Islam in Europe

[lankanbaby]

What do you all think of this video?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nI5WoXpmPiM

I agree with this guy one hundred percent.

[di vinci]

:rofl:

white people and their whinges

[di vinci]

funny the guys atheist. so he agaisnt the whole concept of religion. it men like him who have destroy the fabrics of a family, community, friendships. now a days its better to be a single mum then being a married women with kids. religion give man kind a bond, it help us to realised that we are not alone but we are surrounded by others. if you take religion out of the west we will literally have nothing left to cheerish hold sacred

[vsaigal]

religon is something of the past


:werd:

:no:

[vsaigal]

religon is something of the past


:werd:

:no:

[di vinci]

religon is something of the past


:werd:

:no:
this is why we got 15 year old kids in the uk going around attacking people for saying "stop wat are you lot doing"
that wat he wants fearless yobs patroling the streets

[vsaigal]

this is why we got 15 year old kids in the uk going around attacking people for saying "stop wat are you lot doing"
that wat he wants fearless yobs patroling the streets

:no:

they just built i new national mosque in malaysia, spent close to 50 million pound building it, marble from italy and shit.

and this is a country which still has poverty, racial tensions.

sometimes. i swear i feel like killing ppl. :no:




oh yah and the previous national mosque is only 5 years old. :no:

[di vinci]

:no:

they just built i new national mosque in malaysia, spent close to 50 million pound building it, marble from italy and shit.

and this is a country which still has poverty, racial tensions.

sometimes. i swear i feel like killing ppl. :no:




oh yah and the previous national mosque is only 5 years old. :no:the muslim population is growing they need to cater for their needs.

wats wrong with desi or china marble???

[vsaigal]

the muslim population is growing they need to cater for their needs.

wats wrong with desi or china marble???

lol lol lol

i dunno man, they spend money on unessecary things.


piss me off. and elections r soon. im not gonna vote.

[di vinci]

lol lol lol

i dunno man, they spend money on unessecary things.


piss me off. and elections r soon. im not gonna vote.
u from mal;aysia??

[PRCIV]

I want entire Europe to be under Shariah law by 2050.

[di vinci]

I want entire Europe to be under Shariah law by 2050.
i dont :arrow:

[PRCIV]

i dont :arrow:

Munafiq

[lankanbaby]

the muslim population is growing they need to cater for their needs.

wats wrong with desi or china marble???

fucking retard. My faith in muslims are dying more and more every day because of the retarded shit muslims like you say

[di vinci]

fucking retard. My faith in muslims are dying more and more every day because of the retarded shit muslims like you sayshut up. if you havnt got anything practical to say stfu

you tamil tigers are busy wiping each other out anyways. why would you care wat the muslim are doing. your doing a good job yourself

[lankanbaby]

shut up. if you havnt got anything practical to say stfu

you tamil tigers are busy wiping each other out anyways. why would you care wat the muslim are doing. your doing a good job yourself


lol something a dumbass muslim would say

Not all of us sri lankans are tamil you dumb fuck. In fact, most of the country is NON - TAMIL. HAHAHAHA

[di vinci]

lol something a dumbass muslim would say

Not all of us sri lankans are tamil you dumb fuck. In fact, most of the country is NON - TAMIL. HAHAHAHAyou fucking stupid shite bag. ur still busy killing yourselves arent you. oh wait. i forgot no one gives a shite if you lot die.

[lankanbaby]

you fucking stupid shite bag. ur still busy killing yourselves arent you. oh wait. i forgot no one gives a shite if you lot die.

no one gives a shit? lol

you mean no one in this world give a shit about muslims? Wait who's killing themselves? The last time I checked it was you fucking muslim barbarians who enjoyed watching public stoning of humans to death

keep on talking....you're only justifying my views about you bunch....

[di vinci]

no one gives a shit? lol

you mean no one in this world give a shit about muslims? Wait who's killing themselves? The last time I checked it was you fucking muslim barbarians who enjoyed watching public stoning of humans to death

keep on talking....you're only justifying my views about you bunch....
i think u need a pakistani dick up ur pussy. that way u will learn to shut the fuck up. pity ur men are extreamely small in size and grith :kekeke:

[The Genie]

why cant people just leave the drugs alone!!

