Why do certain people dislike or hate cupcakes?

[ilyas@!!oops!!]

:sarb:?

[muslimbeauty06]

cause some ppl are a disgrace to Us all thats why.

[Spiky]

Coz you all are teriristz. DOH!

[parkinlotpimp]

cause some ppl are a disgrace to Us all thats why.
yea a few rotten apples make the whole bunch look bad

[misspathani.]

September 11th :Paper:

[roy_desi]

people of the muzlamic faith are a threat to peace.

[_A-s-H-i_]

yea a few rotten apples make the whole bunch look bad
sad but tru

[muslimbeauty06]

yea a few rotten apples make the whole bunch look bad
yup. :thumleft:

[-SyLpH-]

cuz bad ppl always hate da gud ones

[Midnight_Toker]

i find this thread retarded..and im a muslim :neutral:

[kohli_sahib]

because all muslims do is talk about how much they're hated / oppressed.

when the fact of the matter is, they're the most intolerant people on earth.

[Midnight_Toker]

edit...double post :neutral:

[jimbo123]

Because of 24.

Nah not really, I love that show!

There's too many muslim stereotypes ingrained in people's heads.

[kohli_sahib]

i find this thread retarded..and im a muslim :neutral:
thank you sir.

[kohli_sahib]

people of the muzlamic faith are a threat to peace.
lol @ muzlamic.

[.Mazzy.]

Muslims overreact to certain situations. In the media, we've seen many movies, cartoons, etc. simply slaughter other religions BUT, no one touches Islam; no one touches Islam 'cause we'd be ready to start a WWIII. Let it be noted, when other religions are slaughtered[Beliefs..], Muslims are the first ones to laugh with their fuckin' mouths opened as wide as humanly possible.

[DtotheEVENDORF]

We hate what we fear.

Final answer: Out of fear.

[kohli_sahib]

is because we are mad or we speak the truth
there are alot people in london who fear musilms for some reason :no: :Paper: :neutral:
about the london part, you think its because of you know, those guys with the bombs a couple years ago?

[kohli_sahib]

Muslims overreact to certain situations. In the media, we've seen many movies, cartoons, etc. simply slaughter other religions BUT, no one touches Islam; no one touches Islam 'cause we'd be ready to start a WWIII. Let it be noted, when other religions are slaughtered[Beliefs..], Muslims are the first ones to laugh with their fuckin' mouths opened as wide as humanly possible.
holy shit you actually made sense.

[xplosion]

because all muslims do is talk about how much they're hated / oppressed.

when the fact of the matter is, they're the most intolerant people on earth.

what this mofo said....

[.Mazzy.]

holy shit you actually made sense.
I always make sense you Amish-gimp.

[Spiky]

I hate teh Muzzies primarily coz of RD.

[shy_sadia]

Because muslim men get to fuck around with white trash and latinos before marriage then they go marry a sweet gullible hijabi virgin.... :neutral:

[.Mazzy.]

Muslims overreact to certain situations. In the media, we've seen many movies, cartoons, etc. simply slaughter other religions BUT, no one touches Islam; no one touches Islam 'cause we'd be ready to start a WWIII. Let it be noted, when other religions are slaughtered[Beliefs..], Muslims are the first ones to laugh with their fuckin' mouths opened as wide as humanly possible.
:wavey:

[kohli_sahib]

I always make sense you Amish-gimp.
Jebediah's the name. And yes, i have a limp, so?

[.Mazzy.]

Jebediah's the name. And yes, i have a limp, so?
G-G-G-G UNIT!!!

[muslimbeauty06]

Muslims overreact to certain situations. In the media, we've seen many movies, cartoons, etc. simply slaughter other religions BUT, no one touches Islam; no one touches Islam 'cause we'd be ready to start a WWIII. Let it be noted, when other religions are slaughtered[Beliefs..], Muslims are the first ones to laugh with their fuckin' mouths opened as wide as humanly possible.
:neutral:

[DtotheEVENDORF]

holy shit you actually made sense.

Yes, except he forgot the principle of separation of extremists from moderists (I don't care if that isn't a word... I said it therefore it stands).

That may be true for anyone exercising a faith under austere principles, but for a society becoming so secular...think twice.

White person asks me once he learns I'm Pakistani after many disgusting guesses... "Does that mean you hate Indians?"

:-( People have such a narrow view sometimes.

[shy_sadia]

those who are serious for the religion well they have a lot of restrictions in life...but in general they are okay ppl..then again all religions generally aim at making ppl into well functionning individuals in the society or else God or the Government will not be pleased

[PuNjabi_RaNi*]

No offence but it's not just muslims.. :dunno:

Other religions get enough negative comments as well - just because you cant see it as much doesnt mean everything is smelling like roses.

[Spiky]

Because Paki illiterates give all musilms a bad name?

[kashif1986]

This thread will jus make things worse here

[-SyLpH-]

people of the muzlamic faith are a threat to peace.
yes :(

[Monica152]

cuz u guys r TERRorists!

im jp

plus many pple from london just like dislike desi pple
period! Not just muslims but hindus and sikhs as well
Plus after what happened at the airport their a little shocked

[muslimbeauty06]

Because Paki illiterates give all musilms a bad name?
:neutral:

[R.J]

It's all in your head.........

[Spiky]

Muslims overreact to certain situations. In the media, we've seen many movies, cartoons, etc. simply slaughter other religions BUT, no one touches Islam; no one touches Islam 'cause we'd be ready to start a WWIII. Let it be noted, when other religions are slaughtered[Beliefs..], Muslims are the first ones to laugh with their fuckin' mouths opened as wide as humanly possible.

Well guess you arent overreacting at all.

[.Mazzy.]

Yes, except he forgot the principle of separation of extremists from moderists (I don't care if that isn't a word... I said it therefore it stands).

That may be true for anyone exercising a faith under austere principles, but for a society becoming so secular...think twice.

White person asks me once he learns I'm Pakistani after many disgusting guesses... "Does that mean you hate Indians?"

:-( People have such a narrow view sometimes.
Over 10 nations boycotting products from one nation 'cause of cartoons isn't extreme?

lmmfao..

[muslimbeauty06]

This thread will jus make things worse here
word! :shrug_no:

[kohli_sahib]

Yes, except he forgot the principle of separation of extremists from moderists (I don't care if that isn't a word... I said it therefore it stands).

That may be true for anyone exercising a faith under austere principles, but for a society becoming so secular...think twice.

White person asks me once he learns I'm Pakistani after many disgusting guesses... "Does that mean you hate Indians?"

:-( People have such a narrow view sometimes.

agreed for the most part. but "moderists" or moderate muslims, hell even LIBERAL muslims are still fairly intolerant and jump on any bandwagon bashing other relgions until it comes to someone even being remotely critical of islam, at which time they resort to personal attacks as their rebuttle.

[Spiky]

:neutral:


What up butternips?

[.Mazzy.]

:neutral:
What? I'm not bs'ing.

[shy_sadia]

It's all in your head.........
:lol:

[misspathani.]

This thread will jus make things worse here


W
E
R
D

[.Mazzy.]

Well guess you arent overreacting at all.
Sarcasm much?

[kohli_sahib]

No offence but it's not just muslims.. :dunno:

Other religions get enough negative comments as well - just because you cant see it as much doesnt mean everything is smelling like roses.
The majority of muslims (at least on RD) believe that the kaffirs (us) are all out to get them, constantly.

[muslimbeauty06]

Why is it ON RD ppl are always after Muslims?Get over it ppl and ILYAS made it worse by making a thread..

[hindu_heat]

Fundamentalist - Muslims, Christians and Jews all have the same essential problem.

They are usually self-righteous, intolerant and hypocritical.

Pressing your beliefs on anyone makes you come off as super-egotistical and arrogant.

"I'm right and you're all wrong! You don't agree with me so you're going to burn in an imaginary place that has no scientific backing for all of eternity!"

Pathetic.

