Why did Bush attack Iraq and didn't attack N.Korea ?! [Archive]

methodman535

March 30th, 2004, 12:34 AM

Iraq has been under attack since 1992. The sanctions were actually a form of attack...meant to weaken iraq further and further making it easier and easier to conquer it in the end. The reason the US didnt capture baghdad in 1992 is because Saddam had WMDz to defend himself back then...so the plan was to stop the advance and negotiate a bullshit treaty with him...then fuck him up slowly over however many years it took until he had no WMDz and no real defence left and then conquer iraq and get rid of saddam and install a puppet govt. I think this was all mainly done for Isreal and to a little extent for kuwait and saudi too but mainly for Isreal.

North Korea....it wasnt attacked cuz:

1. They have the largest special forces in the world 100,000+ and those guys can kick some serious ass in land and naval warfare.

2. They got some serious artillery and can turn all US forces within 40 miles of the border into smoke in less than 6 hours. You dont attack someone like that without planning and I think I read in the news that the US forces are now sneaking a lot further south of the border for this very reason, leaving the south koreans to defend there.

3. They got missiles and WMDz to pack onto the missiles which means they can turn all the US bases in the pacific area into radiactive toast, either with conventional nukes or a dirty bomb....depends what they have. They also got special forces that can deliver WMDz via submarine or aircraft or even land very very efficiently.

4. They arent a thorn in Isreal's ass.

5. The US couldnt really get North Korea's neighbors pissed off enough at it cuz most of those east asian countries want the us to take its ass out of the area soon anyway. Exception of course would be Taiwan and maybe S. Korea. S. Korea doesnt want the US creating mischief around there either.

6. Theres no oil in S. Korea...if its conquered then the only benefit is that a small sized player in the international arms market gets eliminated. Nothing else so its not that feasable a business decision.

paulie walnuts

March 30th, 2004, 12:49 AM

Simple, we would have gotten heavy resistance from north korea, it would have been real ugly. On the other hand, the Iraqi army rolled over in 2 seconds, and we knew it.

Zee DaDDy

March 30th, 2004, 01:06 AM

north korea doesnt have any oil.Agreed.. Add that The United States Goverment knew that there were none of that nuclear weapons in Iraq... They did all that because of the oil !!! It's just a game that the U.S goverment was playing in those Arabian presidents i.e. fools !!!!!!

DesiStud1022

March 30th, 2004, 01:35 AM

America hates Muslims.

There arent that many muslims in N.Korea.

desispeed

March 30th, 2004, 01:52 AM

is this a serious question???? forget the oil, just look at the geographic location and the next big superpower in the world who is also a next door neighbor(China), why would u want to irritate them?? North Korea is in pathetic shape right so they try to hold the world hostage with their nuke threats. Their leader is a mad man who will not hesitate to lay waste to the south and at the same time let his nation be decimated. The western strategy which they believe will come to fruition is let N Korea rot internally and destabalize to a point where Kim Jong Il will be kicked out(slim chance). China themselves are sick of N Korea but are willing to side with them on issues just to counterpoint the West's influence in the area. These are but a few of the factors behind our handling of the Koreans so far

kawiboy

March 30th, 2004, 06:06 PM

Israel didn't authorize it...

aliG

April 2nd, 2004, 10:39 PM

fun

Biggie iz back

April 6th, 2004, 11:45 AM

BUCH IZ FAGG

kunnyfunt

April 7th, 2004, 03:09 AM

so true...i agree with method man.......makes sence..hey i didnt know about the n.k. special services number....woh! they'r capable of kicking sum seriouse U.S. ass! that could hurt the states' economy pretty bad if any thing went shifty...

gagan512

April 7th, 2004, 04:41 AM

cuz..

1. they're not muslim
2. they have a stronger military than iraq
3. they have no oil
4. they have nothing to do with israel
5. they have WMDz.

ishiqa

April 7th, 2004, 05:24 AM

because saddam hussein was an evil dictator. he starved his people to death and and ruined the eco-system of his own country. he is a very greedy and evil man. god will punish him in the end.

NumbaOneStunna

April 7th, 2004, 08:59 AM

methodman535

April 8th, 2004, 01:36 AM

because saddam hussein was an evil dictator. he starved his people to death and and ruined the eco-system of his own country. he is a very greedy and evil man. god will punish him in the end.
Oh wow that sounds a lot like North Korea and its dictator :?

