pasteurisation kills off an enzyme in the milk needed to properly digest it.

also, in yoga, it gives nice reasons for why to follow a sattvic diet, for mental n emotional reasons, and to benefit ur state of mind.
The chinese (taoists n buddhists) have a similar diet recommended for monks and martial artists, thats enough corroboration from the 2 cultures i respect the most in this world, so i follow it.

also, if you believe in reincarnation, why eat an animal? that good be ur dead mum, grandma, ur lil baby cousin who died at birth.. any one!

If your a Hindu/buddhist, u beleive in reincarnation, so if you eat an animal, why not eat a person? same thing fundamentally under reincarnation theory being correct


We are also humans, we are societal creatures, eating each other would be detrimental to society. Also, this world has a natural FOOD PYRAMID already in effect, we're just fulfilling our roles as humans in this pyramid, and in the circle of life. Btw, you can eat meat and still have respect for life, see my earliest post in this thread. I have ABSOLUTE respect for the animal spirit which has given me its body so that I may continue to live.

Life and death are transitions from one state of being to another, nothing more. It's PAIN that we must avoid. Causing PAIN is wrong, and evil, and immoral. So, should you ever go hunting, make sure you kill your animal quickly, don't cause the animal spirit undue harm.





BTW, under your logic, you shouldn't be eating plants either since they're living organisms.

[ChillinG]

It don't matter what caste you are from brahmin or anything else, Hinduism believes you shouldnt eat meat at all! Beef or otherwise... simple....

hey..... long time no hear!!!!!!

totally agree wit u :)

[el_illumbrato]

i think theres a slight difference between hunting animals in the wild like in a forest and eating them, and breeding them in an artificial environment simply for food.

the animal didnt give u its body, the coorporations' farms bred it, and stole its body for U to eat.

also the whole plant comment is the typical meat eater's answer. WE know for a fact that animals feel pain, not so sure about plants. And your saying that in the instant before the poor animal, bred to be killed, is slaughtered, it isnt feeling any fear at all? Imagine, all thruout it's body, at the instant of death, is the feeling of fear, and then yr eating that stuff.

the natural food pyramid is more a matter of survival and instincts. We dont need animals to survive, and we could overcome the instinct (if there is one) to eat them.

[Space-Cowboy]

the animal didnt give u its body, the coorporations' farms bred it, and stole its body for U to eat.

also the whole plant comment is the typical meat eater's answer. WE know for a fact that animals feel pain, not so sure about plants. And your saying that in the instant before the poor animal, bred to be killed, is slaughtered, it isnt feeling any fear at all? Imagine, all thruout it's body, at the instant of death, is the feeling of fear, and then yr eating that stuff.

the natural food pyramid is more a matter of survival and instincts. We dont need animals to survive, and we could overcome the instinct (if there is one) to eat them.

Our bodies were DESIGNED to consume meat, we are OMNIVORES. And unless you're on your way to attaining Nirvana as we speak, you're still just a human, you're still bound by your instincts however you may want to deny it. I've already said that I don't eat much beef/pork, so the corporations thing is a more of a nonissue. But if it were, I would say, that the animal is having a perfect life. They don't know that they are going to die, they feel no fear. I've also seen how animals are slaughtered. They are beheaded so quickly that they die before they even know that they're dead. No pain, no mess. [And yes, I still take time at supper to thank the animal spirit for giving me it's life]. As far as a 'life of suffering' is concerned, they are allowed to free roam on the range, and they are fed to fatness. The human equivalent would be to have a person basically be waited on hand and foot 24/7. I personally wouldn't mind that, and, then, at the prime of my life, they kill me off quickly, painlessly, so that I don't have to go through the weakness and pain and bullshit that comes with old age.


http://maddox.xmission.com/grill.html

http://www.wildlifedamagecontrol.com/animalrights/leastharm.htm


Side note: I prefer wild game [deer, etc.] to domestic livestock anyway...

[el_illumbrato]

Meat is an unnatural food. Several structural characteristics of the human body show that man was intended to live on fruits, cereals and nuts and not on flesh. For example, the carnassial teeth, which distinguish carnivorous animals, are entirely lacking in man, whose teeth closely resemble those of frugivorous animals.

Also, a flesh diet is unequal and unscientific, for when meat is eaten alone or mixed with vegetables, cereals and nuts, far more protein is usually consumed than is needed by the body. This protein excess acts as a drag on the system and forces the organs of excretion to do unnecessary work which often times results in disease.

