Vagisil hates Gandhi

[TDSR]

Gandhi was a dick, nothing great about him. India's economic and social problems, along with the religious tentions exist today, all cause of him.

You're an idiot. Without Gandhi, there would be no India.

fuck u mate
u better remember that india would be a greater place without gandhi, that guy said yes to, too many british demands. all those other freedom fighters that were killed, name u so many. but nvm.
Gandhi was a fucking dick.

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He be srs! :Ohno:

[HU55AIN]

Most Indians love him..:|
I guess we can rule Vsaigal out.

[TDSR]

Most Indians love him..:|
I guess we can rule Vsaigal out.

There would probably be no Pakistan without Gandhi either.

[house-fly]

OMG GANDHI MY grandpa!

[HU55AIN]

There would probably be no Pakistan without Gandhi either.

I doubt it. Without Jinnah maybe.

[London_Man]

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He be srs! :Ohno:

yeah and what your point?

thats his opinion and everybody is entitled to one.

there is no need to start bitchin like a bitch is there?!??!

[vsaigal]

There would probably be no Pakistan without Gandhi either.

that might be the reason why i hate him.

[vsaigal]

I doubt it. Without Jinnah maybe.

they are few to blame.

Gandhi, Jinnah and Nehru.

[hakuna-matata]

He's not the first. Alot of people I know in real life dislike him too.

[vsaigal]

OMG GANDHI MY grandpa!

he's the number one . Class A chutia.

[vsaigal]

He's not the first. Alot of people I know in real life dislike him too.

thank you.

[TDSR]

I doubt it. Without Jinnah maybe.

Gandhi helped free the British subcontinent. It is only after him that Jinnah and others proceeded to divide the remains. There was no concept of "Pakistan" or "India". Gandhi fought for all the territories in the colony, including those in modern day Pakistan.

[vsaigal]

Gandhi helped free the British subcontinent. It is only after him that Jinnah and others proceeded to divide the remains. There was no concept of "Pakistan" or "India". Gandhi fought for all the territories in the colony, including those in modern day Pakistan.

your believing what they taught u. tsssk. :no:

[TDSR]

yeah and what your point?

thats his opinion and everybody is entitled to one.

there is no need to start bitchin like a bitch is there?!??!

Yea and opinions are like asses... some of them are full of shit.

your believing what they taught u. tsssk. :no:

"They" who?

[vsaigal]

Yea and opinions are like asses... some of them are full of shit.

dude, gandhi was a dick. along with nehru, and jinnah.

[vsaigal]

"They" who?

:lol:

[TDSR]

dude, gandhi was a dick. along with nehru, and jinnah.

Since when is a man preaching non-violence, equality and brotherhood a dick?

[London_Man]

Yea and opinions are like asses... some of them are full of shit.



ur bitchin like a bitch. end of. :-|

[HU55AIN]

Gandhi helped free the British subcontinent. It is only after him that Jinnah and others proceeded to divide the remains. There was no concept of "Pakistan" or "India". Gandhi fought for all the territories in the colony, including those in modern day Pakistan.

Since your talking of British and the whole sub-cont. Then yeh, he was a leading figure that wanted to gain independance..Like you said, Pakistan wasnt even on the agenda until Jinnah. Therefore, their wasnt any need until someone brought the idea up, which wasnt Gandhi, but Jinnah.

[gooberloo]

:D:cool::Pelvic2:

[vsaigal]

Since when is a man preaching non-violence, equality and brotherhood a dick?

the exact reasons.

he didnt follow anything he preached.

[TDSR]

ur bitchin like a bitch. end of. :-|

You owe your independance, in part at least to Gandhi. See Hussain's post below.

[TDSR]

the exact reasons.

he didnt follow anything he preached.

Example?

[vsaigal]

Since your talking of British and the whole sub-cont. Then yeh, he was a leading figure that wanted to gain independance..Like you said, Pakistan wasnt even on the agenda until Jinnah. Therefore, their wasnt any need until someone brought the idea up, which wasnt Gandhi, but Jinnah.

if gandhi had never agreed, nor wud have the british.



they are reasons why pakistan is suffering today. it was a bad idea.

[vsaigal]

Example?

im not gonna bother giving u evidence.

[vsaigal]

:D:cool::Pelvic2:

why are u here?

[TDSR]

im not gonna bother giving u evidence.

Just as I thought. You're full of shit.

[London_Man]

You owe your independance, in part at least to Gandhi. See Hussain's post below.

i have yet to express my opinion on Ghandi. i have not uttered a word on what my views are on that man. dont assume that just because i am calling u a bitch for putting down someone else opinions(vsaigal) that my views are in line with theirs.

[TDSR]

i have yet to express my opinion on Ghandi. i have not uttered a word on what my views are on that man. dont assume that just because i am calling u a bitch for putting down someone else opinions(vsaigal) that my views are in line with theirs.

I don't have to respect opinions that are ill informed.

