london gurdwara burned

[punjabimunda97]

LONDON: As flames leapt and smoke billowed out, Sikh hearts cried at the thought of holy scriptures of Sri Guru Granth Sahib getting burnt inside this most famous of the London gurdwaras. That it was a result of a racist attack only added to the pain of the community and a sense of frustration at a time when Sikhs are struggling to tell the western world who they are, and how their religion preaches universal brotherhood.

The two-decade old Gurdwara Sikh Sangat in London was ruined in a fire on Tuesday, and there were many clear indications that it was a racist attack, coming soon after sangat noticed racist graffiti on the gurdwara walls. No injuries were reported.

Eyewitnesses claim they saw the suspected arsonist -- a black or mixed-race man -- leave the gurdwara, situated in Harley Grove, Bow, East London just before flames erupted in one of the holiest parts of the gurdwara.

The blaze, which caused the gurdwara’s roof to collapse, also engulfed all but one of the eight holy books it had housed. The Evening Standard on Tuesday quoted a spokeswoman for the London Fire Brigade as saying that 75 percent of the two-storey building and its roof were damaged in the blaze.


“It is like one of my gods is burning down—we worship our holy books as steps to God,” said one Sikh onlooker.

Ten emergency crews were mobilized from all over East London to the gurdwara, after the Fire Brigade received several 999 calls at 2.10pm. Thermal imaging cameras were used to search the premises for anyone still inside the gurdwara, but the building was clear.

The police also closed off the turning off the main A11 Bow Road while more than 50 firefighters battled the blaze for almost eight hours.

Meanwhile, a Metropolitan police spokesman told another British daily that the police were treating the incident as suspicious and have launched a criminal investigation into the incident.

The fire broke out on the first floor where a women-only prayer session was being held.

The ten women on the floor, some of whom noticed the man’s entry into the gurdwara, said they quickly discovered the fire.

They tried to put it out but were beaten back by the flames and barely managed to escape to safety in the street as the flames swept through the gallery and through the roof of the building.

Gurpal Singh, 35, an IT worker from Chingford and an eyewitness who worships at the temple, said, “Somebody did this deliberately. A man came in and got to the temple's holiest area. He was interrupted by one of the women and managed to get away. As he ran out, the place went up in flames. Everyone panicked. The women tried to put out the fire with buckets of water but it was too fierce.”

Another witness, Sarah Jesson, assistant manager at the Morgan Arms, said, “There’s lots of smoke and huge flames coming out the top of the roof.”

Many worshippers arriving from all over London to witness the blaze were close to tears as they watched the flames sweep through the upper floor of the ornately decorated building.

“It is s difficult to watch because we know what is in the temple,” said one worshipper who arrived at the spot noticing a pall of smoke several streets away.


Kulvinder Singh Virk, 26, who runs a local off-licence and is also a member of the temple, said, “This is very personal for us. It's as if a member of our family has been burnt to death.”

Kamaljet Kaur, a 24-year-old from Stamford Hill, said her aunt was in the temple when the alleged arsonist struck. “All the women thought he was a robber. It was only when they got upstairs that they discovered the fire raging. It is lucky one of them wasn't badly hurt. Often, more than 200 people worship here. Thankfully it was a quiet day,” she said.

One worshipper said that in the past few weeks he had noticed racist graffiti on one of the temple's outer walls.

The building of the Gurdwara Sikh Sangat dates back to 1854 and was formerly a synagogue and before that a chapel. The gurdwara opened in 1979 and has been a vital part of the London Sikh community.

[London_Man]

shabby d with the 1 2 3 :no:

[Z4K5T4R]

What the.. ? Why would people do this sort of things? Regardless of religion what about humanity that there were people inside and could have been killed?

I hope these 'thugs' get arrested and jailed for life, it could be called attempted murder for what they did.

[Caska]

That's terrible. What makes people do such things in Temples, where there will probably mainly be loads of elderly people inside, it's awful.

