top 10 rappers of all time

[Midnight_Toker]

list em. here's mine

10. Eazy-E
9. Eminem
8. Talib Kweli
7. Ice Cube
6. Dr. Dre (deserves to be here even though he's a producer)
5. Rakim
4. Nas
3. Big L
2. Biggie
1. 2pac

[yussi]

soulja boy should be in there :neutral:

[BilalisPakistani]

Should really do the list w/o Biggie and 2pac.

1. 2pac
2. Biggie
3. Nas
4. Eminem
5. Krayzie Bone
6. Snoop (Before 1999)
7. Scarface
8. KRS One
9. Ice Cube
10. Fat Pat

[I Am McLovin]

Group, but Run DMC

[di vinci]

vinalla ice

[Midnight_Toker]

Should really do the list w/o Biggie and 2pac.

1. 2pac
2. Biggie
3. Nas
4. Eminem
5. Krayzie Bone
6. Snoop (Before 1999)
7. Scarface
8. KRS One
9. Ice Cube
10. Fat Pat

nice list. but fuck i forgot to put KRS-One to my list. he is easily top 10

:no:

[HU55AIN]

1=PAC
2=BIGGIE
3=RAKIM
4=NAS
5=JAY-Z
6=SNOOP
7=SCARFACE
8=BONE THUGS
9=UGK
10=EMINEM

DATS MINES :cool:

[SeiQuattroDue]

1) Killah Priest
2) Chino XL
3) KRS One
4) Mos Def
5) Canibus
6) Ras Kass
7) Rakim
8) 2Pac
9) Nas
10) Big Punisher

Personal choice.

[j_a_l]

1) Killah Priest
2) Chino XL
3) KRS One
4) Mos Def
5) Canibus
6) Ras Kass
7) Rakim
8) 2Pac
9) Nas
10) Big Punisher

Personal choice.
im not trying to dog on u
but c'mon bro
chino xl over pac??

[j_a_l]

list em. here's mine

10. Eazy-E
9. Eminem
8. Talib Kweli
7. Ice Cube
6. Dr. Dre (deserves to be here even though he's a producer)
5. Rakim
4. Nas
3. Big L
2. Biggie
1. 2pac
where's jigga??

[HU55AIN]

1) Killah Priest
2) Chino XL
3) KRS One
4) Mos Def
5) Canibus
6) Ras Kass
7) Rakim
8) 2Pac
9) Nas
10) Big Punisher

Personal choice.
No biggie? rass kass is sooo underground no1 heard of him.

[21cent]

no Beastie Boys? one of the first original hip-hop groups

[gnijor]

Problem with top tens is someone always gets left off. Freestyle skill got completely left out; lil wayne has to be up there somewhere

[Midnight_Toker]

i didn't add any groups since the purpose of the thread was just top solo/individual rappers. but ya groups worth mentioning are NWA, Bone Thugs, Wu-Tang Clan, Sugarhill Gang, Souls of Mischief, Public Enemy, Boogie Down Productions, Run DMC, Geto Boys, etc..

[jattniz_chuttni]

list em. here's mine

10. Eazy-E
9. Eminem
8. Talib Kweli
7. Ice Cube
6. Dr. Dre (deserves to be here even though he's a producer)
5. Rakim
4. Nas
3. Big L
2. Biggie
1. 2pacUm, i think you're wrong. That's the list of the most controversial rappers ever. Not the best.

The only people I agree with on that list are biggie, nas, and talib.

And Tupac is fucking overrated. It was always quantity over quality for him.

So no. I disagree. completely.

[jattniz_chuttni]

i think someone's gunna flame me.

[Midnight_Toker]

i think someone's gunna flame me.

ahh i really wanna see your list

:google:

[Lie Detector]

Wow there are some pretty good lists here. I like that no one is putting Jay-Z in their top ten. He put out one good album in his lifetime (well, maybe two if you count Vol. 1), and he's coasted for the rest.

[sagarmatha]

Nas
Rakim
KRS-one
Tupac
GZA/Genius
Common
Black Thought
Mos Def
Pharoahe Monch
Redman

inpo

[Midnight_Toker]

Wow there are some pretty good lists here. I like that no one is putting Jay-Z in their top ten. He put out one good album in his lifetime (well, maybe two if you count Vol. 1), and he's coasted for the rest.

Jay-Z's Reasonable Doubt was a masterpiece. after 2000 he just went too commercial. even though i really like Jay-Z's music

[jattniz_chuttni]

ahh i really wanna see your list

:google:don't have one. it's rather subjective if anything.

and i've yet to listen to every worthwhile emcee out there so, uh, no.

[Punjabi_Link]

You guys are ranking Tupac a little too high. I rank rappers like Nas and Rakim higher than Tupac.

[DasJa]

Surprised to see no immortal technique yet

[Midnight_Toker]

You guys are ranking Tupac a little too high. I rank rappers like Nas and Rakim higher than Tupac.

Nas is NOT better than Tupac. one word. Nastradamus!

[sagarmatha]

don't have one. it's rather subjective if anything.

and i've yet to listen to every worthwhile emcee out there so, uh, no.

post your favorites then....silly!

[Midnight_Toker]

Surprised to see no immortal technique yet

good call

[Punjabi_Link]

Nas is NOT better than Tupac. one word. Nastradamus!

illmatic > any tupac album

[jattniz_chuttni]

post your favorites then....silly!right now it's probably lupe or a tribe called quest for me.

you guys might be like "wtf?!?!"

but i like rythm, chilled quality beats with my music with meaning in the lyrics. flava, to put it short

[BilalisPakistani]

i think someone's gunna flame me.
Lol you were born after Pac died so its understandable.

[jattniz_chuttni]

Lol you were born after Pac died so its understandable.werd. i'm like 8 anyways so it's whatever.

[DasJa]

1) Killah Priest
2) Chino XL
3) KRS One
4) Mos Def
5) Canibus
6) Ras Kass
7) Rakim
8) 2Pac
9) Nas
10) Big Punisher

Personal choice.
:werd:

[BilalisPakistani]

Wow there are some pretty good lists here. I like that no one is putting Jay-Z in their top ten. He put out one good album in his lifetime (well, maybe two if you count Vol. 1), and he's coasted for the rest.
Jay Z is trash. ***** is crazy in love.

[BilalisPakistani]

werd. i'm like 8 anyways so it's whatever.
Lol my bad. You were 4 when he died.
Sorry. Geez.

[jattniz_chuttni]

Lol my bad. You were 4 when he died.
Sorry. Geez.2

(wtf.?)

[BilalisPakistani]

1) Killah Priest
2) Chino XL
3) KRS One
4) Mos Def
5) Canibus
6) Ras Kass
7) Rakim
8) 2Pac
9) Nas
10) Big Punisher

Personal choice.
lawl. You must be British.

[coyne20]

1. Makaveli the Don
2. Biggie Smalls
3. Nas
4. GZA (Wu Tang Clan)
5. Napoleon (of outlawz)
6. The Game
7. Scarface
8. Bone Thugz
9. Masta Killah (Wu Tang Clan)
10. Kadafi (of outlawz)

[BilalisPakistani]

1=PAC
2=BIGGIE
3=RAKIM
4=NAS
5=JAY-Z
6=SNOOP
7=SCARFACE
8=BONE THUGS
9=UGK
10=EMINEM

DATS MINES :cool:
I like how you can kinda tell where someone is from by looking at their list.

You must be from Texas.

[BilalisPakistani]

2

(wtf.?)
Shorty wanna be a thug.

[BilalisPakistani]

And I think Rakim, Talib and Mos Def are so overrated.

hate me hate me.

[sagarmatha]

And I think Rakim, Talib and Mos Def are so overrated.

hate me hate me.

:love:

[Midnight_Toker]

Jay Z is trash. ***** is crazy in love.

talkin about jay-z anyone read this article? old news by the way but probably answers the question to what beyonce really saw in him :razz:


Hip Hop Groupies Describe Jay-Z, Meth, & Jada's Skills


Ozone magazine's latest issue surveyed a group of anonymous groupies about rappers they've had sex with to get the juicy details, including Jay-Z, Method Man, Jadakiss, and Ray Benzino. One woman described Jay-Z as "boring" in the bedroom, even though his manhood was "the biggest you will ever see in your life. Huge. Like a one-liter Pepsi bottle. It could block out the sun." Read more.

[Midnight_Toker]

And I think Rakim, Talib and Mos Def are so overrated.

hate me hate me.

:no:

but everyone's entitled to their opinion

[BilalisPakistani]

talkin about jay-z anyone read this article? old news by the way but probably answers the question to what beyonce really saw in him :razz:


Hip Hop Groupies Describe Jay-Z, Meth, & Jada's Skills


Ozone magazine's latest issue surveyed a group of anonymous groupies about rappers they've had sex with to get the juicy details, including Jay-Z, Method Man, Jadakiss, and Ray Benzino. One woman described Jay-Z as "boring" in the bedroom, even though his manhood was "the biggest you will ever see in your life. Huge. Like a one-liter Pepsi bottle. It could block out the sun." Read more.
:rofl: :rofl:

[BilalisPakistani]

:no:

but everyone's entitled to their opinion
I think they just get that New York/East Coast hype.

[SpicyBrownRapper]

Your list is very very shitty.

Uber shitty.

If there was a shittier list, it would smell of shittyness. Here's a better one.

1. KRS-One
2. Big Daddy Kane
3. Rakim
4. Biggie
5. Kool G Rap
6. Ice Cube
7. Kool Keith
8. Common
9. Redman
10. LL Cool J

[ishq.on.da.beach]

i only agree with 2pac :love:

ps : i added you :lulz:

[BilalisPakistani]

Your list is very very shitty.

Uber shitty.

If there was a shittier list, it would smell of shittyness. Here's a better one.

1. KRS-One
2. Big Daddy Kane
3. Rakim
4. Biggie
5. Kool G Rap
6. Ice Cube
7. Kool Keith
8. Common
9. Redman
10. LL Cool J
Lol you must be from New York.

[SpicyBrownRapper]

Talib Kweli is a shitty rapper. I think its commendable that his rap content are much better than those of the majority of rappers out there, but technically he's a very shitty rapper. His flow is very awkward, and his voice fucking boring as all hell.

[SpicyBrownRapper]

Lol you must be from New York.

No dude, not even close. I've got much more love for early west coast stuff, and even now prefer the bay area rappers but the east has had a lot of significant impact on rap in the past. Hard to deny that.

[BilalisPakistani]

Talib Kweli is a shitty rapper. I think its commendable that his rap content are much better than those of the majority of rappers out there, but technically he's a very shitty rapper. His flow is very awkward, and his voice fucking boring as all hell.
Yes. Agreed.

[BilalisPakistani]

No dude, not even close. I've got much more love for early west coast stuff, and even now prefer the bay area rappers but the east has had a lot of significant impact on rap in the past. Hard to deny that.
No doubt. I just think emcees from the East Coast get overhyped.

[SpicyBrownRapper]

No doubt. I just think emcees from the East Coast get overhyped.

There is no one in the east right now though. Just about no one. Like I said, these days I pretty much stick with the bay area rappers. Most of the shit I will listen to in my care is old Ice Cube, D.O.C, Dre and Snoop. Those are all bangers that never get old. The east's stuff ages pretty damn bad, even the orginal 36 Chambers sounds so fucking bad now. But at the time, East had shit on lockdown.

[I Am McLovin]

money bitches hoes rap was mildy interesting when it 1st came out, it's just old and repetitive now.

