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ilyas@!!oops!!
February 13th, 2007, 02:02 PM
Valentines Day?

i guess it's ok if your married!

but if you have a BF or GF it's wrong?


sorry can't access Serious Discussions

but I guess Space-Cowboy can answer this one!!!!!!

:Paper::Paper:

daswissbeats
February 13th, 2007, 02:03 PM
Valentines Day?

i guess it's ok if your married!

but if you have a BF or GF it's wrong?


sorry can't access Serious Discussions

but I guess Space-Cowboy can answer this one!!!!!!

:Paper::Paper:

u mean go out wif ur bf or gf or just regular go out

zuiwaziri
February 13th, 2007, 02:05 PM
Depends on who u ask.

Some ppl will tell u tht breathing air tht has been in the same atmosphere as a non-muslim is Haram.

Oh and Dating is Haram.

ilyas@!!oops!!
February 13th, 2007, 02:06 PM
Depends on who u ask.

Some ppl will tell u tht breathing air tht has been in the same atmosphere as a non-muslim is Haram.

Oh and Dating is Haram.
Dating is Haram is it? :sarb: :neutral:

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 02:07 PM
Valentines Day?

i guess it's ok if your married!

but if you have a BF or GF it's wrong?


sorry can't access Serious Discussions

but I guess Space-Cowboy can answer this one!!!!!!

:Paper::Paper:

Dating isnt aloud to begin with.. So i guess going out shouldn't be an issue then :dunno:

zuiwaziri
February 13th, 2007, 02:07 PM
Dating is Haram is it? :sarb: :neutral:
Yes.

Kbye :Paper:

DasJa
February 13th, 2007, 02:08 PM
Dating isnt allowed to begin with.. So i guess going out shouldn't be an issue then :dunno:
*FIXED*

ilyas@!!oops!!
February 13th, 2007, 02:09 PM
Dating isnt aloud to begin with.. So i guess going out shouldn't be an issue then :dunno:

some imams say it's ok...... :sarb:

ilyas@!!oops!!
February 13th, 2007, 02:10 PM
Yes.

Kbye :Paper:
:( :neutral:

taleb
February 13th, 2007, 02:10 PM
lol, why is v-day any different ??

and dating is haraam dude

DesieL
February 13th, 2007, 02:11 PM
some imams say it's ok...... :sarb:

As long as they can accompany you when you go out on a date. :idea:

Angelos
February 13th, 2007, 02:12 PM
All these people doing all those haraam things :no:

:Pray:

sick_o
February 13th, 2007, 02:12 PM
lol i guess it sux 2 be muslim

Menace_2_societY
February 13th, 2007, 02:13 PM
its not haram :neutral:

unless you do something haram :naughty:

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 02:13 PM
some imams say it's ok...... :sarb:



really now.. I wanna meet these imams :p


But really that wouldn't make sense considering youre not even supposed to hug a non-muharram.. so going as far as dating wouldnt make sense

Space-Cowboy
February 13th, 2007, 02:13 PM
Valentines Day?

i guess it's ok if your married!

but if you have a BF or GF it's wrong?


sorry can't access Serious Discussions

but I guess Space-Cowboy can answer this one!!!!!!

:Paper::Paper:


Eh? No I can't... I'm not Muslim :-s




But I'm guessing if you're doing it for the purposes of acknowledging Valentine's Day as a significant occasion, it might be thought of that way.....

You'd have to ask Muslima, or Khanbaba, or KNS for this one. :dunno:

ilyas@!!oops!!
February 13th, 2007, 02:14 PM
lol, why is v-day any different ??

and dating is haraam dude
my imam told me it's ok....... :neutral:

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 02:14 PM
As long as they can accompany you when you go out on a date. :idea:
ya ..I guess if it is with the intention of marriage and u guys wanna spend time together..but sumone has to be 'supervising'

fratty
February 13th, 2007, 02:14 PM
Valentines Day is not a muslim holiday, so I would think its pretty haraam. I mean if muslims cannot say Merry Christmas or happy diwali I do not see how they can celebrate Valentines Day

ilyas@!!oops!!
February 13th, 2007, 02:15 PM
really now.. I wanna meet these imams :p


But really that wouldn't make sense considering youre not even supposed to hug a non-muharram.. so going as far as dating wouldnt make sense
i don't like ur views....... :neutral:

