The world's officially a fucked place..i mean, "Wombs for Rent"?

[mubsta84]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071230/ap_on_re_as/india_wombs_for_rent

JEEBUS! :neutral:

Edit:- you're a wanker if you don't discuss this shit with me. :mad:

[mubsta84]

and here i was laughing to myself at how talebs post it note thread was a complete failure *sigh*

[Irreligious Left]

I don't see what the big deal is.

[PilotD]

surrogate mothers? yeh it happens..

[mubsta84]

I don't see what the big deal is.
The problem is that people are making a business out of it all. I dont support the idea of surrogate mothers anyways, it's religiously wrong to begin in (not just with Islam). Plus, wouldn't it be considered adultery anyways?

[mubsta84]

surrogate mothers? yeh it happens..

yea? I think i already figured that out...but thanks for your help.

[jumpn jza]

surrogate mothers!!
NO WAY!




:Paper:

[Cunard]

The problem is that people are making a business out of it all. I dont support the idea of surrogate mothers anyways, it's religiously wrong to begin in (not just with Islam). Plus, wouldn't it be considered adultery anyways?

Islam should have other things to worry about :arrow:

I see nothing wrong with this...infact for 9 months of "work" they make so much money that they are standing on a firm financial future


Suman Dodia, a pregnant, baby-faced 26-year-old, said she will buy a house with the $4,500 she receives from the British couple whose child she's carrying. It would have taken her 15 years to earn that on her maid's monthly salary of $25.

Gheewala, who plans to save the $6,250 she's earning for her two daughters' education.

[Irreligious Left]

The problem is that people are making a business out of it all. I dont support the idea of surrogate mothers anyways, it's religiously wrong to begin in (not just with Islam). Plus, wouldn't it be considered adultery anyways?

We do not live under Islamic or religious law, and adultery is not illegal.

[-sgt-]

i guess at the end of the day ... its all about money

[jumpn jza]

The problem is that people are making a business out of it all. I dont support the idea of surrogate mothers anyways, it's religiously wrong to begin in (not just with Islam). Plus, wouldn't it be considered adultery anyways?

ohh god...it's the religious nutters that fuck things up for others...whether it be abortion, stem cell research or IVF - which should all be perfectly legal!!

IVF is not adultery lol...

[ewwwww]

I think it is a good thing.

[Cunard]

We do not live under Islamic or religious law, and adultery is not illegal.

thank god for that :p

[BurntToast]

How much for yours?

Sign me up for 18 months. Thanks.

[BurntToast]

thank god for that :p

I see you.

[EwLookItsYou]

it's okay as long as the surrogate mothers are not risking themselves too much,
I mean if they assign a woman to give birth and the woman has a higher risk of getting sick or dying from giving birth then of course its morally wrong,
but other than that, it helps both parties out tremendously.

[musicchic33]

I'd sell my eggs AND my womb for a paid RD subscription

[seren1ty]

they should get paid a LOT more, like 5x what they get paid now.

this is ridiculous. and its very patronizing.

[supshorty]

so?

brighten the fuck up.
there are people out there who can't have kids and if women are willing to help them, let them.
damn you narrow minded people.
:no:

[mubsta84]

Islam should have other things to worry about :arrow:

I see nothing wrong with this...infact for 9 months of "work" they make so much money that they are standing on a firm financial future


Suman Dodia, a pregnant, baby-faced 26-year-old, said she will buy a house with the $4,500 she receives from the British couple whose child she's carrying. It would have taken her 15 years to earn that on her maid's monthly salary of $25.

Gheewala, who plans to save the $6,250 she's earning for her two daughters' education.
You mean, muslims should have other things to worry about? But on a clearer note, just like i said before, NOT JUST ISLAM. If Hindu'ism promotes adultery or even turns the other cheek on it, then that's pretty fucked up.
As far as the money is concerned, why not just whore yourself out at a higher level and save yourself the pain that you'll go through for nine months? :arrow:

[mubsta84]

We do not live under Islamic or religious law, and adultery is not illegal.
We dont, yet it's morally wrong. I'm not saying the government should outlaw this, it's just that people who go ahead with this, disturb me.

[mubsta84]

i guess at the end of the day ... its all about money
:werd: -fucked up ay?

[mubsta84]

ohh god...it's the religious nutters that fuck things up for others...whether it be abortion, stem cell research or IVF - which should all be perfectly legal!!

IVF is not adultery lol...
do you see me chanting anything about IVF? so why dont you jumpin jza the fuc outta here? :arrow:

[mubsta84]

it's okay as long as the surrogate mothers are not risking themselves too much,
I mean if they assign a woman to give birth and the woman has a higher risk of getting sick or dying from giving birth then of course its morally wrong,
but other than that, it helps both parties out tremendously.
i disagree. I saw this Indian movie on it actually (it had preity zinta, rani mukherjee and salman khan in it), and preity was the surrogate mother who refused to give the child back upon birth. pwned much?

