Desi Guys me including.. do feel isolated by the recent Movies and films, Some desi g

[chowdury]

some desi guys like me hav definitely got mixed feelings, by the media.

Any one feeling a little bit uneasy by the recent movies..

i.e 1. like white dudes going to india fucking shit loads of the hottes intelligent desi gals....

2. aishwarya movie in hollywood, were all south asian culture was abraviated in to spices and cinaman and curry oh i forgot te sacred chili powder! and had the choice of leaving te "butt ding ding shop" as my white pals point out! to go and fuck the white guy.

3. touring india, story line tasting hottest desi gals!

theres a couple of other movies that i left out

i.e east meeting west (modern day version) via desi gals getting fucked by west!

While the media protrays desi guys some wat ecentirc weed smoking pot heads, i.e harold and kumar,getting pushed around by our white superiors!and by general people!

I can imagine in the real world for some of the desi guys around this is very true. it feels like that my basic socail needs r inexisitant!

This is not all i know that some desi guys must have definitly thougts about it, a desi guy posted desi porn links for us guys but on the front page its a dessi gal fucking a white dude! There iz a very big cultural imbalance in the adult media as well as movies and media.

or am te only 1 that had this brief thought that recurred in my head?
or te other desis just sheep!

this gives me 2 fears:

1.
the 2nd big question! is this just a another media propaganda to promote assimilation in to the majority (being) by promoting desi gals to dump desi boyz. and desi boyz being the eccentric pot heads getting pushed around not only by their bosses but by the local idiots!

I remembered a posting by this south Asian man lived in America and is a US citizen.. he’s some kind of professor

Any way like him i have my fears about racial assimilation because all we'll become is a sub category not white/ not desi and still getting kicked around by white..

Any way the other thing that jumped in my head is that in America any group of being had difficulties that has no other roots other then being born in America.. they just got treated like shit! and this American thing still lives on...

U go down NY and u get white men jumping about mother Russia, Italy and for how long have Germans been living in America in Texas? and they still have a German speaking community there, the thing being is that they also jump sayin that they r the 5 generation or 18th or 19th e.t.c. but then they pretend have no links wit the "mother land" and persistently promote us to lose our roots!

But they are persistently trying to promote assimilation!

Like in my other post as a human ecologist its all about social domination!

The question is that wat would have been the reality if desis that lived there did not have links of the motha land?

2. wat i have realized about the white people is that they have to be the dominators! the winners........

if u analyse afro-Americans and surprisingly some afro-Americans do think this!

that afro-Americans and whites should be separate.. If u look at history even though there was a lot of inequality there at one era they even managed to be better educated then the whites and even richer!

At one point there was even a black-American renaissance of scientific progression and even transformed all of the American economy they producing the worlds first solid sugar, lubricant for heavy machinery in the factories, non-linear studies for cables that is used for the internet today, blood transfusion! and many more.. At 1 point they made more patents then the whites!

with every moral progression of the whites comes another secret reason. And now that black America and white is united look at it.. blacks r the poorest least educated... highest in prison! whites being portraying their selves the ones came through and done the right thing!

with every moral progression of the whites comes another secret reason. And now that black America and white is united look at it.. blacks r the poorest least educated... highest in prison! whites being portraying their selves the ones came through and done the right thing!

[Punjabi_Link]

LOL

Western media usually portray non-whites negatively. Get use it.

[PRCIV]

I find it a little disturbing that the fat cunt Gurindher Chadha's movies always show some White dude scoring Indian women and the Indian dudes as the lame losers. So yea, it does irritate me.

[PRCIV]

Also there's a movie called "Outsourced" with the same concept. Does Whitey ever show Indian guys fucking White women ?? I think not !!

[Punjabi_Link]

I find it a little disturbing that the fat cunt Gurindher Chadha's movies always show some White dude scoring Indian women and the Indian dudes as the lame losers. So yea, it does irritate me.

:werd:

These self-hating desis make me sick.

[Punjabi_Link]

Also there's a movie called "Outsourced" with the same concept. Does Whitey ever show Indian guys fucking White women ?? I think not !!

Maybe Bollywood should make a film of white women fucking indian men. :rofl:

[chowdury]

I find it a little disturbing that the fat cunt Gurindher Chadha's movies always show some White dude scoring Indian women and the Indian dudes as the lame losers. So yea, it does irritate me.

the next big question does this impact on the quality of life that u have Physiologically. and the general well being?

[PRCIV]

:werd:

These self-hating desis make me sick.

and Fuck Aishwarya Rai and Parminder Nagra too, for accepting such roles.

[PRCIV]

the next big question does this impact on the quality of life that u have Physiologically. and the general well being?

Uhhh no. If stuff shown in the media bothers you then you should seek help. These Indian porn stars you see are rundis that have sold their soul for a buck, nothing they do bothers me.

[cant.rate.me]

Maybe Bollywood should make a film of white women fucking indian men. :rofl:

i swear there was one film wid an indian guy and a white chick called out of control or sumin..:sarb: cant member now

[Punjabi_Link]

i swear there was one film wid an indian guy and a white chick called out of control or sumin..:sarb: cant member now

Well, Bollywood should make more films of desi guys screwing white women.

[chowdury]

wats the Synopsis wit "outsourced"

[chowdury]

wat is wit the whity man movies trying to promote multi culturist by having scenes of bollywood sta and hott desi ass kissing whites and getting fucked?

Iz tis multi culturist? So wat happened to the other gender (Males) another British genocide?

[DasJa]

I think all that matters is...how as a community, such portrayal effects you.

For example, i've done my fair share of partying and going around....and I think desi guys got enough game to land some punani at a club. The ONLY other ppl who got more game is black guys. White guys are wack, spanish guys are short and generally leery eyed.


So from here on out...I think every desi guy should go out, and be the BEST PLAYER that he can be....and do it not for himself, or for family, but for COUNTRY and the honor of the desi lund. :salut:






















(I'm feckin' bored) :bored:....

[PRCIV]

wats the Synopsis wit "outsourced"

it's about some white guy that moves to India to train his replacement, an Indian girl, because his job has been "outsourced" and they end up falling in love or whatever.

[imsocrazii]

:werd:

These self-hating desis make me sick.

he doesnt :-|

[chowdury]

my next thread will discuss the materialisation of this in the real world and some of the basic things that desi have experienced universally and ur own unique experience..

Because all this media stuff does materialise in te real world!

need to go and look back at my notes.... because all tis gave anti-desi feelings as well as social influence form the whities

[imsocrazii]

I think all that matters is...how as a community, such portrayal effects you.

For example, i've done my fair share of partying and going around....and I think desi guys got enough game to land some punani at a club. The ONLY other ppl who got more game is black guys. White guys are wack, spanish guys are short and generally leery eyed.


So from here on out...I think every desi guy should go out, and be the BEST PLAYER that he can be....and do it not for himself, or for family, but for COUNTRY and the honor of the desi lund. :salut:






















(I'm feckin' bored) :bored:....


i know desis that have MAJOR game.. like whoahhh

[chowdury]

I think all that matters is...how as a community, such portrayal effects you.

For example, i've done my fair share of partying and going around....and I think desi guys got enough game to land some punani at a club. The ONLY other ppl who got more game is black guys. White guys are wack, spanish guys are short and generally leery eyed.


So from here on out...I think every desi guy should go out, and be the BEST PLAYER that he can be....and do it not for himself, or for family, but for COUNTRY and the honor of the desi lund. :salut:

(I'm feckin' bored) :bored:....


dude ur fucking crazy this will have impacts on our desi communities in tha west!

[chowdury]

my next thread will discuss the materialisation of this in the real world and some of the basic things that desi have experienced universally and ur own unique experience..

Because all this media stuff does materialise in te real world!

need to go and look back at my notes.... because all tis gave anti-desi feelings as well as social influence form the whities

tis gave me so much sick feelings about my origin as well as my self and my self confidence

[PRCIV]

he doesnt :-|

he doesn't what ? I bet you think we're backward for thinking along these lines....

[imsocrazii]

he doesn't what ? I bet you think we're backward for thinking along these lines....

no i dont think that. i just try to understand where this is coming from you know, its all i can do.

[PRCIV]

no i dont think that. i just try to understand where this is coming from you know, its all i can do.

have you seen the movies I referred to ?

[imsocrazii]

have you seen the movies I referred to ?

no, but i mean its obvious white man is always portrayed like that

[PRCIV]

no, but i mean its obvious white man is always portrayed like that

portrayed like what ? I'm confuzzled by your responses :sarb:

[imsocrazii]

portrayed like what ? I'm confuzzled by your responses :sarb:

lol i dont know like taking everyones women, hiroshima. troops in japan? taking all the japanese women. you know white man raping the slaves in south. just stuff like that. i guess its the same in these movies you were talking abt

[PRCIV]

lol i dont know like taking everyones women, hiroshima. troops in japan? taking all the japanese women. you know white man raping the slaves in south. just stuff like that. i guess its the same in these movies you were talking abt

Ok, so we're on the same page.