[London_Man]

I don't have to respect opinions that are ill informed.

take ghandi ji's advice on what u said. i am sure there is a quote somewhere... let me see if i can find it.

its smoothing along the lines of love thy neighbour regardless of their religion skin colour etc etc. let me find it before i misquote him.

[TDSR]

take ghandi ji's advice on what u said. i am sure there is a quote somewhere... let me see if i can find it.

its smoothing along the lines of love thy neighbour regardless of their religion skin colour etc etc. let me find it before i misquote him.

I'm not judging vagisil by the colour of his skin, but by the content of his character (or lack thereof).

King.

[aspaan]

Gamdhi was a racist and used to sleep naked with underage teens

[TDSR]

Gamdhi was a racist and used to sleep naked with underage teens

Earlier in his life. He changed.

And he never actually slept with naked underaged girls.

I've heard these two before.

[London_Man]

I'm not judging vagisil by the colour of his skin, but by the content of his character (or lack thereof).

King.


lol yes... well... thats what he tryin to say. regardless of what they are or say.... learn to love them. it will improve u as a person.

Gamdhi was a racist and used to sleep naked with underage teens

yes he did... but he did not mean any harm by it... and he didnt have sexual intercourse with any of them!

[aspaan]

Earlier in his life. He changed.

And he never actually slept with naked underaged girls.

I've heard these two before.

maybe you should read his auto biodgraphy

this is a quote from Time

Gandhi spent years testing his self-discipline by sleeping beside young women. He evidently cared little about any psychological damage to the women involved. He also expected his four sons to be as self-denying as he was.

http://www.time.com/time/time100/poc/magazine/mohandas_gandhi12b.html

[aspaan]

yes he did... but he did not mean any harm by it... and he didnt have sexual intercourse with any of them!

lol so its ok if your sister or dauhgter sleeps naked with an old man just because he wants to test his self control. no penetration no harm done right? :rofl:

[London_Man]

lol so its ok if your sister or dauhgter sleeps naked with an old man just because he wants to test his self control. no penetration no harm done right? :rofl:

LOL ok... maybe that is not the best way for one to test their self control.

[aspaan]

here is a clip from Penn and teller bullshit

the scene starts with what Gandhi wrote in his periodicals about black people in South Africa

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[TDSR]

lol so its ok if your sister or dauhgter sleeps naked with an old man just because he wants to test his self control. no penetration no harm done right? :rofl:

I've read that biography already.

He evidently cared little about any psychological damage to the women involved.
This is speculation at best.

[London_Man]

I've read that biography already.


This is speculation at best.

utter speculation of course.

[Mr_Mention]

Partition, loss of lives were around One Million.....

who is to blame British? Indians asked for it and British fullfilled it.

Jinna being ambitious politician wanted to lead nation . Nehru wanted same as he was also one of those ambitious politicians ....This led to Partitioning the Punjab & Bengal...
It was the mistake of Gandhi. Gandhi created so many politicians.
Nation had not got freedom yet. But politicians were already there

[aspaan]

I've read that biography already.


This is speculation at best.


ofcourse he care about those girls while rubbing his shrivelled cock against them, ofcourse it will not traumatize a teenager

its like saying a murderer who cared about his victims health

but its speculation :rofl:

what I dont get is why are people areguing this point he was plain blunt sicko, bottom line is I wouldnt want a sick fuck like him near my family

TDSR you go ahead and give females of your family to Gandhi to to test his self control. you will do the country a big service

[London_Man]

ofcourse he care about those girls while rubbing his shrivelled cock against them, ofcourse it will not traumatize a teenager

its like saying a murderer who cared about his victims health

but its speculation

what I dont get is why are people areguing this point he was plain blunt sicko, bottom line is I wouldnt want a sick fuck like him near my family

TDSR you go ahead and give females of your family to Gandhi to to test his self control. you will do the country a big service

look... lets not resort to childish behaviour.

is there proof he had sexual relations with these girls?

is there proof he didnt?

the likely outcome will be the evidence cancelling each other out and we will all be back to square one again.

[aspaan]

look... lets not resort to childish behaviour.

is there proof he had sexual relations with these girls?

is there proof he didnt?

the likely outcome will be the evidence cancelling each other out and we will all be back to square one again.

who talked about sexual relations

forget it is gandhi now read the following sentence

an old man sleeps naked with teenagers to test his self control

you have no problem with that, you still would call that man mahatma?

if you have no problem then you would have no problem sending your sister or daughter to any old man's house to test his self control

if you do then you are hypocrite

[London_Man]

who talked about sexual relations

forget it is gandhi now read the following sentence

an old man sleeps naked with teenagers to test his self control

you have no problem with that, you still would call that man mahatma?

if you have no problem then you would have no problem sending your sister or daughter to any old man's house to test his self control

if you do then you are hypocrite

fuck that. cant have constructive conversation with ignorant people like you.

Gone

[aspaan]

fuck that. cant have constructive conversation with ignorant people like you.