[bhavikasita]

You mean, muslims should have other things to worry about? But on a clearer note, just like i said before, NOT JUST ISLAM. If Hindu'ism promotes adultery or even turns the other cheek on it, then that's pretty fucked up.
As far as the money is concerned, why not just whore yourself out at a higher level and save yourself the pain that you'll go through for nine months? :arrow:

The surrogate mothers dont necesserly need to have sex with the guy... They can just inject themselves with the guys sperm therefore not really adultery ... I would become a surrogate if it meant helping someone who can't have children :)

[mubsta84]

so?

brighten the fuck up.
there are people out there who can't have kids and if women are willing to help them, let them.
damn you narrow minded people.
:no:
grow out of your high school mentality and the whole fuckin FOB shit and narrow mindness cry. You people are constantly out there to voice out to everybody that "HEY! lookey! Though i'm fuckin brown as fuck, i dont act it! please accept me!"..well, here's news..nobody gives two shits about it :arrow:

[mubsta84]

The surrogate mothers dont necesserly need to have sex with the guy... They can just inject themselves with the guys sperm therefore not really adultery ... I would become a surrogate if it meant helping someone who can't have children :)
It's still wrong. Adopt for crying out loud!. This whole blood line shit is discriminating.

[bhavikasita]

It's still wrong. Adopt for crying out loud!. This whole blood line shit is discriminating.

Hmmm I dont see why u find it so wrong

[di vinci]

wheres theres a demand theres always somone there to exploit it, for financial gains

[mubsta84]

Hmmm I dont see why u find it so wrong
well, my stance is on something moral and somewhat religious (though they both weave into each other). If you're not having a kid on your own, then that's how it's meant for you to be....adopt!

[mubsta84]

wheres theres a demand theres always somone there to exploit it, for financial gains
we figured that out from the article. Thanks anyways

[bhavikasita]

well, my stance is on something moral and somewhat religious (though they both weave into each other). If you're not having a kid on your own, then that's how it's meant for you to be....adopt!

Yeah that would be my first option ... I dont think I would ever ask for a surrogate only be one ... But I wouldnt ask for any money and I would only do it if I didnt have a family and knew the people I was surrogating for well

[mubsta84]

Yeah that would be my first option ... I dont think I would ever ask for a surrogate only be one ... But I wouldnt ask for any money and I would only do it if I didnt have a family and knew the people I was surrogating for well
If you're capable of being a surrogate, why would you encounter the need of having one? :idea:

[bhavikasita]

If you're capable of being a surrogate, why would you encounter the need of having one? :idea:

It was hypothetical but yeah you got me there haha

[mubsta84]

It was hypothetical but yeah you got me there haha
:cool:

[girl_inpink]

We dont, yet it's morally wrong. I'm not saying the government should outlaw this, it's just that people who go ahead with this, disturb me.

some of the people who go ahead with this are cancer patients, or people who cannot conceive for infertility issues, if they have an opportunity to having a child with their own genetics why should they be denied that? everything in life is a risk, if the people involved are happy then who are we to interfere

[jumpn jza]

do you see me chanting anything about IVF? so why dont you jumpin jza the fuc outta here? :arrow:

idiot :arrow:

[OoDREAmerOo]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071230/ap_on_re_as/india_wombs_for_rent

JEEBUS! :neutral:

Edit:- you're a wanker if you don't discuss this shit with me. :mad:

wtf? how is that "fucked up"?...its science, bitch.

:slap:

get with it.

-drea

[w1ld]

Brownies will rule this world soon :cheers:

[aximx50]

The problem is that people are making a business out of it all. I dont support the idea of surrogate mothers anyways, it's religiously wrong to begin in (not just with Islam). Plus, wouldn't it be considered adultery anyways?

- i don't think it is considered adultery. its not like the man is literally having sex with the surroagate mother.

[~ERICA~]

:no: sad

[chocolat]

dude, how the fuck is it adultery?

[SillyKitty]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071230/ap_on_re_as/india_wombs_for_rent

JEEBUS! :neutral:

Edit:- you're a wanker if you don't discuss this shit with me. :mad:
Whats soo wrong about it?

do u have any idea.. how painful it is for a woman to deliver the kids?

if a woman can afford it..why not?

[SillyKitty]

The problem is that people are making a business out of it all. I dont support the idea of surrogate mothers anyways, it's religiously wrong to begin in (not just with Islam). Plus, wouldn't it be considered adultery anyways?
lol how the hell is it adultry :lol:

do u think the guy has to have sex with the surrogate mother? lol

do u live under the rocks? there are soo many technologies out there.. they can put the fermented egg from the woman who is payin for it, into the surrogate mothers womb

[HeAvYmAcHiNeGuN]

I'd sell my eggs AND my womb for a paid RD subscription

:shock: :shock: :shock:

[chocolat]

lol how the hell is it adultry :lol:

do u think the guy has to have sex with the surrogate mother? lol

do u live under the rocks? there are soo many technologies out there.. they can put the fermented egg from the woman who is payin for it, into the surrogate mothers womb

:rofl:

[Space-Cowboy]

grow out of your high school mentality and the whole fuckin FOB shit and narrow mindness cry. You people are constantly out there to voice out to everybody that "HEY! lookey! Though i'm fuckin brown as fuck, i dont act it! please accept me!"..well, here's news..nobody gives two shits about it :arrow:


You got beaten up a lot in highschool, didn't you?