[BadFingerBoogie]

1. 2pac
2. Big
3. Nas
4. Rakim
5. Gangstarr
6. Jay-Z
7. Snoop (Before 1999)*
8. KRS-ONE
9. Eazy E
10. Eminem

[PrOfFaSeE]

1 - 10
chali tuna

[ishq.on.da.beach]

money bitches hoes rap was mildy interesting when it 1st came out, it's just old and repetitive now.
:o mclovin

[I Am McLovin]

:o mclovin ..;)

[SnakE187EyeZ]

None of the members of Mobb Deep are in any of yours list?

Pre-G-Unit their music was the shit.

[Midnight_Toker]

i only agree with 2pac :love:

ps : i added you :lulz:

im me. if you are not on then get on!

lol

[ishq.on.da.beach]

lol im not coming online im abt to go watch tv =P

i was on earlier,

[Midnight_Toker]

lol im not coming online im abt to go watch tv =P

i was on earlier,

:squint:

better be on tonight! :google:

[ishq.on.da.beach]

:squint:

better be on tonight! :google:
lol, alright





:hug:

[(sic)]

no one mentioned Immortal Technique

[PrOfFaSeE]

blackstar!
public enemy!

[PrOfFaSeE]

None of the members of Mobb Deep are in any of yours list?

Pre-G-Unit their music was the shit.
yeah but now they come around but they never come close

[yeahwhat]

1. soulja boy
2. nelly
3. shop boyz
4. vanilla ice
5. da brat
6. ja rule
7. J-kwon
8. bow wow
9. P diddy
10. Chamillionaire

:ugh:

[ishq.on.da.beach]

1. soulja boy
2. nelly
3. shop boyz
4. vanilla ice
5. da brat
6. ja rule
7. J-kwon
8. bow wow
9. P diddy
10. Chamillionaire

:ugh:

ja rule is cute..:lulz:

soulja boy is ugly

bow wow..so sexy..

chamillionaire hes cute too

[YaBoyDesi]

pretty good lists..bout i dont know bout the order of em. :think:

[I Am McLovin]

How about Grandmaster Flash

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we need more rap like this today. not the garbage called "rap" today.

[I Am McLovin]

ice cube was pretty good tho

[ishq.on.da.beach]

How about Grandmaster Flash

k3kRuJhIVIo

we need more rap like this today. not the garbage called "rap" today.
loll oh mclovah

[BilalisPakistani]

1. soulja boy
2. nelly
3. shop boyz
4. vanilla ice
5. da brat
6. ja rule
7. J-kwon
8. bow wow
9. P diddy
10. Chamillionaire

:ugh:
Lol chamillionaire doesnt belong on that list. Back when he was with Paul wall they used to wreck.

[ishq.on.da.beach]

Lol chamillionaire doesnt belong on that list. Back when he was with Paul wall they used to wreck.
:hand: hes my fave, you loser

[I Am McLovin]

loll oh mclovahfo shizzle

[BilalisPakistani]

:hand: hes my fave, you loser
You dont even know about Chamillionaire like I do!

[ishq.on.da.beach]

You dont even know about Chamillionaire like I do!


i've seen him, and hes good looking

so thats enough LOL...........

[YaBoyDesi]

ugh was yeahwhats list real? :neutral:

[disyaboi II]

1.tupac
2.biggie
3.nas
4.rakhim
5.eazy e
6.bizzy bone
7.krayzie bone
8. wu tang
9. krs-one
10. ras kas

theres soooooo much

tupac and biggie are obvious, so is nas....


but why yall forgetting bizzy?

[disyaboi II]

Lol chamillionaire doesnt belong on that list. Back when he was with Paul wall they used to wreck.

this is correct, and if you dont think so

get ya mind correct. you know what im talkin about h-town, home of the swisha house, candy paint and chopped and screwed.

[I Am McLovin]

i've seen him, and hes good looking

so thats enough LOL...........[http://blogs.sohh.com/dirty/2007/09/27/chamillionaire-2.jpg

[disyaboi II]

america's next top model

[YaBoyDesi]

lol@ chamillionaire pic..i remember when g-unit came out and girls were like OMGMOMZZ lloyd Banks is hot. :no:

[jumpn jza]

This man should be in it.

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/4549/immortaltechniquesubwayzu0.png

[bludy]

To be a top ten rapper, you only can't be lyrical but have to have command in your voice, be charismatic and make music that sounds good and has repeat value.

There's too many rappers to name in a top 10.

Biggie
Pac
Nas
Jay
Scarface
Eminem
Method Man
Ice Cube
Common
Talib
Big L
Big Pun
Vinnie Paz
Mos Def
Immortal Technique

In terms of upcoming rappers, Saigon and Papoose hold a lot of promise.


Prodigy is sick. He fell off but check HNIC 2. Pap got 20 mixtapes but need an album. Saigon is sick. Styles P is gutter and sickk. Jada damnn dukes a beast.

Jay-z-People saying he doesnt deserve best rapper alive yall just stunting. Listen to his albums. I used to be one of you people too uuntil I heard his albums. Even an album like Kingdom Come has sick joints.

[Money Tre]

First of all Eminem shouldn't even be in there...and second of all,Lil Wayne is the best rapper alive and all time,second to 2pac tho

[sagarmatha]

First of all Eminem shouldn't even be in there...and second of all,Lil Wayne is the best rapper alive and all time,second to 2pac tho

OKAYY MONEY TRE

[yeahwhat]

ugh was yeahwhats list real? :neutral:

lol of course not... worse rappers ever

[BdZ_SwEEtieZ]

1-2pac
2-biggie
3-nas
4-jayz
5-talib
6-eminem
7-snoop
8-common

fab only because he from bk..:gol:
i like willi only for his clean rap.
ice cube good too

[yeahwhat]

ja rule is cute..:lulz:

soulja boy is ugly

bow wow..so sexy..

chamillionaire hes cute too

eww
:ugh: :ugh:

[chicago85thst]

1)2pac
2)biggie
3)wu tang
4)snoop
5)scarface
6)eazy e
7)bonethugz
8)Jurrasic 5
9)eminem
10) Talib

[disyaboi II]

and still i dunno why yall keep leaving him off the list...

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sawed off leather face of course

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tupac is the best still....


and lil wayne the best rapper alive?? you are on the same drugs as he is...


quit sleepin on Nas, jay- Z, pap, cass, canibus, z-ro

[anorexorcist]

I really don't think you can put a barometer on this kind of thing and just say; yeah, these are the top 10 rappers period. You can look at it in a few ways:

Discussing Issues/Societal Relevance/Power of Content
Lyrical Ability/Wordplay
Energy/Emotional Response Invoking/Delivery

I'll give a brief justification as to why for each.

Content:

1.) 2Pac

You can talk all you want about how he was supposedly fake, but when you examine his early upbringing and you read the book that was a companion to the movie, "Tupac: Resurrection" and you get a chance to watch the unreleased interviews from '96 (I have a stash that no one has ever heard bar maybe 5 people) and you hear the unreleased songs old (I just got a demo tape he recorded when he was 16) and near his death (I used to be one of 5 people that had this, and then some dick uploaded it all to youtube) and you hear his plans for the future, you realize this was no ordinary man.

2.) KRS-One

Not a single track on any of his albums has ever been wasted on content that is not important. I challenge you to prove me wrong. And he's been doing it for over 20 years. In fact, I challenge anyone to find me someone who spent 45 minutes freestyling about 100 rappers and their role in hip-hop history, while pointing to his own "hip hop constitution" as a playbook/guide for his freestyle. I was about 10 feet away from him while he did this, and to top it off it was at 2 AM in the morning. That moment alone made this decision a no-brainer.

3.) Dead Prez

As far as modern rappers go, no one has the balls to say the stuff they say (you need to hear them before you make any judgments) and no one has the independent credibility to make it legit. They don't have any allegiance to any label or anyone in the industry for that matter. Their interest is black power, even at the expense of whitey.

4.) Public Enemy

The original version of Dead Prez. Chuck D is a hip hop legend, and he basically laid the groundwork for DP to make it big.

5.) NWA

The fact that they were the first rap group to get Congress and social watch groups pissed speaks for itself. I miss these guys so much. RIP Eazy.

6.) Immortal Technique

I've heard about half of one or two songs, and while I like what this guy is supposedly about; I really feel like he's getting way too much hype, especially from young desi Muslims. I'm not sure what it's about, but I've read some lyrics and it's some powerful stuff.

7.) Scarface

Early on I think you could group Scarface with that whole NWA/Public Enemy/Angry rap movement, but if you listen to the stuff he's been putting out lately (like since 02/03) you won't find a better, more reflective, more thoughtful take on the street life that still manages to come across as genuine and keeps it real.

8.) Brother Ali

I'd say he's the best rapper in the game right NOW. Sure, KRS-One is still around; Rakim is still around; but when was the last time they put out anything of any significance? Something that mattered and was relevant? Not for a long time. He owns the throne, and the media wasted its time on Eminem for years as the "big white rapper" when they should have turned attention to this Muslim.

9.) Common

Even though his last two albums are nowhere near Resurrection, it still amazes me how he can be with a major level, and have such a mainstream sellout such as Kanye all over his stuff, and still manage to spit on issues that matter in our world today.

10.) Nas

Initially he made it big with his wordplay and lyrics and street poet image. Then he fell off. The reason he made it back was because he decided to try a different approach (which was what he had been honing during his fall from grace, see the Lost Tapes)--talk about socially relevant issues; be the "conscience of hip-hop." And so that's why now you see him getting so much attention for his album title "N****" and how many rappers got insecure with his last one "Hip Hop Is Dead." When you rile up so many people, you are definitely socially relevant. Even if he's not perfect at it.

Lyrical Ability/Wordplay

For this one I'll quote a lyric or two.

1.) Rakim

"for those that envy a MC it can be,
hazardous to your health so be friendly,
a matter of life and death, just like a ethch-a-sketch,
shake 'till your clear, make it disappear, make the next,
after the ceremony, let the rhyme rest in peace,
if not, my soul'll release!
the scene is recreated, reincarnated, updated, I'm glad you made it,
cuz your about to see a disasterous sight,
a performance never again performed on a mic:
Lyrics of fury!"

there are no more words after that

2.) Big L

Yo ever since I was young, I ripped mics and I killed beats
And I'm known to milk freaks and hit em on silk sheets
No dame can give me a bad name, I got mad fame
I'm quick to put a slug in a fag brain
I be placin snitches inside lakes and ditches
And if I catch AIDS, then I'ma start rapin bitches
I'm all about makin papes kid
I killed my mother with a shovel just like Norman Bates did
My old man in the past, stuck me up without a mask
Then his ass cold dashed with my cash fast
Fifty G's is what the creep stole; so the next day
knocked on his door and shot his granny through the peephole
That's the type of shit I'm on, word is bond
Got it goin on, from the break of dawns to the early morn'
You know my style I'm wild, comin straight out of Harlem pal
It's Big L, the motherfuckin Problem Child

RIP.