Meat contains uric acid. Flesh is filled with effete matter...urea and uric acid, which has resulted from the breaking down of its proteins both before and after the death of the animal. When flesh is habitually eaten, the blood becomes saturated with these poisonous products, because the liver and kidneys cannot excrete them fast enough. As a result, deposits of uric acid are formed round the joints and in the tissues. From the presence of these deposits and from the uric acid in solution in the blood a host of diseases arises. With few exceptions, there is very little uric acid in vegetable foods and on this account vegetarians are usually free from uric acid diseases (e.g., gout). Fruit juices are considered of great value in dissolving and eliminating uric acid from the system. Because of the pure blood resulting from a non-flesh diet, a vegetarian enjoys wonderful immunity from illness, his wounds heal quickly and there is little tendency towards inflammation. These facts were amply evidenced by the Japanese soldiers during the war between Japan and Russia.

Meat weakens the body. It has been found that to eliminate flesh from one's diet and to use vegetable food instead gives greater strength. There is a widespread delusion that lean meat gives strength; it does not. The protein which is its chief constituent is only able to replace worn-out cell material, and practically all the energy which moves the muscles and all the heat of the body must come from sugars, starches and fats. Experiments made by Professor Chittenden and recorded in his book "The Nutrition of Man", show that by reducing the amount of food eaten and especially the usual allowance of protein, there is a marked improvement in health. In an experiment with TRAINED athletes, who were supposed to be in splendid condition according to the usual standards, a 50% reduction in protein...mostly flesh, INCREASED their strength from 16% to 85% with an average gain of 35%.

These findings are frm the earliest research into vegeterianism back from 1912.
The research has just been further intensified in last century. Read some Daniel Reed too, those taoists really know their stuff about diet. he writes books, not internet articles.

also check out:
http://www.skcv.com/vegetarian1.htm

e.g.
1.

Human teeth, like those of the herbivorous creatures, are designed for grinding and chewing vegetable matter. Humans lack the sharp front teeth for tearing flesh that are characteristic of carnivores. Meat-eating animals generally swallow their food without chewing it and therefore do not require molars or a jaw capable of moving sideways.

2.

The human hand, with no sharp claws and with it's opposable thumb, is better suited to harvesting fruits and vegetables than to killing prey.



the fact that ur source is some egotistical idiot who says he's giot the "best page in the universe", and is blatantly dismissive of vegetarians..not just of as a lifestyle, but as a group of people, doesnt add much credence to ur source of info. lol

[Space-Cowboy]

Meat is an unnatural food. Several structural characteristics of the human body show that man was intended to live on fruits, cereals and nuts and not on flesh. For example, the carnassial teeth, which distinguish carnivorous animals, are entirely lacking in man, whose teeth closely resemble those of frugivorous animals.

Wrong. Meat contains ALL essential proteins that otherwise you'd need 5 diff. beans and lentils to compensate for. Grow anemic on your own time, don't give me this crap.


Also, a flesh diet is unequal and unscientific, for when meat is eaten alone or mixed with vegetables, cereals and nuts, far more protein is usually consumed than is needed by the body. This protein excess acts as a drag on the system and forces the organs of excretion to do unnecessary work which often times results in disease.

For the average.... below average person. The average ATHLETE needs to consume 1.5 grams of protein for every lbs he or she weighs. You cant get that from a veggi diet. The most you'll manage to do is give yourself a legume-induced diaharrea.


Meat contains <a style='text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 3px double;' href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=24&k=uric%20acid" onmouseover="window.status='uric acid'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">uric acid</a>. Flesh is filled with effete matter...urea and uric acid, which has resulted from the breaking down of its proteins both before and after the death of the animal. When flesh is habitually eaten, the blood becomes saturated with these poisonous products, because the liver and kidneys cannot excrete them fast enough. As a result, deposits of uric acid are formed round the joints and in the tissues. From the presence of these deposits and from the uric acid in solution in the blood a host of diseases arises. With few exceptions, there is very little uric acid in vegetable foods and on this account vegetarians are usually free from uric acid diseases (e.g., gout). Fruit juices are considered of great value in dissolving and eliminating uric acid from the system. Because of the pure blood resulting from a non-flesh diet, a vegetarian enjoys wonderful immunity from illness, his wounds heal quickly and there is little tendency towards inflammation. These facts were amply evidenced by the Japanese soldiers during the war between Japan and Russia.

..... Uhhh I never said stop eating fruits, they are just as important, but so is MEAT.



