Are men more insecure then women?

[**bambina**]

What do you think? I was having a conversation with a colleague and she thinks men are more insecure then women.

I dont know. I think its an equal 50/50. I mean I have came across guys that are insecure and came across girls that are too.

What I do find thou is that women that are insecure tend to be goodlooking

but, men that are insecure tend to be ugly... or maybe ugly at first but then they become goodlooking... just like the ugly duckling story.

You can tell I have given this alot of thought.

Discuss.

[Beefcake]

Guys can be really insecure. A lot of them know how to put on an act though.

[killuminati87]

Alot of guys are insecure, some can just act that they're not.
Its's not easy being a guy :no:

[**bambina**]

Guys can be really insecure. A lot of them know how to put on an act though.

I dont think I can be with a guy who has security issues. They are the ones who tend to get jealous/obsessive, alcoholics, wife beaters, cheaters etc etc... I think I would end up killing him!

[**bambina**]

Alot of guys are insecure, some can just act that they're not.
Its's not easy being a guy :no:

Why do you say that?

[BigCrazyIndian]

tell your colleague that she's ugly!

[**bambina**]

Guys - do you find that you have more competition out there when it comes to girls? Do you feel women tend to ask for alot and that trying to impress a girl takes alot and theres always that fear that someone else might 'make her laugh more or buy her more presents'?

I want to know.

[**bambina**]

tell your colleague that she's ugly!

No, I rather lie.

[Beefcake]

I dont think I can be with a guy who has security issues. They are the ones who tend to get jealous/obsessive, alcoholics, wife beaters, cheaters etc etc... I think I would end up killing him!

Hehe.

I think everyone, to a degree, is insecure when it comes to relationships. Most people put a tremendous amount of work into their relationships and expect a lot back in return. When they don't get a return it breads insecurity - whether the return was 10% or 90% of what they gave.

And there is nothing wrong being an alcholic. I just need to relax sometimes to take the pressure off me. I mean, its not like I act violent when I drink.

[Clueless_uk]

I think women voice their insecurities more openly than men which may show them to be more insecure which is incorrect. But women do tend to worry about their looks a bit too much..I think females tendancy to focus on things more on an emotional level gets them insecure about silly things.

Men I find can easily feel insecure around a more confident and intelligent women/man...mainly women....it's an ego or compettitve thing I beleive...the need to feel like the more superior one....which comes along way down from history.

[**bambina**]

Hehe.

I think everyone, to a degree, is insecure when it comes to relationships. Most people put a tremendous amount of work into their relationships and expect a lot back in return. When they don't get a return it breads insecurity - whether the return was 10% or 90% of what they gave.

And there is nothing wrong being an alcholic. I just need to relax sometimes to take the pressure off me. I mean, its not like I act violent when I drink.

I dunno man. When I am in relationship with someone I am not insecure at all. May I live in la la land or something.


Theres a difference between having a drink in the evening to relax and drinking 24/7.

[Clueless_uk]

Guys - do you find that you have more competition out there when it comes to girls? Do you feel women tend to ask for alot and that trying to impress a girl takes alot and theres always that fear that someone else might 'make her laugh more or buy her more presents'?

I want to know.

I wish....if they bloody thought like that then surely we'd stop nagging....most men tend to be too logical...eg why buy flowers on V'day as they are so expensive when I can get them the next day.

[Beefcake]

Men I find can easily feel insecure around a more confident and intelligent women/man...mainly women....it's an ego or compettitve thing I beleive...the need to feel like the more superior one....which comes along way down from history.

I have really noticed this with guys and can agree with you. For guys its all about what rank they are within the 'pack' ( to use primitive terminology).

BTW, not many guys feel insecure around smarter women, purely because they fail to acknowledge that she is smarter!

[**bambina**]

I think women voice their insecurities more openly than men which may show them to be more insecure which is incorrect. But women do tend to worry about their looks a bit too much..I think females tendancy to focus on things more on an emotional level gets them insecure about silly things.

Men I find can easily feel insecure around a more confident and intelligent women/man...mainly women....it's an ego or compettitve thing I beleive...the need to feel like the more superior one....which comes along way down from history.

Yes. I do agree.
But I have also noticed that strong headed/career women tend to go for men that can control them. I think its the kind they attract. To them its all about controlling their life/people etc etc... so they will naturally be attracted to men that are control freaks as well.

On the contrary, you will also find that some women tend to go for push overs. Especailly if the woman is the better looking one. She will go for someone who is not as attractive or knows that he will never find someone as good looking and successful as her so he becomes her bitch for the rest of this life!

[Beefcake]

I dunno man. When I am in relationship with someone I am not insecure at all. May I live in la la land or something.


Theres a difference between having a drink in the evening to relax and drinking 24/7.

Well. I think it gets to be like that on your inevitable return from la la land.

[**bambina**]

I have really noticed this with guys and can agree with you. For guys its all about what rank they are within the 'pack' ( to use primitive terminology).