[Unglorified]

messed up

[PuNjabi_RaNi*]

WTF.

This is completely SCREWED up :no: im shocked.

[DasJa]

I thought london would know by now who a Sikh is. This is dumb.

[London_Man]

I thought london would know by now who a Sikh is. This is dumb.

ALL THOUGH there no one has been charged for the crime... eye witnesses say the people who caused the fire were 'asian'. now people suspect that it was either some muslim guys (that area is highly populated with muslims) or it could be somebody who has a grudge against the people in that gudwara.

[_true_definition]

Its sad that something like this has happened, but at least no one was hurt. For people to be upset is understandable, but for people to say "It is like one of my gods is burning down—we worship our holy books as steps to God"

...The teachings of Sikhism state that God is everywhere so one should keep that in mind to be reminded of whats really important. Sikhs are a resilient race...they'll have the Gurdwara looking new in no time.

[zarahomme]

ALL THOUGH there no one has been charged for the crime... eye witnesses say the people who caused the fire were 'asian'. now people suspect that it was either some muslim guys (that area is highly populated with muslims) or it could be somebody who has a grudge against the people in that gudwara.

just can't keep their hands out of the cookie jar.

[aznpdaddy]

omg thats very very bad i hope the person that did it burns in hell! its not good to damage another religions palce of worship no matter what religion..

it must have been one confused mixed race person.. i thing the person shud be made naked and bald and made to eat sikh shit for the rest of his life and thats the least of his punishments!

absolutely unjustified actions....

[Z4K5T4R]

ALL THOUGH there no one has been charged for the crime... eye witnesses say the people who caused the fire were 'asian'. now people suspect that it was either some muslim guys (that area is highly populated with muslims) or it could be somebody who has a grudge against the people in that gudwara.

Why make such a powerful statement when you don't have back up or proof to it? False rumours create tension amongst communities. Maybe, you should next time stop spreading false rumours unless you know for sure.

This article states otherwise -

Eyewitnesses claim they saw the suspected arsonist -- a black or mixed-race man -- leave the gurdwara, situated in Harley Grove, Bow, East London just before flames erupted in one of the holiest parts of the gurdwara.

I guess it is easy to lay blame on a Muslim.

Hey, what does a Muslim look like? If it's highly populated doesn't necassarily mean crime committed can be by one party.

Foolish ignorant kid.

[zarahomme]

black+muslim =kaching

[aznpdaddy]

ALL THOUGH there no one has been charged for the crime... eye witnesses say the people who caused the fire were 'asian'. now people suspect that it was either some muslim guys (that area is highly populated with muslims) or it could be somebody who has a grudge against the people in that gudwara.
who cares even if it is a muslim...im a muslim you dont see me burning shit... and you wont see a 1001 other muslims i know doing it!

yeah it coudl be a muslim but its not representative of the general populous.. you have to remember in london shit holes exist and bow is one of them shit holes its full of degenerate asians good for nothing all claim their muslims BUT what do they do thats islamic? when was the last time they said salam even to anyone!

they thought the bomber in US was a muslim, turned out he was richard reid!
yeah and there was a muslim guy that planned to kill people in the UK, but people forget he WAS mentally ill patient, so what if somebody is muslim doesnt account for every aspect of an individual...

god didnt say now you are titled muslim you have 'freedom pass' now get on which bus you like and stay of which ones you dont... its who you are and WHAT you do as a muslim that makes you a real muslim. some nutters think doing stuff like that is islamic, but truth is its vastly unislamic, its more of a personal attribute the guys a fucking druggie for all you know!

