I used to be a Muslim....

[djscandalouz]

Fabricated/exaggerated stories some Sikhs like to run about this event, due to a lack of knowledge or trying to have a little dig at it. Allah doesn't live in Kabbah for starters. No Muslim i know of has this belief. Muslims are NOT meant to point there feet directly at in direction of Makkah (whilst lying down), its seen as disrespectful/disliked. Likewise if i was to sit on the Grand Guru Sahib, it would be an insult.



LOL....This is exactly what Guru Nanak was trying to tell another Muslim, who sadly wasnt as "Smart" as you.

Besides there is a difference between pointing and physical contact Wanka.
Pointing a stick towards your ass will not cuz a problem for you, but putting a stick "In there" definitely would !

Besides, he wasnt aware that he was pointing towards the Kabba.
In Islam, faults are forgiven.
My buddy actually ate something before the Roja was over on Sunday, but no one made an issue out of it, as it was a mistake.

"Allah" forgives mistakes.

By the way Sikhs dont fast, but we give Langar.

We feel that being a good peaceful human is better than blowing up bombs ( No Offence - Not talking about you, just the nasty Jehaadis, who fail to understand the "peaceful" part of the holy war ;) ) and then going for Hajj or by Fasting.....Just my 0.0002 cents....innit


Holy shit - I have Muslim people walking around my office.....BRB

[chicken_makhni]

LOL....This is exactly what Guru Nanak was trying to tell another Muslim, who sadly wasnt as "Smart" as you.

Besides there is a difference between pointing and physical contact Wanka.
Pointing a stick towards your ass will not cuz a problem for you, but putting a stick "In there" definitely would !

Besides, he wasnt aware that he was pointing towards the Kabba.
In Islam, faults are forgiven.
My buddy actually ate something before the Roja was over on Sunday, but no one made an issue out of it, as it was a mistake.

"Allah" forgives mistakes.

By the way Sikhs dont fast, but we give Langar.

We feel that being a good peaceful human is better than blowing up bombs ( No Offence - Not talking about you, just the nasty Jehaadis, who fail to understand the "peaceful" part of the holy war ;) ) and then going for Hajj or by Fasting.....Just my 0.0002 cents....innit


Holy shit - I have Muslim people walking around my office.....BRB

:rofl:

What a way to start of my life here.

Hello everyone :wavey:

[Logical_Uzi]

LOL....This is exactly what Guru Nanak was trying to tell another Muslim, who sadly wasnt as "Smart" as you.

Besides there is a difference between pointing and physical contact Wanka.
Pointing a stick towards your ass will not cuz a problem for you, but putting a stick "In there" definitely would !

Besides, he wasnt aware that he was pointing towards the Kabba.
In Islam, faults are forgiven.
My buddy actually ate something before the Roja was over on Sunday, but no one made an issue out of it, as it was a mistake.

"Allah" forgives mistakes.

By the way Sikhs dont fast, but we give Langar.

We feel that being a good peaceful human is better than blowing up bombs ( No Offence - Not talking about you, just the nasty Jehaadis, who fail to understand the "peaceful" part of the holy war ;) ) and then going for Hajj or by Fasting.....Just my 0.0002 cents....innit


Holy shit - I have Muslim people walking around my office.....BRB


It doesn't matter if its indirectly or directly. In your anology about the stick, the intention was the same, In Islam it carries the same weight, so its considered just as bad. In Islam theres quite abit of etiquettes depending on the scenario.

Yes, Allah forgives mistakes if you didn't know it the first time.

[PuNjabi_RaNi*]

lol

all bs.. hunnie.. u do NOT look like a muslim..

so stop fooling people..

Sorry Saira.

But you have to admit that was a very stupid thing to say.

How on earth can you look muslim?

wtf :rofl:

[JamesBitch]

http://www.gurmat.info/sms/smspublications/gurunanakforchildren/gurunanakatmecca.jpg

Guru Nanak, went to Mecca to teach muslims (as well as his follower Mardana- who was muslim then) Especially Mardana, who actually believed god lives in Mecca box.