3.) GZA

Fake *****z get blitzed
and mic bites I swing swords and cut clowns
Shit is too swift to bite you record and write it down
I flow like the blood on a murder scene, like a syringe
on some loud howl shit, to insert a fiend
But it was yo ock, the shop stolen heart
Catch a swollen heart from not rollin smart
I put mad pressure, on phony wack rhymes that get hurt
Shit's played, like zodiac signs on sweatshirt
That's minimum, and feminine like sandals
My minimum table stacks a verse on a gamble
Energy is felt once the cards are dealt
With the impact of roundhouse kicks from black belts
that attack, the mic-fones like cyclones or typhoon
I represent from midnight to high noon
I don't waste ink, ***** I think
I drop megaton BOMBS more faster than you blink
Cause rhyme thoughts travel at a tremendous speed
Clouds of smoke, of natural blends of weed
Only under one circumstance is if I'm blunted
Turn that shit up, my clan in da front want it

4.) Canibus

Alone in my room, looking thru the 32X telescope zoom
adjusting the focus of the moon
One should not assume the philosophy of David Hume
is nothing more then a subjective conclusion
What is the maximum field rate application?
the run away glaciation surrounding the ocean basin
affects the population fluctuation
on a continuous basis but that's just the basics
The juxtaposition of Canibus' position
the precision something no other has written
Way above and beyond what was intended
the unparalleled malleable enunciation of a sentence
You didnt go to college obviously
I can tell by your ungodly unintelligible terminology
A remarkable odyssey, the rhymes of modern speeds
when the brain orders the body not to breathe
Your competency is not up to speed, you not in my league
you couldnt possibly be hotter than me
Or oppositely you're minus 25 degrees, you'd squeeze
but the condensation makes rifle barrels freeze
Allow me to speak figuratively, ***** please
my intellectual properties are about the size of Greece
Your counselor advised you not to speak
my counselor advised me to keep rhymin until they stopped the beat
In the words of Joseph Heller, "I learned how to write better"
even though it sort of irked me
He said he didnt understand the process of the imagination
but he felt he was at its mercy
Which exploits my point perfectly and certainly reinforces
the reason why nobody's probably ever heard of me
Couldnt understand what I mean by ill
unless you try to translate what I print to film
This is the line of will, the circle of time
the cycle of eternity, the emergence of 1 mind
Academic phonetics render critics tounge-tied
Ive personified dry humor of cum-laude alumni
A wise man sees failure as progress
a fool divorces his knowledge and misses the logic
And loses his soul in the process
obsessed with nonsense with a caricature that has no content
My style is masterful, multi-lateral
I could battle a fool and be naturally cruel
Words of scourn are a disasterous tool
from an existentialist view, I'm a better rapper then you
Grab the mic and rip your physical fabric in 2
my attitude is fucked up but admirable
Different methods interpreted into different forms
from entirely different perceptions and seen from different norms
Not just spittin a poem there's much more involved
there's much more pieces of the puzzle for you to solve
48 orders of mechanical laws
and rays of creational cause, enhance the cadence of my bars
Maybe I am self-absorbed
but thats the effect, to find the cause you should ask my A&R
Today is what it is, but only because yesterday was what it was
permitting you heard of Beelzebub
A tale of demons and drugs, pissy drunk in the club
with the DJ doing the needle rub
Chances are you'll never see me son
yeah I know my names Canibus but I cant help you if you need a dub

5.) Nas

This rhythmatic explosion, is what your frame of mind has chosen
I'll leave your brain stimulated, *****z is frozen
Speak with criminal slang, begin like a violin
End like Leviathan, it's deep well let me try again
Wisdom be leakin out my grapefruit troop
I dominate break loops, givin mics men-e-straul cycles
Street's disciple, I rock beats that's mega trifle
And groovy but smoother than moves by Villanova
You're still a soldier, I'm like Sly Stone in Cobra
Packin like a rasta in the weed spot
Vocals'll squeeze glocks, MC's eavesdrop
Though they need not to sneak
My poetry's deep, I never fell
Nas's raps should be locked in a cell
It ain't hard to tell

6.) Notorious B.I.G.

My man Inf left a Tec and a nine at my crib
Turned himself in, he had to do a bid
A one-to-three, he be home the end of '93
I'm ready to get this paper, G, you with me?

Motherfucking right, my pocket's looking kind of tight
and I'm stressed, yo Biggie let me get the vest

No need for that, just grab the fucking gat
The first pocket that's fat the Tec is to his back
Word is bond, I'm a smoke him yo don't fake no moves (what?)
Treat it like boxing: stick and move, stick and move

*****, you ain't got to explain shit
I've been robbin motherfuckers since the slave ships
with the same clip and the same four-five
Two point-blank, a motherfucker's sure to die
That's my word, ***** even try to bogart
have his mother singing "It's so hard..."

Yes, love love you're fucking attitude
because the ***** play pussy that's the ***** that's getting screwed
and bruised up from the pistol whipping
webs on the neck from the necklace stripping
Then I'm dipping up the block and I'm robbing bitches too
up the herring bones and bamboos
I wouldn't give fuck if you're pregnant
Give me the baby rings and a #1 MOM pendant

I'm slamming *****z like Shaquille, shit is real
When it's time to eat a meal I rob and steal
'cos Mom Duke ain't giving me shit
so for the bread and butter I leave *****z in the gutter
Huh, word to mother, I'm dangerous
Crazier than a bag of fucking Angel Dust
When I bust my gat motherfuckers take dirt naps
I'm all that and a dime sack, where the payback?

7.) Jay-Z

I'm makin short term goals,whonder whether foes
just put away the leathers and put ice on the gold
chilly with enough bail money to free a big willy
high stakes, i got more at stake than philly
shoppin sprees, copin three, duece fever i guess its fully loaded,
ah yes,
bouncin in the lex luger, tires smoke like buddha
50 g's to the crap shooter,
*****s can't fade me
chrome socks beamin, through my periphial i see ya schemin
stop dreamin',i leave ya body steamin
*****s is feenin, whats the meanin
i'm leanin on any ***** intervenin with the sound of my money machine-in
my cuff runnin over with hundreds
im one of the best *****s that done it
six digits and runnin,
y'all *****s don't want it
i got the godfather flow, the don juan demarco
swear to god, don't get it fucked up

8.) Big Pun

My crew puff lye, anyone test the Pun must die
Just give me one try -- 'Now you know you done fucked up right?'
Hah, you ain't got no wins in my casa
Que te pasa, you ain't even in my clasa
I hate a actor that plays a rapper
I'm Terror Squad beta kappa everybody's favorite rapper
Grand imperial college material insane criminal
The same ***** who known to blow out your brain mineral
I reign subliminal inside your visual
Try to supply your physical with my spiritual side of this lyrical
I'll appear in your dreams, like Freddie do, no kidding you
Even if I stuttered I would still sh-sh-sh-shit on you
Soon as I chitter chatter you shitter shatter, I'm the kid
out of Bronx, that'll stomp you to death like it didn't matter
I'm even better than before, iller metaphors
Killers bet it all on Pun, cause one verse, dead em all

9.) MC JUICE

Dear Battles
I know you're going to miss me
Not many have been able to diss me
Through my history
From just Juice to J.U.I.C.E, shit
Conglom local shit with a G-flow, peep it
Just give me a record deal, and I might just sneak in
A few flows, motherfucker: who knows
And we will be reunited; it will feel so great

10.) Raekwon


Started off on the island, AK Shaolin
*****z whylin, gun shots thrown the phone dialin
Back in the days of eight now, makin a tape now
Rae gotta get a plate now
Ignorant and mad young, wanted to be the one
Till I got (BAM! BAM!) thrown one
Yeah, my pops was a fiend since sixteen
Shootin' that (that's that shit!) in his blood stream
That's the life of a crimey, real live crimey
If *****s know the half is behind me
Day one, yo, growin all up in the ghetto
Now I'm a weed fiend, jettin the Palmetto
In Medina, yo no doubt the God got crazy clout
Pushin the big joint from down South
So if you're filthy stacked up
Betta watch ya back and duck
Cause these fiends they got it cracked up
Now my man from up north, now he got the law
It's solid as a rock and crazy salt
No jokes, I'm not playin, get his folks
Desert Eagle his dick and put 'em in a yolk (AAH!)
And to know for sure, I got reck and rip shop
I pointed a gat at his mother's knot
(Yo, Rae, don't do that shit, man! Don't do that shit! )
Fuck that

And finally, energy/emotion/power/delivery. I guess I could just list this.

1.) 2Pac
2.) KRS-One
3.) ODB
4.) Bizzy Bone
5.) DMX
6.) Sheek Louch
7.) M.O.P.
8.) Scarface
9.) Lauryn Hill
10.) Eminem

long post but i think most of you don't have any clue what you're talking about. i challenge any of you to justify your lists and defend them, as i did for mine.

[disyaboi II]

I really don't think you can put a barometer on this kind of thing and just say; yeah, these are the top 10 rappers period. You can look at it in a few ways:

Discussing Issues/Societal Relevance/Power of Content
Lyrical Ability/Wordplay
Energy/Emotional Response Invoking/Delivery

I'll give a brief justification as to why for each.

Content:

1.) 2Pac

You can talk all you want about how he was supposedly fake, but when you examine his early upbringing and you read the book that was a companion to the movie, "Tupac: Resurrection" and you get a chance to watch the unreleased interviews from '96 (I have a stash that no one has ever heard bar maybe 5 people) and you hear the unreleased songs old (I just got a demo tape he recorded when he was 16) and near his death (I used to be one of 5 people that had this, and then some dick uploaded it all to youtube) and you hear his plans for the future, you realize this was no ordinary man.

2.) KRS-One

Not a single track on any of his albums has ever been wasted on content that is not important. I challenge you to prove me wrong. And he's been doing it for over 20 years. In fact, I challenge anyone to find me someone who spent 45 minutes freestyling about 100 rappers and their role in hip-hop history, while pointing to his own "hip hop constitution" as a playbook/guide for his freestyle. I was about 10 feet away from him while he did this, and to top it off it was at 2 AM in the morning. That moment alone made this decision a no-brainer.

3.) Dead Prez

As far as modern rappers go, no one has the balls to say the stuff they say (you need to hear them before you make any judgments) and no one has the independent credibility to make it legit. They don't have any allegiance to any label or anyone in the industry for that matter. Their interest is black power, even at the expense of whitey.

4.) Public Enemy

The original version of Dead Prez. Chuck D is a hip hop legend, and he basically laid the groundwork for DP to make it big.

5.) NWA

The fact that they were the first rap group to get Congress and social watch groups pissed speaks for itself. I miss these guys so much. RIP Eazy.

6.) Immortal Technique

I've heard about half of one or two songs, and while I like what this guy is supposedly about; I really feel like he's getting way too much hype, especially from young desi Muslims. I'm not sure what it's about, but I've read some lyrics and it's some powerful stuff.

7.) Scarface

Early on I think you could group Scarface with that whole NWA/Public Enemy/Angry rap movement, but if you listen to the stuff he's been putting out lately (like since 02/03) you won't find a better, more reflective, more thoughtful take on the street life that still manages to come across as genuine and keeps it real.

8.) Brother Ali

I'd say he's the best rapper in the game right NOW. Sure, KRS-One is still around; Rakim is still around; but when was the last time they put out anything of any significance? Something that mattered and was relevant? Not for a long time. He owns the throne, and the media wasted its time on Eminem for years as the "big white rapper" when they should have turned attention to this Muslim.

9.) Common

Even though his last two albums are nowhere near Resurrection, it still amazes me how he can be with a major level, and have such a mainstream sellout such as Kanye all over his stuff, and still manage to spit on issues that matter in our world today.

10.) Nas

Initially he made it big with his wordplay and lyrics and street poet image. Then he fell off. The reason he made it back was because he decided to try a different approach (which was what he had been honing during his fall from grace, see the Lost Tapes)--talk about socially relevant issues; be the "conscience of hip-hop." And so that's why now you see him getting so much attention for his album title "N****" and how many rappers got insecure with his last one "Hip Hop Is Dead." When you rile up so many people, you are definitely socially relevant. Even if he's not perfect at it.

