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IPunjabi.Blood
January 3rd, 2005, 02:57 PM
It seems that a number of ne studies have come out and shown that "Fat Food" is to blame for us being fat, because they have unhealthy food, and focus marketing on children. I am insane to think that this is rediculus. Isnt the real issues here self control and our culture telling us that we are not responsible for the problems in our lives? I could be way off on this one, and wanted to hear the various opinions on this.

xbadkarmax
January 3rd, 2005, 03:00 PM
It seems that a number of ne studies have come out and shown that "Fat Food" is to blame for us being fat, because they have unhealthy food, and focus marketing on children. I am insane to think that this is rediculus. Isnt the real issues here self control and our culture telling us that we are not responsible for the problems in our lives? I could be way off on this one, and wanted to hear the various opinions on this.


hell ya, its all about our own self control.. with all these evils about food and temptation.. if you have control over your ownself from food then it shows alot about a persons personality .. like their willpower, self control, self respect, and etc..

considering more then 60% of americans are overweight, that must mean we are all cattle to american industries.. and we fall right in.. im glad im not in that percentile..

Khusum
January 3rd, 2005, 03:00 PM
It seems that a number of ne studies have come out and shown that "Fat Food" is to blame for us being fat, because they have unhealthy food, and focus marketing on children. I am insane to think that this is rediculus. Isnt the real issues here self control and our culture telling us that we are not responsible for the problems in our lives? I could be way off on this one, and wanted to hear the various opinions on this.u should see that movie Supersize Me.

its all about how terrible Macdonalds is for ur body. this man ate nothin but macdonalds for 30 days n he got dead sick & fat from eating it.

never again will i do fast food more than once a month.

methodman535
January 3rd, 2005, 03:00 PM
What are you trying to say? That people dont HAVE to eat fast food and the real problem is they do eat it?

bigjoe
January 3rd, 2005, 03:02 PM
fast food aint to blame at all , no one forced them to eat the fast food , its their own decision .
i get pissed when peopl cry n moan bout how fat they are n blamin it on others , its their own god damn fault....

IPunjabi.Blood
January 3rd, 2005, 03:06 PM
What are you trying to say? That people dont HAVE to eat fast food and the real problem is they do eat it?

What in the world you are talking about?

Aurovon
January 3rd, 2005, 03:08 PM
What in the world you are talking about?
LOL

and yessssssssss dumb americans.

pnp366
January 3rd, 2005, 03:12 PM
OMG can you really control yourself? you pass mcd in a mall the smell, man, hooooweee

thats strong

ORaNGe dAsY
January 3rd, 2005, 03:15 PM
Fast food is everywhere and so it's unavoidable. It's what ppl think is convenient and easy and blah blah blah, they just don't realize what it's doing to them until they see the results themselves. :no:

IPunjabi.Blood
January 3rd, 2005, 03:16 PM
u should see that movie Supersize Me.

its all about how terrible Macdonalds is for ur body. this man ate nothin but macdonalds for 30 days n he got dead sick & fat from eating it.

never again will i do fast food more than once a month.

That's a movie you moron. The guy ate nothing but macdonalds for 30 days, but we don't do that kind of shit in our real lives. Personally I think our obesity is due to our lack of self-control. And our unhealtiness due to our lack of discipline.

I've been able to drop 20 popunds - and it was quite simple. I went to diet sodas as opposed to regular sodas, and I added a salad for lunch a couple of times a week(discipline and able to control the urges). I've dropped down to about 220 as opposed to around 240. The goal is to be at 210 or so.

I still enjoy Mickey D's. I still enjoy a Classic Triple with cheese from Wendy's. Could you do me a favor and please come up with something other than nanny-state Naderite BS?

ShivaChrist
January 3rd, 2005, 03:17 PM
It seems that a number of ne studies have come out and shown that "Fat Food" is to blame for us being fat, because they have unhealthy food, and focus marketing on children. I am insane to think that this is rediculus. Isnt the real issues here self control and our culture telling us that we are not responsible for the problems in our lives? I could be way off on this one, and wanted to hear the various opinions on this.

Its that plus cars. Seriously... I was in Europe and I didn't see as many fat people. They walk, take the tramways... after a nice dinner you walk back home or walk to the tramlines...