Yeah and no other world leader has ever harmed the environment eh? Especially Bush...we know he does everything possible for the environment. :roll: And saddam didnt starve anyone to death, he made up a pretty good rationing plan from what I gather.

madbastard

April 20th, 2004, 03:49 PM

because saddam hussein was an evil dictator. he starved his people to death and and ruined the eco-system of his own country. he is a very greedy and evil man. god will punish him in the end.nd wtf does the united states have to do wiuth them, they wanna do freedom, let's start from here from the united states... let's make freedom here then move to other countries !!!!

angrynacho

April 21st, 2004, 12:13 AM

pnp366

April 21st, 2004, 12:21 AM

One reason IRAQ HAS OIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sphinx7

April 21st, 2004, 01:08 AM

Ok ... If you got an answer that would make sense... post a replay... if not please don't leave anything !
later

because Iraq has Oil. they plotted their way to get to Iraq and get what htey needed. how? they installed Saddam.
they were the devils behind the Iran-Iraq war. like they invaded Iraq in 91.
Also they invaded last year once more and occupy it today.
Now they will install a puppet-regime or distroy the Iraqi state and make a Kurdistan.

this is Y sept. eleven was plotted. They wanted to over throw the Taliban, 911 gave them an excuse to blowshit up. Because the Tallyban refused to let the US build an oil pipline thru Afghanistan to the Capian Sea in 2001. The US warned them and gave them an offer, if they didnt accept, they'd bomb them.

http://www.mediamonitors.net/osman13.html

http://www.videoactivism.org/warandoil.html

Its a fake war on terror, giving them an excuse to bomb iraq and other countries. Sharon even used it as an excuse when he had Shiekh Yassin murdered. Amazing to notice Israel's comment after the 911 attacks: Former Israeli Prime-Minister Ehud Barak said in an interview:
"The whole world has now to start a world war against the enemies of Israel." --Le Monde, Sep. 13, 2001.

ShivaChrist

April 23rd, 2004, 01:29 AM

this is Y sept. eleven was plotted.

And with this simple sentence, your entire message loses any hope of being taken serious.

Sphinx7

April 23rd, 2004, 02:21 AM

ShivaChrist

April 23rd, 2004, 01:22 PM

this is Y sept. eleven was plotted.

And with this simple sentence, your entire message loses any hope of being taken serious.

what about the rest of the info i posted??

that was a simple move by u [-X , par up next time b4 u reply to my posts.
my fire stays lit, S Christ.

The rest of the info you posted was just as false, so there was no need for me to quote it... your sources are all left-wing and the guy who runs the whole website is Muslim. Just like anything, his views are slanted and everything on that site is slanted in a view favorable for him and against the West.

Some things are quite simple, but people sit around looking for conspiracy theories when there are not.

Now we're putting Hussein into power as a puppet governemnt of the US? LOL

Sure, we helped him out in the '80s because of the world situation at the time, but we didn't install him as president.

The reason I know that you are full of BS? You never look at anything neutrally - everything is anti-US. The US is doing this evil thing. The US is doing that evil thing.

I hate to burst your bubble, but there are a hell of a lot worse things going on in this world and you should thank God the US is here with enough balls to stand alone (if need be) in the darkness. Because Europe is full of pussies, apparently.

InspectorGadget

April 23rd, 2004, 05:13 PM

Now we're putting Hussein into power as a puppet governemnt of the US? LOL

I am sorry but Saddam hussain was put into power with direct involvement of the USA.
His cousin was in power before him, and after telling the US Ambassador to Iraq that he would attack Iran he was given backing to made a bloody attack for leadership which he won.
He then attacked Iran as Amerca wanted and millions died, Iraq was left almost bankcrupt and as Saddam concentrated on selling oil to pay off the countries massive debts, Kuwait decided to increase production making the price of oil very cheap and hence meaning Iraq couldnt pay there debts, this and the issue of Iraq beleiving Kuwait were mining and refining Iraqi oil led to Saddam wanting to attack Kuwait, Saddam asked in the same manner as he did about Iran whether he could attack Kuwait and he was given the same asnwer, which he thought meant he could attack, of course we know what happened next.
Also we know now that Bush and Blair talking about attacking Iraq NINE DAYS after Sept 11 2001! So its fact that it was always Bush's intention to attack Iraq regardless of whether he proved he had destroyed hi WMD's

angrynacho

April 23rd, 2004, 09:10 PM

your sources are all left-wing and the guy who runs the whole website is Muslim.

Why is it that people in the US (particularly white conservate guys) are so caught up in bipartisan politics. The second you criticize Bush, they'll respond something like "uhhh uhhh Clinton wasn't any better..."

I hate to burst your bubble, but there are a hell of a lot worse things going on in this world and you should thank God the US is here with enough balls to stand alone (if need be) in the darkness. Because Europe is full of pussies, apparently.

White conservative tactic #2: Talk about how the rest of the world is bad as if that is a justification for US foreign policy. Since the US is so good as you say it is, I'm going to expect more of it.