Meat weakens the body. It has been found that to eliminate flesh from one's diet and to use vegetable food instead gives greater strength. There is a widespread delusion that lean meat gives strength; it does not. The protein which is its chief constituent is only able to replace worn-out cell material, and practically all the energy which moves the muscles and all the heat of the body must come from sugars, starches and fats.



ahahahahahahaha ok, I think I've read enough... seriously, stop taking propaganda from Veggi-Nazi websites.

My "egotistical idiot" got his info from much more reliable sources than you.

[Rachana]

i dont eat meat

[fine_booty]

thats ridiculous i am hindu so what i eat anything i want, not just me but every hindu does expect these brahmains and pure vegs (even these days brahmains starting to eat meat) got it totally worng girl :neutral: it dont matter what you expect it to be have to accept the real world sceaniro

Listen I stand by what I say...If your Hindu or even Sikh... your not ment to eat meat... simple....Oh dont worry im not trying to act superior I eat meat myself... but just not beef....anyway... read the Gita or Guru granth Sahib... you'll see ;)

[typeOnegative]

Listen I stand by what I say...If your Hindu or even Sikh... your not ment to eat meat... simple....Oh dont worry im not trying to act superior I eat meat myself... but just not beef....anyway... read the Gita or Guru granth Sahib... you'll see ;)


Where in the Gita is there the injunction against the consumption of meat? I am confused.

[desi_gunda]

Yes I'd like to c wer in the Gita it prohibits to eat meat.

[paulie walnuts]

^typeO and desigunda....there is no prohibition of eating meat. Hindu scriptures are not lawbooks. you won't find a direct, compulsory ruling on ANYTHING, not just regarding meat consumption....if you're looking for such rulings then you're looking at the wrong religion (save for the Manusmirti, which is no longer used for anything).... it is the interpretation of them that indicates that slaughter of innocent animals is not condoned.

[desi_gunda]

Agreed. I asked because I'd never heard of it. I'm a non vegetarian anyway although I want to stop eating beef.

[sharthap]

We are also humans, we are societal creatures, eating each other would be detrimental to society. Also, this world has a natural FOOD PYRAMID already in effect, we're just fulfilling our roles as humans in this pyramid, and in the circle of life. Btw, you can eat meat and still have respect for life, see my earliest post in this thread. I have ABSOLUTE respect for the animal spirit which has given me its body so that I may continue to live.

Life and death are transitions from one state of being to another, nothing more. It's PAIN that we must avoid. Causing PAIN is wrong, and evil, and immoral. So, should you ever go hunting, make sure you kill your animal quickly, don't cause the animal spirit undue harm.





BTW, under your logic, you shouldn't be eating plants either since they're living organisms.

lol yea, advocating vegetarianism based on that killing animals is immoral is the most hypocritical arguement ever. going by that, its even worse to kill plants...they cant even expess their emotions.

and once again, i agree fully with the rest of your post cowboy. reasonable, logical, free from blind faith.

[nyzdrdevil718]

i do eat beef but then again i am not hindu :(

[kurupzion]

Listen I stand by what I say...If your Hindu or even Sikh... your not ment to eat meat... simple....Oh dont worry im not trying to act superior I eat meat myself... but just not beef....anyway... read the Gita or Guru granth Sahib... you'll see ;)
where in the gita ?
or the ggs? except the halal meat of course?
plus the human gastro intestinal tract is desogned for meat-ask any dentist or doctor.
even from our saliva we have enzymes that satrt breaking down protein found in meat etc and the tetth which contain canines and 2 premolars on each quadrant that 12 teeth alltogether to chew and strip meat-which guess what other carnivores have.
we as human also dont have cellulase which all vegetarian eating animals have to fully break down cellulose the main material of green plants like grass-which is why we can only eat only certain vegetarian food and not all plant life like grass etc

[Got Lassi]

Yes I'd like to c wer in the Gita it prohibits to eat meat.


Why don't you try reading it.

[typeOnegative]

^typeO and desigunda....there is no prohibition of eating meat. Hindu scriptures are not lawbooks. you won't find a direct, compulsory ruling on ANYTHING, not just regarding meat consumption....if you're looking for such rulings then you're looking at the wrong religion (save for the Manusmirti, which is no longer used for anything).... it is the interpretation of them that indicates that slaughter of innocent animals is not condoned.My point exactly Paulie. I think the Gita is not meant to tell you what to eat, what not to eat, where to crap, where not to crap etc. :)

[worldsfinest]

I was just wandering, i dont by the way.
im hindu...and i eat beef

[white_angel]

I'm a brahmin but I eat all kindsa meat. Literally. Only because my dad's profession doesnt allow him to be a vegetarian.

why is ur DAD butcher??? or is he workin in some muslim restaurant....leave these bloody pretends...u should not eat..and tell ur father the same......