Gone

lol nice one

you know you have no answer for simple as that

I still dont get why you are defending him on this subject.

and I am ignorant you are the one who thinks its ok for old people to sleep with your siter. :rofl:

and btw

thats how you get

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee160/Mind_Detergent/owned.jpg

[Hands]

ghandi used to sleep with underage boys :|

[London_Man]

lol nice one

you know you have no answer for simple as that

I still dont get why you are defending him on this subject.

and I am ignorant you are the one who thinks its ok for old people to sleep with your siter. :rofl:

and btw

thats how you get

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee160/Mind_Detergent/owned.jpg

well u r being ignorant as ur speaking WITHOUT KNOWING THE FACTS.

[aspaan]

well u r being ignorant as ur speaking WITHOUT KNOWING THE FACTS.

please educate us on the facts

[.BestKeptSecret.]

damn khalistani's

[vsaigal]

come on TDSR its all out there.

he slept with underage boys and girls.

slept with multiple woman. did not practice a non racist life.

he was scum, sold india for his own benefit, im happy they killed him.

[vsaigal]

damn khalistani's

:lol:

[RacingSoul]

I doubt it. Without Jinnah maybe.

No.

Gandhi was the one to give in to his demands. If there was no Gandhi, Jinnah would just be a roaring cloud full of air because no other political leader of the time accepted the concept of Pakistan.

[RacingSoul]

come on TDSR its all out there.

he slept with underage boys and girls.

slept with multiple woman. did not practice a non racist life.

he was scum, sold india for his own benefit, im happy they killed him.

come up with better reasons to hate him than that immature shit you're bleeding out of your anus.

[vsaigal]

come up with better reasons to hate him than that immature shit you're bleeding out of your anus.

fuck madarchood sold pakistan, just so he could get india.

[vsaigal]

No.

Gandhi was the one to give in to his demands. If there was no Gandhi, Jinnah would just be a roaring cloud full of air because no other political leader of the time accepted the concept of Pakistan.

the exact bhenchood reason why i hate him.

[TDSR]

fuck madarchood sold pakistan, just so he could get india.

What? You want Pakistan to be a part of India again?

[RacingSoul]

fuck madarchood sold pakistan, just so he could get india.

India would be a bigger shithole today if Pakistan hadn't formed. He didn't "sell" India, just did what was necessary at the time for independence. Don't forget the pressure he was under from all directions to get people what he promised..freedom.

[vsaigal]

What? You want Pakistan to be a part of India again?

not now.

no point.

but if it hadnt been done before it wud have been betta.

[RacingSoul]

the exact bhenchood reason why i hate him.

I'm actually glad they gave'em Pakistan.

[vsaigal]

India would be a bigger shithole today if Pakistan hadn't formed. He didn't "sell" India, just did what was necessary at the time for independence. Don't forget the pressure he was under from all directions to get people what he promised..freedom.

look at pakistan today.

im positive the states in north(pakistan) would have helped in excel. and interchangeably.

[vsaigal]

I'm actually glad they gave'em Pakistan.

i come from one of those families, that lost members, money, everything when they had to get up and leave.

it wasnt right.

[RacingSoul]

look at pakistan today.

im positive the states in north(pakistan) would have helped in excel. and interchangeably.

my point exactly! Pakistan is fucked up and you want India to be part of that?

northern states what? :-s

[vsaigal]

my point exactly! Pakistan is fucked up and you want India to be part of that?

northern states what? :-s

NWFP, and Punjab. oh and Azad Kashmir.

fuck the other states. lol.

[RacingSoul]

i come from one of those families, that lost members, money, everything when they had to get up and leave.

it wasnt right.

you're not the only one :idea:

don't make this an issue out of personal misfortunes...are you starving now? no shelter? No...as far as I know from one of your own threads, you are quite "well-off".

[RacingSoul]

NWFP, and Punjab. oh and Azad Kashmir.

fuck the other states. lol.

what about those states? what are you trying to say?

[vsaigal]

you're not the only one :idea:

don't make this an issue out of personal misfortunes...are you starving now? no shelter? No...as far as I know from one of your own threads, you are quite "well-off".

im not the only one. i know.

and nor am i suffering in any manner. but im just thinking about how india would have been a better place if Gandhi had never agreed.

[RacingSoul]

im not the only one. i know.

and nor am i suffering in any manner. but im just thinking about how india would have been a better place if Gandhi had never agreed.

India is a better place right now.

[vsaigal]

what about those states? what are you trying to say?

the amount of wealth that could have come out of those places.

india would have benefited, the people of those regions would have as well.

i am for the argument that pakistan would have been a better place, if they had been governed by india.

not anymore thou, they is no saving the.

[vsaigal]

India is a better place right now.

:no: fuck off man.

[foreverconfused]

NWFP, and Punjab. oh and Azad Kashmir.

fuck the other states. lol.

You think ownership of the NWFP would benefit India? that's probably the most useless state in pakistan.

I'm glad the two separated, but if they hadn't, the only state worth keeping would have been Sindh. what a mess. West Punjab was too full of militant extremists to keep.

