nice guys finish last

[Vision350z]

i used to not believe it but now i truly do. if you look at it from a psychological perspective, it holds true in almost every single case. yeah the good guys may finish last and get better rewards in the end, but sometimes there won't always be an "end".

a specific example would be intimate relationships. through personal experiences, i've found that girls like the badasses much more than the clean-hearted and respectful guys. they complain about players and pimps and being used in oh-so many ways yet when they finally find that good guy that's sure to take care of them and pamper them in every way, they're turned off. i'm sure most girls out there would happily admit the badasses are bigger turn-ons on for them.

at first, i usually seem like the player-type but then when one gets to truly know me, they're surprised at how i'm actually far from it. girls have gotten turned off by that a few times and in other cases, they simply ended up getting too attached to me and got spooked so they ran off.

is this the price for being a good guy? i recently lost this girl for this reason after dating for a month and going out for almost another month. we had a blast in that time and got incredibly close but in the end, well...you can guess what happened....

[keep in mind this post is targeted at a large majority of the adolescent female population, not all]

[pachaas Paisa]

its a load of bullshit the moment u realize ure a nice guy back off a little, a little bit of attitude and bad boy characteristic doesnt really hurt

[Mr_Maz]

i used to not believe it but now i truly do. if you look at it from a psychological perspective, it holds true in almost every single case. yeah the good guys may finish last and get better rewards in the end, but sometimes there won't always be an "end".

a specific example would be intimate relationships. through personal experiences, i've found that girls like the badasses much more than the clean-hearted and respectful guys. they complain about players and pimps and being used in oh-so many ways yet when they finally find that good guy that's sure to take care of them and pamper them in every way, they're turned off. i'm sure most girls out there would happily admit the badasses are bigger turn-ons on for them.

at first, i usually seem like the player-type but then when one gets to truly know me, they're surprised at how i'm actually far from it. girls have gotten turned off by that a few times and in other cases, they simply ended up getting too attached to me and got spooked so they ran off.

is this the price for being a good guy? i recently lost this girl for this reason after dating for a month and going out for almost another month. we had a blast in that time and got incredibly close but in the end, well...you can guess what happened....

[keep in mind this post is targeted at a large majority of the adolescent female population, not all]

I know what you mean bro... i#ve experenced the same thing....its as if they want us to cheat on them ...(sometimes)

But we are what we are and we shouldn't change, our Ms Right is waitring in the stars and when we find each other it will be heaven on earth.

[johndoe]

i used to not believe it but now i truly do. if you look at it from a psychological perspective, it holds true in almost every single case. yeah the good guys may finish last and get better rewards in the end, but sometimes there won't always be an "end".

a specific example would be intimate relationships. through personal experiences, i've found that girls like the badasses much more than the clean-hearted and respectful guys. they complain about players and pimps and being used in oh-so many ways yet when they finally find that good guy that's sure to take care of them and pamper them in every way, they're turned off. i'm sure most girls out there would happily admit the badasses are bigger turn-ons on for them.

at first, i usually seem like the player-type but then when one gets to truly know me, they're surprised at how i'm actually far from it. girls have gotten turned off by that a few times and in other cases, they simply ended up getting too attached to me and got spooked so they ran off.

is this the price for being a good guy? i recently lost this girl for this reason after dating for a month and going out for almost another month. we had a blast in that time and got incredibly close but in the end, well...you can guess what happened....

[keep in mind this post is targeted at a large majority of the adolescent female population, not all]

yeah and a large majority of them are superficial, the nice guy act will work if ur trying to woo a mature girl because they want a guy thats gonna take care of them...but if its a 15 to 17 yr old (most of the time) their gonna go for what superficially appeases them

[Vision350z]

its a load of bullshit the moment u realize ure a nice guy back off a little, a little bit of attitude and bad boy characteristic doesnt really hurt

i guess it has to even out. i'm too nice of a guy and it doesn't weigh out cuz i'd have to be awfully mean to properly balance it haha. but maz is right, the person who'll except you for who you are is waiting out there somewhere in the 7 billion ppl that are in this world.

I know what you mean bro... i#ve experenced the same thing....its as if they want us to cheat on them ...(sometimes)

But we are what we are and we shouldn't change, our Ms Right is waitring in the stars and when we find each other it will be heaven on earth.

very true. that's what helped (still in the process) me get past the breakup. after enduring countless breakups, you simply become more and more immune to that pain.

yeah and a large majority of them are superficial, the nice guy act will work if ur trying to woo a mature girl because they want a guy thats gonna take care of them...but if its a 15 to 17 yr old (most of the time) their gonna go for what superficially appeases them

haha yeah you're right, the girl i actually "mentioned" was/is almost 18
and all the girls i've experienced this with have been within that age range. considering how i'm only 20 years old and a desi, finding a mature girl isn't all that easy

[Kallubaadshah]

Yup, start bein a jerk and women will swarm over you.

But there are some out there that sill look for the nice guys.

[celicababyboy]

be nice....dont be TOOO nice.......be normal.........be a rebel lol but to an extent jus be urslelf dont need to be all nice n stuff

[Vision350z]

Yup, start bein a jerk and women will swarm over you.

But there are some out there that sill look for the nice guys.


the incredibly gorgeous and hot girls out there want the badasses. since they're also the pickiest (and have a "right" to be picky), they want that tom cruise or brad pitt figure.

i'm gonna act like a player and see how many girls i can pick up on new year's eve, i'll see which works better (just for test purposes only) so if any of you girls hear rumors like "that guy omar is such an asshole, what a player!" don't blame me!

[Vision350z]

be nice....dont be TOOO nice.......be normal.........be a rebel lol but to an extent jus be urslelf dont need to be all nice n stuff

it's my personality "unfortunately" to be that nice. i have alot of respect for women so i'm alot different with guys than i am with the ladies.

[caramelcutie15]

yeah and a large majority of them are superficial, the nice guy act will work if ur trying to woo a mature girl because they want a guy thats gonna take care of them...but if its a 15 to 17 yr old (most of the time) their gonna go for what superficially appeases them

well that might be the case with most young adolescent girls i guess..but i guess i would be the odd girl out. i go for the nice types. i think i've always have. weird. i do have a bf right now..and he is not a "bad boy" but a complete sweetheart... so guys there are exceptions!