-----
A Journey to Mecca

Guru Nanak now set out to Mecca in Arabia. Mecca is the holy place of the Muslims. The Guru travelled to Surat, a small seaport near Bombay. From there, Guru Nanak and Mardana went to Arabia in a ship. After a few weeks they reached Mecca. There is a very big Mosque in Mecca. Guru Nanak and Mardana were very tired after long travels. They went to the mosque and lay down to take rest. Guru Nanak's feet were towards the Kaaba in the mosque. The Kaaba is a room in the middle of the mosque and is called, 'The house of God (Allah).'

A man named Rukandin was the priest of the Kaaba. He came out and saw Guru Nanak's feet towards the Kaba. He was very angry. He at once shouted. "Don't you know this is the house of God, you fool? Why are you lying with your feet towards the Kaaba?"

Guru Nanak woke up. He said, "O sir, I'm sorry I didn't know it. I was tired so I just lay down and fell asleep. Could you turn my legs to the side in which there's no God?"

Rukandin at once caught hold of his legs and dragged them to the other side. He saw that the Kaaba still stood before Guru Nanak's feet. Then he gave another pull but to his great surprise, he saw the Kaaba again towards the Guru's feet. He was so upset that he could not speak.

Guru Nanak said, "Rukandin. God does not live in one place. He lives everywhere." Saying this, Guru Nanak and Mardana started singing hymns. A crowd of people gathered around them. They called Guru Nanak, 'Baba Nanak'. 'Baba' means an old and wise man.
After a few days they went to Medina and Baghdad. At Baghdad a Muslim saint Behlol met the Guru.

What a load of bullshit!

You lot are kufs anyway...

Does langar mean penis! Well thats what it sounds like.

You dumb shits...fine believe in what you like...I dont give a shit anyway.

[chicken_makhni]

What a load of bullshit!

You lot are kufs anyway...

Does langar mean penis! Well thats what it sounds like.

You dumb shits...fine believe in what you like...I dont give a shit anyway.

Will you be banned for saying this ?

:rolleyes:

[mista nice guy]

why is everyone making such a big deal over 1 guy???? is he prophet too????

[SillyKitty]

Sorry Saira.

But you have to admit that was a very stupid thing to say.

How on earth can you look muslim?

wtf :rofl:
lol yea.. i was just goin with my instinct..

any ways..

i am pretty darn sure he is lieing..

[SillyKitty]

why is everyone making such a big deal over 1 guy???? is he prophet too????
nope but he is just an annoyin lier.. no one likes that..
i would be annoyed too if someone sayd oh i was a hindu and i became a muslim.. cuz i hated my other religion..

cuz most likely he/she lieing

[djscandalouz]

nope but he is just an annoyin lier.. no one likes that..
i would be annoyed too if someone sayd oh i was a hindu and i became a muslim.. cuz i hated my other religion..

cuz most likely he/she lieing

Have you slept with him or something ?
Jumping to conclusions about some one whom you dont know ... ehh ;)

I am sorry but you have such a monotonous tone......That itz boring...... :mad:

[djscandalouz]

What a load of bullshit!

You lot are kufs anyway...

Does langar mean penis! Well thats what it sounds like.

You dumb shits...fine believe in what you like...I dont give a shit anyway.

I was "not" going to say anything nasty about Islam, cuz I aint a low life about you, besides the fact that my respect for the religion will not allow me to say anything demeaning to it......

Enjoy being Yo Mama James' Bitch ;)

BAN !!

[gorjuzkuri]

Fabricated/exaggerated stories some Sikhs like to run about this event, due to a lack of knowledge or trying to have a little dig at it. Allah doesn't live in Kabbah for starters. No Muslim i know of has this belief. Muslims are NOT meant to point there feet directly at in direction of Makkah (whilst lying down), its seen as disrespectful/disliked. Likewise if i was to sit on the Grand Guru Sahib, it would be an insult.