[chowdury]

the 2nd big question! is this just a another media propaganda to promote assimilation in to the majority (being) by promoting desi gals to dump desi boyz. and desi boyz being the eccentric pot heads getting pushed around not only by their bosses but by the local idiots!

I remembered a posting by this south Asian man lived in America and is a US citizen.. he’s some kind of professor

Any way like him i have my fears about racial assimilation because all we'll become is a sub category not white/ not desi and still getting kicked around by white..

Any way the other thing that jumped in my head is that in America any group of being had difficulties that has no other roots other then being born in America.. they just got treated like shit! and this American thing still lives on...

U go down NY and u get white men jumping about mother Russia, Italy and for how long have Germans been living in America in Texas? and they still have a German speaking community there, the thing being is that they also jump sayin that they r the 5 generation or 18th or 19th e.t.c. but then they pretend have no links wit the "mother land" and persistently promote us to lose our roots!

But they are persistently trying to promote assimilation!

Like in my other post as a human ecologist its all about social domination!

The question is that wat would have been the reality if desis that lived there did not have links of the motha land?

[PRCIV]

cultural assimilation = let us fuck your women

[chowdury]

Uhhh no. If stuff shown in the media bothers you then you should seek help. These Indian porn stars you see are rundis that have sold their soul for a buck, nothing they do bothers me.

the distrubing thing is that there is equally people like that in the west but they wood cut all their limbs off so they do not even av 2 say hello 2 us..........................................

[imsocrazii]

Ok, so we're on the same page.

ya but i guess its also the same for white women. knawmsayin? we get looked at as easy by other cultures, thats irritating too.

[PRCIV]

ya but i guess its also the same for white women. knawmsayin? we get looked at as easy by other cultures, thats irritating too.

yup, that's true

[chowdury]

the 2nd big question! is this just a another media propaganda to promote assimilation in to the majority (being) by promoting desi gals to dump desi boyz. and desi boyz being the eccentric pot heads getting pushed around not only by their bosses but by the local idiots!

I remembered a posting by this south Asian man lived in America and is a US citizen.. he’s some kind of professor

Any way like him i have my fears about racial assimilation because all we'll become is a sub category not white/ not desi and still getting kicked around by white..

Any way the other thing that jumped in my head is that in America any group of being had difficulties that has no other roots other then being born in America.. they just got treated like shit! and this American thing still lives on...

U go down NY and u get white men jumping about mother Russia, Italy and for how long have Germans been living in America in Texas? and they still have a German speaking community there, the thing being is that they also jump sayin that they r the 5 generation or 18th or 19th e.t.c. but then they pretend have no links wit the "mother land" and persistently promote us to lose our roots!

But they are persistently trying to promote assimilation!

Like in my other post as a human ecologist its all about social domination!

The question is that wat would have been the reality if desis that lived there did not have links of the motha land?

so wat is challenging about desi communities!

[imsocrazii]

the 2nd big question! is this just a another media propaganda to promote assimilation in to the majority (being) by promoting desi gals to dump desi boyz. and desi boyz being the eccentric pot heads getting pushed around not only by their bosses but by the local idiots!

I remembered a posting by this south Asian man lived in America and is a US citizen.. he’s some kind of professor

Any way like him i have my fears about racial assimilation because all we'll become is a sub category not white/ not desi and still getting kicked around by white..

Any way the other thing that jumped in my head is that in America any group of being had difficulties that has no other roots other then being born in America.. they just got treated like shit! and this American thing still lives on...

U go down NY and u get white men jumping about mother Russia, Italy and for how long have Germans been living in America in Texas? and they still have a German speaking community there, the thing being is that they also jump sayin that they r the 5 generation or 18th or 19th e.t.c. but then they pretend have no links wit the "mother land" and persistently promote us to lose our roots!

But they are persistently trying to promote assimilation!

Like in my other post as a human ecologist its all about social domination!

The question is that wat would have been the reality if desis that lived there did not have links of the motha land?
dont worry, (white) america wont be leading nation for long. the generations here are getting dumber and dumber

[chowdury]

wat i have realized about the white people is that they have to be the dominators! the winners........

if u analyse afro-Americans and surprisingly some afro-Americans do think this!

that afro-Americans and whites should be separate.. If u look at history even though there was a lot of inequality there at one era they even managed to be better educated then the whites and even richer!

At one point there was even a black-American renaissance of scientific progression and even transformed all of the American economy they producing the worlds first solid sugar, lubricant for heavy machinery in the factories, non-linear studies for cables that is used for the internet today, blood transfusion! and many more.. At 1 point they made more patents then the whites!

with every moral progression of the whites comes another secret reason. And now that black America and white is united look at it.. blacks r the poorest least educated... highest in prison! whites being portraying their selves the ones came through and done the right thing!

with every moral progression of the whites comes another secret reason. And now that black America and white is united look at it.. blacks r the poorest least educated... highest in prison! whites being portraying their selves the ones came through and done the right thing!

LOOK AT INDIA:

I mean they even tired to keep control of India making a law that indigo should only be grown at that time the British even stopped buying indigo from India and cloths and have moves all the factories to north England.
Indian farmers were not allowed to grow crops. it was in a weird way a silent genocide! the Whites knew they could never fully colonise India 350 million Indians back then! or control it. they also wanted to make some modest room for the white people that was going to live there!

[chowdury]

em.

[chowdury]

and Fuck Aishwarya Rai and Parminder Nagra too, for accepting such roles.



she was put on allot of pressure to take this role even her American endorsements put alot of pressure on her i am glad that we have not been fully humiliated coz she married that Indian guy!

[Presence]

some desi guys like me hav definitely got mixed feelings, by the media.

Any one feeling a little bit uneasy by the recent movies..

i.e 1. like white dudes going to india fucking shit loads of the hottes intelligent desi gals....

2. aishwarya movie in hollywood, were all south asian culture was abraviated in to spices and cinaman and curry oh i forgot te sacred chili powder! and had the choice of leaving te "butt ding ding shop" as my white pals point out! to go and fuck the white guy.

3. touring india, story line tasting hottest desi gals!

theres a couple of other movies that i left out

i.e east meeting west (modern day version) via desi gals getting fucked by west!

While the media protrays desi guys some wat ecentirc weed smoking pot heads, i.e harold and kumar,getting pushed around by our white superiors!and by general people!

I can imagine in the real world for some of the desi guys around this is very true. it feels like that my basic socail needs r inexisitant!

This is not all i know that some desi guys must have definitly thougts about it, a desi guy posted desi porn links for us guys but on the front page its a dessi gal fucking a white dude! There iz a very big cultural imbalance in the adult media as well as movies and media.

or am te only 1 that had this brief thought that recurred in my head?
or te other desis just sheep!

man i agree, i have alot to say about this topic aswell, but can't be fucked. Respect to indians and it's growing economy and such but like i feel as if though this growth in money and these bollywood movies are creating a massive social heirachy and rich get richer, poorer get poorer.

All i know is bollywood is fucking up india...

EDIT: And all other desi countires

[chowdury]

wat i have realized about the white people is that they have to be the dominators! the winners........

if u analyse afro-Americans and surprisingly some afro-Americans do think this!

that afro-Americans and whites should be separate.. If u look at history even though there was a lot of inequality there at one era they even managed to be better educated then the whites and even richer!

At one point there was even a black-American renaissance of scientific progression and even transformed all of the American economy they producing the worlds first solid sugar, lubricant for heavy machinery in the factories, non-linear studies for cables that is used for the internet today, blood transfusion! and many more.. At 1 point they made more patents then the whites!

with every moral progression of the whites comes another secret reason. And now that black America and white is united look at it.. blacks r the poorest least educated... highest in prison! whites being portraying their selves the ones came through and done the right thing!

with every moral progression of the whites comes another secret reason. And now that black America and white is united look at it.. blacks r the poorest least educated... highest in prison! whites being portraying their selves the ones came through and done the right thing!

LOOK AT INDIA:

I mean they even tired to keep control of India making a law that indigo should only be grown at that time the British even stopped buying indigo from India and cloths and have moves all the factories to north England.
Indian farmers were not allowed to grow crops. it was in a weird way a silent genocide! the Whites knew they could never fully colonise India 350 million Indians back then! or control it. they also wanted to make some modest room for the white people that was going to live there!

the 2nd big question! is this just a another media propaganda to promote assimilation in to the majority (being) by promoting desi gals to dump desi boyz. and desi boyz being the eccentric pot heads getting pushed around not only by their bosses but by the local idiots!

I remembered a posting by this south Asian man lived in America and is a US citizen.. he’s some kind of professor

Any way like him i have my fears about racial assimilation because all we'll become is a sub category not white/ not desi and still getting kicked around by white..

Any way the other thing that jumped in my head is that in America any group of being had difficulties that has no other roots other then being born in America.. they just got treated like shit! and this American thing still lives on...