P1thug
February 13th, 2007, 02:17 PM
lol i guess it sux 2 be muslim

no......... islam is a way of life and its the fastest growing religion in the world

DesieL
February 13th, 2007, 02:18 PM
ya ..I guess if it is with the intention of marriage and u guys wanna spend time together..but sumone has to be 'supervising'

Also you never know when some hot premarital sex may incur.
One always need a cameraman :idea:

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 02:21 PM
Valentines Day is not a muslim holiday, so I would think its pretty haraam. I mean if muslims cannot say Merry Christmas or happy diwali I do not see how they can celebrate Valentines Day


wat? :neutral: ..Yes u can say it .. I've always attended christmas parties or diwali festivals..just never participated in the religious prayers and stuff..

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 02:21 PM
Also you never know when some hot premarital sex may incur.
One always need a cameraman :idea:


Lol...Must control those Urges :(

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 02:24 PM
i don't like ur views....... :neutral:


theyre not my views dear..lOl.. its not allowed,Big deal .. in the end people do what suits them best anyway

P1thug
February 13th, 2007, 02:26 PM
theyre not my views dear..lOl.. its not allowed,Big deal .. in the end people do what suits them best anyway

only those hu dont beleive in relegion

fratty
February 13th, 2007, 02:27 PM
The muslims I know have never once said such a greeting to me, but I have said
Happy Eid to them. And then I read someone that it was haram for muslims to do religious greetings such as Merry Christmas.

P1thug
February 13th, 2007, 02:28 PM
theyre not my views dear..lOl.. its not allowed,Big deal .. in the end people do what suits them best anyway
only those hu dont belive in religeon

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 02:29 PM
The muslims I know have never once said such a greeting to me, but I have said
Happy Eid to them. And then I read someone that it was haram for muslims to do religious greetings such as Merry Christmas.


lols that sounds silly ... and its rude that people wouldn't do something as simple as greeting ..

americanmohit
February 13th, 2007, 02:30 PM
its not haram :neutral:

unless you do something haram :naughty:


lolll

P1thug
February 13th, 2007, 02:30 PM
The muslims I know have never once said such a greeting to me, but I have said
Happy Eid to them. And then I read someone that it was haram for muslims to do religious greetings such as Merry Christmas.
whr u frm? lol we always say happy diwali to all our indian mates

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 02:34 PM
only those hu dont belive in religeon


you mean :

only those who don't believe in religion?

almost everyone follows their religion just they way they want it.. I mean i don't wear a hijab and stuff.. when i should be.. but then again its not as simple as just covering ur hair.. its a way of life.. i know i havn't reached that level of maturity to change myself in all aspects.. inshallah some day for sure though

ilyas@!!oops!!
February 13th, 2007, 02:34 PM
theyre not my views dear..lOl.. its not allowed,Big deal .. in the end people do what suits them best anyway
u have no love..... :neutral: :(

DesieL
February 13th, 2007, 02:34 PM
lols that sounds silly ... and its rude that people wouldn't do something as simple as greeting ..

You are not a true Muslim then friend :idea:

ilyas@!!oops!!
February 13th, 2007, 02:34 PM
The muslims I know have never once said such a greeting to me, but I have said
Happy Eid to them. And then I read someone that it was haram for muslims to do religious greetings such as Merry Christmas.
what about birthdays?

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 02:35 PM
whr u frm? lol we always say happy diwali to all our indian mates
lols ya i know..i kinda find it odd that hes never had a muslim greet him.. Not nice :(

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 02:36 PM
You are not a true Muslim then friend :idea:

a true muslim is not supposed to greet a non muslim on their religious/ festive occasion?.. :sarb:

P1thug
February 13th, 2007, 02:38 PM
you mean :

only those who don't believe in religion?

almost everyone follows their religion just they way they want it.. I mean i don't wear a hijab and stuff.. when i should be.. but then again its not as simple as just covering ur hair.. its a way of life.. i know i havn't reached that level of maturity to change myself in all aspects.. inshallah some day for sure though
not everyone follow there religion some people dont have any religion i no some people hu just believe in themselves thy dont beleive in god and i m not tht mature coz its very hard to follow all the rules of islam these days

Sapnokirani916
February 13th, 2007, 02:41 PM
Valentines Day?

i guess it's ok if your married!

but if you have a BF or GF it's wrong?


sorry can't access Serious Discussions

but I guess Space-Cowboy can answer this one!!!!!!