[Midnight_Toker]

Because muslim men get to fuck around with white trash and latinos before marriage then they go marry a sweet gullible hijabi virgin.... :neutral:

whoa there? that's like 70-85% false generalization among muslim guys

and by the way sweet gullible hijabi virgins??? i guess you have never heard about them hoejabis :lol:

[muslimbeauty06]

The majority of muslims (at least on RD) believe that the kaffirs (us) are all out to get them, constantly.
dude no we dont..what are you talking about?WE ONLY THINK THAT ABOUT BUSH..

[PuNjabi_RaNi*]

lol

some would ask the question " why do people dislike/hate jews so much?"

[kohli_sahib]

Fundamentalist - Muslims, Christians and Jews all have the same essential problem.

They are usually self-righteous, intolerant and hypocritical.

Pressing your beliefs on anyone makes you come off as super-egotistical and arrogant.

"I'm right and you're all wrong! You don't agree with me so you're going to burn in an imaginary place that has no scientific backing for all of eternity!"

Pathetic.
Abrahamic Relgions suck.

[roy_desi]

Yes, except he forgot the principle of separation of extremists from moderists

moderates.

[DtotheEVENDORF]

Over 10 nations boycotting products from one nation 'cause of cartoons isn't extreme?

lmmfao..

The commoners don't necessarily always agree with a nation's decision. Sometimes the government is stupid.

Don't pool us up, dude. A few nutjobs can't account for a whole.

[kohli_sahib]

Why is it ON RD ppl are always after Muslims?Get over it ppl and ILYAS made it worse by making a thread..

i read your post about bush, but look what you JUST SAID.

no one is ALWAYS getting on muslims, you people are just self-centered people who all deep down think themselves superior to the rest of the world (infidels).

[Midnight_Toker]

whoa there? that's like 70-85% false generalization among muslim guys

and by the way sweet gullible hijabi virgins??? i guess you have never heard about them hoejabis :lol:

...

i hate when my posts are among the last in the page :neutral:

[PuNjabi_RaNi*]

The majority of muslims (at least on RD) believe that the kaffirs (us) are all out to get them, constantly.

Well one reason being blair and bush being linked the west hence why some may think that way.

Throw all the fish in one basket you could say.

[hindu_heat]

Abrahamic Relgions suck.

i feel that way too, but by proclaiming it... you're really just as bad as they are by judging.

[Spiky]

dude no we dont..what are you talking about?WE ONLY THINK THAT ABOUT BUSH..


Umm....Yes. coz thats written in your Quran you non-kaffir. Obviously you havent paid much attention to it.

[kohli_sahib]

The commoners don't necessarily always agree with a nation's decision. Sometimes the government is stupid.

Don't pool us up, dude. A few nutjobs can't account for a whole.
unfortunately, when it comes to Islam, and indeed the other Abrahamic religions, you guys tend to have a higher ratio of nutjobs.

[roy_desi]

The commoners don't necessarily always agree with a nation's decision. Sometimes the government is stupid.

Don't pool us up, dude. A few nutjobs can't account for a whole.
this is a problem i've seen with many islamic nations. the "commoners" nowhere near aligned with their own respective governments.

[PreciousPari]

We can only judge them by their guns.

[malkeet]

A lot of people despise them because of the september 11th and july 7th attacks. since then muslim fundamentalism has been widely discussed and debated, which has probably brought more hatred towards them.

[.Mazzy.]

The commoners don't necessarily always agree with a nation's decision. Sometimes the government is stupid.

Don't pool us up, dude. A few nutjobs can't account for a whole.
You're forgetting-- Riots? :p

The governments, in this case, as much as I hate admitting it, were agreeing with vox populi. I'm Muslim btw.

[kohli_sahib]

i feel that way too, but by proclaiming it... you're really just as bad as they are by judging.
agreed. when did i say i didn't stoop down to their level?

[shy_sadia]

whoa there? that's like 70-85% false generalization among muslim guys

and by the way sweet gullible hijabi virgins??? i guess you have never heard about them hoejabis :lol:
less so..than men...i see a lot of sad hijabi girls...some of them dont' smile..

[hindu_heat]

unfortunately, when it comes to Islam, and indeed the other Abrahamic religions, you guys tend to have a higher ratio of nutjobs.

i've never heard of a buddhist or hindu fundamentalist.

[DtotheEVENDORF]

unfortunately, when it comes to Islam, and indeed the other Abrahamic religions, you guys tend to have a higher ratio of nutjobs.

Perhaps, but that is a different point, no?

[DtotheEVENDORF]

this is a problem i've seen with many islamic nations. the "commoners" nowhere near aligned with their own respective governments.

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[Spiky]

i've never heard of a buddhist or hindu fundamentalist.


Obviously there are. But for everyone in a Buddhist camp, there are like a million of em in Muzzies. So that comparison shouldn't even be considered.

[muslimbeauty06]

i read your post about bush, but look what you JUST SAID.

no one is ALWAYS getting on muslims, you people are just self-centered people who all deep down think themselves superior to the rest of the world (infidels).
every religion thinks they are superior than each other all of em..think there better than one another..

[roy_desi]

i've never heard of a buddhist or hindu fundamentalist.
there are a number hindu fundamentalists. RSS, some parts of the BJP are quite radical, not to mention smaller groups operating in more rural areas.

I'm sure they have a good deal of influence in certain areas of gujarat.

[Spiky]

Perhaps, but that is a different point, no?


You are one of the few sane ones. You dont represent the majority of your people. So what you say doesnt hold any substance.

[hindu_heat]

Perhaps, but that is a different point, no?

Not really, you can't have a fundamentalist without inspiration.

The Bible and the Koran are both filled with violent suggestions.

Pretty hard to flip the Geeta the same way, and Buddhism doesn't even have a centrally accepted written doctrine.

[Spiky]

every religion thinks they are superior than each other all of em..think there better than one another..


Only your abrahmic faiths think that way. eastern/karmic faiths dont have a concept of religious superiority.

[malkeet]

every religion thinks they are superior than each other all of em..think there better than one another..

wrong. sikhism doesnt. when guru nanak was asked which religion is better, hindu or muslim, he said neither is better than other..just be a GOOD MUSLIM OR A GOOD HINDU

[PuNjabi_RaNi*]

wrong. sikhism doesnt. when guru nanak was asked which religion is better, hindu or muslim, he said neither is better than other..just be a GOOD MUSLIM OF A GOOD HINDU

gotta agree with that.

[muslimbeauty06]

wrong. sikhism doesnt. when guru nanak was asked which religion is better, hindu or muslim, he said neither is better than other..just be a GOOD MUSLIM OF A GOOD HINDU

Yah but not everyone follows that dude..

[hindu_heat]

there are a number hindu fundamentalists. RSS, some parts of the BJP are quite radical, not to mention smaller groups operating in more rural areas.

I'm sure they have a good deal of influence in certain areas of gujarat.

Was their message, convert to hinduism or die?

No.

The reason for their violence was in reaction to conflict between Hindus and Muslims. They were wrong to further instigate violence, but not traditional fundamentalists.

[malkeet]

Not really, you can't have a fundamentalist without inspiration.

The Bible and the Koran are both filled with violent suggestions.

Pretty hard to flip the Geeta the same way, and Buddhism doesn't even have a centrally accepted written doctrine.

true, they often use/twist verses from there holy scriptures to support there actions. its how lots are brainwashed

[roy_desi]

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Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia

The Saudi Arabian government has strong (mostly economic) ties with the US, along with Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Somalia. The people in those countries, however, aren't any where near supportive of the US or it's doctrines.

[PuNjabi_RaNi*]

Yah but not everyone follows that dude..
[ edit]

[.Mazzy.]

Muslims overreact to certain situations. In the media, we've seen many movies, cartoons, etc. simply slaughter other religions BUT, no one touches Islam; no one touches Islam 'cause we'd be ready to start a WWIII. Let it be noted, when other religions are slaughtered[Beliefs..], Muslims are the first ones to laugh with their fuckin' mouths opened as wide as humanly possible.
:wavey:

[DtotheEVENDORF]

You're forgetting-- Riots? :p

The governments, in this case, as much as I hate admitting it, were agreeing with vox populi. I'm Muslim btw.