[The Genie]

clearly you knew that video is gona offend people so why did you post it ?!!

[PakPlaya69]

i think u need a pakistani dick up ur pussy. that way u will learn to shut the fuck up. pity ur men are extreamely small in size and grith :kekeke:
Mate its already been in her and did its destruction .. now this bitch is only reacting to it .. its ok , pretty normal for an expired hoe :ugh:

[Incessant]

:cockblok: What do you all think of this video?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nI5WoXpmPiM

I agree with this guy one hundred percent.

You're clearly an ignorant feeble little mind, wallowing in the stew of her sadistic imbecilic ways.

Ofcourse, as tempting as it is to put a miserable little cretin like yourself back in the gutter hole you crawled out from - I'm not going to let you have the privilege and enjoy the sick pleasure.

You pretty much raped your own dignity and quite perfectly molested your bigoted existence, right here infront of the whole forum to relish their eyes upon - by exposing your own pitiful biases!

Now now Ramona, don't ravage a Tsunami down those panties in utter dismay.

Moral of the story: Sub-human wastes of flesh, need lovin' too!

:Paper: Shooo

Next!

[Incessant]

Mate its already been in her and did its destruction .. now this bitch is only reacting to it .. its ok , pretty normal for an expired hoe :ugh:

:rofl:

[whiteass]

What do you all think of this video?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nI5WoXpmPiM

I agree with this guy one hundred percent.

:neutral:

[whiteass]

fucking retard. My faith in muslims are dying more and more every day because of the retarded shit muslims like you say

vinci is not a retard.. :neutral:

[Cunard]

100% agree with the fellow in the video

[PakPlaya69]

100% agree with the fellow in the video
You are a sardar , your opinion doesn count :ugh:

[yussi]

ok im watching the video now, first impressions?
I never knew guys as old he as looks used youtube

[Cunard]

You are a sardar , your opinion doesn count :ugh:

news to me

[PuNjabi_RaNi*]

You are a sardar , your opinion doesn count :ugh:
Uhh no you are wrong.

[selina_786]

Your reply


http://youtube.com/watch?v=p2Clk5lNUdQ&feature=related

[Cunard]

Your reply


http://youtube.com/watch?v=p2Clk5lNUdQ&feature=related


he contradicts himself a few times in the first min

next

[yussi]

Your reply


http://youtube.com/watch?v=p2Clk5lNUdQ&feature=relatedahhh ALI is sucha funny dude, i saw him at one of those islam channel arrnaged functions at excel in london, im not religious myself and i wouldnt call myself a practicing muslim, but that dude speaks sense.

[adam_uk]

he contradicts himself a few times in the first min

next

but you fail to state these contradictions.

[adam_uk]

religon is something of the past


:werd:

:no:


Religion is what the laws we have today were based on. Without religion where would we be? Anyway that video had nothing to do with Religion it was just an atheist mans cry to the possibility of implementation of sharia law.

Why do people fear sharia law?

Dr zakir naik (student of islam )says:

Capital punishment for the rapists

Under the Islamic shariah, a man convicted of having raped a woman, is given capital punishment. Many are astonished at this ‘harsh’ sentence. Some even say that Islam is a ruthless, barbaric religion! I have asked a simple question to hundreds of non-Muslim men. Suppose, God forbid, someone rapes your wife, your mother or your sister. You are made the judge and the rapist is brought in front of you. What punishment would you give him? All of them said they would put him to death. Some went to the extent of saying they would torture him to death. To them I ask, if someone rapes your wife or your mother you want to put him to death. But if the same crime is committed on somebody else’s wife or daughter you say capital punishment is barbaric. Why should there be double standards?

United States of America is supposed to be one of the most advanced countries of the world. It also has one of the highest rates of rape in any country in the world. According to a FBI report, in the year 1990, every day on an average
1756 cases of rape were committed in U.S.A alone. Later another report said that on an average everyday 1900 cases of rapes are committed in USA. The year was not mentioned. May be it was 1992 or 1993. May be the Americans got ‘bolder’ in the following years. Consider a scenario where the Islamic hijab is followed in America. When ever a man looks at a woman and any brazen or unashamed thought comes to his mind, he lowers his gaze. Every woman wears the Islamic hijab, that is the complete body is covered except the face and the hands up to the wrist. After this if any man commits rape he is given capital punishment. I ask you, in such
a scenario, will the rate of rape in America increase, will it remain the same, or will it decrease?