The Kabbah was built so that Muslims would know which direction to pray in. Technically, at prayer time, all the Muslims of the earth are praying in a circle, because they are all praying in the same direction. This sybolizes unity. Strength.

We do belive Allah is everywhere but not in essence. For example when we say "Allah is Everywhere" as in dissolved within the creation, this concept is wrong and it would be restricting The Creator to "time and space". We know Allahs knowledge/power is infinite and has no bounds, i.e he does not eat, rest or sleep as He is Perfect and Absolute. Besides your concept of God is taken from Islam.

Bravo, Well said! :D

[djscandalouz]

Bravo, Well said! :D

Ya people should learn how "TO RESPECT" other religions, rather than just say that " YOU DO ".

Anyways, it does not decrease my respect for Islam;
and we can only hope that all ya ppl open your eyes and feel the love, after '65,'71,'99 weren't enough ;)

[WildWolfdog]

Ya people should learn how "TO RESPECT" other religions, rather than just say that " YOU DO ".

Anyways, it does not decrease my respect for Islam;
and we can only hope that all ya ppl open your eyes and feel the love, after '65,'71,'99 weren't enough ;)

Dude you speak a lot of crap, you remind me of truth234235432535 or whatever his screenname was. You've been speaking crap about Islam/muslims quite a bit but that's your opinion.

What exactly happened in '99? Are you talking about the bit where Pakistanis went into Indian controlled Kashmir and took over Kargil, only to be backstabbed by Nawaz Sharif?

[not-now]

I was "not" going to say anything nasty about Islam, cuz I aint a low life about you, besides the fact that my respect for the religion will not allow me to say anything demeaning to it......

Enjoy being Yo Mama James' Bitch ;)

BAN !!


well in that case your fellow sikh beefcake has been disrespecting your faith worse than anyone :no:

[CANDY23]

lol

all bs.. hunnie.. u do NOT look like a muslim..

so stop fooling people..

U UGLYYYYY ASS BITCH ewww look at ur face before u talk...
how u gonna say that
how can u tell someone is muslim or not
i am muslim and i kno it
bitch u dont look muslim at all
u look like u hindu!!!
and bitch ur too ugly to be muslim!!

[CANDY23]

What a load of bullshit!

You lot are kufs anyway...

Does langar mean penis! Well thats what it sounds like.

You dumb shits...fine believe in what you like...I dont give a shit anyway.

That is just mean
i am a paki muslim and i hate being a muslim
what bout the fact that we fuk our cousins and our own dads rape us and how we are no.1 in fukin animals...My dad raped me when i was 5 u fukin bitch.WTF U GONNA DO BOUT THAT HUH??...NO MUSLIM IS HELPING ME...
i think thats way worse than bein a kuf.. shit i rather be a another religion but bein a paki muslim...OMG!!!

[huslterking121]

What a load of bullshit!

You lot are kufs anyway...

Does langar mean penis! Well thats what it sounds like.

You dumb shits...fine believe in what you like...I dont give a shit anyway.

BAN him mods, that dam right out of order. Aint we supposed to respect other peoples opinions, even if you dont agree??
:sarb:

[huslterking121]

Its amazing how sikhs continue to say that Guru Nanak ji was allowed into Mecca because (1) he was so holy (2) he was a non muslim

Bury your heads in the sand why dont you.....non-muslims would never be allowed into Mecca. Guru Nank ji by your own admission, entered Mecca...if he was so holy, he would never lie! Therefore he would have had to be muslim...

...perhaps the real reason is that his Sikh followers upon his return, hid the truth? Its possible...everyone has their own hidden agenda. Perhaps it was too much for his followers so they hid the truth to continue existence of the Sikh religion.