BTW, not many guys feel insecure around smarter women, purely because they fail to acknowledge that she is smarter!

But dont you think that men tend to like being the main bread earner?

Are you male or female btw?

[Beefcake]

On the contrary, you will also find that some women tend to go for push overs. Especailly if the woman is the better looking one. She will go for someone who is not as attractive or knows that he will never find someone as good looking and successful as her so he becomes her bitch for the rest of this life!

Where can we find these types of women? :think:

I have no issues being the bitch, because I'm not insecure :p

[Beefcake]

But dont you think that men tend to like being the main bread earner?

Are you male or female btw?

I don't think men would have an issue with not being the main bread earner. I think women are the ones who may have an issue with it; since the man is typically meant to be the provider.

I'm male.

[**bambina**]

Well. I think it gets to be like that on your inevitable return from la la land.

Hahaha. I do seriously think I wouldnt be able to build a relationship with someone who is insecure, not anymore anyways. Coz I cant be bothered with the entire 'but I can change him'
I would also not like a guy who is over confident. Coz the constant 'I am a gift from god' and 'I am the best there is out there' would also drive me mad.
I admire confidence and ambition. I admire people who work hard and are secure within themselves.

[la_bele_dame]

Insecurity means to be/feel afraid of something... & we're all insecure about something.
Some can be just as insecure as women... & some are more insecure than women.
Most of them just don't let their insecurity show, because to them, insecurity means weakness.
They don't realize it's not a weakness... they don't see that having an insecurity is just being human.
Fear is a human emotion, just as love is a human emotion.
One insecurity that some of them have is>>> of saying the wrong thing, because they're afraid what they say will come back at them (afraid they'll be corrected, scolded).

[**bambina**]

Where can we find these types of women? :think:

I have no issues being the bitch, because I'm not insecure :p

No, if you were not insecure then you would not be someones bitch! You would know that you dont need to be treated like trash and be someones female doggie and get pissed on!

[**bambina**]

I don't think men would have an issue with not being the main bread earner. I think women are the ones who may have an issue with it; since the man is typically meant to be the provider.

I'm male.

I met a couple. And they work for the same company as I do. And her husband is a position below her and earns less then her. She admitted to be that her husband does not like that fact. And before anyone says anything, they were not desi.

[Beefcake]

Hahaha. I do seriously think I wouldnt be able to build a relationship with someone who is insecure, not anymore anyways. Coz I cant be bothered with the entire 'but I can change him'
I would also not like a guy who is over confident. Coz the constant 'I am a gift from god' and 'I am the best there is out there' would also drive me mad.
I admire confidence and ambition. I admire people who work hard and are secure within themselves.

I wreckon the quiet guy in the corner is the safest bet. They usually work hard and are ambitions. They may be slightly insecurie - but only with themselves.

[King Ghidra]

I'm insecure about being insecure

[**bambina**]

Insecurity means to be/feel afraid of something... & we're all insecure about something.
Some can be just as insecure as women... & some are more insecure than women.
Most of them just don't let their insecurity show, because to them, insecurity means weakness.
They don't realize it's not a weakness... they don't see that having an insecurity is just being human.
Fear is a human emotion, just as love is a human emotion.
One insecurity that some of them have is>>> of saying the wrong thing, because they're afraid what they say will come back at them (afraid they'll be corrected, scolded).

But people to let their insecurities and fears make them weak... Hold on.. you just said that didnt you..

[**bambina**]

I wreckon the quiet guy in the corner is the safest bet. They usually work hard and are ambitions. They may be slightly insecurie - but only with themselves.

Hahahaha. I used to be the loud chick in school! I admit, everyone is somewhat insecure. I have insecurities, but I dont let them control my life.

[lovindia]

su bakwas karo chhe madam

[Beefcake]

Hahahaha. I used to be the loud chick in school! I admit, everyone is somewhat insecure. I have insecurities, but I dont let them control my life.

I know your type. You then moved on and looked for a man who was not as good looking as you and was a push over. You then got him to create this signature for you, which outlines your morning ritual with him

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p84/Munira_photos/Untitled-1copy.jpg

[zaph69]

Well these days men have to preen themselves and be house-trained in the ways of cooking and being good with kids etc to impress women, so we're starting to get a taster of the difficulties girls have had historically in trying to attract men and keep their attention. It's not easy to stand out I guess, men are now much more aware of that than ever before.

It doesn't help that being a good guy with a good soul and a penchant for the deeper things in life while working towards achieving something good in life isn't good enough for girls, who seem invariably more interested in running off with bald thugs with stupid sideburns and shaved lines in their hair.

Ghetteux fableux, anyone?

[Arshy]

I dont think I can be with a guy who has security issues. They are the ones who tend to get jealous/obsessive, alcoholics, wife beaters, cheaters etc etc... I think I would end up killing him!
i own a security firm, how about that for security eh?

[lovindia]

I think its pretty much about the sam, only problem women just so feisty somtimes

[zaph69]

i own a security firm, how about that for security eh?