U go down NY and u get white men jumping about mother Russia, Italy and for how long have Germans been living in America in Texas? and they still have a German speaking community there, the thing being is that they also jump sayin that they r the 5 generation or 18th or 19th e.t.c. but then they pretend have no links wit the "mother land" and persistently promote us to lose our roots!

But they are persistently trying to promote assimilation!

Like in my other post as a human ecologist its all about social domination!

The question is that wat would have been the reality if desis that lived there did not have links of the motha land?

These 2 posts sum up everthing 4 me & is wat i was confused over the past?
And no one has quoted it!

post 35! the bit about the afros... i think is very true... and means allot and says allot. and no one has noticed post 35. ( the first quote, in this thread!

[chowdury]

the 2nd big question! is this just a another media propaganda to promote assimilation in to the majority (being) by promoting desi gals to dump desi boyz. and desi boyz being the eccentric pot heads getting pushed around not only by their bosses but by the local idiots!

I remembered a posting by this south Asian man lived in America and is a US citizen.. he’s some kind of professor

Any way like him i have my fears about racial assimilation because all we'll become is a sub category not white/ not desi and still getting kicked around by white..

Any way the other thing that jumped in my head is that in America any group of being had difficulties that has no other roots other then being born in America.. they just got treated like shit! and this American thing still lives on...

U go down NY and u get white men jumping about mother Russia, Italy and for how long have Germans been living in America in Texas? and they still have a German speaking community there, the thing being is that they also jump sayin that they r the 5 generation or 18th or 19th e.t.c. but then they pretend have no links wit the "mother land" and persistently promote us to lose our roots!

But they are persistently trying to promote assimilation!

Like in my other post as a human ecologist its all about social domination!

The question is that wat would have been the reality if desis that lived there did not have links of the motha land?

wat i have realized about the white people is that they have to be the dominators! the winners........

if u analyse afro-Americans and surprisingly some afro-Americans do think this!

that afro-Americans and whites should be separate.. If u look at history even though there was a lot of inequality there at one era they even managed to be better educated then the whites and even richer!

At one point there was even a black-American renaissance of scientific progression and even transformed all of the American economy they producing the worlds first solid sugar, lubricant for heavy machinery in the factories, non-linear studies for cables that is used for the internet today, blood transfusion! and many more.. At 1 point they made more patents then the whites!

with every moral progression of the whites comes another secret reason. And now that black America and white is united look at it.. blacks r the poorest least educated... highest in prison! whites being portraying their selves the ones came through and done the right thing!

with every moral progression of the whites comes another secret reason. And now that black America and white is united look at it.. blacks r the poorest least educated... highest in prison! whites being portraying their selves the ones came through and done the right thing!

LOOK AT INDIA:

I mean they even tired to keep control of India making a law that indigo should only be grown at that time the British even stopped buying indigo from India and cloths and have moves all the factories to north England.
Indian farmers were not allowed to grow crops. it was in a weird way a silent genocide! the Whites knew they could never fully colonise India 350 million Indians back then! or control it. they also wanted to make some modest room for the white people that was going to live there!

The second most shocking thing is that some of u Brainless desis r ok wit the terms of racial assimilation. if u r to read the above quotes b4 u reply to the post.

[sarkar_jot]

who is the turd-head that moved this to RELATIONSHIP AND DATING ??

[samsaric]

Alright....having read some of your posts...I feel like I have to reply. First of all, if you had a problem with cultural assimilation, you should have stayed in India...where it isn't as much of a problem. I think it's preposterous when immigrants come to wealthy countries that promise clean air, food, water and opportunity, and yet expect to give nothing in return. Remember the age ol adage - "When in Rome, do as the Romans do". What you're suggesting sounds like ...when in rome, make the romans do as you want. The fact that you have the freedom to do this in whatever country you are residing in is a pretty big deal if you think bout it..and i believe that it should be appreciated rather than used as a means of spreading the kind of hate filled discrimination that you are in your posts. Try having freedom of speech as a lower caste citizen in the villages of India or the streets of Pakistan, and we'll see how much of a catalyst for change you can really be. North America IS white dominated, and the dominant culture WILL express their dominance through a variety of ways - social and cultural. How do you think white people were portrayed till very recently in Hindi movies- trust me when I say that Tom Alter wasn't getting much love on the screen in Bollywood. Were you standing upfor the mistreatment of whites then? Or better yet - how are africans portrayed in Indian media and how are they treated? Ever heard the term "hapshi"? Raja Ram Mohun Roy - considered one of the greatest reformers of his time was renowned for the fact that he actually ate with the British - an act which most of the high minded pundits of the time would have looked upon in disgust and pronounced "chhi chhi". We come from one of the most segregatory, racist, discriminatory societies in the world - so much so, that even religions such as Sikhism and Islam - which have religious tenets that specify the equality of their believers- have a caste system of sorts in the Indian Subcontinent. Ramgadiya, Jat etc for the Sikhs , and oonchi jaat and neechi jaat for the Muslims.
Simply put, if you have a problem with assimilation - the great american melting pot - which i guarantee is something that your parents or you or whoever migrated to North America first WAS made aware of, then why are you here? Go back to India, have fun with the caste system and then see how white women are objectified in the Indian media as dancers and sluts. Perhaps that would be more your kind of thing right? I know tons of immigrants who look upon mainstream north american culture as disgusting, vile, lacking morals, and yet these same individuals who crinkle their noses at mtv and naked women have no issue whatsoever taking advantage of a system and framework for success developed by none other than - drumroll- - the white man. I know tons of indian guys who see white girls as easy lays and lead them on with no intention of marrying them. Once they've sown their wild oats, they often end up with a nice, prim, proper virgin indian girl their parents chose for them from India who they probably pass on all manner of HPV too. You don't see this in the media too much do you? Would you be crying foul and speaking out against the way white people are portrayed then?
"khud hi ko kar buland itna ki har taqdeer se pehle, Khuda bande se yeh poochhe, bol teri razaa kya hai". Take those words, make them yours, and you will stick it to the "white man" and white culture you have such a problem with much more than the nonsense you're spouting. Indians are one of the most successful ethnic groups in North America - and I take great pride in the fact that we have made a mark for ourselves in this manner here. something like 30% of United States doctors are of Indian ethnic origin - and THAT is splendid. of course, you can also sit on your computer and complain about the unfair treatment of Indian people decades ago in Britain, and that serves me just fine too, but i doubt it'll really get any message of worth across. Best of luck with everything.

[j2k339050]

hey hey hey .. " the rise of Taj" indian guy fucked a white chick.. lol well he got with her in the end anyways and the white guy was the loser.. but thats like the only one lol

[j2k339050]

ya but i guess its also the same for white women. knawmsayin? we get looked at as easy by other cultures, thats irritating too.

good point.. very true.. must be all the porno movies lol. but seriously.. when i was over seas my friend whose a white was like hit on by guys all the time cause they thought she was always horny or something. i think its all the teen movies abt college and high school and them having huge sex drives an shit.. way overrated.:cool:

[BornToBreak_Rulz]

Alright....having read some of your posts...I feel like I have to reply. First of all, if you had a problem with cultural assimilation, you should have stayed in India...where it isn't as much of a problem. I think it's preposterous when immigrants come to wealthy countries that promise clean air, food, water and opportunity, and yet expect to give nothing in return. Remember the age ol adage - "When in Rome, do as the Romans do". What you're suggesting sounds like ...when in rome, make the romans do as you want. The fact that you have the freedom to do this in whatever country you are residing in is a pretty big deal if you think bout it..and i believe that it should be appreciated rather than used as a means of spreading the kind of hate filled discrimination that you are in your posts. Try having freedom of speech as a lower caste citizen in the villages of India or the streets of Pakistan, and we'll see how much of a catalyst for change you can really be. North America IS white dominated, and the dominant culture WILL express their dominance through a variety of ways - social and cultural. How do you think white people were portrayed till very recently in Hindi movies- trust me when I say that Tom Alter wasn't getting much love on the screen in Bollywood. Were you standing upfor the mistreatment of whites then? Or better yet - how are africans portrayed in Indian media and how are they treated? Ever heard the term "hapshi"? Raja Ram Mohun Roy - considered one of the greatest reformers of his time was renowned for the fact that he actually ate with the British - an act which most of the high minded pundits of the time would have looked upon in disgust and pronounced "chhi chhi". We come from one of the most segregatory, racist, discriminatory societies in the world - so much so, that even religions such as Sikhism and Islam - which have religious tenets that specify the equality of their believers- have a caste system of sorts in the Indian Subcontinent. Ramgadiya, Jat etc for the Sikhs , and oonchi jaat and neechi jaat for the Muslims.
Simply put, if you have a problem with assimilation - the great american melting pot - which i guarantee is something that your parents or you or whoever migrated to North America first WAS made aware of, then why are you here? Go back to India, have fun with the caste system and then see how white women are objectified in the Indian media as dancers and sluts. Perhaps that would be more your kind of thing right? I know tons of immigrants who look upon mainstream north american culture as disgusting, vile, lacking morals, and yet these same individuals who crinkle their noses at mtv and naked women have no issue whatsoever taking advantage of a system and framework for success developed by none other than - drumroll- - the white man. I know tons of indian guys who see white girls as easy lays and lead them on with no intention of marrying them. Once they've sown their wild oats, they often end up with a nice, prim, proper virgin indian girl their parents chose for them from India who they probably pass on all manner of HPV too. You don't see this in the media too much do you? Would you be crying foul and speaking out against the way white people are portrayed then?
"khud hi ko kar buland itna ki har taqdeer se pehle, Khuda bande se yeh poochhe, bol teri razaa kya hai". Take those words, make them yours, and you will stick it to the "white man" and white culture you have such a problem with much more than the nonsense you're spouting. Indians are one of the most successful ethnic groups in North America - and I take great pride in the fact that we have made a mark for ourselves in this manner here. something like 30% of United States doctors are of Indian ethnic origin - and THAT is splendid. of course, you can also sit on your computer and complain about the unfair treatment of Indian people decades ago in Britain, and that serves me just fine too, but i doubt it'll really get any message of worth across. Best of luck with everything.