:Paper::Paper:


isnt it Haram to have a bf or gf in the first place?

DesieL
February 13th, 2007, 02:41 PM
a true muslim is not supposed to greet a non muslim on their religious/ festive occasion?.. :sarb:

Only if that brother's/sister's true intention is to convert the non believer.

By any means necessary :idea:

sparky11
February 13th, 2007, 02:41 PM
Valentines Day?

i guess it's ok if your married!

but if you have a BF or GF it's wrong?


sorry can't access Serious Discussions

but I guess Space-Cowboy can answer this one!!!!!!

:Paper::Paper:


is it haram to look at girls if ur a guy....i mean when ur walking down the street and look at another girl cause shes preety is that haram

Ash_s2002
February 13th, 2007, 02:42 PM
everything is haram :rolleyes:

P1thug
February 13th, 2007, 02:42 PM
lols ya i know..i kinda find it odd that hes never had a muslim greet him.. Not nice :(
lol he must be frm us

P1thug
February 13th, 2007, 02:43 PM
isnt it Haram to have a bf or gf in the first place?
it is haram

sparky11
February 13th, 2007, 02:43 PM
you mean :

only those who don't believe in religion?

almost everyone follows their religion just they way they want it.. I mean i don't wear a hijab and stuff.. when i should be.. but then again its not as simple as just covering ur hair.. its a way of life.. i know i havn't reached that level of maturity to change myself in all aspects.. inshallah some day for sure though

in other words ur gna have much fun as u can b4 u get married then u start being a good muslim...good job

ilyas@!!oops!!
February 13th, 2007, 02:43 PM
is it haram to look at girls if ur a guy....i mean when ur walking down the street and look at another girl cause shes preety is that haram
nooooo that's just looking! :D

ilyas@!!oops!!
February 13th, 2007, 02:44 PM
isnt it Haram to have a bf or gf in the first place?
not if ur gonna marry them i think! :sarb:

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 02:45 PM
not everyone follow there religion some people dont have any religion i no some people hu just believe in themselves thy dont beleive in god and i m not tht mature coz its very hard to follow all the rules of islam these days

ya true ..there are those that don't follow a perticular faith either but thats a diff story....i don't think following islam is hard per say.. its a way of life.. and all a choice.. no one can follow it to the dot..we aren't perfect/saints.. your intentions & the fact that u try to make the best choices keeping ur faith in mind is what i think should matter.. some aren't even close to being bothered.. & thats their choice ..their life..

sparky11
February 13th, 2007, 02:45 PM
ya ..I guess if it is with the intention of marriage and u guys wanna spend time together..but sumone has to be 'supervising'


yeh like havin ur dad next to you while u and ur bf r gettin it on

sparky11
February 13th, 2007, 02:46 PM
nooooo that's just looking! :D


its haram someone told me..someone said its haram to watch tv

P1thug
February 13th, 2007, 02:47 PM
is it haram to look at girls if ur a guy....i mean when ur walking down the street and look at another girl cause shes preety is that haram
yh it is haram u cant look at a girl twice its k if u looked at her once bt thn u have to look down and carry on walking

ilyas@!!oops!!
February 13th, 2007, 02:47 PM
yeh like havin ur dad next to you while u and ur bf r gettin it on
:roflbow: :rofl:

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 02:48 PM
in other words ur gna have much fun as u can b4 u get married then u start being a good muslim...good job

no didn't mean anything like that.. what do u mean as much fun as i can?...i don't do anything that is immoral to me.. just cause i don't wear a hijab doesn't mean i roam free & do what i want without thinking..& when did i mention anything about marriage .. or life after marriage

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 02:49 PM
everything is haram :rolleyes:


ur haram :rolleyes:

P1thug
February 13th, 2007, 02:49 PM
ya true ..there are those that don't follow a perticular faith either but thats a diff story....i don't think following islam is hard per say.. its a way of life.. and all a choice.. no one can follow it to the dot..we aren't perfect/saints.. your intentions & the fact that u try to make the best choices keeping ur faith in mind is what i think should matter.. some aren't even close to being bothered.. & thats their choice ..their life..
true

sparky11
February 13th, 2007, 02:49 PM
yh it is haram u cant look at a girl twice its k if u looked at her once bt thn u have to look down and carry on walking


i was walking down the street and saw this preety girl i looked at her,,,then i did put my head down....but for me to cross the road i looked up and she caught my eye again...i didnt intend to look at her but i did....im uessing i didnt do anyhtin haram??

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 02:50 PM
yeh like havin ur dad next to you while u and ur bf r gettin it on


Exactly! :neutral:

sparky11
February 13th, 2007, 02:50 PM
no didn't mean anything like that.. what do u mean as much fun as i can?...i don't do anything that is immoral to me.. just cause i don't wear a hijab doesn't mean i roam free & do what i want without thinking..& when did i mention anything about marriage .. or life after marriage

the picture u have up...girl u have bice body

HeAvYmAcHiNeGuN
February 13th, 2007, 02:52 PM
Valentines Day?

i guess it's ok if your married!

but if you have a BF or GF it's wrong?


sorry can't access Serious Discussions

but I guess Space-Cowboy can answer this one!!!!!!

:Paper::Paper:

i really dont know about it

P1thug
February 13th, 2007, 02:52 PM
i was walking down the street and saw this preety girl i looked at her,,,then i did put my head down....but for me to cross the road i looked up and she caught my eye again...i didnt intend to look at her but i did....im uessing i didnt do anyhtin haram??
no u didnt

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 02:52 PM
the picture u have up...girl u have bice body


too bad its haram

sparky11
February 13th, 2007, 02:53 PM
no u didnt

Someone told me that its haram for us to jerk off,,,is it true?

sparky11
February 13th, 2007, 02:54 PM
too bad its haram

i dont mind being a harami for 3omins with ur body..i wud be the biggest harami u ever met lol

P1thug
February 13th, 2007, 02:56 PM
Someone told me that its haram for us to jerk off,,,is it true?
lol yh our prophet PBUH called tht person a lanti if u no wht tht means

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 02:58 PM
i dont mind being a harami for 3omins with ur body..i wud be the biggest harami u ever met lol

:Puker:








:gtfo:

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 02:58 PM
lol yh our prophet PBUH called tht person a lanti if u no wht tht means


lanati?

sparky11
February 13th, 2007, 02:59 PM
lol yh our prophet PBUH called tht person a lanti if u no wht tht means


im not a religious muslim i know i mess about but im tryna sort maself out...so hopw r guys supposed to jerk off.....if u think im being a stupid il leave a muslim bronther just needs some answers

ermsomething
February 13th, 2007, 02:59 PM
i dont mind being a harami for 3omins with ur body..i wud be the biggest harami u ever met lol
lol :lol:

P1thug
February 13th, 2007, 03:01 PM
im not a religious muslim i know i mess about but im tryna sort maself out...so hopw r guys supposed to jerk off.....if u think im being a stupid il leave a muslim bronther just needs some answers
its k

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 03:02 PM
its k


ur younger to me :D

i just had to say that .. sorry :neutral:

ilyas@!!oops!!
February 13th, 2007, 03:02 PM
:drama: :drama: :drama: :drama:

P1thug
February 13th, 2007, 03:03 PM
lanati?
i dont no how to explain its just like someone hus dead like people refers to shatan as a lanati

ilyas@!!oops!!
February 13th, 2007, 03:03 PM
i dont mind being a harami for 3omins with ur body..i wud be the biggest harami u ever met lol
:p :p :p :Pelvic2:

sparky11
February 13th, 2007, 03:04 PM
its k


so how r guys supposed to jerk?

R we allowed to date?

Is it haram to look at magazines with pictures?

P1thug
February 13th, 2007, 03:04 PM
ur younger to me :D

i just had to say that .. sorry :neutral:
lol i m 17

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 03:04 PM
:p :p :p :Pelvic2:


:no:

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 03:05 PM
lol i m 17
ya i know..i just checked ur profile :wavey: :p

P1thug
February 13th, 2007, 03:07 PM
so how r guys supposed to jerk?

R we allowed to date?

Is it haram to look at magazines with pictures?
u r nt supposed to jerk and date the best solution iz get married and its also haram to look at magsines with pictures and i m not sayin tht its jus wha it is in islam

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 03:07 PM
i dont no how to explain its just like someone hus dead like people refers to shatan as a lanati


lols..i think id get u if i could hear u say the word.. damn net :mad:

=Surge=
February 13th, 2007, 03:09 PM
I feel bad for you simple minded people. When will you stop allowing other people to use exaggerated ideologies to control and maniupulate you? If you stop and think about it for a minute, I'm sure you will realize the absurdity of the thread maker's question.