[supshorty]

grow out of your high school mentality and the whole fuckin FOB shit and narrow mindness cry. You people are constantly out there to voice out to everybody that "HEY! lookey! Though i'm fuckin brown as fuck, i dont act it! please accept me!"..well, here's news..nobody gives two shits about it :arrow:



high school maturity?
i'm sorry you're the one thinking that it's "immoral" for someone to HELP a couple have a baby.
it has nothing to do with being brown you moron. anyone can be narrow minded those born again christians are on the same little boat as you so shut the fuck up about all that.
so stop making it about being brown it's about your beliefs.
so you get the fuck outta here, b.

[Space-Cowboy]

high school maturity?
i'm sorry you're the one thinking that it's "immoral" for someone to HELP a couple have a baby.
it has nothing to do with being brown you moron. anyone can be narrow minded those born again christians are on the same little boat as you so shut the fuck up about all that.
so stop making it about being brown it's about your beliefs.
so you get the fuck outta here, b.


RACIST!!!111

[mubsta84]

some of the people who go ahead with this are cancer patients, or people who cannot conceive for infertility issues, if they have an opportunity to having a child with their own genetics why should they be denied that? everything in life is a risk, if the people involved are happy then who are we to interfere
some serial killers are happy too...should we not interfere. No matter if you have cancer, or a limp dick, I think it's better to adopt. Why would you wanna have a child by artificial means?

[mubsta84]

idiot :arrow:
moron :arrow:

[mubsta84]

wtf? how is that "fucked up"?...its science, bitch.

:slap:

get with it.

-drea
would you allow your man to get a blow job from someone else, cuz' he wont really be having sex with her, just injecting her with his jizz, hoe.
get with it :arrow:

[mubsta84]

:no: sad
Thank you. *breath of relief*

[mubsta84]

Whats soo wrong about it?

do u have any idea.. how painful it is for a woman to deliver the kids?

if a woman can afford it..why not?
So is a womans first time having sex...have your husband rent out a whore if he can afford one.

[mubsta84]

lol how the hell is it adultry :lol:

do u think the guy has to have sex with the surrogate mother? lol

do u live under the rocks? there are soo many technologies out there.. they can put the fermented egg from the woman who is payin for it, into the surrogate mothers womb
Uh, I'm in med school, so i definitely know about this shit more than you do. If your mans jizz ends up somewhere else, it's adultery..not just the act of him poking his tool into a female cavity.

[mubsta84]

lol how the hell is it adultry :lol:

do u think the guy has to have sex with the surrogate mother? lol

do u live under the rocks? there are soo many technologies out there.. they can put the fermented egg from the woman who is payin for it, into the surrogate mothers womb
:rofl: if your egg ferments, then you're capable of conceiving. dumbo :arrow:

[mubsta84]

You got beaten up a lot in highschool, didn't you?
Nope. not even close.

[mubsta84]

high school maturity?
i'm sorry you're the one thinking that it's "immoral" for someone to HELP a couple have a baby.
it has nothing to do with being brown you moron. anyone can be narrow minded those born again christians are on the same little boat as you so shut the fuck up about all that.
so stop making it about being brown it's about your beliefs.
so you get the fuck outta here, b.
firstly, i was referring to "high school immaturity", not maturity.
secondly, i think it's immoral to try and conceive by artificial means. If you cant have a kid on your own, then like i said before, thats how it's meant for you to be..so adopt, which i think is a greater act.
Thirdly, since you're a fucked up bitch who's defying religion, i see no point in trying to get my point across to you cuz' my stance is purely keeping all religions into mind. Because if you defy religion, everything becomes normal. Be it killing people, selling/buying drugs, so go hump an animal cuz' i'm sure you're broad minded like that. :arrow:
P.S:- my thread, so you leave, G.

[Cunard]

Uh, I'm in med school, so i definitely know about this shit more than you do. If your mans jizz ends up somewhere else, it's adultery..not just the act of him poking his tool into a female cavity.


holy fuck! sound the alarms!...we got ourselves a 1st year medical student who thinks hes a doctor already

[mubsta84]

holy fuck! sound the alarms!...we got ourselves a 1st year medical student who thinks hes a doctor already
4th year. And yes, you're officially called a doctor after completing med school half way. Just not licensed to practice. You can now continue humping the stick shift of your over rated truck.

[Cunard]

4th year. And yes, you're officially called a doctor after completing med school half way. Just not licensed to practice. You can now continue humping the stick shift of your over rated truck.

its not a stick shift though :idea:

tell me doc....now as a male...how should i proceed in humping a stick shift...

[mubsta84]

its not a stick shift though :idea:

tell me doc....now as a male...how should i proceed in humping a stick shift...
build one with play dough or some shit.
Alright patient, spread that obese ass apart, and lower your anal cavity onto the tool of your choice. Continue this motion till your hemorrhoids rupture and you pass out from bleeding extensively.

[Cunard]

build one with play dough or some shit.
Alright patient, spread that obese ass apart, and lower your anal cavity onto the tool of your choice. Continue this motion till your hemorrhoids rupture and you pass out from bleeding extensively.


omg!!! u know the ways of the people of the queer :ugh:

[mubsta84]

omg!!! u know the ways of the people of the queer :ugh:
I do see alot of your kind showing up in the E.R. with something shoved up their posterior. We have to document details, standard procedure :idea:

[Cunard]

I do see alot of your kind showing up in the E.R. with something shoved up their posterior. We have to document details, standard procedure :idea:

my kind eh lol

yeah...u did get beat up alot in school didnt you :lol:

[mubsta84]

my kind eh lol

yeah...u did get beat up alot in school didnt you :lol:
Right. Nice comeback...though i think i read it a few lines up. lol, anyways, peace.

