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Street_Scholar
December 18th, 2007, 02:58 PM
OK I say Sikhs are encouraged to worship the Gurus as incarnations of god. I can prove this by using authentic Sikh scriptures.

Visigal will try to prove me wrong...

vsaigal
December 18th, 2007, 02:59 PM
i already give up.

KurtaPyjama
December 18th, 2007, 02:59 PM
oh wow, Street_Cleaner VS Vagina_Cream! quite a clash of the titans! :thumleft:

Ketamine-Abuse
December 18th, 2007, 03:00 PM
I worship the bibi at the gurdwara that makes the dhaal. That shit is chronic and the only reason I go to the gurdwara

vsaigal
December 18th, 2007, 03:00 PM
I worship the bibi at the gurdwara that makes the dhaal. That shit is chronic and the only reason I go to the gurdwara

god bless u.

Street_Scholar
December 18th, 2007, 03:01 PM
i already give up.


No you can't give up... I've already made the arrangement's with my Sikh friend.

vsaigal
December 18th, 2007, 03:02 PM
No you can't give up... I've already made the arrangement's with my Sikh friend.

dude.

i dun see the point. im in the flacy of seeing that in skihism they dont believe in god.

Street_Scholar
December 18th, 2007, 03:09 PM
dude.

i dun see the point. im in the flacy of seeing that in skihism they dont believe in god.

They believe in a god, and also in the incarnations of god. Sikhism is not different then Hinduism. Sikhism was created as a military wing by Hindus to counter the Muslim supremacy in the region. Why do you think the Sikh symbol (Kanda) carries an image or two twin sided swords?

Majority of my Hindu friends will agree Sikhism is an offshoot of Hinduism. Which later incorporated Sufi Islamic poetry.

Sikhism is really a militia of Hinduism.

vsaigal
December 18th, 2007, 03:09 PM
They believe in a god, and also in the incarnations of god. Sikhism is not different then Hinduism. Sikhism was created as a military wing by Hindus to counter the Muslim supremacy in the region. Why do you think the Sikh symbol (Kanda) carries an image or two twin sided swords?

Majority of my Hindu friends will agree Sikhism is an offshoot of Hinduism. Which later incorporated Sufi Islamic poetry.

Sikhism is really a militia of Hinduism.

i get ure point, but i still dont.


i dun care actually.

waste this thread.

~Serenity~
December 18th, 2007, 03:43 PM
OK I say Sikhs are encouraged to worship the Gurus as incarnations of god. I can prove this by using authentic Sikh scriptures.

Visigal will try to prove me wrong...

define worship?


We see the Gurus as being teachers

PuNjabi_RaNi*
December 18th, 2007, 03:48 PM
OK I say Sikhs are encouraged to worship the Gurus as incarnations of god. I can prove this by using authentic Sikh scriptures.

Visigal will try to prove me wrong...
:rofl: I say you are a idiot.

The word of god is embodied in the Sri guru granth sahib itself.

jumpn jza
December 18th, 2007, 04:27 PM
The real question is...would anyone worship yo ass as god??





no
:Paper:

Lord_Dirty
December 18th, 2007, 06:02 PM
please post these authentic sikh scriptures

jay-d
December 18th, 2007, 06:03 PM
Being a Sikh myself.. however, I don't worship the 10 Sikh Guru's.. I worship the Amu Guru.. we're actually branching off and starting Amuism. We need 10 more people.. any followers??

Lord_Dirty
December 18th, 2007, 06:04 PM
yes
touch my feet and i will put my hand on your head and give you pyaar

jay-d
December 18th, 2007, 06:05 PM
yes
touch my feet and i will put my hand on your head and give you pyaar

OMG REALLY!? My dil could not take such an action. I will be in thy debt for all of eternity, let me bathe in thy sweat and blood.. please cleanse me of my evil RD deeds.. PLEASE AMU GURU!! I beg thee!!

punjabipride04
December 18th, 2007, 06:05 PM
Being a Sikh myself.. however, I don't worship the 10 Sikh Guru's.. I worship the Amu Guru.. we're actually branching off and starting Amuism. We need 10 more people.. any followers??
:lol:

Felonius Monk
December 18th, 2007, 06:05 PM
BAHAHAHA STREET SCOLAR FUKING CHAPRASI :rofl: :D :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

punjabipride04
December 18th, 2007, 06:05 PM
Thread.


