know any good companies/website i can buy mehndi?

[shmooks]

i need to get quite a bit of henna and glitter henna for a big event. does anyone know of any good wholesalers i can get it from? cheers

[ilyas@!!oops!!]

i brought some from Lush for my hair is very good!
£8.99 for a natural block!!!!!! but u have to melt it


:neutral: :D

[sWeEtnDsOuR]

jus check at ur local indo/pak stores...they're bound to have big packs somewhere...

i have this huge thing of it...but i got it from india...

[di vinci]

import them from india or pakistan?

[LittleAngel]

http://www.mehndicreations.com/glitter.htm
http://www.hennacaravan.com/shop/glitter.html

I don't know if thats good enough or what you are looking for....

[shmooks]

i brought some from Lush for my hair is very good!
£8.99 for a natural block!!!!!! but u have to melt it


:neutral: :D
lush is awesome.. but i was looking for some that you apply on hands etc thanks anyway

[shmooks]

import them from india or pakistan?
is there a website so i can do that?

[shmooks]

http://www.mehndicreations.com/glitter.htm
http://www.hennacaravan.com/shop/glitter.html

I don't know if thats good enough or what you are looking for....
thanks, already seen hennacaravan n didnt like it, blehh thank you anyway

[shmooks]

jus check at ur local indo/pak stores...they're bound to have big packs somewhere...

i have this huge thing of it...but i got it from india...
they have old glitter ones, so therye dried up n shit

[jus_me]

try ebay.

i had to get some ageeeeeeeeeeeees ago when my cousin had a wedding and we got like 30 tubes of normal mehndi and 10 tubes of glitter mehndi for about 15ish quid.

[sWeEtnDsOuR]

they have old glitter ones, so therye dried up n shit

ew :(

sowwie

[stolen]

i need to get quite a bit of henna and glitter henna for a big event. does anyone know of any good wholesalers i can get it from? cheers

www.ashkumar.com, the make is pretty good.. most of the mehndi sold at local shops dont really work to well.

[zai_alam]

Make some at home for fuck's sake. It can't be that difficult. Women are so lazy these days.


Ingredient List

Henna

Provides the hennotannins that act as a dye (see Catherine Cartwright Jones on August 09, 1999 at 12:37:42). The dye degrades with time, so freshness is important. For most uses, the henna needs to be finely ground into a powder and well-sifted (by the user, generally) in order to make a smooth paste. Both hue and saturation vary widely with the particular batch of henna powder. HPDF contributors have several recommended on-line sources [Henna powder, pre-mix paste, or mud from: Castle Arts, LifeArt Mud, Frontier Herbs], as well as "your local Indian or Middle Eastern grocery store". Beware old henna in the local store, however. Henna kits seem to be overpriced and the henna can be old, but some have reported good results. One HPDF contributor suggests a rough guideline of 1 oz. henna powder to 2 oz. liquid (sondarya on October 14, 1999 at 03:38:10).

Lemon Juice

Provides moisture and acid. The acid releases the dye. This is apparently the most common liquid in North American pastes. (In Middle Eastern regions, the water may be acidic enough to promote dye release.) For most uses, juice should be strained to remove pulp. HPDF report no detectable difference between fresh and reconstituted lemon juice. Lemonade mixes (frozen or powdered) have also been used, with varying degrees of success (check other ingredients, especially sugar vs. corn syrup in the frozen mixes - sugar dries, corn syrup may not). Some of these have enhanced citric acid.

(Posted by Catherine Cartwright Jones on August 01, 1999 at 02:42:01:) "rainwater dye release is ok. At suburban American room temperature henna will release a little dye with just water (7 brown dots in a 50X microscope field in 4 hours) but an acidic paste mix is far more efficient (30+ brown dots and a general color change in 4 hours)" Also see microscope (Catherine Cartwright Jones on August 05, 1999 at 00:42:59 and Catherine Cartwright Jones on September 07, 1999 at 02:08:29)

Vinegar

Moisture and acid; a less-fragrant substitute for lemon juice. (Does not appear to be very popular for mehndi, though often used for hair.)

Citric Acid

Acid for dye release, texture. (See E. on September 04, 1999 at 09:25:47 + discussion following.) One report (Lotus Flower on September 06, 1999 at 06:03:43) of too much citric acid preventing stain and affecting paste texture.

Cloves

Darkens the henna stain; adds fragrance. Clove powder can be added to paste or sealer, if a fine texture is not required. Cloves (whole or powdered) can be boiled in liquid that is then used for paste or sealer. Clove oil can be added to a pre-treatment, paste, or sealer. It is found in New Skin (liquid bandage), some topical anesthetics (especially those used for toothache), some teas, and occasionally other commercial products. Note that clove oil (from oil or from the cloves) can produce an allergic reaction in some people, and undiluted clove oil can produce a rash.

