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Lucky-Charms
July 7th, 2009, 09:16 PM
Music industry v Technology

Maggie Shiels | 10:15 AM, Monday, 6 July 2009

Ringtones - sometimes they are funny, sometimes entertaining, sometimes rude and, yes, sometimes they are just plain annoying.

Boy on mobile phoneRingtones are a multi-billion dollar industry and everyone from Madonna to Charlie Parker and from Wagner to Wang Chung is available for download.

Well now a court in New York is being asked to decide if ringtones can be classed as a public performance and if so the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers, aka ASCAP, wants a piece of the action.

ASCAP has filed a suit in a Manhattan court against the country's two largest wireless carriers AT&T and Verizon. The organisation is a non-profit that collects fees for public performances of music. It then pays royalties to its 350,000 songwriting and publishing members.

Back in the 1990's ASCAP garnered unflattering headlines for suing the Girl Scouts over publicly performing camp songs like "Happy Birthday" and "Puff the Magic Dragon."

Now it is claiming that a ringtone that is played on a cellphone breaches copyright law.

In its brief ASCAP explains when a ringtone becomes a public performance:

"It need only be 'capable' of being performed to the public; whether the ringtone is set to play, and indeed whether anyone hears it, is of no moment."

The brief later states that:

"Whether the device is on or off, the volume is turned down, or the phone is placed on vibrate, AT&T has caused a public performance."

ASCAP has brought a similar action against Verizon but says it won't go after individuals in this fight.

Operators that sell ringtones already pay royalties to songwriters for use of their material.

So it's the music industry versus technology again over copyright.

Naturally enough there are a few groups who have asked the court to throw the whole thing out on its ear.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation, a digital rights group, says:

"[T]hese wrongheaded legal claims cast a shadow over innovators who are building gadgets that help consumers get the most from their copyright privileges."

Public Knowledge and the Centre for Democracy and Technology argue that copyright law exempts performances that are conducted without a commercial purpose.

ASCAP disagrees.

All three groups have said in their amicus brief to the court that they reject as "bogus copyright claims...that could raise costs for consumers, jeopardise consumer rights, and curtail new technological innovation."

EFF's senior intellectual property attorney Fred von Lohman says:

"Are the millions of people who have bought ringtones breaking the law if they forget to silence their phones in a restaurant? Under this reasoning from ASCAP, it would be a copyright violation for you to play your car radio with the window down!"

Fines for copyright infringement are steep. Up to $150,000 (£92,600) per violation.

Lucky-Charms
July 7th, 2009, 09:19 PM
greedy bastards!

Punjabi_Link
July 7th, 2009, 11:54 PM
EFF's senior intellectual property attorney Fred von Lohman says:

"Are the millions of people who have bought ringtones breaking the law if they forget to silence their phones in a restaurant? Under this reasoning from ASCAP, it would be a copyright violation for you to play your car radio with the window down!"

:roflbow:

Thank god Canada doesn't have strict copyright laws.

Lucky-Charms
July 8th, 2009, 08:54 AM
ya but if this gets implemented, does it mean having music on your ipod or mp3 players would be considered a performance and also means for justifying lawsuit against the owner?

Punjabi_Link
July 8th, 2009, 09:51 PM
ya but if this gets implemented, does it mean having music on your ipod or mp3 players would be considered a performance and also means for justifying lawsuit against the owner?

Yeah, unless you pay for it (songs).

Iron_Lungs
July 8th, 2009, 10:25 PM
but how would you control this? if you had to pay for all the music your getting, no one would buy it. think about cds.before burning, you had no choice but to buy. then once burners came out, they started say burning is wrong, pirate, blah blah. but then you seen every few months a new burner comes out.like now, burners for blu-rays are out (i know a bit off topic) but the laws will never be enforced. they mention it to stir-up things.