I, personally, don't feel the commoners solely are to blame. The government should protect, not encourage stupidity. If your kid riots and says he never wants to bathe, would you let him proceed out of consideration for his feelings?

(I also have come to feel gang violence in the cities shouldn't be solely blamed on the poverty-stricken gagsta thugs whatever you call them.)

[muslimbeauty06]

samiya..what dude?

Guru nanak is the first sikh prophet..

If i called Mohammed some dude some ppl would go nuts.
Nabina i didnt mean it like that i was calling Malkeet dude..lol sorry i wasnt. mean to Call Guru Nanak jee dude

[lil_tuntuni]

People just generalize too much. There are extremists in all groups, but that doesn't mean the whole population is like that. The media portrays Muslims as wife beaters and suicidal freaks who just want to kill everyone and ignorant people fall for that instead of picking up a Quran and reading what Islam is really about.

[Menace_2_societY]

Jealousy =)


xD

[roy_desi]

Was their message, convert to hinduism or die?

No.

The reason for their violence was in reaction to conflict between Hindus and Muslims. They were wrong to further instigate violence, but not traditional fundamentalists.
dude, they are fundamentalists, whether they force conversions or not. they cause attacks, incite hatred, burn down homes, and seperate communities. just because it is in "retaliation" doesn't make them fucking heroes.

and i'm hindu for the record.

[PuNjabi_RaNi*]

Nabina i didnt mean it like that i was calling Malkeet dude..lol sorry i wasnt. mean to Call Guru Nanak jee dude

LOL

sorry sweetheart <3

[hindu_heat]

Obviously there are. But for everyone in a Buddhist camp, there are like a million of em in Muzzies. So that comparison shouldn't even be considered.

Yea, when's the last buddhist that strapped a bomb to his chest because his green tea wasn't quite as strong as he wanted it.

[DtotheEVENDORF]

Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia

The Saudi Arabian government has strong (mostly economic) ties with the US, along with Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Somalia. The people in those countries, however, aren't any where near supportive of the US or it's doctrines.


Ever heard of bias of the media?

We believe what we see. If we are shown something in the worst way possible, driven by insurmountable prejudice, what other way can we believe?

Ever read Brave New World by Aldous Huxley or 1984 by George Orwell?

It's true everywhere. The government acts based on certain principles, the people act based on other principles.

It's a screwey world.

[muslimbeauty06]

LOL

sorry sweetheart <3
hehe its ok i shouldnt say dude like that :kiss:

[Cunard]

i've never heard of a buddhist or hindu fundamentalist.

:wtf:

[.Mazzy.]

I, personally, don't feel the commoners solely are to blame. The government should protect, not encourage stupidity. If your kid riots and says he never wants to bathe, would you let him proceed out of consideration for his feelings?

(I also have come to feel gang violence in the cities shouldn't be solely blamed on the poverty-stricken gagsta thugs whatever you call them.)
I was just saying that the people chose rioting as a response to the cartoons. The governments simply complied with such rioting[Indirectly - think;)..] by boycotting products. You have to remember these governments aren't really encouraging stupidity, they're simply doing what they feel is right - after all, they're Muslims themselves. The child scenario doesn't really apply here, suga'.

Your latter comment: "oh so" obvious.

[PuNjabi_RaNi*]

hehe its ok i shouldnt say dude like that :kiss:

yum yum :yum:

[chiquita]

because all muslims do is talk about how much they're hated / oppressed.

when the fact of the matter is, they're the most intolerant people on earth.

:werd:

[larki_jatti]

stereotyping/media influence/ignorance

[Cunard]

Yah but not everyone follows that dude..

u cant really be sikh if u dont follow "that dude" :lol:

[roy_desi]

Ever heard of bias of the media?

We believe what we see. If we are shown something in the worst way possible, driven by insurmountable prejudice, what other way can we believe?

Ever read Brave New World by Aldous Huxley or 1984 by George Orwell?

It's true everywhere. The government acts based on certain principles, the people act based on other principles.

It's a screwey world.
bias of media has little to nothing to do with it. i'm just saying that islamic governments are more inclined towards their economic well being, while many of the people are more focused on their spiritual well being.

instead of investing into local madrassah's lead by half educated "scholars", why not send your children to get actual education? where exactly will you learn to excel as a nation by educating your children on how to load, clean a kalashnikov rifle or fire a rocket propelled grenade launcher at the invading kafirs?

i'm not blaming islam as a cause of extremism, it's the lack of education that plagues islamic nations. government focus on more liberal and free education will do far better than what i outlined above.

[PuNjabi_RaNi*]

stereotyping/media influence/ignorance

what's the deal with some of the shia and sunni hate between muslims?

[muslimbeauty06]

u cant really be sikh if u dont follow "that dude" :lol:
lol i didnt call Guru jee dude i meant calling malkeet dude.sorry if i confused ppl.

[Spiky]

The whole concept of muslim ideology centers around intolerance towards other faiths. Yeah, ofcourse we have a FEW liberal "muslims" who change around with times, but they hardly represent a majority. And the same people I labelled "liberal" still throw a hissy fit when something insignificant happens such as those cartoons. GROW THE FUCK UP. World will not fucking change for your practices. UK is already a half islamic state. I'd start a fucking jihad if these extremists were to infiltrate the US with their fucked up demands.

[Cunard]

is because we are mad or we speak the truth
there are alot people in london who fear musilms for some reason

you can't judge a book by it's cover can you? :no: :Paper: :neutral:

in all honesty...if u cant figure out why the rest of the non-muslim world doesnt hold a favorable view of muslims....you really are out of the loop

[hindu_heat]

dude, they are fundamentalists, whether they force conversions or not. they cause attacks, incite hatred, burn down homes, and seperate communities. just because it is in "retaliation" doesn't make them fucking heroes.

and i'm hindu for the record.

You clearly didn't read what i wrote. I wasn't disagreening that they were wrong (infact i explicitly stated that they were).

All i was trying to get at was, the motivation differs.

The fundamentalist mindset is that of, "I'm doing this because my religion grants me the license to kill and maim."

Please go find a quote in buddhist doctrine or the geeta that supports violence upon another religion.

[kohli_sahib]

u cant really be sikh if u dont follow "that dude" :lol:
:rofl:

[jumpn jza]

Ask Cunard....

[lil_tuntuni]

every religion thinks they are superior than each other all of em..think there better than one another..All religions have the same basic goal, just different paths so I don't understand why people attack each other. Religion is there to govern humans and give them guidance through life. But you're right people will always claim their religion is better than the other religion, because that's just in human nature.

[DtotheEVENDORF]

I was just saying that the people chose rioting as a response to the cartoons. The governments simply complied with such rioting[Indirectly - think;)..] by boycotting products. You have to remember these governments aren't really encouraging stupidity, they're simply doing what they feel is right - after all, they're Muslims themselves. The child scenario doesn't really apply here, suga'.

Your latter comment: "oh so" obvious.

Anything can be simplified, so don't bash on my child scenario.

Sheesh, my comments aren't THAT blatant, are they? And to think I used to be known for my uber capricious tendencies and spontaneous remarks. Maximum entropy depleted. Dammit.

Let me simplify your argument. They are Muslim, therfore they must riot/be hardheaded and driven by indestructable spiritual inclinations. :-| Erm, I doubt the fact they claim to be Muslim and acting according to religious demands is the reason for the maddness. People can be obsessive. If it's common in an area, it spreads. It gives us a bad name :-(

[kohli_sahib]

The whole concept of muslim ideology centers around intolerance towards other faiths. Yeah, ofcourse we have a FEW liberal "muslims" who change around with times, but they hardly represent a majority. And the same people I labelled "liberal" still throw a hissy fit when something insignificant happens such as those cartoons. GROW THE FUCK UP. World will not fucking change for your practices. UK is already a half islamic state. I'd start a fucking jihad if these extremists were to infiltrate the US with their fucked up demands.
liberal muslims still have that entrenched belief that Islam is the one true faith therefore they are superior to everyone else.

and no, muslimbeauty, every religion does not think itself superior to others, Sikhism teaches that you should follow any religion as long as you follow it with a good heart.

Sikhism is NOT a religion. It is a way of life.

