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iamadesifob
October 10th, 2003, 01:58 PM
I have seen many muslims gals drinking and they admit it and they put on their profile..kind of a shame to see how this muslim generation is comming along
so fuqqq it..i am gonna start pinpointing bytches out
here one Hot maliha
http://www.ratedesi.com/view.php?i=7181
xtcshri2222
October 10th, 2003, 02:00 PM
what difference dose it make. tradions change, old ways can't survie in a new age.
iamadesifob
October 10th, 2003, 02:04 PM
That bullshit...my family been here 22 years..and we are not americanzed..just becuz u live in america doesnt mean u lose of where you came from...start drinking and fucking bitches is that the new traditon?
Azeem
October 10th, 2003, 02:07 PM
well you don't have to take it to that extreme....i think if we wanna survive were gonna have to change a bit. Look at the Mullah's in our country....they r ruining it! They have the wrong mind frame....i agree we should not start drinking and all but some things must change!
xtcshri2222
October 10th, 2003, 02:09 PM
That bullshit...my family been here 22 years..and we are not americanzed..just becuz u live in america doesnt mean u lose of where you came from...start drinking and fucking bitches is that the new traditon?
when you come to a new country,are you supposed to live in a box, why come to a new country if you reject an oppose it's ways. I don't agree with ppl gettin drunk, but i don't mind if a girl drinks to her tolerences. An where you came from is a very small part of your life, 22yrs, you prob born here or came here after you where born, i doubt you'ed be happy if you went back to your homeland an had to conform to all the tradiontions
Azeem
October 10th, 2003, 02:11 PM
he's got a point!
iamadesifob
October 10th, 2003, 02:14 PM
shri..what religon are you?
xtcshri2222
October 10th, 2003, 02:18 PM
shri..what religon are you?
none in particular, i respect all the religions. I just have my own independant mind set an view of things.
Hugo FOkkurself
October 10th, 2003, 02:22 PM
That bullshit...my family been here 22 years..and we are not americanzed..just becuz u live in america doesnt mean u lose of where you came from...start drinking and fucking bitches is that the new traditon?
when you come to a new country,are you supposed to live in a box, why come to a new country if you reject an oppose it's ways. I don't agree with ppl gettin drunk, but i don't mind if a girl drinks to her tolerences. An where you came from is a very small part of your life, 22yrs, you prob born here or came here after you where born, i doubt you'ed be happy if you went back to your homeland an had to conform to all the tradiontions
From a religious standpoint it is wrong for a Muslim girl to drink. I believe that is the central foundation in “imadesifob's” angry sentiment toward Muslim girls that resort to consuming alcohol.
Your argument is flawed because you are directly correlating "American" culture to drinking. Remember, drinking is not an integral part of your culture unless you’re Irish.
iamadesifob
October 10th, 2003, 02:23 PM
Religion is a touchy subject..i respect all religons..but when i see my own religion "muslims" drinking i think it a shame...
that all and once again i am here to express my opinion..my viewpoints...and the honest fact is that we as a whole indian society are losing norms and our traditional values...
Azeem
October 10th, 2003, 02:25 PM
Religion is a touchy subject..i respect all religons..but when i see my own religion "muslims" drinking i think it a shame...
that all and once again i am here to express my opinion..my viewpoints...and the honest fact is that we as a whole indian society are losing norms and our traditional values...
But your views and morals aren't the same to anyone elses so u can't really object to someone until you know what there all about
Sweet_LiL_Hunnie
October 10th, 2003, 02:28 PM
umar do u really think that muslims even back home don't drink? drinking is not something that happens when you come to AMRIKA and become an ABCD or something. i think almost EVERY religion looks down upon drinking, or culture........so y don't u just start pointing out all of those desis. and btw......why are u picking on the desi girls, what about the muslim brothers that are drinking? dude this is such bull crap. go pick on the hijabis on this site...i find it ODD i don't know my islam but i do know that if you are a good muslim woman and chose to wear a hijab you don't want attention drawn to your face.
Gunslinger
October 10th, 2003, 02:30 PM
i don't know my islam but i do know that if you are a good muslim woman and chose to wear a hijab you don't want attention drawn to your face.
I don't think that comment is challengeable That's true.
iamadesifob
October 10th, 2003, 02:31 PM
Gosh this is going to be a interesting thread...
xtcshri2222
October 10th, 2003, 02:34 PM
umar do u really think that muslims even back home don't drink? drinking is not something that happens when you come to AMRIKA and become and ABCD or something. An i think almost EVERY religion looks down upon drinking, or culture........so y don't u just start pointing out all of those desis. and btw......why are u picking on the desi girls, what about the muslim brothers that are drinking? dude this is such bull crap. go pick on the hijabis on this site...i find it ODD i don't know my islam but i do know that if you are a good muslim woman and chose to wear a hijab you don't want attention drawn to your face.
that's another there, alot of double standards, most the muslim men i know drink. anyhow i don't think it's bad if a girl drinks, i think the only time drinkin is bad is if you can't controle your urges for it male or female. Can't single out one tration from a conservative society an choose to ignore the other ones that you don't like, that only makes a person hypocritical. Moraly I don't see anything wrong with ppl drinking in moderation.
Hugo FOkkurself
October 10th, 2003, 02:36 PM
Religion is a touchy subject..i respect all religons..but when i see my own religion "muslims" drinking i think it a shame...
that all and once again i am here to express my opinion..my viewpoints...and the honest fact is that we as a whole indian society are losing norms and our traditional values...
