FAO: The STUPID people criticizing my Ramadan Thread..

[SillyKitty]

WHICH stupid questions?

just look at the Answers and tell me that doesnt make u confused...
People have 10 different answers.. what does that say?

it says that we ALL gotta ask and know the "right answers"


you guys are Full of shit..

IF your parents taught you the right answers.. why cant you answer it with 100% accuracy? why do u have to put "THINK" or "I belive" in your answers?


get outta the thread if u dont have the freakin answers.. :blahblah:

and people who dont know jack shit about Ramadan shouldnt be even POSTING there..
I think they just have this notions of thinking " oh i must be lookin really smart now that i am criticizing these people.. even though i dont know shit about Islam" :rofl:

[taleb]

:hug:

[jay_uk_geezer]

Someone's angry!

[taleb]

Someone's angry!
hence the huggles

[CorruptNightfall]

What did you expect from RD :p

[SillyKitty]

:hug:
:giggle: haha that should teach em to try not to be smart asses

[nayeemx33]

Everyone gave you the same answers.

[SillyKitty]

What did you expect from RD :p
nothing..

just drama's.. and guess what i am stretching it :cool:


but any ways, its freakin hillarious that people there wud take any shot of "tryin to look smart" with those smart ass comments..



Criticizing does NOT make you smart.. it just shows how insecure u are about your self..

[SillyKitty]

Everyone gave you the same answers.
are you BLIND?
read em again..

[PuNjabi_RaNi*]

Lol think about those around you.

Not folk here.

[SillyKitty]

Someone's angry!
I dont play with religion.

Either u KNOW the answer or u dont..

dont give me the "i think" and then criticize me and other for askin the answers :ugh: how messed up is that?

[nayeemx33]

are you BLIND?
read em again..

Are you an idiot?
You asked three questions, only one of them had different answers which was if "you're able to wash your mouth during fasting."

Most people were criticizing you when you asked this question " Is it ok to kiss and "stuff" after Iftar?"

[**bambina**]

The answers were the same.

[CorruptNightfall]

nothing..

just drama's.. and guess what i am stretching it :cool:


but any ways, its freakin hillarious that people there wud take any shot of "tryin to look smart" with those smart ass comments..



Criticizing does NOT make you smart.. it just shows how insecure u are about your self..

Based on what Nayeem said.. I would agree that most of the responses were similar, at most with some alterations. I just said things I learned from a halqa about Ramadan that I attended... The woman teaching gave references to things we are allowed, and not allowed to do. But it really does have to do with your logic if you look at it as a whole.

[SillyKitty]

Lol think about those around you.

Not folk here.
round me are my parents.. and my brother..

and they have different answers as well..


well about the "Dua" they think its ok if we dont recite it, the Roza still counts.. but who knows? i wanna be 100%


and about the mouth washing part.. no one really gave me a sure answer..
so i dont know i guess i gotta ask an Imam.. ughh

[SillyKitty]

Based on what Nayeem said.. I would agree that most of the responses were similar, at most with some alterations. I just said things I learned from a halqa about Ramadan that I attended... The woman teaching gave references to things we are allowed, and not allowed to do. But it really does have to do with your logic if you look at it as a whole.
you talkin Bull shit again..

look at the freakin answes for GOD"s SAKE! dont freakin say what ever suits u best!

some people said that we are not supposed to use mouth wash.. and then the guy TIger said we CAN use mouth wash..

some people said that its ok if we dont recite the dua.. others said you gotta do it in a certain time..


wth u talkin about?

[SillyKitty]

The answers were the same.
:lollol: another know it all..

just check my previous post.

[CorruptNightfall]

round me are my parents.. and my brother..

and they have different answers as well..


well about the "Dua" they think its ok if we dont recite it, the Roza still counts.. but who knows? i wanna be 100%


and about the mouth washing part.. no one really gave me a sure answer..
so i dont know i guess i gotta ask an Imam.. ughh

I gave you a sure answer on the mouth wash... you can't! You get the flavour in your mouth. Apart from doing wudu, nothing should really go in your mouth. Miswak is allowed though. If you're worried about seeing people and what not and needing a clean mouth, miswak will keep your mouth clean.

And the fast is based on your niyat/intentions. Doing the dua would be better, but if you forget its okay. Just try not to forget!.

