"so where we going tod......HOLY FU** SAKE FU***** G*D!!!!"

[sky86]

ye so we was driving out our mates road and noticed this motherPHUCCKKKINNN masterpiece!!!


http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w240/zideeq/DSC00760.jpg

shit made me cry :(

I thought yeah ok so he had a '07 plate Range before and a 911 Turbo before that, but I would have never guessed this guy, who does live in a flat even a uni student could rent, was gonna end up with this fucker! I got a boner, no lie, sorry but it's true, ahem....

funny 'cos I said the other day on here that the only car I'm gonna buy is this one lol :Pelvic2:

I wish :(

[ilyas@!!oops!!]

i c that car alot in central london :D

[Paki and Proud]

theyre common even in luton now

my bro looking for some good deals on a 2006 ferrari

[ilyas@!!oops!!]

theyre common even in luton now

my bro looking for some good deals on a 2006 ferrari


ur bro must be rich how much can u get one for? :(

[Paki and Proud]

ur bro must be rich how much can u get one for? :(

he'll get it on finance.. probs pay 50% of the price up front in cash and the rest on finance.. i thought he was goonna get the rs4, but he says hed rather splash out on a ferrari.. no point in buying new coz u lose 20k as soon as u drive it out of the showrrooom!

i mite nick his m3 now lol

[ilyas@!!oops!!]

he'll get it on finance.. probs pay 50% of the price up front in cash and the rest on finance.. i thought he was goonna get the rs4, but he says hed rather splash out on a ferrari.. no point in buying new coz u lose 20k as soon as u drive it out of the showrrooom!

i mite nick his m3 now lol


that is a bird puller!

good luck! ;)

[sky86]

I'm not into ferarris that much anymore, but still F430 is the one!!

[Paki and Proud]

I'm not into ferarris that much anymore, but still F430 is the one!!
lol i think if someone offered us a ferrari, none of us would say no to it..

its like people saying range rover sport(or any otha car) is common.. until u urself own one or own something better, one should hush!

[JayJai]

no point in buying new coz u lose 20k as soon as u drive it out of the showrrooom!


Not on a Ferrari you dont...best bet is to get it on Lease and run i through business account thats what I do...after 24/36 months give it back and get a new one.

[Paki and Proud]

Not on a Ferrari you dont...best bet is to get it on Lease and run i through business account thats what I do...after 24/36 months give it back and get a new one.

post a pic

and leases r long coz u'd feel like u dont really own the car deep down!

[kaisar2]

post a pic

and leases r long coz u'd feel like u dont really own the car deep down!you read it dear. post pics

[JayJai]

post a pic

and leases r long coz u'd feel like u dont really own the car deep down!

I dont have a Ferrari now.... I have a 330d, but when I did I had them on 12 month leases with fixed anual milage. F360 Spider at £910 a month over 12 months isnt a lot....but I didnt have mine to show off...I had mine as I genuinly like the cars...

My current is over 24 months, and at £530 a month including maintenance. ...whilst Id love a 430 I dont think I can justify £1600 a month yet based on my commitments.

PPS : here is who I use / used.

http://www.prestige-car-leasing.co.uk/car_leasing/ferrari/

JJ

[kaisar2]

I dont have a Ferrari now.... I have a 330d, but when I did I had them on 12 month leases with fixed anual milage. F360 Spider at £910 a month over 12 months isnt a lot....but I didnt have mine to show off...I had mine as I genuinly like the cars...

My current is over 24 months, and at £530 a month including maintenance. ...whilst Id love a 430 I dont think I can justify £1600 a month yet based on my commitments.

PPS : here is who I use / used.

http://www.prestige-car-leasing.co.uk/car_leasing/ferrari/

JJNo please show off. and if its about the links i use/used this in dreams

http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/maserati_mc12.asp

You provided facts with so called self acclaimed ownage , so please do it once again. im waiting

[kaisar2]

:hyper: :nervious: 15 mins passed

[JayJai]

No please show off. and if its about the links i use/used this in dreams

http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/maserati_mc12.asp

You provided facts with so called self acclaimed ownage , so please do it once again. im waiting

..the answer was to the reasoning of having 20k off a Ferrari off the forecourt and the advice was to explore leasing as a way of getting one.....not sure where you have got lost there......