[Spiky]

Most of the muslims in the west are fucking hypocrites aswell. hopping between the western and their own values. They demand equality, they want their religion represented in a christian nation, they want all the ameneties which US and west can provide....But at the same time.....Their own home nation is a fucking terrorist homeground which doesnt cater to people of other faiths. You get killed if you are "apostate", you cant safely have your own place of worship if you are fucking religious nut of other branch.....Not to mention....muslims killing each other off...Yeah, blame the ignorance of general public for shias and sunnis are killing each other.

[roy_desi]

You clearly didn't read what i wrote. I wasn't disagreening that they were wrong (infact i explicitly stated that they were).

All i was trying to get at was, the motivation differs.

The fundamentalist mindset is that of, "I'm doing this because my religion grants me the license to kill and maim."

Please go find a quote in buddhist doctrine or the geeta that supports violence upon another religion.
the RSS has been known for misusing various scriptures in their rallies in order to gain favour against christians/muslims.

[larki_jatti]

liberal muslims still have that entrenched belief that Islam is the one true faith therefore they are superior to everyone else.

and no, muslimbeauty, every religion does not think itself superior to others, Sikhism teaches that you should follow any religion as long as you follow it with a good heart.

Sikhism is NOT a religion. It is a way of life.

islam is the same exact way

[kohli_sahib]

Most of the muslims in the west are fucking hypocrites aswell. hopping between the western and their own values. They demand equality, they want their religion represented in a christian nation, they want all the ameneties which US and west can provide....But at the same time.....Their own home nation is a fucking terrorist homeground which doesnt cater to people of other faiths. You get killed if you are "apostate", you cant safely have your own place of worship if you are fucking religious nut of other branch.....Not to mention....muslims killing each other off...Yeah, blame the ignorance of general public for shias and sunnis are killing each other.

:werd:

[hindu_heat]

All religions have the same basic goal, just different paths so I don't understand why people attack each other. Religion is there to govern humans and give them guidance through life. But you're right people will always claim their religion is better than the other religion, because that's just in human nature.

Exactly, so where are the plentiful sane muslims to push this message to the fundies?

And if muslims truly believed in your above statement, then why bother converting for marriage, we're all after the same goal anyhow.

[DtotheEVENDORF]

bias of media has little to nothing to do with it. i'm just saying that islamic governments are more inclined towards their economic well being, while many of the people are more focused on their spiritual well being.

instead of investing into local madrassah's lead by half educated "scholars", why not send your children to get actual education? where exactly will you learn to excel as a nation by educating your children on how to load, clean a kalashnikov rifle or fire a rocket propelled grenade launcher at the invading kafirs?

i'm not blaming islam as a cause of extremism, it's the lack of education that plagues islamic nations. government focus on more liberal and free education will do far better than what i outlined above.

I disagree. I think it's something more simple than that--- it's all about the lack of openness...a refusal to try something new... an inability to adapt to the changes.


P.S. the Media takes a huge part in this. It did fifty years ago, and it does now. Ever see what they preach on those news channels? Sometimes it makes me want to go nuts!

[PuNjabi_RaNi*]

Most of the muslims in the west are fucking hypocrites aswell. hopping between the western and their own values. They demand equality, they want their religion represented in a christian nation, they want all the ameneties which US and west can provide....But at the same time.....Their own home nation is a fucking terrorist homeground which doesnt cater to people of other faiths. You get killed if you are "apostate", you cant safely have your own place of worship if you are fucking religious nut of other branch.....Not to mention....muslims killing each other off...Yeah, blame the ignorance of general public for shias and sunnis are killing each other.
good point.

[Spiky]

All religions have the same basic goal, just different paths so I don't understand why people attack each other. Religion is there to govern humans and give them guidance through life. But you're right people will always claim their religion is better than the other religion, because that's just in human nature.


LEARN ABOUT YOUR RELIGION FIRST BEFORE TRYING TO COME OFF AS A FUCKING SPOKESPERSON REPRESENTING IT.

[kohli_sahib]

islam is the same exact way

no, it isn't. Islam tells a story of creation, gives guidelines on how to live life, and encourages conversion by the sword and intolerance to those who are Kaffirs. It is a relgion that worships prophets.

[kohli_sahib]

Exactly, so where are the plentiful sane muslims to push this message to the fundies?

And if muslims truly believed in your above statement, then why bother converting for marriage, we're all after the same goal anyhow.
:werd:

[malkeet]

liberal muslims still have that entrenched belief that Islam is the one true faith therefore they are superior to everyone else.

and no, muslimbeauty, every religion does not think itself superior to others, Sikhism teaches that you should follow any religion as long as you follow it with a good heart.

Sikhism is NOT a religion. It is a way of life.

its both a religion and a way of life my friend.

[boomchuck]

no, it isn't. Islam tells a story of creation, gives guidelines on how to live life, and encourages conversion by the sword and intolerance to those who are Kaffirs. It is a relgion that worships prophets.

Check your facts before you start spewing rubbish :no:

[roy_desi]

I disagree. I think it's something more simple than that--- it's all about the lack of openness...a refusal to try something new... an inability to adapt to the changes.


P.S. the Media takes a huge part in this. It did fifty years ago, and it does now. Ever see what they preach on those news channels? Sometimes it makes me want to go nuts!
what exactly does western media have to do with the educational situation in those countries? the islamic nations need to step up formal education and weed out the radical madrassah's if they plan on going anywhere in the 21st century.

[hindu_heat]

the RSS has been known for misusing various scriptures in their rallies in order to gain favour against christians/muslims.

Provide some proof.

[Menace_2_societY]

So easy to point the finger...... :no: this thread should be junked God knows why ppl get so hyphy over a few words lol

[kohli_sahib]

its both a religion and a way of life my friend.
no sir, i must disagree. a religion in the modern sense forces you to adhere to its ideologies and have the same biases and characteristics that the prophets of it had. Sikhism does not state anywhere that Hindus or Muslims are any different from us.

[lil_tuntuni]

Most of the muslims in the west are fucking hypocrites aswell. hopping between the western and their own values. They demand equality, they want their religion represented in a christian nation, they want all the ameneties which US and west can provide....But at the same time.....Their own home nation is a fucking terrorist homeground which doesnt cater to people of other faiths. You get killed if you are "apostate", you cant safely have your own place of worship if you are fucking religious nut of other branch.....Not to mention....muslims killing each other off...Yeah, blame the ignorance of general public for shias and sunnis are killing each other.I'm not going to disagree with you. But it's not the religion that's to blame. It's the people. People will take religion and add and subtract things to their own benefits. Unfortunately it's becoming more apparent amongst the Muslim population, but it happens in all social groups and religion sectors. The Quran and the Prophet (S) taught to respect other religions despite the differences. Taking another persons life or one's own life is one of the biggest sins according to the Quran. So, like I said earlier it's people screwing up the name of Islam, not the way of life itself.

[hindu_heat]

Most of the muslims in the west are fucking hypocrites aswell. hopping between the western and their own values. They demand equality, they want their religion represented in a christian nation, they want all the ameneties which US and west can provide....But at the same time.....Their own home nation is a fucking terrorist homeground which doesnt cater to people of other faiths. You get killed if you are "apostate", you cant safely have your own place of worship if you are fucking religious nut of other branch.....Not to mention....muslims killing each other off...Yeah, blame the ignorance of general public for shias and sunnis are killing each other.

Good fucking point.

[DtotheEVENDORF]

Exactly, so where are the plentiful sane muslims to push this message to the fundies?

And if muslims truly believed in your above statement, then why bother converting for marriage, we're all after the same goal anyhow.

What is this goal of which you speak, Mr. Heat?

[~CupCake~]

we declare jihad on any thing unjust, and criminal..

^^^ best answer :dance3:

[kohli_sahib]

Check your facts before you start spewing rubbish :no:

where's the rebuttle?

Define the word Kaffir or Infidel, do they not mean non-beleiver, and are non-believers not looked down upon, even in modern mosques TODAY?