This post summarized everthing i wanted to say.Especailly this quote "khud hi ko kar buland itna ki har taqdeer se pehle, Khuda bande se yeh poochhe, bol teri razaa kya hai". I hate whiny bastards who blame others for their deficiencies.Excellent post my friend.

[chowdury]

Alright....having read some of your posts...I feel like I have to reply. First of all, if you had a problem with cultural assimilation, you should have stayed in India...where it isn't as much of a problem. I think it's preposterous when immigrants come to wealthy countries that promise clean air, food, water and opportunity, and yet expect to give nothing in return. Remember the age ol adage - "When in Rome, do as the Romans do". What you're suggesting sounds like ...when in rome, make the romans do as you want. The fact that you have the freedom to do this in whatever country you are residing in is a pretty big deal if you think bout it..and i believe that it should be appreciated rather than used as a means of spreading the kind of hate filled discrimination that you are in your posts. Try having freedom of speech as a lower caste citizen in the villages of India or the streets of Pakistan, and we'll see how much of a catalyst for change you can really be. North America IS white dominated, and the dominant culture WILL express their dominance through a variety of ways - social and cultural. How do you think white people were portrayed till very recently in Hindi movies- trust me when I say that Tom Alter wasn't getting much love on the screen in Bollywood. Were you standing upfor the mistreatment of whites then? Or better yet - how are africans portrayed in Indian media and how are they treated? Ever heard the term "hapshi"? Raja Ram Mohun Roy - considered one of the greatest reformers of his time was renowned for the fact that he actually ate with the British - an act which most of the high minded pundits of the time would have looked upon in disgust and pronounced "chhi chhi". We come from one of the most segregatory, racist, discriminatory societies in the world - so much so, that even religions such as Sikhism and Islam - which have religious tenets that specify the equality of their believers- have a caste system of sorts in the Indian Subcontinent. Ramgadiya, Jat etc for the Sikhs , and oonchi jaat and neechi jaat for the Muslims.
Simply put, if you have a problem with assimilation - the great american melting pot - which i guarantee is something that your parents or you or whoever migrated to North America first WAS made aware of, then why are you here? Go back to India, have fun with the caste system and then see how white women are objectified in the Indian media as dancers and sluts. Perhaps that would be more your kind of thing right? I know tons of immigrants who look upon mainstream north american culture as disgusting, vile, lacking morals, and yet these same individuals who crinkle their noses at mtv and naked women have no issue whatsoever taking advantage of a system and framework for success developed by none other than - drumroll- - the white man. I know tons of indian guys who see white girls as easy lays and lead them on with no intention of marrying them. Once they've sown their wild oats, they often end up with a nice, prim, proper virgin indian girl their parents chose for them from India who they probably pass on all manner of HPV too. You don't see this in the media too much do you? Would you be crying foul and speaking out against the way white people are portrayed then?
"khud hi ko kar buland itna ki har taqdeer se pehle, Khuda bande se yeh poochhe, bol teri razaa kya hai". Take those words, make them yours, and you will stick it to the "white man" and white culture you have such a problem with much more than the nonsense you're spouting. Indians are one of the most successful ethnic groups in North America - and I take great pride in the fact that we have made a mark for ourselves in this manner here. something like 30% of United States doctors are of Indian ethnic origin - and THAT is splendid. of course, you can also sit on your computer and complain about the unfair treatment of Indian people decades ago in Britain, and that serves me just fine too, but i doubt it'll really get any message of worth across. Best of luck with everything.

The fact that you have the freedom to do this in whatever country you are residing in is a pretty big deal if you think bout it..and i believe that it should be appreciated rather than used as a means of spreading the kind of hate filled discrimination that you are in your posts. have i technically said anything bad about whites i.e "they run around naked and r dirty"? i am just having a conversation wit desis, about their confused feelings!

North America IS white dominated, and the dominant culture WILL express their dominance through a variety of ways - social and cultural. through cultural Extinction?! Have u ever heard of majoritarianism
of democracy?



How do you think white people were portrayed till very recently in Hindi movies- trust me when I say that Tom Alter wasn't getting much love on the screen in Bollywood. Were you standing upfor the mistreatment of whites then? the difference is that there r a significant amount of coloured in the US!

Simply put, if you have a problem with assimilation - the great american melting pot - which i guarantee is something that your parents or you or whoever migrated to North America first WAS made aware of, then why are you here? Go back to India= can this b considered as anti-desi, u mean i can not have a rational converstion of the advantages and disadvantages of assimilation!!!! i tink that the disadvantages r more applicable to us. (because i orginate some else does that i do not have the right to question?) Am bengali its my nature and blood to ask! and i am a human ecologist!

Yet at the same time u r a Hypocrite, if admire the melting-pot so much then y r u proud of desi success in america in the medical profession? And u r the same Hypocrite, like that russian man singing about mother russia.

My dear person its not only that has questions about the melting-pot white people have questioned it to and its effectiveness as well as the problems that it may create for the smaller being? Bet u r the same type of person that would have beaten a afro for asking questions regarding the quote at the bottom?

but the bottom quote does stimulate some questions in my mind. and don't come up with crap sayin that this happened b4 u were born because in historical terms this is very recent and very related. Some how magically the most educated part of the population as well as the most scientific progressing of the population some how transformed over a short space of time in to the:


1.the least educated
2.highest in prison
3.the poorest

LAST of all u shood gon back were u come from because were u come from asking abstract question is obvisously not tolerated and i do not come from India u hoo! In america and the west questioning things is the way so get used to it. Does it make it ok now that i said that whites have also questioned "melting-pot" assimilation........



Originally Posted by chowdury
wat i have realized about the white people is that they have to be the dominators! the winners........

if u analyse afro-Americans and surprisingly some afro-Americans do think this!

that afro-Americans and whites should be separate.. If u look at history even though there was a lot of inequality there at one era they even managed to be better educated then the whites and even richer!

At one point there was even a black-American renaissance of scientific progression and even transformed all of the American economy they producing the worlds first solid sugar, lubricant for heavy machinery in the factories, non-linear studies for cables that is used for the internet today, blood transfusion! and many more.. At 1 point they made more patents then the whites!

with every moral progression of the whites comes another secret reason. And now that black America and white is united look at it.. blacks r the poorest least educated... highest in prison! whites being portraying their selves the ones came through and done the right thing!

with every moral progression of the whites comes another secret reason. And now that black America and white is united look at it.. blacks r the poorest least educated... highest in prison! whites being portraying their selves the ones came through and done the right thing!

[samsaric]

Chowdury...
firstly...what the hell is a human ecologist? ecology is the study of organisms in their ecosystems ...and is a science based in the western originated scientific method. perhaps if you feel so strongly against assimilation, you shouldn't be using titles derived from western sciences to describe yourself? Anyhow...to reply to some of your comments:
"through cultural Extinction?! Have u ever heard of majoritarianism
of democracy?"
Yes i have heard of the majority ruling in democracy. Fact is that white north americans still outnumber minorities in North America by a long shot. And this will be the case for quite some time. face it. You can't expect the culture here to be conducive to your best interests - because it isn't India. And cultural assimilation is NOT about cultural extinction. It is about a mixture where everyone contributes to the whole. Hinduism is probably one of the most "assimilatory" religions out there. Buddhism came about and started flourishing...and within a few hundred years, there were mythologies revamped to accommodate the Buddha as another avatar of Vishnu - and Hinduism became dominant once more. Hindus visit the dargah of the Kwaja Moinuddin Chishti in massive numbers, and they also visit gurudwaras and churches at times. However, Buddhism, Islam, and Sikhism maintain fluid identities within the Hindu dominated country.
"the difference is that there r a significant amount of coloured in the US!"
the important thing is that they are still MINORITIES. and according the democracy - majority rules right?
"Am bengali its my nature and blood to ask! and i am a human ecologist!"