[Z4K5T4R]

who cares even if it is a muslim...im a muslim you dont see me burning shit... and you wont see a 1001 other muslims i know doing it!

yeah it coudl be a muslim but its not representative of the general populous.. you have to remember in london shit holes exist and bow is one of them shit holes its full of degenerate asians good for nothing all claim their muslims BUT what do they do thats islamic? when was the last time they said salam even to anyone!

they thought the bomber in US was a muslim, turned out he was richard reid!
yeah and there was a muslim guy that planned to kill people in the UK, but people forget he WAS mentally ill patient, so what if somebody is muslim doesnt account for every aspect of an individual...

god didnt say now you are titled muslim you have 'freedom pass' now get on which bus you like and stay of which ones you dont... its who you are and WHAT you do as a muslim that makes you a real muslim. some nutters think doing stuff like that is islamic, but truth is its vastly unislamic, its more of a personal attribute the guys a fucking druggie for all you know!
And if only these ignorant people udnerstood it like this. They forget the other billion muslims when one does something wrong.

[London_Man]

Why make such a powerful statement when you don't have back up or proof to it? False rumours create tension amongst communities. Maybe, you should next time stop spreading false rumours unless you know for sure.

This article states otherwise -



I guess it is easy to lay blame on a Muslim.

Hey, what does a Muslim look like? If it's highly populated doesn't necassarily mean crime committed can be by one party.

Foolish ignorant kid.

u really are fuckin stupid u know... its not false rumours, its what the leaders of the gudwara AND the police have BOTH said.

and if the suspect had been hindu, i would have said, hindu guy, if it was a jew i would have said jewish guy. just because i said it was a muslim doesnt mean ALL muslims are behind it. u need to stop gettin your knickers in a twist everytime someone mentions muslim or islam. i didnt say anything bad towards them... only what the police have saidl.

[London_Man]

who cares even if it is a muslim...im a muslim you dont see me burning shit... and you wont see a 1001 other muslims i know doing it!

yeah it coudl be a muslim but its not representative of the general populous.. you have to remember in london shit holes exist and bow is one of them shit holes its full of degenerate asians good for nothing all claim their muslims BUT what do they do thats islamic? when was the last time they said salam even to anyone!

they thought the bomber in US was a muslim, turned out he was richard reid!
yeah and there was a muslim guy that planned to kill people in the UK, but people forget he WAS mentally ill patient, so what if somebody is muslim doesnt account for every aspect of an individual...

god didnt say now you are titled muslim you have 'freedom pass' now get on which bus you like and stay of which ones you dont... its who you are and WHAT you do as a muslim that makes you a real muslim. some nutters think doing stuff like that is islamic, but truth is its vastly unislamic, its more of a personal attribute the guys a fucking druggie for all you know!

i agree... but just because i said that person could have been a muslim it doesnt mean i am saying muslims approve of his actions or all muslims are like this. just stating the guy is muslim... it would have been the same if the suspect was hindu.

why do u guys always make a big deal out of nothing?

[London_Man]

And if only these ignorant people udnerstood it like this. They forget the other billion muslims when one does something wrong.

and when did i say that all muslims are like the person who commited a certain crime?

YOU ARE SEEING THINGS THAT ARE NOT THERE. i have not once said anything bad about islam so u need to chill the fuck out u slag.

[Z4K5T4R]

u really are fuckin stupid u know... its not false rumours, its what the leaders of the gudwara AND the police have BOTH said.

and if the suspect had been hindu, i would have said, hindu guy, if it was a jew i would have said jewish guy. just because i said it was a muslim doesnt mean ALL muslims are behind it. u need to stop gettin your knickers in a twist everytime someone mentions muslim or islam. i didnt say anything bad towards them... only what the police have saidl.

Dude, you say things in a negative way. I like back up to things even if it was a Hindu guy i'd like to read a back up to it. Not the whole sht about he said this and she said that nonsense!

Did you get bum raped by some Pakistani british Muslim or something hence the frigging chipped shoulder. :shock: If not, you really need to be bumraped sometime to straighten you out, you're so frigging up yourself.

[Z4K5T4R]

and when did i say that all muslims are like the person who commited a certain crime?

YOU ARE SEEING THINGS THAT ARE NOT THERE. i have not once said anything bad about islam so u need to chill the fuck out u slag.

Maybe refer to your earlier thread about Muslims :arrow: and then sht the fk up. Gosh, you like to chase around anything a Muslim does bad, like a scoring card isn't it for you.