"Cloves contain gallotannic acid, which is a companionable cousinto hennotannic acid. The addition of clove in one form or other makes the henna a tad blacker." (Catherine Cartwright Jones on August 01, 1999 at 16:02:35)

Clove oil can be ordered online from http://www.frontiercoop.com; see 11595.html. Also available in health food stores.

Water

Adds moisture. Hot water also adds heat to aid dye release. Tap water may contain all sorts of chemicals that can affect the henna, so filtered or distilled water is sometimes recommended. For a paste, the water is usually boiled with other ingredients, then strained, then mixed with the powder and further ingredients.

Promotes exfoliation. Having your hands (or skin) in water, particularly water containing chlorine or cleaners, tends to make the skin exfoliate faster and fade the design.

Tea

Adds tannins and increases acidity somewhat. Adds moisture, fragrance, and perhaps texture. Tea is also a traditional paste ingredient, probably because it's a handy hot liquid to mix into the henna powder. (The heat helps dye release.)

Coffee

Adds moisture, fragrance, and perhaps texture. May add some initial color, but does not darken the actual stain. Another traditionally hot liquid (see Tea). Some HPDF contributors report alertness or sleeplessness due to the caffeine absorbed through the skin. (The caffeine effect could possible increase circulation and thus heat, but that's theoretical.)

Lime (limestone - calcium carbonate?)

Probably promotes oxidation. (Lotus Flower on September 06, 1999 at 06:03:43 - don't use alone.)

Dried Limes or Lemons

Add acid (dye release), texture, fragrance, initial color. Dried limes produce a red color in the water when boiled.

Sugar

Most commonly mixed with lemon juice and used as a sealer. The sugar dries to make a coating that protects the paste below. Sugar also adds some stickiness to a paste. It can be cooked to change the texture (see the candy section of a general cookbook) or heated gently to dissolve more sugar into a given amount of liquid (affects drying time).

If outdoors, the sugar can attract insects. Wrap, or substitute New Skin or a peel-mask if this becomes a problem.

Honey

Preservative; also smooths, adds stickiness, and slows drying time. Good for texture adjustment. Honey can slow the dye release from the henna, so you may need to let a honey-paste age (3-5 days?) to get a normal stain; see the HPDF (12184.html thread) for details. Mixing in the honey after the paste has developed will probably not affect the color or timing.

Okra

Adds stickiness and stringiness to the paste, slows the drying and reduces cracking of the dried paste. Okra is boiled in water or water-based mixture, then strained.

Fenugreek (menthi seeds)

Fragrance; adds stickiness and stringiness to the paste. Fenugreek seeds or powder are boiled in water or water-based mixture, then strained.

Eucalyptus oil

Fragrance; opens pores, can stimulate circulation (heat). Can be used as a pre-treatment, in the paste, or in the sealer. Mixed reports as to effect on color. Some people have allergic reactions. As a pre-treatment, use sparingly and wait a few minutes before applying design; avoid having the oil sit on top of the skin (it can be a barrier).

Cooking oil

Drying time, texture. (Smoothness?) As a pre-treatment, may help in paste removal, but it may also interfere with dye absorption. Also post-treatment to aid removal of paste & sealer, and to help make the skin water-resistant.

[Janet on July 06, 1999 at 16:29:22] reports that adding peanut oil to the paste results in a darker stain than the same amount of vegetable oil in the paste. (1 Tbsp. oil per cup of paste.) Can make the skin look more transparent (Catherine Cartwright Jones on May 18, 1999 at 19:33:13).

Petroleum jelly

Not recommended for henna in general; petroleum jelly is reported to have adverse affects on a stain (possible fader). Check handcreams for ingredients if you're trying to make a design last extra-long. Petroleum jelly can be used for removing a liquid latex sealer, however, as petroleum products tend to destroy latex.

Peel-masks

Two kinds: regular (typically cucumber, such as Freeman's Cucumber & Ginseng) and Alpha hydroxy.

Sealer. Transparent and flexible, so it can be good on clients. May be diluted (typically with other sealers and a bit of clove oil). Can wet and smear very fine lines. Can take a while to dry, especially in humid or cold air (hair dryer can help). Can re-absorb moisture and become sticky in humid air. Can be dusted with powder to prevent this (but loses transparency, see HPDF Natasha Papousek on September 26, 1999 at 23:42:36, also Lauri on September 28, 1999 at 20:39:57) It may reduce staining. Can help removal of paste.

Exfoliant (alpha-hydroxy). Also reported to dissolve New Skin. (Example: St. Ives Alpha Hydroxy exfoliating peel-off masque.)

Glue

Sealer. White glue is quite similar to a peel-mask. Can be thinned with lemon juice or water.

Tamarind

Texture, fragrance. No reported color effects. Fruit or paste - usually boiled with liquid for the paste.

Liquid Latex

Sealer and bandage. See, for example, (Posted by Catherine Cartwright Jones on August 02, 1999 at 22:39:00). Does not affect color except to the extent it keeps the skin warm and henna moist. Some people have allergic reactions to latex. Also has depilatory effects (pulls out hair). Can blur the henna if applied directly, without a primary sealer. Highly flexible and tenacious. Adheres to self and peels, so inappropriate for some uses (may be powdered). Henna may stain through latex. Can aid paste removal when peeled off. See also Petroleum Jelly.

New Skin/liquid bandages

Sealer; also darkener, as it contains clove. Highly flexible and sticks to skin; transparent, so designs can be seen through it (clients are less likely to peel the bandages prematurely - but if the New Skin starts peeling around the edge, some people will pick at it). Does not attract insects. Comes in liquid and spray. The spray is unbeatable for preserving fine lines, but needs GOOD ventilation. Liquid version cannot be sprayed, but painting it on can be psychologically useful to promote good post-care in clients (possibly due to good, developed nail-polish habits). There are other brands; clove content may vary. Can smear wet henna. Can stick an outer bandage to the sealer. May fail in a hot, humid environment (such as Houston or a dance club). Typically peels the dried paste off when removed (aids paste removal). Henna may stain through New Skin. (It does not make a good resist, and does not, by itself, protect nearby skin, other parts that may rest against the henna'd skin, or fabric that's in contact with the New Skin & henna for an extended time. New Skin can also stick down makeup on top of a henna design for a temporary cover-up (make sure there's some skin without makeup so the coating can adhere well).

To remove: you can peel it if you're patient or have applied a mask or latex over it. You can stick tape on top and pull, but don't let the tape stick to your henna stain (tape will also remove the topmost skin, and so will lighten your stain). Oil or cocoa butter helps remove New Skin - it may take several applications during the day, and some gentle massage - don't scrub or you'll take the henna design off with it. Some peel-masks seem to dissolve it. A second application of New Skin will dissolve it, but you must wipe it away before it dries again. In general, New Skin will flake off in a day or two even if you do nothing. (On really dead, thick skin, it may not come off at all.)

Ammonia

Oxidizes and exfoliates. On palms and soles, a brief (few minutes) post-treatment of dilute (10%) ammonia can darken the stain. On other skin, the exfoliation overwhelms the oxidation rate, and you lose skin rather than darkening the stain. Ammonia is the key ingredient in many animal urines, which have been used historically to darken the stain of henna. Ammonia is NOT good for your skin, so use with caution. Do NOT mix with chlorine (swimming pools) or bleach, as this creates poisonous chlorine gas. Ammonia is a base and will tend to counteract the effects of acids (ammonia inhibits release of colorant), so it's best avoided in paste and sealers. It's also quite pungent, so have good ventilation if you do use it. (The smell fades quickly as the ammonia evaporates.) On the other hand, if you're going to be scrubbing the floor anyway...

Ammonia spirits

Currently (11/99) under discussion in the HPDF as a darkener (reasons not yet clear). Also known as smelling salts.

Camphor

Can darken stain; may also shorten the life of a stain (though stain may stay dark until it disappears). Pungent. Dangerous if concentrated or applied to delicate areas, so use with great care. Several forms; best success seems to be with camphor spirits (10% camphor in alcohol) or various rubbing lotions. HPDF are experimenting - pre-treatment, paste, sealer, and post-treatment; pre and post seem the most encouraging. May increase circulation and raise skin temperature (although reports are that it feels cool and tingly). Camphor is absorbed quickly and deeply into skin, and can carry other ingredients with it. Because of this, it can be rather nasty to play with - use only in diluted form. Found in many varieties (white camphor essential oil, camphor crystals) and as ingredients in other things, such as muscle rubs (Vick's Vapor Rub, Campho-Phenique, Ben Gay, Icy Hot, White Flower brand oil - Chinese stores, Axe Brand Oil - Singapore). Campho-phenique may also exfoliate (the phenol) deeply (the camphor), counteracting the darkening effect. Camphor can make a paste get lumpy (put the camphor in last if at all); can also speed the process so the paste maxes out faster (it seems to oxidize the paste and make it separate). Honey may slow the lumping. See October & November 1999 threads (several) on the Henna Page Discussion Forum.

Peroxide

Can lighten stain. Use hydrogen peroxide with caution. Generally considered gentler than bleach. (Soak a cotton ball in peroxide and apply to stain several times per day to lighten a stain.)

Bleach

Can lighten stain. Use a dilute solution, and use with caution; this is nasty to skin. Do NOT combine with ammonia; together they make poisonous chlorine gas. Bleach is an ingredient in many scouring powders, so wear gloves if scouring, to protect your hands & design. (Alternatively, if you're trying to get rid of a henna stain, it may be a good time to clean some grungy stuff and get two jobs done at once.)

Detergents

Can promote exfoliation. Minimize if you want a design to last; protect with oil if you must submerge skin in water with detergents.

Flammable liquids

Things like gasoline, kerosene, and turpentine are used in many places to make a darker stain, but they are nasty to the skin and not recommended.

Dyes

Hair dyes, inks, and the like have been used in conjunction with henna. Some are quite nasty and these are not recommended. (May contain "ppd" - this has had some truly appalling effects on skin, leaving scars.) Do not combine henna even with safe dyes unless you've done a sample first, as the chemical reactions can give you some weird colors...like green.

Alpha Hydroxy

Also abbreviated (AH?). This exfoliates the skin. Comes in cleaning scrubs, peel-masks, and other forms. (Is it an ingredient in hair straightener?) Don't use too often at once; exfoliating the outer dead layer of skin is fine, but exfoliating too much is damaging. Can help remove opaque light-colored dead skin (especially around the feet) to make a later henna design more visible. Removes the skin that is stained, so it tends to lighten an existing henna design.

Benadril cream

Shel on October 23, 1999 at 08:02:30 says "to quickly fade a design, sunscreen and benadril cream (for skin allergies) seemed to do the best at fading out the stain."

Glove in a bottle

Skin protection. So-so as a masking fluid before a henna treatment - stain reported to be lighter, but present. As a post-treatment, softens skin but does not seem to slow exfoliation.

Metal and metallic compounds

NOT recommended, as they are potentially toxic. Some metal salts or oxides are used in various dyes, and apparently do make a stain darker, but are not worth the risk unless you really know what you're doing. Mixing an acidic paste in a brass, copper, or aluminum container - or letting the paste sit in one - can add metals unintentionally to your paste. (Glass, plastic, glazed ceramic, and stainless steel are usually safe.)

:neutral:

[shmooks]

try ebay.

i had to get some ageeeeeeeeeeeees ago when my cousin had a wedding and we got like 30 tubes of normal mehndi and 10 tubes of glitter mehndi for about 15ish quid.
ebay don't have any glitter cones, aaaaargh!!!

[jus_me]

ebay don't have any glitter cones, aaaaargh!!!

they must do!

my friend buys them off there all the time.

[shmooks]

Make some at home for fuck's sake. It can't be that difficult. Women are so lazy these days.


Ingredient List

Henna

Provides the hennotannins that act as a dye (see Catherine Cartwright Jones on August 09, 1999 at 12:37:42). The dye degrades with time, so freshness is important. For most uses, the henna needs to be finely ground into a powder and well-sifted (by the user, generally) in order to make a smooth paste. Both hue and saturation vary widely with the particular batch of henna powder. HPDF contributors have several recommended on-line sources [Henna powder, pre-mix paste, or mud from: Castle Arts, LifeArt Mud, Frontier Herbs], as well as "your local Indian or Middle Eastern grocery store". Beware old henna in the local store, however. Henna kits seem to be overpriced and the henna can be old, but some have reported good results. One HPDF contributor suggests a rough guideline of 1 oz. henna powder to 2 oz. liquid (sondarya on October 14, 1999 at 03:38:10).

Lemon Juice

Provides moisture and acid. The acid releases the dye. This is apparently the most common liquid in North American pastes. (In Middle Eastern regions, the water may be acidic enough to promote dye release.) For most uses, juice should be strained to remove pulp. HPDF report no detectable difference between fresh and reconstituted lemon juice. Lemonade mixes (frozen or powdered) have also been used, with varying degrees of success (check other ingredients, especially sugar vs. corn syrup in the frozen mixes - sugar dries, corn syrup may not). Some of these have enhanced citric acid.

(Posted by Catherine Cartwright Jones on August 01, 1999 at 02:42:01:) "rainwater dye release is ok. At suburban American room temperature henna will release a little dye with just water (7 brown dots in a 50X microscope field in 4 hours) but an acidic paste mix is far more efficient (30+ brown dots and a general color change in 4 hours)" Also see microscope (Catherine Cartwright Jones on August 05, 1999 at 00:42:59 and Catherine Cartwright Jones on September 07, 1999 at 02:08:29)

Vinegar

Moisture and acid; a less-fragrant substitute for lemon juice. (Does not appear to be very popular for mehndi, though often used for hair.)

Citric Acid

Acid for dye release, texture. (See E. on September 04, 1999 at 09:25:47 + discussion following.) One report (Lotus Flower on September 06, 1999 at 06:03:43) of too much citric acid preventing stain and affecting paste texture.

Cloves

Darkens the henna stain; adds fragrance. Clove powder can be added to paste or sealer, if a fine texture is not required. Cloves (whole or powdered) can be boiled in liquid that is then used for paste or sealer. Clove oil can be added to a pre-treatment, paste, or sealer. It is found in New Skin (liquid bandage), some topical anesthetics (especially those used for toothache), some teas, and occasionally other commercial products. Note that clove oil (from oil or from the cloves) can produce an allergic reaction in some people, and undiluted clove oil can produce a rash.

"Cloves contain gallotannic acid, which is a companionable cousinto hennotannic acid. The addition of clove in one form or other makes the henna a tad blacker." (Catherine Cartwright Jones on August 01, 1999 at 16:02:35)

Clove oil can be ordered online from http://www.frontiercoop.com; see 11595.html. Also available in health food stores.

Water

Adds moisture. Hot water also adds heat to aid dye release. Tap water may contain all sorts of chemicals that can affect the henna, so filtered or distilled water is sometimes recommended. For a paste, the water is usually boiled with other ingredients, then strained, then mixed with the powder and further ingredients.

Promotes exfoliation. Having your hands (or skin) in water, particularly water containing chlorine or cleaners, tends to make the skin exfoliate faster and fade the design.

Tea

Adds tannins and increases acidity somewhat. Adds moisture, fragrance, and perhaps texture. Tea is also a traditional paste ingredient, probably because it's a handy hot liquid to mix into the henna powder. (The heat helps dye release.)

Coffee

Adds moisture, fragrance, and perhaps texture. May add some initial color, but does not darken the actual stain. Another traditionally hot liquid (see Tea). Some HPDF contributors report alertness or sleeplessness due to the caffeine absorbed through the skin. (The caffeine effect could possible increase circulation and thus heat, but that's theoretical.)

Lime (limestone - calcium carbonate?)

Probably promotes oxidation. (Lotus Flower on September 06, 1999 at 06:03:43 - don't use alone.)

Dried Limes or Lemons

Add acid (dye release), texture, fragrance, initial color. Dried limes produce a red color in the water when boiled.

Sugar

Most commonly mixed with lemon juice and used as a sealer. The sugar dries to make a coating that protects the paste below. Sugar also adds some stickiness to a paste. It can be cooked to change the texture (see the candy section of a general cookbook) or heated gently to dissolve more sugar into a given amount of liquid (affects drying time).

If outdoors, the sugar can attract insects. Wrap, or substitute New Skin or a peel-mask if this becomes a problem.

Honey

Preservative; also smooths, adds stickiness, and slows drying time. Good for texture adjustment. Honey can slow the dye release from the henna, so you may need to let a honey-paste age (3-5 days?) to get a normal stain; see the HPDF (12184.html thread) for details. Mixing in the honey after the paste has developed will probably not affect the color or timing.

Okra

Adds stickiness and stringiness to the paste, slows the drying and reduces cracking of the dried paste. Okra is boiled in water or water-based mixture, then strained.

Fenugreek (menthi seeds)

Fragrance; adds stickiness and stringiness to the paste. Fenugreek seeds or powder are boiled in water or water-based mixture, then strained.

Eucalyptus oil

Fragrance; opens pores, can stimulate circulation (heat). Can be used as a pre-treatment, in the paste, or in the sealer. Mixed reports as to effect on color. Some people have allergic reactions. As a pre-treatment, use sparingly and wait a few minutes before applying design; avoid having the oil sit on top of the skin (it can be a barrier).

Cooking oil

Drying time, texture. (Smoothness?) As a pre-treatment, may help in paste removal, but it may also interfere with dye absorption. Also post-treatment to aid removal of paste & sealer, and to help make the skin water-resistant.

[Janet on July 06, 1999 at 16:29:22] reports that adding peanut oil to the paste results in a darker stain than the same amount of vegetable oil in the paste. (1 Tbsp. oil per cup of paste.) Can make the skin look more transparent (Catherine Cartwright Jones on May 18, 1999 at 19:33:13).

Petroleum jelly

Not recommended for henna in general; petroleum jelly is reported to have adverse affects on a stain (possible fader). Check handcreams for ingredients if you're trying to make a design last extra-long. Petroleum jelly can be used for removing a liquid latex sealer, however, as petroleum products tend to destroy latex.

Peel-masks

Two kinds: regular (typically cucumber, such as Freeman's Cucumber & Ginseng) and Alpha hydroxy.

Sealer. Transparent and flexible, so it can be good on clients. May be diluted (typically with other sealers and a bit of clove oil). Can wet and smear very fine lines. Can take a while to dry, especially in humid or cold air (hair dryer can help). Can re-absorb moisture and become sticky in humid air. Can be dusted with powder to prevent this (but loses transparency, see HPDF Natasha Papousek on September 26, 1999 at 23:42:36, also Lauri on September 28, 1999 at 20:39:57) It may reduce staining. Can help removal of paste.

Exfoliant (alpha-hydroxy). Also reported to dissolve New Skin. (Example: St. Ives Alpha Hydroxy exfoliating peel-off masque.)

Glue

Sealer. White glue is quite similar to a peel-mask. Can be thinned with lemon juice or water.

Tamarind

Texture, fragrance. No reported color effects. Fruit or paste - usually boiled with liquid for the paste.

Liquid Latex

Sealer and bandage. See, for example, (Posted by Catherine Cartwright Jones on August 02, 1999 at 22:39:00). Does not affect color except to the extent it keeps the skin warm and henna moist. Some people have allergic reactions to latex. Also has depilatory effects (pulls out hair). Can blur the henna if applied directly, without a primary sealer. Highly flexible and tenacious. Adheres to self and peels, so inappropriate for some uses (may be powdered). Henna may stain through latex. Can aid paste removal when peeled off. See also Petroleum Jelly.

New Skin/liquid bandages

Sealer; also darkener, as it contains clove. Highly flexible and sticks to skin; transparent, so designs can be seen through it (clients are less likely to peel the bandages prematurely - but if the New Skin starts peeling around the edge, some people will pick at it). Does not attract insects. Comes in liquid and spray. The spray is unbeatable for preserving fine lines, but needs GOOD ventilation. Liquid version cannot be sprayed, but painting it on can be psychologically useful to promote good post-care in clients (possibly due to good, developed nail-polish habits). There are other brands; clove content may vary. Can smear wet henna. Can stick an outer bandage to the sealer. May fail in a hot, humid environment (such as Houston or a dance club). Typically peels the dried paste off when removed (aids paste removal). Henna may stain through New Skin. (It does not make a good resist, and does not, by itself, protect nearby skin, other parts that may rest against the henna'd skin, or fabric that's in contact with the New Skin & henna for an extended time. New Skin can also stick down makeup on top of a henna design for a temporary cover-up (make sure there's some skin without makeup so the coating can adhere well).

To remove: you can peel it if you're patient or have applied a mask or latex over it. You can stick tape on top and pull, but don't let the tape stick to your henna stain (tape will also remove the topmost skin, and so will lighten your stain). Oil or cocoa butter helps remove New Skin - it may take several applications during the day, and some gentle massage - don't scrub or you'll take the henna design off with it. Some peel-masks seem to dissolve it. A second application of New Skin will dissolve it, but you must wipe it away before it dries again. In general, New Skin will flake off in a day or two even if you do nothing. (On really dead, thick skin, it may not come off at all.)

Ammonia

Oxidizes and exfoliates. On palms and soles, a brief (few minutes) post-treatment of dilute (10%) ammonia can darken the stain. On other skin, the exfoliation overwhelms the oxidation rate, and you lose skin rather than darkening the stain. Ammonia is the key ingredient in many animal urines, which have been used historically to darken the stain of henna. Ammonia is NOT good for your skin, so use with caution. Do NOT mix with chlorine (swimming pools) or bleach, as this creates poisonous chlorine gas. Ammonia is a base and will tend to counteract the effects of acids (ammonia inhibits release of colorant), so it's best avoided in paste and sealers. It's also quite pungent, so have good ventilation if you do use it. (The smell fades quickly as the ammonia evaporates.) On the other hand, if you're going to be scrubbing the floor anyway...

Ammonia spirits

Currently (11/99) under discussion in the HPDF as a darkener (reasons not yet clear). Also known as smelling salts.

Camphor

Can darken stain; may also shorten the life of a stain (though stain may stay dark until it disappears). Pungent. Dangerous if concentrated or applied to delicate areas, so use with great care. Several forms; best success seems to be with camphor spirits (10% camphor in alcohol) or various rubbing lotions. HPDF are experimenting - pre-treatment, paste, sealer, and post-treatment; pre and post seem the most encouraging. May increase circulation and raise skin temperature (although reports are that it feels cool and tingly). Camphor is absorbed quickly and deeply into skin, and can carry other ingredients with it. Because of this, it can be rather nasty to play with - use only in diluted form. Found in many varieties (white camphor essential oil, camphor crystals) and as ingredients in other things, such as muscle rubs (Vick's Vapor Rub, Campho-Phenique, Ben Gay, Icy Hot, White Flower brand oil - Chinese stores, Axe Brand Oil - Singapore). Campho-phenique may also exfoliate (the phenol) deeply (the camphor), counteracting the darkening effect. Camphor can make a paste get lumpy (put the camphor in last if at all); can also speed the process so the paste maxes out faster (it seems to oxidize the paste and make it separate). Honey may slow the lumping. See October & November 1999 threads (several) on the Henna Page Discussion Forum.

Peroxide

Can lighten stain. Use hydrogen peroxide with caution. Generally considered gentler than bleach. (Soak a cotton ball in peroxide and apply to stain several times per day to lighten a stain.)

Bleach

Can lighten stain. Use a dilute solution, and use with caution; this is nasty to skin. Do NOT combine with ammonia; together they make poisonous chlorine gas. Bleach is an ingredient in many scouring powders, so wear gloves if scouring, to protect your hands & design. (Alternatively, if you're trying to get rid of a henna stain, it may be a good time to clean some grungy stuff and get two jobs done at once.)

Detergents

Can promote exfoliation. Minimize if you want a design to last; protect with oil if you must submerge skin in water with detergents.

Flammable liquids

Things like gasoline, kerosene, and turpentine are used in many places to make a darker stain, but they are nasty to the skin and not recommended.

Dyes

Hair dyes, inks, and the like have been used in conjunction with henna. Some are quite nasty and these are not recommended. (May contain "ppd" - this has had some truly appalling effects on skin, leaving scars.) Do not combine henna even with safe dyes unless you've done a sample first, as the chemical reactions can give you some weird colors...like green.

Alpha Hydroxy

Also abbreviated (AH?). This exfoliates the skin. Comes in cleaning scrubs, peel-masks, and other forms. (Is it an ingredient in hair straightener?) Don't use too often at once; exfoliating the outer dead layer of skin is fine, but exfoliating too much is damaging. Can help remove opaque light-colored dead skin (especially around the feet) to make a later henna design more visible. Removes the skin that is stained, so it tends to lighten an existing henna design.

Benadril cream

Shel on October 23, 1999 at 08:02:30 says "to quickly fade a design, sunscreen and benadril cream (for skin allergies) seemed to do the best at fading out the stain."

Glove in a bottle

Skin protection. So-so as a masking fluid before a henna treatment - stain reported to be lighter, but present. As a post-treatment, softens skin but does not seem to slow exfoliation.

Metal and metallic compounds

NOT recommended, as they are potentially toxic. Some metal salts or oxides are used in various dyes, and apparently do make a stain darker, but are not worth the risk unless you really know what you're doing. Mixing an acidic paste in a brass, copper, or aluminum container - or letting the paste sit in one - can add metals unintentionally to your paste. (Glass, plastic, glazed ceramic, and stainless steel are usually safe.)

:neutral:
:squintFa:

[shmooks]

they must do!

my friend buys them off there all the time.
i can't find em!!

i dont suppose youhappen to know who the seller is on ebayso i could find it that way?

[zai_alam]

:squintFa:

kiss my fucking vagina! :waveyFin:

[jus_me]

i can't find em!!

i dont suppose youhappen to know who the seller is on ebayso i could find it that way?

i only bought them once but she buys them frequently so i could ask her for you.

go to southall and get the glittery ones from there though if, as you say the ones in the shops near you are crap, i doubt the southall ones will be any better, neither will the ones from ebay.

[alum rock gal]

Salaam, I normally use "Singhar" mehndi Or "Nadra" Mehndi on brides that i do. Its really nice and dark comes in a cone ready to use and its only a pound each from my area :$ Sorry i dont know anywhere online wher u can get em from tho Hope it was some help... lol :(

[di vinci]

is there a website so i can do that?
dunno

[jus_me]

dunno


lol, why bother saying anything :neutral:

[shmooks]

kiss my fucking vagina! :waveyFin:
you have a bagina?!!!!!!

[shmooks]

i only bought them once but she buys them frequently so i could ask her for you.

go to southall and get the glittery ones from there though if, as you say the ones in the shops near you are crap, i doubt the southall ones will be any better, neither will the ones from ebay.
nahh its just cos no one buys them from there. i bought quite a few from the nec mela last year and they were awesome.

anyway if you could ask for me itd be really appreciated, or even what she searches for cos i tried glitter henna and mehndi n it doesnt work

[zai_alam]

you have a bagina?!!!!!!

No. I just say that to everyone :dunno:

[shmooks]

Salaam, I normally use "Singhar" mehndi Or "Nadra" Mehndi on brides that i do. Its really nice and dark comes in a cone ready to use and its only a pound each from my area :$ Sorry i dont know anywhere online wher u can get em from tho Hope it was some help... lol :(

where do you get them from? cos im in bham often so wouldnt mind goin out there. also do you use glitter mehndi n know where to get decent one?

[alum rock gal]

where do you get them from? cos im in bham often so wouldnt mind goin out there. also do you use glitter mehndi n know where to get decent one?
Yeah Alum Rock Road.. "Euro Pak" They do sell glitter mendi loads off diff colours. they'r a pound as well. I'll check for you again 2be sure, lol

[ilyas@!!oops!!]

lush is awesome.. but i was looking for some that you apply on hands etc thanks anyway
yeh u can with that one! :wavey:

[shmooks]

No. I just say that to everyone :dunno:
you do not sound cool, foo :hand:

[shmooks]

Yeah Alum Rock Road.. "Euro Pak" They do sell glitter mendi loads off diff colours. they'r a pound as well. I'll check for you again 2be sure, lol
aw thanks, what side of alum rock road is that on? is it more near town ends or the side closer to small heath

[shmooks]

yeh u can with that one! :wavey:
can you?!

hmm aw3some. cheers

[ilyas@!!oops!!]

can you?!

hmm aw3some. cheers
the one i use is quite strong........just go to lush

it's dark green colour............ :wavey:

[shmooks]

the one i use is quite strong........just go to lush

it's dark green colour............ :wavey:
k will do. thanks

[alum rock gal]

aw thanks, what side of alum rock road is that on? is it more near town ends or the side closer to small heath
Its towards town... Just before the saltley round about?? Oppasite aziz textiles lol :p

[shmooks]

Its towards town... Just before the saltley round about?? Oppasite aziz textiles lol :p
hehe thanks hun i'll check it out!

[alum rock gal]

hehe thanks hun i'll check it out!
Ur welcome :D hope you get the rights ones InshAllah Ohhh and if u no ne1 4rm my area (Birmingham- Alum rock/washwood heath/Sparkhill gettin married and needs bridal mendi done lemi no pweeez ;)

[zai_alam]

you do not sound cool, foo :hand:

What if i changed vagina to... fanny. Would it be better?

[SSSash]

What if i changed vagina to... fanny. Would it be better?

fanny's always good...

http://forums.ratedesi.com/showthread.php?t=182189&highlight=fanny

[zai_alam]

fanny's always good...

http://forums.ratedesi.com/showthread.php?t=182189&highlight=fanny

I typed the word fanny in google image search and...

http://www.holsterheaven.com/handgun-fanny-pack.jpg

Apparently it's a 'pistol fanny pack'.

:ugh2:

[SSSash]

I typed the word fanny in google image search and...

http://www.holsterheaven.com/handgun-fanny-pack.jpg

Apparently it's a 'pistol fanny pack'.

:ugh2:

wtf??

looks and sounds very american.. can imagine some grandma with one of those usa viser hats and big fuckoff shades wearing one.

[zai_alam]

wtf??

looks and sounds very american.. can imagine some grandma with one of those usa viser hats and big fuckoff shades wearing one.


http://www.wayodd.com/funny-pictures2/funny-pictures-super-granny-40q.jpg

http://store4.intermarkproductions.com/accounts4/3477/clip_images/granny2_1.jpg

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/shared-blogs/palmbeach/cerabino/media/granny%20gun.jpg

:wtf:

[SSSash]

That last one !! wudnt fuck with her !! or the 2nd one tbh :wtf:

[zai_alam]

That last one !! wudnt fuck with her !! or the 2nd one tbh :wtf:

First one too. Looks like she's got a black belt in taikuando, judo, kung-fu or some shit like that.

[shmooks]

Ur welcome :D hope you get the rights ones InshAllah Ohhh and if u no ne1 4rm my area (Birmingham- Alum rock/washwood heath/Sparkhill gettin married and needs bridal mendi done lemi no pweeez ;)
do you do bridal make up n henna n that? how do you advertise?

[shmooks]

What if i changed vagina to... fanny. Would it be better?
you are a sick, sick man.

[zai_alam]

you are a sick, sick man.

:kiss:

[random guy]

www.juvani.co.uk

[shmooks]

www.juvani.co.uk
thanks.. but thats still retail prices.. theres this one site that do the prefect stuff but i dont know how to get info out of her as in who supplys her wholesale stuff?

[stolen]

http://www.ashkumar.co.uk/index2.htm

^the make is very good...

http://www.revelasia.com/productsak.php?cat=35

[SSSash]

First one too. Looks like she's got a black belt in taikuando, judo, kung-fu or some shit like that.

Ever wonder when "kick her in the fanny and run" could be considered good advice?