:rofl: Have you ever used that as a line? I'm not sure if that'd work or not, might be worth a go haha

[**bambina**]

su bakwas karo chhe madam

Kay bakwaas nathi karti!

[**bambina**]

I know your type. You then moved on and looked for a man who was not as good looking as you and was a push over. You then got him to create this signature for you, which outlines your morning ritual with him

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p84/Munira_photos/Untitled-1copy.jpg

Damn you sussed me out!

[**bambina**]

Well these days men have to preen themselves and be house-trained in the ways of cooking and being good with kids etc to impress women, so we're starting to get a taster of the difficulties girls have had historically in trying to attract men and keep their attention. It's not easy to stand out I guess, men are now much more aware of that than ever before.

It doesn't help that being a good guy with a good soul and a penchant for the deeper things in life while working towards achieving something good in life isn't good enough for girls, who seem invariably more interested in running off with bald thugs with stupid sideburns and shaved lines in their hair.

Ghetteux fableux, anyone?

These women end up on anti-depressents.

[Arshy]

:rofl: Have you ever used that as a line? I'm not sure if that'd work or not, might be worth a go haha
i haven't used it. 2 reasons,

1) i'm happy with my partner
2) it sounds really corny.

[**bambina**]

i own a security firm, how about that for security eh?

You would have me on a lock down 24/7!

[Arshy]

You would have me on a lock down 24/7!
i'd allocate you a personal bodyguard, 24/7.

[**bambina**]

i'd allocate you a personal bodyguard, 24/7.

More like a spy!!

How about you just guard my body at all times? :naughty:

[Felonius Monk]

women, bah

[Arshy]

More like a spy!!

How about you just guard my body at all times? :naughty:
i could do that, but depends on the kind of body you have, does it need24/7 protection?
Stalker alerts?
Enemies?
Ex's?

[Felonius Monk]

i would also like to bah at oprah making it ok for everyone to go on and on about your insecurities. NO ONE CARES YOU UGLY COWS.

[lovindia]

I met a couple. And they work for the same company as I do. And her husband is a position below her and earns less then her. She admitted to be that her husband does not like that fact. And before anyone says anything, they were not desi.
I guess I wouldnt like it either,women belong in the kitchen :D

[**bambina**]

i could do that, but depends on the kind of body you have, does it need24/7 protection?
Stalker alerts?
Enemies?
Ex's?


All 3!

[supremed]

Im an ugly ducking :( I get real jealous

[lovindia]

why is it that women are more jealous then men, some askt to many questions

[born2wiinn]

Both are equally insecure, Jealous...Women are just more expressive.....

[lovindia]

Both are equally insecure...Women are just more expressive.....true

[la_bele_dame]

But people to let their insecurities and fears make them weak... Hold on.. you just said that didnt you..and whats wrong with being weak?

we are humans we cant be always strong......

[Nilü]

What do you have with men vs women questions?

[lovindia]

What do you have with men vs women questions?
I guess a bf problem, or she is planning to get hooked (married) :lol:

[DasJa]

Well, it comes under the definition of what you mean by "men", and also what region you're specifying to.

Guy's who're insecure have still not grown up and learnt to get-with their insecurities.

Real men usually have a "don't give a fuck" attitude to the world.

Also, insecurity is more obvious amongst guys here in the western world, because they're told to "talk" about their feelings n shit....and because looks and money play a HUGEE HUGEE role in today's world. So anyone with not enough of either of those is destined to be insecure.

Overall though, i'd definitely say chix are way more insecure than guys. It's really easy to say s'thing to a girl and make her question herself, her actions and everthing she does. For guys, it's mostly about drinking and fighting at the end of the night. Men are just more logical and aggressive, hence...NOT :nuts: and emotionally volcanic.

[**bambina**]

Well, it comes under the definition of what you mean by "men", and also what region you're specifying to.

Guy's who're insecure have still not grown up and learnt to get-with their insecurities.

Real men usually have a "don't give a fuck" attitude to the world.

Also, insecurity is more obvious amongst guys here in the western world, because they're told to "talk" about their feelings n shit....and because looks and money play a HUGEE HUGEE role in today's world. So anyone with not enough of either of those is destined to be insecure.

Overall though, i'd definitely say chix are way more insecure than guys. It's really easy to say s'thing to a girl and make her question herself, her actions and everthing she does. For guys, it's mostly about drinking and fighting at the end of the night. Men are just more logical and aggressive, hence...NOT :nuts: and emotionally volcanic.

I dont agree with with you. Men dont always think with logic. And when I talk about men, I talk about over 25 yr olds, coz majority of under 25 yr olds are immature little twats.

I still think men and women are equally insecure.

[**bambina**]

and whats wrong with being weak?

we are humans we cant be always strong......

Its not about being strong, its about letting your insecurities rule your life and actually destroying relationships.