[London_Man]

Dude, you say things in a negative way. I like back up to things even if it was a Hindu guy i'd like to read a back up to it. Not the whole sht about he said this and she said that nonsense!

Did you get bum raped by some Pakistani british Muslim or something hence the frigging chipped shoulder. :shock: If not, you really need to be bumraped sometime to straighten you out, you're so frigging up yourself.

i am only repeating what the police have said... if u read my inital post u will see that i am replying to a guy who said he is surprised that people dont know what a sikh is... refering to muslims. so i said, look this wasnt a tradition racial attack from white people but it was by etc etc etc.

grow the fuck up.

[aznpdaddy]

i agree... but just because i said that person could have been a muslim it doesnt mean i am saying muslims approve of his actions or all muslims are like this. just stating the guy is muslim... it would have been the same if the suspect was hindu.

why do u guys always make a big deal out of nothing?
i dont make a big deal bruv, but what you make a small deal out off not everyone will realise that u mean one individual and not the entire religion... if u had written a one liner sayin 'not saying that ALL muslims are suspects' that wud have not sparked me man dem. but hell even bambina cud think its me LOL.... get me starr!

how binis?

[London_Man]

Maybe refer to your earlier thread about Muslims :arrow: and then sht the fk up. Gosh, you like to chase around anything a Muslim does bad, like a scoring card isn't it for you.

once again... i was just point out something funny to the british pakistani's who i happen to get along with nicely.

[Z4K5T4R]

i agree... but just because i said that person could have been a muslim it doesnt mean i am saying muslims approve of his actions or all muslims are like this. just stating the guy is muslim... it would have been the same if the suspect was hindu.

why do u guys always make a big deal out of nothing?

Because peopel liek yourself like to walk around highlighting the fact all the time and even if it isn't a muslim you liek to highlight that too that it could have been. Gosh you are some drama queen and need to grow some balls mate and stop acting so ignorant.

Anyways, regardless of religion like i said earlier either way anything like this is disgraceful and shouldn't be tolerated and still stick to my original post that these guys should be jailed for what they did. (Before you start twistign my words as you seem to be good at that).

[aznpdaddy]

we have a new e-kashmir jung on here! LMAO

[London_Man]

i dont make a big deal bruv, but what you make a small deal out off not everyone will realise that u mean one individual and not the entire religion... if u had written a one liner sayin 'not saying that ALL muslims are suspects' that wud have not sparked me man dem. but hell even bambina cud think its me LOL.... get me starr!

how binis?

ok, so whenever i mention something a muslim guy does... i have to clarify EACH TIME that islam is a religion that doesnt condone his actions.

do i really have to state the obvious everytime i say the word muslim?

[London_Man]

Because peopel liek yourself like to walk around highlighting the fact all the time and even if it isn't a muslim you liek to highlight that too that it could have been. Gosh you are some drama queen and need to grow some balls mate and stop acting so ignorant.

Anyways, regardless of religion like i said earlier either way anything like this is disgraceful and shouldn't be tolerated and still stick to my original post that these guys should be jailed for what they did. (Before you start twistign my words as you seem to be good at that).

i am not twisting your words ur twisting mine. take my word for what it says... and its simple. i dont speak some next language that is hard to understand. i didnt say anything negative about islam or muslims. u read in to that yourself u fuckin wierdo.

[aznpdaddy]

ok, so whenever i mention something a muslim guy does... i have to clarify EACH TIME that islam is a religion that doesnt condone his actions.

do i really have to state the obvious everytime i say the word muslim?
no not really but you could state it sometimes lol... i mean come on blad its hard times for us as it is, we dont need fellow brownies to start creating the sum of all fears for us aswell lol! but i think u shud put it in ur SIG for a few weeks i dont hate moslems.. lets make peace and smoke some!