[RacingSoul]

the amount of wealth that could have come out of those places.

india would have benefited, the people of those regions would have as well.

i am for the argument that pakistan would have been a better place, if they had been governed by india.

not anymore thou, they is no saving the.

wealth my ass! All those states would do is try and convert the whole of Northern India to Islam. And if they are so "beneficial" as you claim, why can't they pull their act together right now and focus on prosperity? They're not beneficial because they're not capable.

[HU55AIN]

Most muslim wanted to split and when millions of ppl demand that at a time of partition they usually get it. Doesnt matter if our country is having problems. Atleast we are free from non muslim rule and thats what matters. Gandhi, Jinnah or what ever...im sure we would have still got independance from the British.

[RacingSoul]

:no: fuck off man.

you're full of shit.

all hocus-pocus, no substance.

[foreverconfused]

the amount of wealth that could have come out of those places.

india would have benefited, the people of those regions would have as well.

i am for the argument that pakistan would have been a better place, if they had been governed by india.

not anymore thou, they is no saving the.

Pakistan may have been a better place if it had been governed by India, but I'm not sure India would have benefited in the long run.

It would have prevented millions of deaths and displacements though.

[vsaigal]

Most muslim wanted to split and when millions of ppl demand that at a time of partition they usually get it. Doesnt matter if our country is having problems. Atleast we are free from non muslim rule and thats what matters. Gandhi, Jinnah or what ever...im sure we would have still got independance from the British.

i can contest this. im positive. its not for the better.

[vsaigal]

Pakistan may have been a better place if it had been governed by India, but I'm not sure India would have benefited in the long run.

It would have prevented millions of deaths and displacements though.

the amount of money in nwfp, and punjab. lol. :no:

some ppl here jus dont understand.

[HU55AIN]

i can contest this. im positive. its not for the better.

Well, It doesnt really matter...

Out leaders are muslim, thats what matters. Even though they are corrupt bastards. Some people only feel what you feel because loss of land and people. The problems in Pakistan only came to light past 8 years. Pakistan has made decent progress since then..

[Fresh-Connection]

Who cares what he has goto say, look at that beautiful head of his.....

No not ghandi but visagal :love:

[vsaigal]

Well, It doesnt really matter...

Out leaders are muslim, thats what matters. Even though they are corrupt bastards. Some people only feel what you feel because loss of land and people. The problems in Pakistan only came to light past 8 years. Pakistan has made decent progress since then..

no way. it would have been ok if jinnah hadn't died/lied and stayed around.

that jus started a chain reaction.

bad leaders, corrupt officials. using islam as a means to make money.

[vsaigal]

Who cares what he has goto say, look at that beautiful head of his.....

No not ghandi but visagal :love:

your getting irritating.

want some http://www.77canadapharmacy.com/images/product/V/vagisil.jpg

[HU55AIN]

no way. it would have been ok if jinnah hadn't died/lied and stayed around.

that jus started a chain reaction.

bad leaders, corrupt officials. using islam as a means to make money.

What you think of sikhs wanting their won homeland? Khalistan..

and Jinnah was a good leader, he listened to what his ppl wanted.


There is nothing special about India...Its population is much poorer compared to Pakistans in comparison. It can just about cope with current population, nevermind another 300 million.

There is alot of fighting within India...internal conflicts (maoists)

[vsaigal]

What you think of sikhs wanting their won homeland? Khalistan..

and Jinnah was a good leader, he listened to what his ppl wanted.


There is nothing special about India...Its population is much poorer compared to Pakistans in comparison. It can just about cope with current population, nevermind another 300 million.

There is alot of fighting within India...internal conflicts (maoists)

khalistan is bullshit, im a punjabi hindu. u can imagine how i feel on the issue.

[TDSR]

What you think of sikhs wanting their won homeland? Khalistan..

and Jinnah was a good leader, he listened to what his ppl wanted.


There is nothing special about India...Its population is much poorer compared to Pakistans in comparison. It can just about cope with current population, nevermind another 300 million.

There is alot of fighting within India...internal conflicts (maoists)

No it isn't. The per capita GDP is much higher in India.

[HU55AIN]

khalistan is bullshit, im a punjabi hindu. u can imagine how i feel on the issue.

lol. Well, Everyone has a right to self-determination. Lets leave it at that.

[TDSR]

And the majority of Khalistanis (there aren't that many left world wide) are actually outside of India. In fact most are just located in B.C.

[HU55AIN]

No it isn't. The per capita GDP is much higher in India.

Thats just a average, The gap between the rich and poor is alot bigger in India then Pakistan....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_percentage_of_population_livi ng_in_poverty

[TDSR]

Thats just a average, The gap between the rich and poor is alot bigger in India then Pakistan....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_percentage_of_population_livi ng_in_poverty

Look at your source again. Pakistan has a higher percentage living below the poverty line than India.

[HU55AIN]

Look at your source again. Pakistan has a higher percentage living below the poverty line than India.