P1thug
February 13th, 2007, 03:10 PM
lols..i think id get u if i could hear u say the word.. damn net :mad:
kk n i m nt a molvi lol

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 03:11 PM
kk n i m nt a molvi lol


maulvis Rock :o

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 03:14 PM
I feel bad for you simple minded people. When will you stop allowing other people to use exaggerated ideologies to control and maniupulate you? If you stop and think about it for a minute, I'm sure you will realize the absurdity of the thread maker's question.


its RD .. the thread maker is muslim.. its all very obvoious.. but who cares :neutral: ..everyones on here to kill time

nayeemx33
February 13th, 2007, 03:14 PM
I guess valentine day is a pagan holiday?
So the answer is no if you're going out to celebrate valentine day.

P1thug
February 13th, 2007, 03:15 PM
maulvis Rock :o
lol not all of thm thr r some hu teaches u to be a true muslim but they themselves dont care

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 03:15 PM
I guess valentine day is a pagan holiday?
So the answer is no if you're going out to celebrate valentine day.

i want my cinnamon hearts/chocolates/ flowers..i want it all :anger:

=Surge=
February 13th, 2007, 03:16 PM
its RD .. the thread maker is muslim.. its all very obvoious.. but who cares :neutral: ..everyones on here to kill time


You're absolutely correct, but I had to input my 2 cents into this.

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 03:16 PM
lol not all of thm thr r some hu teaches u to be a true muslim but they themselves dont care


haha..chru! :p

w1ld
February 13th, 2007, 03:17 PM
everything is haram :rolleyes:
here you go :lol:

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 03:17 PM
You're absolutely correct, but I had to input my 2 cents into this.
:p

ya i know..atleast ur 2 cents wasn't a lame post :D

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 03:18 PM
here you go :lol:


LOl @ ur sig

w1ld
February 13th, 2007, 03:19 PM
LOl @ ur sig
:love: @ ur sig

nayeemx33
February 13th, 2007, 03:19 PM
i want my cinnamon hearts/chocolates/ flowers..i want it all :anger:

You're fat. Just stick to the flowers.

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 03:27 PM
You're fat. Just stick to the flowers.


LOL :rofl: Im far from fat...but U seem to think otherwise :(

_A-s-H-i_
February 13th, 2007, 03:28 PM
ma bf is halal i dont no abt urs

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 03:28 PM
:love: @ ur sig


:love: .. will u be my e-valentine?.. remember it has to be halal :rolleyes:

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 03:29 PM
ma bf is halal i dont no abt urs


its the cute .long haired girl! :cheers:

what are ur valentines day plans??

P1thug
February 13th, 2007, 03:29 PM
ma bf is halal i dont no abt urs
lmao

sparky11
February 13th, 2007, 03:29 PM
u r nt supposed to jerk and date the best solution iz get married and its also haram to look at magsines with pictures and i m not sayin tht its jus wha it is in islam


im 19 years old...i possibly cant get married, i have jerked before everyone has but now u have told me its wrong what do i do

nayeemx33
February 13th, 2007, 03:30 PM
LOL :rofl: Im far from fat...but U seem to think otherwise :(

Just accept the problem.

_A-s-H-i_
February 13th, 2007, 03:30 PM
its the cute .long haired girl! :cheers:

what are ur valentines day plans??
mmmmmmm i have to go to university tomra
we are goin to catch a movie n maybe have lunch cos i have uni 9-11 ooooooh ma first valentines day with some1 i :love:
wt abt u?