[**bambina**]

Btw, the stupid question wasnt the dua or the mouth wash. It was the 'making out with your bf. And other people posted stupid questions.

[CorruptNightfall]

you talkin Bull shit again..

look at the freakin answes for GOD"s SAKE! dont freakin say what ever suits u best!

some people said that we are not supposed to use mouth wash.. and then the guy TIger said we CAN use mouth wash..

some people said that its ok if we dont recite the dua.. others said you gotta do it in a certain time..


wth u talkin about?

Haha... okay how about this. If you think its all bullshit based on the contradictions just go to the Imam. Why bother coming here. Everyones going to tell you what they know or think they know. I'm not talking bs nor am I in anyway saying I know it all... None of us know that much.

[**bambina**]

:lollol: another know it all..

just check my previous post.

I did not say I know it all. I found one of your questions stupid and other questions by other people.

[CorruptNightfall]

I did not say I know it all. I found one of your questions stupid and other questions by other people.

Agreed.

[SillyKitty]

Are you an idiot?
You asked three questions, only one of them had different answers which was if "you're able to wash your mouth during fasting."

Most people were criticizing you when you asked this question " Is it ok to kiss and "stuff" after Iftar?"

.. and how is that a stupid question?

u are telling me that these muslims in this site dont date? offcourse they do.. so in that situation WHAT is appropriate and whats not.. i was askin that.

geez.

[**bambina**]

Haha... okay how about this. If you think its all bullshit based on the contradictions just go to the Imam. Why bother coming here. Everyones going to tell you what they know or think they know. I'm not talking bs nor am I in anyway saying I know it all... None of us know that much.

Exactly. And if your not too sure what might break your roza .ie using mouthwash, then dont use it.

Anyways, your mouth shouldnt stink anyways. Not like your eating strong flavoured food all day.

[SillyKitty]

Y'all know me, I don't hold anything back concerning Islaam so here are your answers..

Q1. after Sehri, i didnt really recite any dua's i rarely recite the Fasting Dua'.. is it ok? is my Roza still good?

Yes, but it may be deficient

Q2. Is it ok to kiss and "stuff" after Iftar?

You aren't married, which makes any relationship you have with the opposite sex HARAAM regardless if it's "after ifar" or not. I don't think your boyfriend is muslim either, if I remember correctly, and even if he was, it still wouldn't be ok.

Q3. Is it ok to rinse my mouth with mouth wash in the middle of the day? since u know we gotta work.. and stuff.. and have to meet people..

Yes, but you should be careful not to swallow it.

we are engaged.. and he converted.


and thanks for ur answers.

[CorruptNightfall]

Exactly. And if your not too sure what might break your roza .ie using mouthwash, then dont use it.

Anyways, your mouth shouldnt stink anyways. Not like your eating strong flavoured food all day.

Yeah... if all else fails avoid it all together. Its the best way.

[SillyKitty]

Haha... okay how about this. If you think its all bullshit based on the contradictions just go to the Imam. Why bother coming here. Everyones going to tell you what they know or think they know. I'm not talking bs nor am I in anyway saying I know it all... None of us know that much.
how about just say what u know.. and then leave? no one is tellin you to linger on and Criticize the questions just cuz one of ur "friends" or some stupid guy did.. thats not mature

[nayeemx33]

.. and how is that a stupid question?

u are telling me that these muslims in this site dont date? offcourse they do.. so in that situation WHAT is appropriate and whats not.. i was askin that.

geez.

ugh
You're telling me that you don't know that Muslims aren't supposed to date?

[PuNjabi_RaNi*]

round me are my parents.. and my brother..

and they have different answers as well..


well about the "Dua" they think its ok if we dont recite it, the Roza still counts.. but who knows? i wanna be 100%


and about the mouth washing part.. no one really gave me a sure answer..
so i dont know i guess i gotta ask an Imam.. ughh

Best if you ask the imam at your local mosque.

Im sure then you will get a clear answer.

[CorruptNightfall]

how about just say what u know.. and then leave? no one is tellin you to linger on and Criticize the questions just cuz oen of ur "friends" did.. thats not mature

:rolleyes:

[SillyKitty]

ugh
You're telling me that you don't know that Muslims aren't supposed to date?
i do know that..but that isnt stopin 99% of the muslims for dating buddy..

so in that situation.. what is appropriate..