But your views and morals aren't the same to anyone elses so u can't really object to someone until you know what there all about
Hes objecting to them drinking. You dont have to get to know someone to object on a certain trait in which you don't agree with.
Gunslinger
October 10th, 2003, 02:36 PM
I think the matter is pretty simple. As long as you are a Muslim, whether you are a girl or a guy, doesn't matter which gender you are from, You are forbidden from drinking. I don't think any Muslim would disagree with me. 100 % sure about that. So for Muslims Islam is not only a religion it is a culture and a way of life. Most muslims consider that first and foremost where ever they go. So Muslims are the most least susceptible to be affected by a new culture (presumably dominant) and start following all the norms of the new culture. They will have their cultural and religious restraints that will stop them from doing such. Anyhow, still Muslim guys and girls do drink in USA but then you can't say they are good Muslims.. Ciao Peace
Sweet_LiL_Hunnie
October 10th, 2003, 02:41 PM
I think a really good point brought up by xtcshri2222 mentioned drinking in moderation I don't understand why anyone wants to get drunk. I think that is the dumbest thing and i make fun of drunk ppl that are falling all over the place at a club...it makes you look like an easy lay and guys won't respect you...they'll just be after one thing. Also why deal with a hangover? i don't even get why guys get drunk, i know they have to try to hang with the men and try to out drink their friends but it's lame.
Azeem
October 10th, 2003, 02:44 PM
Why is gender in question here....guys and gals both muslim sexes aren't aloud to drink.
Gunslinger
October 10th, 2003, 02:48 PM
Well gender is at question here cuz Iamadesifob saw profiles of Muslims girls saying they drink. Ya he is right too. I haven't yet come across a male profile that says they drink BUT OH HAHA how silly lol I am straight and I think desifob is too so we only saw the profiles of Muslim girls that say they drink makes sense ? If there is to be a profile of a muslim guy that says he drinks , let a girl bring it into the discussion lol . So far no girl has done that lol
iamadesifob
October 10th, 2003, 02:50 PM
5 bucks says shaz will do it...shaz u are a sexist.. :twisted:
Azeem
October 10th, 2003, 02:53 PM
so any of u ladies seen a muslim dudes profile saying that he drinks?
ilikecheese
October 10th, 2003, 02:54 PM
well i'm not a girl O_o but i know muslims guys that drink and its a shame that they do. one of them acts more white then anything. yea but muslim guys drink for the same reasons non-muslim guys drink. why not stick to religion and be good?
"for one, when students go off to university they finally ealize that what they believed in was blind. religion becomes like father christmas, when they get old enough, they knew better than to believe in it. most have little knowledge about islam and have maybe memorized the right rituals to get by. why believe something on faith, they ask. after all we cannot seee haven or hell. how do we know islam is right anyway?"
and why bring up drinking as being suck a big problem? isn't sex before marriage even worse?
Gunslinger
October 10th, 2003, 02:59 PM
ilikecheese there are a lot of problems bigger than drinking but let's just focus on this first then we will move on to Sex. Often Sex does come after getting drunk LOL JOKES* Peace Ciao
ilikecheese
October 10th, 2003, 03:03 PM
people that cna't control themselve r just we minded. u can't say "ooh i got pressured into drinking" cuz thats stupid. me and my friends were pplaying pool once, and one of them pulls out some ___ (i forgot what brand of beer it was) from his bag that he was hidding and he startd to pass it around. i declined, and they asked why, and i anwered, and we never offered me again.
plus why drink when so many bad things can happen?
its weird in america how u have all these anti-smoking things but no anti-drug things.
Sweet_LiL_Hunnie
October 10th, 2003, 03:03 PM
http://www.ratedesi.com/view.php?i=3256
http://www.ratedesi.com/view.php?i=7588
http://www.ratedesi.com/view.php?i=6784
whassup now fob?
Gunslinger
October 10th, 2003, 03:05 PM
Sweet you amaze me
xtcshri2222
October 10th, 2003, 03:06 PM
http://www.ratedesi.com/view.php?i=3256
http://www.ratedesi.com/view.php?i=7588
http://www.ratedesi.com/view.php?i=6784
whassup now fob?
:lol:
ilikecheese
October 10th, 2003, 03:08 PM
http://www.ratedesi.com/view.php?i=3256
http://www.ratedesi.com/view.php?i=7588
http://www.ratedesi.com/view.php?i=6784
whassup now fob? hahaha well yea some1 was asking for guys that drink XD hahaha
Sweet_LiL_Hunnie
October 10th, 2003, 03:09 PM
lol y?
http://www.ratedesi.com/view.php?i=8167
http://www.ratedesi.com/view.php?i=8063 not sure about it but i saw jee and jee means yes so i just assumed he does...
http://www.ratedesi.com/view.php?i=5471
THATS IT lol no more links i don't have time to do that...but it was funny first i targeted all the alis on here but most of them don't drink but then i went to omars n haha ya buddy n then khans i did well.
ilikecheese
October 10th, 2003, 03:13 PM
lol y?
http://www.ratedesi.com/view.php?i=8167
http://www.ratedesi.com/view.php?i=8063 not sure about it but i saw jee and jee means yes so i just assumed he does...
http://www.ratedesi.com/view.php?i=5471
THATS IT lol no more links i don't have time to do that...but it was funny first i targeted all the alis on here but most of them don't drink but then i went to omars n haha ya buddy n then khans i did well. well not sure but is drinking against any other religion?