[celicababyboy]

it's my personality "unfortunately" to be that nice. i have alot of respect for women so i'm alot different with guys than i am with the ladies.

u can respect gurls n not be TOO nice

[IPunjabi.Blood]

I know what you mean. I use to be like that. Now i'm an ass hole. Chicks love me. :)

[Vision350z]

well that might be the case with most young adolescent girls i guess..but i guess i would be the odd girl out. i go for the nice types. i think i've always have. weird. i do have a bf right now..and he is not a "bad boy" but a complete sweetheart... so guys there are exceptions!

yeah but they're rare

[caramelcutie15]

it's my personality "unfortunately" to be that nice. i have alot of respect for women so i'm alot different with guys than i am with the ladies.
in ths day and age..it's so hard to find guys who repect women..please don't change!

[johndoe]

the incredibly gorgeous and hot girls out there want the badasses. since they're also the pickiest (and have a "right" to be picky), they want that tom cruise or brad pitt figure.

i'm gonna act like a player and see how many girls i can pick up on new year's eve, i'll see which works better (just for test purposes only) so if any of you girls hear rumors like "that guy omar is such an asshole, what a player!" don't blame me!

those kind of chicks are superficial and not worth the time anyways...plus not all of them are like that...like this is a bad example i guess but angelina jolie and billy bob thorton...he's one ugly mofo but she likes him for who he is not how "hot" he is

[Vision350z]

u can respect gurls n not be TOO nice

yeah the chic that broke up with me recently, her bestfriend told me that. and then she went on to say how i shouldn't have to change myself for anyone. if i try not to be nice, well...i'd simply be acting. i'd have to hold back alot of my caring emotions. but from this point on, i'm seriously just gonna be an asshole and see how the results turn up.

[IPunjabi.Blood]

I was kidding about me being an ass hole. I'm a very sweet guy, but when time calls for it, i can turn lill ugly too.

[celicababyboy]

bro dont change when ur with a gurl i mean after when u broke up jus go through n figure where u went wrong n change that i didn't mean change when ur with someone

[Vision350z]

in ths day and age..it's so hard to find guys who repect women..please don't change!

i've learned my lesson missy!

those kind of chicks are superficial and not worth the time anyways...plus not all of them are like that...like this is a bad example i guess but angelina jolie and billy bob thorton...he's one ugly mofo but she likes him for who he is not how "hot" he is

haha angelina jolie then must be awfully rare (aside from her stunningly, sexy body and face)

[johndoe]

hell yeah dude she's so hot..i dont care if she's kinda psycho...i'm down for her freaky sex lol

[Vision350z]

hell yeah dude she's so hot..i dont care if she's kinda psycho...i'm down for her freaky sex lol

ahh slight change of topic here: have you seen "Taking Lives"? if you haven't, then you have to rent it. she has a very very "exposing" sex scene at the end and well.....my mouth was wide open. i haven't watched porn since i was about 14 or so, but i seriously rewinded that scene and watched it again. i didn't think angelina jolie would expose herself like that, they must've paid her alot

[johndoe]

ahh slight change of topic here: have you seen "Taking Lives"? if you haven't, then you have to rent it. she has a very very "exposing" sex scene at the end and well.....my mouth was wide open. i haven't watched porn since i was about 14 or so, but i seriously rewinded that scene and watched it again. i didn't think angelina jolie would expose herself like that, they must've paid her alot

i must make a trip to blockbuster tomorrow

[Vision350z]

i must make a trip to blockbuster tomorrow

let me know what you think. if you have a gf, invite her over when you watch it, it'll be a guaranteed home-base homie

[johndoe]

let me know what you think. if you have a gf, invite her over when you watch it, it'll be a guaranteed home-base homie

lol more like watching the movie as a loner...on my bday too probably :(

[caramelcutie15]

ahh slight change of topic here: have you seen "Taking Lives"? if you haven't, then you have to rent it. she has a very very "exposing" sex scene at the end and well.....my mouth was wide open. i haven't watched porn since i was about 14 or so, but i seriously rewinded that scene and watched it again. i didn't think angelina jolie would expose herself like that, they must've paid her alot

yea i saw it..i didn't think she would do that either..movie was kinda freaky tho

[Vision350z]

lol more like watching the movie as a loner...on my bday too probably :(

lol ... ouch. just invite a lady friend then, she'll get pretty horny

yea i saw it..i didn't think she would do that either..movie was kinda freaky tho

the ending was freaky, i'd spit out which scene but i don't wanna spoil it for johndoe

[johndoe]

i'll probably go somewhere since i'll be back home...plus my bday is on new years eve so there is def. something to do

[Serenity]

^ Nice day to have ones birthday :)

[Vision350z]

i'll probably go somewhere since i'll be back home...plus my bday is on new years eve so there is def. something to do

if you drink, that'd be one hell of a time to get drunk

[SpankingGT]

I havent read all the replys in here, maybe someone alreaydy said it it- but I'll say it again!!!
Nice guys is nothing but bullshit!!!! Nice guys think they are nice guys but all togther they are bunch desprate, clingy mofos who forget to use their brain as soon as they get a girl and start to think with their heart and dick!!
When it comes to women, close your ears and open your eyes!! Look at their actions and observe!! You dont have to be a jerk to get women, just dont be a bitch! I say be the nice person but not a spineless bitch!!!
Most women like to be controled to a point where you tell them what to do, but at the same time respect them!!