Naturally as soon as Islamic Shariah is implemented positive results will be inevitable. If Islamic Shariah is implemented in any part of the world, whether it is America or Europe, society will breathe easier.

A Practical way of reducing the rates theft

America is supposed to be one of the most advanced countries in the world.
Unfortunately it also has one of the highest rates of crime, theft, and robbery. Suppose the Islamic shariah is implemented in America i.e. every rich person gives Zakat ( 2.5% of his savings in charity above 85 grams of gold every lunar year), and every convicted robber has his or her hands chopped off as a punishment. Will the rate of theft and robbery in America increase, remain same or decrease? Naturally it will decrease. Moreover the existence of such a stringent law would discourage many a potential robber.
I agree that the amount of theft that takes place in the world today is so tremendous that if you chop off the hands of all the thieves, there will be tens of thousands of people whose hands will be chopped off. The point here is that the moment you implement this law the rate of theft will decline immediately. The potential robber would give it a serious thought before jeopardizing his limbs. The mere thought of the punishment itself will discourage majority of the robbers. There will barely be a few who would rob. Hence only a few people’s hands would be chopped off but millions would live peacefully without fear of being robbed. Islamic Shariah is therefore practical, and achieves results. I believe in the sharia which I believe is for human rights.

Islam has a system of hijab. The Glorious Qur’an first mentions hijab for the men and then for the women. Hijab for the men is mentioned in the following verse:
“Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty: that will make for greater purity for them: and Allah is well acquainted with all that they do.” [Al-Qur’an 24:30]
The moment a man looks at a woman and if any brazen or unashamed thought comes to his mind, he should lower his gaze.

An F.B.I report in the year 1990 says that 1,02,555 cases of rape were reported. It further says that only 16% of the cases of rapes are reported. Thus, in order to know the actual number of rapes that took place in 1990, the reported figure should be multiplied by 6.25. We get a total of 6,40,968 rape cases that took place in the year 1990. If the total is divided by 365 the number of days in a year, we get an average of 1,756 rape incidents everyday. Later another report said that an average of 1900 cases of rape is committed in U.S.A every day. According to National Crime Victimization Survey Bureau of Justice Statistics (U. S. Dept. of Justice) in 1996 alone 3,07,000 cases of rape were reported. Only 31% of the actual cases of rape were reported. Thus, 3,07,000 X 3.226 = 9,90,322 rapes took place in 1996.
That is, an average of 2,713 cases of rape took place everyday in America in 1996. Every 32 seconds one rape is taking place in America. Maybe American rapists got bolder. The FBI report of 1990 continues and says that out of the rape cases that were reported only 10% of the rapist were arrested, that is only 1.6% of the actual rapes committed. Out of those arrested, 50% were let free before the trial. This would mean that only 0.8% of the rapists faced a trial. In other words if a person commits 125 rapes the chances that he will get a punishment for rape is only once. Many would consider this a good gamble. And the report says that of those people who faced trial 50% received sentences of less than a year’s imprisonment though the American law says rape carries a seven year sentence of imprisonment. For a rapist, the judge is lenient to first time offenders. Imagine a person commits 125 rapes and the chances of being convicted is only once, and 50% of the time the judge will grant leniency and give a sentence of less than a year!

Just some logical arguments.

[adam_uk]

What do you all think of this video?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nI5WoXpmPiM

I agree with this guy one hundred percent.


Do you? well i beg to differ. He makes out that two women witnesses are needed for every case in shariah court.

Why are two witnesses who are women, equivalent to only one witness who is a man ?

Answer by Dr zakir naik:

It is not true that two female witnesses are always considered as equal to only one male witness. It is true only in certain cases. There are about five verses in the Qur’an that mention witnesses, without specifying male or female. There is only one verse in the Qur’an, that says two female witnesses are equal to one male witness. This verse is Surah Baqarah, chapter 2 verse 282. This is the longest verse in the Qur’an and deals with financial transactions. It says:

"Oh! ye who believe!
When ye deal with each other,
in transactions involving future obligation
in a fixed period of time
reduce them to writing and get two witnesses
out of your own men and if there are not two men,
then a man and two women, such as ye choose,
for witnesses so that if one of them errs
the other can remind her."
[Al-Qur’an 2:282]

This verse of the Qur’an deals only with financial transactions. In such cases, it is advised to make an agreement in writing between the parties and take two witnesses, preferably both of which should be men only. In case you cannot find two men, then one man and two women would suffice.