[kashif1986]

So easy to point the finger...... :no: this thread should be junked God knows why ppl get so hyphy over a few words lol
it wont be junked anytime soon

[Spiky]

what exactly does western media have to do with the educational situation in those countries? the islamic nations need to step up formal education and weed out the radical madrassah's if they plan on going anywhere in the 21st century.


Are you fucking kidding me? Its not just the Islamic nations. Look around on RD. Look at all the UK muslim population. You think half these douchebags are even highschool graduates? Fuck.....Education is their last priority and religion is first. They get their street education through their mosques where imams brain wash them that west is out to get them....even though they fucking live and benefit from the same country.

[DtotheEVENDORF]

Most of the muslims in the west are fucking hypocrites aswell. hopping between the western and their own values. They demand equality, they want their religion represented in a christian nation, they want all the ameneties which US and west can provide....But at the same time.....Their own home nation is a fucking terrorist homeground which doesnt cater to people of other faiths. You get killed if you are "apostate", you cant safely have your own place of worship if you are fucking religious nut of other branch.....Not to mention....muslims killing each other off...Yeah, blame the ignorance of general public for shias and sunnis are killing each other.


Wow, go cry us a river. If you are going to argue, at least be rational, dude.

I think you should consider retiring. :neutral:

[larki_jatti]

no, it isn't. Islam tells a story of creation, gives guidelines on how to live life, and encourages conversion by the sword and intolerance to those who are Kaffirs. It is a relgion that worships prophets.
haha wtf? muslims dont worship prophets. is that what sikhism teaches you? sikhism is wrong.

[Lord Jigar]

When I think muslim.... I think, Holla in the name of the Real God Allah! Dont know what makes you soo thin as religious people.

[kohli_sahib]

haha wtf? muslims dont worship prophets. is that what sikhism teaches you? sikhism is wrong.

LOL. personal attacks are the only way for you guys to fight back. Do you not worship your Prophet Mohammed?

[~CupCake~]

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not a bad theard ilyas...

i shall stop picking on you :yes:

[Spiky]

haha wtf? muslims dont worship prophets. is that what sikhism teaches you? sikhism is wrong.


OH, WOW, Lets get fucking technical in how your religion is run...LMAO....I can sense your next post....Go and read up on Bible and Quran first and then talk shit...Like its going to fucking matter anyways...Dipshits.

[kohli_sahib]

Are you fucking kidding me? Its not just the Islamic nations. Look around on RD. Look at all the UK muslim population. You think half these douchebags are even highschool graduates? Fuck.....Education is their last priority and religion is first. They get their street education through their mosques where imams brain wash them that west is out to get them....even though they fucking live and benefit from the same country.
Amazing point.

[hindu_heat]

What is this goal of which you speak, Mr. Heat?

I was quoting the words of lil_tun_tuni. I agree with her assessment that all religions pursue the same "basic goals".

[zai_alam]

is because we are mad or we speak the truth
there are alot people in london who fear musilms for some reason

you can't judge a book by it's cover can you? :no: :Paper: :neutral:

The actual reason is that too many people (especially a large section of desis) have their noses up the American governments arse.

:kekeke:

[~CupCake~]

LOL. personal attacks are the only way for you guys to fight back. Do you not worship your Prophet Mohammed?

no.. lmao..

we don't worship him

we just follow his teachings

[roy_desi]

Provide some proof.
babri masjid incident? they used some scriptures to prove it was originally lord rama's birthplace, so it should be torn down.

and i believe that is a fundamentalist act.

[Spiky]

Wow, go cry us a river. If you are going to argue, at least be rational, dude.

I think you should consider retiring. :neutral:


LMAO. Terrorist.

[boomchuck]

LOL. personal attacks are the only way for you guys to fight back. Do you not worship your Prophet Mohammed?

No we do not.

[Menace_2_societY]

Wow, go cry us a river. If you are going to argue, at least be rational, dude.

I think you should consider retiring. :neutral:
rofl exactly.... obviously he has been on RD a little too long :no: taking things so serious

[*BabyGirl*]

no, it isn't. Islam tells a story of creation, gives guidelines on how to live life, and encourages conversion by the sword and intolerance to those who are Kaffirs. It is a relgion that worships prophets.

You need to read up your knowledge of Islam is anda.

[kohli_sahib]

no.. lmao..

we don't worship him

we just follow his teachings
oh, so boycotting products of an entire nation because of a cartoon that portayed him in a bad light isn't worshipping someone.

[hindu_heat]

OH, WOW, Lets get fucking technical in how your religion is run...LMAO....I can sense your next post....Go and read up on Bible and Quran first and then talk shit...Like its going to fucking matter anyways...Dipshits.

Look on the bright side, she didn't disagree with the rest of it.

[~CupCake~]

oh, so boycotting products of an entire nation because of a cartoon that portayed him in a bad light isn't worshipping someone.

how is that worshipping??? :neutral:

[boomchuck]

When I think muslim.... I think, Holla in the name of the Real God Allah! Dont know what makes you soo thin as religious people.

Learn english, then try again :hand:

[lil_tuntuni]

Exactly, so where are the plentiful sane muslims to push this message to the fundies?

And if muslims truly believed in your above statement, then why bother converting for marriage, we're all after the same goal anyhow.I never said that's what Muslims felt about it. That's just what I feel about the whole idea of religion. Islam tells people to convert after marriage so there's no conflicts or disputes between the two people. A lot of the things that are forbidden in Islam are made for the people's own benefits; such as forbidding the consumption of pork. It's a dirty animal and bad for your health. Anyway, I'm not here to debate or to get anyone to agree with me, I'm just stating my thoughts on it and what the religion actually says.

[kohli_sahib]

You need to read up your knowledge of Islam is anda.
Whether or not you worship him, that wasn't the point of the post, i reitterated it because i was told that Sikhism was wrong.

The fact of the matter is that the major difference in Religion and Way of Life is the simple lack of a story of earth's Creation.

[Sokken]

well if you stop blowing up our towers, maybe will stop hating you!

[larki_jatti]

LOL. personal attacks are the only way for you guys to fight back. Do you not worship your Prophet Mohammed?
uhh, no, we dont worship him. you have no credibility when it comes to saying anything about islam because OBVIOUSLY you know nothing about it

[boomchuck]

oh, so boycotting products of an entire nation because of a cartoon that portayed him in a bad light isn't worshipping someone.

Its called reverence and respect. Quite different from worship.

[Spiky]

You need to read up your knowledge of Islam is anda.


:rofl: Just like I fucking said....

Bitch...NO...We dont need to fucking read up on your Islam. What he said does hold coz its fucking true. If anyone, you need to go and read up on YOUR religion.

[DtotheEVENDORF]

haha wtf? muslims dont worship prophets. is that what sikhism teaches you? sikhism is wrong.

:neutral: That was uncalled for.

[kohli_sahib]

Its called reverence and respect. Quite different from worship.

UNDERSTOOD, BUT THAT WASN'T MY POINT, I SAID IT BECAUSE I WAS TOLD BY SOMEONE THAT JUST TOLD ME I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE ON ISLAM THAT SIKHISM WAS WRONG, I AM SURE SHE HAS READ THE GRANTH SAHIB FRONT TO BACK.

[~CupCake~]

:rofl: Just like I fucking said....

Bitch...NO...We dont need to fucking read up on your Islam. What he said does hold coz its fucking true. If anyone, you need to go and read up on YOUR religion.

no its not

we don't worship prophets

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[boomchuck]

well if you stop blowing up our towers, maybe will stop hating you!

Oh really? I don't know who really blew up the towers, could have been your bloody grandmother for all I care. Fact of the matter is, people don't research their arguments before blathering on mindlessly

[*BabyGirl*]

oh, so boycotting products of an entire nation because of a cartoon that portayed him in a bad light isn't worshipping someone.


edit* that was too mean..

[Sokken]

Oh really? I don't know who really blew up the towers, could have been your bloody grandmother for all I care. Fact of the matter is, people don't research their arguments before blathering on mindlessly

everyone knows it was you muslims who blew up our towers.

[Spiky]

uhh, no, we dont worship him. you have no credibility when it comes to saying anything about islam because OBVIOUSLY you know nothing about it


LMAO...So you dont worship him. Can I post the cartoon in this thread and you wont get offended? :rofl: Let me know....

[*BabyGirl*]

:rofl: Just like I fucking said....

Bitch...NO...We dont need to fucking read up on your Islam. What he said does hold coz its fucking true. If anyone, you need to go and read up on YOUR religion.


It's not MY religion.. :no:

[kohli_sahib]

uhh, no, we dont worship him. you have no credibility when it comes to saying anything about islam because OBVIOUSLY you know nothing about it

maybe you should understand the point i was originally trying to make. I said that Sikhism is a way of life, not a religion, correct? That's a personal opinon that completely depends on one's definition of religion and has no relevance to the rest of this thread.

Like most muslims around here, you hang on to one point that you might stand a chance arguing on, and run your mouth with personal attacks.

fucking pathetic.

[hindu_heat]

babri masjid incident? they used some scriptures to prove it was originally lord rama's birthplace, so it should be torn down.

and i believe that is a fundamentalist act.

I'll concede that there are hindu fundamentalists to you... but...

These people acted upon their own delusions, it's not like the geeta says, "no mosques shall be upon our land!"

India's leadership consists of three different religious backgrounds.

I doubt many temples exist in muslim countries.

[DtotheEVENDORF]

LMAO. Terrorist.

:naughty: LMAO. Retire already, bhaiyya.

Don't reply to this message, because I have installed a bomb in it.... and it'll explode if you reply.

[~CupCake~]

LMAO...So you dont worship him. Can I post the cartoon in this thread and you wont get offended? :rofl: Let me know....

fucked up brain

how is that worshipping

Worship usually refers to specific acts of religious praise, honour, or devotion, typically directed to a supernatural being such as a god or goddess.

wiki :rolleyes:

[kohli_sahib]

fucked up brain

how is that worshipping

Worship usually refers to specific acts of religious praise, honour, or devotion, typically directed to a supernatural being such as a god or goddess.

wiki :rolleyes:
TYPICALLY.

you don't praise, honour and are not devout to Mohammed?

[chiquita]

wait a min, I have heard quite a few people stating that they are "slave of Allah"




worshiping?

[DtotheEVENDORF]

I'll concede that there are hindu fundamentalists to you... but...

These people acted upon their own delusions, it's not like the geeta says, "no mosques shall be upon our land!"

India's leadership consists of three different religious backgrounds.

I doubt many temples exist in muslim countries.

If there are a certain amount of hindus in a specific country, I'm sure you'll find a temple.

Freedom of religion.

This isn't the 18th century.

[zai_alam]

everyone knows it was you muslims who blew up our towers.

Cheers. I was on the plane too, but halfway through the plan I chickend out and jumped out of the plane with my parachute.

[DtotheEVENDORF]

well if you stop blowing up our towers, maybe will stop hating you!

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

[hindu_heat]

If there are a certain amount of hindus in a specific country, I'm sure you'll find a temple.

Freedom of religion.

This isn't the 18th century.

Sweet, i'm going to Saudi Arabia to establish a temple....

Oh wait.

[kohli_sahib]

wait a min, I have heard quite a few people stating that they are "slave of Allah"

worshiping?

thank you ma'am.

anyways like i said before that isn't the point. the point is that you people have a sense of superiority because of what is WRITTEN IN THE QURAN.

its time for me to get quotes fromt he QURAN to shut you little retards up. community college obviously isn't helping.

[poojasxy]

i think its the london bombings, plane hijackings, and beheadings, and non stop preaching that freaks the people out.

[~CupCake~]

TYPICALLY.

you don't praise, honour and are not devout to Mohammed?

dude...

WE DON'T WORSHIP HIM

get that right... i am a muslim and a practicing muslim..
we only worship god... we follow mohammad's teachings

[Spiky]

Seriously, who the fuck is this DtotheEVENDORF :rofl: She has no fucking clue what goes around in the world and yet she has come to contribute some worthless comments which make no fucking sense....fucking delusional fuck.

[kohli_sahib]

dude...

WE DON'T WORSHIP HIM

get that right... i am a muslim and a practicing muslim..
we only worship got... we follow mohammad's teachings

I WAS JUST COMMENTING ON YOUR DEFINITION OF WORSHIP, DEAR.

and stop hanging on to one minute point of my argument, you win that one, but the rest of my arguments in this thread still stand unchallenged.

[DtotheEVENDORF]

everyone knows it was you muslims who blew up our towers.

Okay, Miss America. So everyone knows it. Your towers were blown, so you frolicked off into Iraq to spit your venom there. Because, that's cool right? It's only fair. They blew your towers, you had to go destroy something of theirs.

:-) Cuteee.

[Rogue]

is because we are mad or we speak the truth
there are alot people in london who fear musilms for some reason

you can't judge a book by it's cover can you? :no: :Paper: :neutral:
:kekeke: sneak up on those twats, and say "BOO!"

[Spiky]

its time for me to get quotes fromt he QURAN to shut you little retards up. community college obviously isn't helping.


Good Point!

[*BabyGirl*]

thank you ma'am.

anyways like i said before that isn't the point. the point is that you people have a sense of superiority because of what is WRITTEN IN THE QURAN.

its time for me to get quotes fromt he QURAN to shut you little retards up. community college obviously isn't helping.


I think you should stop now. It's people like you that put sikhism to shame. :no: stop jumping at the first chance you get to criticise others and their beliefs. It's simply not right...

[DtotheEVENDORF]

Sweet, i'm going to Saudi Arabia to establish a temple....

Oh wait.

Do it.

[kohli_sahib]

Okay, Miss America. So everyone knows it. Your towers were blown, so you frolicked off into Iraq to spit your venom there. Because, that's cool right? It's only fair. They blew your towers, you had to go destroy something of theirs.

:-) Cuteee.

Don't even start on Iraq, because your point that the government's representation of a nation isn't reflective of the general populations view would be completely shattered.

[~CupCake~]

I WAS JUST COMMENTING ON YOUR DEFINITION OF WORSHIP, DEAR.

and stop hanging on to one minute point of my argument, you win that one, but the rest of my arguments in this thread still stand unchallenged.

umm ok good luck

and btw what that person said about sikhism is wrong.. islam doesn't teach that

we respect every religion ...

and so i suggest let this thread R.I.P.....


(it was a bad idea ilyas)

[zai_alam]

thank you ma'am.

anyways like i said before that isn't the point. the point is that you people have a sense of superiority because of what is WRITTEN IN THE QURAN.

its time for me to get quotes fromt he QURAN to shut you little retards up. community college obviously isn't helping.

this should be good. i suppose you have a sound understanding of classical arabic?

[kohli_sahib]

Good Point!
8:65, O Prophet! rouse the Believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers.

why must we be vanquished if you respect us?

[yussi]

i havent read nay of the other posts on here so i am sorry if what i am gonna say has been said many times before me but ITS THE MEDIA'S FAULT FOR THIS WHOLE HATE 2WARDS MUSLIMS etc.. yes to some degree it is up 2 the individual to make up their own mind of some1 else no matter what BUT when the news reports thats muslims have done this and muslims have done that etcc the majority of popel who watch the new objectively will take it as what it is which is: Muslims= a problem but those who are better educated and are not sheep to the media will realise that those who the media report of are a tiny tiny minority of people whose views and actions do not reflect the views of Muslims on a generic level. Hence those who are m8s with Muslims realise FIRST HAND that not all Muslims are terrorist bombers etcccc but sadly those who are slaves to the media choose to take the news for what it is and never question it.

Thats my view anyway, i could be wrong i could be right who knows.

[kohli_sahib]

this should be good. i suppose you have a sound understanding of classical arabic?
as im sure all 1.8billion muslims that follow it blindly do.

[Spiky]

this should be good. i suppose you have a sound understanding of classical arabic?


Well....The other day your provided me with an english version of your Quranic text dint you?

Well this is the same...


4:141, And never will Allah grant to the unbelievers a way (to triumph) over the believers.


LMAO. Perfect example of discrimination against people of other faiths...AKA...."infidels". And yet you claim that Islam is a religion of peace.