[The Main Man Mai]

the cocky/funny attitude does wounders for me
try it out

[The Main Man Mai]

I havent read all the replys in here, maybe someone alreaydy said it it- but I'll say it again!!!
Nice guys is nothing but bullshit!!!! Nice guys think they are nice guys but all togther they are bunch desprate, clingy mofos who forget to use their brain as soon as they get a girl and start to think with their heart and dick!!
When it comes to women, close your ears and open your eyes!! Look at their actions and observe!! You dont have to be a jerk to get women, just dont be a bitch! I say be the nice person but not a spineless bitch!!!
Most women like to be controled to a point where you tell them what to do, but at the same time respect them!!

exactly, couldn't have said it better

[Vision350z]

I havent read all the replys in here, maybe someone alreaydy said it it- but I'll say it again!!!
Nice guys is nothing but bullshit!!!! Nice guys think they are nice guys but all togther they are bunch desprate, clingy mofos who forget to use their brain as soon as they get a girl and start to think with their heart and dick!!
When it comes to women, close your ears and open your eyes!! Look at their actions and observe!! You dont have to be a jerk to get women, just dont be a bitch! I say be the nice person but not a spineless bitch!!!
Most women like to be controled to a point where you tell them what to do, but at the same time respect them!!

eh i don't think that goes for all "nice guys" (the part about forgetting to use their brains) cuz i'm a nice guy but i'm not anything like what you explained. i agree with the rest :)

[johndoe]

if you drink, that'd be one hell of a time to get drunk

yeah too bad i dont

[SIXPAK GQ]

i am going to cut and paste what i wrote in the past, but its a guys version...you mabe to reciprocate that...perhaps it may not relate to this topic:

you have to tease the girl. whether you're with her or not. Doing this hides you're feelings to a certain degree. it adds humor and spice. Guys usually hide their feelings and women usually act on their feelings. Don't over tease or insult too badly though. If you're too foward with your feelings and get too emotional about her without a lil teasing, then you are oficially a nice guy.

Even if you know you're wrong about something. debate with her just to see if she can back up what she said with research, facts etc. so she'll have something to prove to you. this shows that you can't be easily won over every time.

Never admit you're afraid: Don't admit to being afraid of anything. I actually told my first girlfriend that i was afraid of her. Woooo have i come a long way. I mean was i off my meds or something LOL.

If she aint your woman and you want her to be. don't settle for friendship. If she tries to use you as an emotional tampon cuz she know you like her. Tell her "look i will not be used as your emotional tampon.

[SIXPAK GQ]

Women gotta go through the bad ones (asshole guys) before they hit the right one (mr. nice guy)

forget the term "asshole" and "nice"

[bewakoof]

I agree.. nice guys do end up last.,. everysingle time.. coz.. girls are stoopid like dat. they want someone to treat them like shit.. and then they believe they can change that person.. kk. good luck.. we , nice guys , have no hope!

[ii_khushi86_ii]

so girls like jerks.. wow, what generalization

[SharpenedMango]

Who said billy bob thornton is ugly!??? Man when im old i wanna look like that, i aint joking, hes got a fuckin nice voice, and he holds off the whole baldness thing real well (look at my avatar and c y im concerned lol)

im not taking the piss
billy bob rocks, he was outta angelina jolies league :)

[SIXPAK GQ]

girls might go for the bad boys at a young age, but after they've been tested and experienced. they eventually grow up to go for a gentleman...

[ii_khushi86_ii]

girls might go for the bad boys at a young age, but after they've been tested and experienced. they eventually grow up to go for a gentleman...

most of the bad guys pretend to be nice guys.. thats why some girls see him, fall for his charm, and end up getting hurt. you gotta know a person well enough. but its not true that girls like the bad boy type.. some may, but not every girl.

[SharpenedMango]

if a bloke is too straight, its too boring know?? i mean which girl on Rd wants to marry a mummy's boy Doctor? not many i dont think, every gay needs an edge

[baby-face]

this is soooo true ....... being a nice guy doesnt get u n e where.... i went out with my x-gf for 2 years, and she ended up breaking up with me, even though i treated her like a queen..... her best mates even said to her at the time that she will never ever meet n e one like me.... and what burned the most was that her boy freind before me was such a fag, he cheated on her with someone she new, and although she hates him now, she told me that at the time she broke up with him, she wanted him back ...... how does that make sense????

so basicaly, even though he chated on her, she wanted him back, but even though i treated her like a queen, i wudnt even look at another girl let alone talk 2 one, and i even accepted some of the bad things she had done in the past and i forgave her for a few bad things she did to me, she still wanted to break up

although she says she still loves me, its 10 months down the line, and we hardly talk, but its still burns....

thats why sometimes, i get really stressed out, its all gets on top of me, and i say 2 my self, theres no room for nice guys in this world, maybe i shud turn like the rest of em............

[SIXPAK GQ]

most of the bad guys pretend to be nice guys.. thats why some girls see him, fall for his charm, and end up getting hurt. you gotta know a person well enough. but its not true that girls like the bad boy type.. some may, but not every girl.

no one likes posers/pretenders.....afterall, how long will they put on an act? why is that girls for for the thug type? i am speaking for atleast half the guys on this board who speak ebonics and think they are 'Black' while abusing the derogatory 'N' word. tons of jewerly, pants half way down to their ankles. whats so attractive about that?

[BigCrazyIndian]

honestly, if she broke up with you over such a cliche, shes not worth the time

nice guys, generally, look for more than just a simple piece of ass, and I bet this scares some of the girls that they go out with....enough for them to go find an asshole that'll take them for what they are on looks alone

[bewakoof]

this is soooo true ....... being a nice guy doesnt get u n e where.... i went out with my x-gf for 2 years, and she ended up breaking up with me, even though i treated her like a queen..... her best mates even said to her at the time that she will never ever meet n e one like me.... and what burned the most was that her boy freind before me was such a fag, he cheated on her with someone she new, and although she hates him now, she told me that at the time she broke up with him, she wanted him back ...... how does that make sense????

so basicaly, even though he chated on her, she wanted him back, but even though i treated her like a queen, i wudnt even look at another girl let alone talk 2 one, and i even accepted some of the bad things she had done in the past and i forgave her for a few bad things she did to me, she still wanted to break up

although she says she still loves me, its 10 months down the line, and we hardly talk, but its still burns....

thats why sometimes, i get really stressed out, its all gets on top of me, and i say 2 my self, theres no room for nice guys in this world, maybe i shud turn like the rest of em............

dude i know what u feel. it hurts like a bitch. worse then a gun shot.. u treat a girl like princes.. and then they f*** woahh..

[SIXPAK GQ]

baby : u can only blame urself, if you were treated like s**t. you could have bailed out of a that relationship but u stuck around?