[white_angel]

Wrong. Meat contains ALL essential proteins that otherwise you'd need 5 diff. beans and lentils to compensate for. Grow anemic on your own time, don't give me this crap.



For the average.... below average person. The average ATHLETE needs to consume 1.5 grams of protein for every lbs he or she weighs. You cant get that from a veggi diet. The most you'll manage to do is give yourself a legume-induced diaharrea.



..... Uhhh I never said stop eating fruits, they are just as important, but so is MEAT.



ahahahahahahaha ok, I think I've read enough... seriously, stop taking propaganda from Veggi-Nazi websites.

My "egotistical idiot" got his info from much more reliable sources than you.
well eating meat is so essential...then what u will start eating ur sacred animal....u will start neglecting ur religion ...or u will not abide to ur religion.......thats not fair. COW BOY.....

[desi_gunda]

why is ur DAD butcher??? or is he workin in some muslim restaurant....leave these bloody pretends...u should not eat..and tell ur father the same......

I have given the reason, which I dont plan on typing again. U found that post, find my reason as well before posting.

[typeOnegative]

why is ur DAD butcher??? or is he workin in some muslim restaurant....leave these bloody pretends...u should not eat..and tell ur father the same......


Ewwwww ....

Hyper-reaction is not good to read.

[Nirmzz]

Our bodies were DESIGNED to consume meat, we are OMNIVORES. And unless you're on your way to attaining Nirvana as we speak, you're still just a human, you're still bound by your instincts however you may want to deny it. I've already said that I don't eat much beef/pork, so the corporations thing is a more of a nonissue. But if it were, I would say, that the animal is having a perfect life. They don't know that they are going to die, they feel no fear. I've also seen how animals are slaughtered. They are beheaded so quickly that they die before they even know that they're dead. No pain, no mess. [And yes, I still take time at supper to thank the animal spirit for giving me it's life]. As far as a 'life of suffering' is concerned, they are allowed to free roam on the range, and they are fed to fatness. The human equivalent would be to have a person basically be waited on hand and foot 24/7. I personally wouldn't mind that, and, then, at the prime of my life, they kill me off quickly, painlessly, so that I don't have to go through the weakness and pain and bullshit that comes with old age.


http://maddox.xmission.com/grill.html

http://www.wildlifedamagecontrol.com/animalrights/leastharm.htm


Side note: I prefer wild game [deer, etc.] to domestic livestock anyway...


Could not have placed it better myself. Just remember pplz the circle of life dissipates our body to be turned into soil and nutrients for grass or plants to be consumed by an anther creature after we die. Life goes on people. Simple saying "only after humans were born did society was born, it was not born before humans" so these are only rules we placed around ourselves to control us from wiping out too many species of animals. We play a crucial part in the ecosystem and in are in the top of the food chain. Every heritage of human race in the world has it own beliefs but life has changed to suggest that if you are a Hindu you can’t eat beef or pork is ethically wrong and can be disputed back in strong force. :sarb: “remember the only permanent object in life is change”

[desi_balla63]

Since I'm lazy...

What's the answer? Do most hindu people eat it or not?

[Nirmzz]

Since I'm lazy...

What's the answer? Do most hindu people eat it or not?



lolz :thumbrigh

[kurupzion]

Why don't you try reading it.
i have it in front of me please tell me where?

[Cunard]

Since I'm lazy...

What's the answer? Do most hindu people eat it or not?


:kiss:

[desi_gunda]

Depends on the families of the individuals, if they eat it or not.

[Mr.GQ-007]

Depends on the families of the individuals, if they eat it or not.

in a way that is the answer because if u are Hindu and follow traditions, culture, rites etc, you woundnt eat meat at all, and i guess there are some Hindu's who eat and go about there lives with religion and etc, to me i think it is basically there choice as it goes with many other religions. :rolleyes: :sarb: :)

[kartiknigam]

I hope u all had read the Animal Life Cycle in ur school time science book ie.
ant--fly--frog--snake--tiger-----and so on.

And i think eating meant is a normal phenomina.

But as an Kayastha Hindu ........ I can eat on Chikan, Goat & fish nothing else.

[hindu84]

never eaten no beef... dont want to... infact... never eaten meat ever... never will..

anyone here in the UK here about that guy who ate other people in his house?

what you guys think of that? feel hungry?