[Nilü]

I guess a bf problem, or she is planning to get hooked (married) :lol:
Lolzz hm...could be

[Arshy]

All 3!
you got it, when dya want me to start working for ya?

[DasJa]

I dont agree with with you. Men dont always think with logic. And when I talk about men, I talk about over 25 yr olds, coz majority of under 25 yr olds are immature little twats.

I still think men and women are equally insecure.
I don't. I always think men are more logical then women.

[**bambina**]

I guess a bf problem, or she is planning to get hooked (married) :lol:

Hahahahahaha... no... I dont have any bf problem and no plans to get hooked up either.

[Nilü]

So...this madam is single ;)

[la_bele_dame]

Its not about being strong, its about letting your insecurities rule your life and actually destroying relationships.

now what your talking about it 2 different things

1- everyone is insecure and thus considered weak - which is ok

2. letting the insecurity take over your life - which is not ok

what i said was related to 1. being insecure is common and what dasja said it depends on regions i disagree. it might depend on regions based on what are they insecure about, since in the western countries - looks and money are given high priority. but in the eastern countries - money and intelligence is given high priority - which can lead to insecurity commonly found in men.

Now letting that insecurity take over your life - thats unacceptable.

[**bambina**]

you got it, when dya want me to start working for ya?

Tonight.

[HeAvYmAcHiNeGuN]

anybody can b insecure
whether a gal or a guy

[**bambina**]

I don't. I always think men are more logical then women.

We can go on forever about how 'I dont' and how 'you dont'.
I think we just have different opinions on this matter which is perfectly fine.

[**bambina**]

So...this madam is single ;)

I did not say that ;)

[Nilü]

anybody can b insecure
whether a gal or a guy
Yep, aja mei tere gudh banawa :p

[**bambina**]

now what your talking about it 2 different things

1- everyone is insecure and thus considered weak - which is ok

2. letting the insecurity take over your life - which is not ok

what i said was related to 1. being insecure is common and what dasja said it depends on regions i disagree. it might depend on regions based on what are they insecure about, since in the western countries - looks and money are given high priority. but in the eastern countries - money and intelligence is given high priority - which can lead to insecurity commonly found in men.

Now letting that insecurity take over your life - thats unacceptable.

Yeah, I meant number 2.

[DasJa]

now what your talking about it 2 different things

1- everyone is insecure and thus considered weak - which is ok

2. letting the insecurity take over your life - which is not ok

what i said was related to 1. being insecure is common and what dasja said it depends on regions i disagree. it might depend on regions based on what are they insecure about, since in the western countries - looks and money are given high priority. but in the eastern countries - money and intelligence is given high priority - which can lead to insecurity commonly found in men.

Now letting that insecurity take over your life - thats unacceptable.
Agreed. But over here, looks and money take such vital importance in society, that women are ready to leave long-time bf's/fiances/husbands...despite being with them for years et al. In Eastern countries, the practice of leaving the man because he's down on money, or not as "intelligent" (as you've put it), is not widespread at all. It's our culture :dunno:

[**bambina**]

Agreed. But over here, looks and money take such vital importance in society, that women are ready to leave long-time bf's/fiances/husbands...despite being with them for years et al. In Eastern countries, the practice of leaving the man because he's down on money, or not as "intelligent" (as you've put it), is not widespread at all. It's our culture :dunno:

How a bout when men are ready to leave their gf/wifes after 20 something years for a younger woman?

It swings both ways.

[Arshy]

Tonight.
ok i'll iron my black suit then.

[**bambina**]

ok i'll iron my black suit then.

i rather you come dressed in leather.

[lovindia]

Hahahahahaha... no... I dont have any bf problem and no plans to get hooked up either.
how old are you now, I think its about time

[**bambina**]

how old are you now, I think its about time

Chup. You sound like my dad.

[Arshy]

i rather you come dressed in leather.

i can't chase anybody in leather, it tends to slow me down.

[DasJa]

How a bout when men are ready to leave their gf/wifes after 20 something years for a younger woman?

It swings both ways.
Umm...ok. I was implying to her how insecurities rise among men here. I agree it swings both ways, I never doubted that ...so I dont really know what you wanted to say by the above point. :dunno:

[**bambina**]

i can't chase anybody in leather, it tends to slow me down.

I enjoy the squeeky noise thou.

[Arshy]

I enjoy the squeeky noise thou.
i thought you wanted me to protect you?

it sounds like you are hiring me for your personal entertainment.