It's fun, it digests food, and helps weight loss.

sensousglitter
January 3rd, 2005, 03:19 PM
The question is, where does the fine line between self-control and corporate responsibility lie?
Of course eating these food will make you fatter, but don't blame the companies, they're only out to make money like the rest of us. But these companies also never tell us the whole truth; if these companies provided consumers with a nutrition guide, it would allow us to make the right choice.
So it's really a matter of misinformation and self control really.

IPunjabi.Blood
January 3rd, 2005, 03:20 PM
OMG can you really control yourself? you pass mcd in a mall the smell, man, hooooweee

thats strong

Isnt the real issues here self control? Per you, It would be hard for you to avoid the smell of Mickey D's. Is it really that hard to control the urges?

sensousglitter
January 3rd, 2005, 03:23 PM
Self-control is the key word.
Anyone can manage to do it. Those law cases on McDonalds with those two girls, absolutely ridiculous. They're trying to blame their short-comings on other people.

IPunjabi.Blood
January 3rd, 2005, 03:28 PM
Self-control is the key word.
Anyone can manage to do it. Those law cases on McDonalds with those two girls, absolutely ridiculous. They're trying to blame their short-comings on other people.

Exactly. Some say the solution is education. But every smoker in america knows that smoking is bad for you, and that it is bad for those around you. Just like every person that eats poorly knows that what they eat is bad for them. People are already educated to the fact, there has to be more to it than just education.

IPunjabi.Blood
January 3rd, 2005, 03:32 PM
Fast food is everywhere and so it's unavoidable. It's what ppl think is convenient and easy and blah blah blah, they just don't realize what it's doing to them until they see the results themselves. :no:

I think exercise has alot to do with the obesity issue as well. You can eat practically whatever you want and not become fat as long as you are willing to do what it takes to burn those calories off. But people have become so lazy. And kids are no exception. Look at how many kids today who almost never go outside to play. They just stay inside the house all day playing video games and surfing the net and eating cheeseburgers and drinking 20 oz. cokes and their parents don't care.

The Desi Muggle
January 3rd, 2005, 03:35 PM
It's not just education, or the lack thereof.....There's a high correlation between weight and socioeconomic status......Meaning that generally people from a poor background tend to weigh more. The reason why many people tend to blame fast food is because it is cheaper than healthier food....so people flock to it, and go overboard on it, in attempts to save money, and thats when they gain all that weight, after not working it off afterwards.

ORaNGe dAsY
January 3rd, 2005, 03:39 PM
I think exercise has alot to do with the obesity issue as well. You can eat practically whatever you want and not become fat as long as you are willing to do what it takes to burn those calories off. But people have become so lazy. And kids are no exception. Look at how many kids today who almost never go outside to play. They just stay inside the house all day playing video games and surfing the net and eating cheeseburgers and drinking 20 oz. cokes and their parents don't care.
Exactamaly, most ppl have become lazy and they forget that they should take care of themselves. If parents don't care, then their kids most likely won't either. The parents are the ones who can put their kids into different activities to keep them physically fit and active or listen to their kids when they want to do something. Ppl would rather eat out then make something at home and be really lazy and not exercise, and some just don't realize that eating out has so many severe side effects, you're wasting away so much money and time. It's also mostly about what's convenient since most parents work and don't have time to make food at home because the come home late and all that, their kids get used to eating out and eating fast food and that's what they tend to carry on. It's until they realize that it's become so bad that they decide to do something but then sometimes it's too late. :no:

IPunjabi.Blood
January 3rd, 2005, 03:44 PM
It's not just education, or the lack thereof.....There's a high correlation between weight and socioeconomic status......Meaning that generally people from a poor background tend to weigh more. The reason why many people tend to blame fast food is because it is cheaper than healthier food....so people flock to it, and go overboard on it, in attempts to save money, and thats when they gain all that weight, after not working it off afterwards.

That's true. I can see where people are coming from in at least partially blaming fast food companies. Fatty foods are far more available and cheaper than healthy alternatives. The root of the problem is that people want to eat fatty foods. They've grown up on them and they want them bigger and cheaper. Why eat a carrot when Burger King has their double cheeseburger meal for $3?