You just showed what's going on with that comment. You're Bengali and it's in your nature to ask? Who can call themselves a human ecologist - a very scientific title- and then suggest that they have a propensity towards "questioning" based on their race? Stereotype much? I'm North Indian...perhaps you'd think that it's in my "nature" to argue with twits? Perhaps you should add...that you're chowdury, and it's also in your nature to be a chowdury?

"Yet at the same time u r a Hypocrite, if admire the melting-pot so much then y r u proud of desi success in america in the medical profession? And u r the same Hypocrite, like that russian man singing about mother russia."

I never once said that I admire the melting pot. However, I don't complain about it eiter. If anything, I admire the ability that these countries give to individuals regardless of their backgrounds. You should probably go and read "Apology" and "Crito" and see what i mean when I say that if you don't agree with the dominant ideals of the country that you live in, you shouldn't live there. Sure, there are problems aplenty - racism, discrimination to name two - that need to be contended with - but at the end of the day, there is enough in place that one can succeed. The pride i have in individuals of my ethnic origin succeeding doesn't seem to conflict with assimilation in the least. Because I don't think that assimilation is ever really possible. It is just a bit of give and take on either side that's possible. When the Romans took over the Greeks, they took up Greek culture and repackaged it into their own. Chicken curry might have become Britain's most popular food, but that certainly doesn't mean that Indians are taking over British culture. They are making their mark is all.

I think your comments about african americans being "ahead" of the white population in the united states at any point of time is hogwash. They've been outnumbered for quite some time and the cultural and educational renaissance that you speak of was limited to the northern states. You should perhaps read about the conspiracy theories that white people introduced crack and HIV into the black populations...it sounds right up your alley.
And please...do some research before you spout off again. Ignorance like "And now that black America and white is united look at it.. blacks r the poorest least educated... highest in prison! whites being portraying their selves the ones came through and done the right thing!" is just silly. Have you been to every corner of America and seen how much "unity" there really is? Or did you just watch a post-911 commercial that said "united we stand" and decided that those were facts? Did you keep track with what happened in New Orleans with Hurricane Katrina? What individuals like Kanye West said about Dubya? Do your research before you title yourself a human ecologist.
Cheers.

[chowdury]

Chowdury...
firstly...what the hell is a human ecologist? ecology is the study of organisms in their ecosystems ...and is a science based in the western originated scientific method. perhaps if you feel so strongly against assimilation, you shouldn't be using titles derived from western sciences to describe yourself? Anyhow...to reply to some of your comments:
"through cultural Extinction?! Have u ever heard of majoritarianism
of democracy?"
Yes i have heard of the majority ruling in democracy. Fact is that white north americans still outnumber minorities in North America by a long shot. And this will be the case for quite some time. face it. You can't expect the culture here to be conducive to your best interests - because it isn't India. And cultural assimilation is NOT about cultural extinction. It is about a mixture where everyone contributes to the whole. Hinduism is probably one of the most "assimilatory" religions out there. Buddhism came about and started flourishing...and within a few hundred years, there were mythologies revamped to accommodate the Buddha as another avatar of Vishnu - and Hinduism became dominant once more. Hindus visit the dargah of the Kwaja Moinuddin Chishti in massive numbers, and they also visit gurudwaras and churches at times. However, Buddhism, Islam, and Sikhism maintain fluid identities within the Hindu dominated country.
"the difference is that there r a significant amount of coloured in the US!"
the important thing is that they are still MINORITIES. and according the democracy - majority rules right?
"Am bengali its my nature and blood to ask! and i am a human ecologist!"

You just showed what's going on with that comment. You're Bengali and it's in your nature to ask? Who can call themselves a human ecologist - a very scientific title- and then suggest that they have a propensity towards "questioning" based on their race? Stereotype much? I'm North Indian...perhaps you'd think that it's in my "nature" to argue with twits? Perhaps you should add...that you're chowdury, and it's also in your nature to be a chowdury?

"Yet at the same time u r a Hypocrite, if admire the melting-pot so much then y r u proud of desi success in america in the medical profession? And u r the same Hypocrite, like that russian man singing about mother russia."

I never once said that I admire the melting pot. However, I don't complain about it eiter. If anything, I admire the ability that these countries give to individuals regardless of their backgrounds. You should probably go and read "Apology" and "Crito" and see what i mean when I say that if you don't agree with the dominant ideals of the country that you live in, you shouldn't live there. Sure, there are problems aplenty - racism, discrimination to name two - that need to be contended with - but at the end of the day, there is enough in place that one can succeed. The pride i have in individuals of my ethnic origin succeeding doesn't seem to conflict with assimilation in the least. Because I don't think that assimilation is ever really possible. It is just a bit of give and take on either side that's possible. When the Romans took over the Greeks, they took up Greek culture and repackaged it into their own. Chicken curry might have become Britain's most popular food, but that certainly doesn't mean that Indians are taking over British culture. They are making their mark is all.

I think your comments about african americans being "ahead" of the white population in the united states at any point of time is hogwash. They've been outnumbered for quite some time and the cultural and educational renaissance that you speak of was limited to the northern states. You should perhaps read about the conspiracy theories that white people introduced crack and HIV into the black populations...it sounds right up your alley.
And please...do some research before you spout off again. Ignorance like "And now that black America and white is united look at it.. blacks r the poorest least educated... highest in prison! whites being portraying their selves the ones came through and done the right thing!" is just silly. Have you been to every corner of America and seen how much "unity" there really is? Or did you just watch a post-911 commercial that said "united we stand" and decided that those were facts? Did you keep track with what happened in New Orleans with Hurricane Katrina? What individuals like Kanye West said about Dubya? Do your research before you title yourself a human ecologist.
Cheers.


During that time of terrible socail ineqaulty for afro americans i tink that it is was a major achievement that shood nevea b under estimated.... and yes for a small period of time they were progessing more then whites!

Secondly during that era blacks have contributed 2 progressments.. So i can not use that word because its white origin :waveyFin:! there r quite alott of western things that orginate from asia!!

I recently found out that it was the chineses that made the first steam engine it wasn't a proper one and very undeveloped.... some histroian bloke i was speaking to...

I also remeber that another intelligent guy that knew a lott about greeks under Romans.. that it also had a lot of diadvantages for the greeks and had damaged the cluture a lot!

[banshod]

and Fuck Aishwarya Rai and Parminder Nagra too, for accepting such roles.

If you got offended by "bend it like beckham.." then you have some serious issues...

[banshod]

dude ur fucking crazy this will have impacts on our desi communities in tha west!

The film industry in both Hollywood and Bollywood are skewed.

In the history of cinema, the portrayl of blacks have been far worse, from "blackface" in theater and silent cinema, to "birth of a nation," then to blacks being portrayed as comic relifs or the lower class, but I suppose now their are black stars who have leading roles....in any case, "white is right," even in bollywood, the stars who are famous do not represent the indian majority, the majority having light skin/blue/green eyes.., while the "darker" desis in bollywood are potrayed as evil or comic relifs. so before you point the finger at hollywood....bollywood itself is a product of colonilization.


And although, there are negative protrayls of minorities in hollywood, this is something I don't deny.. for god's sake to suggest that "bend it like beckham," is a microcosm of white invasion of indian pussy is just ridiculous.

[banshod]

she was put on allot of pressure to take this role even her American endorsements put alot of pressure on her i am glad that we have not been fully humiliated coz she married that Indian guy!

So Aishwarya rai is a "product," for you? Are Indian women also "products," that they belong to you and only you, "your women." for god's sake, break the sterotype of indian male domination..that is being present.

[banshod]