[London_Man]

no not really but you could state it sometimes lol... i mean come on blad its hard times for us as it is, we dont need fellow brownies to start creating the sum of all fears for us aswell lol! but i think u shud put it in ur SIG for a few weeks i dont hate moslems.. lets make peace and smoke some!

but i dont hate muslims... i dont understand what people like zakstar are smoking... it must be crack or something. reading in to shit that isnt even there.

i know the truth... islam is good religion. that doesnt mean i have to say it everytime i mention muslim or islam.

[Z4K5T4R]

ok, so whenever i mention something a muslim guy does... i have to clarify EACH TIME that islam is a religion that doesnt condone his actions.

do i really have to state the obvious everytime i say the word muslim?
Whyt he feck does religion have to come into it when a Muslim guy does somethign but different when an English man does or say an ''Indian'' man his religion is never mentioned?

[_true_definition]

Calm down children. You should know better than to bicker among yourselves. Knowing what you know!

[Z4K5T4R]

but i dont hate muslims... i dont understand what people like zakstar are smoking... it must be crack or something. reading in to shit that isnt even there.

i know the truth... islam is good religion. that doesnt mean i have to say it everytime i mention muslim or islam.

You know the truth but yet you like to highlight '' a muslim done this what have the rest of you got to say about it'' point all the time. :no: I think all that crack you smoke is doo-la-ling your head mate.

[aznpdaddy]

but i dont hate muslims... i dont understand what people like zakstar are smoking... it must be crack or something. reading in to shit that isnt even there.

i know the truth... islam is good religion. that doesnt mean i have to say it everytime i mention muslim or islam.
ya both smoke tha same shyte its some third class crack... look on her sig thats u and her! hahahah all getting junked up on her crunk...you just jealous blad admit it, hate is love!

[Z4K5T4R]

Calm down children. You should know better than to bicker among yourselves. Knowing what you know!

You're right, ignorant people should be ignored all the time. Damn there's too many of them idiots around.

[aznpdaddy]

Fight Fight Fight Fuck Fight Fight Fight Fuck Fight Fight Fight

[London_Man]

Whyt he feck does religion have to come into it when a Muslim guy does somethign but different when an English man does or say an ''Indian'' man his religion is never mentioned?

well, seeing as it was a religious issue (gudwara) I felt it was necessary to mention it.

true, I could have easily have said it could have been somebody from the Pakistan or Bangladesh communities. but then again, the majority of the people from those communites ARE MUSLIM.

[London_Man]

Calm down children. You should know better than to bicker among yourselves. Knowing what you know!

listen i respect your opinion.... can u tell me what the fuck i said wrong in my first post?

and remember i was replying to someone elses post. holla back.

[Z4K5T4R]

ya both smoke tha same shyte its some third class crack... look on her sig thats u and her! hahahah all getting junked up on her crunk...you just jealous blad admit it, hate is love!


:no: I don't know why you bumlck people on here for really and plan to meet up with these fools. Things can easily be said behind a computer but differently said face2face he may even throw you off tower bridge cus you're a Muslim. :rofl: There will be no-one when you're yelling out ''bachao bachao''.

[London_Man]

You know the truth but yet you like to highlight '' a muslim done this what have the rest of you got to say about it'' point all the time. :no: I think all that crack you smoke is doo-la-ling your head mate.

u love making up stories... when the fuck have i ever done/said that?

listen zakstar... i know i shouldnt say this... ur a muslim. ACT LIKE ONE INSTEAD OF MAKING UP bullSHIT stories and seeing things that are not there.. u love arguing over crap :rofl::rofl::rofl:

[aznpdaddy]

well, seeing as it was a religious issue (gudwara) I felt it was necessary to mention it.

true, I could have easily have said it could have been somebody from the Pakistan or Bangladesh communities. but then again, the majority of the people from those communites ARE MUSLIM.
DONT incinuate blad mandem u know what percentage of these fuckers are really muslim, they all smoke what yall sell!

i think u shud be a man and just roll a joint and smoke it, ill join u!
let the woman type dem think and talk and fight and recite dem views dem!