/FAIL.

punjabipride04
December 18th, 2007, 06:05 PM
:rofl: sounds funny though.

jay-d
December 18th, 2007, 06:07 PM
:lol:

Congratulations, you've just been appointed the .. uhm.. *thinks of title*.. YES! Charoo Service Leader in our make-shift temple out of snow.. that's slowly melting.. :(

Lord_Dirty
December 18th, 2007, 06:07 PM
OMG REALLY!? My dil could not take such an action. I will be in thy debt for all of eternity, let me bathe in thy sweat and blood.. please cleanse me of my evil RD deeds.. PLEASE AMU GURU!! I beg thee!!

you are my IK Pyaara

Lord_Dirty
December 18th, 2007, 06:08 PM
Congratulations, you've just been appointed the .. uhm.. *thinks of title*.. YES! Charoo Service Leader in our make-shift temple out of snow.. that's slowly melting.. :(

your guru demands you to throw some pani on the snow to make it all barf barf thandi thandi barf

punjabipride04
December 18th, 2007, 06:08 PM
Congratulations, you've just been appointed the .. uhm.. *thinks of title*.. YES! Charoo Service Leader in our make-shift temple out of snow.. that's slowly melting.. :(
Awesome I've always fancied a leader ship role :salut:

di vinci
December 18th, 2007, 06:08 PM
Being a Sikh myself.. however, I don't worship the 10 Sikh Guru's.. I worship the Amu Guru.. we're actually branching off and starting Amuism. We need 10 more people.. any followers??


wats the benefits??


health care cover???

punjabipride04
December 18th, 2007, 06:09 PM
Don't assume everyone can ice skate!!!

jay-d
December 18th, 2007, 06:10 PM
wats the benefits??


health care cover???

We make snow angels in the winter and throw water balloons at innocent by standers in the summer! :cool:

Space-Cowboy
December 18th, 2007, 06:12 PM
Where are the Mods to junk this thread?

di vinci
December 18th, 2007, 06:13 PM
We make snow angels in the winter and throw water balloons at innocent by standers in the summer! :cool:


im in can i have a water gun :shock:

punjabipride04
December 18th, 2007, 06:13 PM
Where are the Mods to junk this thread?
they are busy playing hide & sikh what do you think :dunno:

~Serenity~
December 18th, 2007, 06:14 PM
I need clarification on this; Sikhs don't worship Gurus, but I'm not sure if Street Scholar got the idea of us worshipping them since we celebrate Gurpurbs? What made him think we do?

Space-Cowboy
December 18th, 2007, 06:17 PM
they are busy playing hide & sikh what do you think :dunno:

You need to work on your puns. :Paper:

sWeEtnDsOuR
December 18th, 2007, 06:17 PM
I worship the bibi at the gurdwara that makes the dhaal. That shit is chronic and the only reason I go to the gurdwara

:rofl: :hug:

i love u for this

punjabipride04
December 18th, 2007, 06:18 PM
You need to work on your puns. :Paper:
phock off :Paper:

sWeEtnDsOuR
December 18th, 2007, 06:21 PM
Being a Sikh myself.. however, I don't worship the 10 Sikh Guru's.. I worship the Amu Guru.. we're actually branching off and starting Amuism. We need 10 more people.. any followers??
me me me!!!!!!!!!
if i can have dual religion (like dualcitizenship) :lol:

Space-Cowboy
December 18th, 2007, 06:28 PM
phock off :Paper:

I'm going to lick you. And there isn't a thing you can do about it. :Paper:

punjabipride04
December 18th, 2007, 06:32 PM
I'm going to lick you. And there isn't a thing you can do about it. :Paper:
you're scaring me again, I'm off to read the :Paper: on the
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/m3_kal/toilet-tongue.gif
:lol:

Space-Cowboy
December 18th, 2007, 06:33 PM
you're scaring me again, I'm off to read the :Paper: on the
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/m3_kal/toilet-tongue.gif
:lol:


^^^ Toilet......... And *I*'m the one scaring *you*? :ugh:

punjabipride04
December 18th, 2007, 06:36 PM
I'm playing with you dude.

Someone just reminded me of this tune
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtILxBszyf8
Memories.

Space-Cowboy
December 18th, 2007, 06:51 PM
I'm playing with you dude.

Someone just reminded me of this tune
NtILxBszyf8
Memories.