Lyrical Ability/Wordplay

For this one I'll quote a lyric or two.

1.) Rakim

"for those that envy a MC it can be,
hazardous to your health so be friendly,
a matter of life and death, just like a ethch-a-sketch,
shake 'till your clear, make it disappear, make the next,
after the ceremony, let the rhyme rest in peace,
if not, my soul'll release!
the scene is recreated, reincarnated, updated, I'm glad you made it,
cuz your about to see a disasterous sight,
a performance never again performed on a mic:
Lyrics of fury!"

there are no more words after that

2.) Big L

Yo ever since I was young, I ripped mics and I killed beats
And I'm known to milk freaks and hit em on silk sheets
No dame can give me a bad name, I got mad fame
I'm quick to put a slug in a fag brain
I be placin snitches inside lakes and ditches
And if I catch AIDS, then I'ma start rapin bitches
I'm all about makin papes kid
I killed my mother with a shovel just like Norman Bates did
My old man in the past, stuck me up without a mask
Then his ass cold dashed with my cash fast
Fifty G's is what the creep stole; so the next day
knocked on his door and shot his granny through the peephole
That's the type of shit I'm on, word is bond
Got it goin on, from the break of dawns to the early morn'
You know my style I'm wild, comin straight out of Harlem pal
It's Big L, the motherfuckin Problem Child

RIP.

3.) GZA

Fake *****z get blitzed
and mic bites I swing swords and cut clowns
Shit is too swift to bite you record and write it down
I flow like the blood on a murder scene, like a syringe
on some loud howl shit, to insert a fiend
But it was yo ock, the shop stolen heart
Catch a swollen heart from not rollin smart
I put mad pressure, on phony wack rhymes that get hurt
Shit's played, like zodiac signs on sweatshirt
That's minimum, and feminine like sandals
My minimum table stacks a verse on a gamble
Energy is felt once the cards are dealt
With the impact of roundhouse kicks from black belts
that attack, the mic-fones like cyclones or typhoon
I represent from midnight to high noon
I don't waste ink, ***** I think
I drop megaton BOMBS more faster than you blink
Cause rhyme thoughts travel at a tremendous speed
Clouds of smoke, of natural blends of weed
Only under one circumstance is if I'm blunted
Turn that shit up, my clan in da front want it

4.) Canibus

Alone in my room, looking thru the 32X telescope zoom
adjusting the focus of the moon
One should not assume the philosophy of David Hume
is nothing more then a subjective conclusion
What is the maximum field rate application?
the run away glaciation surrounding the ocean basin
affects the population fluctuation
on a continuous basis but that's just the basics
The juxtaposition of Canibus' position
the precision something no other has written
Way above and beyond what was intended
the unparalleled malleable enunciation of a sentence
You didnt go to college obviously
I can tell by your ungodly unintelligible terminology
A remarkable odyssey, the rhymes of modern speeds
when the brain orders the body not to breathe
Your competency is not up to speed, you not in my league
you couldnt possibly be hotter than me
Or oppositely you're minus 25 degrees, you'd squeeze
but the condensation makes rifle barrels freeze
Allow me to speak figuratively, ***** please
my intellectual properties are about the size of Greece
Your counselor advised you not to speak
my counselor advised me to keep rhymin until they stopped the beat
In the words of Joseph Heller, "I learned how to write better"
even though it sort of irked me
He said he didnt understand the process of the imagination
but he felt he was at its mercy
Which exploits my point perfectly and certainly reinforces
the reason why nobody's probably ever heard of me
Couldnt understand what I mean by ill
unless you try to translate what I print to film
This is the line of will, the circle of time
the cycle of eternity, the emergence of 1 mind
Academic phonetics render critics tounge-tied
Ive personified dry humor of cum-laude alumni
A wise man sees failure as progress
a fool divorces his knowledge and misses the logic
And loses his soul in the process
obsessed with nonsense with a caricature that has no content
My style is masterful, multi-lateral
I could battle a fool and be naturally cruel
Words of scourn are a disasterous tool
from an existentialist view, I'm a better rapper then you
Grab the mic and rip your physical fabric in 2
my attitude is fucked up but admirable
Different methods interpreted into different forms
from entirely different perceptions and seen from different norms
Not just spittin a poem there's much more involved
there's much more pieces of the puzzle for you to solve
48 orders of mechanical laws
and rays of creational cause, enhance the cadence of my bars
Maybe I am self-absorbed
but thats the effect, to find the cause you should ask my A&R
Today is what it is, but only because yesterday was what it was
permitting you heard of Beelzebub
A tale of demons and drugs, pissy drunk in the club
with the DJ doing the needle rub
Chances are you'll never see me son
yeah I know my names Canibus but I cant help you if you need a dub

5.) Nas

This rhythmatic explosion, is what your frame of mind has chosen
I'll leave your brain stimulated, *****z is frozen
Speak with criminal slang, begin like a violin
End like Leviathan, it's deep well let me try again
Wisdom be leakin out my grapefruit troop
I dominate break loops, givin mics men-e-straul cycles
Street's disciple, I rock beats that's mega trifle
And groovy but smoother than moves by Villanova
You're still a soldier, I'm like Sly Stone in Cobra
Packin like a rasta in the weed spot
Vocals'll squeeze glocks, MC's eavesdrop
Though they need not to sneak
My poetry's deep, I never fell
Nas's raps should be locked in a cell
It ain't hard to tell

6.) Notorious B.I.G.

My man Inf left a Tec and a nine at my crib
Turned himself in, he had to do a bid
A one-to-three, he be home the end of '93
I'm ready to get this paper, G, you with me?

Motherfucking right, my pocket's looking kind of tight
and I'm stressed, yo Biggie let me get the vest

No need for that, just grab the fucking gat
The first pocket that's fat the Tec is to his back
Word is bond, I'm a smoke him yo don't fake no moves (what?)
Treat it like boxing: stick and move, stick and move

*****, you ain't got to explain shit
I've been robbin motherfuckers since the slave ships
with the same clip and the same four-five
Two point-blank, a motherfucker's sure to die
That's my word, ***** even try to bogart
have his mother singing "It's so hard..."

Yes, love love you're fucking attitude
because the ***** play pussy that's the ***** that's getting screwed
and bruised up from the pistol whipping
webs on the neck from the necklace stripping
Then I'm dipping up the block and I'm robbing bitches too
up the herring bones and bamboos
I wouldn't give fuck if you're pregnant
Give me the baby rings and a #1 MOM pendant

I'm slamming *****z like Shaquille, shit is real
When it's time to eat a meal I rob and steal
'cos Mom Duke ain't giving me shit
so for the bread and butter I leave *****z in the gutter
Huh, word to mother, I'm dangerous
Crazier than a bag of fucking Angel Dust
When I bust my gat motherfuckers take dirt naps
I'm all that and a dime sack, where the payback?

7.) Jay-Z

I'm makin short term goals,whonder whether foes
just put away the leathers and put ice on the gold
chilly with enough bail money to free a big willy
high stakes, i got more at stake than philly
shoppin sprees, copin three, duece fever i guess its fully loaded,
ah yes,
bouncin in the lex luger, tires smoke like buddha
50 g's to the crap shooter,
*****s can't fade me
chrome socks beamin, through my periphial i see ya schemin
stop dreamin',i leave ya body steamin
*****s is feenin, whats the meanin
i'm leanin on any ***** intervenin with the sound of my money machine-in
my cuff runnin over with hundreds
im one of the best *****s that done it
six digits and runnin,
y'all *****s don't want it
i got the godfather flow, the don juan demarco
swear to god, don't get it fucked up

8.) Big Pun

My crew puff lye, anyone test the Pun must die
Just give me one try -- 'Now you know you done fucked up right?'
Hah, you ain't got no wins in my casa
Que te pasa, you ain't even in my clasa
I hate a actor that plays a rapper
I'm Terror Squad beta kappa everybody's favorite rapper
Grand imperial college material insane criminal
The same ***** who known to blow out your brain mineral
I reign subliminal inside your visual
Try to supply your physical with my spiritual side of this lyrical
I'll appear in your dreams, like Freddie do, no kidding you
Even if I stuttered I would still sh-sh-sh-shit on you
Soon as I chitter chatter you shitter shatter, I'm the kid
out of Bronx, that'll stomp you to death like it didn't matter
I'm even better than before, iller metaphors
Killers bet it all on Pun, cause one verse, dead em all

9.) MC JUICE

Dear Battles
I know you're going to miss me
Not many have been able to diss me
Through my history
From just Juice to J.U.I.C.E, shit
Conglom local shit with a G-flow, peep it
Just give me a record deal, and I might just sneak in
A few flows, motherfucker: who knows
And we will be reunited; it will feel so great

10.) Raekwon


Started off on the island, AK Shaolin
*****z whylin, gun shots thrown the phone dialin
Back in the days of eight now, makin a tape now
Rae gotta get a plate now
Ignorant and mad young, wanted to be the one
Till I got (BAM! BAM!) thrown one
Yeah, my pops was a fiend since sixteen
Shootin' that (that's that shit!) in his blood stream
That's the life of a crimey, real live crimey
If *****s know the half is behind me
Day one, yo, growin all up in the ghetto
Now I'm a weed fiend, jettin the Palmetto
In Medina, yo no doubt the God got crazy clout
Pushin the big joint from down South
So if you're filthy stacked up
Betta watch ya back and duck
Cause these fiends they got it cracked up
Now my man from up north, now he got the law
It's solid as a rock and crazy salt
No jokes, I'm not playin, get his folks
Desert Eagle his dick and put 'em in a yolk (AAH!)
And to know for sure, I got reck and rip shop
I pointed a gat at his mother's knot
(Yo, Rae, don't do that shit, man! Don't do that shit! )
Fuck that

And finally, energy/emotion/power/delivery. I guess I could just list this.

1.) 2Pac
2.) KRS-One
3.) ODB
4.) Bizzy Bone
5.) DMX
6.) Sheek Louch
7.) M.O.P.
8.) Scarface
9.) Lauryn Hill
10.) Eminem

long post but i think most of you don't have any clue what you're talking about. i challenge any of you to justify your lists and defend them, as i did for mine.

nice, legit post.

[anorexorcist]

nice, legit post.

thanks. but you know whats funny...i've listened to maybe 5 raps songs over the past year. never has the scene disgusted me so much as it has right now.

so as a result i've gotten heavy into garage bands from the 60s, independent label punk, and modern day independent blues rock and acoustic non-emos. pretty crazy transition huh?

[disyaboi II]

thanks. but you know whats funny...i've listened to maybe 5 raps songs over the past year. never has the scene disgusted me so much as it has right now.

so as a result i've gotten heavy into garage bands from the 60s, independent label punk, and modern day independent blues rock and acoustic non-emos. pretty crazy transition huh?


you must stop asap. I feel you on that...but thats why I listen to only the good stuff...which pretty much eliminates anything on the radio.

cut out your new choice of music I'm worryin for u

[anorexorcist]

you must stop asap. I feel you on that...but thats why I listen to only the good stuff...which pretty much eliminates anything on the radio.

cut out your new choice of music I'm worryin for u

i actually said that to see what you would say, and your response doesn't surprise me. and that's one of the things that disgusts me about the scene. no one has any appreciation for any music outside of rap. people are so fucking closed minded. expand your damn horizons. i mean even 2Pac was collaborating with Alanis Morrisette before he died, and he empathized with Kurt Cobain when he was in jail. I mean for god's sake, he even sampled phil collins.

finally, at the end of the day, the message is the same, it's just expressed through different mediums, and if you can't find the commonalities in the message of the music then you're missing the point of the very music you think is "the good stuff." at the end of the day like minded people cant unite, and TOGETHER, think and act upon the messages expressed in the songs because of a genre difference?

