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aliG
March 27th, 2004, 01:59 PM
They the minority people, are angry because of years of Suppresion by hindu maderchods. What have you to defend this? any hindus want to answer?

CHRISTIANS IN INDIA
Hopefully they will have one actively running in comming years. :lol:

DALITS (UNTOUCHABLES)
Dalitstan Organisation

National Campaign on Dalit Home and Human Rights

DRAVIDISTAN (TAMIL NADU)
Tamilian Nation Movement

Telingana Nadu Democratic Union

GUJARAT
Gujarat Swarajya Sangh

MANIPUR
Manipur People's Liberation Front

People's Liberation Party of Kangleipak

Revolutionary Peoples' Front Manipur

MARATHASTAN
Maratha Rashtra Parishad

MUGHALSTAN
Mughalstan Nation

Pan-Islamic Mughalstan

Jihad-e-Mughalstan

Hezb-e-Mughalstan

Qutb's Mughal Front of Freedom

NAGALAND
Naga Peoples Movement for Human Rights

RAJPUTANA
Rajputana Liberation Front

SAKASTAN
Sakastan Liberation Organization

Rajputana Liberation Front of Sakastan

TRIPURA
Tripura Peoples' Democratic Front (TPDF)

KHALISTAN
Council of Khalistan

Sikh Lions

Dal Khalsa International

Khalsa Nation

ASSAM
United Liberation Front of Assam (ULFA)

KASHMIR
Kashmir Liberation Cell Government AJ & K

Gongha
March 27th, 2004, 09:04 PM
How come no one is leaving...like the hindus left Pakistan.

How come there is an AliG in every desi gathering..or board where muslims are present. How unoriginal, how dull...and worst of all how boring :lol:

aliG
March 28th, 2004, 02:28 PM
How come no one is leaving...like the hindus left Pakistan.

How come there is an AliG in every desi gathering..or board where muslims are present. How unoriginal, how dull...and worst of all how boring :lol:

as long as there is garbage, a cleaner must be present. so here I am defending my own from your filth. :lol:

paulie walnuts
March 28th, 2004, 02:32 PM
How come no one is leaving...like the hindus left Pakistan.

How come there is an AliG in every desi gathering..or board where muslims are present. How unoriginal, how dull...and worst of all how boring :lol:

as long as there is garbage, a cleaner must be present. so here I am defending my own from your filth. :lol:

hey buddy, you smell like shit. take a shower.

Hindu_Nutcase
March 28th, 2004, 07:03 PM
In India none of these "freedom movements" has a realistic hope of ever realising their goal.


Whereas foolish Pakistan have already lost half of their land to a freedom movement (1971, birth of Bangladesh).

ThreeFiddy
March 28th, 2004, 11:18 PM
Whereas foolish Pakistan have already lost half of their land to a freedom movement (1971, birth of Bangladesh).

Their land?

Right. :roll:

angrynacho
April 1st, 2004, 12:22 AM
How come no one is leaving...like the hindus left Pakistan.


Because that isn't how democracies work, at least in theory.

Hindu_Nutcase
April 1st, 2004, 06:21 AM
How come no one is leaving...like the hindus left Pakistan.


Because that isn't how democracies work, at least in theory.

I think the point he is making is that if the Hindus were really so God-damn oppressive, minorities would be out-migrating, which is the case in truly repressive countries. Basically that indicates very strongly that Hindu maderchauds are not really THAT repressive, (unlike Pakistan is to its minorities).

Another pertinent point to make is that India has had a Parsee and Jewish minority for close to 2000 years - yet they have never been persecuted nor complained about their treatment. Today - Ahmediya Muslims find it easier to live in India compared with Pakistan. Syrian Christians are another persecuted people who found refuge amongst Hindus.

It is only the aggressive people who want EXTRS PRIVILEGE rather than CO_EXISTENCE who go for separatism in India. (of course Dalits are genuinely ill-treated - but there is no Dalit separatist movement - they see succour in the Indian state. Dalitstan website is not even run by Dalits).

indian-boy
April 1st, 2004, 06:59 AM
any hindus want to answer?