[Nirmzz]

never eaten no beef... dont want to... infact... never eaten meat ever... never will..

anyone here in the UK here about that guy who ate other people in his house?

what you guys think of that? feel hungry?


i heard the german case of this idiot who fetish is to eat other people, chops up the bodies and stores it in his fridge and there is dumb fuk, that he meet over the internet and agreed that the idiot can eat his body and he tied up him up and choped his penis and fryed it and they both ate it and he died of blood loss. 2 weeks later he almost fully consumed him YUK!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ewwwwwwww what do you think of that! lolz :eek: :eek: :eek:

Source national geo channel

[Got Lassi]

yah they showed some like taiwan or vietnam some country guy ate his own penis ... :rolleyes: :eek:

[desi_gunda]

The case of the german guy is pretty famous. The german band Rammestein even made a song in relation to that "Mein Teil".

[sexykuri01]

yea am not a devout hindu but i dont eat beef

not cos of hinduism but cos of indian culture, its been mentioned before, how our ancestors were helped by cows ploughing fields, providing milk, cheese, transportation, during hard times

people confuse it to be a hindu "belief" so to speak although it is mainly hindus who respect this custom

btw i reckon the milk thing was more to do with the properties of the stone the murtis were carved from - didn't they prove that? there are lots of other 'true miracles' that have happened though

[desi_gunda]

The Shivling is always washed only with Cow-Milk.

[Got Lassi]

I havent been to india in soooo long just wandering since its becoming such a huge economical country and being more like western cultures are they selling beef there cause that would be stupid.

[desi_gunda]

They've always sold beef there.

[Nationalist]

Isn't vegetarianism a legacy of Buddhism and not Hinduism, since, nowehere in the scriptures does it state that vegitarianism is good. I think Buddha advocated it when talking about ahimsa. Of course though I'm a vegitarian myself. And anyway, in Bali which is also Hindu, Hindus eat beef there all the time, so I've heard.

[Nirmzz]

Isn't vegetarianism a legacy of Buddhism and not Hinduism, since, nowehere in the scriptures does it state that vegitarianism is good. I think Buddha advocated it when talking about ahimsa. Of course though I'm a vegitarian myself. And anyway, in Bali which is also Hindu, Hindus eat beef there all the time, so I've heard.


:sarb: :eek:

[Got Lassi]

They've always sold beef there.


No not always can u get some proof plzz

[AeViS12]

ooh ooh i eat beef but i'm not hindu :rolleyes:

[paulie walnuts]

Isn't vegetarianism a legacy of Buddhism and not Hinduism, since, nowehere in the scriptures does it state that vegitarianism is good. I think Buddha advocated it when talking about ahimsa. Of course though I'm a vegitarian myself. And anyway, in Bali which is also Hindu, Hindus eat beef there all the time, so I've heard.
please do not make such confident comments when you are obviously just guessing....


From the Vedas:
Protect both our species, two-legged and four-legged. Both food and water for their needs supply. May they with us increase in stature and strength. Save us from hurt all our days, O Powers! Rig Veda Samhita 10.37.11. VE, 319

One who partakes of human flesh, the flesh of a horse or of another animal, and deprives others of milk by slaughtering cows, O King, if such a fiend does not desist by other means, then you should not hesitate to cut off his head. Rig Veda Samhita, 10.87.16, FS 90

Peaceful be the earth, peaceful the ether, peaceful heaven, peaceful the waters, peaceful the herbs, peaceful the trees. May all Gods bring me peace. May there be peace through these invocations of peace. With these invocations of peace which appease everything, I render peaceful whatever here is terrible, whatever here is cruel, whatever here is sinful. Let it become auspicious, let everything be beneficial to us. Atharva Veda Samhita 10. 191. 4

Those noble souls who practice meditation and other yogic ways, who are ever careful about all beings, who protect all animals, are the ones who are actually serious about spiritual practices. Atharva Veda Samhita 19.48.5. FS, 90

If we have injured space, the earth or heaven, or if we have offended mother or father, from that may Agni, fire of the house, absolve us and guide us safely to the world of goodness. Atharva Veda Samhita 6.120.1. VE, 636

You must not use your God-given body for killing God's creatures, whether they are human, animal or whatever. Yajur Veda Samhita 12.32. FS, 90

May all beings look at me with a friendly eye. May I do likewise, and may we all look on each other with the eyes of a friend. Yajur Veda 36.18.