Sweet_LiL_Hunnie
October 10th, 2003, 03:14 PM
i don't think drinking is allowed in most desi cultures so umar should pick on them too.
ilikecheese
October 10th, 2003, 03:33 PM
i don't think drinking is allowed in most desi cultures so umar should pick on them too. well not cultures. cultures change with environment. talking about religion.
and plus i've seen older people drinking to
royalbengal
October 10th, 2003, 04:53 PM
drinking is fucking stupid no matter what religion/culture.. but its funny to see people get drunk :P
i am a Muslim and i dont drink not only because my religion prohibits it, but i think it makes you a fake person and you do it only because everyone else is doing it.. same goes with drugs and cigarettes
tunisnibil
October 10th, 2003, 05:28 PM
5 bucks says shaz will do it...shaz u are a sexist..
if n e one here is a sexist thats u fob. if u want to point drinking out as an issue u should call your topic muslims drinking. not muslim gals drinking it not ok for either one of the sexes. and even then u have no rite to isolate ppl for choosing to live the tway they want to. and its morons like u that give this generation a bad name.
brwnsugaa22
October 10th, 2003, 10:57 PM
ya.. theres the CLOSED MINDED BOX shrii was talking about.. how come you ONLY pointed out MUSLIM/DESI GIRLS.. guys do it alot more.. atleast in tx they do.. personally i dont drink, never have.. n none of my close friends do. i know someguys thta do, but thats there business, as long as they dont hurt or bother me whle doing it, and dont drive.. im fine... and again. its not just MUSLIMS that look down on it.. wejust are more strict about it.. bc our parents dont do it like white pplz parents do.
fattygirl
October 11th, 2003, 03:22 AM
da religion simply sayz no then it doesnt matter how MODERINIZED u get, if u write your religion as muzlim, then u say yes i drink..daz jus wrong...or jus remove da fuckin religion statement.... i hear a lotsa guyz talking bout BANging girlz and sadly, they are muzlims....gosh....very modern i guess
ilikecheese
October 11th, 2003, 03:56 AM
hey talking about it and doing it r totally different things. i'm a v and staying a v ^_^ but shhh dont tell the guys i said that its a hush hushhh
fattygirl
October 11th, 2003, 04:04 AM
rite...i talk bout 24/7..actually ma fav. song happens to be whats your fantasy by ludacris
lol
cuz it iz jus too damn funny!
but doin it...nah man...
ilikecheese
October 11th, 2003, 07:21 AM
yea i do wonder about that. like how many people actually have done it with all the talk they do.
my friends r weard. 1 of them drinks and has sexual sex but thinks smoking weed is wrong, while another smokes and not sure about the drinking part, but believed sleeping around i swrong.
NumbaOneStunna
October 11th, 2003, 11:22 AM
yea i do wonder about that. like how many people actually have done it with all the talk they do.
my friends r weard. 1 of them drinks and has sexual sex but thinks smoking weed is wrong, while another smokes and not sure about the drinking part, but believed sleeping around i swrong.
Say wha???
ilikecheese
October 11th, 2003, 12:57 PM
yea i do wonder about that. like how many people actually have done it with all the talk they do.
my friends r weard. 1 of them drinks and has sexual sex but thinks smoking weed is wrong, while another smokes and not sure about the drinking part, but believed sleeping around i swrong.
Say wha???
woops type
casual
fattygirl
October 11th, 2003, 03:02 PM
haha..cheeseman put a new word out of his dictionary! good jobbb...
ilikecheese
October 11th, 2003, 05:55 PM
ummm
sex + casual = sexual
ooh wait.. no its not!
sexual is a real word!
CrzyDesi
October 12th, 2003, 09:05 PM
I think if any Muslim drinks, male or female it doesn’t matter, the consequences in the end will be present. Most of them know its wrong to drink but they do it anyways, so as long as they know what they are doing, no one should point fingers at them. Who are we to talk about people we don’t even know? We just look at their profile and start insulting them. I would hate for someone on here to start calling out all my bad deeds, it just doesn’t seem right.
ilikecheese
October 12th, 2003, 09:15 PM
I think if any Muslim drinks, male or female it doesn’t matter, the consequences in the end will be present. Most of them know its wrong to drink but they do it anyways, so as long as they know what they are doing, no one should point fingers at them. Who are we to talk about people we don’t even know? We just look at their profile and start insulting them. I would hate for someone on here to start calling out all my bad deeds, it just doesn’t seem right. hahha well we have nothing to do but "jump" on people for their bad deeds, well some of us. plus its not like we were jumping. we were just talking about how its wrong for desi people, espically muslims to drink
CrzyDesi
October 12th, 2003, 09:19 PM
hahha well we have nothing to do but "jump" on people for their bad deeds, well some of us. plus its not like we were jumping. we were just talking about how its wrong for desi people, espically muslims to drink
I know but there are plenty of other things to talk about than how young muslims are abusing the religion, isnt there? (im not trying to support the drinkers here lol)
ilikecheese
October 12th, 2003, 09:23 PM
hahha well we have nothing to do but "jump" on people for their bad deeds, well some of us. plus its not like we were jumping. we were just talking about how its wrong for desi people, espically muslims to drink
I know but there are plenty of other things to talk about than how young muslims are abusing the religion, isnt there? (im not trying to support the drinkers here lol) well thats not some1, it was just the whole lot of them. and the people from the web site were just a few unlucky examples
Sweet_LiL_Hunnie
October 13th, 2003, 08:44 PM
hmmm i wonder where umar's been all weekend?