[baby-face]

baby : u can only blame urself, if you were treated like s**t. you could have bailed out of a that relationship but u stuck around?

no, dont get me worng, maybe i didnt exaplin propaly, she didnt treat me badly at all.... not one single bit... but what i meant when i said i forgave her was that she lied to me about a few things at the start of the relationship, and she cudnt bring to tell me the truth coz she thought i wud break up with her ....... but wen she told me, i was pissed off, but i managed to see threw it, and sinse then, she never lied to me ever again... but the thing is i was forgiving.... not many guys like that around ..... but still, with these good qialities, we nice guys till get burned.

[baby-face]

dude i know what u feel. it hurts like a bitch. worse then a gun shot.. u treat a girl like princes.. and then they f*** woahh..

i know dude, i can officially say it was the worst experience of my life.

[SIXPAK GQ]

no, dont get me worng, maybe i didnt exaplin propaly, she didnt treat me badly at all.... not one single bit... but what i meant when i said i forgave her was that she lied to me about a few things at the start of the relationship, and she cudnt bring to tell me the truth coz she thought i wud break up with her ....... but wen she told me, i was pissed off, but i managed to see threw it, and sinse then, she never lied to me ever again... but the thing is i was forgiving.... not many guys like that around ..... but still, with these good qialities, we nice guys till get burned.

she probably found someone else. maybe she was seeing someone else in the background and found a better deal..

[Ac89]

i used to not believe it but now i truly do. if you look at it from a psychological perspective, it holds true in almost every single case. yeah the good guys may finish last and get better rewards in the end, but sometimes there won't always be an "end".

a specific example would be intimate relationships. through personal experiences, i've found that girls like the badasses much more than the clean-hearted and respectful guys. they complain about players and pimps and being used in oh-so many ways yet when they finally find that good guy that's sure to take care of them and pamper them in every way, they're turned off. i'm sure most girls out there would happily admit the badasses are bigger turn-ons on for them.

at first, i usually seem like the player-type but then when one gets to truly know me, they're surprised at how i'm actually far from it. girls have gotten turned off by that a few times and in other cases, they simply ended up getting too attached to me and got spooked so they ran off.

is this the price for being a good guy? i recently lost this girl for this reason after dating for a month and going out for almost another month. we had a blast in that time and got incredibly close but in the end, well...you can guess what happened....

[keep in mind this post is targeted at a large majority of the adolescent female population, not all]

maybe your problem isn't that you're nice...but that you give off the persona that you're a player.
Girls don't want *for the most part* a player... a bad boy...They want that nice guy...the guy who will forever take care of them...but in all fairness, they don't want a sissy along with all that. They want someone who's sure of himself, who gives out positive vibes, who isn't afraid of this world...or someone who's inferior to other guys. Girls want a guy who's nice ...yes...btu they they also want a guy who will keep them open with surprises...who won't be lame and boring...the same old piece of yarn. Those kind of guys get old...really fast...adn then where's the fun?
On the other hand, have you ever considered that maybe you're going after the wrong kind of girls? If they get too attached and run away...then maybe they are immature and aren't ready for commitment...and instead they jsut want to have fun. Instead of looking for that "one" girl who wants you to sweep her off her feet...why don't you stop looking and analyzing how girls are this and how girls are that?
Sure, most relationships today are superficial and most couples just use each other like pieces of equipment, that they will one day throw out when there's no need for the equipment, but, if you really think about it...there are girls out there who are far above society's stupid norms and know what they want in life....and are really smart and gorgeous....

[plummet]

oh gawd the generalization in this thread is making me gag

[bewakoof]

she probably found someone else. maybe she was seeing someone else in the background and found a better deal..

u know. lyin to stay in a relationship.. is worse u can do to a guy specially when he loves u with all his heart. and when he finds out that u were lyin all this time.. it fuckin hurts.. If u firgive a girl for doin mistakes when she is wid u.. u do it .. coz u love her and trust her.. but then u find out she been lyin all this time.. thats fuckin fucked up...

baby-face.. u r not the only one man.. its been a yr.. since that shit happened to me.... i can still feel the pain!!

[baby-face]

she probably found someone else. maybe she was seeing someone else in the background and found a better deal..

na, she still feels for me, she wasnt that kinda girl....she was just too family orientated..... basicly, we are both guji, but different castes.... and she cudnt handle not listening to her parents, even though we probably cud have bought them round, as her dad liked me n e way.... just burins coz we thought we wud get married ..... well im not makin the mistake of gettin in too deep with a girl ever again

[SIXPAK GQ]

u know. lyin to stay in a relationship.. is worse u can do to a guy specially when he loves u with all his heart. and when he finds out that u were lyin all this time.. it fuckin hurts.. If u firgive a girl for doin mistakes when she is wid u.. u do it .. coz u love her and trust her.. but then u find out she been lyin all this time.. thats fuckin fucked up...

baby-face.. u r not the only one man.. its been a yr.. since that shit happened to me.... i can still feel the pain!!

it doesnt bother me anymore, i expect the worst anyway....

[SharpenedMango]

oh gawd the generalization in this thread is making me gag

agreed

makes a nice read though

[bewakoof]

Well i wish i could be more matured like u.. and not be a lovy dovy.. fool. but learnt my lesson.. not doin the same mistake twice.. against my religion

[baby-face]

u know. lyin to stay in a relationship.. is worse u can do to a guy specially when he loves u with all his heart. and when he finds out that u were lyin all this time.. it fuckin hurts.. If u firgive a girl for doin mistakes when she is wid u.. u do it .. coz u love her and trust her.. but then u find out she been lyin all this time.. thats fuckin fucked up...

baby-face.. u r not the only one man.. its been a yr.. since that shit happened to me.... i can still feel the pain!!

she only lied once at the start of the relationship, when we didnt even know that it was going to last a month, but after that, we both never told one lie 2 each other... and i know this coz she even told me things that made me mad, but still, what counted is that she told me the truth...

and yea man, its the worst feeling ...... i wonder if it will ever go away, but i doubt it, coz i think, even wen we are married, we both will have a small part of our hearts dedicated 2 each other

[ORaNGe dAsY]

u know. lyin to stay in a relationship.. is worse u can do to a guy specially when he loves u with all his heart. and when he finds out that u were lyin all this time.. it fuckin hurts.. If u firgive a girl for doin mistakes when she is wid u.. u do it .. coz u love her and trust her.. but then u find out she been lyin all this time.. thats fuckin fucked up...