Nonviolence is all the offerings. Renunciation is the priestly honorarium. The final purification is death. Thus all the Divinities are established in this body. Krishna Yajur Veda, Prana Upanishad 46-8. VE, 413-14

To the heavens be peace, to the sky and the earth; to the waters be peace, to plants and all trees; to the Gods be peace, to Brahman be peace, to all men be peace, again and again-peace also to me! O earthen vessel, strengthen me. May all beings regard me with friendly eyes! May I look upon all creatures with friendly eyes! With a friend's eye may we regard each other! Shukla Yajur Veda Samhita 36.17-18. VE, 306; 342

No pain should be caused to any created being or thing. Devikalottara agama, JAV 69-79. RM, 116

From the Mahabharata and Bhagavad Gita:

He who desires to augment his own flesh by eating the flesh of other creatures lives in misery in whatever species he may take his birth. Mahabharata, Anu. 115.47. FS, pg. 90

The purchaser of flesh performs himsa (violence) by his wealth; he who eats flesh does so by enjoying its taste; the killer does himsa by actually tying and killing the animal. Thus, there are three forms of killing: he who brings flesh or sends for it, he who cuts off the limbs of an animal, and he who purchases, sells or cooks flesh and eats it -all of these are to be considered meat-eaters. Mahabharata, Anu. 115.40. FS, pg 90

The very name of the cows is aghnya, indicating that they should never be slaughtered. Who, then could slay them? Surely, one who kills a cow or a bull commits the most heinous crime. Mahabharata, Shantiparva 262.47. FS,pg. 94

One should never do that to another which one regards as injurious to one's own self. This, in brief, is the rule of dharma. Yielding to desire and acting differently, one becomes guilty of adharma. Mahabharata 18.113.8.

Those high-souled persons who desire beauty, faultlessness of limbs, long life, understanding, mental and physical strength and memory should abstain from acts of injury. Mahabharata 18.115.8.

Ahimsa is the highest dharma. Ahimsa is the best tapas. Ahimsa is the greatest gift. Ahimsa is the highest self-control. Ahimsa is the highest sacrifice. Ahimsa is the highest power. Ahimsa is the highest friend. Ahimsa is the highest truth. Ahimsa is the highest teaching. Mahabharata 18.116.37-41.

He who sees that the Lord of all is ever the same in all that is-immortal in the field of mortality-he sees the truth. And when a man sees that the God in himself is the same God in all that is, he hurts not himself by hurting others. Then he goes, indeed, to the highest path. Bhagavad Gita 13. 27-28. BgM, pg. 101

Nonviolence, truth, freedom from anger, renunciation, serenity, aversion to fault-finding, sympathy for all beings, peace from greedy cravings, gentleness, modesty, steadiness, energy, forgiveness, fortitude, purity, a good will, freedom from pride-these belong to a man who is born for heaven. Bhagavad Gita 16.2-3. BGM, pg. 109

From Tirumantiram and other Scriptures:

Many are the lovely flowers of worship offered to the Guru, but none lovelier than non-killing. Respect for life is the highest worship, the bright lamp, the sweet garland and unwavering devotion. Tirumantiram 197

SPIRITUAL MERIT and sin are our own making. The killer of other lives is an outcast. Match your words with your conduct. Steal not, kill not, indulge not in self-praise, condemn not others to their face. Lingayat Vachanas

AHIMSA IS NOT CAUSING pain to any living being at any time through the actions of one's mind, speech or body. Sandilya Upanishad When mind stuff is firmly based in waves of ahimsa, all living beings cease their enmity in the presence of such a person. Yoga Sutras 2.35. YP, pg. 205

Those who are ignorant of real dharma and, though wicked and haughty, account themselves virtuous, kill animals without any feeling of remorse or fear of punishment. Further, in their next lives, such sinful persons will be eaten by the same creatures they have killed in this world. Shrimad Bhagavatam 11.5.4. FS, pg, 90

From the Tirukural:

Perhaps nowhere is the principle of non meat-eating so fully and eloquently expressed as in the Tirukural, written in the Tamil language by a simple weaver saint in a village near Madras over 2,000 years ago. Considered the world's greatest ethical scripture, it is sworn on in South Indian courts of law.

It is the principle of the pure in heart never to injure others, even when they themselves have been hatefully injured. What is virtuous conduct? It is never destroying life, for killing leads to every other sin. 312; 321, TW

Harming others, even enemies who harmed you unprovoked, assures incessant sorrow. The supreme principle is this: never knowingly harm any one at any time in any way. 313; 317, TW

What is the good way? It is the path that reflects on how it may avoid killing any living creature. Refrain from taking precious life from any living being, even to save your own life. 324; 327, TW

How can he practice true compassion Who eats the flesh of an animal to fatten his own flesh? TK 251, TW

Riches cannot be found in the hands of the thriftless. Nor can compassion be found in the hearts of those who eat meat. TK 252, TW