[aznpdaddy]

:no: I don't know why you bumlck people on here for really and plan to meet up with these fools. Things can easily be said behind a computer but differently said face2face he may even throw you off tower bridge cus you're a Muslim. :rofl: There will be no-one when you're yelling out ''bachao bachao''.
i bumlick.. hmm since when?

hmm lol if u hadnt noticed i mentioned that i didnt like that comment lol...

BUT i am trying to diffuse the situation gosh BLONDE!

stay outta london imma merk u brownie!

i havent swam for a long time, can i get my arm bands london man before you tro me in der!

[London_Man]

DONT incinuate blad mandem u know what percentage of these fuckers are really muslim, they all smoke what yall sell!

i think u shud be a man and just roll a joint and smoke it, ill join u!
let the woman type dem think and talk and fight and recite dem views dem!

when i say muslim i dont mean holy religous muslims... if you were to ask them what religion they are, what would they say? exactly.

[Z4K5T4R]

u love making up stories... when the fuck have i ever done/said that?

listen zakstar... i know i shouldnt say this... ur a muslim. ACT LIKE ONE INSTEAD OF MAKING UP bullSHIT stories and seeing things that are not there.. u love arguing over crap :rofl::rofl::rofl:


:rofl: Act like a decent man not a f4g. :arrow:

[London_Man]

i bumlick.. hmm since when?

hmm lol if u hadnt noticed i mentioned that i didnt like that comment lol...

BUT i am trying to diffuse the situation gosh BLONDE!

stay outta london imma merk u brownie!

i havent swam for a long time, can i get my arm bands london man before you tro me in der!

fuck that... zakstar can join u in the river thames too :hand:

[London_Man]

:rofl: Act like a decent man not a f4g. :arrow:

once again i proved u wrong so u have to move away from the intial discussion to name calling. how grown up :-|

[_true_definition]

listen i respect your opinion.... can u tell me what the fuck i said wrong in my first post?

and remember i was replying to someone elses post. holla back.


You know that certain subjects are sensitive and may bother some people right now. Saying that I'm not implying you are wrong, because you're just stating your opinion. I can also see it from their point of view as I wouldn't like to be painted by the same brush for the actions of someone part of my race, religion or colour. No ones really at fault here so just agree to disagree.

[London_Man]

You know that certain subjects are sensitive and may bother some people right now. Saying that I'm not implying you are wrong, because you're just stating your opinion. I can also see it from their point of view as I wouldn't like to be painted by the same brush for the actions of someone part of my race, religion or colour. No ones really at fault here so just agree to disagree.

but do u not feel she is reading in to something that is not there?

i didnt say all muslims are like that... do i need to clarify it everytime i say the words islam or muslim?

people should take my word for what it is... if i had said all muslims are like that i could understand why she is acting like a slapper.... but i didnt say shit.

[Z4K5T4R]

i bumlick.. hmm since when?

hmm lol if u hadnt noticed i mentioned that i didnt like that comment lol...

BUT i am trying to diffuse the situation gosh BLONDE!

stay outta london imma merk u brownie!

i havent swam for a long time, can i get my arm bands london man before you tro me in der!Oh yeh you can't swim that's a shame we going to have to get another RDer to lift you out the water and defo not me as you're too fat for me to save.

[Z4K5T4R]

You know that certain subjects are sensitive and may bother some people right now. Saying that I'm not implying you are wrong, because you're just stating your opinion. I can also see it from their point of view as I wouldn't like to be painted by the same brush for the actions of someone part of my race, religion or colour. No ones really at fault here so just agree to disagree.

Why don't you go and read his other posts in other threads not just this particular one and then make a judgement on what he's stating.

Read the one especially about people wanting to pray at their work place.

Like i said it's not just this post generally read what the weirdo types and then later says differently.

[Z4K5T4R]

once again i proved u wrong so u have to move away from the intial discussion to name calling. how grown up :-|

Oh great he has proved me wrong...again.