I did. Right table is disputed, since one says India is higher and other column says pakistans is higher.

Table on left, shows...Indian pop living less then $2 and $1 a day..India is significantly higher.

[TDSR]

I did. Right table is disputed, since one says India is higher and other column says pakistans is higher.

Table on left, shows...Indian pop living less then $2 and $1 a day..India is significantly higher.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/Percent_poverty_world_map.PNG

^^There's no dispute here.

Also, the percentage below $2 is even.

And according to this, Pakistan is experiencing much higher rates of inflation than India.

http://devdata.worldbank.org/AAG/ind_aag.pdf

http://devdata.worldbank.org/AAG/pak_aag.pdf

So in the end the Pak population is suffering more. Inflation is just the tip of it, look at the rest of the data. Pakistan is worse off than India, by quite a stretch.

[dayven]

traitor.....lets burn his ass....

[foreverconfused]

the amount of money in nwfp, and punjab. lol. :no:

some ppl here jus dont understand.

To make money off a region, you must first be able to control it. There is no way of controlling the NWFP or even Pakistani Punjab, because of the amount of militant Islamic extremism there.

Pakistan is a failed state. It is finished. I think it will dissolve into a number of different states in the next twenty years, because it is impossible to unify and govern that country, those two states in particular.

[HU55AIN]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/Percent_poverty_world_map.PNG

^^There's no dispute here.

Also, the percentage below $2 is even.

And according to this, Pakistan is experiencing much higher rates of inflation than India.

http://devdata.worldbank.org/AAG/ind_aag.pdf

http://devdata.worldbank.org/AAG/pak_aag.pdf

So in the end the Pak population is suffering more. Inflation is just the tip of it, look at the rest of the data. Pakistan is worse off than India, by quite a stretch.

First link doesnt even have a proper key :| doesnt say wts it is representing.

Secondly, Inflation changes all the time and shouldnt really be used as a indicator to show the poverty of a country, as long as inflation doesnt spiral out of control. Every country is experiencing higher inflation.

Information on such countries is hard to get accurate data..

[zarahomme]

Most muslim wanted to split and when millions of ppl demand that at a time of partition they usually get it. Doesnt matter if our country is having problems. Atleast we are free from non muslim rule and thats what matters. Gandhi, Jinnah or what ever...im sure we would have still got independance from the British.

lol...a lotta good that did u.........i think u forget most pakistani ppl were converted from hinduism and other dharmic religions, but u are just in denial and because u are new to the religion..u really have this urge in urselves to prove that u are true believers ..:idea:
sorry if i offended any pakis and burst their bubble...but its the truth

[TDSR]

First link doesnt even have a proper key :| doesnt say wts it is representing.

Secondly, Inflation changes all the time and shouldnt really be used as a indicator to show the poverty of a country, as long as inflation doesnt spiral out of control. Every country is experiencing higher inflation.

Information on such countries is hard to get accurate data..

It's the poverty line, it's from your own link.

And inflation is a good historical indicator as it leads to the PPP comparison. Pakistan's inflation remains higher.

[HU55AIN]

lol...a lotta good that did u.........i think u forget most pakistani ppl were converted from hinduism and other dharmic religions, but u are just in denial and because u are new to the religion..u really have this urge in urselves to prove that u are true believers ..:idea:
sorry if i offended any pakis and burst their bubble...but its the truth

That just shows how stupid you are. Yes, Islam is younger them Hinduism, so what?

We have nothing to prove.

Another thing, the current location of pakistan has been invaded and conqurered many times in history...so, were not all Indian.

and i havent forgotten anything about religion. Your just like some other people abit pissed off the current reality about the divisions of pakistan and india.

[TDSR]

That just shows how stupid you are. Yes, Islam is younger them Hinduism, so what?

We have nothing to prove.

Another thing, the current location of pakistan has been invaded and conqurered many times in history...so, were not all Indian.

and i havent forgotten anything about religion. Your just like some other people abit pissed off the current reality about the divisions of pakistan and india.

Most Pakistanis are either wholly or mostly "Desi".

[zarahomme]

That just shows how stupid you are. Yes, Islam is younger them Hinduism, so what?

We have nothing to prove.

Another thing, the current location of pakistan has been invaded and conqurered many times in history...so, were not all Indian.

and i havent forgotten anything about religion. Your just like some other people abit pissed off the current reality about the divisions of pakistan and india.

just look how worked up he got......proves i'm right :idea:

did u fucking read my post where i never said all pakistanis

yeh..im pissed off coz they have wasted the place and need proper governence....instead of the fundamentalist bullshit

okay im gonna say it....Pakistan should never have happened....it has been a failed state throughout history :idea:

[HU55AIN]

It's the poverty line, it's from your own link.

And inflation is a good historical indicator as it leads to the PPP comparison. Pakistan's inflation remains higher.

that was the link to the map i posted..which shows otherwise..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Percentage_population_living_on_less_than_1_ dollar_day_2007-2008.png


Pakistans inflation has increased just recently, within 1 year. Otherwise it would been on par with indias...

[TDSR]

that was the link to the map i posted..which shows otherwise..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Percentage_population_living_on_less_than_1_ dollar_day_2007-2008.png


Pakistans inflation has increased just recently, within 1 year. Otherwise it would been on par with indias...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Percent_poverty_world_map.PNG





Re: Inflation; not really, look at the worldbank links again.

[HU55AIN]

just look how worked up he got......proves i'm right :idea:

did u fucking read my post where i never said all pakistanis

yeh..im pissed off coz they have wasted the place and need proper governence....instead of the fundamentalist bullshit

okay im gonna say it....Pakistan should never have happened....it has been a failed state throughout history :idea:

No, I just dont like bullshit.

Well, it doesnt really matter what you think or how we govern our country...why do u care so much?

Pakistan is still alive and will be for the future..Its failed past 8 years maybe...
but thats the thing with us Pakistanis we dont give up...and u saying this random stupid shiit isnt making u look good.

[HU55AIN]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Percent_poverty_world_map.PNG





Re: Inflation; not really, look at the worldbank links again.

I wasnt referring to that, I meant the % living under a dollar...and the gap between both nations.

[TDSR]

No, I just dont like bullshit.

Well, it doesnt really matter what you think or how we govern our country...why do u care so much?

Pakistan is still alive and will be for the future..Its failed past 8 years maybe...
but thats the thing with us Pakistanis we dont give up...and u saying this random stupid shiit isnt making u look good.

Ironically, it had more solidarity in the past 8 years. It was overwhelmingly more corrupt before Musharraf came. Musharraf was corrupt as well, but at least he had some agendas which were not strictly personal gain. Now that he's gone, the territorial disputes will continue. There is no united people of Pakistan save what the govt. can provide in terms of unity. NWFP is essentially a collection of tribes. Punjab is its own territory, and Balochistan would rather be a part of Iran. I see no reason to think the current president of Pakistan can bring said solidarity.


I wasnt referring to that, I meant the % living under a dollar...and the gap between both nations.

Which is irrelevant when looking at the overall poverty line.

[zarahomme]

No, I just dont like bullshit.

Well, it doesnt really matter what you think or how we govern our country...why do u care so much?

Pakistan is still alive and will be for the future..Its failed past 8 years maybe...
but thats the thing with us Pakistanis we dont give up...and u saying this random stupid shiit isnt making u look good.

when u have fundamentalist terrorists hell bent on destroying ur country....thats when u start to care

8 years.....try 60 something....

[HU55AIN]

Ironically, it had more solidarity in the past 8 years. It was overwhelmingly more corrupt before Musharraf came. Musharraf was corrupt as well, but at least he had some agendas which were not strictly personal gain. Now that he's gone, the territorial disputes will continue. There is no united people of Pakistan save what the govt. can provide in terms of unity. NWFP is essentially a collection of tribes. Punjab is its own territory, and Balochistan would rather be a part of Iran. I see no reason to think the current president of Pakistan can bring said solidarity.




Which is irrelevant when looking at the overall poverty line.

Musharraf did have the country on lock down. However, some people have double standards, they say be democratic, hence, kick mush out and have fair elections and their is some say he was better, but he was a dictator...personally, I dont like none of them..but mush did do alot of pak, in sense of economics, development and defence. He should be credited with that. Current govt doesnt have control of some parts because its about tradions and tribal codes, which we should accept and respect.
Balochistan has more in common with Afghanistan then Iran.

About the poverty, when high percentage of the population is earning less then a dollar then it does matter.

when u have fundamentalist terrorists hell bent on destroying ur country....thats when u start to care

8 years.....try 60 something....

Its not destroying the country, a sane person knows the reasons they are doing it because of pak govt supporting the west..Thats why things are kicking off...They wouldnt go as far as destroying the country, because in the end they lose aswell....

Your just affected personally, in the last couple years it has heated up before that their were very few occurances....You dont know what your on about...What you achieved thats so great? Its only recently your economy has started to improve rapidly...You call yourself a democracy? Then why dont you let the Kashmiris decide their fate..

You think you know it all...But, You dont read between the lines why this takes place, the terrorism..Maybe if USA and co...was not in Muslim nations then they might not have been any such things hapening...they wouldnt go around killing ppl for no reason, they must be something that triggers it..and its obvious of what it is.

[phishuff]

then vsaigal is an idiot

[TDSR]

Musharraf did have the country on lock down. However, some people have double standards, they say be democratic, hence, kick mush out and have fair elections and their is some say he was better, but he was a dictator...personally, I dont like none of them..but mush did do alot of pak, in sense of economics, development and defence. He should be credited with that. Current govt doesnt have control of some parts because its about tradions and tribal codes, which we should accept and respect.

Why? It's bad for the economy.


About the poverty, when high percentage of the population is earning less then a dollar then it does matter.


Not really. In the overall scheme of what is and isn't poverty, "$1" is arbitrary. If you look at the "$2" mark, it's even. And any threshold beyond that shows Pakistan to be lagging behind by a considerable amount.

[foreverconfused]

Ironically, it had more solidarity in the past 8 years. It was overwhelmingly more corrupt before Musharraf came. Musharraf was corrupt as well, but at least he had some agendas which were not strictly personal gain. Now that he's gone, the territorial disputes will continue. There is no united people of Pakistan save what the govt. can provide in terms of unity. NWFP is essentially a collection of tribes. Punjab is its own territory, and Balochistan would rather be a part of Iran. I see no reason to think the current president of Pakistan can bring said solidarity.




Which is irrelevant when looking at the overall poverty line.

I assumed you were Space-cowboy with another username, until I read this post. I don't think you sound like him anymore. :scratch:

[TDSR]

I assumed you were Space-cowboy with another username, until I read this post. I don't think you sound like him anymore. :scratch:

I'm not space cowboy.

[foreverconfused]

I'm not space cowboy.

if you don't mind my asking, which part of canada are you from?

[TDSR]

if you don't mind my asking, which part of canada are you from?

Canada?

[foreverconfused]

Canada?

never mind. I thought you mentioned being from canada. must have had you confused with someone else.

[TDSR]

never mind. I thought you mentioned being from canada. must have had you confused with someone else.

:dunno:



Anyway, it's shocking that so many Desis have a problem with Gandhi.

[vsaigal]

To make money off a region, you must first be able to control it. There is no way of controlling the NWFP or even Pakistani Punjab, because of the amount of militant Islamic extremism there.

Pakistan is a failed state. It is finished. I think it will dissolve into a number of different states in the next twenty years, because it is impossible to unify and govern that country, those two states in particular.

lets hope punjab and azad kashmir join india.

[vsaigal]

:dunno:



Anyway, it's shocking that so many Desis have a problem with Gandhi.

u cant be space cowboy, he hates gandhi.

[foreverconfused]

:dunno:



Anyway, it's shocking that so many Desis have a problem with Gandhi.

yeah, I don't get it either. Except for one of my grandparents, everyone I've ever met sees him as a saint.

[TDSR]

u cant be space cowboy, he hates gandhi.

He does, does he?

Then, he was a dumbass.

[vsaigal]

then vsaigal is an idiot
gandhi and u can have :gay: sex aite?

[TDSR]

yeah, I don't get it either. Except for one of my grandparents, everyone I've ever met sees him as a saint.

Wouldn't call him a saint. Just another hero like King, Dalai Lama, Mandela

[vsaigal]

He does, does he?

Then, he was a dumbass.

Gandhi is not a saint, ure so fucking stupid and regular. dont have a mind of your own, think about. that short gujrati was a dickwart.

[vsaigal]

Wouldn't call him a saint. Just another hero like King, Dalai Lama, Mandela

Dalai Lama is a dick.

Mandela is a dick.

Martin Luthar King. now that is a real saint.

[TDSR]

Gandhi is not a saint, ure so fucking stupid and regular. dont have a mind of your own, think about. that short gujrati was a dickwart.

You're stupid. Read the post above you.

[TDSR]

Dalai Lama is a dick.

Mandela is a dick.

Martin Luthar King. now that is a real saint.

How is the Dalai Lama a dick? How is Mandela a dick?

[vsaigal]

You're stupid. Read the post above you.

LOL.

dude

gandhi wasnt anything good seriously, if we ever meet, i'll show u books, my grand dads knowledge, lots of stuff.

[TDSR]

LOL.

dude

gandhi wasnt anything good seriously, if we ever meet, i'll show u books, my grand dads knowledge, lots of stuff.

Your granddad wanted Pakistan, a land whose ideological foundation was doomed from the start.

[phishuff]

"an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind"

[vsaigal]

How is the Dalai Lama a dick? How is Mandela a dick?

Mandela ran south afric a into the gutter after he became president, he lied for 30 years. he fucked that country over.

im not gonna go into detail. but a little bit of stats here.

300 families leave south africa every day, espically from the cities of johanesburg and durban..... and most of them aint white anymore. they are black. South Africa is doomed.

okok next.

Dalai Lama. madarchood doesnt have the balls to do anything. some tibetan shud assinate him.

[vsaigal]

Your granddad wanted Pakistan, a land whose ideological foundation was doomed from the start.

dont fucking put words into his mouth

he wanted punjab
fuck the rest of pakistan

[foreverconfused]

Dalai Lama is a dick.

Mandela is a dick.

Martin Luthar King. now that is a real saint.

now I am reminded of why I got sick of posting here,

[Jay_Tibet]

........

[vsaigal]

now I am reminded of why I got sick of posting here,

bye bye


im sorry, i dont like mandela, he fucked south africa over.

fucking dirty black man.

[vsaigal]

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http://www.heritageoverseas.com.au/images/gANDHIGIRI-ROCKS-COPY.jpg

that movie is so fucking dumb. :no:

[baliwala]

lol

[HU55AIN]

Why? It's bad for the economy.





Not really. In the overall scheme of what is and isn't poverty, "$1" is arbitrary. If you look at the "$2" mark, it's even. And any threshold beyond that shows Pakistan to be lagging behind by a considerable amount.

It is but end of the day its their homeland, they can choose to live their tradtional way..and having a primary economy. We cant force anything, not even the might of the army..You need to learn from history and even today...you dont force people like this into anything.

Well, they are all estimates, no-one can know exactly, since govt always change/amend accounts to favour them..so they can gain grants and loans from world bank/IMF etc

Poverty lines are measure differently according to country.

So, if we compare the international poverty line..India has 41.6% living in poverty...while Pakistan has about 1/3 = 52 approx= 33%

India link:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_India


Pakistan link:- http://povertynewsblog.blogspot.com/2007/11/57m-people-living-below-poverty-line-in.html

Il try finding better and more accurate links....Anyways am out.

[Jay_Tibet]

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[Jay_Tibet]

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[vsaigal]

woah...dude..calm down there...you really shouldnt be talking about things you have no knowledge of.

fuck u mate. i have enough knowledge, i extensively studied mandela for my thesis.

[vsaigal]

lol...the guy you're calling a dick is revered as a saint by the one you're refering to as 'real saint.'

lol. well to bad.

[TDSR]

It is but end of the day its their homeland, they can choose to live their tradtional way..and having a primary economy. We cant force anything, not even the might of the army..You need to learn from history and even today...you dont force people like this into anything.

Well, they are all estimates, no-one can know exactly, since govt always change/amend accounts to favour them..so they can gain grants and loans from world bank/IMF etc


[quote]
Poverty lines are measure differently according to country.

So, if we compare the international poverty line..India has 41.6% living in poverty...while Pakistan has about 1/3 = 52 approx= 33%

India link:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_India


Pakistan link:- http://povertynewsblog.blogspot.com/2007/11/57m-people-living-below-poverty-line-in.html

Il try finding better and more accurate links....Anyways am out.


I'm posting straight from world bank site here. If we're going by international comparisons, Pakistan's HDI is significantly below India's.

[QuickGun Murugan]

Mandela ran south afric a into the gutter after he became president, he lied for 30 years. he fucked that country over.

im not gonna go into detail. but a little bit of stats here.

300 families leave south africa every day, espically from the cities of johanesburg and durban..... and most of them aint white anymore. they are black. South Africa is doomed.

okok next.

Dalai Lama. madarchood doesnt have the balls to do anything. some tibetan shud assinate him.

Oh wow, you think you're an expert on South Africa. :no:

You know nothing about South Africa, apart from a holiday in Cape Town, so stop talking about what's going on here and stick to Malaysia. :arrow:

[_true_definition]

Gandhi was a fool! Bhagat Singh was the real freedom fighter!

[jumpn jza]

It may be true that Gandhi had some reprehensible things to say about africans when he was young, but people change. Gandhi was a human being and many admirers are willing to look past his imperfections because they agree with what he fought for. Revolution should never be romanticized, the word itself implies suffering and displacement. So if you're looking for a pristine, perfect leader who did everything right and pleased all those who looked up to him, then keep looking. As for partition, blame Jinnah not Gandhiji.

Ohh, and that conspiracy theory that Gandhi was somehow responsible for Bhagat Singh's death is by far the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.

[jumpn jza]

How is the Dalai Lama a dick? How is Mandela a dick?

I'm sceptical about the Dalai Lama because I'm not sure what kind of a society he wants in Tibet. I don't condone China's brutal polices, but the feudal theocracy that existed before China invaded Tibet was much worse. The Dalai Lamas aided, supported and maintained an extremely exploitative system of autocratic rule by the ruling elite. The Chinese annexation of the region dismantled this system. They introduced free education, healthcare and conducted land reform.

Not a fan of the previous Tibetan establishment that's all.

[QuickGun Murugan]

It may be true that Gandhi had some reprehensible things to say about africans when he was young, but people change. Gandhi was a human being and many admirers are willing to look past his imperfections because they agree with what he fought for. Revolution should never be romanticized, the word itself implies suffering and displacement. So if you're looking for a pristine, perfect leader who did everything right and pleased all those who looked up to him, then keep looking. As for partition, blame Jinnah not Gandhiji.

Ohh, and that conspiracy theory that Gandhi was somehow responsible for Bhagat Singh's death is by far the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.

:werd:

[Sacha-Sauda]

As far as I'm concerned, all people of Kashmir have a right to self determination. But at the same time, I want the Ladakhi Buddhists, Kashmiri Pandits, Kashmiri Sikhs, Christians and Dogra Rajputs in Jammu to be saved from the nightmare of a theocratic Kashmiri state (which tbh will be a reality). Thus a portion of Kashmir/Ladakh and Jammu should be eded to them. You cannot talk about self determination and conveniently ignore all the Hindus, Sikhs and Buddhists of the region. And if they want to continue in India or become independent, so be it.