It's simple supply and demand, but I think corporations should have some sort of ethics. To me, loading high schools with vending machines fulling of potato chips and soda is just as bad, if not worse, than marketing cigarettes to children, yet there's been no TV ads with kids lumping dead bodies outside McDonald's headquarters.

pachaas Paisa
January 3rd, 2005, 03:54 PM
americans get dumber and dumber everyday. Homemade food can have as much as calories as 10 cheeeburgers put together. Its all about how you control your diet. I admit it, i go to fast food restaurants 3 times a week.. but I order good things.. i usually order without mayonaise, tartar sauce etc. and onlY chicken for me please... no ground beef, first off they're not even oil drained properly and second of all.. groud beef has the most amount of trans fat in em.

did you all kniow a MCDS double cheesburger that you get for $1 has 500 calories in it. People go there.. eat like 4 to 5 of them thinking thats the best deal.. well guess what you just fucked up ur arteries.. good luck dying early

IPunjabi.Blood
January 3rd, 2005, 03:56 PM
americans get dumber and dumber everyday. Homemade food can have as much as calories as 10 cheeeburgers put together. Its all about how you control your diet. I admit it, i go to fast food restaurants 3 times a week.. but I order good things.. i usually order without mayonaise, tartar sauce etc. and onlY chicken for me please... no ground beef, first off they're not even oil drained properly and second of all.. groud beef has the most amount of trans fat in em.

did you all kniow a MCDS double cheesburger that you get for $1 has 500 calories in it. People go there.. eat like 4 to 5 of them thinking thats the best deal.. well guess what you just fucked up ur arteries.. good luck dying early

You rock my world.

Ac89
January 3rd, 2005, 03:59 PM
It seems that a number of ne studies have come out and shown that "Fat Food" is to blame for us being fat, because they have unhealthy food, and focus marketing on children. I am insane to think that this is rediculus. Isnt the real issues here self control and our culture telling us that we are not responsible for the problems in our lives? I could be way off on this one, and wanted to hear the various opinions on this.

:applause:

nicely said Jay.....and you're 100% right..it's all about self control. These "studies" coming out and reporting this stuff...it's just a way of them blaming something for their problems....because obviously you can't just go out and blame the American society and start pointing fingers...because that will just start a revolt and any point the author tries to make will hit the shredder faster than he can write a retraction.
so, ya..thas what we've come to ... blaming other things for our own problems... :no:

pachaas Paisa
January 3rd, 2005, 03:59 PM
You rock my world.

you rock my everything :Oops:

Ac89
January 3rd, 2005, 04:00 PM
americans get dumber and dumber everyday. Homemade food can have as much as calories as 10 cheeeburgers put together. Its all about how you control your diet. I admit it, i go to fast food restaurants 3 times a week.. but I order good things.. i usually order without mayonaise, tartar sauce etc. and onlY chicken for me please... no ground beef, first off they're not even oil drained properly and second of all.. groud beef has the most amount of trans fat in em.

did you all kniow a MCDS double cheesburger that you get for $1 has 500 calories in it. People go there.. eat like 4 to 5 of them thinking thats the best deal.. well guess what you just fucked up ur arteries.. good luck dying early

:lollol:
hahhaha...you shuld def. live in Canada...you'd fit in perfecttttttttt

pachaas Paisa
January 3rd, 2005, 04:02 PM
:lollol:
hahhaha...you shuld def. live in Canada...you'd fit in perfecttttttttt


Lol why? :o

Kiser Sose
January 3rd, 2005, 04:03 PM
The problem is not the fast food chains, we have free will and the choice of whether to go into them and eat the food or not, I dont think there is anything wrong with going to a McDonalds once a week but the key is excerise, many people dont even do the basic 30mins a day, the only workout they get is when they walk from there desks to the car!! The arguement is always that they dont have the time in the demanding lives yet they have time to watch 4 hours of tv a night.....

But fast food canbe addictive and I am saying that from the perspective that I was addicted to it, I was 280lbs of fat and ate fast food at least twice a day everyday! I used to beat myself up AFTER eating the food but I couldnt stop myself, in the end I had to resort to locking myself in my room and when I felt the urge to eat fast food going to sleep, by simply stopping eating fast food and fizzy drinks I lost 70lbs in 4 months without one bit of excerise! BUT the lose was some fat and alot of lean muscle tissue which is not good so I started going to the gym and now I am 200lbs but lost alot more fat and retained and gained alot more muscle.

Also people here in the UK are going the way of America, we are one of the, if not the, fattest country in Europe!