Goodness is never one with the minds of these two: one who wields a weapon and one who feasts on a creature's flesh. TK 253, TW

If you ask, "What is kindness and what is unkind?" it is not killing and killing. Thus, eating flesh is never virtuous. TK 254, TW

Life is perpetuated by not eating meat. The.The clenched jaws of hell hold those who do. TK 255, TW

If the world did not purchase and consume meat, there would be none to slaughter and offer meat for sale. TK 256, TW

When a man realizes that meat is the butchered flesh of another creature, he must abstain from eating it. TK 257, TW

Perceptive souls who have abandoned passion will not feed on flesh abandoned by life. TK 258, TW

Greater than a thousand ghee offerings consumed in sacrificial fires is to not sacrifice and consume any living creature. TK 259, TW

All that lives will press palms together in prayerful adoration of those who refuse to slaughter and savor meat. TK 260, TW

[Vishnu1988]

As far as i no dear, there aint a seperate rule for Brahmans and another for the rest...... its just that they follow it far more strictly then others.

Like the guy above said, there are 3 types of food, they just stick to Satvick thats all.

I agree...the rules are for hindusim in general...but brahmins tend to be more hardcore hindu...and go by the rules...mainly because their ancestors were hindu priests...

[Vishnu1988]

I havent been to india in soooo long just wandering since its becoming such a huge economical country and being more like western cultures are they selling beef there cause that would be stupid.

yes they are....there is a large muslim population present there...so they sell beef....

[crookedr]

I was just wandering, i dont by the way.



t-bone steak... mmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

[Ms.Patel]

ill eat a cow netime... even if ish still alive - mmmm :D but then again - im not hindu nemore... hehe

[hindu_Student]

please do not make such confident comments when you are obviously just guessing....


From the Vedas:
Protect both our species, two-legged and four-legged. Both food and water for their needs supply. May they with us increase in stature and strength. Save us from hurt all our days, O Powers! Rig Veda Samhita 10.37.11. VE, 319

One who partakes of human flesh, the flesh of a horse or of another animal, and deprives others of milk by slaughtering cows, O King, if such a fiend does not desist by other means, then you should not hesitate to cut off his head. Rig Veda Samhita, 10.87.16, FS 90

Peaceful be the earth, peaceful the ether, peaceful heaven, peaceful the waters, peaceful the herbs, peaceful the trees. May all Gods bring me peace. May there be peace through these invocations of peace. With these invocations of peace which appease everything, I render peaceful whatever here is terrible, whatever here is cruel, whatever here is sinful. Let it become auspicious, let everything be beneficial to us. Atharva Veda Samhita 10. 191. 4

Those noble souls who practice meditation and other yogic ways, who are ever careful about all beings, who protect all animals, are the ones who are actually serious about spiritual practices. Atharva Veda Samhita 19.48.5. FS, 90

If we have injured space, the earth or heaven, or if we have offended mother or father, from that may Agni, fire of the house, absolve us and guide us safely to the world of goodness. Atharva Veda Samhita 6.120.1. VE, 636

You must not use your God-given body for killing God's creatures, whether they are human, animal or whatever. Yajur Veda Samhita 12.32. FS, 90

May all beings look at me with a friendly eye. May I do likewise, and may we all look on each other with the eyes of a friend. Yajur Veda 36.18.

Nonviolence is all the offerings. Renunciation is the priestly honorarium. The final purification is death. Thus all the Divinities are established in this body. Krishna Yajur Veda, Prana Upanishad 46-8. VE, 413-14

To the heavens be peace, to the sky and the earth; to the waters be peace, to plants and all trees; to the Gods be peace, to Brahman be peace, to all men be peace, again and again-peace also to me! O earthen vessel, strengthen me. May all beings regard me with friendly eyes! May I look upon all creatures with friendly eyes! With a friend's eye may we regard each other! Shukla Yajur Veda Samhita 36.17-18. VE, 306; 342

No pain should be caused to any created being or thing. Devikalottara agama, JAV 69-79. RM, 116

From the Mahabharata and Bhagavad Gita:

He who desires to augment his own flesh by eating the flesh of other creatures lives in misery in whatever species he may take his birth. Mahabharata, Anu. 115.47. FS, pg. 90

The purchaser of flesh performs himsa (violence) by his wealth; he who eats flesh does so by enjoying its taste; the killer does himsa by actually tying and killing the animal. Thus, there are three forms of killing: he who brings flesh or sends for it, he who cuts off the limbs of an animal, and he who purchases, sells or cooks flesh and eats it -all of these are to be considered meat-eaters. Mahabharata, Anu. 115.40. FS, pg 90

The very name of the cows is aghnya, indicating that they should never be slaughtered. Who, then could slay them? Surely, one who kills a cow or a bull commits the most heinous crime. Mahabharata, Shantiparva 262.47. FS,pg. 94

One should never do that to another which one regards as injurious to one's own self. This, in brief, is the rule of dharma. Yielding to desire and acting differently, one becomes guilty of adharma. Mahabharata 18.113.8.