[la_bele_dame]

Agreed. But over here, looks and money take such vital importance in society, that women are ready to leave long-time bf's/fiances/husbands...despite being with them for years et al. In Eastern countries, the practice of leaving the man because he's down on money, or not as "intelligent" (as you've put it), is not widespread at all. It's our culture :dunno:
abhi it wasnt the culture before in eastern countries as well

time changes ppl and society changes ppl

what use to happen in india 20 years back doesnt happen anymore

ppl have started to leave their spouses for better deals.....
its life and change is part of it.

and because of this insecurities has within men and women has rised from what it use to be

[lovindia]

Chup. You sound like my dad.
:cheers: daddy is alway righthttp://www.insaneheat.com/Smileys/Special/wink.gif

[DasJa]

abhi it wasnt the culture before in eastern countries as well

time changes ppl and society changes ppl

what use to happen in india 20 years back doesnt happen anymore

ppl have started to leave their spouses for better deals.....
its life and change is part of it.

and because of this insecurities has within men and women has rised from what it use to be
I agree time has changed and society is consistently evolving. Still, you compare the divorce rate of India (just above 10%) to lets say America (above 50%) mark...and you'll see it's at a much much lower rate.

I'm NOT saying men are NOT insecure, i'm not saying women DON'T leave men in Eastern countries,...i'm stating the reasons why it's lesser than in western countries.

[**bambina**]

Umm...ok. I was implying to her how insecurities rise among men here. I agree it swings both ways, I never doubted that ...so I dont really know what you wanted to say by the above point. :dunno:


I was just giving an example to why men would leave a long term partner.

Heres to why this question has come up in the first place.

I worked with someone yesturday and she just blurted out all her marital problems to me. I was abit shocked and didnt really know what you say coz I cant really show any empathy as I havnt been married!

So, she went on to tell me that shes going to leave him after 25 years coz he just cant seem to get moving on from his insecrurities. In the recent years hes become an alcoholic, hes been abusive - verbally and physically. He puts her down constantly. He accuses her of having affairs when she clearly isnt.

So, ofcourse I asked her as to why shes stayed with him for so long and why is she deciding to leave him... she told me 'Coz of the kids'.

She also started telling me about how he wasnt very attractive before. So to which I asked her 'why did she marry him?'

She then admitted that she had her own insecrurity at that point and felt that if she was with someone less attractive then her then she would be happy. As in the past her more attractive boyfriend's had not been very nice to her.

I told her that I am in no place to advice her coz shes old enough. But I persoanlly would not have married someone being so insecure myself knowing that the person that I am marrying is very insecure themself.

Ok, that was long and I dunno where I am going with this but its been on my mind. But the question of security popped in my head.

[**bambina**]

I agree time has changed and society is consistently evolving. Still, you compare the divorce rate of India (just above 10%) to lets say America (above 50%) mark...and you'll see it's at a much much lower rate.

I'm NOT saying men are NOT insecure, i'm not saying women DON'T leave men in Eastern countries,...i'm stating the reasons why it's lesser than in western countries.

I think Abhi, back home women wont just leave their husband's 'like that'. They will put a blind eye to alot of things. Simply because of 'where will they go if they leave him'.

I remember having a talk with my nanima about this last year and in her mind set, a woman should put up with everything a man throws at her. Wether its love or violence. She also told me that if a man sleeps with another woman, the wife should not leave him.
She said all this coz she was born and bought up in that way. I told her, I would not put up with violence/ abuse and cheating.

[Arshy]

She's a Maneater, make you work hard
Make you spend hard.

[ancient_warrior]

What do you think? I was having a conversation with a colleague and she thinks men are more insecure then women.

I dont know. I think its an equal 50/50. I mean I have came across guys that are insecure and came across girls that are too.

What I do find thou is that women that are insecure tend to be goodlooking

but, men that are insecure tend to be ugly... or maybe ugly at first but then they become goodlooking... just like the ugly duckling story.

You can tell I have given this alot of thought.

Discuss.

I disagree. Women are insecure and superficial by a large margin. Now this is not to stereotype that all women are like that. But cmon relatively.
They constantly need assurance on whether they look good or lost weight or gained weight. If U tell them truth that gained weight then U are fuccked. I mean Jessuz Christ tha weight scale don't lie.

I just tell them they still look good even though they gained weight to make em feel better.

Little too much for makeup time also for them.

What happened to good old days when women didn't wear makeup or sit in front of mirror for hours immersed in themselves.

Beauty is natural within and without. When will they come to their senses? :rolleyes:

[Angel_Face_K]

I can make someone insecure by just looking at them :cool:

[DasJa]

I think Abhi, back home women wont just leave their husband's 'like that'. They will put a blind eye to alot of things. Simply because of 'where will they go if they leave him'.

I remember having a talk with my nanima about this last year and in her mind set, a woman should put up with everything a man throws at her. Wether its love or violence. She also told me that if a man sleeps with another woman, the wife should not leave him.
She said all this coz she was born and bought up in that way. I told her, I would not put up with violence/ abuse and cheating.
a) You're nanima has her thoughts about marriage, because she's from an era...where we weren't even independent yet. So if she has only little wants from life, that's her prerogative.

b) Cheating and fooling around is not as common in India as it is over here.

c) Competition is not the keyword of life. In America/UK/western countries, competition is key. Everything is up for grabs. In India, THAT mentality still does not prevail.