[Cunard]

Right. Nice comeback...though i think i read it a few lines up. lol, anyways, peace.

good to see im not the only one then

[mubsta84]

good to see im not the only one then
just checkin. Profuse bleeding does lead to decreased vision. See, I AM a good doctor. :hand:
P.S:- how is it like STILL getting beaten up?

[SillyKitty]

:rofl:
now wtf u laughin about? u been livin under the rocks too didnt you?

docs take the eggs, from the woman who doesnt want to carry the child. and sperm from the father.. and place is in the serg.mother's womb.

[SillyKitty]

So is a womans first time having sex...have your husband rent out a whore if he can afford one.

why the hell u comparing having sex to delivering a baby?

do u have ANY idea how different it is?
just look at the size of a baby and the size of a dick.
:rofl: do hey look same to u?

[vsaigal]

now wtf u laughin about? u been livin under the rocks too didnt you?

docs take the eggs, from the woman who doesnt want to carry the child. and sperm from the father.. and place is in the serg.mother's womb.

yo no getting so gusa. chill.


wombs for rent. sounds immoral. but where if it is legal and has binding laws to protect the sperm and ovaries of the parents. wudnt it be fair. the woman would solely be doing it for the money, and she wud sign on consent. :cool:

[SillyKitty]

yo no getting so gusa. chill.


wombs for rent. sounds immoral. but where if it is legal and has binding laws to protect the sperm and ovaries of the parents. wudnt it be fair. the woman would solely be doing it for the money, and she wud sign on consent. :cool:


well whats soo bad about it?

some women.. dont have the ability to carry the child

for example.. actor Dennis Quaid's wife.. she tried to have a baby.. and had 3 misscarriages.. docs said she wont be able to carry a baby..
and they went and got a surrogate mother..

[vsaigal]

well whats soo bad about it?

some women.. dont have the ability to carry the child

for example.. actor Dennis Quaid's wife.. she tried to have a baby.. and had 3 misscarriages.. docs said she wont be able to carry a baby..
and they went and got a surrogate mother..

ok thats cool.

[SillyKitty]

ok thats cool.
yup.. like there are girls with smaller wombs.. or some other complications..

they can do it.

just have to speak to a doc about it..especially before getting preg.
its better go get checked out if a girl is able to carry a child..

[jardras]

lol @ this armchair doctor, prolly had to go to medical school in pakistan cause he couldnt get into u.s schools.

[mubsta84]

why the hell u comparing having sex to delivering a baby?

do u have ANY idea how different it is?
just look at the size of a baby and the size of a dick.
:rofl: do hey look same to u?
True..my bad. I forgot how your vagina's all gaped up and the fact that you lost your hymen at age 9. Hence, it should not hurt you at all. My apologies.

[mubsta84]

lol @ this armchair doctor, prolly had to go to medical school in pakistan cause he couldnt get into u.s schools.
correction:- chose to go to med school in pakistan to save time and money. You can now go continue doing your janitorial work at the local meat shop :arrow:

[TheDude]

correction:- chose to go to med school in pakistan to save time and money.

lol right.

list of american schools you got into?

[(sic)]

lol right.

list of american schools you got into?
ooh mama ki kobor

[mubsta84]

lol right.

list of american schools you got into?
I went to ASU for a year doing pre-med. So i really can't give you a list of med schools cuz' i never got to that stage where i'd have to give my MCATs and apply.

[TheDude]

ooh mama ki kobor

kitha matho furi

:lulz: ok my siloti stops there.

haha happy new year! how have you been, mang?

[(sic)]

kitha matho furi

:lulz: ok my siloti stops there.

haha happy new year! how have you been, mang?
i havent been too bad. how about yourself? i'll be coming to your beautiful country to shag all your hot women in the summer :D

[TheDude]

i havent been too bad. how about yourself? i'll be coming to your beautiful country to shag all your hot women in the summer :D

man, leave some for me :(

[Space-Cowboy]

I went to ASU for a year doing pre-med. So i really can't give you a list of med schools cuz' i never got to that stage where i'd have to give my MCATs and apply.

^^^Yea, I'm pretty sure that's bullshit right there.

[mubsta84]

^^^Yea, I'm pretty sure that's bullshit right there.
why would it be bullshit?

[foreverconfused]

4th year. And yes, you're officially called a doctor after completing med school half way. Just not licensed to practice. You can now continue humping the stick shift of your over rated truck.

Maybe in pakistan, everywhere else it's considered pretentious and arrogant.

Don''t overestimate your abilities, especially when you paid your way into med school & didn't get in on your own merit.

[TheDude]

Maybe in pakistan, everywhere else it's considered pretentious and arrogant.

Don''t overestimate your abilities, especially when you paid your way into med school & didn't get in on your own merit.

:lulz:

its obvious he's bullshitting. let him be.

[Space-Cowboy]

why would it be bullshit?


Because judging by this thread, you don't sound like you're in any position to even begin thinking about writing the MCAT.

[foreverconfused]

:lulz:

its obvious he's bullshitting. let him be.