IPunjabi.Blood
January 3rd, 2005, 04:06 PM
:applause:

nicely said Jay.....and you're 100% right..it's all about self control. These "studies" coming out and reporting this stuff...it's just a way of them blaming something for their problems....because obviously you can't just go out and blame the American society and start pointing fingers...because that will just start a revolt and any point the author tries to make will hit the shredder faster than he can write a retraction.
so, ya..thas what we've come to ... blaming other things for our own problems... :no:

Glad to see another great view on this. you and prat are just loaded with knowledge and insightfull views.

sadly, today americans are taught to not take responsibility. I remember a lill while ago there was a case where the lady sued McDonalds for the hot coffe. My Grandmother would have told her that it was her fault straight away. This whole situation is laughable, yet my parents peers told her that she had a point and that McDonalds should pay her big time, as well as have a warning label.
Something is seriously wrong at the heart of this country and self respounsablity is at its heart. Nothing is your personal fault these days, everyone preaches pass the buck...

IPunjabi.Blood
January 3rd, 2005, 04:07 PM
Lol why? :o

That's what I would like to find out. Why just him? :sadblink:

Ac89
January 3rd, 2005, 04:19 PM
Glad to see another great view on this. you and prat are just loaded with knowledge and insightfull views.

sadly, today americans are taught to not take responsibility. I remember a lill while ago there was a case where the lady sued McDonalds for the hot coffe. My Grandmother would have told her that it was her fault straight away. This whole situation is laughable, yet my parents peers told her that she had a point and that McDonalds should pay her big time, as well as have a warning label.
Something is seriously wrong at the heart of this country and self respounsablity is at its heart. Nothing is your personal fault these days, everyone preaches pass the buck...

it's because no one watns to take responsibility..it's the way America is ....Bush is the same thing...so why not rally behind your president? has he ever accepted fault for all the gross money he spent on finding binladen...or those "weapons of mass destruction" that are supposed to exist?? No.
Accept fault and owning up to it means you have a flaw...means there's something wrong with you...means you're telling the world you aren't perfect....and well :p no one wants to show anyone else that kind of self image right???
Too bad these people haven't heard of humility....

It's all abotu the Ego....It drives them to states that will eventually end them....Get rid of the ego and you free yourself from thsi world ....(don't mean to make this a religious topic...)

ti's too bad that we're so stuck up in pointing out faults in other things...and other people that we fail to see the wreck we, as individuals, are and will one day be relied on to run companies, hospitals....etc

Ac89
January 3rd, 2005, 04:20 PM
Lol why? :o

just your comment on the American lifestyle...

canadians luv pokin fun at them :) (not that we're all that great...but still...u just make us look good)

papercut
January 3rd, 2005, 04:24 PM
sometimes fastfood employees spit in ur food

pachaas Paisa
January 3rd, 2005, 04:25 PM
sometimes fastfood employees spit in ur food

i used to be one and ure right :anxious:

IPunjabi.Blood
January 3rd, 2005, 04:26 PM
sometimes fastfood employees spit in ur food

i done it, but i hope u get another paper cut for breaking it in my thread. :mad:

papercut
January 3rd, 2005, 04:27 PM
im sorry i saw it on Maury and thought i'd be as insightful as the rest of u :sadblink:

pachaas, i hear u guys do snot too..is that true

methodman535
January 3rd, 2005, 04:28 PM
It seems that a number of ne studies have come out and shown that "Fat Food" is to blame for us being fat, because they have unhealthy food, and focus marketing on children. I am insane to think that this is rediculus. Isnt the real issues here self control and our culture telling us that we are not responsible for the problems in our lives? I could be way off on this one, and wanted to hear the various opinions on this.

What are you trying to say? That people dont HAVE to eat fast food and the real problem is they do eat it?

What in the world you are talking about?


I'm saying its like this. People dont have to smoke crack, nobody forces you but if you give into temptation and dont give a flying fuck then its your fault. Nobody decieved you, nobody forced you heck nobody even tricked you. You just didnt care about yourself enough and you had no self discipline.

Crack fucks you up and so does eating junk food but people still screw themselves over KNOWINGLY. Thats all I meant.

IPunjabi.Blood
January 3rd, 2005, 04:31 PM
im sorry i saw it on Maury and thought i'd be as insightful as the rest of u :sadblink:

pachaas, i hear u guys do snot too..is that true

Well, i use to scratch my ass crack while working in the back.

methodman535
January 3rd, 2005, 04:34 PM
Well, i use to scratch my ass crack while working in the back.