Guru Nanak Dev ji, went there with the namaz book thing in his hand and a muslim robe, so he can get into Mecca and intellect them peeps in there. He also performed a miracle in there by making the Mecca spin around :)

Now thats just one of the many miracles Guru Nanak Dev ji performed, maybe you should visit some sikh sites and find out the other miracles. Unlike your last prophet, he didnt have a miracle did he :sarb:

[SillyKitty]

U UGLYYYYY ASS BITCH ewww look at ur face before u talk...
how u gonna say that
how can u tell someone is muslim or not
i am muslim and i kno it
bitch u dont look muslim at all
u look like u hindu!!!
and bitch ur too ugly to be muslim!!
:lol: i am ugly?

i think i stole ur man.. that u are soo jealous of me... look at Ron even he is happy to take pic with me, and he is a world famous celebrity :cool: there is the proof i am all that..

and you.. :rofl: aint u the chick that doesnt even know what an orgasm is? its cuz u are too ugly that no one wud even fuck you.. let alone give u an orgasm.. theres YOUR proof u are ugly.. so even if ur mom been tellin u u are precious lookin.. hunny, u aint nothing but a dog..


and stop conversin with me.. before i sing.. "WHO LET THE DOG OUT.. WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF"


any ways he doesnt look like a muslim to me..

[CANDY23]

:lol: i am ugly?

i think i stole ur man.. that u are soo jealous of me... look at Ron even he is happy to take pic with me, and he is a world famous celebrity :cool: there is the proof i am all that..

and you.. :rofl: aint u the chick that doesnt even know what an orgasm is? its cuz u are too ugly that no one wud even fuck you.. let alone give u an orgasm.. theres YOUR proof u are ugly.. so even if ur mom been tellin u u are precious lookin.. hunny, u aint nothing but a dog..


and stop conversin with me.. before i sing.. "WHO LET THE DOG OUT.. WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF"


any ways he doesnt look like a muslim to me..

ooooooooooo im soo scared now i got offended...bitch ron looks scared hes like "omg eww get this nasty shit lookin bitch off of me!!!...yea so what if i didnt kno what a orgasm is bitch???....haha U SAID NO ONE WILL FUK ME HAHAH STOP TALKIN BOUT UR SELF UGLY BITCH THE ONLY DICK U GETTIN IS IS A DOGS..shit bitch i get laid every day...haha u havnt even seen me and y u talkin bout urself....ewww look at ur face...:Pukel: :Pukel: :Pukel:
WTF DID UR MOM FUK?????????
U CANNOT B MUSLIM ..MORE LIKE SHIT!!!..LMAOOOO...THIS BITCH SAID SHES PRETTY AND SHE KNO IT...LOL..ALL UGLY GIRLS SAY THAT...:kekeke:
to make themselves feel better...

bitch u dont have to look like a muslim

WELL BITCH U LOOK LIKE A HINDU TO ME!!!!!!!

[SillyKitty]

ooooooooooo im soo scared now i got offended...bitch ron looks scared hes like "omg eww get this nasty shit lookin bitch off of me!!!...yea so what if i didnt kno what a orgasm is bitch???....haha U SAID NO ONE WILL FUK ME HAHAH STOP TALKIN BOUT UR SELF UGLY BITCH THE ONLY DICK U GETTIN IS IS A DOGS..shit bitch i get laid every day...haha u havnt even seen me and y u talkin bout urself....ewww look at ur face...:Pukel: :Pukel: :Pukel:
WTF DID UR MOM FUK?????????
U CANNOT B MUSLIM ..MORE LIKE SHIT!!!..LMAOOOO...THIS BITCH SAID SHES PRETTY AND SHE KNO IT...LOL..ALL UGLY GIRLS SAY THAT...:kekeke:
to make themselves feel better...

bitch u dont have to look like a muslim

WELL BITCH U LOOK LIKE A HINDU TO ME!!!!!!!:rofl:

ron was too happy to take a pic with me.. are u blind? look at him smiling with happyness.. fukin blind ugly ass chick..
stop talkin outta ur ass.. if any one fucked u .. its only ur fingers..
if u got fucked u wudnt have made that thread about orgasm..

you got caught.. so case dismissed.. stop wasting ur time writting down a reply.. ur too obssessed wt me.

