350Z Vs. Rx8

[desiballla2k5]

ahaha.....

which one u guyz prefer??
The price ranges are around the same....350 or RX8
i personally think that the RX8 is overrated! 350Z is pure speed
and performance!! Its gotz the looks too!!

[no_boundaries]

i'd take the 350Z.....the one thing i liek about the rx-8 is the interior....it looks so damn good

[desiballla2k5]

yaar tats tru i test drove tat shit!! ahahaha... not worth it... its like 240 HP!! -.-.... Z is a killa!!

[himynamesmo]

rx8 any day.

[desiballla2k5]

yaar have u test drove 350?

[xtcshri2222]

i'ed take the 350z, but see to many ppl with um

[desiballla2k5]

ya.. but i havent seen any hooked up yet tho...

[sKyLiNe]

the RX-8 is almost half the price of a 350Z. the 350 is by far the better of the two but I think the RX8 has a better body. the 350 is definitely a big competitor for cars of all price ranges...it's doin a great job. hail Nissan

[xplicitdreamz]

i'd take the 350Z because of the power...Mazda was buying back the RX8's because they put out false HP output figures

[sKyLiNe]

hahahah u serious? so wut r the new specs???

[desiballla2k5]

i'd take the 350Z because of the power...Mazda was buying back the RX8's because they put out false HP output figures

ya my bro told me bout that....People did the HP tests after they bought it.. and i wasnt as they said it was... RX-8 is over priced.. yaar it kinda looks nice at first... but then after a while it starts lookin ghey! -.-

[desiballla2k5]

hahahah u serious? so wut r the new specs???

thye havent given them out i dunt think..

[sKyLiNe]

damn, that's so pathetic haha. isnt the RX-8 $22k or so? Hell...I'd definitely get one. I think the 350 is too fast for me. Sad to think that my boxster would actually beat the RX8

[desiballla2k5]

damn, that's so pathetic haha. isnt the RX-8 $22k or so? Hell...I'd definitely get one. I think the 350 is too fast for me. Sad to think that my boxster would actually beat the RX8

no man.. are u sure its 22K?? leme check! :)

[desiballla2k5]

From Kbb.com :D

2004 Mazda RX-8--ROTARY (1.3 Liter) Coupe 4D (6-Spd.)

PRICING
Base Retail * $27,200
Base Invoice † $25,179

GENERAL INFO
Country of Assembly -
Country of Origin Japan
EPA Class -
Body Style Coupe
Doors 4
Seating Capacity 4

POWERTRAIN
Engine Code / Name -
VIN -
Cylinders -
Displacement 1.3
Bore x Stroke -
Compression Ratio 10.0
Fuel Type G
Fuel Induction MPI
Valve Train -
Valves Per Cylinder -
Total Number Valves -
Horsepower 247 @ 8500 RPM
Torque 159 @ 5500 RPM
Max Eng. Speed 9000 RPM
Transmission 6 Speed Manual
Drivetrain Rear Wheel Drive
EPA City 18 MPG
EPA Hwy 24 MPG

SAFETY
Airbag Driver
Passenger
Side
Child Door Locks Not Available
Child Seat Anchors Standard
Integrated Child Seat Not Available
Alarm System Standard
Engine Immobilizer Standard

CRASH TEST
Driver Front No Data
Passenger Front No Data
Front Side No Data
Rear Side No Data
Rollover Rating No Data

DIMENSIONS
Head Room: Front 38.2 inches
Head Room: Rear 36.8 inches
Leg Room: Front 42.7 inches
Leg Room: Rear 32.2 inches
Shoulder Rm: Front 54.9 inches
Shoulder Rm: Rear 54.9 inches
EPA Passenger -
EPA Trunk or Cargo 7.6 cu.ft.
EPA Total Interior -

WARRANTY
Basic 4 years or
50000 miles
Powertrain 4 years or
50000 miles
Corrosion/Rust Thru 5 years or
Unlimited miles

FEATURES
2W Anti-Lock Brakes Not Available
4W Anti-Lock Brakes Standard
Front Air Conditioning Standard
Front & Rear Air Conditioning Not Available
Cruise Control Standard
AM/FM Radio Standard
Cassette Optional
Compact Disc Standard
CD Changer Optional
Premium Radio Optional
DVD Entertainment System Not Available
Cup Holder Standard
Leather Optional
Navigation System Optional
Privacy Glass Not Available
Hands Free Phone Not Available
Power Locks Standard
Power Outlets Standard
Power Mirrors Standard
Remote Mirrors Not Available
Power Seat Optional
Dual Power Seats Not Available
Folding Rear Seat Not Available
Moon Roof Optional
Sun Roof Not Available
Remote Keyless Entry Standard
Luggage Rack Not Available
Rear Window Defroster Standard
Tilt Wheel Standard
Tachometer Standard
Traction Control Optional
Power Windows Standard
Upgraded Wheels Not Available
Power Steering Standard