Those high-souled persons who desire beauty, faultlessness of limbs, long life, understanding, mental and physical strength and memory should abstain from acts of injury. Mahabharata 18.115.8.

Ahimsa is the highest dharma. Ahimsa is the best tapas. Ahimsa is the greatest gift. Ahimsa is the highest self-control. Ahimsa is the highest sacrifice. Ahimsa is the highest power. Ahimsa is the highest friend. Ahimsa is the highest truth. Ahimsa is the highest teaching. Mahabharata 18.116.37-41.

He who sees that the Lord of all is ever the same in all that is-immortal in the field of mortality-he sees the truth. And when a man sees that the God in himself is the same God in all that is, he hurts not himself by hurting others. Then he goes, indeed, to the highest path. Bhagavad Gita 13. 27-28. BgM, pg. 101

Nonviolence, truth, freedom from anger, renunciation, serenity, aversion to fault-finding, sympathy for all beings, peace from greedy cravings, gentleness, modesty, steadiness, energy, forgiveness, fortitude, purity, a good will, freedom from pride-these belong to a man who is born for heaven. Bhagavad Gita 16.2-3. BGM, pg. 109

From Tirumantiram and other Scriptures:

Many are the lovely flowers of worship offered to the Guru, but none lovelier than non-killing. Respect for life is the highest worship, the bright lamp, the sweet garland and unwavering devotion. Tirumantiram 197

SPIRITUAL MERIT and sin are our own making. The killer of other lives is an outcast. Match your words with your conduct. Steal not, kill not, indulge not in self-praise, condemn not others to their face. Lingayat Vachanas

AHIMSA IS NOT CAUSING pain to any living being at any time through the actions of one's mind, speech or body. Sandilya Upanishad When mind stuff is firmly based in waves of ahimsa, all living beings cease their enmity in the presence of such a person. Yoga Sutras 2.35. YP, pg. 205

Those who are ignorant of real dharma and, though wicked and haughty, account themselves virtuous, kill animals without any feeling of remorse or fear of punishment. Further, in their next lives, such sinful persons will be eaten by the same creatures they have killed in this world. Shrimad Bhagavatam 11.5.4. FS, pg, 90

From the Tirukural:

Perhaps nowhere is the principle of non meat-eating so fully and eloquently expressed as in the Tirukural, written in the Tamil language by a simple weaver saint in a village near Madras over 2,000 years ago. Considered the world's greatest ethical scripture, it is sworn on in South Indian courts of law.

It is the principle of the pure in heart never to injure others, even when they themselves have been hatefully injured. What is virtuous conduct? It is never destroying life, for killing leads to every other sin. 312; 321, TW

Harming others, even enemies who harmed you unprovoked, assures incessant sorrow. The supreme principle is this: never knowingly harm any one at any time in any way. 313; 317, TW

What is the good way? It is the path that reflects on how it may avoid killing any living creature. Refrain from taking precious life from any living being, even to save your own life. 324; 327, TW

How can he practice true compassion Who eats the flesh of an animal to fatten his own flesh? TK 251, TW

Riches cannot be found in the hands of the thriftless. Nor can compassion be found in the hearts of those who eat meat. TK 252, TW

Goodness is never one with the minds of these two: one who wields a weapon and one who feasts on a creature's flesh. TK 253, TW

If you ask, "What is kindness and what is unkind?" it is not killing and killing. Thus, eating flesh is never virtuous. TK 254, TW

Life is perpetuated by not eating meat. The.The clenched jaws of hell hold those who do. TK 255, TW

If the world did not purchase and consume meat, there would be none to slaughter and offer meat for sale. TK 256, TW

When a man realizes that meat is the butchered flesh of another creature, he must abstain from eating it. TK 257, TW

Perceptive souls who have abandoned passion will not feed on flesh abandoned by life. TK 258, TW

Greater than a thousand ghee offerings consumed in sacrificial fires is to not sacrifice and consume any living creature. TK 259, TW

All that lives will press palms together in prayerful adoration of those who refuse to slaughter and savor meat. TK 260, TW

nice info