:wavey:

[CANDY23]

:rofl:

ron was too happy to take a pic with me.. are u blind? look at him smiling with happyness.. fukin blind ugly ass chick..
stop talkin outta ur ass.. if any one fucked u .. its only ur fingers..
if u got fucked u wudnt have made that thread about orgasm..

you got caught.. so case dismissed.. stop wasting ur time writting down a reply.. ur too obssessed wt me.

:wavey:

LIKE OH MY GOD ARE U SERIOUS...??? OMG RON IS SOO COOL AND LIKE HE WAS WAY HAPPY TO TAKE A PIC WITH U THAN ME...LMAOOOOO..bitch just listen to urself ..look at way u tryna act white...LMAO...well bitch like i said ...SOOOOO WHAT??? WTF U GONNA DO BOUT IT...I KNEW WHAT IT WAS BUT I WASNT SURE...ARE U FUKIN FOLLOWIN ME EVERYWHERE N LOOKIN AT MY POSTS...FUKIN OBSESSED UGLY BITCH...omg i got caught...WELL DO SUMTHIN BOUT IT...wtf u gonna do???...even my dogs shit looks better then u ...

bitch learn to spell u dont make any sense at alll.


HINDUUUUU..:p :p

[aww_skeet_skeet]

Guru Nanak Dev ji, went there with the namaz book thing in his hand and a muslim robe, so he can get into Mecca and intellect them peeps in there. He also performed a miracle in there by making the Mecca spin around :)

Now thats just one of the many miracles Guru Nanak Dev ji performed, maybe you should visit some sikh sites and find out the other miracles. Unlike your last prophet, he didnt have a miracle did he :sarb:


he split the moon in half.... thats such a better miracle than making stuff spin....

so our dude is cooler than yours

we win... wooo wooo

[veena125]

Hell. If he say's he converted to a Sikh, then let it be. I means what's so unbelievable in this? The muslims are making it seem like Muslim don't convert. And, so what if he's lying? Maybe he just wants the attention, which he's obviously getting. Continue with your damn lives.

[PuNjabi_RaNi*]

What a bunch of fucking idiots.

[DasJa]

:rofl:

You need to shut the fuck up.

Ever heard of sir richard burton - the non muslim who entered the mecca?

The real reason why the sikh religion exists today is because the gurus chose not to convert to Islam.

Lol dont flatter yourself much.
Well said!

[djscandalouz]

What a bunch of fucking idiots.

:werd:

[Space-Cowboy]

The following pretty much disproves the whole "Guru Nanak Ji being Muslim because Non Muslims can't enter Mecca" crap:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludovico_di_Barthema

First explorations and journey to Mecca
Varthema was born in Bologna.

He was perhaps a soldier before beginning his distant journeys, which he undertook apparently from a passion for adventure, novelty and the fame which (then especially) attended successful exploration.

He left Europe near the end of 1502. Early in 1503 he reached Alexandria and ascended the Nile to Cairo. From Egypt he sailed to Beirut and thence travelled to Tripoli, Aleppo and Damascus, where he managed to get himself enrolled, under the name of Yunas (Jonah), in the Mamluk garrison. From Damascus he made the pilgrimage to Mecca and Medina as one of the Mamluk escort of the Hajj caravan (April-June 1503). He describes the sacred cities of Islam and the chief pilgrim sites and ceremonies with remarkable accuracy, almost all his details being confirmed by later writers.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Francis_Burton

Although Burton was not the first non-Muslim European to make the Hajj (Ludovico di Barthema in 1503 is believed to hold that distinction[9]), his pilgrimage is the most famous and the best documented of the time. He adopted various disguises including that of a Pashtun to account for any oddities in speech, but he still had to demonstrate an understanding of intricate Islamic ritual, and a familiarity with the minutiae of Eastern manners and etiquette. Burton's trek to Mecca was quite dangerous and his caravan was attacked by bandits (a common experience at the time). As he put it, although "...neither Koran or Sultan enjoin the death of Jew or Christian intruding within the columns that note the sanctuary limits, nothing could save a European detected by the populace, or one who after pilgrimage declared himself an unbeliever.".[10] The pilgrimage entitled him to the title of Hajji and to wear a green turban. Burton's own account of his journey is given in A Personal Narrative of a Pilgrimage to Al-Medinah and Meccah (1855).