Alright....having read some of your posts...I feel like I have to reply. First of all, if you had a problem with cultural assimilation, you should have stayed in India...where it isn't as much of a problem. I think it's preposterous when immigrants come to wealthy countries that promise clean air, food, water and opportunity, and yet expect to give nothing in return. Remember the age ol adage - "When in Rome, do as the Romans do". What you're suggesting sounds like ...when in rome, make the romans do as you want. The fact that you have the freedom to do this in whatever country you are residing in is a pretty big deal if you think bout it..and i believe that it should be appreciated rather than used as a means of spreading the kind of hate filled discrimination that you are in your posts. Try having freedom of speech as a lower caste citizen in the villages of India or the streets of Pakistan, and we'll see how much of a catalyst for change you can really be. North America IS white dominated, and the dominant culture WILL express their dominance through a variety of ways - social and cultural. How do you think white people were portrayed till very recently in Hindi movies- trust me when I say that Tom Alter wasn't getting much love on the screen in Bollywood. Were you standing upfor the mistreatment of whites then? Or better yet - how are africans portrayed in Indian media and how are they treated? Ever heard the term "hapshi"? Raja Ram Mohun Roy - considered one of the greatest reformers of his time was renowned for the fact that he actually ate with the British - an act which most of the high minded pundits of the time would have looked upon in disgust and pronounced "chhi chhi". We come from one of the most segregatory, racist, discriminatory societies in the world - so much so, that even religions such as Sikhism and Islam - which have religious tenets that specify the equality of their believers- have a caste system of sorts in the Indian Subcontinent. Ramgadiya, Jat etc for the Sikhs , and oonchi jaat and neechi jaat for the Muslims.
Simply put, if you have a problem with assimilation - the great american melting pot - which i guarantee is something that your parents or you or whoever migrated to North America first WAS made aware of, then why are you here? Go back to India, have fun with the caste system and then see how white women are objectified in the Indian media as dancers and sluts. Perhaps that would be more your kind of thing right? I know tons of immigrants who look upon mainstream north american culture as disgusting, vile, lacking morals, and yet these same individuals who crinkle their noses at mtv and naked women have no issue whatsoever taking advantage of a system and framework for success developed by none other than - drumroll- - the white man. I know tons of indian guys who see white girls as easy lays and lead them on with no intention of marrying them. Once they've sown their wild oats, they often end up with a nice, prim, proper virgin indian girl their parents chose for them from India who they probably pass on all manner of HPV too. You don't see this in the media too much do you? Would you be crying foul and speaking out against the way white people are portrayed then?
"khud hi ko kar buland itna ki har taqdeer se pehle, Khuda bande se yeh poochhe, bol teri razaa kya hai". Take those words, make them yours, and you will stick it to the "white man" and white culture you have such a problem with much more than the nonsense you're spouting. Indians are one of the most successful ethnic groups in North America - and I take great pride in the fact that we have made a mark for ourselves in this manner here. something like 30% of United States doctors are of Indian ethnic origin - and THAT is splendid. of course, you can also sit on your computer and complain about the unfair treatment of Indian people decades ago in Britain, and that serves me just fine too, but i doubt it'll really get any message of worth across. Best of luck with everything.


Thank you, but next they will say you are an "self hating desi who will forever remain an outsider," like they have said to me.

[chowdury]

So Aishwarya rai is a "product," for you? Are Indian women also "products," that they belong to you and only you, "your women." for god's sake, break the sterotype of indian male domination..that is being present.


I suppose wat som desis r tinking where do i belong?

[banshod]

The type of people complaining in this thread, are the type of people who will riot over Richard's gere's kiss to Shilpa Shetty, but sit back and do nothing when half the population of India is starving, getting persecuted because of caste distinctions, and religious rivarly etc..etc..

[banshod]

I suppose wat som desis r tinking where do i belong?

I don't really understand your english, sorry.

[chowdury]

The type of people complaining in this thread, are the type of people who will riot over Richard's gere's kiss to Shilpa Shetty, but sit back and do nothing when half the population of India is starving, getting persecuted because of caste distinctions, and religious rivarly etc..etc..


it wasmostly the poor that kicked up the fuss u div! tem rickshaw drivers were pissed off about it and all!

[banshod]

it wasmostly the poor that kicked up the fuss u div! tem rickshaw drivers were pissed off about it and all!

Do you look "down" upon the poor as "lower then you," would you be pissed if your sister decided to marry a rickshaw driver? I thought all of us desi's were "one people," "together.".....

[chowdury]

Do you look "down" upon the poor as "lower then you," would you be pissed if your sister decided to marry a rickshaw driver? I thought all of us desi's were "one people," "together.".....

Well u don't understand my english!

[punjabimunda3000]

I think all that matters is...how as a community, such portrayal effects you.

For example, i've done my fair share of partying and going around....and I think desi guys got enough game to land some punani at a club. The ONLY other ppl who got more game is black guys. White guys are wack, spanish guys are short and generally leery eyed.


So from here on out...I think every desi guy should go out, and be the BEST PLAYER that he can be....and do it not for himself, or for family, but for COUNTRY and the honor of the desi lund. :salut:






















(I'm feckin' bored) :bored:....

LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHHAHAHA

[chowdury]

Do you look "down" upon the poor as "lower then you," would you be pissed if your sister decided to marry a rickshaw driver? I thought all of us desi's were "one people," "together.".....

(like u said in 1 of ur eariler posts. on tis thread u do not understand my english)

listen u do not understand my english, u Gullah... but people of my origin have helped the poor when ever they can!

[chowdury]

Chowdury...
"the difference is that there r a significant amount of coloured in the US!"
the important thing is that they are still MINORITIES. and according the democracy - majority rules right?
.

Have ever found out how Belgium democracy works? what about the early dayz of American democracy?

Ghandis theory of majoritarianism of democracy? and wen the west (whites) adopted foreign things did they have 2 assimilate did they suffer any indignity?

I neva specifcally said that i am strongly oppsed to assilimation.... but have questions about it:

you should have stayed in India...

its about were do desi fitt in the equation?

"wat is wit the whity man movies trying to promote multi culturist by having scenes of bollywood sta and hott desi ass kissing whites and getting fucked?

Iz tis multi culturist?" but the second seriuos question is that does these movies actualy express multi culturual, but how does it? by mostly isolating the male counter partners? u can point out theres been 1 movie of a desi guy.... compared... to let say... but this is Marginalisation.

so is cultural assimilation being ethically and morally promoted?

Because if it contiues like this u will c shit loads of desis guys kicking the shit out of u!

and is a science based in the western originated scientific method. you shouldn't be using titles derived from western sciences to describe yourself?


"During that time of terrible social inequality for afro Americans i tink that it is was a major achievement that shood nevea b under estimated.... and yes for a small period of time they were progressing more then whites!

Secondly during that era blacks have contributed 2 progresments.. So i can not use that word because its white origin ! there r quite alott of western things that originate from asia!!"

if can not av any Sympathy for confused desis and them feeling misplaced then give up this forum its desi forum u cow! like u said give and take. Then y r u still here... cause theres loads of desis that r feeling misplaced. were do i fitt in this shit......

[samsaric]

Chowder,
You really have to relax. And I hope you realize calling a person from India a cow? is more of a compliment than an insult. But anyhow...I don't really know what you're talking about, because it has all the coherence of a Nirvana song..."garble garble garble...the world sucks". Punctuated with your below par spelling of such choice names as "Ghandi", and given your tendency to pick on things such as "go back to India" rather than placing said words in the context that they were in - I acquiesce to your inaneness. I still don't know what belgium's democracy has to do with anything?
you asked where we fit in the equation? We are something like a percent of the population of the united states - that's where and how we fit in. It's not easy to establish an identity in a new country or in a country where you come home to India and spend the day in America. Anyhow...if i knew your questions were regarding identity formation for desis (which they weren't - they were more comments on how media portrays us, and how white males get the indian girl and it's causing an existential crisis for you) i would have been less of a cow. One of the ways of bringing forward ideas - regardless of whether you're Bengali and it's in your nature to question - is to put them out in a way that is conducive to learning from others. Have you done that?
Anyhow...best of luck with finding your ABCD ness. And maybe check out Londonstani if you get a chance- good book for these matters.
Cheers.

[SarcasmicBengali]

Also there's a movie called "Outsourced" with the same concept. Does Whitey ever show Indian guys fucking White women ?? I think not !!

whitey might not have... but the Indian Film Industry sure has, in a lotta different movies.

and not goris 'fucking' but being in 'love' with desi guys.
thought i'd make that clear :p

[SarcasmicBengali]

and Fuck Aishwarya Rai and Parminder Nagra too, for accepting such roles.

ok i understand Ash... because she basicaly represents India in the West... as mis leading as that is :|

but what Nagra's done beyond BEND IT LIKE BEKHAM is pretty respectable.
i'm refering to her role in ER... where her ethnicity isn't even highlighted whatsoever.

there was actualy a story arc, about how she, being brown was expected to be a doctor... but she didn't want to.

[SarcasmicBengali]

btw... there have been movies with Desi guys and Caucasian women goin back a long way... as far as 1970...

http://www.filmiholic.com/images/bombay%20talkie/bombay%20talkie%20cover.jpg

[SarcasmicBengali]

man i agree, i have alot to say about this topic aswell, but can't be fucked. Respect to indians and it's growing economy and such but like i feel as if though this growth in money and these bollywood movies are creating a massive social heirachy and rich get richer, poorer get poorer.

All i know is bollywood is fucking up india...

EDIT: And all other desi countires

if you're making this comment based on what you see in the mainstream Indian Film Industry... then you don't have all your facts...