Maserati arent really my thing tbh.....ill leave them to you in your dreams or wherever you so choose.

Be pretty sad if you had to own a Ferrari for others to show of to!....

I dont own a ferrari...I leased one as I dont feel owning a car is a cost effective way of procurring one. It makes no sense.

But if I did whats the big deal?...you seem to be impressed by it?...which I must say is sad if you really are....as it means nothing in relative terms.

Now, I dont need to justify my previous cars and ownership to you or anyone as it means very little aside from me showing off and displaying an extention of my supposed penis!...if this was a thread about which cars you have then its different....but as I dont have a habit of taking pictures of my cars..I cant qualify what I have said.....so beleive it or dont......doesnt make an iota of difference to me.....although Ill say that if I do get the F430 rest assured Ill now put a picture up just for you my Little love cherub..as it clearly means something to you..


JJ

[kaisar2]

..the answer was to the reasoning of having 20k off a Ferrari off the forecourt and the advice was to explore leasing as a way of getting one.....not sure where you have got lost there......

Maserati arent really my thing tbh.....ill leave them to you in your dreams or wherever you so choose.

Be pretty sad if you had to own a Ferrari for others to show of to!....

I dont own a ferrari...I leased one as I dont feel owning a car is a cost effective way of procurring one. It makes no sense.

But if I did whats the big deal?...you seem to be impressed by it?...which I must say is sad if you really are....as it means nothing in relative terms.

Now, I dont need to justify my previous cars and ownership to you or anyone as it means very little aside from me showing off and displaying an extention of my supposed penis!...if this was a thread about which cars you have then its different....but as I dont have a habit of taking pictures of my cars..I cant qualify what I have said.....so beleive it or dont......doesnt make an iota of difference to me.....although Ill say that if I do get the F430 rest assured Ill now put a picture up just for you my Little love cherub..as it clearly means something to you..


JJ:rofl: okay , maaf kiya baba LMFAO!!!!!!!!

DIESEL POWER :yikes:

[Paki and Proud]

..the answer was to the reasoning of having 20k off a Ferrari off the forecourt and the advice was to explore leasing as a way of getting one.....not sure where you have got lost there......

Maserati arent really my thing tbh.....ill leave them to you in your dreams or wherever you so choose.

Be pretty sad if you had to own a Ferrari for others to show of to!....

I dont own a ferrari...I leased one as I dont feel owning a car is a cost effective way of procurring one. It makes no sense.

But if I did whats the big deal?...you seem to be impressed by it?...which I must say is sad if you really are....as it means nothing in relative terms.

Now, I dont need to justify my previous cars and ownership to you or anyone as it means very little aside from me showing off and displaying an extention of my supposed penis!...if this was a thread about which cars you have then its different....but as I dont have a habit of taking pictures of my cars..I cant qualify what I have said.....so beleive it or dont......doesnt make an iota of difference to me.....although Ill say that if I do get the F430 rest assured Ill now put a picture up just for you my Little love cherub..as it clearly means something to you..


JJ

i always go on the punjabi saying "subbeh vich rohvo" which means stay with in ur means.. if yore earning 30k a year ( or whatever) theres no point in spending a portion on that on a car thats out of your league.. namean.. if u wanna have the status that goes with owning a supercar, u hav to work for it, not take the cheap option and lease it out.. at least thats what i would think and thats wat my bro probs think as well.

[JayJai]

i always go on the punjabi saying "subbeh vich rohvo" which means stay with in ur means.. if yore earning 30k a year ( or whatever) theres no point in spending a portion on that on a car thats out of your league.. namean.. if u wanna have the status that goes with owning a supercar, u hav to work for it, not take the cheap option and lease it out.. at least thats what i would think and thats wat my bro probs think as well.