[disyaboi II]

i actually said that to see what you would say, and your response doesn't surprise me. and that's one of the things that disgusts me about the scene. no one has any appreciation for any music outside of rap. people are so fucking closed minded. expand your damn horizons. i mean even 2Pac was collaborating with Alanis Morrisette before he died, and he empathized with Kurt Cobain when he was in jail. I mean for god's sake, he even sampled phil collins.

finally, at the end of the day, the message is the same, it's just expressed through different mediums, and if you can't find the commonalities in the message of the music then you're missing the point of the very music you think is "the good stuff." at the end of the day like minded people cant unite, and TOGETHER, think and act upon the messages expressed in the songs because of a genre difference?

believe me, I've heard it all.

[disyaboi II]

talkin to a guy that still listens to deftones, staind, incubus, godsmack, tool, korn


and all the rap above...

my horizons have been expanded

[chicago85thst]

i actually said that to see what you would say, and your response doesn't surprise me. and that's one of the things that disgusts me about the scene. no one has any appreciation for any music outside of rap. people are so fucking closed minded. expand your damn horizons. i mean even 2Pac was collaborating with Alanis Morrisette before he died, and he empathized with Kurt Cobain when he was in jail. I mean for god's sake, he even sampled phil collins.

finally, at the end of the day, the message is the same, it's just expressed through different mediums, and if you can't find the commonalities in the message of the music then you're missing the point of the very music you think is "the good stuff." at the end of the day like minded people cant unite, and TOGETHER, think and act upon the messages expressed in the songs because of a genre difference?


the only rap worth listening to is over 10 years old. im going to hurt myself next time i hear flo rider

[I Am McLovin]

anorexorcist, looking for a challenge?
if nwa as a group gets in, then run dmc has gotta be in dude!
its like that!

[PrOfFaSeE]

whole of wutang

[PrOfFaSeE]

ok maybe odb a lil bit more
oh baby i got your mo0o0o0neeeeeeey

[ghettosuppastar]

list em. here's mine

10. Eazy-E
9. Eminem
8. Talib Kweli
7. Ice Cube
6. Dr. Dre (deserves to be here even though he's a producer)
5. Rakim
4. Nas
3. Big L
2. Biggie
1. 2pac
1 > Biggie smalls 2 > Tupac 3 > Dre << For the record Not just a producer... Dre Has one of the best albums In hip hop history 'Need to mention 1992 The chronic and 9 other classics he has 4 > Eminem 5 > Nas 6 > Big Pun 7 > Jadakiss / Styles p 8 > Old school Mob Deep 9 > Old school Snoop 10 > I gotta give up the 10 to some of my Personal fav. in present Ghetto Fab < mixtapes / old albums im talkin Ghetto fabolous / Real Talk / Street dreams ,Bone thugz and harmony Scarface/Pimp C/Ugk click then i wanna mention B.G , Sheek louch and Game theres a few more here and there... Thats just my Opinion ...

[gnijor]

The Game used to put out some pretty good mixtapes, what happen to that dude?

[BdZ_SwEEtieZ]

Xn0ToSNYMkk&hl

HERE U GO..THANX ME LATER

[gnijor]

lololol, thanks, looking for a random place to put it.

[Midnight_Toker]

1 > Biggie smalls 2 > Tupac 3 > Dre << For the record Not just a producer... Dre Has one of the best albums In hip hop history 'Need to mention 1992 The chronic and 9 other classics he has 4 > Eminem 5 > Nas 6 > Big Pun 7 > Jadakiss / Styles p 8 > Old school Mob Deep 9 > Old school Snoop 10 > I gotta give up the 10 to some of my Personal fav. in present Ghetto Fab < mixtapes / old albums im talkin Ghetto fabolous / Real Talk / Street dreams ,Bone thugz and harmony Scarface/Pimp C/Ugk click then i wanna mention B.G , Sheek louch and Game theres a few more here and there... Thats just my Opinion ...

no shit sherlock, why else would i add him in the top 10 all time list? :no:

[Midnight_Toker]

First of all Eminem shouldn't even be in there...and second of all,Lil Wayne is the best rapper alive and all time,second to 2pac tho

kk money tre :neutral:

[ghettosuppastar]

no shit sherlock, why else would i add him in the top 10 all time list? :no:
ok dummie.. u mentioned him as a producer.. so just edited :no:

[ghettosuppastar]

The Game used to put out some pretty good mixtapes, what happen to that dude?
In jail :no:

[ghettosuppastar]

None of the members of Mobb Deep are in any of yours list?

Pre-G-Unit their music was the shit.
:werd: Shook ones/Quiet storm is still one of my Fav bangers The whole Murda musik Album was dope :yes:

[SnakE187EyeZ]

:werd: Shook ones is still one of my Fav bangers

The Infamous:

1994-1995 = Prodigy, Havoc, Q-Tip.

:cool:

[ghettosuppastar]

The Infamous:

1994-1995 = Prodigy, Havoc, Q-Tip.

:cool:
Yesssirr You talking Juvenille Hell , Infamous ..Hell on earth!! Amerikaz nightmare :Pelvic2: just gets better and better

[SnakE187EyeZ]

Yesssirr You talking Juvenille Hell , Infamous ..Hell on earth!! Amerikaz nightmare :Pelvic2: just gets better and better

Survival of the Fittest.

"You will soon be killed, put us together
It's like mixin vodka and milk
I'm goin out blastin, takin my enemies with me
and if not, they scarred, so they will never forget me
Lord forgive me the Hennessy got me not knowin how to act
I'm fallin and I can't turn back"

I love their trademark dark piano loops.

Quiet Storm, is one of my all time favorites. I can still remember the exact moment I first heard that track, it's one of them tracks that stick to you like cancer. Fucking awesome.

[kashmiri_ryder]

all the rappers on my list looks up to pac

1. 2pac for being everything
2. One Be Lo: real street knowledge///best underground rapper
3. Lil Wayne---best commercialized rapper///dropping riddles n shit
4. Immortal Technique: opened my eyez
5. Lupe Fiasco----one of the realest u cant call him hyprocite......
6. Napoleon from Outlawz: made my life humble.
7. twista----got the flows
8. t-pain----he makes the best chorus
9. nelly----country grammar had me remembering good times
10. Kashmiri Ryder-----watch me comming homie.....

[DasJa]

ok maybe odb a lil bit more
oh baby i got your mo0o0o0neeeeeeey
ODB was the craziest muh fugga out there when he was with Wu tang.

[Midnight_Toker]

ODB was the craziest muh fugga out there when he was with Wu tang.

:werd:

R.I.P.

[.BestKeptSecret.]

in any order:

2pac,
immortal technique,
joe budden,
gang starr,
lupe fiasco,
nas,
az,
beanie,
rakim,
biggie.

there's more that i :love:, but meh

[indian_hustla]

sean p(boot camp click)
camoflauge a.k.a gangis khan
chino xl
eminem
masta ace
prodigy
bushwick bill
cyserro
chamillionaire
biggie

[chicano_desi]

list em. here's mine

10. Eazy-E
9. Eminem
8. Talib Kweli
7. Ice Cube
6. Dr. Dre (deserves to be here even though he's a producer)
5. Rakim
4. Nas
3. Big L
2. Biggie
1. 2pac

eazy e and dr. dre were average rappers at best.
lmao at the bias. you have pure nwa there.
the list needs ghostface, redman, method man, and styles p.

[chicano_desi]

ODB was the craziest muh fugga out there when he was with Wu tang.
"You was the chess piece on the board that made us look true." - Raekwon

[chicano_desi]

all the rappers on my list looks up to pac

1. 2pac for being everything
2. One Be Lo: real street knowledge///best underground rapper
3. Lil Wayne---best commercialized rapper///dropping riddles n shit
4. Immortal Technique: opened my eyez
5. Lupe Fiasco----one of the realest u cant call him hyprocite......
6. Napoleon from Outlawz: made my life humble.
7. twista----got the flows
8. t-pain----he makes the best chorus
9. nelly----country grammar had me remembering good times
10. Kashmiri Ryder-----watch me comming homie.....

in the words of method man, what the blood clot?

[chicano_desi]

In jail :no:
the guy's an idiot.
he pulls out a gun on someone during a pick-up basketball game.
and even dumber than that, he had a gun on him when he went to pick up his kid from school.

[desi_playa]

every one who left biggie out should stab them selves.


1. biggie
2. biggie
3. notorious BIG
4. Biggie smalls
5. Christopher Wallace
6. 2 pac
7. Nas
8. emenim
9. crazy bone
10. ice cube

[chicano_desi]

You guys are ranking Tupac a little too high. I rank rappers like Nas and Rakim higher than Tupac.
same with me.
it's just his feud and assassination is what made him immortal in the eyes of people.
there were a whole lot of better albums then all eyez on me.

[_true_definition]

1.2pac

2.nas

3. immortal technique

4. dead prez

5. chuck d

6. public enemy

7. saigon

8. outlawz

9. lupe fiasco

10.ll cool j

[chicano_desi]

1. soulja boy
2. nelly
3. shop boyz
4. vanilla ice
5. da brat
6. ja rule
7. J-kwon
8. bow wow
9. P diddy
10. Chamillionaire

:ugh:
what?
no hurricane chris!!!
walk into incoming traffic now.

[chicano_desi]

whole of wutang
minus u-god.

[chicano_desi]

here's my list.
i don't have a top ten cause i'll leave off a lot of other rappers i like listening too.

in no order.

ghostface killah - most consistent
scarface - the best from the south
andre 3000 - one of the best when it comes to flow and lyrics
raekwon - had one of the greatest albums ever
method man - charismatic with great lyrics
redman - see method man
saigon - glad he chose not to retire. had some powerful songs.
prodigy - before signing with g-unit he was one of the illest
nas - even if he relies on controversial album titles, he still is one of the best lyricist.
az - very underrated rapper. has a unique flow.
bun b - one half of ugk. one of the few talented from the south.
gza - listen to liquid swords and you'll see why he is amazing.
krayzie bone - very talented. can become spiritual or talk about the streets.
mos def - even if he puts more focus on acting, he still a dope mc.
cappadonna - very underrated. had arguably the best albums as a wu affiliate.
tupac - he may be overrated but he still held it down. was able to captivate the minds of many.
killah priest - one of the best storytelling rappers thats amazing with his religious metaphors.
lupe fiasco - is all ready declaring his upcoming his final. has a lot of promise to become one of the greatest.
Ice Cube - the best rapper in NWA. he followed it up with his album Amerikkka.
Immortal Technique - Very raw.
Eminem - was not afraid to push boundaries.
Royce the 59 - one of the best freestyle rappers.
Big L - best rapper when it came to punchlines.
Common - there's a reason why i used to lover her was one of the best rap songs ever.


there's a lot of others i don't feel like naming.

[kashmiri_ryder]

here's my list.
i don't have a top ten cause i'll leave off a lot of other rappers i like listening too.

in no order.

ghostface killah - most consistent
scarface - the best from the south
andre 3000 - one of the best when it comes to flow and lyrics
raekwon - had one of the greatest albums ever
method man - charismatic with great lyrics
redman - see method man
saigon - glad he chose not to retire. had some powerful songs.
prodigy - before signing with g-unit he was one of the illest
nas - even if he relies on controversial album titles, he still is one of the best lyricist.
az - very underrated rapper. has a unique flow.
bun b - one half of ugk. one of the few talented from the south.
gza - listen to liquid swords and you'll see why he is amazing.
krayzie bone - very talented. can become spiritual or talk about the streets.
mos def - even if he puts more focus on acting, he still a dope mc.
cappadonna - very underrated. had arguably the best albums as a wu affiliate.
tupac - he may be overrated but he still held it down. was able to captivate the minds of many.
killah priest - one of the best storytelling rappers thats amazing with his religious metaphors.
lupe fiasco - is all ready declaring his upcoming his final. has a lot of promise to become one of the greatest.
Ice Cube - the best rapper in NWA. he followed it up with his album Amerikkka.
Immortal Technique - Very raw.
Eminem - was not afraid to push boundaries.
Royce the 59 - one of the best freestyle rappers.
Big L - best rapper when it came to punchlines.
Common - there's a reason why i used to lover her was one of the best rap songs ever.


there's a lot of others i don't feel like naming.i like ur list....u know what ur talkin bout.......but i dont listen to some of em because they go deeper then a mutha fucka......and its where ur mind be at i guess...n yea lil wayne is the shit........u gots to know bout southern life to listen to it

[kashmiri_ryder]

every one who left biggie out should stab them selves.


1. biggie
2. biggie
3. notorious BIG
4. Biggie smalls
5. Christopher Wallace
6. 2 pac
7. Nas
8. emenim
9. crazy bone
10. ice cubebiggie aint all that....he is just aight....

[chicano_desi]

ur list sux dick............
says the guy who has lil wayne, t-pain, and nelly on his list.

[desi_playa]

ur list sux dick............


didn't i tell u not to talk to me. :ugh:
how come you are always talking about dick every time u talk to me?? :ugh:

[kashmiri_ryder]

says the guy who has lil wayne, t-pain, and nelly on his list.u know u listen to it.....

[chicano_desi]

i like ur list....u know what ur talkin bout.......but i dont listen to some of em because they go deeper then a mutha fucka......and its where ur mind be at i guess...n yea lil wayne is the shit........u gots to know bout southern life to listen to it
lil wayne is completely garbage.
the fact that he has all these dick riders is just ridiculous.
majority of his lyrics are just "insert noun" like a "insert metaphor"
and most off them don't even make any sense - ex "Blue seats white paint, wetter than new rain"

Wetter than new rain? All rain is wet, this line makes no fucking sense.
all what lil wayne did was make these half ass attempts on some crappy production and declared himself the best rapper alive when jay-z retired. have you even heard lil wayne try to rap on a beat from an actual rap producer. he sounds like shit. he can't rap on a DJ Premier, 9th Wonder, Pete Rock, RZA, or J Dilla beat. Lil' Wayne is a trend-riding bitch without an ounce of talent.

but anyways, lil wayne will alway be the best at pleasing his "daddy"
http://wmdeez.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/lil-wayne-kissing-baby.jpg

[kashmiri_ryder]

didn't i tell u not to talk to me. :ugh:
how come you are always talking about dick every time u talk to me?? :ugh:
Pretty fast to catch on my shit

I bet u waz clickin refresh

Cuz u saw my name bitch….

[desi_playa]

Pretty fast to catch on my shit

I bet u waz clickin refresh

Cuz u saw my name bitch….




LOL, yeh cause you are such an E-gangsta right as your name pops up everyone starts clicking refresh.

[kashmiri_ryder]

lil wayne is completely garbage.
the fact that he has all these dick riders is just ridiculous.
majority of his lyrics are just "insert noun like a insert metaphor"
and most off them don't even make any sense - ex "Blue seats white paint, wetter than new rain"

Wetter than new rain? All rain is wet, this line makes no fucking sense.
all what lil wayne did was make these half ass attempts on some crappy production and declared himself the best rapper alive when jay-z retired. have you even heard lil wayne try to rap on a beat from an actual rap producer. he sounds like shit. he can't rap on a DJ Premier, 9th Wonder, Pete Rock, RZA, or J Dilla beat. Lil' Wayne is a trend-riding bitch without an ounce of talent.

but anyways, lil wayne will alway be the best at pleasing his "daddy"
yea thats the whole point...........he drop ridddless...u gotta catch on fast to it....n put it on ur words......n second bold i would say....u gots to know bout south to know bout him.........n look i know when lil wayne took this pic he knew that shit is gonna hit the public....so know this he aint gay n all......yea that shit is gross.............but fuck i dont look up to him.........i listen to his music n categorize in my situation......man theres like no point of arguin on this shit....ur never gonna understand.....and i am not gonna understand what u gonna say........n bout time for me to hit the bed..............

[kashmiri_ryder]

LOL, yeh cause you are such an E-gangsta right as your name pops up everyone starts clicking refresh.if u say so atleast i am something......btw i change my shit in a sec

[SpicyBrownRapper]

blackstar!
public enemy!

Blackstar is Mos Def and Talib.

But I'd put Chuck D in my top 10 though.

[.BestKeptSecret.]

lol @ wayne in anyones list.

:no:

[KHAL5A]

http://www.hhzone.pl/recenzje1/79-cd1-big.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/36/Mic_Club_The_Curriculum_cover.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6b/NasIllmatic.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/27/Common_-_Resurrection.jpghttp://www.dmx-here-we-go-again.com/photos/DMX_3.jpghttp://www.3rdeyeopen.org/thought/uploaded_images/10yearanniversary-703805.jpg http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002JN4.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpghttp://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/12.05.96/gifs/ice-t-9649.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e2/GZALiquidSwords.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/10/Quik_Is_the_Name.jpg

[phishuff]

my personal favorites:

1. Eminem
2. 50 Cent
3. D12
4. 2pac
5. Ol' Dirty Bastard
6. DMX
7. Notorious B.I.G.
8. Nas
9. Jay-Z
10. Atmosphere

[Money Tre]

Wow no one said Lil wayne... :shock:

[BilalisPakistani]

I like Lil wayne but he's not even top 20 of ALL TIME.

And Lupe Fiasco one of the 10 greatest ever?

Come on Kids.

[imsocrazii]

list em. here's mine

10. Eazy-E
9. Eminem
8. Talib Kweli
7. Ice Cube
6. Dr. Dre (deserves to be here even though he's a producer)
5. Rakim
4. Nas
3. Big L
2. Biggie
1. 2pac
will smith.

ha.

[Money Tre]

I like Lil wayne but he's not even top 20 of ALL TIME.

And Lupe Fiasco one of the 10 greatest ever?

Come on Kids.



he aint even top 20?? sayz who???

[I Am McLovin]

it sounds like lil wayne has a penis in his mouth when he talks

[BilalisPakistani]

he aint even top 20?? sayz who???
Says me, were talking about all time man.

Juvenile > Lil wayne.

[BilalisPakistani]

I like Lil Wayne. He's been putting in work forever.

Lyrically he's not much tho.

[Money Tre]

it sounds like lil wayne has a penis in his mouth when he talks



Lol hahahah i know...he sounds funny somtimes :rofl:

[kashmiri_ryder]

I like Lil wayne but he's not even top 20 of ALL TIME.

And Lupe Fiasco one of the 10 greatest ever?

Come on Kids.damn i hate gettin in argument bout rappers.....but ur so wrong bout what u said???..........

[BilalisPakistani]

damn i hate gettin in argument bout rappers.....but ur so wrong bout what u said???..........
About Lupe Fiasco?

Youre saying he is one of the 10 greatest rappers of all time??

[Midnight_Toker]

About Lupe Fiasco?

Youre saying he is one of the 10 greatest rappers of all time??

:werd:

lupe fiasco is top 10 current rappers. i'd probably rank him 2nd to kanye or maybe even ahead of him at 1st i'm not sure. he is new to the game he needs time before being even having a chance to be considered in such a list "top 10 rappers OF ALL TIME"

[kashmiri_ryder]

About Lupe Fiasco?

Youre saying he is one of the 10 greatest rappers of all time??lupe is top 10 on my list....but u know lil wayne he was on bet n mtv was quoted best rapper alive....i donno if u watch that show???.....even so i still think hes best......

[kashmiri_ryder]

:werd:

lupe fiasco is top 10 current rappers. i'd probably rank him 2nd to kanye or maybe even ahead of him at 1st i'm not sure. he is new to the game he needs time before being even having a chance to be considered in such a list "top 10 rappers OF ALL TIME"aww shit i forgot bout kanye west....he was suppose to be on my list.....

[BilalisPakistani]

:werd:

lupe fiasco is top 10 current rappers. i'd probably rank him 2nd to kanye or maybe even ahead of him at 1st i'm not sure. he is new to the game he needs time before being even having a chance to be considered in such a list "top 10 rappers OF ALL TIME"
Seriously.

Let him drop albums for about five more years and then he can be considered.

[Money Tre]

lupe is top 10 on my list....but u know lil wayne he was on bet n mtv was quoted best rapper alive....i donno if u watch that show???.....even so i still think hes best......



:werd: thats what im sayin

[kashmiri_ryder]

u know what in a lil bit imma post his new mixtape angel of death 2 on rd for folks to check it out...........

[kashmiri_ryder]

:werd: thats what im sayinyah man go on top n read what the other fool said bout wayne??? i was like wtf is this fool trippen.....

[BilalisPakistani]

lupe is top 10 on my list....but u know lil wayne he was on bet n mtv was quoted best rapper alive....i donno if u watch that show???.....even so i still think hes best......
Nah I havent seen that show. I know he has that song where he calls himself the best rapper alive. But no way. And im a Lil Wayne fan. Back since the Hot Boys, but I dont think he's top 10.

Plus gillie embarrassed him.

[BilalisPakistani]

Okay guys. Take this list and tell me who Lil Wayne is better than.


1. 2pac
2. Biggie
3. Nas
4. Eminem
5. Krayzie Bone
6. Snoop (Before 1999)
7. Scarface
8. KRS One
9. Ice Cube
10. Fat Pat

[Midnight_Toker]

Money Tre, I would love to see your top 10 list

[kashmiri_ryder]

Nah I havent seen that show. I know he has that song where he calls himself the best rapper alive. But no way. And im a Lil Wayne fan. Back since the Hot Boys, but I dont think he's top 10.

Plus gillie embarrassed him.that boi so badd lil wayne had to diss his ass on problem solver.....

[BilalisPakistani]

Money Tre, I would love to see your top 10 list
Soulja boy, Rick Ross, Lil wayne, Shop Boys.. lol

[chicano_desi]

it sounds like lil wayne has a penis in his mouth when he talks
he luvs birdman's dick.

[Money Tre]

Okay guys. Take this list and tell me who Lil Wayne is better than.


1. 2pac
2. Biggie
3. Nas
4. Eminem
5. Krayzie Bone
6. Snoop (Before 1999)
7. Scarface
8. KRS One
9. Ice Cube
10. Fat Pat



I think lil wayne is better then Eminem

[Midnight_Toker]

Okay guys. Take this list and tell me who Lil Wayne is better than.


1. 2pac
2. Biggie
3. Nas
4. Eminem
5. Krayzie Bone
6. Snoop (Before 1999)
7. Scarface
8. KRS One
9. Ice Cube
10. Fat Pat

according to money tre, lil wayne is better than everyone on that list besides 2pac.

[BilalisPakistani]

I think lil wayne is better then Eminem
:no:

[Money Tre]

Soulja boy, Rick Ross, Lil wayne, Shop Boys.. lol

i dunno about rick ross and shop boyz lol

[Midnight_Toker]

Soulja boy, Rick Ross, Lil wayne, Shop Boys.. lol

:lol:

[Money Tre]

according to money tre, lil wayne is better than everyone on that list besides 2pac.


yea...but not ice cube and snoop dogg and biggie i guess their legends

[kashmiri_ryder]

Okay guys. Take this list and tell me who Lil Wayne is better than.