SPECIFICATIONS
Wheel Base 106.4 inches
Overall Length 174.3 inches
Width 69.7 inches
Height 52.8 inches
Curb Weight 3029 lbs.
Tires / Wheel Size 225/45R18
Rear Tires / Wheel Size -
Spare Tire -
Wheel Type Aluminum Alloy
Turning Radius 34.8
Brakes: Front ABS
Disc
Brakes: Rear ABS
Disc
Fuel Capacity 15.9
Axle Ratio 4.44
Ground Clearance 4.7
GVWR -
Maximum Towing -
Transfer Case -
Payload Base Capacity -
Truck Bed Volume -

[desiballla2k5]

2004 Nissan 350Z--V6 (3.5 Liter) 56064 Coupe 2D (6-Spd.)
PRICING
Base Retail * $26,910
Base Invoice † $25,203

GENERAL INFO
Country of Assembly Japan
Country of Origin Japan
EPA Class Two Seater
Body Style Hatchback Coupe
Doors 2
Seating Capacity 2

POWERTRAIN
Engine Code / Name VQ35DE
VIN -
Cylinders V6
Displacement 3.5
Bore x Stroke 3.76 x 3.21
Compression Ratio 10.3
Fuel Type G
Fuel Induction SFI
Valve Train DOHC
Valves Per Cylinder 4
Total Number Valves 24
Horsepower 287 @ 6200 RPM
Torque 274 @ 4800 RPM
Max Eng. Speed 6600 RPM
Transmission 6 Speed Manual
Drivetrain Rear Wheel Drive
EPA City 20 MPG
EPA Hwy 26 MPG

2004 Nissan 350Z ENTHUSIAST--V6 (3.5 Liter) 56164 Coupe 2D (6-Spd.)

PRICING
Base Retail * $28,890
Base Invoice † $26,759

GENERAL INFO
Country of Assembly Japan
Country of Origin Japan
EPA Class Two Seater
Body Style Hatchback Coupe
Doors 2
Seating Capacity 2

POWERTRAIN
Engine Code / Name VQ35DE
VIN -
Cylinders V6
Displacement 3.5
Bore x Stroke 3.76 x 3.21
Compression Ratio 10.3
Fuel Type G
Fuel Induction SFI
Valve Train DOHC
Valves Per Cylinder 4
Total Number Valves 24
Horsepower 287 @ 6200 RPM
Torque 274 @ 4800 RPM
Max Eng. Speed 6600 RPM
Transmission 6 Speed Manual
Drivetrain Rear Wheel Drive
EPA City 20 MPG
EPA Hwy 26 MPG


You See Yaar... there isnt really big price diff between the RX8 and the 350Z

[desiballla2k5]

Theres like 5 or 6 Models.. for the 350Z.. They Performance on is the most expensive.. tat is at... 31,000

[xtcshri2222]

should go to a import show the last one i was at there were more 350z then civics :(

[desiballla2k5]

should go to a import show the last one i was at there were more 350z then civics :(

are u fo realz?? aahaha in nj rite?

[sKyLiNe]

no, new york. if u've never seen hooked up 350z's, u probably never heard of GReddy.

[xplicitdreamz]

Civics don't get the respect they deserve because there are so many dumbasses driving around with stickers, nasty ass paintjobs, riced out mufflers and altezzas on em

go easy on emmmmmmmm :cry:

[no_boundaries]

^^^civics dont deserve any respect.....who wants a 1.8 120 hp 4-cylindder car?

[sKyLiNe]

i admit most civics out there r riced out as hell n it's the drivers that gave the car a bad name unfortunately. but u have to admit, even tho it's an economy/fuel efficient car, it's very easy to customize and there r more parts available for it than for any other car out there. and to top it off, they're cheap. that's y most civics r riced out cuz ppl that dont have any money buy em n since they're so damn broke, they buy cheap parts for em too.

of course, there's always the other remaining civic owners that buy civics to actually tune them up, not cuz it's all they can afford. there r some plenty fast civics out there... everynight 7 days a week, all the local racers/ricers from the surrounding towns here meet up @ Dunkin Donuts @ like 10:30PM for the whole nite. There's all types of cars that show yo, Saleens, Supras, Bimmers, Civics, Integra Type Rs, u name it. There r like 4 Civics there that run 10-12 seconds!! The reason Honda refuses to put larger engines into Civics is cuz they simply dont need it. They're really light cars and throwin in 5.0 Liter engines would be worthless...of course, that'd change the entire car.