Id agree..stay within your means.....but sadly majority dont....but then these are the ppl that want a car to show off or to prove a point

I think youve totally misunderstood the basis of why to lease....it has very little to do with ownership/affordability and more to do with economic sense ...but dont matter...think thats an Asian thing...as majority of asian ppl especially in the UK have this beleive of paying out right and owning a car which is just totally mindless too me.....and again goes witht he mindset "look at me Ive got this car"....

JJ

[Paki and Proud]

Id agree..stay within your means.....but sadly majority dont....but then these are the ppl that want a car to show off or to prove a point

I think youve totally misunderstood the basis of why to lease....it has very little to do with ownership/affordability and more to do with economic sense ...but dont matter...think thats an Asian thing...as majority of asian ppl especially in the UK have this beleive of paying out right and owning a car which is just totally mindless too me.....and again goes witht he mindset "look at me Ive got this car"....

JJ

i think youre wrong

come to luton and id say 85% of the best cas on the rad driven by asians are on lease..

i think for some.. owning a ferrari is more than the miles/gallon.. its about a reward.. and u dont give back rewards after 2 years ( i kno u can by of the lease.. but u'll be paying over the odds!)

id want the car to be mine.. not the property of a contract :neutral:

idsay the people that lease the supercars are the ones that show off

[di vinci]

Id agree..stay within your means.....but sadly majority dont....but then these are the ppl that want a car to show off or to prove a point

I think youve totally misunderstood the basis of why to lease....it has very little to do with ownership/affordability and more to do with economic sense ...but dont matter...think thats an Asian thing...as majority of asian ppl especially in the UK have this beleive of paying out right and owning a car which is just totally mindless too me.....and again goes witht he mindset "look at me Ive got this car"....

JJ


i agree with you. one of y mates got a mini. he leasing it and every two years he gets a free upgrade and maintenace is included. but dwn side is he can only do 15k a year maximum

[JayJai]

i think youre wrong

come to luton and id say 85% of the best cas on the rad driven by asians are on lease..

i think for some.. owning a ferrari is more than the miles/gallon.. its about a reward.. and u dont give back rewards after 2 years ( i kno u can by of the lease.. but u'll be paying over the odds!)

id want the car to be mine.. not the property of a contract :neutral:

idsay the people that lease the supercars are the ones that show off

Lol...youve still missed the point.

Reward isnt about owning something...

Buying a car is an econimic No No

I personnaly, dont drive cars older then 2 years of age. Its something I do and wont change as, well its a personal preference.

Now, if I buy a car, lets say the F360. Back when I had it it was £120k. Now, if I had bought that as an asset, I could not write off its accounting value. More so, if I had bought it out right, and used it the way I did (milage etc) then it would have depreciated well beyond what a normal Ferrari would have.

So, lets compare

£120k given for the car..which means that the vehicle will ALWAYS give you back less and you are limited to getting any + economic gains.

OR

Lease : I paid £5k deposit and £1k total a month with everything. Over the 12 months thats a total outlay of 17k which hit me.

Now I wouldnt want a Ferrari more then 12-24 months, as I want to try new cars at my peril. So I returned it. Now, if I had done what YOU are saying, Id have paid 120k, and would haev probably got back 82-86k based on the vehicle after 12 months.

So lets evalute the economics in this?.....

Ownership : Lost 35+ K
Lease : Outlayed £17k with a net cost to me at £11k

Additonally, with the 120k i DIDNT spend, I put into Property which appreciated by 23%..........

Win - Win.

Its about understanding the long term game plan..not thinking that I buy something because I have the money.

ANYONE that buys a Supercar outright isnt very bright , or has the money and cares very little about losing money. In which case this is fine, but I like to make the most of my finances over the long term as opposed to throwing the hard earned money which I use\used to "reward" myself.

JJ

[JayJai]

i agree with you. one of y mates got a mini. he leasing it and every two years he gets a free upgrade and maintenace is included. but dwn side is he can only do 15k a year maximum


Dude this is the point

Its a disaster to own a car!

Alot of my friends fathers (extremely rich, multi millionaires) say the same thing, and there sons, my friends, follow this and say "oh I must own it!"....lol....and the commonality I see with this is

a) there daddies boys and basically run daddies business and have on REAL business ethos, creation and development

b) are just plainly not very bright.....and think because Daddy says it, it must be right!

asians are soo not bright on issues such as these.

JJ

[di vinci]

Dude this is the point

Its a disaster to own a car!

Alot of my friends fathers (extremely rich, multi millionaires) say the same thing, and there sons, my friends, follow this and say "oh I must own it!"....lol....and the commonality I see with this is

a) there daddies boys and basically run daddies business and have on REAL business ethos, creation and development

b) are just plainly not very bright.....and think because Daddy says it, it must be right!

asians are soo not bright on issues such as these.

JJ


your so right a car will never increase in value. the onkly dwnside to leasing is if ur short of cash u could always flog your own car. but a lease car you cant. cars lose value unlike buildings. over time ur always a wionner. maintencae of a ferrari is blind blowing. i know this wealthy wqhite dude he drives a fiat pounto n reg. he said it cost me nothing to buy but it gets me from a-b. cheap on parts. im gona look into leasing too. but nmot a big machine i prefer my city run arounds

[JayJai]

your so right a car will never increase in value. the onkly dwnside to leasing is if ur short of cash u could always flog your own car. but a lease car you cant. cars lose value unlike buildings. over time ur always a wionner. maintencae of a ferrari is blind blowing. i know this wealthy wqhite dude he drives a fiat pounto n reg. he said it cost me nothing to buy but it gets me from a-b. cheap on parts. im gona look into leasing too. but nmot a big machine i prefer my city run arounds

totally agree...tbh I am also not a big car person...but it was my little child hood dream and reward that I promised myself.....so I had to do it......but my bigger game plan was to do it in a cost effective manner..and still come out the winner....which I achieved.

End of the day, its horses for courses......but theres no way in hell am I throwing away my money on such a useless asset....when it took me years of hard work, blood, sweat and tears to get to where I have got so far.....no way!

[Rizla]

Lol...youve still missed the point.

Reward isnt about owning something...

Buying a car is an econimic No No

I personnaly, dont drive cars older then 2 years of age. Its something I do and wont change as, well its a personal preference.

Now, if I buy a car, lets say the F360. Back when I had it it was £120k. Now, if I had bought that as an asset, I could not write off its accounting value. More so, if I had bought it out right, and used it the way I did (milage etc) then it would have depreciated well beyond what a normal Ferrari would have.

So, lets compare

£120k given for the car..which means that the vehicle will ALWAYS give you back less and you are limited to getting any + economic gains.

OR

Lease : I paid £5k deposit and £1k total a month with everything. Over the 12 months thats a total outlay of 17k which hit me.

Now I wouldnt want a Ferrari more then 12-24 months, as I want to try new cars at my peril. So I returned it. Now, if I had done what YOU are saying, Id have paid 120k, and would haev probably got back 82-86k based on the vehicle after 12 months.

So lets evalute the economics in this?.....

Ownership : Lost 35+ K
Lease : Outlayed £17k with a net cost to me at £11k

Additonally, with the 120k i DIDNT spend, I put into Property which appreciated by 23%..........

Win - Win.

Its about understanding the long term game plan..not thinking that I buy something because I have the money.

ANYONE that buys a Supercar outright isnt very bright , or has the money and cares very little about losing money. In which case this is fine, but I like to make the most of my finances over the long term as opposed to throwing the hard earned money which I use\used to "reward" myself.

JJ

Well well well, an intelligent poster on RD.

My brother in law has always leased his cars. Hes getting a Range Rover Sport tomorrow, nothing like a Ferrari, but still pretty badass. Although he doesnt have a business/business account. How does running it via the business account work and what are the overall advantages? Sorry, i just have no idea about business accounts and I'm very intrigued..

[JayJai]

Well well well, an intelligent poster on RD.

My brother in law has always leased his cars. Hes getting a Range Rover Sport tomorrow, nothing like a Ferrari, but still pretty badass. Although he doesnt have a business/business account. How does running it via the business account work and what are the overall advantages? Sorry, i just have no idea about business accounts and I'm very intrigued..

Well, I invoice via an Offshore setup and hold my "earnings" in trust, and so I make loan payments to myself...all legal and thoroughly vetted by HMRC...and Yes it is a tax avoidance scheme.

In terms of off setting my vehicle, as long as I can prove that I used it for work purposes, adhere to the 40p per mile, and cliam reasonable maintence costs youll be pretty well ok. The issue is when you start taking the piss......

What you can also do, is set another company up (shell) and share the liability of the vehicle and thus reduce your "real" commitment to the cost of the vehicle........

Theres alot of ways in doing this.....and its what 99% of the Investment Guys and Private Equity guys do to reduce there tax liability, either through permanent or contract employment

Hope that makes sense?

JJ

[Paki and Proud]

totally agree...tbh I am also not a big car person...but it was my little child hood dream and reward that I promised myself.....so I had to do it......but my bigger game plan was to do it in a cost effective manner..and still come out the winner....which I achieved.

End of the day, its horses for courses......but theres no way in hell am I throwing away my money on such a useless asset....when it took me years of hard work, blood, sweat and tears to get to where I have got so far.....no way!

u said that cars are not rewards

u shouldnt look at cars as investments.. ( if u wanna make money.. the real money is buying damaged cars unrecorded on hpi or importing etc)

u should see them as a reward.. as a th jewel of ur crown. not as an investment..

IF you can afford a ferrari.. im sure you would rather own it outright and KNOW its urs rather than leasing etc.. if your gonna pay approx 1k a month on a car, ona 2 year lease that works out as 24k...

u could buya ferrari (for 100k lets say).. drive it around for 2 years.. and still sell it for more than 75k.. which would mean youve paid at most 25k for something that is ur own
but the numbers are bolloecks coz if u want to own a ferrari, u dont own it to make money.. u work to make money.. not buy/sell cars t save a few k or something
depends on the mentality

if u kno u will never be able to feasibly afford a supercar, then obviously leasing will be the 2nd best alternative to get 2 ur dream

anyways im knackered

x

[kaisar2]

Id agree..stay within your means.....but sadly majority dont....but then these are the ppl that want a car to show off or to prove a point

JJits okay , i already have forgiven you, now every post after that is pinpointing some misconceptions about me.

Seriouly brother , you dont know me. And i love you for that

[JayJai]

u said that cars are not rewards

u shouldnt look at cars as investments.. ( if u wanna make money.. the real money is buying damaged cars unrecorded on hpi or importing etc)

Of course but thats not my forte and it wouldnt earn me enough money.


u should see them as a reward.. as a th jewel of ur crown. not as an investment..

In a way Yes they are rewards, but my definition of a reward is different to yours....in that I want alot of rewards not just one...as far as jewel of a crown....erm no the oposite..a spec on the crown thats merely an expendable\disposable asset...the jewel of the crown is liquid cash and real estate.


IF you can afford a ferrari.. im sure you would rather own it outright and KNOW its urs rather than leasing etc.. if your gonna pay approx 1k a month on a car, ona 2 year lease that works out as 24k...

Lol dude come on....why do you keep missing the point? Ive highlighted above why its mindless to own such a wastefull asset....even over 24 months and 24k it was cash negative and not condusive to me financial aims...I would NEVER own a car, let alone a Superacar even though I can go out and buy them outright....its make no financial and accounting sense...


u could buya ferrari (for 100k lets say).. drive it around for 2 years.. and still sell it for more than 75k.. which would mean youve paid at most 25k for something that is ur ownbut the numbers are bolloecks coz if u want to own a ferrari, u dont own it to make money.. u work to make money.. not buy/sell cars t save a few k or something depends on the mentality

lol..again you miss the point. My example was on how to own it in a cost effetive manner..go over my example and youll see that owning it is just for idiots. If you want to own something stick to property and the likes. You made the point of working to make money. This is my point, I havent had a silver spoon and I dont run daddies businesses and try to pass them off as my own as many asians seem to do;....and so I know the real meaning of setting up businesses and understanding the framework that goes in place FROM GROND ZERO without assitance...which has also taught me the real value and the effort, hard work, and stress thats associated with it. And so, by virtue of this, owning a vehicle, which is a number one depreciating asset, is simple mindless...the figures are evident and theres really no other explanation of why this is such a no brainer.


if u kno u will never be able to feasibly afford a supercar, then obviously leasing will be the 2nd best alternative to get 2 ur dream

Again, youve not read the post earlier and to be really honest you fail to grasp the point. Owning a car has nothing to do with affordability in this context....its about having value for your money and knowing how to be smart with it...putting it all in a super car which is going to be cash negative (as soon as you drive it off the forcourt" by your own admission is for kids.........there no other examples I can give you aside from Accoutning write offs but I dont think youll understand that..from your responses so far....

tbh I dont think you see where I am coming from, as the other posters have..and so we are coming from this at different angles....but Id rather put my cash in property then a vehicle.....THINK BIGGER PICTURE not just owning a car or supercar to make a point or even show off......its merely a vehicle and one to satisfy a craving or desire or a dream.......I have plenty which I want to achieve and just having one ferrari is not mine....but each to there own....as you say.

JJ

[JayJai]

its okay , i already have forgiven you, now every post after that is pinpointing some misconceptions about me.

Seriouly brother , you dont know me. And i love you for that

LOL dude now thats paranoia..you should know if I want to say something Ill say it directly......but honestly that was a general explanaton of Asians in the West and how they see cars etc

[kaisar2]

LOL dude now thats paranoia..you should know if I want to say something Ill say it directly......but honestly that was a general explanaton of Asians in the West and how they see cars etcthe pictures please

[JayJai]

the pictures please

you dont need them look around and see any asian with the typical attitude...particularly over here.

[kaisar2]

you dont need them look around and see any asian with the typical attitude...particularly over here.oh so you are different, another class the higher one. im better, desi are shit type of person?

[Paki and Proud]

Of course but thats not my forte and it wouldnt earn me enough money.



In a way Yes they are rewards, but my definition of a reward is different to yours....in that I want alot of rewards not just one...as far as jewel of a crown....erm no the oposite..a spec on the crown thats merely an expendable\disposable asset...the jewel of the crown is liquid cash and real estate.



Lol dude come on....why do you keep missing the point? Ive highlighted above why its mindless to own such a wastefull asset....even over 24 months and 24k it was cash negative and not condusive to me financial aims...I would NEVER own a car, let alone a Superacar even though I can go out and buy them outright....its make no financial and accounting sense...



lol..again you miss the point. My example was on how to own it in a cost effetive manner..go over my example and youll see that owning it is just for idiots. If you want to own something stick to property and the likes. You made the point of working to make money. This is my point, I havent had a silver spoon and I dont run daddies businesses and try to pass them off as my own as many asians seem to do;....and so I know the real meaning of setting up businesses and understanding the framework that goes in place FROM GROND ZERO without assitance...which has also taught me the real value and the effort, hard work, and stress thats associated with it. And so, by virtue of this, owning a vehicle, which is a number one depreciating asset, is simple mindless...the figures are evident and theres really no other explanation of why this is such a no brainer.



Again, youve not read the post earlier and to be really honest you fail to grasp the point. Owning a car has nothing to do with affordability in this context....its about having value for your money and knowing how to be smart with it...putting it all in a super car which is going to be cash negative (as soon as you drive it off the forcourt" by your own admission is for kids.........there no other examples I can give you aside from Accoutning write offs but I dont think youll understand that..from your responses so far....

tbh I dont think you see where I am coming from, as the other posters have..and so we are coming from this at different angles....but Id rather put my cash in property then a vehicle.....THINK BIGGER PICTURE not just owning a car or supercar to make a point or even show off......its merely a vehicle and one to satisfy a craving or desire or a dream.......I have plenty which I want to achieve and just having one ferrari is not mine....but each to there own....as you say.

JJ

Lol at you making such a huge debate out of this.

The last paragraph really made me chuckle. If you can afford a supercar and know that its not going to be bank breaking, who the hell are you to say that its a stupid move. sometimes in life, you have to stop thinking about money and jus treat urself!

You can see cars as one of your own family or an investment. Obviously, if you see it as some kind of investment, youre more likely to think like you do. i.e. a car that good is not really that necessary.
Or, you could see the car as part of your family. ie. a reward, something to splash out on knowing that you can afford it without risking your quality of living. and then u treat iit like the jewel of your crown.

as i said, its all about living within your means. if u want a ferrari, u can pay 30-40k for 2 years etc. or if u can afford it, why not pay the 100k for outright ownership.

im not looking down on your stance/methods, as its becoming increasingly common for those who want to live the supercar dream for a while and then skip back to reality.

im not sure what you do for a living.. but leasing is a bit of a hassle when u run the business aswell. its hard enough clearing 75k cheques every week.. and then somehow u clear them and break profit.. but then u hav no idea where the money goes.. add an extra 2k a month jus for the payment annd its jus hassle hassle hassle.. an extra headache.. this is a personal comment for my brothers situation, not a general one!

[JayJai]

Lol at you making such a huge debate out of this.

The last paragraph really made me chuckle. If you can afford a supercar and know that its not going to be bank breaking, who the hell are you to say that its a stupid move. sometimes in life, you have to stop thinking about money and jus treat urself!

You can see cars as one of your own family or an investment. Obviously, if you see it as some kind of investment, youre more likely to think like you do. i.e. a car that good is not really that necessary.
Or, you could see the car as part of your family. ie. a reward, something to splash out on knowing that you can afford it without risking your quality of living. and then u treat iit like the jewel of your crown.

as i said, its all about living within your means. if u want a ferrari, u can pay 30-40k for 2 years etc. or if u can afford it, why not pay the 100k for outright ownership.

im not looking down on your stance/methods, as its becoming increasingly common for those who want to live the supercar dream for a while and then skip back to reality.

im not sure what you do for a living.. but leasing is a bit of a hassle when u run the business aswell. its hard enough clearing 75k cheques every week.. and then somehow u clear them and break profit.. but then u hav no idea where the money goes.. add an extra 2k a month jus for the payment annd its jus hassle hassle hassle.. an extra headache.. this is a personal comment for my brothers situation, not a general one!

I know ya aint looking down at me, and I didnt think you was for one second judging by your previous post history...if I thought youd do that I wouldnt have bothered giving my input.

In terms of leasing, Yes it can be a hassle, but if youve got the infrastruture in place and good understanding of how to make it cost effective, its pretty as ABC

As you alluded, its about your interpretation...Id prefer putting cash in Property which will see me well over the future...then buy a car. Thats not everyones cup of tea.....but to me it makes sense....it has very little to do with owning it to reward yourself and thinking "yeh Ive bought a 120k car! im the man!, as I can afford it"..if it gave me value for money Id have bought it and kept it...but for me it didnt give me any value aside from wanting to have one to experience it.

In terms of saying its a stupid move, I mean in a financial sense; its pretty a no brainer. But not everyone thinks like this...as you reasoning is an example of this.

In terms fo why bot paying the outright money, I made the point WHY lol

think this thread be left best as you really cant understand why I said the things I did...as you keep coming back to affordability and owning it......if we were talking Property all that you have said makes sense ...but if we talking vehicles it doesnt.....due to reasons outlined.

But each to there own......and as you say thats your brothers situ..although I wasnt realy sure what you meant in terms of hassle....youd only really do this if you had the disposable income in the first place, and thus had your finances in order to facilitate such a lifestyle.....surely if the issue was breaking a profit\break even and worrying about such mundane issues, you shouldnt be considering it in the first place?..

JJ

[JayJai]

oh so you are different, another class the higher one. im better, desi are shit type of person?

How did you come to that one?....Im referring to those that have been spoon fed and have no idea how to earn a living, and as an example just live of mummy and daddies money.

[Paki and Proud]

I know ya aint looking down at me, and I didnt think you was for one second judging by your previous post history...if I thought youd do that I wouldnt have bothered giving my input.

In terms of leasing, Yes it can be a hassle, but if youve got the infrastruture in place and good understanding of how to make it cost effective, its pretty as ABC

As you alluded, its about your interpretation...Id prefer putting cash in Property which will see me well over the future...then buy a car. Thats not everyones cup of tea.....but to me it makes sense....it has very little to do with owning it to reward yourself and thinking "yeh Ive bought a 120k car! im the man!, as I can afford it"..if it gave me value for money Id have bought it and kept it...but for me it didnt give me any value aside from wanting to have one to experience it.

In terms of saying its a stupid move, I mean in a financial sense; its pretty a no brainer. But not everyone thinks like this...as you reasoning is an example of this.

In terms fo why bot paying the outright money, I made the point WHY lol

think this thread be left best as you really cant understand why I said the things I did...as you keep coming back to affordability and owning it......if we were talking Property all that you have said makes sense ...but if we talking vehicles it doesnt.....due to reasons outlined.

But each to there own......and as you say thats your brothers situ..although I wasnt realy sure what you meant in terms of hassle....youd only really do this if you had the disposable income in the first place, and thus had your finances in order to facilitate such a lifestyle.....surely if the issue was breaking a profit\break even and worrying about such mundane issues, you shouldnt be considering it in the first place?..

JJ

I think the fundamental difference is how you view a car.

you can look at it from your view.. ie as a luxury but an affordable one and more of an investment

or if you got the money and youve worked very hard.. 20 hour shifts (as he has odne) on a consistent basis, then i think he is entitled to show off ..

but ur line of thinking seems to suggest that u cant invest in property as well as own a ferrari lol.;)

[JayJai]

but ur line of thinking seems to suggest that u cant invest in property as well as own a ferrari lol.;)

LOL..I give up!..we aint going anywhere...and its got tedious as ill be keep repeating myself...so lets agree to disagree but i think the wider audience has got the fundamental point :wavey: :dance3:

[sky86]

well this flew slightly off topic, I think if you got the money to own this car, you got the money to fucking share with your peers, this one goes out to those ungrateful moehterfuckers, example;

about 3-4 years back, probably 4, cos I was in college, ok so I was waiting for a bus and the sotp, which was like 40 minutes late, I was pissed and bare tired, and the sun went long ago, so like this white man in a suit comes to me, mate you got like 75p, I'm like ok sure, lemme see (he seemed in need) he said cheers, walked off, next thing I see, this motherfucker smoking a fag driving past me (he blatantly saw me) in a fucking ferarri which was his cos it had some white name on it, which i assumed was his.

Im like ATLEAST OFFER ME A FUCKING LIFT THEN?!?! WTF WEE GOIN THE SAME WAY, he juss SPRINTED PAST AFTER.
never have i been so pissed off with a rich guy...

so ye, rob the rich give to the poor, in some cases, it's right... :mad: :mad:

[Paki and Proud]

LOL..I give up!..we aint going anywhere...and its got tedious as ill be keep repeating myself...so lets agree to disagree but i think the wider audience has got the fundamental point :wavey: :dance3:

IT WAS TONGUE IN CHEK HENCE THE ;)

[naughtyness]

:dribble:

that is a hot car, i want that car in black. like. seriously.

[kaisar2]

How did you come to that one?....Im referring to those that have been spoon fed and have no idea how to earn a living, and as an example just live of mummy and daddies money.told you, you dont know me. and again i love you for that

[JayJai]

told you, you dont know me. and again i love you for that

not as much as I love you baby cakes!

[kaisar2]

not as much as I love you baby cakes!love dpesnt have parameters, either you are honest unconditionaly with it or you are not