:Paper:

punjabipride04
December 18th, 2007, 06:52 PM
:Paper:
Look you've read that paper 20times over already :squint:

Space-Cowboy
December 18th, 2007, 06:52 PM
IN4MER


:hs:

punjabipride04
December 18th, 2007, 06:52 PM
:rockon:

Space-Cowboy
December 18th, 2007, 06:55 PM
:rockon:

You are a desi. You may not rockon.

punjabipride04
December 18th, 2007, 06:56 PM
You are a desi. You may not rockon.
Go back to milking some cows you greasy haired fob
http://smiliesftw.com/x/xmaswiggle.gif (http://smiliesftw.com)

jay-d
December 18th, 2007, 07:01 PM
me me me!!!!!!!!!
if i can have dual religion (like dualcitizenship) :lol:

Of course, you're head of the Dork Department.. that only includes yourself :D

Space-Cowboy
December 18th, 2007, 07:03 PM
Go back to milking some cows you greasy haired fob
http://smiliesftw.com/x/xmaswiggle.gif (http://smiliesftw.com)


I'd rather have you milk me. :hs:

sWeEtnDsOuR
December 18th, 2007, 07:05 PM
Of course, you're head of the Dork Department.. that only includes yourself :D
lol :cheers:

i'll do my job with all my heart :salut:

punjabipride04
December 18th, 2007, 07:06 PM
http://smiliesftw.com/x/orlyflaglol_2.gif (http://smiliesftw.com)

Space-Cowboy
December 18th, 2007, 07:09 PM
http://smiliesftw.com/x/orlyflaglol_2.gif (http://smiliesftw.com)


shoooo cuteeee :gol:

punjabipride04
December 18th, 2007, 07:11 PM
shoooo cuteeee :gol:
http://smiliesftw.com/x/eek5oopsie__________.gif (http://smiliesftw.com)

Space-Cowboy
December 18th, 2007, 07:12 PM
http://smiliesftw.com/x/eek5oopsie__________.gif (http://smiliesftw.com)

http://azahar.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/lolcat-faith-heealer.jpg

PuNjabi_RaNi*
December 18th, 2007, 07:19 PM
^
you weirdos

punjabipride04
December 18th, 2007, 07:20 PM
http://azahar.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/lolcat-faith-heealer.jpg
http://i7.tinypic.com/8ghkxo4.jpg

punjabipride04
December 18th, 2007, 07:21 PM
^
you weirdos
him :yes:
me :no:

PuNjabi_RaNi*
December 18th, 2007, 07:23 PM
him :yes:
me :no:
Both! :no:

Hows you be doing?

punjabipride04
December 18th, 2007, 07:27 PM
Both! :no:

Hows you be doing?
I feel nor here nor there :lol:
Got a bit of a cold past two days my eyes feel weird now, Iwould try sleep but I'm not sleepy :no: what chu up to? :D

PuNjabi_RaNi*
December 18th, 2007, 07:30 PM
I feel nor here nor there :lol:
Got a bit of a cold past two days my eyes feel weird now, Iwould try sleep but I'm not sleepy :no: what chu up to? :D

Dwai peela fatta fat! :lol: or souf wali cha does the trick. Im good, did some xmas shopping today & now eating a paratha with ambh achar.

punjabimunda3000
December 19th, 2007, 08:09 PM
They believe in a god, and also in the incarnations of god. Sikhism is not different then Hinduism. Sikhism was created as a military wing by Hindus to counter the Muslim supremacy in the region. Why do you think the Sikh symbol (Kanda) carries an image or two twin sided swords?

Majority of my Hindu friends will agree Sikhism is an offshoot of Hinduism. Which later incorporated Sufi Islamic poetry.

Sikhism is really a militia of Hinduism.



dude no offence but you have 0% understanding of sikhism, thats not even close, thats like saying islam is the combination of juddism and christianity.

Sikhism was never created to protect hinduism and isn't a military wing of hinduism.

sikhism preaches the worship of one god and only one god.

Walktheline
December 19th, 2007, 08:12 PM
Where are the Mods to junk this thread?


I WAS WORKING!!! scroo yoo man!
someone post a pic of some hot sikhs. that's the only saving grace of this thread. :Pray:

Space-Cowboy
December 19th, 2007, 08:13 PM
I WAS WORKING!!! scroo yoo man!
someone post a pic of some hot sikhs. that's the only saving grace of this thread. :Pray:

You patak! Your Klingon blood grows then and your beard weak! Are those the ridges of a warrior or the scales of a Tarkalian eel?

PuNjabi_RaNi*
December 19th, 2007, 08:18 PM
dude no offence but you have 0% understanding of sikhism, thats not even close, thats like saying islam is the combination of juddism and christianity.

Sikhism was never created to protect hinduism and isn't a military wing of hinduism.

sikhism preaches the worship of one god and only one god.

Word - he is just a stupid nutjob & im sick of hearing that sikhi is a sect or a combination of 2 religions :ugh: lol wtf

Sikhi is an self individual religion formed by god through the sikh gurus - Even guru nanak dev ji denounced islamic & hindu superstitions and instructed them to worship god instead of considering their religion superior.

Walktheline
December 19th, 2007, 08:19 PM
whar Da Hot Sikhs At.

Madrion
December 19th, 2007, 08:30 PM
I do have some inquiring questions, mainly because i really want to learn.