Tell me....If your religion is so awesome and perfect...Why does it have a tone similar to this where it fucking discriminates people? :rofl:

[DtotheEVENDORF]

Don't even start on Iraq, because your point that the government's representation of a nation isn't reflective of the general populations view would be completely shattered.

Sigh, note the sarcasm.

I live in New York. I was greatly affected by 9/11. I'm not for the War in Iraq, but I don't blame the people for it.

:neutral:

[hindu_heat]

I never said that's what Muslims felt about it. That's just what I feel about the whole idea of religion. Islam tells people to convert after marriage so there's no conflicts or disputes between the two people. A lot of the things that are forbidden in Islam are made for the people's own benefits; such as forbidding the consumption of pork. It's a dirty animal and bad for your health. Anyway, I'm not here to debate or to get anyone to agree with me, I'm just stating my thoughts on it and what the religion actually says.

I'm assuming you're a Muslim. You overtly said, "All religions have the same basic goal, just different paths so I don't understand why people attack each other."
So either you made this up just to seem like you're not a egotistical muslim or you're hypocritical.

I'm not even going to get into the whole pork thing... but i guarantee if you do a study of muslims/christians/hindu's in the U.S.A. of average life span/health... there will be no substantial evidence to show this.

These books were written before we even knew the world was not flat!

Doesn't that seem insane that people follow it word for word?

[boomchuck]

everyone knows it was you muslims who blew up our towers.

why am I even wasting my breath

[DtotheEVENDORF]

Seriously, who the fuck is this DtotheEVENDORF :rofl: She has no fucking clue what goes around in the world and yet she has come to contribute some worthless comments which make no fucking sense....fucking delusional fuck.

*sings "Cry Me a River."*

[kohli_sahib]

Sigh, note the sarcasm.

I live in New York. I was greatly affected by 9/11. I'm not for the War in Iraq, but I don't blame the people for it.

:neutral:
all of those things are great, i was just making sure you weren't about to dig yourself into a whole that i didn't want to have to dig even more for you. Not to mention Spiky.

[Bamiyan]

Londoners dislike Muslims because of these Pakistanis:


http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/uk/05/london_blasts/investigation/img/khan_copyright_203.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/uk/05/london_blasts/investigation/img/tanweer203.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/uk/05/london_blasts/investigation/img/hussaincctv_split_pa203.jpg

[hindu_heat]

Do it.

Better yet in Iran or Pakistan... i wonder how many days it would last.

Don't be dilusional, those countries are still living in the 18th century.

[DtotheEVENDORF]

why must we be vanquished if you respect us?

Dearest. We, as mortals, do not even know who the believers and who the unbelievers are. Therefore, do not consider yourself one or the other.

[Spiky]

9:29,Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.


are you fucking telling me that the tone in this verse is one of peaceful? :rofl:

[kohli_sahib]

I'd like to see you have the guts to go up to a Muslim and say that. But your patriotism is stirring. I, in no way support what happened that day. But there still isnt concrete proof of who was actually behind those attacks. Running off to Iraq and blowing up innocent people is ok. I mean, its only a couple thousand more than 9/11 and heck they're Muslims. What does that prove?
When did anyone say the War In Iraq was right, OR a retalition to 9/11?

all you people can do is find small arguments that you have the ability to challenge and stick to it.

[zai_alam]

Well....The other day your provided me with an english version of your Quranic text dint you?

Well this is the same...


4:141, And never will Allah grant to the unbelievers a way (to triumph) over the believers.


LMAO. Perfect example of discrimination against people of other faiths...AKA...."infidels". And yet you claim that Islam is a religion of peace.

Tell me....If your religion is so awesome and perfect...Why does it have a tone similar to this where it fucking discriminates people? :rofl:

i didn't. you're getting confused.

[roy_desi]

I'll concede that there are hindu fundamentalists to you... but...

These people acted upon their own delusions, it's not like the geeta says, "no mosques shall be upon our land!"

India's leadership consists of three different religious backgrounds.

I doubt many temples exist in muslim countries.
:p :p

[boomchuck]

When did anyone say the War In Iraq was right, OR a retalition to 9/11?

all you people can do is find small arguments that you have the ability to challenge and stick to it.

Think what you wish. Do what you want.

[Spiky]

Dearest. We, as mortals, do not even know who the believers and who the unbelievers are. Therefore, do not consider yourself one or the other.


:rofl: This dumbass hasnt even read her own Quran. It clearly says that if you worship Allah you are on the safe side and if you dont you are a disbeliever. Jesus!

[kohli_sahib]

Dearest. We, as mortals, do not even know who the believers and who the unbelievers are. Therefore, do not consider yourself one or the other.
Stop trying to to prove your maturity, you are clearly not the case in point. The other 1.79 billion muslims do not think like that. If mortals could not distinguish between believers and non-beleivers, the words Kaffir and Infidel wouldn't exist.

[khanvict]

um, if you're gonna come in here and post one single line from the Quran about how it talks about killing unbelievers and such you need to apply some logical thinking to what it's actually talking about. much of that has to do with times of war and battle. stop taking one line literally.

[DtotheEVENDORF]

Better yet in Iran or Pakistan... i wonder how many days it would last.

Don't be dilusional, those countries are still living in the 18th century.

Have you tried doing it?

Those who deny another from living his faith are pretty cold.

:-(

Hopefully, they'll move on from the prejudice.

[~CupCake~]

9:29,Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.


are you fucking telling me that the tone in this verse is one of peaceful? :rofl:

seriously

i think you and kholi are going too far


getting quotes from quran and insulting them is not cool

[kohli_sahib]

Think what you wish. Do what you want.
what a great argument. too bad many other muslims don't say the same.

[LeRoiSoleil]

because they smell like bacon....

[Spiky]

i didn't. you're getting confused.

I probably did. It still doesnt matter. Its the verse taken out of English Quran acceptable to most muslims. So your objections isnt even valid.

[hindu_heat]

9:29,Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.


are you fucking telling me that the tone in this verse is one of peaceful? :rofl:

It shows these books were written when we were swinging swords at each other and we believed that if our milk turned sour it was the work of the devil.

[kohli_sahib]

um, if you're gonna come in here and post one single line from the Quran about how it talks about killing unbelievers and such you need to apply some logical thinking to what it's actually talking about. much of that has to do with times of war and battle. stop taking one line literally.
then why is EVERY OTHER line of the Quran taken literally?

selective reading of religious texts? come on now.

[~CupCake~]

what a great argument. too bad many other muslims don't say the same.

yaar aab bas bhi karo

drop it...

:neutral: :neutral:

[Sokken]

Okay, Miss America. So everyone knows it. Your towers were blown, so you frolicked off into Iraq to spit your venom there. Because, that's cool right? It's only fair. They blew your towers, you had to go destroy something of theirs.

:-) Cuteee.

at least we didn't' blow your towers up... lol if such things even exists over there...

[poojasxy]

lollercaust!!! :lol:because they smell like bacon....

[kohli_sahib]

seriously

i think you and kholi are going too far


getting quotes from quran and insulting them is not cool

when did i insult anything quote i took from the Quran?

[DtotheEVENDORF]

Stop trying to to prove your maturity, you are clearly not the case in point. The other 1.79 billion muslims do not think like that. If mortals could not distinguish between believers and non-beleivers, the words Kaffir and Infidel wouldn't exist.

This is how I talk, like it or leave it. Stop getting all angry.
The words Kaffir and Infidel exist because mortals choose to distinguish.

Did I say I agreed with them?

[kohli_sahib]

yaar aab bas bhi karo

drop it...

:neutral: :neutral:

did i make the thread?

[hindu_heat]

Have you tried doing it?

Those who deny another from living his faith are pretty cold.

:-(

Hopefully, they'll move on from the prejudice.

I don't have to fork a log of shit to know it tastes like shit.

[Sokken]

why am I even wasting my breath

osama ever heard of that name? yeah he blew up the towers and admitted it1

[DtotheEVENDORF]

at least we didn't' blow your towers up... lol if such things even exists over there...

I live a few hours from NYC.