[SarcasmicBengali]

Alright....having read some of your posts...I feel like I have to reply. First of all, if you had a problem with cultural assimilation, you should have stayed in India...where it isn't as much of a problem. I think it's preposterous when immigrants come to wealthy countries that promise clean air, food, water and opportunity, and yet expect to give nothing in return. Remember the age ol adage - "When in Rome, do as the Romans do". What you're suggesting sounds like ...when in rome, make the romans do as you want. The fact that you have the freedom to do this in whatever country you are residing in is a pretty big deal if you think bout it..and i believe that it should be appreciated rather than used as a means of spreading the kind of hate filled discrimination that you are in your posts. Try having freedom of speech as a lower caste citizen in the villages of India or the streets of Pakistan, and we'll see how much of a catalyst for change you can really be. North America IS white dominated, and the dominant culture WILL express their dominance through a variety of ways - social and cultural. How do you think white people were portrayed till very recently in Hindi movies- trust me when I say that Tom Alter wasn't getting much love on the screen in Bollywood. Were you standing upfor the mistreatment of whites then? Or better yet - how are africans portrayed in Indian media and how are they treated? Ever heard the term "hapshi"? Raja Ram Mohun Roy - considered one of the greatest reformers of his time was renowned for the fact that he actually ate with the British - an act which most of the high minded pundits of the time would have looked upon in disgust and pronounced "chhi chhi". We come from one of the most segregatory, racist, discriminatory societies in the world - so much so, that even religions such as Sikhism and Islam - which have religious tenets that specify the equality of their believers- have a caste system of sorts in the Indian Subcontinent. Ramgadiya, Jat etc for the Sikhs , and oonchi jaat and neechi jaat for the Muslims.
Simply put, if you have a problem with assimilation - the great american melting pot - which i guarantee is something that your parents or you or whoever migrated to North America first WAS made aware of, then why are you here? Go back to India, have fun with the caste system and then see how white women are objectified in the Indian media as dancers and sluts. Perhaps that would be more your kind of thing right? I know tons of immigrants who look upon mainstream north american culture as disgusting, vile, lacking morals, and yet these same individuals who crinkle their noses at mtv and naked women have no issue whatsoever taking advantage of a system and framework for success developed by none other than - drumroll- - the white man. I know tons of indian guys who see white girls as easy lays and lead them on with no intention of marrying them. Once they've sown their wild oats, they often end up with a nice, prim, proper virgin indian girl their parents chose for them from India who they probably pass on all manner of HPV too. You don't see this in the media too much do you? Would you be crying foul and speaking out against the way white people are portrayed then?
"khud hi ko kar buland itna ki har taqdeer se pehle, Khuda bande se yeh poochhe, bol teri razaa kya hai". Take those words, make them yours, and you will stick it to the "white man" and white culture you have such a problem with much more than the nonsense you're spouting. Indians are one of the most successful ethnic groups in North America - and I take great pride in the fact that we have made a mark for ourselves in this manner here. something like 30% of United States doctors are of Indian ethnic origin - and THAT is splendid. of course, you can also sit on your computer and complain about the unfair treatment of Indian people decades ago in Britain, and that serves me just fine too, but i doubt it'll really get any message of worth across. Best of luck with everything.


:applause:

[SarcasmicBengali]

The type of people complaining in this thread, are the type of people who will riot over Richard's gere's kiss to Shilpa Shetty, but sit back and do nothing when half the population of India is starving, getting persecuted because of caste distinctions, and religious rivarly etc..etc..

EXACTLY....

[chowdury]

:waveyFin:EXACTLY....

1 ting tat i av 2 point out is that That Shilpa Shetty COW.. owns a couple Pharma factories...

The ting is that she is not even paying som of her emploees the national minium wage in india which something like a 1p a day.. And has broken the new labour laws that india has!

and she has allowed all sorts of gender discrimination against her female employees! some times even physical violence! Secondly were some people that already knew wat she has done directly or is responsible for wat happened to tem...

and sometimes there is very little accountability for thing like this in india e.tc......................................

the public was kind of hurt by this! but it kept quite e.tc...........
som of them poor people did even get any wages! and how does tat shilpy shitty earn? and she can not spare $10! :-(

:waveyFin:


and using her as an example just show how much u know about south asia noting! i bet u will still say tat u do not understand..............


londonstani is te shittest book going u div!

it was mostly the poor that kicked up the fuss u div! tem rickshaw drivers were pissed off about it and all!

[chowdury]

Chowder,
You really have to relax. And I hope you realize calling a person from India a cow? is more of a compliment than an insult. But anyhow...I don't really know what you're talking about, because it has all the coherence of a Nirvana song..."garble garble garble...the world sucks". Punctuated with your below par spelling of such choice names as "Ghandi", and given your tendency to pick on things such as "go back to India" rather than placing said words in the context that they were in - I acquiesce to your inaneness. I still don't know what belgium's democracy has to do with anything?
you asked where we fit in the equation? We are something like a percent of the population of the united states - that's where and how we fit in. It's not easy to establish an identity in a new country or in a country where you come home to India and spend the day in America. Anyhow...if i knew your questions were regarding identity formation for desis (which they weren't - they were more comments on how media portrays us, and how white males get the indian girl and it's causing an existential crisis for you) i would have been less of a cow. One of the ways of bringing forward ideas - regardless of whether you're Bengali and it's in your nature to question - is to put them out in a way that is conducive to learning from others. Have you done that?
Anyhow...best of luck with finding your ABCD ness. And maybe check out Londonstani if you get a chance- good book for these matters.
Cheers.


since wen did i specificaly say tat i was strongly against assimilation? i did not!


:Puke::barfkiss;:waveyFin:

u said tats how democracy works right?.. in Belgium....... there u go again trying 2 condescend and ur some of ur criticising comments av noting 2 do, cause ur just stupid and remarks 2 tat person!

and of course:

drop ur sarcasm u know wat it was.. addressing.. of cause tis does highlight were desi r in te social stratum so far!

londonstani is te most cr************** ting eva...

[PRCIV]

So Aishwarya rai is a "product," for you? Are Indian women also "products," that they belong to you and only you, "your women." for god's sake, break the sterotype of indian male domination..that is being present.

yes, they are "our women".

[banshod]

Have ever found out how Belgium democracy works? what about the early dayz of American democracy?

Ghandis theory of majoritarianism of democracy? and wen the west (whites) adopted foreign things did they have 2 assimilate did they suffer any indignity?

I neva specifcally said that i am strongly oppsed to assilimation.... but have questions about it:



its about were do desi fitt in the equation?

"wat is wit the whity man movies trying to promote multi culturist by having scenes of bollywood sta and hott desi ass kissing whites and getting fucked?

Iz tis multi culturist?" but the second seriuos question is that does these movies actualy express multi culturual, but how does it? by mostly isolating the male counter partners? u can point out theres been 1 movie of a desi guy.... compared... to let say... but this is Marginalisation.

so is cultural assimilation being ethically and morally promoted?

Because if it contiues like this u will c shit loads of desis guys kicking the shit out of u!




"During that time of terrible social inequality for afro Americans i tink that it is was a major achievement that shood nevea b under estimated.... and yes for a small period of time they were progressing more then whites!

Secondly during that era blacks have contributed 2 progresments.. So i can not use that word because its white origin ! there r quite alott of western things that originate from asia!!"

if can not av any Sympathy for confused desis and them feeling misplaced then give up this forum its desi forum u cow! like u said give and take. Then y r u still here... cause theres loads of desis that r feeling misplaced. were do i fitt in this shit......

ljlkjlk

[banshod]

Chowder,
You really have to relax. And I hope you realize calling a person from India a cow? is more of a compliment than an insult. But anyhow...I don't really know what you're talking about, because it has all the coherence of a Nirvana song..."garble garble garble...the world sucks". Punctuated with your below par spelling of such choice names as "Ghandi", and given your tendency to pick on things such as "go back to India" rather than placing said words in the context that they were in - I acquiesce to your inaneness. I still don't know what belgium's democracy has to do with anything?
you asked where we fit in the equation? We are something like a percent of the population of the united states - that's where and how we fit in. It's not easy to establish an identity in a new country or in a country where you come home to India and spend the day in America. Anyhow...if i knew your questions were regarding identity formation for desis (which they weren't - they were more comments on how media portrays us, and how white males get the indian girl and it's causing an existential crisis for you) i would have been less of a cow. One of the ways of bringing forward ideas - regardless of whether you're Bengali and it's in your nature to question - is to put them out in a way that is conducive to learning from others. Have you done that?
Anyhow...best of luck with finding your ABCD ness. And maybe check out Londonstani if you get a chance- good book for these matters.
Cheers.

lmao. man you need to post on this forum more often.

[¤ * HoneY * ¤]

crap....... really.... there are some indian movies where desi boys date white girls like the movie with salman khan and the girls in heroes;ther's also that movie salam-e-eish where a desi guy date a white girl and dump for his parents then govinda fall in love wid her...besides wht the pbm if a desi date a white....if desis guys were worth it wud we go to white guys.... they always have gud reason to dump girls.. desi or non desi so wht's the point... and at last, don be sucha desi! live your life and let live!why cant desi guys/girls/aunty etc stop askin such stupid question
i mean i know a pakis guy here who's gettin married to an arabic girls. one aunty said "id kill my son if he does da same, i want my culture etc" but wht is our culture?? wht image wud he give if he leaves that girl for .. culture..
a french professor here fell in love with a kashmiri guy . she married him, and was used to go to see him every 6 month! wht did he do? came in france and divorced her... is this the desi culture all desis keep talkin about?