The Civic TypeR should be released in the States soon, it's an Si beater. (btw, wasn't the first VTEC put inside a Civic?)

[eckochic212]

tru desis own hondas or civics
my mom and my dad test drove the Z personally i like the ZX its a classic and this kid in my school has one but there's always something wrong with it...the 8 is nice too...there's this fob that sits in front of me in art...man he knows a lot about cars for a fob..i thought they were all duffers but he's pretty educated...we always get in arguments tho...especially wen he sez 280 rsx lol poor kid...its all good...hey my car has so much trunk space that 2 guys from my school fit in there...notice how i digress...yeah so ZX all the way....280ZX is nice too...

[no_boundaries]

sorry......but i jus had to post this :lol:

http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/370000-370999/370588_37.jpg

[sKyLiNe]

LMFAO :lol: :lol: :lol:

[no_boundaries]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2432601336&category=62 56




i know you all want to bid on that..... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[sKyLiNe]

i wonder how much horse he's pushin? $10k seems a lil too low for that...i like the "mods" he has...very um...er....original :lol:

[no_boundaries]

gotta love the 9 inch exhaust and removing the rear doors to make it lighter for racing.......hahahahhha

[sKyLiNe]

lmfao man....i saved that pic haha

[xtcshri2222]

B4 everyone gose cracking on civics their nice cars, their just very abundant an the fact you can buy apc parts from pepboy's for it, just kinda gave it a bad wrap, there some supper Civics out there that i'ed deffinetly drive.

[sKyLiNe]

dammit shri...::sniff::...i knew u'd come to help me out ::sniff::

[desiballla2k5]

no, new york. if u've never seen hooked up 350z's, u probably never heard of GReddy.


aahahaha.. yaar ive been out of the import seen for a while... i got no new magazines comin in the mail.. i dunt go to ne showz with my iknow... ahahhaa .. my Bro has a Greddy Exhaust

[desiballla2k5]

WoW!!!! Forget the 350Z I want the Honda!!!!! :)

[xplicitdreamz]

^^^civics dont deserve any respect.....who wants a 1.8 120 hp 4-cylindder car?

man i swear u r ignorant...you know in your mind that these lil cars will whoop ur lil punk domestic ass...don't talk shit unless you own a car that will back up your word...shut up till then

ma bad for trippin but thatz how i gotta do it when you start talkin shit

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BUY A DOMESTIC...GO AHEAD
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/386000-386999/386903_15.jpg

http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/386000-386999/386903_16.jpg

[no_boundaries]

y u gettin so worked up over it?........just cuz i offended u over ur civic?......who cares??????..its a damn internet message board

[gt_sweetness]

y u gettin so worked up over it?........just cuz i offended u over ur civic?......who cares??????..its a damn internet message board


ya dude, chill!!!! 8) just a stupid internet msg board....

[no_boundaries]

http://images.lamer.net/arguing.jpg

[no_boundaries]

see what my domestic does to your import: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://www.wreckedexotics.com/hummer/hummer_050602_03.jpg

http://www.wreckedexotics.com/hummer/hummer_050602_02.jpg

http://www.wreckedexotics.com/hummer/hummer_050602_01.jpg

[gt_sweetness]

so much hatred!!!!!
where is the loveeeeeeeeeeeeeee?!?!?!??!!?!??!
wat has the world come too??

[eckochic212]

imports r posh

[xplicitdreamz]

ma bad for gettin worked up but i love my car just like you love yours...and its not YOUR domestic...you dont own a hummer so stfu :D

and here is what happens to your domestic POS when you try to show off
http://sajeeps.billmcgaw.com/video/KilledIT_1.wmv

there goes the tie-rod

[Samirr76]

How did we get from RX-8s to Civics?? :roll:

I would take the RX-8 just because it is far more technologically advanced, handles better, and doesnt suffer from "corner cutting syndrome" that Nissan has been experiencing for the past 10 years. Nissan quality and design has consistantly gone downhill since like the early 90's.

