Challenge for Theists: Prove that...

[methodman535]

...Santa Claus does not exist. I notice that muslims, xtians etc are very fond of asking atheists and agnostics and maybe even buddhists and hindus to PROVE that god does not exist.

Well in the same vein...why dont you prove to everyone, that santa claus does not exist. You many not be christian but hey...that should make it easier.

And dont give me BS stories about how one of your friends caught his parents stuffing a sock one night...that only proves that they were pretending to be santa, it doesnt disprove santa's existence and it doesnt disprove that all the other socks that santa DID fill were not filled by santa!

[HeRsHeE317]

watz a theists

[aliG]

prove it? consider the "kick ass" example. I will elaborate if you havent heard of it.

[brij]

Yes you cannot prove a negative, you could say that anything exists by this logic... There's no evidence that the universe is run by a 4 headed snake, that there are no unicorns, no dragons, no monsters, ect. Does that mean that each of those things exist?

The burden of proof is on theist to prove god exists, but also not that a god exist but there particular god exists. The only way many theists try to tackle this is by putting the burden on freethinkers to prove god does not exists, even there particular god.

The burden of proof is on theist.

[LuCkY GuNz]

what da hell is you talkin about?

[Ragga_NZ]

Yes you cannot prove a negative, you could say that anything exists by this logic... There's no evidence that the universe is run by a 4 headed snake, that there are no unicorns, no dragons, no monsters, ect. Does that mean that each of those things exist?

The burden of proof is on theist to prove god exists, but also not that a god exist but there particular god exists. The only way many theists try to tackle this is by putting the burden on freethinkers to prove god does not exists, even there particular god.

The burden of proof is on theist.

Wat he said!!!

[methodman535]

I rest my case. :wink:

[royalbengal]

is this a fucking joke?

[LuCkY GuNz]

is this a fucking joke?

hahaha :lol:

[deception]

...Santa Claus does not exist. I notice that muslims, xtians etc are very fond of asking atheists and agnostics and maybe even buddhists and hindus to PROVE that god does not exist.

Well in the same vein...why dont you prove to everyone, that santa claus does not exist. You many not be christian but hey...that should make it easier.

And dont give me BS stories about how one of your friends caught his parents stuffing a sock one night...that only proves that they were pretending to be santa, it doesnt disprove santa's existence and it doesnt disprove that all the other socks that santa DID fill were not filled by santa!

there is an idiosyncratic story about the occurrence of Santa Claus in western folklore that speaks to the power of western construction of congenital icons. i understand he's associated to some french joyful dude which coalesced throughout the years with christianity. HOWEVER, the origination of this joyful figure is traced back to "Milo", who traveled from village to village, collecting and putting interesting objects into his sack along the way. upon arriving at the next village, he would empty out the sack giving the objects as presents to the local children. in east asia he's got a legend of mythical proportions. what i'm arguing here is that santa claus was borrowed (p.c word for stolen) from buddhist folklore, that's my critical history lesson 101.

[ThreeFiddy]

...Santa Claus does not exist. I notice that muslims, xtians etc are very fond of asking atheists and agnostics and maybe even buddhists and hindus to PROVE that god does not exist.

Well in the same vein...why dont you prove to everyone, that santa claus does not exist. You many not be christian but hey...that should make it easier.

And dont give me BS stories about how one of your friends caught his parents stuffing a sock one night...that only proves that they were pretending to be santa, it doesnt disprove santa's existence and it doesnt disprove that all the other socks that santa DID fill were not filled by santa!

You can never prove something's non-existence. This is a fundemental concept of logical arguments. Asking this is like asking "prove that an invisible pink elephant doesn't exist". Any theists that asks you to prove that God does not exist is using a flawed argument.

[brij]

Logical Fallacie


'' 15) Appeal to Ignorance: The fallacy of appeal to ignorance is the assertion that something must be true because it cannot be proven to be false. According to argument theory, the person making an affirmative claim (a claim about what is true, good, necessary, useful, etc.) Has the burden to prove that claim true. The fallacy of appeal to ignorance attempts to reverse the burden of proof and place it on the person making the negative claim (that something is not true, good, useful, etc.) E.g Our justice system has a safeguard against this fallacy built in to it: the presumption of innocence, or the belief in "innocent until proven guilty). If cases were tried according to the appeal to ignorance, the guilty person would have to prove that he or she did not commit a crime, which is, in many cases, a very difficult thing to do.''

[Sphinx7]

do the knowledge on the name "st. nick"
Nicholas Klause
St. Nick was a actual person tho.. he was a Christian and bishop of Myra.

its amazing and ridiculous how Christians praise a fat man in a red suit....
he hasnothin to do with the reli-gion or B.i.b.l.e.
its even told in revelation 12:3 that demons satans color is red.

and if you do the knoweldge on the date Dec. 25th youll find that the Roman Catholic church put forth that fairy tale.
and that is the birth of Nimrod the begining of winter solstice and celebration of Saturnalia. Genesis chapter 10

peace

[ThreeFiddy]

15) Appeal to Ignorance: The fallacy of appeal to ignorance is the assertion that something must be true because it cannot be proven to be false. According to argument theory, the person making an affirmative claim (a claim about what is true, good, necessary, useful, etc.) Has the burden to prove that claim true. The fallacy of appeal to ignorance attempts to reverse the burden of proof and place it on the person making the negative claim (that something is not true, good, useful, etc.) E.g Our justice system has a safeguard against this fallacy built in to it: the presumption of innocence, or the belief in "innocent until proven guilty). If cases were tried according to the appeal to ignorance, the guilty person would have to prove that he or she did not commit a crime, which is, in many cases, a very difficult thing to do.''

...and your point is?

[brij]

15) Appeal to Ignorance: The fallacy of appeal to ignorance is the assertion that something must be true because it cannot be proven to be false. According to argument theory, the person making an affirmative claim (a claim about what is true, good, necessary, useful, etc.) Has the burden to prove that claim true. The fallacy of appeal to ignorance attempts to reverse the burden of proof and place it on the person making the negative claim (that something is not true, good, useful, etc.) E.g Our justice system has a safeguard against this fallacy built in to it: the presumption of innocence, or the belief in "innocent until proven guilty). If cases were tried according to the appeal to ignorance, the guilty person would have to prove that he or she did not commit a crime, which is, in many cases, a very difficult thing to do.''

...and your point is?



Just posting a Logical Fallacie for those who disagree.

[ThreeFiddy]

Just posting a Logical Fallacie for those who disagree.

Ah. Well, I didn't see anyone disagreeing here, but thanks anyway I suppose...