Chakdaypate
October 15th, 2003, 01:52 PM
Salaam guyz,
Being called a "muslim" entails "no drinking". Hence, one can't be entitled to be a "muslim" if he or she continues to drink : ) Just my thought. Peace.
Allah Hafiz.
Gunslinger
October 15th, 2003, 02:16 PM
Salaam guyz,
Being called a "muslim" entails "no drinking". Hence, one can't be entitled to be a "muslim" if he or she continues to drink : ) Just my thought. Peace.
Allah Hafiz.
Exactly !
fobby snob
October 15th, 2003, 04:58 PM
hey umar i know u from aol!!! i cant believe u are still around on the net i came across this site and im like i know this fool! anyways glad to see u still alive =)
I think if ur muslim and u drink its wrong whether its a girl or a boy! :x
Sweet_LiL_Hunnie
October 15th, 2003, 08:10 PM
okay so if you believe in allah, and that he's the only god and stuff then you aren't a muslim? if you've taken all 5 pillars of islam into your heart you aren't a muslim because of a few bad habits? Since when did ppl lose religion when they drank or smoke? it's haram ya but so is litsening to music, and dancing and a lot of the things we do in our every day life like cussing and what not....there is no perfect muslim to me, after prophet muhammed (pbuh) so there for are we all not allowed to call ourselves muslim since we all don't follow islam word for word?
ilikecheese
October 15th, 2003, 10:28 PM
Salaam guyz,
Being called a "muslim" entails "no drinking". Hence, one can't be entitled to be a "muslim" if he or she continues to drink : ) Just my thought. Peace.
Allah Hafiz.
Exactly !
not exactly.. u'll still be a muslim but u'll be going to hell X_X
Gunslinger
October 15th, 2003, 10:42 PM
depends what SENSE the word "ENTITLED" is used in. He didn't bluntly say they aren't Muslim anymore. Ciao :) Peace
Sweet_LiL_Hunnie
October 16th, 2003, 01:34 PM
i know it's just his opinion but seriously who are we all to say who is entitled to call themselves muslims and who's not? i think if your heart and your thoughts are with islam than you are entitled and you are a muslim...
cHiTwNdeSigRL
October 16th, 2003, 01:52 PM
hey... i was just passing by and reading some of these... im a muslim girl also..i have a certain mindset about topics such as these... im in america..yeah...and im very modernized...but when it gets to religion it becomes a touchy topic.. you have to adapt to the way the culture is...you cannt follow strcit islam living in a society such as america...if people want to follow it they shouldnt be here in the first place... and such dobule standards are set for girls and guys.. ive heard so many people say that..its okay to smoke up but not to drink...islamically speaking..antyhing that gives you "nasha." is haraam...so thats a load of crap...and why is it okay for a guy to drink and not a girl ? if its for funs sake..then if you can tolerate it ..then yeah... i agree w/ shri on a lot of things... ! its weird though people become hypocrites when it comes to subjects like these..its that typical muslim mentality which gets me upset...ive never drank before..but if i did..this would be the reason!
cHiTwNdeSigRL
October 16th, 2003, 01:52 PM
hey... i was just passing by and reading some of these... im a muslim girl also..i have a certain mindset about topics such as these... im in america..yeah...and im very modernized...but when it gets to religion it becomes a touchy topic.. you have to adapt to the way the culture is...you cannt follow strcit islam living in a society such as america...if people want to follow it they shouldnt be here in the first place... and such dobule standards are set for girls and guys.. ive heard so many people say that..its okay to smoke up but not to drink...islamically speaking..antyhing that gives you "nasha." is haraam...so thats a load of crap...and why is it okay for a guy to drink and not a girl ? if its for funs sake..then if you can tolerate it ..then yeah... i agree w/ shri on a lot of things... ! its weird though people become hypocrites when it comes to subjects like these..its that typical muslim mentality which gets me upset...ive never drank before..but if i did..this would be the reason!
iamadesifob
October 16th, 2003, 02:25 PM
here the simple fact..if you drink and you call yourself a muslim...you are a fucken hypocrite..simple as that.. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
So start flaming me away...
desi_gyal4eva
October 16th, 2003, 02:38 PM
okay if guys are allowed to drink how come gurls aren't were just as equal as u man u really pissed me off i might not drink but that doesn't mean other people have the choice of drinking or not its not like there ur sisters control ur family not the whole world :evil:
desi_gyal4eva
October 16th, 2003, 02:40 PM
i don't beliave that u haven't drankin in ur whole life wat cuz ur muslium u don't drink i have nevar heard of that law
iamadesifob
October 16th, 2003, 02:41 PM
look at my first post...i said in general look at our culture..meaning both guys and gals...when did i say it wrong for gals to be drinking but for guys it aight...
i mean both male and females..Simple fact is just wrong
it a no no no in islam
iamadesifob
October 16th, 2003, 02:55 PM
lol gosh i am having a hard time reading your posts...desigyal...
are you drunk lol?
royalbengal
October 16th, 2003, 02:59 PM
who said guys are allowed to drink? regardless of sex and age or wahtever i think drinking is stupid and is a fake pleasure ... and dumb retarded teens who think they are cool cuz they drink ends up fucking up their livers or even killing themselves cuz they dont know when to stop
fobby snob
October 16th, 2003, 03:37 PM
i know it's just his opinion but seriously who are we all to say who is entitled to call themselves muslims and who's not? i think if your heart and your thoughts are with islam than you are entitled and you are a muslim... We are the Ummah. We as muslims have the right to tell other muslim brothers and sisters what they are doing wrong, we do not have the right to stop them unless u are i.e. parent, guardian. We as a ummah need to let someone know what they are doing is not islamic and if they drink and are partying with non-muslims and are drinking, they the non-muslims will have the impression that islamically its ok to drink in their religion so party on! What we do and our actions reflect on other people so the best thing to do is tell the so called person drinking, having sex, that what u are doing is wrong and is un-islamic and therefore u will be sending the wrong message to the non-muslims. If we let everyone do as they please it would be chaos! that is why we have a government to control the people. That is why Islam has rules to control the people.