[~CupCake~]

did i make the thread?

ok dude..

do w hatever u want :salut:

[Spiky]

seriously

i think you and kholi are going too far


getting quotes from quran and insulting them is not cool


Who is insulting? I am asking a question. It was obviously fueled by people in this thread who questioned our claims about what we thought Islam preached.

[kohli_sahib]

This is how I talk, like it or leave it. Stop getting all angry.
The words Kaffir and Infidel exist because mortals choose to distinguish.

Did I say I agreed with them?

isn't the argument about how Mortals perceive Islam? The majority of muslims on earth believe that they are the believers and the rest Kaffir.

[Sokken]

I live a few hours from NYC.
and your point is...........

[Spiky]

um, if you're gonna come in here and post one single line from the Quran about how it talks about killing unbelievers and such you need to apply some logical thinking to what it's actually talking about. much of that has to do with times of war and battle. stop taking one line literally.


Do you think.....A religious book of utmost importance to all of the muslims....should include such a tone such as slay those who are unbelievers? And you still call your religion a religion of peace?

[DtotheEVENDORF]

seriously

i think you and kholi are going too far


getting quotes from quran and insulting them is not cool


Spiky is being stupid. Kohli was alright until he quoted....He might still be fine, but the quoting was a bit...unecessary. You don't quote a part of something and label it. You take it as a whole. People always take facts to back up a claim. They neglect certain facts, and use ones that support their theory. It's human nature.

[kohli_sahib]

osama ever heard of that name? yeah he blew up the towers and admitted it1
sweetie, you're really not helping our cause here.

go back to chitown and learn a thing or two.

[~CupCake~]

Who is insulting? I am asking a question. It was obviously fueled by people in this thread who questioned our claims about what we thought Islam preached.

u won't know anything about islam here

if u really want to know.. do ur research.. but again i believe u r not interested

that's just you getting quotes from quran and assuming it a bad religion

like i said... do ur research on it first....

and yes what kholi said wasn't right

btw .. what else do u want to know about islam you are not sure of?

[Bamiyan]

And the number of radical groups that flourish in London, just look at these photos of a protest held outside Westminster Cathedral:

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/5893/dscf0034an8.jpg

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/420/dscf0002bw2.jpg

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/4272/dscf0033pu9.jpg

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/8088/dscf0035gc0.jpg

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/713/dscf0027uj5.jpg

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/5218/dscf0031zp0.jpg

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/118/dscf0032ov9.jpg

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/2953/dscf0036kg1.jpg

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/2606/dscf0026mu8.jpg

http://catholiclondoner.blogspot.com/2006/09/very-rushed-post.html

Do you ever see RD posters condemning these idiots?

[kohli_sahib]

Spiky is being stupid. Kohli was alright until he quoted....He might still be fine, but the quoting was a bit...unecessary. You don't quote a part of something and label it. You take it as a whole. People always take facts to back up a claim. They neglect certain facts, and use ones that support their theory. It's human nature.

Why is it that a religious text has such condensending tone towards the non-beleivers when it claims to be a religion that respects all others? that was the only motive for my quote.

[Spiky]

Spiky is being stupid. Kohli was alright until he quoted....He might still be fine, but the quoting was a bit...unecessary. You don't quote a part of something and label it. You take it as a whole. People always take facts to back up a claim. They neglect certain facts, and use ones that support their theory. It's human nature.


Awww......Well, you live in a fucking delusional world where you think Quran isnt the primary source of extremism aswell and that only a few muslims are weird and rest are alright.

[zai_alam]

um, if you're gonna come in here and post one single line from the Quran about how it talks about killing unbelievers and such you need to apply some logical thinking to what it's actually talking about. much of that has to do with times of war and battle. stop taking one line literally.

exactly. some people like to pick out verses and end up taking it out of context. you have to read the whole chapter to understand the full meaning of a certain verse.

[khanvict]

then why is EVERY OTHER line of the Quran taken literally?

selective reading of religious texts? come on now.

who takes everything literally? we, as intelligent human beings, are capable of deciphering which is direct/straight forward and which of the content is meant to provoke thought in how to apply it to current-day situations. & if you look at the Quran everytime there's something that seems harsh/cruel to someone of non-Islamic faith there's another verse not too far after that is filled with mercy but people focus on the 'extremes' because that's what stands out.

[~CupCake~]

Spiky is being stupid. Kohli was alright until he quoted....He might still be fine, but the quoting was a bit...unecessary. You don't quote a part of something and label it. You take it as a whole. People always take facts to back up a claim. They neglect certain facts, and use ones that support their theory. It's human nature.

exactly...

you can find enough quotes like that in the Bible.. if people would read it all... they'll know what its about ..

[kohli_sahib]

u won't know anything about islam here

if u really want to know.. do ur research.. but again i believe u r not interested

that's just you getting quotes from quran and assuming it a bad religion

like i said... do ur research on it first....

and yes what kholi said wasn't right

btw .. what else do u want to know about islam you are not sure of?

forget whether or not islam is a "bad" religion. the fact is that the followers are for the most part a bunch of idiots.

[Sokken]

And the number of radical groups that flourish in London, just look at these photos of a protest held outside Westminster Cathedral:

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/5893/dscf0034an8.jpg

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/420/dscf0002bw2.jpg

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/4272/dscf0033pu9.jpg

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/8088/dscf0035gc0.jpg

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/713/dscf0027uj5.jpg

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/5218/dscf0031zp0.jpg

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/118/dscf0032ov9.jpg

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/2953/dscf0036kg1.jpg

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/2606/dscf0026mu8.jpg

http://catholiclondoner.blogspot.com/2006/09/very-rushed-post.html

Do you ever see RD posters condemning these idiots?

they can write english?????

[*BabyGirl*]

isn't the argument about how Mortals perceive Islam? The majority of muslims on earth believe that they are the believers and the rest Kaffir.

You're getting confused. It's not Kaffir, it's Kafir which simply means non-believer. :weird: I don't see why you act like it's by any means offensive.

[DtotheEVENDORF]

isn't the argument about how Mortals perceive Islam? The majority of muslims on earth believe that they are the believers and the rest Kaffir.

...or perhaps they believe they have to become one of those believers? They don't know. If they claim to be one, they can't back it up.

Some people take it to the extreme, I agree, but do we know their true intention? Do we? When a person seeks revenge, all we see is suffering victims --enough of a reason to hate... but do we know what he thinks? Can it be justified? Can revenge be justified?

[Bamiyan]

Awww......Well, you live in a fucking delusional world where you think Quran isnt the primary source of extremism aswell and that only a few muslims are weird and rest are alright.

Spiky with all due respect, the rest are normal who are trying to go on with their merry lives.

[Spiky]

u won't know anything about islam here

if u really want to know.. do ur research.. but again i believe u r not interested

that's just you getting quotes from quran and assuming it a bad religion

like i said... do ur research on it first....

and yes what kholi said wasn't right

btw .. what else do u want to know about islam you are not sure of?


You lost all my respect when you admitted that you are willing to be a slave to any man your parents wish to get you married to...even if it meant being a 4th wife....So I'd rather ask anyone but you.

[kohli_sahib]

exactly...

you can find enough quotes like that in the Bible.. if people would read it all... they'll know what its about ..
If you read what i've said, i said ALL ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONS have this problem.

[Bamiyan]

they can write english?????

Most of them are second-gen British citizens so I'm sure they can.

[kashif1986]

they can write english?????
i thought u were stupid before but this jus proves that u really are. thanks for making it easier for me to work it out

[kohli_sahib]

You lost all my respect when you admitted that you are willing to be a slave to any man your parents wish to get you married to...even if it meant being a 4th wife....So I'd rather ask anyone but you.

lol, i had that in my sig for a couple days.

[~CupCake~]

forget whether or not islam is a "bad" religion. the fact is that the followers are for the most part a bunch of idiots.

what makes u say that??

that's just wrong dude...

we can say the same abt ur religion.. but we won't

carry on with ur unecessary hate

[Spiky]

Spiky with all due respect, the rest are normal who are trying to go on with their merry lives.


I meant the rest of people on RD. I have limited to no contact with muslims irl.