[**bambina**]

a) You're nanima has her thoughts about marriage, because she's from an era...where we weren't even independent yet. So if she has only little wants from life, that's her prerogative.

b) Cheating and fooling around is not as common in India as it is over here.

c) Competition is not the keyword of life. In America/UK/western countries, competition is key. Everything is up for grabs. In India, THAT mentality still does not prevail.


I disagree. Unfortunately, I have seen many things in India that I dont want to see. Even when I studied there as a kid. Soo much shit went on in this little town I lived in. Lets not even talk about the cities. The thing is, in India these things happen behind close doors. Now I have not only heard, but seen things with my own eyes.

[Angel_Face_K]

a) You're nanima has her thoughts about marriage, because she's from an era...where we weren't even independent yet. So if she has only little wants from life, that's her prerogative.

b) Cheating and fooling around is not as common in India as it is over here.

c) Competition is not the keyword of life. In America/UK/western countries, competition is key. Everything is up for grabs. In India, THAT mentality still does not prevail.
Ha... That's because no one says anything about it.

[**bambina**]

Ha... That's because no one says anything about it.

Exactly.

And also about competition... Theres more competition in our culture coz its always about status!

[DasJa]

I disagree. Unfortunately, I have seen many things in India that I dont want to see. Even when I studied there as a kid. Soo much shit went on in this little town I lived in. Lets not even talk about the cities. The thing is, in India these things happen behind close doors. Now I have not only heard, but seen things with my own eyes.
You're saying cheating and fooling around is AS COMMON in india as it's here in the US/UK?

[Angel_Face_K]

You're saying cheating and fooling around is AS COMMON in india as it's here in the US/UK?
I'd say probably more common.

[DasJa]

Ha... That's because no one says anything about it.
Are you kidding me?? Gossiping is like, our national sport. :ugh2:

[DasJa]

I'd say probably more common.
:lol:

sureeee....

[**bambina**]

You're saying cheating and fooling around is AS COMMON in india as it's here in the US/UK?

It is very common. Some of it disgusts me coz its within family.

[Angel_Face_K]

Are you kidding me?? Gossiping is like, our national sport. :ugh2:
Yeah but no wife is going to admit to anyone her husbands cheating... Maybe 1/10 would because they're doing it as well and because all her mates are too. High life social butterflies mostly.

[lovindia]

I disagree. Unfortunately, I have seen many things in India that I dont want to see. Even when I studied there as a kid. Soo much shit went on in this little town I lived in. Lets not even talk about the cities. The thing is, in India these things happen behind close doors. Now I have not only heard, but seen things with my own eyes.
which city, what the name of the town

[**bambina**]

Are you kidding me?? Gossiping is like, our national sport. :ugh2:

LOL.

But like I said Abhi, I have seen things. And I was honestly suprised. Not plesantly ofcourse.

[**bambina**]

which city, what the name of the town

I am not telling you. Its near Surat. :p

[Angel_Face_K]

:lol:

sureeee....
Of course it is! So many people just have one night stands and what not because marriage isn't about love it's about the right thing to do

[la_bele_dame]

You're saying cheating and fooling around is AS COMMON in india as it's here in the US/UK?

I will have to agree with them.... cheating and fooling around is very much alive in india - and has been for a long time.....

[lovindia]

I am not telling you. Its near Surat. :p
:lol: why not, I guess u are afrade the we might be related

[**bambina**]

Of course it is! So many people just have one night stands and what not because marriage isn't about love it's about the right thing to do

I remember being chased by police coz my friend took me to the beach at night only coz I wanted to see the moon. I get this police officer asking me all these questions. I said 'This is India, ppl dont do the dirty dirty before marriage!' He said - 'Maaadaaaam, you know how high abortion rate has gone up in India, and even married ppl come with other ppl at night to the beach!'

[**bambina**]

:lol: why not, I guess u are afrade the we might be related

Yes!

[lovindia]

Yes!
:eek2: I had to ask :no:

[DasJa]

It is very common. Some of it disgusts me coz its within family.
well...is it as common as here, was my question.

[**bambina**]

well...is it as common as here, was my question.

Yes.

[Angel_Face_K]

well...is it as common as here, was my question.
And I answered that question Mr ThickShit
(A)

[DasJa]

Yeah but no wife is going to admit to anyone her husbands cheating... Maybe 1/10 would because they're doing it as well and because all her mates are too. High life social butterflies mostly.
Well, no wife will admit openly. But word DOES get around if a husband is going out and getting drunk and not coming home at night. Or if he's having a "female visitor(s)" when the wife's gone to meet mom.

[**bambina**]

:eek2: I had to ask :no:

You could be my long lost bhaiyya from Gandhinagar for all I know!

[DasJa]

Of course it is! So many people just have one night stands and what not because marriage isn't about love it's about the right thing to do
:sarb: huh?

[lovindia]

You could be my long lost bhaiyya from Gandhinagar for all I know!
Gandhinagar :shock: that sounds familar

[DasJa]

I will have to agree with them.... cheating and fooling around is very much alive in india - and has been for a long time.....
As I said :rolleyes: ,i'm not denying the happenstance of cheating, i'm arguing about the level.