Sweet_LiL_Hunnie
October 16th, 2003, 04:05 PM
We as a ummah need to let someone know what they are doing is not islamic and if they drink and are partying with non-muslims and are drinking, they the non-muslims will have the impression that islamically its ok to drink in their religion so party on!
i'm sure that muslims KNOW that drinking and smoking and all that other stuff is wrong. personally i've alwayssss HATED it when girls even growing up would be like "omg are u wearing shorts in gym class" n i'd be like ya my dad doesn't care it's not like im all huccie or anything. bc also i know those same ppl that try and lecture me about islam and how this n that is bad, well they wear makeup, they themselves wear clothes that are clingy (it may not show skin but it does stick to their bodies) or like guys date girls also and do worse things with their cihcks. i dunno i just can't stand it when a muslim person decides to tell me what i'm doing is wrong like i didn't know it or something, and when i know they themsleves aren't the perfect muslim because the perfect muslim is pretty much impossible to be here in this day and age. Also most of the muslim ppl that pray 5 times a day and the girls that do cover up don't even always eat hallal so there's no way to be the perfect muslim and i think it's nutzo how so many muslims think it's their business to go around n lecture ppl that drink, smoke, dance, "party on", n so forth. they are hypocritical to me. heck even wearing nailpolish is haram islam has wayy too many rules and they are there for a reason i get it but i dunno when muslims get in my face about my lifestyle n the way i chose to live it lol it just doesn't go so well with me.
fobby snob
October 16th, 2003, 04:12 PM
^ if someone tells u something and u have this reaction then obviously there is something your unsecure about, if u know what your doing and you dont care about what they think just let them tell you and stop thinking way too much into it. Its better if someone says something then someone never saying anything even if they are hypocrites just shows u how much better you are.
NumbaOneStunna
October 16th, 2003, 06:46 PM
hey... i was just passing by and reading some of these... im a muslim girl also..i have a certain mindset about topics such as these... im in america..yeah...and im very modernized...but when it gets to religion it becomes a touchy topic.. you have to adapt to the way the culture is...you cannt follow strcit islam living in a society such as america...if people want to follow it they shouldnt be here in the first place... and such dobule standards are set for girls and guys.. ive heard so many people say that..its okay to smoke up but not to drink...islamically speaking..antyhing that gives you "nasha." is haraam...so thats a load of crap...and why is it okay for a guy to drink and not a girl ? if its for funs sake..then if you can tolerate it ..then yeah... i agree w/ shri on a lot of things... ! its weird though people become hypocrites when it comes to subjects like these..its that typical muslim mentality which gets me upset...ive never drank before..but if i did..this would be the reason
If you drink it would be because YOU want to. Dont make excuses.
Its just like the chicago cubs who blame everything from fans catching foul balls to the billy goat but cant be man enough to blame themsleves for a piss poor performance
ilikecheese
October 16th, 2003, 10:23 PM
hey... i was just passing by and reading some of these... im a muslim girl also..i have a certain mindset about topics such as these... im in america..yeah...and im very modernized...but when it gets to religion it becomes a touchy topic.. you have to adapt to the way the culture is...you cannt follow strcit islam living in a society such as america...if people want to follow it they shouldnt be here in the first place... and such dobule standards are set for girls and guys.. ive heard so many people say that..its okay to smoke up but not to drink...islamically speaking..antyhing that gives you "nasha." is haraam...so thats a load of crap...and why is it okay for a guy to drink and not a girl ? if its for funs sake..then if you can tolerate it ..then yeah... i agree w/ shri on a lot of things... ! its weird though people become hypocrites when it comes to subjects like these..its that typical muslim mentality which gets me upset...ive never drank before..but if i did..this would be the reason
If you drink it would be because YOU want to. Dont make excuses.
Its just like the chicago cubs who blame everything from fans catching foul balls to the billy goat but cant be man enough to blame themsleves for a piss poor performance haha i agree with u numba. if people say
well yea this topic's name was a mistake, should have been "muslim drinking" and most of us didn't come to america do "mix" in with the american society. if u mix in and become american, well thats u. most of us, well most of the people i know, their parents came here so their kids could get a better education, and have a better life from what they had. plus what do we need to "adapt" for? like we need to wear tight pants and short tops to survive? people do it cuz well they do it. i've seen girls with head covered, and nothing wrong with that. and back to the alcohol.. well u guys know why its haram?