Do you ever think to yourself you are really immature and sad? :rolleyes:

[_true_definition]

but do u not feel she is reading in to something that is not there?

i didnt say all muslims are like that... do i need to clarify it everytime i say the words islam or muslim?

people should take my word for what it is... if i had said all muslims are like that i could understand why she is acting like a slapper.... but i didnt say shit.


You're right. You did not imply that all Muslims are like that. I dunno any more man. We seem to always end up fighting amongst ourselves, it doesn't matter whose fault it is. We all need to chill out and remember, first and foremost we are humans and then we are colours, religion and race!

[London_Man]

Oh great he has proved me wrong...again.

Do you ever think to yourself you are really immature and sad? :rolleyes:

immature? coming from the person who ALWAYS takes the discussion off topic, makes up stories, and starts childish name calling in every thread that mentions the word islam. dont make me laugh :rofl::rofl::rofl:

[London_Man]

You're right. You did not imply that all Muslims are like that. I dunno any more man. We seem to always end up fighting amongst ourselves, it doesn't matter whose fault it is. We all need to chill out and remember, first and foremost we are humans and then we are colours, religion and race!

*NOTE TO ZAKSTAR*

i can understand why she is saying what she is saying... but she has me confused with proper muslim bashers.

u see when people say, oh people think islam this and that.... what zakstar this is what u do to non muslims such as myself. shame on you.

[Z4K5T4R]

immature? coming from the person who ALWAYS takes the discussion off topic, makes up stories, and starts childish name calling in every thread that mentions the word islam. dont make me laugh :rofl::rofl::rofl:

:rofl: You can TALK! My days you are the most ignorant and two faced person around. By the way i take into consideration your other comment sin other threads not just this one to come up with a point.

And you of course like to take into consideration my other comments and twist it to suit yourself.

And as always I say to you, Adios!

[London_Man]

:rofl: You can TALK! My days you are the most ignorant and two faced person around. By the way i take into consideration your other comment sin other threads not just this one to come up with a point.

And you of course like to take into consideration my other comments and twist it to suit yourself.

And as always I say to you, Adios!

as always ur pissing off when u have been proved wrong. i believe this is the third time in the last few discussions.

London_Man 3 - 0 Z4K5T4R :wavey:

[_true_definition]

:no:
You shouldn't care what people say about your religion. Not everyone will agree to your views and not everyone will respect your religion and theres not much you can do about that I'm afraid. This is a prime example of why I don't believe in religion...do you ever hear about religion causing peace?

[London_Man]

:no:
You shouldn't care what people say about your religion. Not everyone will agree to your views and not everyone will respect your religion and theres not much you can do about that I'm afraid. This is a prime example of why I don't believe in religion...do you ever hear about religion causing peace?

only to people WITHIN that religion... but then again some religious groups have issues of their own to deal with. not naming names cos i might accused of inciting racial hatred again :no:

[Unglorified]

London_Man and Z4kster need their own little forum!

[PuNjabi_RaNi*]

sort yourselves out - sheesh, shame on the brit camp!

[DasJa]

ALL THOUGH there no one has been charged for the crime... eye witnesses say the people who caused the fire were 'asian'. now people suspect that it was either some muslim guys (that area is highly populated with muslims) or it could be somebody who has a grudge against the people in that gudwara.

At this point, anyone's a suspect really.

Logic would assume it could more likely be a racist skinhead. But we can't neglect the suspect could also be 'asian'. I know Hindu's would never do anything like this unless it's in India and they're in a mob (coz we're coward like dat :cool: ) ... and christian Indians are more or less cool everywhere. Could be a muslim kid, or an african-american racist who thought a bunch of Osama's is reason enough.

[sweet_like_choc]

At this point, anyone's a suspect really.

Logic would assume it could more likely be a racist skinhead. But we can't neglect the suspect could also be 'asian'. I know Hindu's would never do anything like this unless it's in India and they're in a mob (coz we're coward like dat :cool: ) ... and christian Indians are more or less cool everywhere. Could be a muslim kid, or an african-american racist who thought a bunch of Osama's is reason enough.