FOR HEAVEN"S SAKEE!!

[SillyKitty]

Best if you ask the imam at your local mosque.

Im sure then you will get a clear answer.
yea.. well i was bored last night.. and didnt know what to do.. :lol: so i made the thread.. but i guess this takes care of the boredom innit?

yea i know i can ask the imam but that means i gotta go get ready.. go down stairs .. walk a bit.. go to the mosque.. and look for the imam..
:bored:

[**bambina**]

.. and how is that a stupid question?

u are telling me that these muslims in this site dont date? offcourse they do.. so in that situation WHAT is appropriate and whats not.. i was askin that.

geez.


I will be a hypocryte right now if I say to you 'Oh no you shouldnt date blah blah' Coz yes I admit I have/do do it. I kept my mouth shut about this coz if I did say anything I would be a hypocryte.
I am not going to judge you coz you are in a relationship. At the end of the day its your life.

All I am going to say is, if you are fasting and devouting yourself in prayers this month, try and control your horniness.

[nayeemx33]

i do know that..but that isnt stopin 99% of the muslims for dating buddy..

so in that situation.. what is appropriate..

FOR HEAVEN"S SAKEE!!

I want to meet your bf.
I want to know how he controls himself by not slapping you cross the face everyday.

[taleb]

i do know that..but that isnt stopin 99% of the muslims for dating buddy..

so in that situation.. what is appropriate..

FOR HEAVEN"S SAKEE!!
It's irrelevant,

as I stated ... if you were unmarried at the time, it'd be considering sinful by islam regardless of time

you asked for the rules, not the adherence by followers

[SillyKitty]

OK, but until y'all are married, what you're engaging in is a No-No.
Ok thats what i wanted to hear..

so even if u are engaged.. ur roza breaks if u kiss.

[taleb]

I want to meet your bf.
I want to know how he controls himself by not slapping you cross the face everyday.
I would make a remark, but it would require a ramadan warning

[nayeemx33]

I would make a remark, but it would require a ramadan warning

Go for it.

[SillyKitty]

It's irrelevant,

as I stated ... if you were unmarried at the time, it'd be considering sinful by islam regardless of time

you asked for the rules, not the adherence by followers

GOOD :)
thanks.

[**bambina**]

I want to meet your bf.
I want to know how he controls himself by not slapping you cross the face everyday.

LOL.

[PuNjabi_RaNi*]

It's irrelevant,

as I stated ... if you were unmarried at the time, it'd be considering sinful by islam regardless of time

you asked for the rules, not the adherence by followers

:werd:

That i know.

[SillyKitty]

I want to meet your bf.
I want to know how he controls himself by not slapping you cross the face everyday.
Shut up and please leave.

[PuNjabi_RaNi*]

yea.. well i was bored last night.. and didnt know what to do.. :lol: so i made the thread.. but i guess this takes care of the boredom innit?

yea i know i can ask the imam but that means i gotta go get ready.. go down stairs .. walk a bit.. go to the mosque.. and look for the imam..
:bored:

So you rather be unsure?

Sheesh khuda knows.

[taleb]

Go for it.
* Ramadan warning *

He cock slaps instead

Makes the mindless drivel tolerable

[SillyKitty]

So you rather be unsure?

Sheesh khuda knows.
LOL no i am sure now.. i think the Tiger guy got the correct refferences.

[**bambina**]

we are engaged.. and he converted.


and thanks for ur answers.

May I ask why has he converted?

[SillyKitty]

May I ask why has he converted?
Cuz my aunt told him to be with me he gotta convert. cuz my dad wont ever accept him if he doesnt.

[PuNjabi_RaNi*]

LOL no i am sure now.. i think the Tiger guy got the correct refferences.

Okay then.

Heh.

[**bambina**]

Cuz my aunt told him to be with me he gotta convert. cuz my dad wont ever accept him if he doesnt.

So hes converted only because he has to? Does he follow any aspect of islam?

I am asking this, simply because I have been in a situation where someone said they would convert if they can marry me. I said no, simply because it would actually mean nothing to him.

[**bambina**]

I think a better question would be why they won't just get married already so they don't have to worry about these technicalities...

but whatever I can't even judge her cause' I'm not innocent in this matter myself, lol, not at all...but if I knew my girl was wifey material and we were both ready to take that step, I wouldn't waste one second.