tunisnibil
October 17th, 2003, 01:33 AM
i'm sure that muslims KNOW that drinking and smoking and all that other stuff is wrong. personally i've alwayssss HATED it when girls even growing up would be like "omg are u wearing shorts in gym class" n i'd be like ya my dad doesn't care it's not like im all huccie or anything. bc also i know those same ppl that try and lecture me about islam and how this n that is bad, well they wear makeup, they themselves wear clothes that are clingy (it may not show skin but it does stick to their bodies) or like guys date girls also and do worse things with their cihcks. i dunno i just can't stand it when a muslim person decides to tell me what i'm doing is wrong like i didn't know it or something, and when i know they themsleves aren't the perfect muslim because the perfect muslim is pretty much impossible to be here in this day and age. Also most of the muslim ppl that pray 5 times a day and the girls that do cover up don't even always eat hallal so there's no way to be the perfect muslim and i think it's nutzo how so many muslims think it's their business to go around n lecture ppl that drink, smoke, dance, "party on", n so forth. they are hypocritical to me. heck even wearing nailpolish is haram islam has wayy too many rules and they are there for a reason i get it but i dunno when muslims get in my face about my lifestyle n the way i chose to live it lol it just doesn't go so well with me.
its part of being a muslim to show ppl the rite way. but i know what u mean i can take advice from some one that is a better muslim then i am but it gets pretty hard when they are a hypocrite. i know plenty of muslims that i think truly are good ppl without following every rule thats in the book. i am not saying that its impossible to be a perfect muslim or ne thing nor am i saying its hard being devoted to the rules that AllAH told us to follow. i guess it just takes a lot of devotion and love which most of
us sadly dont posses. what i am trying to say is that if u r gonna tell someone what to do make sure u have to authority too do so and make sure they like u. i dont think u necessarily have to be drunk in order to have fun. and usually the kind of fun that ppl have after drinking is i think even more prohibited by ALLAH. and its bad for your health and it can also destroy your relationship with the ppl u care most about. i think
the cons of drinking heavily out way the pros so its a little sacrifice atleast i am willing to make if i can avoid all the bad things. If you are gonna drink please don’t drive my senior year in high school just last year 3 guys from our class died on the spot after drinking and driving. And the summer before that another girl from our class died from alcohol poisoning, so if you decide to drink make sure you have it under control. [/quote]
ilikecheese
October 17th, 2003, 02:05 AM
this is getting old and we r not getting anywhere. i think we should mind our own business and try to be a better muslim, or any other religion u r, and dont mind with other peoples flaws when u have ur own
Sweet_LiL_Hunnie
October 17th, 2003, 09:41 AM
i really do think that it's pretty much impossible to be the perfect muslim unless you like don't work and have no life and nowhere to go....
iamadesifob
October 17th, 2003, 12:05 PM
Shaz...noone is perfect in life...each and everyone of us has a flaw...but practicing the principles in islam like no drinking ..no sex until marriage... praying ....fasting...zakaat....can be followed out anywhere..regardless of where you live...
and honestly speaking some of you dont make no freaking sense
i will put the fingerpointing to the rest..but u know who you are... :twisted:
ilikecheese
October 17th, 2003, 01:20 PM
why do u say thats sweet_lil_hunnie, u can still live in america and be a good muslim while work. and not have a life? well since we live in america, there is a different meaning of "having a life"
kunnyfunt
October 21st, 2003, 05:43 AM
comes down to personal preferance...yaar yeh daikho apni qabur main khud to pata chalay ga na.....their life, their after life, their choice, yeh we get a bad name i know..buh like how i generally put it.."sanu ki!" its their life....i live in aust, n its wierd to see all my mates(those being muslims) do heavily drink, times change its shokin' but its true.... personally i know better, but then again like i said, it all comes down to personal preferance...
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/cdacb29f/bc/my+sketchez/__sr_/CAGR2R6V.jpg?bcDJQl_A73.w3J9v
ilikecheese
October 21st, 2003, 06:16 AM
personal preferance ... so u feel like it means u should just do it and disregard religion?
yar786
October 21st, 2003, 11:14 PM
can't say girls drink and stop at that, u know more muslim guys drink... when it comes to this - its every person for themself... i don't agree that we should have to change cuz where we live. Whats part of the religion stays part of it. For those who know the religion- its not extreme and there is a reason for why it was prohibited. anyone can correct me if im wrong but im not!
ilikecheese
October 21st, 2003, 11:20 PM
u r right. i wonder how many people know the reason O_o
himynamesmo
October 21st, 2003, 11:22 PM
can't say girls drink and stop at that, u know more muslim guys drink... when it comes to this - its every person for themself... i don't agree that we should have to change cuz where we live. Whats part of the religion stays part of it. For those who know the religion- its not extreme and there is a reason for why it was prohibited. anyone can correct me if im wrong but im not!
eraaaaaaaaa bahi, key hal hay!!
kunnyfunt
October 22nd, 2003, 01:08 AM
naah yaar, im not saying disregard religion, cuz, har kisi nay apni qabar main jana hai..to khud say khuda ka khauf ho, apnay liyai khud jahanum bana rahai hain.....yaar, times have changed...its a material world..
ilikecheese
October 22nd, 2003, 01:09 AM
just because time changes doesn't mean u have to
PreciousPari
October 22nd, 2003, 01:11 AM
:shock: (not a muslim) but its HARAMMMMMMMMMMMMMM :o :shock: berry berry bad cheez :x
ilikecheese
October 22nd, 2003, 01:13 AM
:shock: (not a muslim) but its HARAMMMMMMMMMMMMMM :o :shock: berry berry bad cheez :x whos not a muslim? and whats haram? drinking? yes i know that but i'm asking does people know why its haram?