Yes, never ever. Those Hindus are so peaceful, Hindustan has always demonstrated this =) Dasja you are very intellectual inshallah.

[C0nvers3_B0y]

Yes, never ever. Those Hindus are so peaceful, Hindustan has always demonstrated this =) Dasja you are very intellectual inshallah.

"you are very intellectual god willingly"; that is so fucked up :rofl:

[London_Man]

London_Man and Z4kster need their own little forum!

that zakstar needs to get a fucking life. she thinks anyone non muslim mentions islam and its gotta be in a negative way:-|

At this point, anyone's a suspect really.

Logic would assume it could more likely be a racist skinhead. But we can't neglect the suspect could also be 'asian'. I know Hindu's would never do anything like this unless it's in India and they're in a mob (coz we're coward like dat :cool: ) ... and christian Indians are more or less cool everywhere. Could be a muslim kid, or an african-american racist who thought a bunch of Osama's is reason enough.

well me living in london my whole... i would be very surprised to hear that the suspect was a skin head racist... u dont get those type of people in that area and usually crime associated with those people is usually committed within their own areas.

Yes, never ever. Those Hindus are so peaceful, Hindustan has always demonstrated this =) Dasja you are very intellectual inshallah.

when have u ever heard of a hindu protest (outside of india) turning violent or them turning in to a mobb like we have seen many many times with the muslims in this country?

the only story pops to mind is the cow slaughter thing in wales and even that was a peaceful protest.

[DasJa]

Yes, never ever. Those Hindus are so peaceful, Hindustan has always demonstrated this =) Dasja you are very intellectual inshallah.

Yeah, but you're quite dumb and didn't get the point I was trying to make.

[Unglorified]

Yeah, but you're quite dumb and didn't get the point I was trying to make.

What point were you trying to make?

[harvey_mayway]

doesnt london have a million CCTV camera,.. someone must of recorded something

[DasJa]

What point were you trying to make?

READ WHAT I WROTE. It's in plain english :ugh2:

[Unglorified]

READ WHAT I WROTE. It's in plain english :ugh2:

I read.

I guess, you didnt understand what choc said to you.

;)

[DasJa]

I read.

I guess, you didnt understand what choc said to you.

;)

Are you dumb AND judgemental?? You're headed for nowhere young man :no:

[London_Man]

Are you dumb AND judgemental?? You're headed for nowhere young man :no:

she's a chick :-|

[Unglorified]

Are you dumb AND judgemental?? You're headed for nowhere young man :no:

you are weird.

[hakuna-matata]

Really sad. I don't understand how people can be fooled into thinking that their religion asks them to do such things.

[desihiphop]

these ppl who do it, are not representatives of any religion
so why bring it in, these were some stupid Bengali kidz from
Tower Hamlets probably as if they know what ISLAM is !?!?!

[Z4K5T4R]

these ppl who do it, are not representatives of any religion
so why bring it in, these were some stupid Bengali kidz from
Tower Hamlets probably as if they know what ISLAM is !?!?!


:rofl: They know jack sht. Balling in their bimmer cruising checking out girls in hijabis'. Eid day is mad - religious day that they seem to be able to turn into opposite. When you get taught throoughout Ramadan value of food, materials... come Eid day that's all demolished when they hire their vehicle and go and eat at McDonalds! :rofl:

It's not a religious hatred it's a cultural clash.

[desihiphop]

:rofl: They know jack sht. Balling in their bimmer cruising checking out girls in hijabis'. Eid day is mad - religious day that they seem to be able to turn into opposite. When you get taught throoughout Ramadan value of food, materials... come Eid day that's all demolished when they hire their vehicle and go and eat at McDonalds! :rofl:

It's not a religious hatred it's a cultural clash.

lolzz yeah exactly, and then they eat Fish Filet only ! wth lol
...complete bunch of idiots !