Oh, and that angelfire site is ridiculously biased... to claim that Guru Nanak Ji was Muslim is quite laughable at best. In fact to label him in any way, shape or form in such a manner shows that you've not understood a word of his teachings.






Both religions have similar rules and regulations imo. What exactly was it about Sikhism that you found so much better than Islam? Not asking this in a sarcastic offended way but in a regular manner. Also I read later in the thread you said that sikhism was very pure for you; does that mean you found stuff in Islam unpure? Elaboration?

There are very distinct and defining differences in spiritual teaching and philosophy. As for the rules and regulations, Sikhi discourages the eating of meat [in general completely]... but if one MUST eat meat, then the halal process of slaughter is definitely discouraged.

[aww_skeet_skeet]

The following pretty much disproves the whole "Guru Nanak Ji being Muslim because Non Muslims can't enter Mecca" crap:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludovico_di_Barthema

First explorations and journey to Mecca
Varthema was born in Bologna.

He was perhaps a soldier before beginning his distant journeys, which he undertook apparently from a passion for adventure, novelty and the fame which (then especially) attended successful exploration.

He left Europe near the end of 1502. Early in 1503 he reached Alexandria and ascended the Nile to Cairo. From Egypt he sailed to Beirut and thence travelled to Tripoli, Aleppo and Damascus, where he managed to get himself enrolled, under the name of Yunas (Jonah), in the Mamluk garrison. From Damascus he made the pilgrimage to Mecca and Medina as one of the Mamluk escort of the Hajj caravan (April-June 1503). He describes the sacred cities of Islam and the chief pilgrim sites and ceremonies with remarkable accuracy, almost all his details being confirmed by later writers.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Francis_Burton

Although Burton was not the first non-Muslim European to make the Hajj (Ludovico di Barthema in 1503 is believed to hold that distinction[9]), his pilgrimage is the most famous and the best documented of the time. He adopted various disguises including that of a Pashtun to account for any oddities in speech, but he still had to demonstrate an understanding of intricate Islamic ritual, and a familiarity with the minutiae of Eastern manners and etiquette. Burton's trek to Mecca was quite dangerous and his caravan was attacked by bandits (a common experience at the time). As he put it, although "...neither Koran or Sultan enjoin the death of Jew or Christian intruding within the columns that note the sanctuary limits, nothing could save a European detected by the populace, or one who after pilgrimage declared himself an unbeliever.".[10] The pilgrimage entitled him to the title of Hajji and to wear a green turban. Burton's own account of his journey is given in A Personal Narrative of a Pilgrimage to Al-Medinah and Meccah (1855).

Oh, and that angelfire site is ridiculously biased... to claim that Guru Nanak Ji was Muslim is quite laughable at best. In fact to label him in any way, shape or form in such a manner shows that you've not understood a word of his teachings.








There are very distinct and defining differences in spiritual teaching and philosophy. As for the rules and regulations, Sikhi discourages the eating of meat [in general completely]... but if one MUST eat meat, then the halal process of slaughter is definitely discouraged.

any one can go and edit wiki.... so it shouldnt really be used as a reliable resource...


but yea... I really dont know much about this topic so im not really gonna argue here though...

[S1KH]

any one can go and edit wiki.... so it shouldnt really be used as a reliable resource...


but yea... I really dont know much about this topic so im not really gonna argue here though...

This is not the case my friend, you have to be approved and cannot "JUST EDIT" Wikipedia

[pakichik]

I still respect the 20 years of my life when I was a Muslim.
But I converted into Sikhism because it was so much better.
My parents back in Pakistan were not too happy about it esp. my dad.
y do u sound fake