I like getting into e-fights. :kekeke:

[TheDude]

I like getting into e-fights. :kekeke:

yeah i noticed :lulz:

[Space-Cowboy]

I like getting into e-fights. :kekeke:


I like getting into e-pants. :kekeke: [especially TheDude's]

[TheDude]

:no:

just... :no:

[mubsta84]

Maybe in pakistan, everywhere else it's considered pretentious and arrogant.

Don''t overestimate your abilities, especially when you paid your way into med school & didn't get in on your own merit.
If calling yourself a doctor is considered arrogant, then that's how it's gonna be for me for the rest of my life :)
I'm not presenting my abilities here at all. Nor my knowledge. Just stating the fact that i do know the different procedures that they use, which is common knowledge, and i'm expressing my own opinion on it.
And no one can pay their way into med school, you can come here and try and get rejected. Plus, even if they did, you'll never be able to afford it considering your daddys retirement fund. bye :)

[mubsta84]

:lulz:

its obvious he's bullshitting. let him be.
lol, hmmm...

[Space-Cowboy]

:no:

just... :no:


Why won't you acknowledge my love for you? :(

[SillyKitty]

True..my bad. I forgot how your vagina's all gaped up and the fact that you lost your hymen at age 9. Hence, it should not hurt you at all. My apologies.
lol its funny how u are covering up ur ignorance by attacking me personally..

just ask any woman out there who delivered a baby. u will get ur answer.. its really dumb to even compare child birth to losing virginity


another thing.. did u read my post above? on why some women Do tend to go for the surrogate?

[mubsta84]

Because judging by this thread, you don't sound like you're in any position to even begin thinking about writing the MCAT.
I'm a complete alien to MCATs...i dont even know what they ask on it. Regarding medicine, you can ask me any basic sciences question (anatomy, physiology, biochemistry (i suck at that though), pharmacology and pathology) and i could answer it for you. On a side note, show me any one of my posts where my medical knowledge can be challenged...i haven't brought medicine into this at all...just people and their actions.

[foreverconfused]

If calling yourself a doctor is considered arrogant, then that's how it's gonna be for me for the rest of my life :)
I'm not presenting my abilities here at all. Nor my knowledge. Just stating the fact that i do know the different procedures that they use, which is common knowledge, and i'm expressing my own opinion on it.
And no one can pay their way into med school, you can come here and try and get rejected. Plus, even if they did, you'll never be able to afford it considering your daddys retirement fund. bye :)


rofl. you can lie all you want. we all know how you got in. I've known seriously retarded people who got into those schools. And normally, I don't make fun of them. But you seem like an arrogant dumbfuck.

[mubsta84]

lol its funny how u are covering up ur ignorance by attacking me personally..

just ask any woman out there who delivered a baby. u will get ur answer.. its really dumb to even compare child birth to losing virginity


another thing.. did u read my post above? on why some women Do tend to go for the surrogate?
it's funny how telling me that i've lived under rocks and shit not considered a personal attack? hmmm.
And i'm not quite sure if you've heard of pain killers that they use during childbirth..an epidural being one of them :idea:
Yes, and did you read my post where i said that i believe that if you cannot conceive naturally then that's how it's meant for you by God, and you should adopt then, cuz' i believe that's a greater act.

[mubsta84]

rofl. you can lie all you want. we all know how you got in. I've known seriously retarded people who got into those schools. And normally, I don't make fun of them. But you seem like an arrogant dumbfuck.
That stopped 6 years ago. Read the papers about how the SMC students got kicked out in their final years. so, in retrospect, i have something to be arrogant about atleast..you, on the contrary, are just a plain out dumbfuck. :arrow:

[selina_786]

Why not just adopt?

[foreverconfused]

That stopped 6 years ago. Read the papers about how the SMC students got kicked out in their final years. so, in retrospect, i have something to be arrogant about atleast..you, on the contrary, are just a plain out dumbfuck. :arrow:

lol. try not to make assumptions about people.
If you said all this in a medical school in the west, you'd get laughed at.

[mubsta84]

Why not just adopt?
Amen sista!

[mubsta84]

lol. try not to make assumptions about people.
If you said all this in a medical school in the west, you'd get laughed at.
said what dip shit? Express my own personal opinion about something? lol, make sense first..you're living upto your user name. lol

[foreverconfused]

said what dip shit? Express my own personal opinion about something? lol, make sense first..you're living upto your user name. lol

I'm referring to every post you've made in this thread.

[mubsta84]

lol. try not to make assumptions about people.
If you said all this in a medical school in the west, you'd get laughed at.
:rofl: wtf have you been doing throughout?

[mubsta84]

I'm referring to every post you've made in this thread.
yea, genius, none of it has been medicine...its been my own personal opinion :rofl: ...get the fuc outta here G. :rofl:

[foreverconfused]

:rofl: wtf have you been doing throughout?

let's just say I know enough about medical schools to make fairly accurate assumptions. you, on the other hand, are a moron. let's just leave it at that.

[mubsta84]

let's just say I know enough about medical schools to make fairly accurate assumptions. you, on the other hand, are a moron. let's just leave it at that.
lol, i'll let the bitch bark on this one. Keep moaning.