What does Sikhism teach that is different from Hinduism? OH and please do not tell me read up because its AFTER I read about it that I felt that Sikhism, as a religion, does not teach anything different from Hinduism apart from *trying*(although sadly there still are different castes in Sikhs as pointed out) to remove cultural bullshit like the hierarchical caste system from mainstream practice.

So my point of contention being, Sikhism, as a religion, does not teach different from Hinduism. Can someone please shed some more light on this?

keyzersoze
December 19th, 2007, 08:55 PM
I do have some inquiring questions, mainly because i really want to learn.

What does Sikhism teach that is different from Hinduism? OH and please do not tell me read up because its AFTER I read about it that I felt that Sikhism, as a religion, does not teach anything different from Hinduism apart from *trying*(although sadly there still are different castes in Sikhs as pointed out) to remove cultural bullshit like the hierarchical caste system from mainstream practice.

So my point of contention being, Sikhism, as a religion, does not teach different from Hinduism. Can someone please shed some more light on this?


But does any religion, not cult, teach anything profoundly differing from others?


One god, be nice, worship, it's all the same shit.

Madrion
December 19th, 2007, 09:25 PM
But does any religion, not cult, teach anything profoundly differing from others?


One god, be nice, worship, it's all the same shit.

Thats an interesting point you make because I CAN DEFINITELY argue with you that Abrahamic Religions concept of what God is and what reality is and such are VERY different from the teachings of Eastern Religions. So NO you cannot say that.

Cunard
December 20th, 2007, 02:22 AM
OK I say Sikhs are encouraged to worship the Gurus as incarnations of god. I can prove this by using authentic Sikh scriptures.

Visigal will try to prove me wrong...

go for it son

Street_Scholar
December 20th, 2007, 09:42 AM
BAHAHAHA STREET SCOLAR FUKING CHAPRASI :rofl: :D :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

your a maarasi.

Street_Scholar
December 20th, 2007, 09:47 AM
go for it son


Actually \ I have the evidence. Two Sikhs will agree with me.

Space-Cowboy
December 20th, 2007, 10:12 AM
Actually \ I have the evidence. Two Sikhs will agree with me.

Hearsay from two dubious 'friends' is not 'evidence'.

jat_jatt_sardar
December 20th, 2007, 11:24 AM
They believe in a god, and also in the incarnations of god. Sikhism is not different then Hinduism. Sikhism was created as a military wing by Hindus to counter the Muslim supremacy in the region. Why do you think the Sikh symbol (Kanda) carries an image or two twin sided swords?

Majority of my Hindu friends will agree Sikhism is an offshoot of Hinduism. Which later incorporated Sufi Islamic poetry.

Sikhism is really a militia of Hinduism.
I think the military wing you would be referring to is the khalsa and not the whole of the sikh panth.

Also there is/was santan dharma, but I don;t think there was a such thing as "hinduism" back then, rather an invention of the british afterwards, but then again I would say that modern sikhism also just came about from british influence.

So I would say the chrisitian concept of "religion" got forced onto all our philoshiphies by british rulers.

Street_Scholar
December 21st, 2007, 07:02 AM
Hearsay from two dubious 'friends' is not 'evidence'.


You just need to be open-minded!

satpal123
December 21st, 2007, 08:24 AM
Sikhism is an individual religion formed by God through Sikh Guru.

God sent Guru Nanak Dev Ji to the this world in order to enlighten Hindus and Muslims that they are merely fighting with each other trying to prove that their religion is superior. Guru Nanak Dev Ji preached that one does not have to be in a certain religion to meet God. It does not matter which religion one belongs to, as long as one performs true worship and meditation, he or she is capable of meeting with God. As proclaimed by God, Guru Nanak Dev Ji introduced a true immaculate way in order to attain salvation and be one with God. Whoever followed the way of Guru Nanak Dev Ji was known as Sikh. Many Hindus and Muslims joined Guru Nanak Dev Ji and became his follower. Sikhism is an independent way to meet God, which does not derive any ritual from either Hinduism or Islam, however there are some similarities in the rituals and beliefs. Sikhism is an individual faith established by God through Sikh Gurus and it is completely wrong to consider Sikhism as a part or combination of either Hinduism or Islam.

Guru Nanak considers himself neither Hindu nor Muslim. He did not follow Hindu rituals and nor did he join Islamic law. As commanded by God, Guru Nanak introduced a true faith, whose sole purpose is the love towards God. Guru Nanak Dev Ji denounced the superstitions followed by Hindu and Muslims and told them to worship God instead of considering their religion superior.

sapps
December 21st, 2007, 08:34 AM
oh wow, Street_Cleaner VS Vagina_Cream! quite a clash of the titans! :thumleft:
hahahahahaha...priceless