[¤ * HoneY * ¤]

yes, they are "our women".

we are not "your women" we got our own lif, our own perception our own expectation etc.... if we cant find wht we're lookin for in a desi guy why shud we gt married by force to a desi?..ad ruin the one only life we got... i hate this thinkin!i mean come on everyone one wants a soul mate, if a desi girls cant find hers in desi community she shudnt force herself...time has changed we're more independant and know wht we want...

[1mohan]

btw... there have been movies with Desi guys and Caucasian women goin back a long way... as far as 1970...

http://www.filmiholic.com/images/bombay%20talkie/bombay%20talkie%20cover.jpg

1st of all i want to know how Bombay talkie relates to western desis assimilating in to the masses in the western part of the world???

Look if i was white i would not be very bothered about assimilating in India depending on a couple of terms... Making this assumption because a good number of whites got this thing for India….

[SarcasmicBengali]

1st of all i want to know how Bombay talkie relates to western desis assimilating in to the masses in the western part of the world???

Look if i was white i would not be very bothered about assimilating in India depending on a couple of terms... Making this assumption because a good number of whites got this thing for India….

if you kept up with the string of replies in this thread you would realize:

my post was in responce to others claiming how there's no Desi guys hooking up with Caucasian women in movies... but always the other way around.

[Sacha-Sauda]

White people get a lot of flak from other races these days.

Haven't you noticed how many whites in South Africa, Zimbabwe, Europe, and North America have died already because of this social engineering/assimilation project? A LOT. There are criminal acts against whites which go unreported in media for the sake of political correctness. At the current rate, its the whites who will be bred out not the desis. So the problem isn't the whites, its the rich hypocrites in all races who are pandering for votes, and pushing the consequences onto the common man.

[Sacha-Sauda]

what's even more funny is that OP is from UK where desis are blowing up subways, grooming white girls for sex, gang wars etc and he is talking about social domination.

[1mohan]

if you kept up with the string of replies in this thread you would realize:

my post was in responce to others claiming how there's no Desi guys hooking up with Caucasian women in movies... but always the other way around.

:jerkit:

[1mohan]

what's even more funny is that OP is from UK where desis are blowing up subways, grooming white girls for sex, gang wars etc and he is talking about social domination.

not all desis are pakis, u might be one, y f-ing paki!



White people get a lot of flak from other races these days.

Haven't you noticed how many whites in South Africa, Zimbabwe, Europe, and North America have died already because of this social engineering/assimilation project? A LOT. There are criminal acts against whites which go unreported in media for the sake of political correctness. At the current rate, its the whites who will be bred out not the desis. So the problem isn't the whites, its the rich hypocrites in all races who are pandering for votes, and pushing the consequences onto the common man.

Oh i suppose u saw the overall statistics of race motivated crime! u got ur 88 version for this!

U talk full of crap, have read reports of black south Africans living standards!
WTF do u read the 88 mag for nazis!

what so the things that happened in zim were not reported, and only that but the west have broken their promise to zims, destroyed their economy in 94......... e.t.c don't talk about crap... if it was just rich people on all sides then y does race come in to this and the other rich side "black side"....... Because u talk full if shit...

go on other threads were there are people saying shit things about whites.................

:nuts:

If u want to bring Zimbabwe in to this then i suggest that u go to UK topic area and go to Zimbabwe thread! U can find out a lot of facts!

Any way forget about this anyway:

I am more interested in assimilation in the west and i think that the disadvantages will be more applicable to desis!

[chowdury]

1st of all i want to know how Bombay talkie relates to western desis assimilating in to the masses in the western part of the world???

Look if i was white i would not be very bothered about assimilating in India depending on a couple of terms... Making this assumption because a good number of whites got this thing for India….

if you kept up with the string of replies in this thread you would realize:

my post was in responce to others claiming how there's no Desi guys hooking up with Caucasian women in movies... but always the other way around.


:jerkit:





WTF, i never wanted to start off a topic directly talking about assimilation i thought this would have been i light way to start suggesting it.

WTF, was i talking about Bollywood movies, i asked how desis feel about this another indication that this is about western desis, seeing that to my knowledge that desi is used as a term by western desi!

Don't start acting stupid when its convenient...

[desi_uk]

Bollywood lacks creativity most of their films are copied from Hollywood i was all for Bollywood when i found out Sholay was a copy from some western movie arrrrrgggghhhhhh Gabbar kithnay admi hai

[Sacha-Sauda]

not all desis are pakis, u might be one, y f-ing paki!

im not a paki moron so stfu.


Oh i suppose u saw the overall statistics of race motivated crime! u got ur 88 version for this!

U talk full of crap, have read reports of black south Africans living standards!
WTF do u read the 88 mag for nazis!

what so the things that happened in zim were not reported, and only that but the west have broken their promise to zims, destroyed their economy in 94......... e.t.c don't talk about crap... if it was just rich people on all sides then y does race come in to this and the other rich side "black side"....... Because u talk full if shit...

go on other threads were there are people saying shit things about whites.................

:nuts:

If u want to bring Zimbabwe in to this then i suggest that u go to UK topic area and go to Zimbabwe thread! U can find out a lot of facts!

Any way forget about this anyway:

I am more interested in assimilation in the west and i think that the disadvantages will be more applicable to desis!

For someone as silly and ignorant as you, fact is irrelevant. Fact to you is nonsense to me and vice versa. So spare me your emotional rantings. Nothing that I have stated is false and you didn't prove nothing.

[SarcasmicBengali]

Bollywood lacks creativity most of their films are copied from Hollywood i was all for Bollywood when i found out Sholay was a copy from some western movie arrrrrgggghhhhhh Gabbar kithnay admi hai

did you find out that the Western movie was copied from a Japanese movie...?

:rolleyes:

[desi_uk]

did you find out that the Western movie was copied from a Japanese movie...?

:rolleyes:

Was it wow wee

[1mohan]

Was it wow wee

matrix was copied from japan!!! there a couple bollywood movies that are ok and like........

there was that other movie that was copied form japan.. its bit like final fanatasy.....

[SarcasmicBengali]

Was it wow wee


is your faith in Hollywood shattered now?

[desi_uk]

is your faith in Hollywood shattered now?

lol no i rarely watch movies and if i do i like comedies

[desi_uk]

matrix was copied from japan!!! there a couple bollywood movies that are ok and like........

there was that other movie that was copied form japan.. its bit like final fanatasy.....

I like the old classic bollywood movies like sholay and naseeb most of the Amitabh bajhan movies are good the new ones hmmmm well they try too hard

[1mohan]

:nuts:im not a paki moron so stfu.



For someone as silly and ignorant as you, fact is irrelevant. Fact to you is nonsense to me and vice versa. So spare me your emotional rantings. Nothing that I have stated is false and you didn't prove nothing.

go and report to 88 u know nothing about zim and nothing about south africa.......

:nuts:

http://forums.ratedesi.com/showthread.php?t=259973

[chowdury]

Bollywood lacks creativity most of their films are copied from Hollywood i was all for Bollywood when i found out Sholay was a copy from some western movie arrrrrgggghhhhhh Gabbar kithnay admi hai

well i can not find any info from the imdb that Sholay is a copy.. it stated that it has inspired a euro movie, but has not stated that was derived from some where else...

[SarcasmicBengali]

well i can not find any info from the imdb that Sholay is a copy.. it stated that it has inspired a euro movie, but has not stated that was derived from some where else...

THE SEVEN SAMURAI = THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN = SHOLAY

[hvarma]

some desi guys like me hav definitely got mixed feelings, by the media.

Any one feeling a little bit uneasy by the recent movies..

i.e 1. like white dudes going to india fucking shit loads of the hottes intelligent desi gals....

2. aishwarya movie in hollywood, were all south asian culture was abraviated in to spices and cinaman and curry oh i forgot te sacred chili powder! and had the choice of leaving te "butt ding ding shop" as my white pals point out! to go and fuck the white guy.

3. touring india, story line tasting hottest desi gals!

theres a couple of other movies that i left out

i.e east meeting west (modern day version) via desi gals getting fucked by west!

While the media protrays desi guys some wat ecentirc weed smoking pot heads, i.e harold and kumar,getting pushed around by our white superiors!and by general people!

I can imagine in the real world for some of the desi guys around this is very true. it feels like that my basic socail needs r inexisitant!

This is not all i know that some desi guys must have definitly thougts about it, a desi guy posted desi porn links for us guys but on the front page its a dessi gal fucking a white dude! There iz a very big cultural imbalance in the adult media as well as movies and media.

or am te only 1 that had this brief thought that recurred in my head?
or te other desis just sheep!

this gives me 2 fears:

1.


2.

I would like to say that Bollywood movies portray both sides, Indian guys with American girls and Indian girls with American guys, cuz the truth of the matter is it happens. Another thing, most of the movies you've mentioned are NRI based films from female authors, they've probably realized this kind of thing happens or for whatever reason they thought to make it a trend.