For instance, suppose a person wants to undergo an operation for a particular ailment. To confirm the treatment, he would prefer taking references from two qualified surgeons. In case he is unable to find two surgeons, his second option would be one surgeon and two general practitioners who are plain MBBS doctors.

Similarly in financial transactions, two men are preferred. Islam expects men to be the breadwinners of their families. Since financial responsibility is shouldered by men, they are expected to be well versed in financial transactions as compared to women. As a second option, the witness can be one man and two women, so that if one of the women errs the other can remind her. The Arabic word used in the Qur’an is ‘Tazil’ which means ‘confused’ or ‘to err’. Many have wrongly translated this word as ‘to forget’. Thus financial transactions constitute the only case in which two female witnesses are equal to one male witness.

However, some scholars are of the opinion that the feminine attitude can also have an effect on the witness in a murder case. In such circumstances a woman is more terrified as compared to a man. Due to her emotional condition she can get confused. Therefore, according to some jurists, even in cases of murder, two female witnesses are equivalent to one male witness. In all other cases, one female witness is equivalent to one male witness. There are about five verses in the Qur’an which speak about witnesses without specifying man or woman.

While making a will of inheritance, two just persons are required as witnesses. In Surah Maidah chapter 5 verse 106, the Glorious Qur’an says:

"Oh you who believe!
When death approaches any of you,
(take) witnesses among yourself when making bequests."
[Al-Qur’an 5:106]

two just persons of your own (brotherhood)
or other from outside if you are journeying
through the earth and the chance of death befalls you."
[Al-Qur’an 65:2]

Two persons endued with justice in case of talaq.

"Four witnesses are required
in case of charge against chaste women,
[Al-Qur’an 24:4]

There are some scholars who are of the opinion that the rule of two female witnesses equal to one male witness should be applied to all the cases. This cannot be agreed upon because one particular verse of the Qur’an from Surah Noor chapter 24, verse 6 clearly equates one female witness and one male witness:

"And those who launch a charge
against their spouses, and have (in support)
no evidence but their own -
their solitary evidence can be received."
[Al-Qur’an 24:6]

Hazrat Ayesha (RA) hadith narrated of one witness

Many jurists agree that even one witness of a woman is sufficient for the sighting of the crescent of the moon. Imagine one woman witness is sufficient for one of the pillars of Islam, i.e. fasting and the whole Muslim community of men and women agree and accept her witness! Some jurists say that one witness is required at the beginning of Ramadaan and two witnesses at the end of Ramadaan. It makes no difference whether the witnesses are men or women.

Some incidents require only female witness and that of a male cannot be accepted. For instance, in dealing with the problems of women, while giving the burial bath i.e. ‘ghusl’ to a woman, the witness has to be a woman.

The seeming inequality of male and female witnesses in financial transactions is not due to any inequality of the sexes in Islam. It is only due to the different natures and roles of men and women in society as envisaged by Islam.

[SSSash]

funny the guys atheist. so he agaisnt the whole concept of religion. it men like him who have destroy the fabrics of a family, community, friendships. now a days its better to be a single mum then being a married women with kids. religion give man kind a bond, it help us to realised that we are not alone but we are surrounded by others. if you take religion out of the west we will literally have nothing left to cheerish hold sacred

Highly debatable.

[di vinci]

Highly debatable.
depends which way you look at. briitish society is falling apart. family values are being corroded away day by day. yob cultures taking over. respect for your elders and your teachers is non existance

[SSSash]

depends which way you look at. briitish society is falling apart. family values are being corroded away day by day. yob cultures taking over. respect for your elders and your teachers is non existance

Communism could sort it out.

[di vinci]

Communism could sort it out.
your following someones idiology and theres no freee will

[SSSash]

your following someones idiology and theres no freee will

True, but I don't see why religion is required to make people behave morally.