[taarzen]

Depends on if you will be modifying it or not. 350Z already has turbo kits out with a massive aftermarket support. There's a reason RX8 is cheaper, the rotary never did work well with turbocharging in RX7 either. I'm sure you'll see some aftermarket support for it but the 350Z is way ahead in the game already. I think its a safe conclusion that rotories are not for everyone.

[JunGLe ChiKEn]

S2k > RX-7 > 350Z > RX-8

[Samirr76]

Depends on if you will be modifying it or not. 350Z already has turbo kits out with a massive aftermarket support. There's a reason RX8 is cheaper, the rotary never did work well with turbocharging in RX7 either. I'm sure you'll see some aftermarket support for it but the 350Z is way ahead in the game already. I think its a safe conclusion that rotories are not for everyone.

Yup, rotaries are not for everyone, but they can make INSANE amounts of power from a very small engine with the right equipment. They actually do very well with forced induction if you keep up the maintenance on them. There isnt much aftermarket for the RX-8 because its so new. The engine in the 350Z has been around for a while. I saw an RX-8 today and it was beautiful. You dont see that many good looking cars today. Its very proportionate, artistic, and all the curves are right. Cars like the 350Z have all these random styling cues like the stupid doorhandles dont match the car at all. Thats what I'm talkin about.

[taarzen]

Yup, rotaries are not for everyone, but they can make INSANE amounts of power from a very small engine with the right equipment. They actually do very well with forced induction if you keep up the maintenance on them.

Mazda had big reliability problems with FDC3, this is the only time they turbocharged the rotry in RX7. That motor is extremely reliable when not turbocharged. Finally in RX8 they ditched turbocharging for the sake of reliability.

Also they don't really make huge hp. But to me huge is 700+ rwhp which is very doable on some motors, ie 2JZ and VG30 etc. What makes RX7s fast even with lower hp is the weight/power ratio. A 500rwhp rx7 is about as fast as a 650rwhp Supra. But from what I've seen the RX7 guys keep going through motors even at that power level, they usually end up switching to a piston engine. There's a guy on rx7club.com that went through 5 rotory motors before he gave up and switched to SR20DET. The car ran 11s very reliably on lightly modified SR20.

EDIT: Just found out that RX7 with the SR20 is in 10s now. Here's the video:

http://www.tonyw.net/gainesville/shaun.zip

93 base with a red top Sr20det motor is basically stock all it has is a Greddy head gasket, ARP head studs, and HKS cams... It makes 501.3 hp at 26 psi....And a 62-1 turbo.....

[taarzen]

How did we get from RX-8s to Civics?? :roll:

I would take the RX-8 just because it is far more technologically advanced, handles better, and doesnt suffer from "corner cutting syndrome" that Nissan has been experiencing for the past 10 years. Nissan quality and design has consistantly gone downhill since like the early 90's.

There is no such thing as "corner cutting syndrome". You must be talking about Z32s handling capabilites for the past 10 years? Z32(last Z model) has only existed for 1990-1996. That's 6 years. It was also CarAndDriver's top sports car of the year for five years in a row out of those 6. I don't understand how the quality could have gone downhill for the past 10 years if they kept winning the awards for exactly the opposite. Their engines are good for 800+hp on STOCK motor very much like the mkiv.

Lastly, 350Z is siginificantly ligher than Z32 and its specifically designed for roadcourse. Hence the track model specs. Its handling characterstics are completely different than Z32. I've heard of a minor understeer from some die hard roadcourse drivers but that's nothing a couple hundred bucks can't fix. To folks who only drive on the street will most likely never experience this. All in all, 350Z is considered the easiest car to drive to its potential on a roadcourse. :-)

[maharaja]

How did we get from RX-8s to Civics?? :roll:

I would take the RX-8 just because it is far more technologically advanced, handles better, and doesnt suffer from "corner cutting syndrome" that Nissan has been experiencing for the past 10 years. Nissan quality and design has consistantly gone downhill since like the early 90's.

[fijianprince]

xtcshri2222 dude i love those z's you have in the sig. that car is just sick!!. personally id take a 350z over a rx-8. rotary is just a difficult engine to work with but can make INSANE amounts of power. id say with suspension the rx-8 handles better. come on 1.3 ltr rotary this car prob weighs nothing. so it has to handle sick!! but give me a 350z with a t51r turbo upgrade. tein suspension and volk te-37 bronze wheels. ill be happy. oh and about 450-500rwhp is more then enough for me :)