baby-face.. u r not the only one man.. its been a yr.. since that shit happened to me.... i can still feel the pain!!

well what if its the other way around? when a girl forgives and forgives and then the guy just decides to bounce, then just wtf? The girl loves and trusts him as well but then the guy turns out to be a booger. It's always effed up when it comes to trust, the more you trust a person, the worst pushover you get, gotdamnit :shakefis: times infinity

[Aurovon]

there are plenty of girls who like nice guys -- most of em are butt ugly. but what u mean is there is a lack of hot girls who like nice guys. so what? everythign has its pros n cons. for example most guys complain bout this. why? bc they want someone hot + 'nice' which is rare. there is somethin wrong with guys when it comes to this too, they are shallow. when they get an ugly girl with the personality they want, they usually break it off. im sure most guys leave this part out. so we can bitch and complain all we want because no matter what its very rare to get everything our way. just deal with it or pick the things that matter to you the most and stick with it.

[Ac89]

sixpackGQ, i do the same now too :)

babyface....givin up's the stupidest thing you can do...

and all this stuff about dedicating...you just feel that way now cuz it ain't been that long since it went down...find the girl you'll love forever..and u'll forget all your past relationships.
That's why they are in the past...so you can learn from them and move on...not dwell and become obsessed.
think that whatever happened happened for it's own reason...some reason you ain't meant to find out now or maybe ever....but there's always a bigger picture..look at that and mvoe on

[baby-face]

there are plenty of girls who like nice guys -- most of em are butt ugly. but what u mean is there is a lack of hot girls who like nice guys. so what? everythign has its pros n cons. for example most guys complain bout this. why? bc they want someone hot + 'nice' which is rare. there is somethin wrong with guys when it comes to this too, they are shallow. when they get an ugly girl with the personality they want, they usually break it off. im sure most guys leave this part out. so we can bitch and complain all we want because no matter what its very rare to get everything our way. just deal with it or pick the things that matter to you the most and stick with it.

u had to kill it with the truth didnt u ..... lolz :no:

[Ac89]

there are plenty of girls who like nice guys -- most of em are butt ugly. but what u mean is there is a lack of hot girls who like nice guys. so what? everythign has its pros n cons. for example most guys complain bout this. why? bc they want someone hot + 'nice' which is rare. there is somethin wrong with guys when it comes to this too, they are shallow. when they get an ugly girl with the personality they want, they usually break it off. im sure most guys leave this part out. so we can bitch and complain all we want because no matter what its very rare to get everything our way. just deal with it or pick the things that matter to you the most and stick with it.


nice to see you back on teh forums bitch...:p....nicely said

[baby-face]

sixpackGQ, i do the same now too :)

babyface....givin up's the stupidest thing you can do...

and all this stuff about dedicating...you just feel that way now cuz it ain't been that long since it went down...find the girl you'll love forever..and u'll forget all your past relationships.
That's why they are in the past...so you can learn from them and move on...not dwell and become obsessed.
think that whatever happened happened for it's own reason...some reason you ain't meant to find out now or maybe ever....but there's always a bigger picture..look at that and mvoe on

what do u mean about me givng up? what am i giving up?

but yea, i agree with most of the other stuff u saying.... but its just hard 2 put it in to practice.... when it 1st happen, i didnt think i wud survive till the next week.... but look at me now ..... 10 months down the line, its been up and down, but im trying to move on, and its hard but im doing it.... i have plenty of offers from girls, but i just dont think its right 2 use them when im not totaly over my x-gf. when i get with my next girl, i wana get with her coz i want to treat her the way she deserves and becoz i want 2 be with her, not becoz i on the rebound.... thats just not fair.... ive been hurt, so i never want 2 hurt someone else, its the worst thing i cud ever do....

[bewakoof]

well what if its the other way around? when a girl forgives and forgives and then the guy just decides to bounce, then just wtf? The girl loves and trusts him as well but then the guy turns out to be a booger. It's always effed up when it comes to trust, the more you trust a person, the worst pushover you get, gotdamnit :shakefis: times infinity

awww.. i hope it nevaa happened to u.. coz it hurts times infinity... well.. I <3 ya time infinity.. if it makes u feel a lil betta..

[ORaNGe dAsY]

awww.. i hope it nevaa happened to u.. coz it hurts times infinity... well.. I <3 ya time infinity.. if it makes u feel a lil betta..

:hug: yupperz

and blimey, you hoped wrong :tears:

[ii_khushi86_ii]

no one likes posers/pretenders.....afterall, how long will they put on an act? why is that girls for for the thug type? i am speaking for atleast half the guys on this board who speak ebonics and think they are 'Black' while abusing the derogatory 'N' word. tons of jewerly, pants half way down to their ankles. whats so attractive about that?

i find absolutely NOTHING attractive about that.. which goes to show that the whole "nice guys finish last" theory is a big generalization.

[Ac89]

what do u mean about me givng up? what am i giving up?

but yea, i agree with most of the other stuff u saying.... but its just hard 2 put it in to practice.... when it 1st happen, i didnt think i wud survive till the next week.... but look at me now ..... 10 months down the line, its been up and down, but im trying to move on, and its hard but im doing it.... i have plenty of offers from girls, but i just dont think its right 2 use them when im not totaly over my x-gf. when i get with my next girl, i wana get with her coz i want to treat her the way she deserves and becoz i want 2 be with her, not becoz i on the rebound.... thats just not fair.... ive been hurt, so i never want 2 hurt someone else, its the worst thing i cud ever do....

givin up...you said earlier abotu never going to deep with a girl ever again....no one's saying not to get deep... just make sure it's both ways

and you're smarter for knowing that thing that i bolded

[ii_khushi86_ii]

there are plenty of girls who like nice guys -- most of em are butt ugly. but what u mean is there is a lack of hot girls who like nice guys. so what? everythign has its pros n cons. for example most guys complain bout this. why? bc they want someone hot + 'nice' which is rare. there is somethin wrong with guys when it comes to this too, they are shallow. when they get an ugly girl with the personality they want, they usually break it off. im sure most guys leave this part out. so we can bitch and complain all we want because no matter what its very rare to get everything our way. just deal with it or pick the things that matter to you the most and stick with it.