I am not judging her, I just want to know the reason for him to convert to islam.

I know people that have converted but do not actually practice any aspect of it.

[SillyKitty]

So hes converted only because he has to? Does he follow any aspect of islam?

I am asking this, simply because I have been in a situation where someone said they would convert if they can marry me. I said no, simply because it would actually mean nothing to him.
well i told him not to if he doesnt want to...

he was like..he wants to especially after knowing that we have the same GOD as Christians... but wants to know more about the Fundamental difference about the religions.

so i told him that Jewish , Christians, Muslims have a lot of things similar.. except for some parts.. like the Jewish people dont belive in Jesus being the son of God, and they dont belive in Muhammad(Pbuh).. and christians dont belive in Muhammad(Pbuh)..
where Muslims belive in Moses Jesus, AND Muhammad(Pbuh) and another main difference is.. Muslims dont belive that GOD had any son.. so We belive that Jesus's another prophet who came before Muhammad(Pbuh)

and we DONT belive that Jesus is the Saviour. etc.

and the other things.. but i want to know MORE so i can teach him more.. about Islam

[**bambina**]

So what? We should encourage any and everybody to accept Islaam, regardless if they practice or not...declaration of faith is what ultimately gets us into the garden, our deeds and everything else come after...her boyfriends case is no different.

Somebody can fast with the muslims, pray with the muslims, given zakat with the muslims, even go off to jihaad with the muslims...but if they never bore witness in the oneness of Allah(swt) and the messengership of Muhammad(saw) then none of that would even matter, in fact their deeds would be like a "mountain of ashes."


What if the declaration of faith was half heartedly? I know If you convert someone to islam theres alot of sawaab... But what if you convert someone who actually doesnt really want to but has to?

I am not saying she is wrong in doing so. She knows her bf more then we do.

[**bambina**]

And I am talking about people who actually convert to make it easier for them to marry the girl oe guy. They dont or wont actually refer or call themslef muslims.

[SillyKitty]

So what? We should encourage any and everybody to accept Islaam, regardless if they practice or not...declaration of faith is what ultimately gets us into the garden, our deeds and everything else come after...her boyfriends case is no different.

Somebody can fast with the muslims, pray with the muslims, given zakat with the muslims, even go off to jihaad with the muslims...but if they never bore witness in the oneness of Allah(swt) and the messengership of Muhammad(saw) then none of that would even matter, in fact their deeds would be like a "mountain of ashes."
THanks SIs..:)

just keep us in ur prayers..that we can be good muslims.. and yes, i had some coworkers of mine who became interested in ISLAM, because one day i think i went there after a Jumma prayer, with my Hijab on.. so this guy comes up to me asking me about Islam.. and that he has been interested in Islam for a while now..so now even more... ( i think its cuz i was wearing the Hijab, it actually draws MORE attention towards you then the other way around)

So then i spoke to him.. and Gave him a Booklet.. too bad i dont work anymore.. Because we used to have talks about Religion.. with some of my coworkers.. some are REALLY into "the Born again" this one lady every other words she says is Jesus this Jesus that..and I love you..

i dont know why no one likes her still.. :neutral:

[SillyKitty]

Somebody can fast with the muslims, pray with the muslims, given zakat with the muslims, even go off to jihaad with the muslims...but if they never bore witness in the oneness of Allah(swt) and the messengership of Muhammad(saw) then none of that would even matter, in fact their deeds would be like a "mountain of ashes."I really liked what u said here...

it reminds me of the UNCLE of our Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) he did soo much for our Prophet.. helped him in everway to spread Islam.. but he cudnt convert..

[nex_man]

I really liked what u said here...

it reminds me of the UNCLE of our Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) he did soo much for our Prophet.. helped him in everway to spread Islam.. but he cudnt convert.. Salamu alaikum [peace be upon u]


you could ask him to check this site out;

http://beconvinced.com
http://islamtoday.com/discover_islam.cfm?cat_id=6&sub_cat_id=41


its quite good for non muslims or people wantin to learn about islam.


n he's gota convert with sincerety and belief.. not just for the purpose of marriage. i'm sure u know that already.. just a reminder.




Peace.