[Angel_Face_K]

:sarb: huh?
Just because it's tradition to get married. Also arranged marriages. I'm not saying everyone that will have an arranged marriage will have an affair. That would be an asinine comment I'm just saying it's more common in that situation back home, because they either will never love the other or they already love another that they know they couldn't marry and the affair carries on.

[**bambina**]

As I said :rolleyes: ,i'm not denying the happenstance of cheating, i'm arguing about the level.

Yes it does. The only thing that does not happen as much is divorces and its a benefit coz its a society thing to be married in India. Its a need to be married rather then a want.

[DasJa]

Yes.
Cheating in India is as common as here in the west????


I really gotta disagree now. Apart from the fact that situations don't arise,or are yet common in corporate India, which will enable spouses to cheat on each other (we're talking BOTH sexes), I have to also disagree on grounds of culture and upbringing, not to mention those damn bollywood movies going on and on about sacha pyar n shit.

[DasJa]

And I answered that question Mr ThickShit
(A)
:hand:

[**bambina**]

Cheating in India is as common as here in the west????


I really gotta disagree now. Apart from the fact that situations don't arise,or are yet common in corporate India, which will enable spouses to cheat on each other (we're talking BOTH sexes), I have to also disagree on grounds of culture and upbringing, not to mention those damn bollywood movies going on and on about sacha pyar n shit.

Both sex's cheat in India as much as in the west. Bollywood movies is larger then life for ppl in India.

[BadFingerBoogie]

What do you think? I was having a conversation with a colleague and she thinks men are more insecure then women.

I dont know. I think its an equal 50/50. I mean I have came across guys that are insecure and came across girls that are too.

What I do find thou is that women that are insecure tend to be goodlooking

but, men that are insecure tend to be ugly... or maybe ugly at first but then they become goodlooking... just like the ugly duckling story.

You can tell I have given this alot of thought.

Discuss.

since our playing field is rd and judging from the rd community alone. woman are far more fucking crazy... oops i mean insecure.

men also share this problem in great numbers, but not as much as their female counterparts.

[Angel_Face_K]

Cheating in India is as common as here in the west????


I really gotta disagree now. Apart from the fact that situations don't arise,or are yet common in corporate India, which will enable spouses to cheat on each other (we're talking BOTH sexes), I have to also disagree on grounds of culture and upbringing, not to mention those damn bollywood movies going on and on about sacha pyar n shit.
People STILL cheat. Just don't get 'on the record' because of DIE-vorce being so taboo

[DasJa]

Just because it's tradition to get married. Also arranged marriages. I'm not saying everyone that will have an arranged marriage will have an affair. That would be an asinine comment I'm just saying it's more common in that situation back home, because they either will never love the other or they already love another that they know they couldn't marry and the affair carries on.
THAT, is an asinine comment. Not to mention hypothetical. And don't you think the families of all parties involved will come into play? How long before either the guy or the girl will not go onto a guilt trip?

[**bambina**]

since our playing field is rd and judging from the rd community alone. woman are far more fucking crazy... oops i mean insecure.

men also share this problem in great numbers, but not as much as their female counterparts.

Hahaha.. boogiewoogie. Point noted.

[Angel_Face_K]

THAT, is an asinine comment. Not to mention hypothetical. And don't you think the families of all parties involved will come into play? How long before either the guy or the girl will not go onto a guilt trip?
No it's not... If we're going to talk about the folks of Inida with all the culture and tradition you mentioned earlier, then they'll not go against the grain.

[DasJa]

Both sex's cheat in India as much as in the west. Bollywood movies is larger then life for ppl in India.
No they dont.

People STILL cheat. Just don't get 'on the record' because of DIE-vorce being so taboo
I'm talking about the level of cheating here lady :rolleyes: ,not insinuating that India is perfect and no one cheats.

[DasJa]

No it's not... If we're going to talk about the folks of Inida with all the culture and tradition you mentioned earlier, then they'll not go against the grain.
Now ur contradicting urself. Going against the grain also imply's they won't cheat outta marriage.

[Angel_Face_K]

I'm talking about the level of cheating here lady :rolleyes: ,not insinuating that India is perfect and no one cheats.
So am I. I still say that there are more affairs and one night stands and general cheating in India so take your rolling eyes to a strip club :squint:

[**bambina**]

Abhi, I used to think the same as you. I used strongly believe that due to the upbringing and values we have in India, those kinda behaviour would not happen in marriage. But then when you actually become aware of it your like wtf! I honestly still dont understand the need to 'cheat' in a marriage.


You know, cities in India have many 'swinging' parties.

[Angel_Face_K]

Now ur contradicting urself. Going against the grain also imply's they won't cheat outta marriage.
It's not contradiction on my part, it's the paradoxical world they live in. Like I said before... It's a facade for an easy life.

[**bambina**]

Abhi, we cant have any solid proof here to prove yours or my theory on this.