[SillyKitty]

it's funny how telling me that i've lived under rocks and shit not considered a personal attack? hmmm.
And i'm not quite sure if you've heard of pain killers that they use during childbirth..an epidural being one of them :idea:
Yes, and did you read my post where i said that i believe that if you cannot conceive naturally then that's how it's meant for you by God, and you should adopt then, cuz' i believe that's a greater act.

Trust me it IS a personal choice..

and most people do NOT think like you, if they have the money whats so bad about doing it.. if they want kids of their own.. (technically, as u have said u are a doc so u SHOULD know.. that the kid would be the ones who owns the egg and the sperm...)

and how could YOU.. who CLAIMS to be a doc.. think of it as an adultry? when there is no SEX involved. :no: thats funny.

[SillyKitty]

Why not just adopt?
because most people would want to see how their OWN kids look like.. i know i would.. if i wasnt able to carry the child..

[SillyKitty]

it's funny how telling me that i've lived under rocks and shit not considered a personal attack? hmmm.
And i'm not quite sure if you've heard of pain killers that they use during childbirth..an epidural being one of them :idea:
Yes, and did you read my post where i said that i believe that if you cannot conceive naturally then that's how it's meant for you by God, and you should adopt then, cuz' i believe that's a greater act.
:rofl: OMG.. thats what u call an attack? that really hurt you THAT bad ? are u that big of a wuss?

seriously. are u a guy or a girl? :neutral:

[mubsta84]

Trust me it IS a personal choice..

and most people do NOT think like you, if they have the money whats so bad about doing it.. if they want kids of their own.. (technically, as u have said u are a doc so u SHOULD know.. that the kid would be the ones who owns the egg and the sperm...)

and how could YOU.. who CLAIMS to be a doc.. think of it as an adultry? when there is no SEX involved. :no: thats funny.
Obviously it's a personalized choice, nobody's obligated to do it.
And exactly, most people DO NOT THINK LIKE ME, AND HENCE I AM ONLY STATING MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION SETTING MEDICINE ASIDE.
and in regards to your last question, i've already answered that in this thread...so read up before you post...i'm tired of repeating myself.

[Space-Cowboy]

Alright, enough of this.

Summarize in point form, why you believe this to be morally wrong.

[selina_786]

because most people would want to see how their OWN kids look like.. i know i would.. if i wasnt able to carry the child..
It wouldnt be YOUR child though, the way you put it.

[selina_786]

:rofl: OMG.. thats what u call an attack? that really hurt you THAT bad ? are u that big of a wuss?

seriously. are u a guy or a girl? :neutral:
Please shutup. You ain't no gangstaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[SillyKitty]

Obviously it's a personalized choice, nobody's obligated to do it.
And exactly, most people DO NOT THINK LIKE ME, AND HENCE I AM ONLY STATING MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION SETTING MEDICINE ASIDE.
and in regards to your last question, i've already answered that in this thread...so read up before you post...i'm tired of repeating myself.


Offcourse.. so hence.. ur thread has no value..

talkin about "The world'd officialy a fucked place.. " etc etc..

That means jack shit..

This is obviously The best thing a couple who cannot have a child normally, could have.


So, i guess no one really shares ur wierd views in here..

cuz u couldnt really make any valid point. except.. this is adultry, then i explained a would be doc(yea right) how it would be done. and that there is no adultry involved

any ways.. i dont think u or any one else could say anything else after this post..

so i rest my case..

Good bye

[SillyKitty]

It wouldnt be YOUR child though, the way you put it.
offcourse it woud be.. cuz the egg would be mine

[SillyKitty]

Please shutup. You ain't no gangstaaaaaaaaaaaaa
:Ohno: and YOU are?

[SillyKitty]

Alright, enough of this.

Summarize in point form, why you believe this to be morally wrong.
he thinks its Adultry..

lol

[SillyKitty]

and WHY its NOT adultry..


i just went to wikipedia right now so that i can prove you.. i am right..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrogate_mother
Surrogacy is an arrangement whereby a woman agrees to become pregnant for the purpose of gestating and giving birth to a child for others to raise. She may be the child's genetic mother (the more traditional form of surrogacy), or she may be implanted with someone else's fertilized egg (gestational surrogacy).

[SillyKitty]

and WHY its NOT adultry..


i just went to wikipedia right now so that i can prove you.. i am right..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrogate_mother
Surrogacy is an arrangement whereby a woman agrees to become pregnant for the purpose of gestating and giving birth to a child for others to raise. She may be the child's genetic mother (the more traditional form of surrogacy), or she may be implanted with someone else's fertilized egg (gestational surrogacy).
HENCE

that also shows.. that the baby would be mine .. if i wanted to get it like this. k miss selina?

[selina_786]

HENCE

that also shows.. that the baby would be mine .. if i wanted to get it like this
Youre an islamist, go for the straight forward biological route or adopt.

[SillyKitty]

Youre an islamist, go for the straight forward biological route or adopt.
Where does it say one cannot take the surrogate route?

plus what can someone do if they cannot carry the child?

as i have said earlier..
Actor Dennis quaid's wife tried to have a baby.. but she had 3 miss carriages..

and they had someone carry their child for them..

i see nothing wrong with it.. its a blessing.

[selina_786]

Where does it say one cannot take the surrogate route?

plus what can someone do if they cannot carry the child?

as i have said earlier..
Actor Dennis quaid's wife tried to have a baby.. but she had 3 miss carriages..

and they had someone carry their child for them..

i see nothing wrong with it.. its a blessing.
Arright relax, do whatever you want.