But you probly scratch it while you are eating too so Im sure there was no ill intent there right? :twisted:

IPunjabi.Blood
January 3rd, 2005, 04:35 PM
But you probly scratch it while you are eating too so Im sure there was no ill intent there right? :twisted:

I said i use to scratch it while working in the back. not when i'm eating. i always wash my hands before eating. stop asking dumb questions.

pachaas Paisa
January 3rd, 2005, 04:37 PM
im sorry i saw it on Maury and thought i'd be as insightful as the rest of u :sadblink:

pachaas, i hear u guys do snot too..is that true

yes

biatch 604
January 3rd, 2005, 04:37 PM
fast food isnt as evil as some people make it out to be....its bad for u if u eat it three times a day and plus no exercise.... but if u eat it once in a while and know how to control yourself plus workout and take car of your body ... u should be fine

papercut
January 3rd, 2005, 04:39 PM
hmm u should get employee of the month

damn hairy fobs

pachaas Paisa
January 3rd, 2005, 04:40 PM
hmm u should get employee of the month

damn hairy fobs

me? im not hairy

IPunjabi.Blood
January 3rd, 2005, 04:42 PM
fast food isnt as evil as some people make it out to be....its bad for u if u eat it three times a day and plus no exercise.... but if u eat it once in a while and know how to control yourself plus workout and take car of your body ... u should be fine

Gracias.

GeminiPinay
January 3rd, 2005, 04:44 PM
True..you cant always blame fast food...But just to add, if people took the time to slow down and cook dinner at home and for their kids instead of offering fast food as an alternative, maybe some people will learn better self control over what they eat...after all....im too lazy to cook, and i can't wait for my dinner, and cheap fast food seems easy.
Im not entirely stuck in the fast food circle..but you have to admit, the cheaper and easier they come, the less resistance i put up.

biatch 604
January 3rd, 2005, 04:44 PM
Gracias.

no problemo

methodman535
January 3rd, 2005, 04:53 PM
Why do people act like home cooked meals are really healthy by default. You can cook worse poisons at home than people buy at McDonalds if you dont know what you are doing. For example...some of the home cooked desi food, in fact MOST of the homecooked desi food that people eat from their kitchen is WORSE than McDonalds...it fucks you up more and people dont even realize it.

pachaas Paisa
January 3rd, 2005, 04:55 PM
Why do people act like home cooked meals are really healthy by default. You can cook worse poisons at home than people buy at McDonalds if you dont know what you are doing. For example...some of the home cooked desi food, in fact MOST of the homecooked desi food that people eat from their kitchen is WORSE than McDonalds...it fucks you up more and people dont even realize it.


ahaah exaactly what i mentioned earlier... all thatfried stuff, oil.. butter, ghee.. everything put together.. worse than fast food

GeminiPinay
January 3rd, 2005, 04:59 PM
Why do people act like home cooked meals are really healthy by default. You can cook worse poisons at home than people buy at McDonalds if you dont know what you are doing. For example...some of the home cooked desi food, in fact MOST of the homecooked desi food that people eat from their kitchen is WORSE than McDonalds...it fucks you up more and people dont even realize it.
Hah! I knew someone was gonna say what you just said. Actually i only mentioned homecooked food might be better because im my house i dont eat over fattening food and my dad doesn't cook or make anything thats loaded with all that harmful stuff. So obviously not everyone eats right or healthy all the time, which comes to the obvious conclusion, it's all about self control.

IPunjabi.Blood
January 3rd, 2005, 05:05 PM
Hah! I knew someone was gonna say what you just said. Actually i only mentioned homecooked food might be better because im my house i dont eat over fattening food and my dad doesn't cook or make anything thats loaded with all that harmful stuff. So obviously not everyone eats right or healthy all the time, which comes to the obvious conclusion, it's all about self control.

Nice. How old are you?

GeminiPinay
January 3rd, 2005, 05:19 PM
19 :)

BoNeThuG
January 3rd, 2005, 05:20 PM
19 :)



wtf you look like you 15

BoNeThuG
January 3rd, 2005, 05:21 PM
I eat fast food like once every 5 years so it doesnt matter

Notorious Chicca
January 3rd, 2005, 05:25 PM
did yall know that McD's burgers used to sell 4 :rockon: 15 cents back n the day :Poke: :dribble: