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SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 07:27 PM
The biggest Misconception regarding the term "Jatt" is defining it as a "Caste" as per the standards set by the Indian Caste System. Nothing can be far away from truth as this misconception. The fact that Jatt is a Race has been widely supported by both historians and raciologists working in this field and has been discussed in detail. Here are some negations and rebuttals to the false claim that Jatt is a so called "Caste". These rebuttals have not been and cannot be negated and the truth lies in the fact that Jatt is a Race and not a Caste as traditionally thought. Here are five rebuttals that will prove this point.

Rebuttal 1) ETHNIC NATURE: If you look at the Nature of a "Caste", you will notice that its spread throughout India. Eg Caste consists of professions divided into four Categories called Varnas. The Caste System, in its present form, is further based solely upon birth. Thus, as per Caste Rules, Farmer Profession is categorized under Vaisya Category (Varna). And Remember that as per Caste SYSTEM in its present form, this is to be based upon Birth i.e. Farmer's son MUST ONLY be Farmer if Caste System has to be maintained. This point will further be used as a rebuttal in proving how Jatt is not a Caste. Now talking about Ethnicity, you will notice that Caste is not Ethnic in nature at all. Eg a Priest living in North of India will belong to a Brahmin Caste and a Priest living in South of India will also belong to Brahmin Caste. THERE IS NO ETHNIC SIMILARITY HERE. In the same way, NOTE VERY CAREFULLY that a Farmer of North India will be a Vaish and a Farmer of South of India will also be a Vaish. This Logic leads us to conclude that IF Jatt is a Caste (assuming the proposition that Jatts are Farmers) then Jatts must also be Present uniformly throughout India, (just like Brahmins) the land where Caste System is present. But observation tells us that Jatts are only present in Punjab, Haryana and parts of Uttar Pardesh. This gives an Ethnic Nature to Jatt Identity strongly proving the case that assumption "Jatt means Farmer" is false and thereby further concluding assumption that Jatt is a Caste is False too. FIRST REBUTTAL OVER.

Rebuttal 2) RACE PRESENCE: It should be noted that this discussion is yet not concerned with Historical viewpoint and raciological and archaeological study of Jatt History. Its just about rebuttals to how Jatt is not a "Caste". What it is then, is a matter of study that will be made in further papers.
Caste is present in different Races. Eg Priestly Caste Brahmins are present in South Indian Dravidian Race as well as in North Indian Races. If its assumed that Jatt is a caste, why then are there no Jatts in, lets say, Dravidian Races? Again, the Ethnic Nature Rebuttal further strengthens this point and further helps this rebuttal in making yet another point in how Jatt is not a Caste.

Rebuttal 3) FUNDAMENTALS OF CASTES: All the fundamentals, rules and regulations of Castes are goverened by Religious Law Books such as Manusmriti written by a man called Manu. All of these books are part of Hinduism, written by Hindu Mystics. Two thirds of Jatt Community does not follow Hinduism and thereby Manusmriti, that defines and regulates the basic backbone of Caste System holds no relevance for this two thirds of Jatt Community who are not Hindus but are Jatts. Yet another strong rebuttal as how Jatt is not a Caste.

Rebuttal 4) PROFESSIONAL NATURE OF CASTES: Castes are professional in nature. Though Caste System further makes it a compulsion to make it based upon birth. But Jatts can be found in just any profession: Business, Politics, Sports and so on. Proving further Jatt is Not a Caste.

Rebuttal 5) CASTE-EXCOMMUNICATION: This is yet another important point. As a punitive measure, the Caste of a person can be degraded if some pre-defined rules are not set i.e. a person who is a Brahmin can be degraded to a Shudra Caste and so on. Thus Caste follows the rule of Ex-Communication. But a Jatt born among the Jatts can, under no condition, be ex-communicated. Good or Evil, a Jatt shall always remain a Jatt.

Together, the above five points of rebuttals thereby confirm the fact without doubt that Jatt is not a Caste.
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Ablana, Abra, Abni, Agwana, Ahlawat, Ahulana, Alpah, Alwi, Amlawat, Andar, Ansari, Antaal/Antal, Anuja, Anwal, Arab, Arar, Arwal, Arya, Asar or Asra, Athangal, Atwal, Aujla, Aulakh or Aurak, Ayasi

Babbar, Bachhal, Badah, Badanah, Badechh, Badesha, Bader, Badhan or Pakhai, Badohal, Badro, Badye, Bagrah, Bagri, Bahia, Bahniwal, Baidwan, Bains/Bhains, Bairwal, Bajwa, Bakarki, Bal, Balagan, Balham, Balho, Balwatrah, Banb, Band, Bandal, Bandechh, Bandejah, Banhor, Banipal/Behnipal/Benipal, Barian, Baryar, Basi/Bassi, Basra/Basran, Bat or Bath, Batar, Bati, Battar, Batuhe, Bawah, Bawre, Bening, Berag, Bhadah, Bhadiar, Bhagar, Bhaggu, Bhalar, Bhalerah, Bhaman, Bhamrai, Bhandal, Bhandar, Bhander, Bhango/Bhangoo/Bhangu, Bhaniwal, Bhanrar, Bhar, Bharah, Bharal, Bharanch, Bharwal, Bharwana, Bharyar, Bhati, Bhatti, Bhati Wad, Bhidal, Bhindal, Bhindar, Bhojiya, Bhola, Bholar, Bhonah, Bhotah, Bhotar, Bhullar, Bhutha, Bilan, Billing, Binning/Birring, Bochah, Bojak, Bola, Bonah, Bopahrae, Boparai, Bosan, Botar or Buttar, Boyal, Braich, Brar/ Barar, Bubak, Buch, Buhar, Bura, Burana, Burra, Buta

Chaddu, Chahal, Chaina, Chakora, Chamal, Chamer, Chanan, Chanbal, Chandar, Chandarh, Chander, Changala, Chankar, Channar, Chanon, Chanwan, Chasti, Chatha/Chattha, Chatyal, Chemiya, Chhajra, Chhaju, Chhamia, Chhana, Chhanb, Chhaner, Chhatta, Chhatar, Chhina/China, Chholiana, Chhon or Chhoni, Chimma/Chima/Cheema, Chohan/Chauhan, Chohang, Chokahi, Chokar/Chokkar, Chokhia, Choniya, Chosar, Chowah/Chowan

Dabb, Dadu, Dagar, Daha, Dahal, Dahalo, Dahamrai, Dahan, Dahang, Dahar, Dahawa, Dahba, Dahiya, Dahko, Dahloli, Daho, Dahon, Dahrala, Dahrija, Dal, Dalani, Dalo, Dammar, Dandi, Dandiwal, Danwar, Dargh, Daspal, Daul, Dehia, Deo, Deol, Deoania, Derija, Deswal/Deshwal, Dewala, Dewar, Dhadah, Dhadli/Dhandli/Dhadly, Dhadwal, Dhakku, Dhalan, Dhali, Dhalon, Dhami, Dhanda, Dhandiwal, Dhandsahar, Dhankar/ Dhankhar, Dhanoa/Dhnoa/Danoa, Dhanoe, Dhanri, Dhar, Dharni, Dhaliwal/Dhariwal, Dhasi, Dhatt, Dhaunchak, Dhed, Dher, Dhesi, Dhillon, Dhindsa, Dhinsa, Dhol, Dhori, Dhotar, Dhudhi, Dhudi, Dihadrae, Dodi, Dolat or Dulhat, Domarah, Dosanjh, Drigs, Duleh/Dulay/Dulai, Dun, Dund Rai, Dusanj

E-[No Clan Listed under this Alphabet category]

Faqartadari, Faqrakh

Gabhal, Gabir, Gadarah, Gadari, Gadwar, Gagrah, Gal, Galhar, Galwatrah, Ghandu, Gandia, Gangah, Ganj, Ganwan, Ganwanen, Ganwen, Ganwari, Garalwal, Garcha, Garewal or Grewal, Garhar, Gat, Gatab, Gawaria, Gazdar, Gazzi, Gelan, Gendas, Ghag, Ghagah, Ghagrah, Ghalo, Ghalo Kanjanarah, Ghalowaknun, Ghaman, Ghan, Ghanghas, Ghatwal, Ghumman, Gill, Gir, Girwanh, Godara, Gohra, Goj, Golia, Gondal, Gopalak, Gopa Rai/ Gopirai, Gor, Gorae, Gorah/ Gora, Goratah, Goraya/ Guraiya, Gori, Goria, Goron, Gorwah, Gosal/Gossal, Grewal, Guda, Gujjral, Guraha/Gurrah

Hajra, Hakim, Hal, Hamar, Hamara, Hamath, Hamdi, Hamshirah, Hanbi, Handal, Hanjan, Hanjra, Hans, Hansalah, Hansarah, Harar, Hari, Harl, Hasam, Hathar, Hatiar, Hayer, Heer, Heera, Heeray, Her or Porawal, Hijra or Hinjra, Holi, Hondal or Hundal, Hothi, Huda, Hural

I- [No Clan Listed under this Alphabet category]

Jabar, Jagal, Jaglan, Jagpal, Jahanbar, Jahanbo, Jai, Jajjah or Jathol, Jakhar, Jali, Jamra, Janer, Jangali, Jangla, Jani, Janil, Jarah, Jaria, Jassowal, Jastar, Jaswal, Jatana, Jatatier, Jathol, Jatowal, Jaun, Jawa, Jawanda, Jawia, Jhad, Jhaj/Jhajj, Jhakar, Jhalan, Jhalli, Jhamat, Jhandir, Jhari, Jhawar, Jhonjah, Jhor, Jhotah, Jhuti, Johal, Jojah, Joldaha, Jomar, Jondah, Jopo, Josan, Jun, Junhi, Jurai, Juta

Kachala, Kachela, Kadian, Kahl, Kahlon, Kahon, Kahut, Kajlan/ Kajla, Kalar, Kalasarah, Kaler, Kaleroth, Kalhir, Kalhora or Sarai, Kal Khand, Kallu, Kalo, Kalon, Kalru, Kamera, Kamon, Kanag, Kanaich/Knaich/Knech, Kanchi, Kanda, Kanda, Kandola, Kandwa, Kaneran, Kang, Kangrah, Kanjan, Kanon, Kanonkhor, Kanwari, Kanwen, Kanyaal/Kanyal, Kapai, Karhalah, Kat, Kataria, Kator, Katrah, Kauri, Kawari, Kawera, Kehal, Kejah, Kejar, Kele, Kerah, Kes, Khab, Khadal, Khadar, Khagah,Khaira, Khajah, Khajan, Khak, Khakh, Khaki, Khal, Khalah, Khalani, Khalwah, Khamah, Khaman, Khand, Khangura, Khanjan, Khar, Khara/ Kharra, Kharak, Kharora, Kharral, Kharwala, Kharye, Khatra, Khatrai, Khela,Khera/Khehra, Khichar, Khichi, Khilchi, Khira, Khojah, Khadal, Khokar/Khokhar, Khor, Khoreja, Khosar, Khroud, Killa, Kodan, Kohar, Kohja, Kohri, Kokarah, Kokraya, Kooner, Kuk, Kular/Kulhar, Kuliar, Kundu, Kuretanah

Labar, Ladhana, Ladhar, Lahar, Lahil, Lail/Lehel, Lak, Lakha, Lakhi, Lakhiwal, Lakwera, Lali/Lalli/Lally, Lang, Langah, Langanah, Lapeja, Lar, Lasai, Lat, Lathar, Lather, Laur, Lawar, Lekho, Lel, Leli, Liddar, Lillas, Lochab, Lodhara, Lodhran, Lodrah, Lohan, Lolah, Loleri, Lorimalanah, Lotha, Ludher, Lunghere, Lurka

Mader, Magsi, Mahad, Mahal, Mahil, Mahani, Mahir, Mahara, Maharana, Mahe, Mahesar, Mahi, Mahli or Malhi, Mahota, Mahra, Mahtarmalhi, Makol, Makoma, Mal, Malan, Malana, Malanhans, Malhah, Mallhi, Malli, Mamar, Mamarha, Mamra, Mamrai, Mann, Mand, Mang, Mangan, Mangat/Mangath, Marahar/Marrahar/Madarhar,Markanda, Markha, Marrar, Marula, Maryal, Masan, Maswan, Mat, Mattu, Matu, Megal, Megla, Mekan, Menas, Meri, Mermalha, Mesar, Metla, Miana, Mitru, Mochani, Mochhar, Mohal, Mond, Mondah, Mondi, Month, Mor/Maur, Moran, Morare, Motha, Mula, Mundi, Mundtor

Nachang, Nadho, Nagra, Nagri, Naich or Nech, Nain, Najar, Naloka, Nanad, Nadal, Nandlah, Nanwa, Narath, Narhoach, Narwal, Narwan, Nat, Natri, Natt, Nawar, Neera, Neola, Nijjar, Nordaha, Nun/Noon

Obhai, Odhana, Oesi, Ojal, Ojh, Okhal, Olak, Olakh, Omara, Otar, Otara, Othwal

Padah/Padda, Pahal/Pahil, Pahor, Pakimor, Palu, Panaich/Pnaich, Pan, Pandah, Pandeshi, Pandher, Pandi, Pandohal, Panehal, Panjotarah, Panjuttha, Pannu, Pannuhan, Panohan, Panon, Panwar, Panwaria, Parer, Parhar, Passani, Patoha, Paton, Patre, Pattar, Paungar, Pawri, Phakiwar, Phalar, Phalron, Phalyon, Phiphra, Phoghat/Phogat, Phulsawal, Pogal, Pohea, Pokhwat, Ponar, Poni/Pooni, Poniya, Pontah, Pote, Puni, Punia, Punn, Punnun, Purahwal, Puriwal

Qalhari, Qom, Qurejah

Rahal, Rahan, Rahola, Rai, Raibdar, Rain, Raju, Rajwa, Rajwana, Rak, Rakhya, Rakkar, Ramana, Ran, Randhawa, Randhay, Rando, Rangi, Ranidhar, Ranjha, Ratah, Rathi, Rathyah, Rato, Rattol/Ratol, Rawaki, Rawat, Rawani, Rayar, Redhu/Redu, Reman, Riar or Riyar, Rihan, Rokhe, Ronga,Rongar,Roth,Ruhil/Ruhal

Sabrahi, Sadhana, Sadho, Sadhra, Sagal, Sahansi, Saharan, Sahi, Sahol, Sahon, Sahota/Sihota, Sahrawat, Sahwal, Sajra, Sakhra, Salahah, Salaich/Slaich, Salotra, Sall, Samdarani, Samejah, Samor, Samra, Samrae, Samrao, San, Sanbhal, Sanda, Sandah, Sandelah, Sandhal, Sandhar/Sandher, Sandhawalia, Sandhi, Sandho, Sandhu/Sindhu/Sindhar, Sandi, Sangah/Sangha, Sange, Sangere, Sanghera, Sanghi, Sangi, Sangoke, Sangrah, Sangrota, Sangwan, Sani, Sankhalan, Sanmoranah, Sanond, Sansi, Sapra, Sarai, Saran/Sra/Sran, Sarao, Sarawat, Saraye, Sardiye, Sargana, Sarlah, Saroiah, Sarot, Sarsar, Sarwar, Sarwi, Sategrah, Sathar, Satiar, Satwahan, Saunan, Segar, Segrah, Sehi, Sekan, Sekhu or Sekhon, Sekun, Semi, Seni, Serah, Seti, Sewarah, Sewari, Shahi, Shajra, Shekhon, Shekhra, Shergill, Sheroran, Sian, Siar, Sibia/Sivia/Sibiya, Sidhu/Sidhu-Barar/Brar, Sinhmar, Soha, Sohal, Sohi, Sojani, Solgi, Solkah, Somal, Sonal, Sontra, Soro, Sotbah, Sotrak, Suda, Sumra, Sunner, Sura, Surwat, Swanch, Swaich/Sawaich

Tajar, Tajra, Tak-Seroa, Talah, Taleri, Talot, Tanwari, Taoni, Tanor,Tara, Tarar, Tareli, Tarholi, Tatla, Tatli, Tawri, Tewatia, Thahal, Thandi, Thathaal, Thiara, Thind, Thotha, Tiwana, Todi, Tokas, Tola, Toniyan, Toor, Trag, Tulla, Tung, Tur

Udhana, Udhoke, Uppal, Uthi, Uthwal, Uttamzais

Valana, Vinepal, Varaich/Baraich/Braich/Warraich, Virk/Wirk

Wabah, Wadah, Wadala, Wadhwa, Wag, Wagan, Wagar, Wagh, Wagha, Waghmal, Wagi, Wahal, Wahala, Wahandi, Wahgah, Wahlah, Wahniwal or Bahniwal, Wahroka, Wahujah, Wains, Wairar, Wairsi, Wajar, Wajba, Wajla, Wajwarah, Walar, Wallerai, Walot, Wamak, Wanda, Wandar, Wanghaya, Wanjo, Wanwar, Warah, Waran, Warbhu, Warhe, Wark, Warya, Warye, Wasir, Wasli, Watarah, Wato, Welan, Wijhi, Wulana

X- [No Clan Listed under this Alphabet category]

Yohal

Z- [No Clan Listed under this Alphabet category]

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 07:29 PM
AND DON NOT TRY TO DRAG ME IN LOL
JUST SOME FACTS I THOUGHT I POST :p
IM NOT NOT OFFENDING ANY BODY ALL RITE :d

Passionate Dance
February 22nd, 2007, 07:31 PM
...




So like... the names... are supposed to be last names?

Paki and Proud
February 22nd, 2007, 07:36 PM
jatt choudhary is a caste

Passionate Dance
February 22nd, 2007, 07:36 PM
So Am I Jatt?




I'm confused.

khanvict
February 22nd, 2007, 07:39 PM
the only kinda caste i like is outkast! (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4976415374772851750&q=so+fresh+so+clean)

nayeemx33
February 22nd, 2007, 07:40 PM
Who cares?

Arshy
February 22nd, 2007, 07:44 PM
But observation tells us that Jatts are only present in Punjab, Haryana and parts of Uttar Pardesh.


Hindu Jats also reside in Rajasthan, Gujarat and MP.
kashmiri jatts reside in kashmeer.....

(i'm one of them)

sikhndconquer
February 22nd, 2007, 07:47 PM
i am on the list..i am rakkar from majra jatta...near ropar :dance3:

CANDY23
February 22nd, 2007, 07:48 PM
hindu punjabis are not jatts
jatts are only in punjab of both pakistan and india

sikhndconquer
February 22nd, 2007, 07:49 PM
the hindu punjabis are not jatts
i just want to clarify that

jatts can be hindu punjabi's, mostly rajputs hindus in punjab..not many hindu jatt punjabi's

sWeEtnDsOuR
February 22nd, 2007, 07:50 PM
So Am I Jatt?




I'm confused.

wuts ur last name?

Passionate Dance
February 22nd, 2007, 07:51 PM
wuts ur last name?Channa.

CANDY23
February 22nd, 2007, 07:51 PM
jatts can be hindu punjabi's, mostly rajputs hindus in punjab..not many hindu jatt punjabi's

no thats not true
maybe they converted or sumthing but the real ones are from punjab

jattniz_chuttni
February 22nd, 2007, 07:51 PM
Nobody fucking cares. Being punjabi now is nothing but belonging to a group of bunch of raging alcoholics that provoke fights at every fucking function they go to.

Gosh... *fuck

sikhndconquer
February 22nd, 2007, 07:52 PM
Channa.


nope ur not a jatt

sikhndconquer
February 22nd, 2007, 07:52 PM
no thats not true
maybe they converted or sumthing but the real ones are from punjab

converted ? lol

Passionate Dance
February 22nd, 2007, 07:52 PM
Nobody fucking cares. Being punjabi now is nothing but belonging to a group of bunch of raging alcoholics that provoke fights at every fucking function they go to.

Gosh... *fuck:rofl:


Does that still go on? It happened when I was lil.

Passionate Dance
February 22nd, 2007, 07:53 PM
nope ur not a jatt...



Okie. What am I then?

sikhndconquer
February 22nd, 2007, 07:53 PM
Nobody fucking cares. Being punjabi now is nothing but belonging to a group of bunch of raging alcoholics that provoke fights at every fucking function they go to.

Gosh... *fuck

u addvertise ur self more then any one by sticking jattnizz or on ur nic

.:[TIGA]:.
February 22nd, 2007, 07:53 PM
its a tribe not a caste yes.
jatts were tribes men. they fought for centuries with other settlers for land and power. ( maybe thats why the pride and anger ) before they settled down in western india / pakistan.!

rajputs are jatts aswell. but were converted to hindusm and named a warrior race. rajj ke poot. sons of the land.

sikhndconquer
February 22nd, 2007, 07:54 PM
...



Okie. What am I then?


channa are mostly phappa's aka khatri...

Irreligious Left
February 22nd, 2007, 07:54 PM
lol @ raciologists

Passionate Dance
February 22nd, 2007, 07:56 PM
channa are mostly phappa's aka khatri...Eh?



I know what I am but I dont really give a fuck. Just wondering how you can tell who's who just by last names...

jattniz_chuttni
February 22nd, 2007, 07:57 PM
:rofl:


Does that still go on? It happened when I was lil.
Yes. It does. The new generation of American Punjabis have been the carrying on that tradition with flying colors.

P.S. Who cares if you're a Jatt or not.

sikhndconquer
February 22nd, 2007, 07:58 PM
Most Hindu Jats aren't from Punjab. They mostly live in UP, Haryana and Rajasthan, while a growing number have settled in Gujarat and MP. Read it up on wikipedia.

You don't know what you're talking about, so I don't think you can comprehend this concept anyway.



Most Rajput Hindus aren't from Punjab either. A lot of people aren't even aware that there are Rajputs living in Punjab. Khatris, Aroras, Banias and Brahmins in Punjab have a much stronger and domineering presence as Hindu Punjabis.


by that i mean not many hindu jatts in punjab..but more rajputs hindus in punjab

jattniz_chuttni
February 22nd, 2007, 07:58 PM
u addvertise ur self more then any one by sticking jattnizz or on ur nic
Actually, it's only there on my nic because I thought it was a catchy name. Therefore I used it. Otherwise I could careless about being a Jatt or not.

sikhndconquer
February 22nd, 2007, 07:59 PM
Actually, it's only there on my nic because I thought it was a catchy name. Therefore I used it. Otherwise I could careless about being a Jatt or not.


u do care u have it..its catchy

.:[TIGA]:.
February 22nd, 2007, 08:00 PM
Can I ask one thing to anyone that actually is willing to answer: What difference does it make? Will it affect you way of living or the people around you in any way? Some people seem to attach such importance to belonging to a caste/tribe/religion/social status when in all reality it means pretty much nothing since the person who was born into the group has no control of belonging there. If you feel the need to ride on a status given to your ancestors it shows how limited your scope for self development is.

Yeah begin the hate. I care not. I just thought I'd drop a decent post and get back to my work.

SaT
yes it does not matter. but its good to know where your coming from. where your roots are. and its not about belonging to a certain group but its about what you are. whats the history behind you and your ancestors.

and all this without discriminating any other race/case. than whats wrong with it? does it makes you a bad person or effects others? no i dont think so.

KhanNoonienSingh
February 22nd, 2007, 08:00 PM
Nobody fucking cares. Being punjabi now is nothing but belonging to a group of bunch of raging alcoholics that provoke fights at every fucking function they go to.

Gosh... *fuck
you don't need the alcohol for that.

MUSLIM PUNJABIZ HOLLA.

Passionate Dance
February 22nd, 2007, 08:05 PM
Yes. It does. The new generation of American Punjabis have been the carrying on that tradition with flying colors.

P.S. Who cares if you're a Jatt or not.
:no: I always thought it was the pindu people who did that...


I dont. I just wonder how people can tell whos Jatt or not by last names... It has always intrigued me.

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 08:07 PM
yep yep, thas how you can tell if a person is jatt or not

...




So like... the names... are supposed to be last names?

Passionate Dance
February 22nd, 2007, 08:08 PM
yep yep, thas how you can tell if a person is jatt or notBut... isnt a Jatt a farmer?

AnGel_PyAr
February 22nd, 2007, 08:09 PM
good read

dandiwal_jatt
February 22nd, 2007, 08:12 PM
But... isnt a Jatt a farmer?
no.

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 08:12 PM
beacuse jatts lived in tribes and there last name repersents there tribe, im not saying that about other castes etc
but you can tell if a person is jatt by there last name

:no: I always thought it was the pindu people who did that...


I dont. I just wonder how people can tell whos Jatt or not by last names... It has always intrigued me.

m0narch
February 22nd, 2007, 08:13 PM
you don't need the alcohol for that.

MUSLIM PUNJABIZ HOLLA.

lol

m0narch
February 22nd, 2007, 08:13 PM
But... isnt a Jatt a farmer?

lol

jattniz_chuttni
February 22nd, 2007, 08:14 PM
u do care u have it..its catchy If that's a compliment?... thank you.

But um... who are you to tell me I care? Whether I have it or not isn't the issue, if I take me being a Jatti and the stereotypes that come with it to make up completely who I am, then that's an issue.

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 08:15 PM
i agree, like im not a racist to any body, im just proud of where i came from etc and im proud of my ancesters of what they did and really yea its true i dont really want my race to get mixed, the girls many of them dont care but its moslty the guys that like really rep it etc

:.']yes it does not matter. but its good to know where your coming from. where your roots are. and its not about belonging to a certain group but its about what you are. whats the history behind you and your ancestors.

and all this without discriminating any other race/case. than whats wrong with it? does it makes you a bad person or effects others? no i dont think so.

CANDY23
February 22nd, 2007, 08:15 PM
It's the other way around honey. UP Hindu Jats and Rajasthani Hindu Jats know that they don't have any Punjabi or Sikh ancestry.

whatever!
thats not true at all

CANDY23
February 22nd, 2007, 08:15 PM
Can I ask one thing to anyone that actually is willing to answer: What difference does it make? Will it affect you way of living or the people around you in any way? Some people seem to attach such importance to belonging to a caste/tribe/religion/social status when in all reality it means pretty much nothing since the person who was born into the group has no control of belonging there. If you feel the need to ride on a status given to your ancestors it shows how limited your scope for self development is.

Yeah begin the hate. I care not. I just thought I'd drop a decent post and get back to my work.

SaT


this matters soo much

sikhndconquer
February 22nd, 2007, 08:15 PM
But... isnt a Jatt a farmer?

lol..yeh jatts are mostly farmers because they own lands in punjab..they chosse the profession they do because of conquering land's....in areas of punjab...my Pind name is Majra jatta da..jatts have been in that pind since before time off muslim kings.. but there is a vast history about jatts...jatts in other parts of india/pakistan..do other trades..jatt=doesnt mean farmer lol its something they do in punjab since the land is fertile...and in punjab most jatts are known as jemmindar=land owner..

dandiwal_jatt
February 22nd, 2007, 08:16 PM
whatever!
thats not true at all
:neutral:

CANDY23
February 22nd, 2007, 08:16 PM
The biggest Misconception regarding the term "Jatt" is defining it as a "Caste" as per the standards set by the Indian Caste System. Nothing can be far away from truth as this misconception. The fact that Jatt is a Race has been widely supported by both historians and raciologists working in this field and has been discussed in detail. Here are some negations and rebuttals to the false claim that Jatt is a so called "Caste". These rebuttals have not been and cannot be negated and the truth lies in the fact that Jatt is a Race and not a Caste as traditionally thought. Here are five rebuttals that will prove this point.

Rebuttal 1) ETHNIC NATURE: If you look at the Nature of a "Caste", you will notice that its spread throughout India. Eg Caste consists of professions divided into four Categories called Varnas. The Caste System, in its present form, is further based solely upon birth. Thus, as per Caste Rules, Farmer Profession is categorized under Vaisya Category (Varna). And Remember that as per Caste SYSTEM in its present form, this is to be based upon Birth i.e. Farmer's son MUST ONLY be Farmer if Caste System has to be maintained. This point will further be used as a rebuttal in proving how Jatt is not a Caste. Now talking about Ethnicity, you will notice that Caste is not Ethnic in nature at all. Eg a Priest living in North of India will belong to a Brahmin Caste and a Priest living in South of India will also belong to Brahmin Caste. THERE IS NO ETHNIC SIMILARITY HERE. In the same way, NOTE VERY CAREFULLY that a Farmer of North India will be a Vaish and a Farmer of South of India will also be a Vaish. This Logic leads us to conclude that IF Jatt is a Caste (assuming the proposition that Jatts are Farmers) then Jatts must also be Present uniformly throughout India, (just like Brahmins) the land where Caste System is present. But observation tells us that Jatts are only present in Punjab, Haryana and parts of Uttar Pardesh. This gives an Ethnic Nature to Jatt Identity strongly proving the case that assumption "Jatt means Farmer" is false and thereby further concluding assumption that Jatt is a Caste is False too. FIRST REBUTTAL OVER.

Rebuttal 2) RACE PRESENCE: It should be noted that this discussion is yet not concerned with Historical viewpoint and raciological and archaeological study of Jatt History. Its just about rebuttals to how Jatt is not a "Caste". What it is then, is a matter of study that will be made in further papers.
Caste is present in different Races. Eg Priestly Caste Brahmins are present in South Indian Dravidian Race as well as in North Indian Races. If its assumed that Jatt is a caste, why then are there no Jatts in, lets say, Dravidian Races? Again, the Ethnic Nature Rebuttal further strengthens this point and further helps this rebuttal in making yet another point in how Jatt is not a Caste.

Rebuttal 3) FUNDAMENTALS OF CASTES: All the fundamentals, rules and regulations of Castes are goverened by Religious Law Books such as Manusmriti written by a man called Manu. All of these books are part of Hinduism, written by Hindu Mystics. Two thirds of Jatt Community does not follow Hinduism and thereby Manusmriti, that defines and regulates the basic backbone of Caste System holds no relevance for this two thirds of Jatt Community who are not Hindus but are Jatts. Yet another strong rebuttal as how Jatt is not a Caste.

Rebuttal 4) PROFESSIONAL NATURE OF CASTES: Castes are professional in nature. Though Caste System further makes it a compulsion to make it based upon birth. But Jatts can be found in just any profession: Business, Politics, Sports and so on. Proving further Jatt is Not a Caste.

Rebuttal 5) CASTE-EXCOMMUNICATION: This is yet another important point. As a punitive measure, the Caste of a person can be degraded if some pre-defined rules are not set i.e. a person who is a Brahmin can be degraded to a Shudra Caste and so on. Thus Caste follows the rule of Ex-Communication. But a Jatt born among the Jatts can, under no condition, be ex-communicated. Good or Evil, a Jatt shall always remain a Jatt.

Together, the above five points of rebuttals thereby confirm the fact without doubt that Jatt is not a Caste.
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JATTAN DE GHOTH... (IN ALPHABET ORDER)

Ablana, Abra, Abni, Agwana, Ahlawat, Ahulana, Alpah, Alwi, Amlawat, Andar, Ansari, Antaal/Antal, Anuja, Anwal, Arab, Arar, Arwal, Arya, Asar or Asra, Athangal, Atwal, Aujla, Aulakh or Aurak, Ayasi

Babbar, Bachhal, Badah, Badanah, Badechh, Badesha, Bader, Badhan or Pakhai, Badohal, Badro, Badye, Bagrah, Bagri, Bahia, Bahniwal, Baidwan, Bains/Bhains, Bairwal, Bajwa, Bakarki, Bal, Balagan, Balham, Balho, Balwatrah, Banb, Band, Bandal, Bandechh, Bandejah, Banhor, Banipal/Behnipal/Benipal, Barian, Baryar, Basi/Bassi, Basra/Basran, Bat or Bath, Batar, Bati, Battar, Batuhe, Bawah, Bawre, Bening, Berag, Bhadah, Bhadiar, Bhagar, Bhaggu, Bhalar, Bhalerah, Bhaman, Bhamrai, Bhandal, Bhandar, Bhander, Bhango/Bhangoo/Bhangu, Bhaniwal, Bhanrar, Bhar, Bharah, Bharal, Bharanch, Bharwal, Bharwana, Bharyar, Bhati, Bhatti, Bhati Wad, Bhidal, Bhindal, Bhindar, Bhojiya, Bhola, Bholar, Bhonah, Bhotah, Bhotar, Bhullar, Bhutha, Bilan, Billing, Binning/Birring, Bochah, Bojak, Bola, Bonah, Bopahrae, Boparai, Bosan, Botar or Buttar, Boyal, Braich, Brar/ Barar, Bubak, Buch, Buhar, Bura, Burana, Burra, Buta

Chaddu, Chahal, Chaina, Chakora, Chamal, Chamer, Chanan, Chanbal, Chandar, Chandarh, Chander, Changala, Chankar, Channar, Chanon, Chanwan, Chasti, Chatha/Chattha, Chatyal, Chemiya, Chhajra, Chhaju, Chhamia, Chhana, Chhanb, Chhaner, Chhatta, Chhatar, Chhina/China, Chholiana, Chhon or Chhoni, Chimma/Chima/Cheema, Chohan/Chauhan, Chohang, Chokahi, Chokar/Chokkar, Chokhia, Choniya, Chosar, Chowah/Chowan

Dabb, Dadu, Dagar, Daha, Dahal, Dahalo, Dahamrai, Dahan, Dahang, Dahar, Dahawa, Dahba, Dahiya, Dahko, Dahloli, Daho, Dahon, Dahrala, Dahrija, Dal, Dalani, Dalo, Dammar, Dandi, Dandiwal, Danwar, Dargh, Daspal, Daul, Dehia, Deo, Deol, Deoania, Derija, Deswal/Deshwal, Dewala, Dewar, Dhadah, Dhadli/Dhandli/Dhadly, Dhadwal, Dhakku, Dhalan, Dhali, Dhalon, Dhami, Dhanda, Dhandiwal, Dhandsahar, Dhankar/ Dhankhar, Dhanoa/Dhnoa/Danoa, Dhanoe, Dhanri, Dhar, Dharni, Dhaliwal/Dhariwal, Dhasi, Dhatt, Dhaunchak, Dhed, Dher, Dhesi, Dhillon, Dhindsa, Dhinsa, Dhol, Dhori, Dhotar, Dhudhi, Dhudi, Dihadrae, Dodi, Dolat or Dulhat, Domarah, Dosanjh, Drigs, Duleh/Dulay/Dulai, Dun, Dund Rai, Dusanj

E-[No Clan Listed under this Alphabet category]

Faqartadari, Faqrakh

Gabhal, Gabir, Gadarah, Gadari, Gadwar, Gagrah, Gal, Galhar, Galwatrah, Ghandu, Gandia, Gangah, Ganj, Ganwan, Ganwanen, Ganwen, Ganwari, Garalwal, Garcha, Garewal or Grewal, Garhar, Gat, Gatab, Gawaria, Gazdar, Gazzi, Gelan, Gendas, Ghag, Ghagah, Ghagrah, Ghalo, Ghalo Kanjanarah, Ghalowaknun, Ghaman, Ghan, Ghanghas, Ghatwal, Ghumman, Gill, Gir, Girwanh, Godara, Gohra, Goj, Golia, Gondal, Gopalak, Gopa Rai/ Gopirai, Gor, Gorae, Gorah/ Gora, Goratah, Goraya/ Guraiya, Gori, Goria, Goron, Gorwah, Gosal/Gossal, Grewal, Guda, Gujjral, Guraha/Gurrah

Hajra, Hakim, Hal, Hamar, Hamara, Hamath, Hamdi, Hamshirah, Hanbi, Handal, Hanjan, Hanjra, Hans, Hansalah, Hansarah, Harar, Hari, Harl, Hasam, Hathar, Hatiar, Hayer, Heer, Heera, Heeray, Her or Porawal, Hijra or Hinjra, Holi, Hondal or Hundal, Hothi, Huda, Hural

I- [No Clan Listed under this Alphabet category]

Jabar, Jagal, Jaglan, Jagpal, Jahanbar, Jahanbo, Jai, Jajjah or Jathol, Jakhar, Jali, Jamra, Janer, Jangali, Jangla, Jani, Janil, Jarah, Jaria, Jassowal, Jastar, Jaswal, Jatana, Jatatier, Jathol, Jatowal, Jaun, Jawa, Jawanda, Jawia, Jhad, Jhaj/Jhajj, Jhakar, Jhalan, Jhalli, Jhamat, Jhandir, Jhari, Jhawar, Jhonjah, Jhor, Jhotah, Jhuti, Johal, Jojah, Joldaha, Jomar, Jondah, Jopo, Josan, Jun, Junhi, Jurai, Juta

Kachala, Kachela, Kadian, Kahl, Kahlon, Kahon, Kahut, Kajlan/ Kajla, Kalar, Kalasarah, Kaler, Kaleroth, Kalhir, Kalhora or Sarai, Kal Khand, Kallu, Kalo, Kalon, Kalru, Kamera, Kamon, Kanag, Kanaich/Knaich/Knech, Kanchi, Kanda, Kanda, Kandola, Kandwa, Kaneran, Kang, Kangrah, Kanjan, Kanon, Kanonkhor, Kanwari, Kanwen, Kanyaal/Kanyal, Kapai, Karhalah, Kat, Kataria, Kator, Katrah, Kauri, Kawari, Kawera, Kehal, Kejah, Kejar, Kele, Kerah, Kes, Khab, Khadal, Khadar, Khagah,Khaira, Khajah, Khajan, Khak, Khakh, Khaki, Khal, Khalah, Khalani, Khalwah, Khamah, Khaman, Khand, Khangura, Khanjan, Khar, Khara/ Kharra, Kharak, Kharora, Kharral, Kharwala, Kharye, Khatra, Khatrai, Khela,Khera/Khehra, Khichar, Khichi, Khilchi, Khira, Khojah, Khadal, Khokar/Khokhar, Khor, Khoreja, Khosar, Khroud, Killa, Kodan, Kohar, Kohja, Kohri, Kokarah, Kokraya, Kooner, Kuk, Kular/Kulhar, Kuliar, Kundu, Kuretanah

Labar, Ladhana, Ladhar, Lahar, Lahil, Lail/Lehel, Lak, Lakha, Lakhi, Lakhiwal, Lakwera, Lali/Lalli/Lally, Lang, Langah, Langanah, Lapeja, Lar, Lasai, Lat, Lathar, Lather, Laur, Lawar, Lekho, Lel, Leli, Liddar, Lillas, Lochab, Lodhara, Lodhran, Lodrah, Lohan, Lolah, Loleri, Lorimalanah, Lotha, Ludher, Lunghere, Lurka

Mader, Magsi, Mahad, Mahal, Mahil, Mahani, Mahir, Mahara, Maharana, Mahe, Mahesar, Mahi, Mahli or Malhi, Mahota, Mahra, Mahtarmalhi, Makol, Makoma, Mal, Malan, Malana, Malanhans, Malhah, Mallhi, Malli, Mamar, Mamarha, Mamra, Mamrai, Mann, Mand, Mang, Mangan, Mangat/Mangath, Marahar/Marrahar/Madarhar,Markanda, Markha, Marrar, Marula, Maryal, Masan, Maswan, Mat, Mattu, Matu, Megal, Megla, Mekan, Menas, Meri, Mermalha, Mesar, Metla, Miana, Mitru, Mochani, Mochhar, Mohal, Mond, Mondah, Mondi, Month, Mor/Maur, Moran, Morare, Motha, Mula, Mundi, Mundtor

Nachang, Nadho, Nagra, Nagri, Naich or Nech, Nain, Najar, Naloka, Nanad, Nadal, Nandlah, Nanwa, Narath, Narhoach, Narwal, Narwan, Nat, Natri, Natt, Nawar, Neera, Neola, Nijjar, Nordaha, Nun/Noon

Obhai, Odhana, Oesi, Ojal, Ojh, Okhal, Olak, Olakh, Omara, Otar, Otara, Othwal

Padah/Padda, Pahal/Pahil, Pahor, Pakimor, Palu, Panaich/Pnaich, Pan, Pandah, Pandeshi, Pandher, Pandi, Pandohal, Panehal, Panjotarah, Panjuttha, Pannu, Pannuhan, Panohan, Panon, Panwar, Panwaria, Parer, Parhar, Passani, Patoha, Paton, Patre, Pattar, Paungar, Pawri, Phakiwar, Phalar, Phalron, Phalyon, Phiphra, Phoghat/Phogat, Phulsawal, Pogal, Pohea, Pokhwat, Ponar, Poni/Pooni, Poniya, Pontah, Pote, Puni, Punia, Punn, Punnun, Purahwal, Puriwal

Qalhari, Qom, Qurejah

Rahal, Rahan, Rahola, Rai, Raibdar, Rain, Raju, Rajwa, Rajwana, Rak, Rakhya, Rakkar, Ramana, Ran, Randhawa, Randhay, Rando, Rangi, Ranidhar, Ranjha, Ratah, Rathi, Rathyah, Rato, Rattol/Ratol, Rawaki, Rawat, Rawani, Rayar, Redhu/Redu, Reman, Riar or Riyar, Rihan, Rokhe, Ronga,Rongar,Roth,Ruhil/Ruhal

Sabrahi, Sadhana, Sadho, Sadhra, Sagal, Sahansi, Saharan, Sahi, Sahol, Sahon, Sahota/Sihota, Sahrawat, Sahwal, Sajra, Sakhra, Salahah, Salaich/Slaich, Salotra, Sall, Samdarani, Samejah, Samor, Samra, Samrae, Samrao, San, Sanbhal, Sanda, Sandah, Sandelah, Sandhal, Sandhar/Sandher, Sandhawalia, Sandhi, Sandho, Sandhu/Sindhu/Sindhar, Sandi, Sangah/Sangha, Sange, Sangere, Sanghera, Sanghi, Sangi, Sangoke, Sangrah, Sangrota, Sangwan, Sani, Sankhalan, Sanmoranah, Sanond, Sansi, Sapra, Sarai, Saran/Sra/Sran, Sarao, Sarawat, Saraye, Sardiye, Sargana, Sarlah, Saroiah, Sarot, Sarsar, Sarwar, Sarwi, Sategrah, Sathar, Satiar, Satwahan, Saunan, Segar, Segrah, Sehi, Sekan, Sekhu or Sekhon, Sekun, Semi, Seni, Serah, Seti, Sewarah, Sewari, Shahi, Shajra, Shekhon, Shekhra, Shergill, Sheroran, Sian, Siar, Sibia/Sivia/Sibiya, Sidhu/Sidhu-Barar/Brar, Sinhmar, Soha, Sohal, Sohi, Sojani, Solgi, Solkah, Somal, Sonal, Sontra, Soro, Sotbah, Sotrak, Suda, Sumra, Sunner, Sura, Surwat, Swanch, Swaich/Sawaich

Tajar, Tajra, Tak-Seroa, Talah, Taleri, Talot, Tanwari, Taoni, Tanor,Tara, Tarar, Tareli, Tarholi, Tatla, Tatli, Tawri, Tewatia, Thahal, Thandi, Thathaal, Thiara, Thind, Thotha, Tiwana, Todi, Tokas, Tola, Toniyan, Toor, Trag, Tulla, Tung, Tur

Udhana, Udhoke, Uppal, Uthi, Uthwal, Uttamzais

Valana, Vinepal, Varaich/Baraich/Braich/Warraich, Virk/Wirk

Wabah, Wadah, Wadala, Wadhwa, Wag, Wagan, Wagar, Wagh, Wagha, Waghmal, Wagi, Wahal, Wahala, Wahandi, Wahgah, Wahlah, Wahniwal or Bahniwal, Wahroka, Wahujah, Wains, Wairar, Wairsi, Wajar, Wajba, Wajla, Wajwarah, Walar, Wallerai, Walot, Wamak, Wanda, Wandar, Wanghaya, Wanjo, Wanwar, Warah, Waran, Warbhu, Warhe, Wark, Warya, Warye, Wasir, Wasli, Watarah, Wato, Welan, Wijhi, Wulana

X- [No Clan Listed under this Alphabet category]

Yohal

Z- [No Clan Listed under this Alphabet category]

some of these names i have never heard of

m0narch
February 22nd, 2007, 08:16 PM
If that's a compliment?... thank you.

But um... who are you to tell me I care? Whether I have it or not isn't the issue, if I take me being a Jatti and the stereotypes that come with it to make up completely who I am, then that's an issue.

that username is just irratating. as too is she.

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 08:17 PM
listen, no body is being a racist, im jatt but im not streotype, just proud of who i am.......if you think being jatt comes with streoptypes, then your wrong, its not about that. its about being proud of who you are
and you sure your a jatti cuz dyammmmmm i met jattis that i understand they dont care but there still proud etc your just compltly umm different. i cant say your fake but that what all the jatts would assume or your jsut braing washed or somthing.......no offence but i guees that how you was raised

If that's a compliment?... thank you.

But um... who are you to tell me I care? Whether I have it or not isn't the issue, if I take me being a Jatti and the stereotypes that come with it to make up completely who I am, then that's an issue.

CANDY23
February 22nd, 2007, 08:18 PM
lol..yeh jatts are mostly farmers because they own lands in punjab..they chosse the profession they do because of conquering land's....in areas of punjab...my Pind name is Majra jatta da..jatts have been in that pind since before time off muslim kings.. but there is a vast history about jatts...jatts in other parts of india/pakistan..do other trades..jatt=doesnt mean farmer lol its something they do in punjab since the land is fertile...and in punjab most jatts are known as jemmindar=land owner..
u shouldnt even bother
these ppl will never get it

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 08:18 PM
some of these names i have never heard of

i know there very rare
im bajwa :P im sure you heard of mine, its pretty populer

CANDY23
February 22nd, 2007, 08:18 PM
listen, no body is being a racist, im jatt but im not streotype, just proud of who i am.......if you think being jatt comes with streoptypes, then your wrong, its not about that. its about being proud of who you are
and you sure your a jatti cuz dyammmmmm i met jattis that i understand they dont care but there still proud etc your just compltly umm different. i cant say your fake but that what all the jatts would assume or your jsut braing washed or somthing.......no offence but i guees that how you was raised

WERD!!!

sikhndconquer
February 22nd, 2007, 08:19 PM
u shouldnt even bother
these ppl will never get it


i should, someone is reading..

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 08:20 PM
i should, someone is reading..
lol kiddan mundayaaaa

sikhndconquer
February 22nd, 2007, 08:20 PM
lol kiddan mundayaaaa


theek tu suna verra..

Ketamine-Abuse
February 22nd, 2007, 08:22 PM
iSN'T JATT THE ALCOHOLIC, WIFE BEATING CASTE??1?1?

ssjasper2003
February 22nd, 2007, 08:22 PM
My last name is Mudi, close to mundi.

So am I close?

jattniz_chuttni
February 22nd, 2007, 08:22 PM
listen, no body is being a racist, im jatt but im not streotype, just proud of who i am.......if you think being jatt comes with streoptypes, then your wrong, its not about that. its about being proud of who you are
and you sure your a jatti cuz dyammmmmm i met jattis that i understand they dont care but there still proud etc your just compltly umm different. i cant say your fake but that what all the jatts would assume or your jsut braing washed or somthing.......no offence but i guees that how you was raised
I actually don't care about being a Jatt. Even though my nic might come off as me caring, I really don't. But I wasn't raised thinking I was a jatt or whatever. Not once. So yeah.

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 08:22 PM
theek tu suna verra..
badiya chillion at home
wating for my boy to get of colloge, go chillion
may be manhatten for some gyros yummyyyyyyyy :P

sikhndconquer
February 22nd, 2007, 08:23 PM
iSN'T JATT THE ALCOHOLIC, WIFE BEATING CASTE??1?1?


after long day of farming yeh lol

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 08:23 PM
I actually don't care about being a Jatt. Even though my nic might come off as me caring, I really don't. But I wasn't raised thinking I was a jatt or whatever. Not once. So yeah.
all right, its all good
naam ke tera

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 08:24 PM
My last name is Mudi, close to mundi.

So am I close?

NOPE it has to match lol

sikhndconquer
February 22nd, 2007, 08:24 PM
badiya chillion at home
wating for my boy to get of colloge, go chillion
may be manhatten for some gyros yummyyyyyyyy :P

oh next to that hilton hotel..i only ate there once...bakkwass ah..sunshine resturant..in flushing..good food..its pakistani owned

jattniz_chuttni
February 22nd, 2007, 08:25 PM
all right, its all good
naam ke tera
Yup. It's Av, yours?

Ketamine-Abuse
February 22nd, 2007, 08:25 PM
My last name is Mudi, close to mundi.

So am I close?


NO YOU ARE CHUMAR BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SPELL

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 08:26 PM
Yup. It's Av, yours?
av mhmmmm unique
they call me prince, you go to school?? or somthing

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 08:27 PM
NO YOU ARE CHUMAR BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SPELL
lol dont start no fight, whasz gewd

kudiPaTaKa
February 22nd, 2007, 08:27 PM
:roll: Look at all these Jatt wannabes.

sikhndconquer
February 22nd, 2007, 08:29 PM
:roll: Look at all these Jatt wannabes.

tusi gussa wich ho? enna gussa nahi karna chahi da..sohnayo

jattniz_chuttni
February 22nd, 2007, 08:29 PM
av mhmmmm unique
they call me prince, you go to school?? or somthing
Yep.
Do you live in queens? I'm getting vibes you live around RH.

Ketamine-Abuse
February 22nd, 2007, 08:30 PM
lol dont start no fight, whasz gewd


I AM THARKHAN...WANT ME TO SHOW YOU WHAT I CAN DO WITH THIS PIECE OF STICK WOOD?

kudiPaTaKa
February 22nd, 2007, 08:30 PM
tusi gussa wich ho? enna gussa nahi karna chahi da..sohnayo
Ve mainu kadhey li gussa aavey? Das mainu...

jattniz_chuttni
February 22nd, 2007, 08:31 PM
I AM THARKHAN...WANT ME TO SHOW YOU WHAT I CAN DO WITH THIS PIECE OF STICK WOOD?
You want to chaak the phaata?

sikhndconquer
February 22nd, 2007, 08:32 PM
Ve mainu kadhey li gussa aavey? Das mainu...


pata nahi tusi kudipataka joh hoye...kadeh vi phot sakdeh ho?

Ketamine-Abuse
February 22nd, 2007, 08:34 PM
You want to chaak the phaata?


No I'm going to turn it into a dildo and stick it up your ass

jattniz_chuttni
February 22nd, 2007, 08:34 PM
No I'm going to turn it into a dildo and stick it up your ass
:no:

kudiPaTaKa
February 22nd, 2007, 08:35 PM
pata nahi tusi kudipataka joh hoye...kadeh vi phot sakdeh ho?
:lol: Nice.

kudiPaTaKa
February 22nd, 2007, 08:36 PM
No I'm going to turn it into a dildo and stick it up your ass
Hey you, be nice.

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 08:44 PM
Yep.
Do you live in queens? I'm getting vibes you live around RH.
lol nahhhhhhh
im in long island, i most grew up with white people
not around too many fobs lol
and you?? i bet you from li
what town though lol

jattniz_chuttni
February 22nd, 2007, 08:45 PM
lol nahhhhhhh
im in long island, i most grew up with white people
not around too many fobs lol Ahh... same. lol I was expecting you to be from there. I guess all the bored LI desis post in this shit. And yes, whites > ghetto desi wannabees anyday.

*to answer your edit*

I'm not going to say what town I'm from, but I'm from the south coast. you?

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 08:50 PM
Ahh... same. lol I was expecting you to be from there. I guess all the bored LI desis post in this shit. And yes, whites > ghetto desi wannabees anyday.

*to answer your edit*

I'm not going to say what town I'm from, but I'm from the south coast. you?

acha you act like im come to your house but you know something though
you mom would love me :P im real good with the auntis ;)

jattniz_chuttni
February 22nd, 2007, 08:51 PM
acha you act like im come to your house but you know something though
you mom would love me :P im real good with the auntis ;) Lmao. Which town are you from though? And out of curiousity, if you do, which GW do you go to? I don't go, but would be interesting to know if I've met you before.

PuNjabi_RaNi*
February 22nd, 2007, 08:51 PM
Apparently im a 'Jatt'

But i see myself as a Sikh

sikhndconquer
February 22nd, 2007, 08:52 PM
Ahh... same. lol I was expecting you to be from there. I guess all the bored LI desis post in this shit. And yes, whites > ghetto desi wannabees anyday.

*to answer your edit*

I'm not going to say what town I'm from, but I'm from the south coast. you?

glen cove..glen rock i been to gurudwara there once..

jattniz_chuttni
February 22nd, 2007, 08:53 PM
glen cove..glen rock i been to gurudwara there once.. You're from Glen Cove? Nicee... And I haven't been to glen rock. Only carteret. Heard it's a nice GW.

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 08:54 PM
Lmao. Which town are you from though? And out of curiousity, if you do, which GW do you go to? I don't go, but would be interesting to know if I've met you before.
well i used to go to planview every friday and glen cove every sunday.
im sure i have you lol and i have another name people no me buy ;) so if you ask prince they wont know :P but im sure you can break it down cuz there only 4 jatts family around here that really go to the gurudwara and they have sons around my age =] oh one is in some country cuz of doctor so umm 3 lol

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 08:55 PM
glen cove..glen rock i been to gurudwara there once..
salya a jaya kar
main har sunday jana, kadi miss nahi karda lol

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 08:55 PM
You're from Glen Cove? Nicee... And I haven't been to glen rock. Only carteret. Heard it's a nice GW.
its glen cove lol

sikhndconquer
February 22nd, 2007, 08:55 PM
You're from Glen Cove? Nicee... And I haven't been to glen rock. Only carteret. Heard it's a nice GW.

nope not from glen cove..i got relatives in carteret..i am from bx boro..
yeh nice gurudwara..kartar pur is populated with punjabi's lol

jattniz_chuttni
February 22nd, 2007, 08:55 PM
well i used to go to planview every friday and glen cove every sunday.
im sure i have you lol and i have another name people no me buy ;) so if you ask prince they wont know :P but im sure you can break it down cuz there only 4 jatts family around here that really go to the gurudwara and they have sons around my age =] oh one is in some country cuz of doctor so umm 3 lol
Is your last name chawla? or Dhillon? Because I guarantee you I can find out who you are. And I looked at your pro, your name is Gurvinder... so hmm...

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 08:56 PM
Apparently im a 'Jatt'

But i see myself as a Sikh
acha i knwo why are the girls so like that lol

PuNjabi_RaNi*
February 22nd, 2007, 08:56 PM
acha i knwo why are the girls so like that lol

What are you on about?

:think:

sikhndconquer
February 22nd, 2007, 08:57 PM
What are you on about?

:think:

he means by that is..girls are more religious lol

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 08:57 PM
Is your last name chawla? or Dhillon? Because I guarantee you I can find out who you are. And I looked at your pro, your name is Gurvinder... so hmm...
shit
and ewwww chawla, there bhapas
im jatt lol adn im so no telling you my last name cuz apperntly everybody knoes me. i have had some incedents at GW that made me famous lol

jattniz_chuttni
February 22nd, 2007, 08:57 PM
nope not from glen cove..i got relatives in carteret..i am from bx boro..
yeh nice gurudwara..kartar pur is populated with punjabi's lol Lmao. You call is Kartar Pur too? haha. So many punjabis there. I've had some good times in Carteret. And the bronx? I don't hear of too many desis from there...

sikhndconquer
February 22nd, 2007, 08:58 PM
shit
and ewwww chawla, there bhapas
im jatt lol adn im so no telling you my last name cuz apperntly everybody knoes me. i have had some incedents at GW that made me famous lol


what u mean ewww man...dont act like jatts are fukin gods lol

PuNjabi_RaNi*
February 22nd, 2007, 08:58 PM
he means by that is..girls are more religious lol

Wow, that's a bit of a generalized statement to make.

:think:

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 08:59 PM
Lmao. You call is Kartar Pur too? haha. So many punjabis there. I've had some good times in Carteret. And the bronx? I don't hear of too many desis from there...
yea i know
i been too kartarpur,
i got some friends in nj, some of them are hella fmaous on you tube etc lol
enough about me mhmmmmmmm so are you really jatt or bhapa(papa)

sikhndconquer
February 22nd, 2007, 08:59 PM
Wow, that's a bit of a generalized statement to make.

:think:

i know i was kidding only

jattniz_chuttni
February 22nd, 2007, 08:59 PM
shit
and ewwww chawla, there bhapas
im jatt lol adn im so no telling you my last name cuz apperntly everybody knoes me. i have had some incedents at GW that made me famous lol Oh snap. GW drama is horrible. And lmao @ bhapas, that's how everybody responds to them. :no: But anyways, I barely go to Glen Cove or plainview so it won't matter if I know it! Give me clue mister...

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 09:00 PM
Wow, that's a bit of a generalized statement to make.

:think:

***** its true
we jatts may go otu with girls from different races
but at the end we alwayz only wanna marry a jatti
and its a fact, id only date jattis anwayz but you know :P
thoda apna pan jeha feel hunda, i dont know why im like that but i just am

sikhndconquer
February 22nd, 2007, 09:00 PM
Lmao. You call is Kartar Pur too? haha. So many punjabis there. I've had some good times in Carteret. And the bronx? I don't hear of too many desis from there...


yah i know..maybe i am not telling u the truth lol...ull find out tho

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 09:01 PM
Oh snap. GW drama is horrible. And lmao @ bhapas, that's how everybody responds to them. :no: But anyways, I barely go to Glen Cove or plainview so it won't matter if I know it! Give me clue mister...
NOPE ;) why dont you give me some lol
oh yea one thing im the best looking guy out of all
i mean serious cuz i used to dress up even to the gurudwara lol

jattniz_chuttni
February 22nd, 2007, 09:01 PM
yea i know
i been too kartarpur,
i got some friends in nj, some of them are hella fmaous on you tube etc lol
enough about me mhmmmmmmm so are you really jatt or bhapa(papa)
I'm a Jatt. But it seriously doesn't matter. And are those people who made those videos of Punjabi girls fighting at their highschool is who your talking about?

jattniz_chuttni
February 22nd, 2007, 09:02 PM
yah i know..maybe i am not telling u the truth lol...ull find out tho
Haha. Lie as you please. It won't affect me.

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 09:02 PM
I'm a Jatt. But it seriously doesn't matter. And are those people who made those videos of Punjabi girls fighting at their highschool is who your talking about?
oh i happpen to knwo the girl in the sixer shirt LMAO
was it them i dont remember lol cuz then you find out who i am ;)

.:[TIGA]:.
February 22nd, 2007, 09:02 PM
***** its true
we jatts may go otu with girls from different races
but at the end we alwayz only wanna marry a jatti
and its a fact, id only date jattis anwayz but you know :P
thoda apna pan jeha feel hunda, i dont know why im like that but i just am
Siyaneya ne aakhaya..

Run Hoveh Jatti Baaki Sab Chatti!

sikhndconquer
February 22nd, 2007, 09:03 PM
:.']Siyaneya ne aakhaya..

Run Hoveh Jatti Baaki Sab Chatti!

wah wah

jattniz_chuttni
February 22nd, 2007, 09:04 PM
NOPE ;) why dont you give me some lol
oh yea one thing im the best looking guy out of all
i mean serious cuz i used to dress up even to the gurudwara lol You're a cocky LI boy. :no:
But shit. Now I wonder what your last name is. I probably met you before.
And do you know about the Bandana crew guys at Plainview GW?
If you know who Khuljinder/Micky is, he's my first cousin. He was the dude that sucked at driving and drove in the Nissan Pathfinder until he totaled it. :no:
But yeah. You're so totally starting to suck because I've probably met you before...

jattniz_chuttni
February 22nd, 2007, 09:06 PM
oh i happpen to knwo the girl in the sixer shirt LMAO
was it them i dont remember lol cuz then you find out who i am ;)
I sooooo got you figured out.

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 09:08 PM
You're a cocky LI boy. :no:
But shit. Now I wonder what your last name is. I probably met you before.
And do you know about the Bandana crew guys at Plainview GW?
If you know who Khuljinder/Micky is, he's my first cousin. He was the dude that sucked at driving and drove in the Nissan Pathfinder until he totaled it. :no:
But yeah. You're so totally starting to suck because I've probably met you before...
hell noooooooo
you mean your preets cuzing ;) im messing lol
he mad chills

jattniz_chuttni
February 22nd, 2007, 09:09 PM
hell noooooooo
you mean your preets cuzing ;) im messing lol
he mad chills Preet? Don't know who he is. If you're referring to Micky NOW? Yeah, he has some of his priorities in order.

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 09:10 PM
I sooooo got you figured out.
acha oh reallyyyy
i think i might know who you are
if your micky cuzing
cuz i know this girl that is related to him etc
but i dont talk to her
and i think its you but i dont know you name

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 09:10 PM
Preet? Don't know who he is. If you're referring to Micky NOW? Yeah, he has some of his priorities in order.
i know him lol

jattniz_chuttni
February 22nd, 2007, 09:12 PM
acha oh reallyyyy
i think i might know who you are
if your micky cuzing
cuz i know this girl that is related to him etc
but i dont talk to her
and i think its you but i dont know you name Av? That's mine. If you're referring to Jas? That's my sis. Otherwise he has other cousins on his dad's side that live in Suffolk. So you might be talking about them.

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 09:14 PM
Av? That's mine. If you're referring to Jas? That's my sis. Otherwise he has other cousins on his dad's side that live in Suffolk. So you might be talking about them.

http://www.myspace.com/xmicky420x
you mean this micky??

jattniz_chuttni
February 22nd, 2007, 09:17 PM
http://www.myspace.com/xmicky420x
you mean this micky?? Nooooo. My cuz is like 24. He's an old school fobster now. But I remember he got into a fight with this old lady at the GW about this earring. lol.

And you suck. Mainly because you won't tell me who you are.

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 09:21 PM
Nooooo. My cuz is like 24. He's an old school fobster now. But I remember he got into a fight with this old lady at the GW about this earring. lol.

And you suck. Mainly because you won't tell me who you are.

oh okay yea then this other micky then lol i dont really associate with many people there so yea, they jstu say hit to me when they see me but i dont chill with them or anything. and oh dhillion, no that not my last name but one of my cool as friend is and oh to help im not sardar :P but my friends are so yea ;) and not like you tell me who you are, againg name is princeeeee singh hehe

jattniz_chuttni
February 22nd, 2007, 09:24 PM
oh okay yea then this other micky then lol i dont really associate with many people there so yea, they jstu say hit to me when they see me but i dont chill with them or anything. and oh dhillion, no that not my last name but one of my cool as friend is and oh to help im not sardar :P but my friends are so yea ;) and not like you tell me who you are, againg name is princeeeee singh hehe
Fak. Let's make this quick and painless.

Pm your name and pic to me pronto. Uno.

foreverconfused
February 22nd, 2007, 09:25 PM
There are a number of problems with the rebuttals in the first post. (including using innaccurate comparisons and innaccurate information).

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 09:26 PM
Fak. Let's make this quick and painless.

Pm your name and pic to me pronto. Uno.
why do you care lol and actually
now im thinking dont know you
i mightve seen you before but i dont know you or met you, you prolly seen me cuz i tend to stand out usually cuz i alwayz wear some odd as color like lets say pink to gurudwara lol

jattniz_chuttni
February 22nd, 2007, 09:28 PM
why do you care lol and actually
now im thinking dont know you
i mightve seen you before but i dont know you or met you, you prolly seen me cuz i tend to stand out usually cuz i alwayz wear some odd as color like lets say pink to gurudwara lol
Whatever floats your boat.

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 09:30 PM
Whatever floats your boat.
lol yea
you got mysapce??

sikhndconquer
February 22nd, 2007, 09:32 PM
pink to the gurudwara lol

jattniz_chuttni
February 22nd, 2007, 09:32 PM
lol yea
you got mysapce??I don't give out my myspace to strangers. :hand:

jattniz_chuttni
February 22nd, 2007, 09:33 PM
pink to the gurudwara lol lmao. yeah. cocky much?

dandiwal_jatt
February 22nd, 2007, 09:34 PM
jatts always end up getting hated on in these threads

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 09:45 PM
I don't give out my myspace to strangers. :hand:
then why do you except a stranger to tell you about them ;)

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 09:46 PM
pink to the gurudwara lol
yea with pink bandanad
with pink shoes lol
yep thats me
i alwayz stand out lol

jattniz_chuttni
February 22nd, 2007, 09:46 PM
then why do you except a stranger to tell you about them ;)
Gosh... like i said before.

This could be quick and painless if you just pmed me your pic. But you won't budge. So whatevs.

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 09:47 PM
jatts always end up getting hated on in these threads
aho yaarrrrrr
oye pashan laya bro main kon a
ohi confident jatt.........niqqawidstandardz ;) bruahhhhhhhhh
im backkkkkkk lol

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 09:47 PM
Gosh... like i said before.

This could be quick and painless if you just pmed me your pic. But you won't budge. So whatevs.
all right
you got msn???

jattniz_chuttni
February 22nd, 2007, 09:48 PM
aho yaarrrrrr
oye pashan laya bro main kon a
ohi confident jatt.........niqqawidstandardz ;) bruahhhhhhhhh
im backkkkkkk lol
That's who you are. :neutral:

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 09:53 PM
That's who you are. :neutral:
i have standadz yep yep lol
now the Q is who are yo ulol
give me yoru myspace

jattniz_chuttni
February 22nd, 2007, 09:59 PM
i have standadz yep yep lol
now the Q is who are yo ulol
give me yoru myspace
Aha. No commet. Buh Bye.

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 10:03 PM
Aha. No commet. Buh Bye.
excuse meeeeeeee
you sure you know who i am ;) lol

jattniz_chuttni
February 22nd, 2007, 10:08 PM
excuse meeeeeeee
you sure you know who i am ;) lol
I'm extraaaaa sure as to who you are. No comment again.

XZamanulNezaX
February 22nd, 2007, 10:28 PM
Jatts are a branch of Scythians I'm told?

NdNStaTEofMinD
February 22nd, 2007, 10:40 PM
Yeah theyre kinda descendants of Scythians, just like some other groups of the subcontinent. But by no means are Jatts pure as it was when they first arrived in India/Pakistan.

Either way I agree with the dude who started the thread: Jatt aint a caste, It is a tribe. n Oh yeah, Jatts are found outside of Punjab as well, in the states of Haryana, Rajesthan, UP, MP, Gujarat, Sindh(pakiland), and Kashmir. Shit there are even some in Afghanistan(although they could be rajput or gujjar due to common last names) cus i saw some site listin afghan hindu and sikh last names and some were well known Jatt/Rajput clans.

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 10:42 PM
Yeah theyre kinda descendants of Scythians, just like some other groups of the subcontinent. But by no means are Jatts pure as it was when they first arrived in India/Pakistan.

Either way I agree with the dude who started the thread: Jatt aint a caste, It is a tribe. n Oh yeah, Jatts are found outside of Punjab as well, in the states of Haryana, Rajesthan, UP, MP, Gujarat, Sindh(pakiland), and Kashmir. Shit there are even some in Afghanistan(although they could be rajput or gujjar due to common last names) cus i saw some site listin afghan hindu and sikh last names and some were well known Jatt/Rajput clans.

i know lol

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 22nd, 2007, 10:43 PM
I'm extraaaaa sure as to who you are. No comment again.
man wat evaaaaaa
i knew you wanst gonan tell me who you are
tahts why i wasnt telling you :P all girls are like that
alwayz xcept you to do everything etc but never reveal anything about them

NdNStaTEofMinD
February 22nd, 2007, 11:07 PM
Where did that candy23 go? I want to know what she/he says about this...She didn't give me actual evidence to prove that the real Jats are only from Punjab.

haha shes just an idiot. Only those ignorant teen Sikh Jatts say that only Sikh punjabi Jatts are the real ones. I love introducin my cus or uncle(guju jats) to any of my punjabi friends, kills the usual guju stereotypes....you just gotta be there, cant really describe it.

Atharvan
February 24th, 2007, 12:43 AM
all hindu jats are not ethnically the same as sikh/muslim jatts.Only the dhes jats from haryana have the same background as Jatts of Punjab.

NdNStaTEofMinD
February 24th, 2007, 01:18 AM
The difference is not based on religion, its the clan. Some clans have been more mixed in. But they all still Jat/Jatt.

All the non punjabi Jats I know acknowledge that Jatt Muslims/Sikhs and Hindu jats are basically the same thing. Like two sides of the same coin.

SiKhEzT PuNjAbii
February 24th, 2007, 08:00 PM
all hindu jats are not ethnically the same as sikh/muslim jatts.Only the dhes jats from haryana have the same background as Jatts of Punjab.
true

NdNStaTEofMinD
February 25th, 2007, 12:04 AM
true
Not really.

Atharvan
February 28th, 2007, 02:45 PM
The difference is not based on religion, its the clan. Some clans have been more mixed in. But they all still Jat/Jatt. .

if you are mixed with other castes then u can't claim to be a jat.

NdNStaTEofMinD
February 28th, 2007, 04:12 PM
if you are mixed with other castes then u can't claim to be a jat.
In that case 95% of Jats out there are fakes. Jats are no way as pure as they were when they first entered the subcontinent and thats a Fact. They HAD to have mixed in to some extent with the local population.

paulie walnuts
February 28th, 2007, 06:41 PM
I love introducin my cus or uncle(guju jats) to any of my punjabi friends, kills the usual guju stereotypes....you just gotta be there, cant really describe it.sounds mindblowing.

pics?