1. 2pac
2. Biggie
3. Nas
4. Eminem
5. Krayzie Bone
6. Snoop (Before 1999)
7. Scarface
8. KRS One
9. Ice Cube
10. Fat Patit all depends how u lookin at it.......like krs one he got whole different style with that underground shit.......but ok illl compare to all............krayzine bone, scarface

[chicano_desi]

Okay guys. Take this list and tell me who Lil Wayne is better than.


1. 2pac
2. Biggie
3. Nas
4. Eminem
5. Krayzie Bone
6. Snoop (Before 1999)
7. Scarface
8. KRS One
9. Ice Cube
10. Fat Pat

i never got tired of this video.
lVFI8_QvJ6A
lol at how he got bottled.

[kashmiri_ryder]

but then ur like wtf........only two why is he best.....cuzz whats goin on right now is what lil wayne is droppin......n all those rappers they aint there no more........

[.BestKeptSecret.]

I think lil wayne is better then Eminem


please shoot yourself.

[chicano_desi]

but then ur like wtf........only two why is he best.....cuzz whats goin on right now is what lil wayne is droppin......n all those rappers they aint there no more........
so basically, what you're saying is you only listen to rappers who only make money.

don't tell me, your room has a scarface (tony montana) poster in it.

[Money Tre]

please shoot yourself.


lol its i think its true....u shouldd listen to lil wayne :D

[BilalisPakistani]

but then ur like wtf........only two why is he best.....cuzz whats goin on right now is what lil wayne is droppin......n all those rappers they aint there no more........
Its not about whose out right now, its ALL Time.

[kashmiri_ryder]

so basically, what you're saying is you only listen to rappers who only make money.

don't tell me, your room has a scarface (tony montana) poster in it.shit i wish i had that poster...........

[BilalisPakistani]

DMX > Lil Wayne.

[chicano_desi]

have any of you actually heard lil wayne on an actual rap beat.
he sucks.
lInOCluqse0
he can't rap on the rugged rap beats.
just his fruity loop beats.

[.BestKeptSecret.]

lol its i think its true....u shouldd listen to lil wayne :D

i'd rather listen to little brats in the super-market crying for a sweet.

wayne is wack. point blank.
the guys rhymes are along the lines of "i'll rub the chick like i rub shampoo in my hair", and majority of his songs are cloned. he's not original.

just because you sell a million albums, it doesn't mean that your "good", just means that a million+ people are as stupid as fuck.

[chicano_desi]

i'd rather listen to little brats in the super-market crying for a sweet.

wayne is wack. point blank.
the guys rhymes are along the lines of "i'll rub the chick like i rub shampoo in my hair", and majority of his songs are cloned. he's not original.

just because you sell a million albums, it doesn't mean that your "good", just means that a million+ people are as stupid as fuck.
QFT

[Money Tre]

i'd rather listen to little brats in the super-market crying for a sweet.

wayne is wack. point blank.
the guys rhymes are along the lines of "i'll rub the chick like i rub shampoo in my hair", and majority of his songs are cloned. he's not original.

just because you sell a million albums, it doesn't mean that your "good", just means that a million+ people are as stupid as fuck.



Lol ur sayin a million ppl are stupid,and ur right?

[kashmiri_ryder]

Its not about whose out right now, its ALL Time.aight then pac over all.......but u know i put that shit to pause for a while........

[chicano_desi]

Lol ur sayin a million ppl are stupid,and ur right?
i do agree with her basis on lil wayne's ability.
most of his verses are just recycled.

[.BestKeptSecret.]

Lol ur sayin a million ppl are stupid,and ur right?


yes.

[I Am McLovin]

i'd rather listen to little brats in the super-market crying for a sweet.

wayne is wack. point blank.
the guys rhymes are along the lines of "i'll rub the chick like i rub shampoo in my hair", and majority of his songs are cloned. he's not original.

just because you sell a million albums, it doesn't mean that your "good", just means that a million+ people are as stupid as fuck.:rofl:

[.BestKeptSecret.]

QFT

thank-you ;)

[phishuff]

thats what immortal techinque said

[.BestKeptSecret.]

thats what immortal techinque said

love the guy.
literally.

[chicano_desi]

:rofl:
if you think that's bad.
you haven't heard this.
Candy paint T im ridin the peppermint
even my leather got my leather
trim im rollin up the element
i shutin em in the trunk like a elephant
bet u remember it like elephant

wtf does that even mean.

[.BestKeptSecret.]

if you think that's bad.
you haven't heard this.
Candy paint T im ridin the peppermint
even my leather got my leather
trim im rollin up the element
i shutin em in the trunk like a elephant
bet u remember it like elephant

wtf does that even mean.


that means:
"i am shit, but you dumb broads keep me in business,
so carry on listening to my shitty music.
thank-you, come again"

[Money Tre]

yes.


no comments

[.BestKeptSecret.]

no comments


:rofl:
i thought as much.

[kashmiri_ryder]

if you think that's bad.
you haven't heard this.
Candy paint T im ridin the peppermint
even my leather got my leather
trim im rollin up the element
i shutin em in the trunk like a elephant
bet u remember it like elephant

wtf does that even mean.but see why u hatin on it when u listenin to that shit......i know u be bumpin that chris brown with ur gurl n shit....

[Money Tre]

Some one should make a thread, top 10 desi artist of all time

[SeiQuattroDue]

This will always be debatable dependent on personal preference and reasoning.

I prefer witty, quick-fire multi-syllable lyricism that makes you reload a song over gritty tales of life and blah. That is just me, mind you.

You know how to tell a real hip-hop head for someone who is modeltastic - i.e. tries to live the lives of the rappers he likes? An intense dislike for Chino XL and or Canibus.

Honestly. Please. Anyone who takes the core elements of what makes a lyricist great will show XL outscoring PAC on any and all fronts bar influence.

Hip-hop will never have a profound influence on my life - other than listening and jumping like a joker-jack when I hear a great rhyme I will never be a part of "hip-hop culture".

The trick to finding your own personal top ten, is to find what YOU like in an artist. Not lives, not their fucking mack game or how much money they earn - that will never ASSIST you. Just listen, and give props where they seem due.

[.BestKeptSecret.]

but see why u hatin on it when u listenin to that shit......i know u be bumpin that chris brown with ur gurl n shit....


:rofl::rofl: @ chris brown.
he isn't hip-hop, he's rnb.
totally a different genre.

[phishuff]

I'm so bright not shady/My teeth and my eyes so white like Shady/Ice in my teeth so refrigerated/I'm so fucking good like I'm sleeping with Megan/I'm all about my Franklins, Lincolns, and Reagans/Whenever they make them, I shall hate them/Oops I meant have them, I'm so crazy/But if you get crazy you be sleeping with daisies/It's such a hay-bit, oops I meant habit/And my drink's still pinker than the Easter Rabbit/And I'm still 'Cole' like Keisha's family/Stove on my waist turn beef to patties/And I ate it cause I'm so at it/I don't front and I don't go backwards/And I don't practice/And I don't lack shit/And you can get Barried/Suck my back, bitch!

* "Barry Bonds" - Kanye West

[.BestKeptSecret.]

Some one should make a thread, top 10 desi artist of all time


Gurdas Maan > all

:lol:

[chicano_desi]

but see why u hatin on it when u listenin to that shit......i know u be bumpin that chris brown with ur gurl n shit....
uh, no.
but you happily admitted you listen to t-pain.
at least listen to someone who doesn't use a device to modify his shitty vocal skills.

[kashmiri_ryder]

Some one should make a thread, top 10 desi artist of all timethey dont even show their faces cuzz they r so ugly instead they put some models in music videos ....i mean not ugly they r just too old....

[SeiQuattroDue]

"They brang 'Dro, Khanartists and whack po with no flo true
Big Deech fucking Leeches, he beat Emon n Crew too
I'll run through YOU"

[kashmiri_ryder]

uh, no.
but you happily admitted you listen to t-pain.
at least listen to someone who doesn't use a device to modify his shitty vocal skills.shit i dont listen to that gay song the one u were spitten the lyricss off right now.........

[Midnight_Toker]

Lol ur sayin a million ppl are stupid,and ur right?

millions of white suburban kids that don't know good hip hop. so based on their hip hop knowledge, they are stupid

[BilalisPakistani]

Honestly. Please. Anyone who takes the core elements of what makes a lyricist great will show XL outscoring PAC on any and all fronts bar influence.

:ugh:

[phishuff]

"And I don't even gotta make no goddamn sense, I just did a whole song and I didn't say shit!"

[BilalisPakistani]

DMX > Lil Wayne.
Chamillionaire & Paul Wall > Lil wayne.

[Money Tre]

millions of white suburban kids that don't know good hip hop. so based on their hip hop knowledge, they are stupid


i didn't know white kids liked Lil wayne..

[chicano_desi]

shit i dont listen to that gay song the one u were spitten the lyricss off right now.........
i actually googled lil wayne wack lyrics and that's what i got.
but here you are happily defending someone with homosexual tendencies.
what's up with that?

[SeiQuattroDue]

:ugh:

C'mon now. Really.

How many Chino joints have you heard?

[I Am McLovin]

i didn't know white kids liked Lil wayne..http://www.cinematical.com/media/2006/04/b-rad.jpg

lil wayne's biggest fan

[Money Tre]

Gurdas Maan > all

:lol:


yea :werd:

[phishuff]

* I once contemplated suicide, and woulda tried/But when I held that 9, all I could see was my momma's eyes
* Where do *****z go when we die?/Ain't no heaven for a thug *****/That's why we go to thug mansion/That's the only place where thugs get in free and you gotta be a G
* Picture me inside the misery of poverty/No man alive has ever witnessed struggles I survived/Prayin hard for better days, promise to hold on/Me and my dawgs ain't have a choice but to roll on
* We found a family spot to kick it/Where we can drink liquor and no one bickers over trick shit/A spot where we can smoke in peace, and even though we G's/We still visualize places, that we can roll in peace/And in my mind's eye I see this place, the players go in fast/I got a spot for us all, so we can ball, at thug's mansion
* Nobody cares, seen the politicians ban us/They'd rather see us locked in chains, please explain/why they can't stand us, is there a way for me to change?/Or am I just a victim of things I did to maintain?/I need a place to rest my head/with the little bit of homeboys that remains, cause all the rest dead
* I need a house that's full of love when I need to escape/the deadly places slingin drugs, in thug's mansion
* Just think of all the people that you knew in the past/that passed on, they in heaven, found peace at last
* Picture a place that they exist, together/There has to be a place better than this, in heaven/So right before I sleep, dear God, what I'm askin/Remember this face, save me a place, in thug's mansion

—"Thugz Mansion"

[kashmiri_ryder]

Chamillionaire & Paul Wall > Lil wayne.i am up earling in the morning thinking bout gettin this paper... lord knows i gotta get this paper.....the hustlers told me that i gotta get it the best way i know how....... i wont let u down....thats the best chorus i herd from chamillioniare song.....

[chicano_desi]

C'mon now. Really.

How many Chino joints have you heard?
chino's alright.
but i think he went out of his way alleging tupac got raped in jail.

[BilalisPakistani]

C'mon now. Really.

How many Chino joints have you heard?
Ive heard em man. But he doesnt compare to Pac, come on now.

[BilalisPakistani]

i am up earling in the morning thinking bout gettin this paper... lord knows i gotta get this paper.....the hustlers told me that i gotta get it the best way i know how....... i wont let u down....thats the best chorus i herd from chamillioniare song.....
Check out mixtape Messiah and all the old shit he did with Paul Wall.

[Money Tre]

Ive heard em man. But he doesnt compare to Pac, come on now.


noone compares to pac..

[chicano_desi]

* I once contemplated suicide, and woulda tried/But when I held that 9, all I could see was my momma's eyes
* Where do *****z go when we die?/Ain't no heaven for a thug *****/That's why we go to thug mansion/That's the only place where thugs get in free and you gotta be a G
* Picture me inside the misery of poverty/No man alive has ever witnessed struggles I survived/Prayin hard for better days, promise to hold on/Me and my dawgs ain't have a choice but to roll on
* We found a family spot to kick it/Where we can drink liquor and no one bickers over trick shit/A spot where we can smoke in peace, and even though we G's/We still visualize places, that we can roll in peace/And in my mind's eye I see this place, the players go in fast/I got a spot for us all, so we can ball, at thug's mansion
* Nobody cares, seen the politicians ban us/They'd rather see us locked in chains, please explain/why they can't stand us, is there a way for me to change?/Or am I just a victim of things I did to maintain?/I need a place to rest my head/with the little bit of homeboys that remains, cause all the rest dead
* I need a house that's full of love when I need to escape/the deadly places slingin drugs, in thug's mansion
* Just think of all the people that you knew in the past/that passed on, they in heaven, found peace at last
* Picture a place that they exist, together/There has to be a place better than this, in heaven/So right before I sleep, dear God, what I'm askin/Remember this face, save me a place, in thug's mansion

—"Thugz Mansion"
edited.
didn't read the title of the song.
i thought you were still quoting weezy.

[kashmiri_ryder]

* I once contemplated suicide, and woulda tried/But when I held that 9, all I could see was my momma's eyes
* Where do *****z go when we die?/Ain't no heaven for a thug *****/That's why we go to thug mansion/That's the only place where thugs get in free and you gotta be a G
* Picture me inside the misery of poverty/No man alive has ever witnessed struggles I survived/Prayin hard for better days, promise to hold on/Me and my dawgs ain't have a choice but to roll on
* We found a family spot to kick it/Where we can drink liquor and no one bickers over trick shit/A spot where we can smoke in peace, and even though we G's/We still visualize places, that we can roll in peace/And in my mind's eye I see this place, the players go in fast/I got a spot for us all, so we can ball, at thug's mansion
* Nobody cares, seen the politicians ban us/They'd rather see us locked in chains, please explain/why they can't stand us, is there a way for me to change?/Or am I just a victim of things I did to maintain?/I need a place to rest my head/with the little bit of homeboys that remains, cause all the rest dead
* I need a house that's full of love when I need to escape/the deadly places slingin drugs, in thug's mansion
* Just think of all the people that you knew in the past/that passed on, they in heaven, found peace at last
* Picture a place that they exist, together/There has to be a place better than this, in heaven/So right before I sleep, dear God, what I'm askin/Remember this face, save me a place, in thug's mansion

—"Thugz Mansion"hate to say.....sound selfish n e gangster whatever.......but thats me

[SeiQuattroDue]

chino's alright.
but i think he went out of his way alleging tupac got raped in jail.

He didn't allege. It is HIS rhyme style.

The amount of names he drops in his songs is crazy, it is sort of his trademark. Every other bar has some punch line or another regarding something in pop-culture or tinsel town.

[chicano_desi]

noone compares to pac..
pac wasn't even the best rapper when he was alive.
yes he was talented but there were far more others who were ahead of him in skill. his beef with biggie and death is what made him immortal.

[kashmiri_ryder]

Check out mixtape Messiah and all the old shit he did with Paul Wall.i only listen to instrumental these dayz n just some songs.....i aint tryin to get more further deep onto rapper that i donno much bout

[Money Tre]

pac wasn't even the best rapper when he was alive.
yes he was talented but there were far more others who were ahead of him in skill. his beef with biggie and death is what made him immortal.


hell no...

[j_a_l]

* I once contemplated suicide, and woulda tried/But when I held that 9, all I could see was my momma's eyes
* Where do *****z go when we die?/Ain't no heaven for a thug *****/That's why we go to thug mansion/That's the only place where thugs get in free and you gotta be a G
* Picture me inside the misery of poverty/No man alive has ever witnessed struggles I survived/Prayin hard for better days, promise to hold on/Me and my dawgs ain't have a choice but to roll on
* We found a family spot to kick it/Where we can drink liquor and no one bickers over trick shit/A spot where we can smoke in peace, and even though we G's/We still visualize places, that we can roll in peace/And in my mind's eye I see this place, the players go in fast/I got a spot for us all, so we can ball, at thug's mansion
* Nobody cares, seen the politicians ban us/They'd rather see us locked in chains, please explain/why they can't stand us, is there a way for me to change?/Or am I just a victim of things I did to maintain?/I need a place to rest my head/with the little bit of homeboys that remains, cause all the rest dead
* I need a house that's full of love when I need to escape/the deadly places slingin drugs, in thug's mansion
* Just think of all the people that you knew in the past/that passed on, they in heaven, found peace at last
* Picture a place that they exist, together/There has to be a place better than this, in heaven/So right before I sleep, dear God, what I'm askin/Remember this face, save me a place, in thug's mansion

—"Thugz Mansion"

the most powerful thing any rapper ever said...all you guys can say who's the best but when it comes to tupac's flow...no one could ever do it better and no one ever will!!!

[BilalisPakistani]

Lol now yall are just being silly.

Pac - G.O.A.T.

You cant argue that.

He had the weakest group ever and pumped out straight hits. The Outlaws were trash.

[chicano_desi]

i only listen to instrumental these dayz n just some songs.....i aint tryin to get more further deep onto rapper that i donno much bout
do people from the south know anyone that's somewhat decent in hip hop?

[SeiQuattroDue]

Ive heard em man. But he doesnt compare to Pac, come on now.

Multiplicty, out huntin my clones
Rap's turnin out more sweet proteges than Quincy Jones
My style pendergrass shoes: never touched the ground
My IQ so high it ain't no number it's a sound
I'm Jim Brown in his day, toughest ***** to tackle
I'll leave your brains hangin out like Chris Rock's adam's apple
I'm so rare, battlin Chino's like Africa:
Yeah *****z talk about it but they don't really wanna go there
I'm hooked in leather, floored never
Create more tracks than Brandy and Monica's weaves put together
This to whoever if you rhyme like a daughter of mine
You sound like me so much I think my sperm's in your water supply
With a war to survive I slaughter and mortify
Creating a torture guy be forced and falsified
And duplicated and authorised
I autograph a girl's bra, menage-a-trois
I dont want no men in shit, let's have a women-age-a-trois
Chorus (w/ slight variations)
[Chino XL]
On everything that I love, I attack rap genres..
Fatter than Chaka Khan was
XL excederin verbal medicine sealed for tamperin
Consider me the Master P of God like Kirk Frank-lin
Shoot 'em shank 'em and burn they skin
Blast for laughs at Chino actions
Skill is a blessin you cowards could only imagine
You ain't an X-Man like comic books, you an ex-man like RuPaul
Run through y'all leave y'all stiffer than Ken dolls
You wanna start friction? Play Don and King and..
.. end up gettin fucked like Ving Rhames in Pulp Fiction
My rhymes hot they just might trigger the sprinkler system
Like freaks that Eddie Murphy, call witch you comin up missin
Now you gonna listen?! Or do I have to remind you?
I'll punch a hole through your chest
and give a pound to the man behind you
Killin you and the ***** that signed you like my Dad invented murder
I rhyme til it's a torture to me, exhaust like a catalytic converter
It's sad for me to admit I heard of, you, such a fake one
There's so many gay rappers
they probably diss me cause I'm the straight one
Plus chicks can't trick the light-skinned ***** with the long hair
With Nick Cage in an airplane these hoes couldn't +Con Air+
Chorus (w/ slight variations)
[Chino XL]
Yo, yo, you wanna raise up? Now that takes bravery
I house *****z like light-skinned-ed Africans durin slavery
I detonate crazily, a bomb, military can't disable me
So loose in the cypher I got Lucifer ashamed of me
Fuck who you proclaim to be, better reconsider
Turned on wrestlin and Goldberg was like Chino that's a big *****
I died a thousand deaths to possess skills such as this
With delivery like where Arabs live: in-tents/intense
Sliding in events riding inside of limos with tints
Been rhyming since Timberland trees were seeds; Burger King was Prince
Better run for the fence, click clack on all you rats
I shoot blindly like I'm Ray Charles with loaded gats
(Shit) The fact is, I'm one of them crazy half-black kids
Like Jesus in the army but I earn my stripes like zebras
Without the H.I.V. I'm positive you don't wanna test
I leave rappers confused like homeless cats on house arrest
Chorus til fade

[BilalisPakistani]

do people from the south know anyone that's somewhat decent in hip hop?
:jerkit:

[kashmiri_ryder]

Lol now yall are just being silly.

Pac - G.O.A.T.

You cant argue that.

He had the weakest group ever and pumped out straight hits. The Outlaws were trash.outlawz were trash except napoleon..............

[kashmiri_ryder]

do people from the south know anyone that's somewhat decent in hip hop?over here they like mostly trae and zero......n i dont really listen to that shit...........that will really screw n fuck up ur head.........

[BilalisPakistani]

I guess yall never heard of UGK.

[chicano_desi]

I guess yall never heard of UGK.
bun b and pimp c.
but come on.
go to some broad in ATL and say bun b and you'll get a WTF?
nowadays people are hooked on snap music.
to them the greatest rap group is dem franchize boyz.

[phishuff]

outlaws were good in the song "one day at a time" the whole song is good

[Money Tre]

bun b and pimp c.
but come on.
go to some broad in ATL and say bun b and you'll get a WTF?
nowadays people are hooked on snap music.
to them the greatest rap group is dem franchize boyz.


i bet they prally like soulja boy too

[BilalisPakistani]

bun b and pimp c.
but come on.
go to some broad in ATL and say bun b and you'll get a WTF?
nowadays people are hooked on snap music.
to them the greatest rap group is dem franchize boyz.
Yeah man. Rap these days is trash. No argument here.

Which is why I really dont even try to get into new artists. I just recently found out about Lupe Fiasco, he's alright.

[phishuff]

PiVS8smTcLQ

[SeiQuattroDue]

Top three RD lyricists

1) Centoundici642/SeiQuattroDue/Lucifer Fury/Funtime Franky
2) Emon_Crew
3) Hydro_786

[Midnight_Toker]

i bet they prally like soulja boy too

where do you rank soulja boy among the greatest rappers of all time? :neutral:

[phishuff]

4oVcEL-agZw

[kashmiri_ryder]

I guess yall never heard of UGK.herd of em alll....bun b ugk all that houston bs....

[phishuff]

Atmosphere - Scapegoat
Z4zvYLxZuf8

[Money Tre]

where do you rank soulja boy among the greatest rappers of all time? :neutral:


not in the top 10 not even in the top 15 i think...let his second album come the we'll c

[I Am McLovin]

is Wyclef Jean considered rap? he's good.

[phishuff]

Wyclef Jean is kinda of good music

[phishuff]

A-Jyat_CwcI :wavey:

[will rap 4 food]

EVERYBODYS TOP 10 WILL ALWAYS BE WRONG...its impossible to compare some emceees because there styles are just too different