I don't care much, was killing time.. it's like bedtime for me.

....but hell if this is acceptable in Islam, I'd be extremely surprised.

Although if you find something on this, let me know. I still wouldn't take that route though.

[SillyKitty]

Arright relax, do whatever you want.

I don't care much, was killing time.. it's like bedtime for me.

....but hell if this is acceptable in Islam, I'd be extremely surprised.

Although if you find something on this, let me know. I still wouldn't take that route though.
yea i would like to know too...

i would look into that.

[selina_786]

check this :




The Legality of the Contract:



The contract which the surrogate mother and the married couple enters into can in no way be justified legally under the Shari'ah. It would be considered a batil (invalid) contract. This stand may be clarified by pointing out that a sale contract would be legal only if it involves such transactions as are permissible under the Shari'ah . For example, no transaction involving the sale of or purchase of alcohol (intoxicating drinks) would be legally valid. In the same manner, the contract between the married and the surrogate mother is invalid in the sense that1st. it is a contract stipulating the "sale" of a free person; and 2nd. it involves an element of adulterous implantation (the fertilised egg being implanted not in the wife but in the womb of the surrogate mother). Haha surprise surprise
http://www.themodernreligion.com/misc/hh/surrogate-parenting.html


First search result, so dont be all up on me.

[SillyKitty]

check this :




The Legality of the Contract:



The contract which the surrogate mother and the married couple enters into can in no way be justified legally under the Shari'ah. It would be considered a batil (invalid) contract. This stand may be clarified by pointing out that a sale contract would be legal only if it involves such transactions as are permissible under the Shari'ah . For example, no transaction involving the sale of or purchase of alcohol (intoxicating drinks) would be legally valid. In the same manner, the contract between the married and the surrogate mother is invalid in the sense that1st. it is a contract stipulating the "sale" of a free person; and 2nd. it involves an element of adulterous implantation (the fertilised egg being implanted not in the wife but in the womb of the surrogate mother). Haha surprise surprise
http://www.themodernreligion.com/misc/hh/surrogate-parenting.html


First search result, so dont be all up on me.


well does it say HOW it is adulterous? if its done by medical technology and not adultry?

i would like to knw that.

that is in no way clear.

[paulie walnuts]

this dude is posting from pakistan where dudes are blowing themselves up left and right, splashing battery acid on chicks who expose their ankles, sentencing girls to punitive rape, etc....but a surrogacy service in india is what leads to this epiphany about the world being fucked up.

wild and crazy!

[TheDude]

check this :




The Legality of the Contract:



The contract which the surrogate mother and the married couple enters into can in no way be justified legally under the Shari'ah. It would be considered a batil (invalid) contract. This stand may be clarified by pointing out that a sale contract would be legal only if it involves such transactions as are permissible under the Shari'ah . For example, no transaction involving the sale of or purchase of alcohol (intoxicating drinks) would be legally valid. In the same manner, the contract between the married and the surrogate mother is invalid in the sense that1st. it is a contract stipulating the "sale" of a free person; and 2nd. it involves an element of adulterous implantation (the fertilised egg being implanted not in the wife but in the womb of the surrogate mother). Haha surprise surprise
http://www.themodernreligion.com/misc/hh/surrogate-parenting.html


First search result, so dont be all up on me.

no white guy is gonna bone some hairy indian woman. so no, its not adultery. wtf is wrong with you? do you believe everything you read on the intrawebs? you dont even bother spending one second thinking about how retarded that sounds, so you just take it at face value? damn desi girls are stupid!

and if you were trolling sillykitty, more power to you. im the idiot in that case.

[TheDude]

this dude is posting from pakistan where dudes are blowing themselves up left and right, splashing battery acid on chicks who expose their ankles, sentencing girls to punitive rape, etc....but a surrogacy service in india is what leads to this epiphany about the world being fucked up.

wild and crazy!

:rofl:

[SillyKitty]

well does it say HOW it is adulterous? if its done by medical technology and not adultry?

i would like to knw that.

that is in no way clear.
and
who ever thinks thats adultry..

obviously never took his wife to the Gynocologist lol

cuz putting the fertilized egg into the surrogates mother is kinda like that.

if having a check up at the GYN is adultry.. so i guesss no muslim woman should visit the gyn? innit? lol

[SillyKitty]

no white guy is gonna bone some hairy indian woman. so no, its not adultery. wtf is wrong with you? do you believe everything you read on the intrawebs? you dont even bother spending one second thinking about how retarded that sounds, so you just take it at face value? damn desi girls are stupid!

and if you were trolling sillykitty, more power to you. im the idiot in that case.
You deserve this :slap: for that comment




u ARE an idiot

[TheDude]

:crying: sillykitty called me an idiot. what am i ever gonna do with my life :crying:

[SillyKitty]

:crying: sillykitty called me an idiot. what am i ever gonna do with my life :crying:
Idiot




Now go kill yourself.. :evil:

but before you do that..

why dont you tell them why it isnt considered adultry? cuz everything i said flew over their head

[selina_786]

and
who ever thinks thats adultry..

obviously never took his wife to the Gynocologist lol

cuz putting the fertilized egg into the surrogates mother is kinda like that.

if having a check up at the GYN is adultry.. so i guesss no muslim woman should visit the gyn? innit? lol
There were a few other Islam links stating the same though?