:yes: agreed.

[Ac89]

i find absolutely NOTHING attractive about that.. which goes to show that the whole "nice guys finish last" theory is a big generalization.

correction: it's a stupid, blown out of proportion, generalization

[bewakoof]

:hug: yupperz

and blimey, you hoped wrong :tears:

naa. dont cry.. everythin happens for a reason!!!

[SIXPAK GQ]

i find absolutely NOTHING attractive about that.. which goes to show that the whole "nice guys finish last" theory is a big generalization.

but its proven over and over again.....

[ii_khushi86_ii]

i find absolutely NOTHING attractive about that.. which goes to show that the whole "nice guys finish last" theory is a big generalization.
but its proven over and over again.....

do you not see the number of happy couples in the world?

this theory is basically used by some single guys as an excuse. read back to what aurovon wrote.

[ShatteredSoul]

but its proven over and over again.....

You must not have the greatest examples then.

[Ac89]

but its proven over and over again.....


true but to a certain degree...it's only proven by girls that are the party..clubbing type...the sluts.... after all you can't have a conversation in a club...lol * a decent one*...and it's been proven by the younger audiences.

but think about the mature girls...the college girls *for the most part* that know what they want...that ain't bitched out of their mind...or so stuck up they don't know where earth is....i think these girls have proven it wrong

[bewakoof]

true but to a certain degree...it's only proven by girls that are the party..clubbing type...the sluts.... after all you can't have a conversation in a club...lol * a decent one*...and it's been proven by the younger audiences.

but think about the mature girls...the college girls *for the most part* that know what they want...that ain't bitched out of their mind...or so stuck up they don't know where earth is....i think these girls have proven it wrong

I agree. girls when they are young.. they have empty brains.. but decent college goin girl .. acts a lil differently.. matured way!!

[SIXPAK GQ]

You must not have the greatest examples then.

this thread alone is an example

[SIXPAK GQ]

do you not see the number of happy couples in the world?

this theory is basically used by some single guys as an excuse. read back to what aurovon wrote.

how do you know they are happy couples?

[ii_khushi86_ii]

how do you know they are happy couples?

my parents.. my relatives.. some of my neighbors. yeah, that's several couples right there.

[ii_khushi86_ii]

this thread alone is an example

you have two girls in here who say they do not go for bad guys. how is this thread an example?

[T.Dimera]

I don't know you, however common mistakes lots of guys make is they become to 'needy'. You need to be a challange. Thats why girls go for you at 1st, but then you seem to stop being a challange and a month later their IL is way down on you. If you want to keep a girl, raise her IL in you more then you have for her. Once she drops the love card on you, then she's committed and she won't go easy.

[ShatteredSoul]

you have two girls in here who say they do not go for bad guys. how is this thread an example?

Khushi's right, you guys are just drowning in self-pity.

[WildWolfdog]

it's because many girls think nice guys are boring even though we're not lol and they want someone to "keep them on their toes"

[ShatteredSoul]

it's because many girls think nice guys are boring even though we're not lol and they want someone to "keep them on their toes"

Basil will you keep me on my toes

[WildWolfdog]

Basil will you keep me on my toes

lol pagal, alrite

*breaks glass and leaves them around the floor* :)

[ShatteredSoul]

lol pagal, alrite

*breaks glass and leaves them around the floor* :)

:-P

[WildWolfdog]

:-P

throws mousetraps around as well :) haha stay on ur toes larki

[MiSs.SuNsHiNe]

I don't think its necessarily just nice GUYS who finish last, I think its the nicer people in general. The world's a bitch you just gotta bite back. That's just how it works, as unfortunate as it is.

I sound bitter I know, but I'm really not :S

[SIXPAK GQ]

my parents.. my relatives.. some of my neighbors. yeah, that's several couples right there.

you don't really know that, just assuming.

[ShatteredSoul]

you don't really know that, just assuming.
You're lame, really. Think about what you just said.

[SIXPAK GQ]

you have two girls in here who say they do not go for bad guys. how is this thread an example?

lol, girls say one thing and do the complete opposite and i am sure Mr. Aurovan will agree with this comment. i am talking about the guys problems on this thread, where have u been moderator

[Ac89]

you guys think about stupid shit like this too much...

here's a thought...stop pointing out what's wrong wiht the other sex...and what other girls don't and won't go after.....concentrate on your own silly ass....and maybe then the girl will walk into your ass...

seriously...anyone thas thinks about girls this way...and posts up here....u'r showing everyone why they won't go for you...NEEDY. no girl likes a clingy ..needy guy....

let it go...seriously...BREATHEEEE

[SIXPAK GQ]

You're lame, really. Think about what you just said.

She has no proof that they are happy. You think parents are really going to tell their something bad about their love life? Just b/c one looks happy, does not mean they are happy. Only the primary person knows him/herself the best.

[ShatteredSoul]

lol, girls say one thing and do the complete opposite and i am sure Mr. Aurovan will agree with this comment. i am talking about the guys problems on this thread, where have u been moderator

Oh my gosh, you need to QUIT generalising.

[ii_khushi86_ii]

lol, girls say one thing and do the complete opposite and i am sure Mr. Aurovan will agree with this comment. i am talking about the guys problems on this thread, where have u been moderator

and every single girl does this? like shatteredsoul said, quit the generalization. you`ll make yourself look like a fool.

[SIXPAK GQ]

Oh my gosh, you need to QUIT generalising.

I am not generalizng. have you read all of my posts on this thread especially the first one? I speak from the experiences from my friends.....sorry i cannot change what has happened...

[ShatteredSoul]

She has no proof that they are happy. You think parents are really going to tell their something bad about their love life? Just b/c one looks happy, does not mean they are happy. Only the primary person knows him/herself the best.
"Only the primary person knows him/herself the best."

EXACTLY, quit generalising about people you don't know you hypocrite.

[SIXPAK GQ]

"Only the primary person knows him/herself the best."

EXACTLY, quit generalising about people you don't know you hypocrite.

you need to tell that to khushi not me.

[SIXPAK GQ]

and every single girl does this? like shatteredsoul said, quit the generalization. you`ll make yourself look like a fool.

not every single girl, i never said that.....