Shut the fuck up about being a pussy. Were you in the army? By the looks of it, I'm going to say no.

Really man, calling somebody 'pussy' when you're talking about war is fucking stupid. I don't care how hard you are, you're going to be scared shitless if I have a gun at your head.

On an off topic tangent, I fucking hate it when old people start talking about how 'we' need a draft. Well, fuck you. Old motherfuckers aren't being drafted, so that shit is easy for them so say.

I know White Conservative Tactic #3 is going to be pulled in a bit, so let me announce it in advance: Saying how we shouldn't criticize the US government, but be thankful because we have Freedom of Speech and in most countries I'll have my hand sawed off for talking aobut this stuff. Right?

sameer

April 23rd, 2004, 11:12 PM

Shut the fuck up

these are the kind of comments which are no longer going to be tolerated in this forum... this is your warning, the next one gets you kicked out of serious discussions.

angrynacho

April 23rd, 2004, 11:34 PM

ShivaChrist

April 24th, 2004, 12:34 AM

Shut the fuck up

these are the kind of comments which are no longer going to be tolerated in this forum... this is your warning, the next one gets you kicked out of serious discussions.

But saying 'pussy' is fine? Just want to get clear on the rules.

Shivachrist really shouldn't have said European soldiers were pussies according to this rule, no?

I said Europe is full of pussies, I never mentioned soldiers. And there are a decent # of brave European troops helping America. Not nearly enough, because said pussies are giving in to the terrorists - look at Spain for a good example. Terror tactics, massive death, and they cave in and elect a group that wants nothing to do against the fight on terrorism.

See, your problem, Nacho is you yell, rant, rave when you are supposed to be 'discussing' a subject.

I can bet you good money I've only lost my cool a few times - and I am sure Sameer (not to put you on the spot, bud) can attest to that.

I don't yet at people. It's bad for the blood pressure.

shabaz ki jaan

April 24th, 2004, 05:46 AM

1) Iraq is muslim country
2) Israel
3) oil

sapna16

April 29th, 2004, 03:00 PM

B/C Saddam tried to kill Bush's dad and Bush the Lesser is still pissed about that. Bush is stupid. He ruined the economy and now he wants to be President again. Bush even has a Indian guy named Narender Reddy that raised 70,000 dollars for Bush to win this yr. What the hell is up w. ppl now i mean Bush ruined the whole country. He even knew about Sept. 11th before it happened and he didn't do anything. Do u know why? B/C he didn't believe Clinton. Why didn't he believe Clinton? B/C Clinton jus got over that stupid Affair w/ Monica Lewinsky and lots of ppl were pissed at him still.

dj XeNo

April 29th, 2004, 03:11 PM

Some intelligent responses.

I'm impressed 8)

bonita

January 16th, 2005, 09:35 AM

Some intelligent responses.

I'm impressed 8)
me too :yes:
i live in south korea
and we gotta do evacuation drills almost once a month in school
incase northkorea attacks
it sucks
:anger:

senormilkman

January 17th, 2005, 02:14 AM

I said Europe is full of pussies, I never mentioned soldiers. And there are a decent # of brave European troops helping America..
Ohh yeah.. Lets all call the Europeans (civilians and soliders), whose years of dealing with war exceeds the age of this country, pussies.. Yup.. Anyone who opposes the US in their so called "war on terror" are pussies.. :rolleyes:

Not nearly enough, because said pussies are giving in to the terrorists - look at Spain for a good example. Terror tactics, massive death, and they cave in and elect a group that wants nothing to do against the fight on terrorism.
Hmm.. well its easy of a country to say "no we wont give into terrorism" when they are located thousands of miles away from the war-torn region, on the other side of the world.

ali_sakur

January 17th, 2005, 02:27 AM

Ok ... If you got an answer that would make sense... post a replay... if not please don't leave anything !
later

He didn't attack N. Korea for several reasons:

1. We would need South Korea's cooperation and they wouldn't want to provoke a war with their cousins. N. Korea has tons of missles and artillary aimed at south korea, and Japan, and they would fucking Kill half of South Korea's population with the weapons they have aimed into south korea)
2. China protects N. Korea and would likely interfere in any millitary action we take in N.Korea (they may even consider taking action against taiwan), this could easily sour relations with China which is our biggest trading partner
3. North Korea is more well defended and would require a very large Army to defeat (which would require a draft). unless we used nukes or heavily bombed (both resulting in huge civillian casualties, which would make the U.S. look bad, and the people in power are scared of this, and they aretoo weak to Do what needs to be done war will inevitably involve civillian casualties, name a war that hasn't))
4. N. Korea has nukes, so if Kim Jun IL was backed into a corner he would use em.

why did bush attack saddam? Several reasons

1. Oil
2. Saddam had the ability, the weapons, the money, and the will to help terrorists. (it is rumored that he had his WMD, sent to the Becha valley in Lebanon through Syria, which if true would mean that Hezbollah controls them) he got millins on the form of kickbacks from the courrupt oil for food program. There is mounds of evidence of direct and indirect cooperation with terrorists.

*nicki*

January 23rd, 2005, 04:23 PM

because bush is a fuc*in idiot...thats why

Cunard

January 23rd, 2005, 11:57 PM

assault on North Korea would leave South Korea and Japan in ruins, both of which are economic power houses.

Iraq was already weakened over 12 years of sanctions, conventional military threats were limited, but since he never came clean with UN inspectors the threat of unconventional weapons always remained so he was taken out for once and for all.

a good solution would have been to take him out after the 1991 war.

Oil has a little factor in the war, its nothing but an overplayed tool. Doesnt matter who has control over the oil, if that nation with oil wants money, it has to sell the oil, biggest buyer of oil is the west/western allies. Even Iran sells oil to the west.

The Taliban were probably the most anti-west govt in the world, but even they got VIP tours of Texas during talks over a natural gas pipeline. Whoever controls the purse strings controls the oil at the end of the day.

d-wal

January 24th, 2005, 12:03 AM

indianchick87

January 24th, 2005, 12:14 AM

its because dick cheney is making money like a madmother from invading iraq. :rolleyes:

Cunard

January 24th, 2005, 12:18 AM

its because dick cheney is making money like a madmother from invading iraq. :rolleyes:

not quite since Halliburton (dick cheneys old company) has lost over 50 employees and about 3 billion in contracts since they messed up at the beginning of the war with there accounting

Cunard

January 24th, 2005, 12:20 AM

umm north korea has the same problem

an invasion of north korea would be to costly since it would drag South Korea and Japan into the war, both of which are economic power houses.

Im sure pressure from China will turn the tide in North Korea though since China relies heavly on the US as a consumer of Chinese products

Tacoma99Stud

January 27th, 2005, 01:37 AM

We went to war with Iraq cause we knew they didnt have nukes, we didnt wanna go to war with NK because we know they have`nukes and are crazy enough to use it. If NK attacked us there, well first of all they would artillery the hell out of our bases there. They could easily take over SK and kill every single american troop there. All the US that is stationed there would simply be a lil bump in the road. They would take over SK within a day or 2. But then the US would send a armada of troops within the next few days and we'd come in and invade and retake Korea. We got superiority over everythin.

Nationalist

March 13th, 2005, 11:41 PM

Here's a Joke I found on that subject
Top 11 reasons North Korea's successful, active nuclear weapons program should be handled diplomatically.

11. By definition: North Korea's nuclear weapons program is active and successful.

10. Top secret CIA transmission: "ee-thay on't-day av-hay oi-lay.

9. Empathy for the ill-prepared son of the former leader of that troubled nation.

8. Every time Dubya hears "Kim Jong Il," he resists action in favor of waiting and hoping for a more western leaning successor.

7. GOP sugar daddies in Taiwan insist on peace and stability in the region.

6. Colin Powell doesn't smirk and giggle when he says "Pyongyang."

5. Junior's got enough on his plate without having to finish things for Eisenhower, too.

4. Arcane macroeconomics: who cares if North Korea switches from the dollar to the Euro, they don't have the reserves that Iraq, Iran and Venezuela do.

3. Dubya's lost interest in other wars now that the installed regime in Afghanistan has agreed to Unocal's pipeline.

2. Artistic license: speech writers needed to cite third country for "Axis of Evil" speech to liken Saddam to Hitler.

1. Dubya was willing to violate his "principles" to avoid fighting in a war in Asia 35 years ago and he's standing by that.

from www.toostupidtobepresident.com

methodman535

March 14th, 2005, 01:23 AM

lankanbaby

March 14th, 2005, 01:30 AM

1)oil
2)he wanted to finish what his dad began

SniperJared

March 14th, 2005, 10:25 AM

Theres a few reasons...

1. Koreans got skillz
2. There are about 400 artillery pieces in range, and targetting Seoul S.Korea, so when a war breaks out over 500,000 civilians will be instantly killed.
3. N.Korea is extremely mountainous terrain, which will make it hard for a land based attack.
4. N.Korea's conventional military is actually larger than ours (we still have better equipment)
5. N.Korea does have nukes and dirty bombs
6. If we attack Korea, China may take it as a sign of aggression, and then we'd be in an even bigger shithole.
7. There arent as many Natural Resources in Korea.
8. S.Korea Doesnt want a war.