[supshorty]

firstly, i was referring to "high school immaturity", not maturity.
secondly, i think it's immoral to try and conceive by artificial means. If you cant have a kid on your own, then like i said before, thats how it's meant for you to be..so adopt, which i think is a greater act.
Thirdly, since you're a fucked up bitch who's defying religion, i see no point in trying to get my point across to you cuz' my stance is purely keeping all religions into mind. Because if you defy religion, everything becomes normal. Be it killing people, selling/buying drugs, so go hump an animal cuz' i'm sure you're broad minded like that. :arrow:
P.S:- my thread, so you leave, G.

:blahblah:


you're whole point is invalid because you brought up religion.
can't argue your point without religion, right?
if "God" didn't want us to do it he/she wouldn't have given us the technology to do so.
and SOME people want their own flesh and blood so just beacause YOU don't, don't call the other people who do immoral because there is nothing immoral about it.

lmao this kid is mad talking about humping animals .. fuck outta here don't be mad because your little religion is telling you it's wrong.
and this is a public forum, moron, anyone can post .
even dumb fucks like you, sadly :no:

[OoDREAmerOo]

would you allow your man to get a blow job from someone else, cuz' he wont really be having sex with her, just injecting her with his jizz, hoe.
get with it :arrow:

yeah since having a viable uterus carrying OUR embryo is equivalent to having my man bust a nut in some skanks mouth...gimme a break, rent-a-dr.

-drea

[mubsta84]

Alright, a much delayed reply cuz' i wasn't around. Anyways, this will hopefully mark the closure of this thread. To all of you who are still fuckin asking me why i think it's adulterous, READ UP cuz' i've explained my stance on it only a coupla million times. So just dont go about asking the same question just so somebody accepts you on their band wagon and you're considered even cooler by RD standards. For the others who think it's not adulterous, that's your opinion, and you're completely entitled to it. Selina even linked you to the site which would support my argument so dont pull the whole "dont believe what you read kinda shit" cuz' then "a" does not come before "b" and neither does 1+1=2 :idea:
And for the last group of you fuckheads who keep on rambling about whatever shits going on in pakistan, lemme tell you a lil secret...I DONT GIVE A FUCK....cuz' i'm not a part of it and as long as my ass is safe, i could care less. It's terrorists like you who have to constantly yap on about it so nobody suspects your ass. Guantanamo would be to your next left :arrow:

[selina_786]

:blahblah:


you're whole point is invalid because you brought up religion.
can't argue your point without religion, right?
if "God" didn't want us to do it he/she wouldn't have given us the technology to do so.
and SOME people want their own flesh and blood so just beacause YOU don't, don't call the other people who do immoral because there is nothing immoral about it.

lmao this kid is mad talking about humping animals .. fuck outta here don't be mad because your little religion is telling you it's wrong.
and this is a public forum, moron, anyone can post .
even dumb fucks like you, sadly :no:
No, you have it wrong. God has given humans intelligence to go and do whatever they want to with freewill.

[mubsta84]

No, you have it wrong. God has given humans intelligence to go and do whatever they want to with freewill.
lol, it's just gonna be funny how they'll have to take great care of the woman they choose out of the harem they'll be presented with, take care of it for 9 months (give or take a few), have a baby shower for another woman for "their kid" :rofl: and at the end, she misscarries it or decides to keep it for herself - pwned.

[girl_inpink]

some serial killers are happy too...should we not interfere. No matter if you have cancer, or a limp dick, I think it's better to adopt. Why would you wanna have a child by artificial means?

like i said, if some couples want their kids to have their genetics and who are unable to do this naturally due to medical problems, why not? its their life.

by the way for a "4th year med student" you should show a little professionalism with your attitude as your not putting medics out in a good light. cheers

[mubsta84]

like i said, if some couples want their kids to have their genetics and who are unable to do this naturally due to medical problems, why not? its their life.

by the way for a "4th year med student" you should show a little professionalism with your attitude as your not putting medics out in a good light. cheers
:rofl: you're another one of em. I'm not putting medics into this at all. Read the whole thread up, i've stated it countless times.
and it's wrong religiously...you can go on arguing about it till but it still wouldn't make it right. adopt and make the world a better place

[Cunard]

lol, it's just gonna be funny how they'll have to take great care of the woman they choose out of the harem they'll be presented with, take care of it for 9 months (give or take a few), have a baby shower for another woman for "their kid" :rofl: and at the end, she misscarries it or decides to keep it for herself - pwned.


wow....what are you...like 13 :ugh:

[mubsta84]

wow....what are you...like 13 :ugh:
yezzir..13 inches...i only got around 9 up yours...i'll push it in further next time. okthxbye :)

[Cunard]

yezzir..13 inches...i only got around 9 up yours...i'll push it in further next time. okthxbye :)


thanks for confirming

im amazed how many people here ended up arguing with a 13 year old...including myself :lol:

[mubsta84]

thanks for confirming

im amazed how many people here ended up arguing with a 13 year old...including myself :lol:
does that make you a dumb 40 yr old? :rofl:

[Cunard]

does that make you a dumb 40 yr old? :rofl:

sure

[mubsta84]

sure
:no: