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Bamiyan
April 13th, 2007, 05:37 PM
Buddhist woman burned alive in Muslim south Thailand
YALA, Thailand (Reuters) - A Buddhist woman was shot and burned alive in Thailand's violence-torn Muslim-majority south on Wednesday, prompting angry protests in front of visiting army chief Sonthi Boonyaratglin.
Watcharaporn Boonmak, 26, was ambushed by gunmen as she rode her motorcycle through a Muslim village in Yala, one of the three southern provinces roiled by three years of separatist insurgency in which more than 2,000 people have been killed.

"She might have been shot in the stomach before they set fire to her and her motorcycle," a Yala police officer, who asked to remain anonymous, told Reuters by telephone.

One of her relatives told Reuters that witnesses at the scene heard Watcharaporn, a garage clerk, screaming and crawling along the road for help but nobody dared respond for fear of reprisals.

Even by the standards of a conflict that has seen well over a dozen civilians beheaded, it was a shocking incident.

"It is the most cruel and brutal thing I've seen in my life," Jaran Kongchuay said as he joined hundreds of Buddhists bearing Watcharaporn's charred body on a hospital stretcher to the provincial hall, demanding action from Sonthi. ADVERTISEMENT



"Beheading or burning alive, no one is arrested!" one of their placards read. "Will the government please pay closer attention to the three southern border provinces?" another said.

Sonthi promised help for Watcharaporn's family and vowed to hunt down her killers -- even though arrests and successful prosecutions in the region, where 80 percent of people ethnic Malay Muslims, are extremely rare.

In the same village in December, two male Buddhist teachers were shot dead when their pickup truck only 300 metres from the village school. Their bodies were also torched.

INCREASINGLY BRUTAL

Army spokesman Colonel Acra Tiproch said the insurgents, who have never made their aims public, had become increasingly brutal towards civilians in response to a police and military campaign to root out militant cells.

One of the main problems for the mainly Buddhist security forces is that they receive little or no assistance from the Muslim population.

Watcharaporn's murder is likely to inflame tensions between Muslims and Buddhists in the region, an independent sultanate until annexed by Bangkok a century ago.

On Monday, Buddhist defence volunteers shot and killed four Muslims - including two teenage boys -- after an altercation with mourners leaving the funeral of a Muslim village chief who had been blown up in a booby-trapped vehicle earlier in the day.

While regretting the incident, details of which remain murky, army spokesman Acra said the volunteers' actions were justified.

"They were acting in self-defence as the Muslim mourners were hurling stones at the Buddhist villagers," he said.

On Tuesday, security forces arrested 11 Muslim men in a raid on two villages in Yala, seizing five firearms, hundreds of rounds of ammunition and 200 kg of fertiliser thought to be for making bombs, Acra said.

This is disgusting and uncalled for, absolutely unIslamic.

Some Muslims really need to get their act togther. Just because you are oppressed doesn't give you the right to burn a poor defenseless woman alive.

These idiots most likely got their brutal tactics from Indonesian and Filipino extremists who behead innocent people and have the fucking nerve to claim they are fighting on behalf of Islam.

I'm sorry but I will not be part of this if this is considered "jihad" by many Muslims.

pakilicious911
April 13th, 2007, 05:39 PM
your sayin that as if all Muslims around the world did that...

jus cuz a couple people in general have to be stupid doesnt mean everyone is

Midnight_Toker
April 13th, 2007, 05:41 PM
your sayin that as if all Muslims around the world did that...

jus cuz a couple people in general have to be stupid doesnt mean everyone is

:werd:

that's like saying all christians, especially baptists, hate and kill blacks, jews, and catholics

^
KKK members obviously

Bamiyan
April 13th, 2007, 05:42 PM
your sayin that as if all Muslims around the world did that...

jus cuz a couple people in general have to be stupid doesnt mean everyone is

Can we stop being in denial?

Look around you, a lot of Muslims have been engaging in disgusting barbarity, even against each other.

Just look at Iraq, we have no problem killing each other.

All I said is when people read articles like this over and over for the past decade, you can't really blame non-Muslims for having a skewed perception of Muslims.

And I say decade because it has been occurring prior to 9/11. Just look at what the "glorious" mujahiddeen have accomplished in Algeria during their civil war, beheading innocent villagers and in Egypt, by killing 58 tourists in Luxor.

Lord Jigar
April 13th, 2007, 05:44 PM
Its because we dont watch them being civil slaying animals in sacrifice. We see them terrorizing.

DaSuckaPunch
April 13th, 2007, 05:44 PM
What the fuck is with all these bullshit threads about muslims,find something better to do you fuckin prick.

Bamiyan
April 13th, 2007, 05:44 PM
What the fuck is with all these bullshit threads about muslims,find something better to do you fuckin prick.

Retard, I'm Muslim.

HybridIndian
April 13th, 2007, 05:44 PM
This is disgusting and uncalled for, absolutely unIslamic.

Some Muslims really need to get their act togther. Just because you are oppressed doesn't give you the right to burn a poor defenseless woman alive.