I am saying what I am from my knowledge and you are saying what you are from your knowledge.

[Angel_Face_K]

Abhi, we cant have any solid proof here to prove yours or my theory on this.

I am saying what I am from my knowledge and you are saying what you are from your knowledge.
Don't say that. Just tell him he's wrong and hand him a cookie to dip in his milk :p

[**bambina**]

Don't say that. Just tell him he's wrong and hand him a cookie to dip in his milk :p

Hahaha, I hate to debate without having any factual material to prove! We are just going round and round in circles.

I am saying what I am coz I have been made aware of alot of things in India from my stay and visits there.

[Angel_Face_K]

Hahaha, I hate to debate without having any factual material to prove! We are just going round and round in circles.

I am saying what I am coz I have been made aware of alot of things in India from my stay and visits there.
Yeah I know but seeing the circle that we keep playing on here might as well lighten it up.

[DasJa]

It's not contradiction on my part, it's the paradoxical world they live in. Like I said before... It's a facade for an easy life.
big words to play around the fact that I caught you like a deer in the headlights :joy:

Go watch the office (UK) :arrow:

[DasJa]

Abhi, we cant have any solid proof here to prove yours or my theory on this.

I am saying what I am from my knowledge and you are saying what you are from your knowledge.
In the end...

I = Man = Right

You = Woman = Wrong.


I can't see how you can go against logic like that :p

[Angel_Face_K]

big words to play around the fact that I caught you like a deer in the headlights :joy:

Go watch the office (UK) :arrow:
No you didn't... You keep thinking that :D

Bambina.. Didn't I tell you to stuff his mouth with a cookie? See the rubbish he's saying now?!

[**bambina**]

In the end...

I = Man = Right

You = Woman = Wrong.


I can't see how you can go against logic like that :p

Ok mister, you have just opened another door here and its not very pleasant once you walk thru there!

[Angel_Face_K]

In the end...

I = Man = Right

You = Woman = Wrong.


I can't see how you can go against logic like that :p
Now who's contradicting themselves (A)

[DasJa]

Abhi, I used to think the same as you. I used strongly believe that due to the upbringing and values we have in India, those kinda behaviour would not happen in marriage. But then when you actually become aware of it your like wtf! I honestly still dont understand the need to 'cheat' in a marriage.


You know, cities in India have many 'swinging' parties.
It does. I'm very well aware of stuff that happens in India. Child abuse, paid one-night stands, etc.

You want to know how messed up India's become. I've seen these swinging parties, i've seen guys and girls, high on extasy and drugs doing "stuff" (bf-gf of course)...and despite all this...i'll still hold my ground to say, "Cheating isnt as common in India, as it is here"

[DasJa]

Ok mister, you have just opened another door here and its not very pleasant once you walk thru there!
Whatever that meant :dunno:

[DasJa]

Now who's contradicting themselves (A)
Fine...logic might've been a wrong choice. How about we say "Universal truth" eh? :thumrigh:

[Angel_Face_K]

Fine...logic might've been a wrong choice. How about we say "Universal truth" eh? :thumrigh:
You must live in your own little universe. Beechara Abhi

[**bambina**]

Whatever that meant :dunno:

Thats your answer to everything.

I bet the next line is -

'its not my flaut that you women dont talk logic hence I cant understand'

[DasJa]

You must live in your own little universe. Beechara Abhi
:hand:...ask bambina's nanima if you don't believe me

[Angel_Face_K]

Thats your answer to everything.

I bet the next line is -

'its not my flaut that you women dont talk logic hence I cant understand'
Lol!! Ahahah you know him better than I do. nice one

[Angel_Face_K]

:hand:...ask bambina's nanima if you don't believe me
Course I believe you baby.. Course I do. Awwww lickle freak

[DasJa]

Thats your answer to everything.

I bet the next line is -

'its not my flaut that you women dont talk logic hence I cant understand'
Not really.

I said how men are right, and you talked about some unpleasant walk through a door :dunno:

[DasJa]

Course I believe you baby.. Course I do. Awwww lickle freak
Good!!!

Off you go :arrow: http://www.otal.umd.edu/~vg/msf97/ms11/gb/woman.jpg

[**bambina**]

Not really.

I said how men are right, and you talked about some unpleasant walk through a door :dunno:


:squint:

I need to go masjid now.

Takecare Abhi :hug:

Takecare Angel :hug:

[DasJa]

and that's Lunch ladies and gentlemen :yum:

[**bambina**]

and that's Lunch ladies and gentlemen :yum:

I am doing roza!! :squint:

[vishaalsood]

i think everyone is insecure one way or another, they just dont want to admit it. apparently its a sign of weakness

[Handsome Singh]

I am completely secure in every aspect of my life..

[tamil_desi]

ok I'll just come out and say it...


I'm am an extremely insecure man who is always psychoanalyzing anything and everything the opposite sex does. :neutral:


and I'm extremely good looking so that throws a wrench in your theory. :)