I'm not a Hindu I'm Buddhist but I'll answer regarding the muslims movements. Read carefully now. HINDUS, BUDDHISTS, JAINS AND SIKHS ARE THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLES OF INDIA. MUSLIMS INVADED OUR LAND AND ARE NOW LIVING IN IT. MANY NON MUSLIMS WERE KILLED. PAKISTAN WAS CREATED FOR SOUTH ASIA'S MUSLIMS USING OUR LAND. IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THE WAY YOU ARE BEING TREATED IN INDIA, GO TO PAKISTAN, HELL WE CREATED IT FOR YOU EVEN THOUGH YOU INVADED US AND NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND. I BET AKBAR THE GREAT MUST BE REALLY HAPPY NOW HUH? BETTER YET, GET THE FUCK BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM IN THE FIRST PLACE, WHERE WAS IT? PERSIA???.




yeah invade someones land and then start complaining like bitches. Unrealistic movements and they wont ever achieve their goals. Too bad huh? :lol:


As for the christian movement- fuck that too

Sikh movements- I have no problem with them

Gujarat movemtns- No problem with them either

Tamil and Dalit movements- No problem with them either



Complain all you want, whine like a bitch but there is one fact that you cannot deny. Muslims invaded us. South asia is NOT your land. Get over it.




BTW- Hindu nutcase answered you questions very truthfully. But I guess because he's a hindu you wont even bother to consider his reply :roll: I didn't need to answer to this post but just in case Hindu Nutcase's reply is not direct enough for you to understand I also answered. If muslims dont like it, they can go to pakistan, better yet go to Persia your original homeland.



Another thing I find funny is the following. Whenever there is a terrorist attack or muslim women are being treated badly etc etc and someone makes a comment, you muslims always say something like "dont hold us responsible for what a few idiots have done". Yet right now, you are doing the exact same thing by implying that hindus on this site are responsible for how Hindus are treating minorities in india. You said "any hindus want to answer". Why should hindus on this site have to answer to how hindus are treating minorities in india??? If you want to play that game then do you have an answer for all the terrorist attacks muslims have done? do you want to answer in regards to how hindus in afghanistan are being treated? I am guessing not. But yeah, it's ok for a muslim to do the same thing right? :roll:

Hindu_Nutcase
April 1st, 2004, 07:26 AM
I agree with Indian Boy's points regarding that if Muslims of india want to complain too much they should go to Pakistan which was indeed created for them. I wouldn't however agree about the point regarding Persia - as most of the muslims are of Indian blood. Hinduism, SIkhism, Budhism and Jainism are the native religions of the subcontinent...but the Muslims of the subcontinent are mostly of native blood. But they had a separate country created for them against our will. Therefore they should not complain too much, rather should go and live there if they feel uncomfortable in India.

Of course many of subcontinental muslim leaders are hoping for another sizeable chunk of India in the future.

indian-boy
April 1st, 2004, 07:49 AM
I wouldn't however agree about the point regarding Persia - as most of the muslims are of Indian blood


yeah that's true. But there have been many studies that showed racial differences between the muslims of india and the non-muslims. It was found that non-muslims tend to have south indian blood and a lot of them also have mongoloid blood whereas muslims were found to be a lot more racially closer to middle easterners than there non muslim south asian counterparts. However, I agree with you that most muslims of india are of indian blood.

ThreeFiddy
April 1st, 2004, 12:50 PM
Question 1: if hinduism is older than budhism, how are they both indegenous? That seems a bit contradicting.

Question 2: I've read somewhere that after Budhism was born and spread throughout India, it was met with violance from the Brahmins - is there any truth to this claim?

Another thing I find funny is the following. Whenever there is a terrorist attack or muslim women are being treated badly etc etc and someone makes a comment, you muslims always say something like "dont hold us responsible for what a few idiots have done". Yet right now, you are doing the exact same thing by implying that hindus on this site are responsible for how Hindus are treating minorities in india. You said "any hindus want to answer". Why should hindus on this site have to answer to how hindus are treating minorities in india??? If you want to play that game then do you have an answer for all the terrorist attacks muslims have done? do you want to answer in regards to how hindus in afghanistan are being treated? I am guessing not. But yeah, it's ok for a muslim to do the same thing right?

Do you visit this board much? I don't think so because if you did you'd know that there's a number of people here who very much support what these minority Indians are doing (ethnic/religious cleansing). I think that's where the accusatory tones originate from. But I agree, the majority of "hindus" and "indians" (and by majority I mean like 99%) are not of people who hate and discriminate, so saying things like "any hindus want to answer?" is extremely derogatory.

indian-boy
April 1st, 2004, 03:03 PM
Question 1: if hinduism is older than budhism, how are they both indegenous? That seems a bit contradicting.

Question 2: I've read somewhere that after Budhism was born and spread throughout India, it was met with violance from the Brahmins - is there any truth to this claim?

Another thing I find funny is the following. Whenever there is a terrorist attack or muslim women are being treated badly etc etc and someone makes a comment, you muslims always say something like "dont hold us responsible for what a few idiots have done". Yet right now, you are doing the exact same thing by implying that hindus on this site are responsible for how Hindus are treating minorities in india. You said "any hindus want to answer". Why should hindus on this site have to answer to how hindus are treating minorities in india??? If you want to play that game then do you have an answer for all the terrorist attacks muslims have done? do you want to answer in regards to how hindus in afghanistan are being treated? I am guessing not. But yeah, it's ok for a muslim to do the same thing right?

Do you visit this board much? I don't think so because if you did you'd know that there's a number of people here who very much support what these minority Indians are doing (ethnic/religious cleansing). I think that's where the accusatory tones originate from. But I agree, the majority of "hindus" and "indians" (and by majority I mean like 99%) are not of people who hate and discriminate, so saying things like "any hindus want to answer?" is extremely derogatory.

answer to question 1. They are both indegenous because they are both native religions of india despite one being older than the other. Islam is not native to india. It came with the arrival of the muslim invasions.

answer to question 2. I'm not really sure but it's possible that they did.


and no I don't visit these boards much.

aliG
April 2nd, 2004, 12:11 AM
the LAND of india was never a country before 1947 when india came into being. no one took anything from anyone, a two countries were born on that year. its as simple as that. you can whine and cry all you like, but india hasnt the balls to "take back" pakistan, nepal, bhuta, srilanka, bangladesh, afghanistan, and maldives. :lol:

paulie walnuts
April 2nd, 2004, 12:50 AM
the LAND of india was never a country before 1947 when india came into being. no one took anything from anyone, a two countries were born on that year. its as simple as that. you can whine and cry all you like, but india hasnt the balls to "take back" pakistan, nepal, bhuta, srilanka, bangladesh, afghanistan, and maldives. :lol:

lol, have you EVER heard a single non-pakistani say this in your entire life?

india gained its independence in 1947, pakistan was created.

Hindu_Nutcase
April 2nd, 2004, 08:40 AM
the LAND of india was never a country before 1947 when india came into being. no one took anything from anyone, a two countries were born on that year. its as simple as that. you can whine and cry all you like, but india hasnt the balls to "take back" pakistan, nepal, bhuta, srilanka, bangladesh, afghanistan, and maldives. :lol:

Anwar Shaikh, the former Islamic militant who now has left Islam, has proved that India existed at the time of the Rig-Veda. India as a concept of a cultural unity existed thousands of years ago. India as a political unity has also existed many times (Bharata, Chandragupta, Ashoka, Akbar). Your argument is juvenile.

aliG
April 2nd, 2004, 10:20 PM
Anwar Shaikh, the former Islamic militant who now has left Islam, has proved that India existed at the time of the Rig-Veda. India as a concept of a cultural unity existed thousands of years ago. India as a political unity has also existed many times (Bharata, Chandragupta, Ashoka, Akbar). Your argument is juvenile.

india was never a country before. there were no boundries. in any historical text, wether muslim, hindu, english, chinese....it is always mentioned the LAND of india. or the subcontinent. never a country with specific boundries.

aliG
April 2nd, 2004, 10:21 PM
the LAND of india was never a country before 1947 when india came into being. no one took anything from anyone, a two countries were born on that year. its as simple as that. you can whine and cry all you like, but india hasnt the balls to "take back" pakistan, nepal, bhuta, srilanka, bangladesh, afghanistan, and maldives. :lol:

lol, have you EVER heard a single non-pakistani say this in your entire life?

india gained its independence in 1947, pakistan was created.

whatever you say bud. the fact remains...india was never a country before.

paulie walnuts
April 2nd, 2004, 10:29 PM
the LAND of india was never a country before 1947 when india came into being. no one took anything from anyone, a two countries were born on that year. its as simple as that. you can whine and cry all you like, but india hasnt the balls to "take back" pakistan, nepal, bhuta, srilanka, bangladesh, afghanistan, and maldives. :lol:

lol, have you EVER heard a single non-pakistani say this in your entire life?

india gained its independence in 1947, pakistan was created.

whatever you say bud. the fact remains...india was never a country before.

if an obscure, debatable, technicality makes you feel less overshadowed by india, then by all means glorify it.

aliG
April 2nd, 2004, 10:33 PM
if an obscure, debatable, technicality makes you feel less overshadowed by india, then by all means glorify it.

more or less, more or so. its a fact my friend, dont let it rip your torso of thoughts.