PreciousPari
October 22nd, 2003, 01:28 AM
Im not a muslim mr cheese but I still think that drinkin is bad (haram) in every religion! Be it Islam or Sikh etc... :( Juss not good for u!
ilikecheese
October 22nd, 2003, 01:30 AM
yea but i'm asking people that r muslim why its haram
Azeem
October 22nd, 2003, 01:30 AM
yeah man i hate drinkin...why do people like messin there beautiful bodies....god gave u something special why ruin it with shtuff like that!
ilikecheese
October 22nd, 2003, 01:36 AM
drinking messed up ur body?
well it messed u up mentally .. thats why its haram
Azeem
October 22nd, 2003, 01:37 AM
no but if u do...u can!
ilikecheese
October 22nd, 2003, 01:39 AM
no but if u do...u can! huh? i dont get it
Azeem
October 22nd, 2003, 01:40 AM
you don't know you can f up ur liver if u drink alcohol!
ilikecheese
October 22nd, 2003, 01:42 AM
annd it can also mess up ur mind.. well it messed up ur mind
Sweet_LiL_Hunnie
October 22nd, 2003, 09:22 AM
bc it leads ppl to cheat on their partners even though lol we come from a strong history of men with like many wifes, and after i read this book about what rich men like to do in the middle east (have filipino servants or paki, thai, and indians n rape them) it disgusted me. Yup that book is called Princess Sultana's Daughters (i read all 3 but that's the best one) n i still argue that i don't care if the stupid saudi arabian family are royalty they have so many dirty deeds n secrets they shouldn't be allowed to pray inside of the kabbah. also alcohol can bring on fights n anger n make ppl say stuff they don't mean....stuff like that.
ilikecheese
October 22nd, 2003, 12:44 PM
:clap clap: u win!
shawty17
October 22nd, 2003, 05:14 PM
if a gal is muslim
she
shuld
NOT
drinK
fullstop.
N DA ONEZ who do n still call demselves muslimz
:roll: tsk tsk* yall messed up
but personally i dont think derez nethin wrong wiv drnkin...as long as u keep
within yuh limitz..n well dont drive if u drunk.. :idea:
i dont drink tho but i dont judge pple who do, cuzz like itz their choice
y da fuk shuld i care but yea it duzz piss me off when pple call demselves muslimz (not juss gyals!! ehem) n den i c dem drinkin n shit cuzz like itz an insult 2 da religion n dey have no rite to call demselves muslimz
ilikecheese
October 22nd, 2003, 07:26 PM
if a person is muslim
they
shuld
NOT
drinK
fullstop.
kunnyfunt
October 24th, 2003, 03:52 AM
lol ok im gunna shut up cuz i go bacardi festival wid my mates every year, i dont drink but yeah.......hmmmmmm.....
ilikecheese
October 24th, 2003, 06:25 AM
excellent
methodman535
January 2nd, 2005, 07:09 PM
:shock: (not a muslim) but its HARAMMMMMMMMMMMMMM :o :shock: berry berry bad cheez :x
Only if you let it get out of hand. So yeah...but theres people who can control it well enough. Unfortunately they are the minority.
methodman535
January 2nd, 2005, 07:10 PM
Im not a muslim mr cheese but I still think that drinkin is bad (haram) in every religion! Be it Islam or Sikh etc... :( Juss not good for u!
Lots of things not good for you. Like smokin, sheeshah, candy, overcooking food into a poison....cheesehead just likes to do baqwaas about alcohol cuz its one vice he himself doesnt indulge in. :rolleyes:
methodman535
January 2nd, 2005, 07:10 PM
bc it leads ppl to cheat on their partners even though lol we come from a strong history of men with like many wifes, and after i read this book about what rich men like to do in the middle east (have filipino servants or paki, thai, and indians n rape them) it disgusted me. Yup that book is called Princess Sultana's Daughters (i read all 3 but that's the best one) n i still argue that i don't care if the stupid saudi arabian family are royalty they have so many dirty deeds n secrets they shouldn't be allowed to pray inside of the kabbah. also alcohol can bring on fights n anger n make ppl say stuff they don't mean....stuff like that.
Yeah....so alcohol in the hands of irresponsible people is dangerous. Very complex topic, you got a kinda narrow way of lookin at it but I am not saying you are wrong entirely.
methodman535
January 2nd, 2005, 07:11 PM
if a person is muslim
they
shuld
NOT
drinK
fullstop.
If a person is a two faced bigot.
they
shud
NOT
preach
fullstop.
methodman535
January 2nd, 2005, 07:11 PM
*looks around * I dont drink *evil laugh*
GET THOSE HANDS OUT OF THE CHOCOLATE BOX!
:p
sensousglitter
January 2nd, 2005, 07:13 PM
I have seen many muslims gals drinking and they admit it and they put on their profile..kind of a shame to see how this muslim generation is comming along
so fuqqq it..i am gonna start pinpointing bytches out
here one Hot maliha
http://www.ratedesi.com/view.php?i=7181
so it's ok for guys?
and it's ok to do it, but not admit it?
i remember a post like this before, i wrote a freakin essay, not doing it again. but this is stuff that pisses the shit out of me, about muslim men.
methodman535
January 2nd, 2005, 07:14 PM
hehehhehehehe what chocolate box
http://img82.exs.cx/img82/6963/0102051244434bw.jpg
tdot_playa
January 2nd, 2005, 07:14 PM
drinkings very bad
reaz
January 2nd, 2005, 07:15 PM
lol. it's only wrong for any muslim to do so and laud it off as a muslim thing. basically if someone (a muslim) chooses to drink, that's his/her deal between him/her and Allah.
sensousglitter
January 2nd, 2005, 07:16 PM
oh yeah, and practice the religion yourself perfectly before you preach and pinpoint other people out.
hypocrites.
angelique
January 2nd, 2005, 07:16 PM
muslim guys drinking
habba habba
why just the women?
its against the religion for everyone who follows it.
i think all religions should encorporate the no drinking policy its a good thing
methodman535
January 2nd, 2005, 07:18 PM
so it's ok for guys?
and it's ok to do it, but not admit it?
i remember a post like this before, i wrote a freakin essay, not doing it again. but this is stuff that pisses the shit out of me, about muslim men.
I had some random guy from RD PM me on yahoo last night. It was regarding this thread I made of a girl who happened to be hindu....and she had underwear pics of hers up. For no reason whatsoever the guy starts preaching to me that the girl was "not muslim" because she posted those pics.
I agree, these e-mullahs are totally so freakin annoying. I told the guy she was not muslim PERIOD. Some people just wanna preach this crap to feel better about themselves.
reaz
January 2nd, 2005, 07:18 PM
oh yeah, and practice the religion yourself perfectly before you preach and pinpoint other people out.
hypocrites.
emm.. if you demand perfection you'll not have a religion. everyone contributes. preaching is fine as long as they don't commit the crime themselves. you can think of it as informing.
what i dont like is how things like this become the subject of gossip in the desi family circle.
methodman535
January 2nd, 2005, 07:20 PM
oh yeah, and practice the religion yourself perfectly before you preach and pinpoint other people out.
hypocrites.
Get used to it hun....thats gunna be your husband some fine day. Learn to supress that opinion. :p
sarb
January 2nd, 2005, 07:21 PM
wow..this thread is really old.
who cares if they drink, makes them easier to bang. :p
SharpenedMango
January 2nd, 2005, 07:21 PM
blahblahblah "insert sexist comment here" blahblahblah blah
sensousglitter
January 2nd, 2005, 07:23 PM
I know, the e-mullahs are quite freakishly disturbing, i've had one too many PM's of the sort. I think that they feel that by preaching they can purge all the bad stuff they do out of them, or plainly don't feel that they do anything wrong.
Yes, yes...I didn't mean perfection, I just meant that if one doesn't fulfill the 5 pillars of Islam to begin with, what significance do issues like this have any basis intially?
Exactly, gossiping, back-biting is not allowed, yet it's done MOST in the desi community.
pimpkidman828
January 2nd, 2005, 07:31 PM
what the ufck is wrogn with u peeps, IF U DRINK U ARE NOT A MUSLIM ASSHOLES, its haram, meaning u are exterminated from ISlam, u ever wonder why we are hear, we are cause Adam couldn't trust Allah and had to eat that apple which was haram u idiots, CANT EAT PORK, CANT DRINK LIQUOR, assholes, u are bitches shame on ya all homos, and homos i was born here i am not americanized, dont have to change, become friends with desis thats a hint,
sensousglitter
January 2nd, 2005, 07:32 PM
I know, the e-mullahs are quite freakishly disturbing, i've had one too many PM's of the sort. I think that they feel that by preaching they can purge all the bad stuff they do out of them, or plainly don't feel that they do anything wrong.
Yes, yes...I didn't mean perfection, I just meant that if one doesn't fulfill the 5 pillars of Islam to begin with, what significance do issues like this have any basis intially?
Exactly, gossiping, back-biting is not allowed, yet it's done MOST in the desi community.
This was to Reaz btw.
pimpkidman828
January 2nd, 2005, 07:32 PM
I know, the e-mullahs are quite freakishly disturbing, i've had one too many PM's of the sort. I think that they feel that by preaching they can purge all the bad stuff they do out of them, or plainly don't feel that they do anything wrong.
Yes, yes...I didn't mean perfection, I just meant that if one doesn't fulfill the 5 pillars of Islam to begin with, what significance do issues like this have any basis intially?
Exactly, gossiping, back-biting is not allowed, yet it's done MOST in the desi community.
first of all dont tlak u arent even covered up at all so shut up, and i cant do the 5 pillars yet, cause i cant do hajj yet, and can't pay zakat cause i dotn ahve a job and i will when i will be able to afford them,
pimpkidman828
January 2nd, 2005, 07:33 PM
wow..this thread is really old.
who cares if they drink, makes them easier to bang. :p
nagin is haram man
sensousglitter
January 2nd, 2005, 07:42 PM
first of all dont tlak u arent even covered up at all so shut up, and i cant do the 5 pillars yet, cause i cant do hajj yet, and can't pay zakat cause i dotn ahve a job and i will when i will be able to afford them,
The difference is, I'm not preaching, and that comment wasn't meant for you in the first place.
But do you pray 5 times a day? not because you have to, but because you want to? And have you NEVER said anything that hurt another's feelings?? And do you get interest in your bank account?
Answer those questions, then say something.
sarb
January 2nd, 2005, 07:43 PM
nagin is haram man
T'was a joke, my muslim friend.
ShivaChrist
January 2nd, 2005, 07:48 PM
what the ufck is wrogn with u peeps, IF U DRINK U ARE NOT A MUSLIM ASSHOLES, its haram, meaning u are exterminated from ISlam, u ever wonder why we are hear, we are cause Adam couldn't trust Allah and had to eat that apple which was haram u idiots, CANT EAT PORK, CANT DRINK LIQUOR, assholes, u are bitches shame on ya all homos, and homos i was born here i am not americanized, dont have to change, become friends with desis thats a hint,
No offense but it is opinions like this that will cause people to do exactly what they aren't supposed to do... its like a child rebelling from his or her parents if they are yelling.
Exterminated from Islam, indeed.
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