These idiots most likely got their brutal tactics from Indonesian and Filipino extremists who behead innocent people and have the fucking nerve to claim they are fighting on behalf of Islam.

I'm sorry but I will not be part of this if this is considered "jihad" by many Muslims.I totally agree with you. Being Muslim myself, you are taught ot respect other people's religions and beliefs. No where does it say in our Holy Quran or any script that those that are non-believers need to be killed.

In fact, it states that Muslims should convert people by setting a good example, not by forcing people to convert.

I hope that everyone with some sense of understanding will realize that this radical behavior in disguise of "Jihad" is completely wrong.

pakilicious911
April 13th, 2007, 05:45 PM
Can we stop being in denial?

Look around you, a lot of Muslims have been engaging in disgusting barbarity, even against each other.

Just look at Iraq, we have no problem killing each other.

All I said is when people read articles like this over and over for the past decade, you can't really blame non-Muslims for having a skewed perception of Muslims.

And I say decade because it has been occurring prior to 9/11. Just look at what the "glorious" mujahiddeen have accomplished in Algeria during their civil war, beheading innocent villagers and in Egypt, by killing 58 tourists in Luxor.

being in denial? i didnt deny some muslims are jus plain stupid...but im stating a fact that NOT EVERY MUSLIM IS LIKE THAT...

I'm a proud muslim but u don see me blowin up shit...so how can u even say that? yeah there are some extremest doesnt mean you gota turn the whole world against muslims in general.

get ur facts straight before u come ranting out like that

pakilicious911
April 13th, 2007, 05:46 PM
I totally agree with you. Being Muslim myself, you are taught ot respect other people's religions and beliefs. No where does it say in our Holy Quran or any script that those that are non-believers need to be killed.

In fact, it states that Muslims should convert people by setting a good example, not by forcing people to convert.

I hope that everyone with some sense of understanding will realize that this radical behavior in disguise of "Jihad" is completely wrong.
:rolleyes:

who said all muslims are killing people of other religions? or not tryin to spread the word of Islam?

thousands of people convert to Islam so there must be SOMETHING goin on

Bamiyan
April 13th, 2007, 05:47 PM
:rolleyes:

who said all muslims are killing people of other religions? or not tryin to spread the word of Islam?

thousands of people convert to Islam so there must be SOMETHING goin on

Muslims are, stop denying it.

DaSuckaPunch
April 13th, 2007, 05:49 PM
Retard, I'm Muslim.

My bad,still...go fuck yourself :eek:

pakilicious911
April 13th, 2007, 05:50 PM
Muslims are, stop denying it.
:rolleyes: ur jus bein ignorant...

good luck with life

pakilicious911
April 13th, 2007, 05:50 PM
oh and IVE NEVER KILLED ANYBODY IN MY LIFE...

thas jus for the record

Bamiyan
April 13th, 2007, 05:53 PM
:rolleyes: ur jus bein ignorant...

good luck with life

I'm not being ignorant sweetheart, just realistic.

9/11, 7/7, Beslan, Algiers, Casablanca, Quetta, Riyadh, Amman, Madrid, Paris, 7/11, Hilla, Najaf, Karbala, etc. are all living proof of the brutality espoused by misguided Muslims.

reaz
April 13th, 2007, 05:56 PM
question: are you shi'ite?

Bamiyan
April 13th, 2007, 05:56 PM
question: are you shi'ite?

Yes I am, and before you ask, no I do not support Muqtada al-Sadr and his notorious death squads.

And UT sucks. :D

pakilicious911
April 13th, 2007, 05:57 PM
I'm not being ignorant sweetheart, just realistic.

9/11, 7/7, Beslan, Algiers, Casablanca, Quetta, Riyadh, Amman, Madrid, Paris, 7/11, Hilla, Najaf, Karbala, etc. are all living proof of the brutality espoused by misguided Muslims.
its funny ur pinning on the history of jus wat muslims have done...it'd be nice if you researched into other stuff too

and u are bein ignorant... people make 9/11 seem like it was a religious act...and jus becuz MUSLIMS did it doesnt make it a religious act...

anytime anyone muslim does somethin "omgosh muslims are so bad they shud rot"

BornToBreak_Rulz
April 13th, 2007, 05:58 PM
Yes I am, and before you ask, no I do not support Muqtada al-Sadr and his notorious death squads.

And UT sucks. :D

We like killing ppl u have a problem with that?

boomchuck
April 13th, 2007, 05:59 PM
We like killing ppl u have a problem with that?

Stfu

Bamiyan
April 13th, 2007, 06:00 PM
its funny ur pinning on the history of jus wat muslims have done...it'd be nice if you researched into other stuff too

and u are bein ignorant... people make 9/11 seem like it was a religious act...and jus becuz MUSLIMS did it doesnt make it a religious act...

anytime anyone muslim does somethin "omgosh muslims are so bad they shud rot"

Here's a couple of excerpts from two of the London bombers:

Mohammed Siddique Khan

I and thousands like me are forsaking everything for what we believe. Our drive and motivation doesn't come from tangible commodities that this world has to offer. Our religion is Islam, obedience to the one true God and following the footsteps of the final prophet messenger.
Your democratically elected governments continuously perpetuate atrocities against my people all over the world. And your support of them makes you directly responsible, just as I am directly responsible for protecting and avenging my Muslim brothers and sisters.
Until we feel security you will be our targets and until you stop the bombing, gassing, imprisonment and torture of my people we will not stop this fight. We are at war and I am a soldier. Now you too will taste the reality of this situation.

And another from Shehzad Tanweer

you have done to deserve this. You are those who have voted in your government who in turn have and still continue to this day continue to oppress our mothers and children, brothers and sisters from the east to the west in Palestine, Afghanistan, Iraq and Chechnya. Your government has openly supported the genocide of more than 150, 000 innocent Muslims in Fallujah.

We are 100 per cent committed to the cause of Islam. We love death the way you love life. I tell all you British citizens to stop your support to your lying British government and to the so-called war on terror. And ask yourselves: why would thousands of men be ready to give their lives for the cause of Muslims?
What you have witnessed now is only the beginning of a series of attacks which will intensify and continue to until you pull all your troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq. Until you stop all financial and military support to the US and Israel and until you release all Muslim prisoners from Belmarsh and your other concentration camps. And know that if you fail to comply with this then know that this war will never stop and that we are willing to give our lives 100 times over for the cause of Islam. You will never experience peace until our children in Palestine, our mothers and sisters in Kashmir, and our brothers in Afghanistan and Iraq feel peace.

It's not just Muslim involvement that made it a "religious" act; rather the use of Islamic rhetoric to make it one.

Bamiyan
April 13th, 2007, 06:00 PM
We like killing ppl u have a problem with that?

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pakilicious911
April 13th, 2007, 06:01 PM
Here's a couple of excerpts from two of the London bombers:

Mohammed Siddique Khan

And another from Shehzad Tanweer

It's not just Muslim involvement that made it a "religious" act; rather the use of Islamic rhetoric to make it one.


:rolleyes: like i said extremist exist and those people rite there are examples...they'll use Islam as an excuse to do anything

reaz
April 13th, 2007, 06:02 PM
Yes I am, and before you ask, no I do not support Muqtada al-Sadr and his notorious death squads.

And UT sucks. :D

No, I am mildly amused. One of the reasons why muslims are looked upon as savages when CNN airs the brutal self mutilation shi'ites in some parts of pakistan (and surrounding nations) inflict upon themselves to mourn. We're talking about Ashurah I believe.

Fight_Tibet
April 13th, 2007, 06:02 PM
Humans commiting barbarous acts against each other is just in the nature of the potential evil that resides in each and every human being...it has nothing to do with being muslim or hindu or buddhist or christian or sikh or belonging to any group for that matter...it is a flaw that is at the core of human nature and humans for centuries have been either falling prey to this weakness or overcoming it with their will...
humans have been committing genocides against each other way before Islam was even founded...we have been killing each other even before the whole concept of religion was ever founded in this world...yesterday it was in the name of survival..today its in the name of Islam...tomorrow it would be in the name of homosexuality who knows...

Bamiyan
April 13th, 2007, 06:02 PM
:rolleyes: like i said extremist exist and those people rite there are examples...they'll use Islam as an excuse to do anything

The scary part is that these people were raised in England and held normal lives. The ringleader had a wife and 10 month old baby girl, and was a teacher for disabled schoolchildren.

Bamiyan
April 13th, 2007, 06:04 PM
No, I am mildly amused. One of the reasons why muslims are looked upon as savages when CNN airs the brutal self mutilation shi'ites in some parts of pakistan (and surrounding nations) inflict upon themselves to mourn. We're talking about Ashurah I believe.

Christians in the southern Phillipines re-enact the crucification of Jesus Christ, what's the big deal?

pakilicious911
April 13th, 2007, 06:05 PM
The scary part is that these people were raised in England and held normal lives. The ringleader had a wife and 10 month old baby girl, and was a teacher for disabled schoolchildren.
the media needs something to make a big hype about, Islam was their target after 9/11 and everyone that involved muslims also became a part of it...eventually they'll find somethin else when the people get tired of blaming shit on muslims...

make a thread then abt watever hits big

pakilicious911
April 13th, 2007, 06:06 PM
Christians in the southern Phillipines re-enact the crucification of Jesus Christ, what's the big deal?
Christianity is a Big religion of the US...they're not gona make a big deal about it becuz then they'll be accusin themselves (their own religion) of doin shit

reaz
April 13th, 2007, 06:06 PM
Christians in the southern Phillipines re-enact the crucification of Jesus Christ, what's the big deal?

yea. our religion needs to progress. that's what i am hinting at.

BornToBreak_Rulz
April 13th, 2007, 06:06 PM
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really maybe u didnt get it shall i kill and then ask?

hussa16
April 13th, 2007, 06:11 PM
Another BULLSHIT thread by this Bamiyan chick. You really need some help Bamiyan. First its blaming Pakistan on why your dumbass Baluchis are so retarded, now blaming all muslims about some retard in Thailand committing a crime. You need to use your time more constructively.