[ii_khushi86_ii]

you don't really know that, just assuming.

i don`t know my parents?? do you?

i sit down and talk to them every damn day of my life. they are like my best friends to me. and if you think they haven`t told me about problems, they have. they believe i`m mature enough to handle the problems they talk to me about and they do.. i know my parents love each other and are happy. if they weren`t, they would gotten a divorce now.

get your proud head out of the clouds and stop thinking you`re always right.

[ii_khushi86_ii]

you need to tell that to khushi not me.

i`m not the one generalizing.. you are saying "girls are this, girls do that" .. i`m the one saying that SOME girls do, and some girls don`t. re-read everything i said carefully.

1. not every girl goes for the bad guy type
2. not every nice guy finishes last

[nyzdrdevil718]

I totally agree and plus when u have a gf .........girls try hitting on u knowing that u are in a relationship.....

[SIXPAK GQ]

i don`t know my parents?? do you?

i sit down and talk to them every damn day of my life. they are like my best friends to me. and if you think they haven`t told me about problems, they have. they believe i`m mature enough to handle the problems they talk to me about and they do.. i know my parents love each other and are happy. if they weren`t, they would gotten a divorce now.

get your proud head out of the clouds and stop thinking you`re always right.

I dont even know my parents let alone my close family, i am talking about everything, like u share stuff to ur best friends? if ur parents are best friends to you then i consider you blessed....some people stay married just b/c of their kids.........studies show that in USA, 50% of the marriages end up in divorce within the first 2 year.

[Ac89]

I dont even know my parents let alone my close family, i am talking about everything, like u share stuff to ur best friends? if ur parents are best friends to you then i consider you blessed....some people stay married just b/c of their kids.........studies show that in USA, 50% of the marriages end up in divorce within the first 2 year.


how many of those people studied were indian people?

[SIXPAK GQ]

i`m not the one generalizing.. you are saying "girls are this, girls do that" .. i`m the one saying that SOME girls do, and some girls don`t. re-read everything i said carefully.

1. not every girl goes for the bad guy type
2. not every nice guy finishes last

but i never all did i..and never said majority....it all varies...

[ii_khushi86_ii]

I dont even know my parents let alone my close family, i am talking about everything, like u share stuff to ur best friends? if ur parents are best friends to you then i consider you blessed....some people stay married just b/c of their kids.........studies show that in USA, 50% of the marriages end up in divorce within the first 2 year.

and the point i was trying to make is that there are happy couples in the world.. see, you said SOME PEOPLE. finally.. something does go through to your mind after all.

[SIXPAK GQ]

how many of those people studied were indian people?

why does that make a difference. BTW, we are Pakistani

[SIXPAK GQ]

and the point i was trying to make is that there are happy couples in the world.. see, you said SOME PEOPLE. finally.. something does go through to your mind after all.

some people are happy. thats good.....

[Ac89]

why does that make a difference. BTW, we are Pakistani

pakistani...cool.

difference? Maybe I'm naieve in still thinkin this, but isn't divorce higher among non indian people..and more likely to occur in caucassional relationships? From what i know and have heard (at least around where i live and through friends), divorces aren't looked upon nicely among the indian communities...Yes, the number of people having divorces among indian people is starting to gain notice..but am i wrong in my assumption?

[SIXPAK GQ]

pakistani...cool.

difference? Maybe I'm naieve in still thinkin this, but isn't divorce higher among non indian people..and more likely to occur in caucassional relationships? From what i know and have heard (at least around where i live and through friends), divorces aren't looked upon nicely among the indian communities...Yes, the number of people having divorces among indian people is starting to gain notice..but am i wrong in my assumption?

i dont think so, ethnicity has nothing to do with this. we are all humans.....

[PyariPariPri]

oh and by the way.. its the same way the other way around.

you may not hear about it as much but it deffinately does happen.

[SIXPAK GQ]

oh and by the way.. its the same way the other way around.

you may not hear about it as much but it deffinately does happen.

vice versa, i agree with you.

[Ac89]

i dont think so, ethnicity has nothing to do with this. we are all humans.....


wow...didn't know that..hahahaa....Ya i know that...But isn't it more likely that caucassion people will tend to divorce than seek other means in order to resolve marital issues?
If u think about it....caucassion people are more likely to disagree on things such as the sex life in a relationship, the money that one partner makes in a relationship...among other things.
I may be wrong...but I don't believe that you would see indians fight...or disagree among things such as this.

I've always believed that caucassion people are more likely to file for a divorce than indian people.

[SIXPAK GQ]

wow...didn't know that..hahahaa....Ya i know that...But isn't it more likely that caucassion people will tend to divorce than seek other means in order to resolve marital issues?
If u think about it....caucassion people are more likely to disagree on things such as the sex life in a relationship, the money that one partner makes in a relationship...among other things.
I may be wrong...but I don't believe that you would see indians fight...or disagree among things such as this.

I've always believed that caucassion people are more likely to file for a divorce than indian people.


its taboo for desis to get a divorce. media hides it and thats why we don't hear that so much. considering the Indian population is one of the largest in the world, i am sure their rate is high with america.....

[Ac89]

its taboo for desis to get a divorce. media hides it and thats why we don't hear that so much. considering the Indian population is one of the largest in the world, i am sure their rate is high with america.....

maybe but wihtout evidence no one knows for certain. So, your report about there being a 50% divorce rate among American couples could be geared towards caucassion people..and people of all ethnicities.
So, even though a divorce rate is that high, in your argument would it not be better to look at a percent of divorced couples among the indian communities?
For all we know, among that 50%...the indians could ring up as little as 1% or as high as 30.

[r-town_chickee]

its taboo for desis to get a divorce. media hides it and thats why we don't hear that so much. considering the Indian population is one of the largest in the world, i am sure their rate is high with america.....


its taboo for a lot of asian populations to think about divorce. no need to show everyone your dirty laundry.
as for caucasians being more likely to be divorced, its pretty funny when you think about it... in america, much of the caucasian population is catholic, and under the doctrines of catholicism, it isn't permissible to seek a divorce. unless you ask the pope for special permission. i wonder how often the proper protocol is followed. its ridiculous. high divorce rates are an indicator of many things, possibly even including religious backlash.

[SIXPAK GQ]

maybe but wihtout evidence no one knows for certain. So, your report about there being a 50% divorce rate among American couples could be geared towards caucassion people..and people of all ethnicities.
So, even though a divorce rate is that high, in your argument would it not be better to look at a percent of divorced couples among the indian communities?
For all we know, among that 50%...the indians could ring up as little as 1% or as high as 30.


I would like to research the divorce rate among desis.

[Ac89]

its taboo for a lot of asian populations to think about divorce. no need to show everyone your dirty laundry.
as for caucasians being more likely to be divorced, its pretty funny when you think about it... in america, much of the caucasian population is catholic, and under the doctrines of catholicism, it isn't permissible to seek a divorce. unless you ask the pope for special permission. i wonder how often the proper protocol is followed. its ridiculous. high divorce rates are an indicator of many things, possibly even including religious backlash.

i doubt it's followed at all. Assuming it is, what's the likeliness of the pope saying "yes my children...i grant you permission to get a divorce?" lol.

and u really think it's true about the religious backlash? That you can credit many things

[SIXPAK GQ]

its taboo for a lot of asian populations to think about divorce. no need to show everyone your dirty laundry.
as for caucasians being more likely to be divorced, its pretty funny when you think about it... in america, much of the caucasian population is catholic, and under the doctrines of catholicism, it isn't permissible to seek a divorce. unless you ask the pope for special permission. i wonder how often the proper protocol is followed. its ridiculous. high divorce rates are an indicator of many things, possibly even including religious backlash.

not every caucasian follows their religion in america.

[Ac89]

I would like to research the divorce rate among desis.

:-k

would be an interesting find!

[Ac89]

not every caucasian follows their religion in america.


that would be another interesting find...how many people actually follow their religion.

[ShatteredSoul]

Yanno, you totally went off your initial point and made asinine accusations about females that didn't hold up for 2 seconds. Get your story straight and then try to argue a point.

[Ac89]

Yanno, you totally went off your initial point and made asinine accusations about females that didn't hold up for 2 seconds. Get your story straight and then try to argue a point.


trying to argue over the internet ....lol...good one :lollol:

[Vision350z]

i've read some really interesting comments here and i like aurovon's the most, as he laid it down for everyone without holding anything back haha.

as for the girls here accusing me of false and stereotypical generalizations, stop being so freakin defensive. i'm speaking from a completely unbiased perspective. notice how i said it's MOST girls that think that way. not every girl wants the geeky momma's boy. the adventurous guys, which are usually the players that put off that adventurous aura, are the ones that attract the most ladies.

i've had over 10 girlfriends, i think 12 to be exact now and out of that 12, 3 of them have broken up with me for bein a "nice guy". they were all different from each other so i really have no specific taste: they've been from 4'11 to 5'7, from 95lbs to 150lbs, white to desi. i'm pretty much an all-around guy so i'm not that geeky-nice, momma's boy-type (even tho i love my mother). not every girl will like guys that may seem perfect to others, and i've probly just ran into those kinda girls 3 times.

[SIXPAK GQ]

Yanno, you totally went off your initial point and made asinine accusations about females that didn't hold up for 2 seconds. Get your story straight and then try to argue a point.

are you talking to me?

[Ac89]

i've read some really interesting comments here and i like aurovon's the most, as he laid it down for everyone without holding anything back haha.

as for the girls here accusing me of false and stereotypical generalizations, stop being so freakin defensive. i'm speaking from a completely unbiased perspective. notice how i said it's MOST girls that think that way. not every girl wants the geeky momma's boy. the adventurous guys, which are usually the players that put off that adventurous aura, are the ones that attract the most ladies.

i've had over 10 girlfriends, i think 12 to be exact now and out of that 12, 3 of them have broken up with me for bein a "nice guy". they were all different from each other so i really have no specific taste: they've been from 4'11 to 5'7, from 95lbs to 150lbs, white to desi. i'm pretty much an all-around guy so i'm not that geeky-nice, momma's boy-type (even tho i love my mother). not every girl will like guys that may seem perfect to others, and i've probly just ran into those kinda girls 3 times.

thus u proved my point...u'r looking too hard and u want that girl...the "one" really badly.

thas prolly why u ain't found anyone

[Vision350z]

maybe but wihtout evidence no one knows for certain. So, your report about there being a 50% divorce rate among American couples could be geared towards caucassion people..and people of all ethnicities.
So, even though a divorce rate is that high, in your argument would it not be better to look at a percent of divorced couples among the indian communities?
For all we know, among that 50%...the indians could ring up as little as 1% or as high as 30.

the divorce rate doesn't show prove much. do those numbers tell you how many marriages are happy ones? many desi marriages aren't very happy but most of them still don't divorce. i don't see it as white ppl have less successful relationships cuz i think that's bs. infact, it's just my personal opinion, but i think american caucasians have mostly happier marriages than desis do (from the previous generation/s)

[SIXPAK GQ]

the divorce rate doesn't show prove much. do those numbers tell you how many marriages are happy ones? many desi marriages aren't very happy but most of them still don't divorce. i don't see it as white ppl have less successful relationships cuz i think that's bs. infact, it's just my personal opinion, but i think american caucasians have mostly happier marriages than desis do (from the previous generation/s)


good point

[Ac89]

the divorce rate doesn't show prove much. do those numbers tell you how many marriages are happy ones? many desi marriages aren't very happy but most of them still don't divorce. i don't see it as white ppl have less successful relationships cuz i think that's bs. infact, it's just my personal opinion, but i think american caucasians have mostly happier marriages than desis do (from the previous generation/s)


i so disagree with the thing about american caucassions being happier...and i didn't bring up the divorce percent..Sixpack did..i was contesting it...

[Vision350z]

thus u proved my point...u'r looking too hard and u want that girl...the "one" really badly.

thas prolly why u ain't found anyone

lol no not really, i'm never "looking". i think out of those 12 girls, probly 9 of them just happened without expecting it. i don't have anyone i would consider as the "one" really.

[Silk Route]

hmm....nice guyz finish Last by Green day....is a nice song....lolz

[SIXPAK GQ]

bump

[wasteofpaint]

Dear god, are you still going on about this?

[SIXPAK GQ]

Dear god, are you still going on about this?

its not my thread