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 03:30 PM
Just accept the problem.


i prefer to stay in denial :rolleyes:

_A-s-H-i_
February 13th, 2007, 03:31 PM
lmao
:kekeke:

nayeemx33
February 13th, 2007, 03:31 PM
i prefer to stay in denial :rolleyes:

:no:

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 03:31 PM
mmmmmmm i have to go to university tomra
we are goin to catch a movie n maybe have lunch cos i have uni 9-11 ooooooh ma first valentines day with some1 i :love:
wt abt u?


awwwww.. are u getting him anything?

well i was gonna munch on candy..But SUMONE thinks im a moti :rolleyes:

P1thug
February 13th, 2007, 03:32 PM
im 19 years old...i possibly cant get married, i have jerked before everyone has but now u have told me its wrong what do i do
bro i dont no control it u will need it afta ur marriage lol

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 03:33 PM
:no:


I like being in my world :dunno:

5jabi420
February 13th, 2007, 04:00 PM
lolz having a bf or a gf is haram in the first place

di vinci
February 13th, 2007, 04:06 PM
lolz having a bf or a gf is haram in the first place
u taliban!!!!!!!!!

5jabi420
February 13th, 2007, 04:09 PM
u taliban!!!!!!!!!


hell yeahhh! :rambo:

di vinci
February 13th, 2007, 04:10 PM
hell yeahhh! :rambo:
dont worry bush has got his eyes on u. i mean sameer.

Malaika__
February 13th, 2007, 04:13 PM
Depends on who u ask.

Some ppl will tell u tht breathing air tht has been in the same atmosphere as a non-muslim is Haram.

Oh and Dating is Haram.
Lol, I know this girl and when you have lipgloss on in ramzaan she's like..''that's haraaaaamm''
And when asked if she would marry someone from the same religion as her she is like ''puhleezz i'm not old fashioned, I don't care'' :neutral:

P1thug
February 13th, 2007, 04:16 PM
Lol, I know this girl and when you have lipgloss on in ramzaan she's like..''that's haraaaaamm''
And when asked if she would marry someone from the same religion as her she is like ''puhleezz i'm not old fashioned, I don't care'' :neutral:
lol

_A-s-H-i_
February 13th, 2007, 04:21 PM
awwwww.. are u getting him anything?

well i was gonna munch on candy..But SUMONE thinks im a moti :rolleyes:
bought him a bench bracelet it got stolen
so i bought him a teddy tht sez together forever its cute
n bought him books

di vinci
February 13th, 2007, 04:22 PM
Lol, I know this girl and when you have lipgloss on in ramzaan she's like..''that's haraaaaamm''
And when asked if she would marry someone from the same religion as her she is like ''puhleezz i'm not old fashioned, I don't care'' :neutral:


she weird tell her she needs help n send her my way

Malaika__
February 13th, 2007, 04:27 PM
she weird tell her she needs help n send her my wayLol, you like women who always wear their hair in a braid, and wear glasses?

paki_canadian20
February 13th, 2007, 04:40 PM
dating is haram simple as that so theres no question abt valentines day as far as looking at other girls ,if u look at non muharram girls one time mistakenly thats forgivable but second time on puropose thats a sin i hope this clears up some misconceptions abt whats harram and what is not

nikefc7
February 13th, 2007, 04:50 PM
really now.. I wanna meet these imams :p


But really that wouldn't make sense considering youre not even supposed to hug a non-muharram.. so going as far as dating wouldnt make sense

meheram???

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 04:52 PM
dating is haram simple as that so theres no question abt valentines day as far as looking at other girls ,if u look at non muharram girls one time mistakenly thats forgivable but second time on puropose thats a sin i hope this clears up some misconceptions abt whats harram and what is not


the discussion with this thread was done long ago :no: ... but welcome to the forums :wavey:

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 04:53 PM
meheram???


from my understanding and the several times ive read the word .its been spelt
muharram :dunno: .. could be wrong..

nikefc7
February 13th, 2007, 04:54 PM
from my understanding and the several times ive read the word .its been spelt
muharram :dunno: .. could be wrong..

muharrams a month. i think meherams the word your looking for.

muslimbeauty06
February 13th, 2007, 04:55 PM
if ur muslim yeah..u cant even havea bf or gf its haraam

P1thug
February 13th, 2007, 04:57 PM
meheram???
mehram is somebody tht is not related to u

paki_canadian20
February 13th, 2007, 04:57 PM
from my understanding and the several times ive read the word .its been spelt
muharram :dunno: .. could be wrong..
ur right the word is spelled like muharram and sorry i left the forum thats why i replied late

P1thug
February 13th, 2007, 04:57 PM
mehram is somebody tht is not related to u
i mean non mehram is somebody tht is not related to u

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 04:58 PM
muharrams a month. i think meherams the word your looking for.


Yap muharram is the month..guess i did spell it wrong!..thanx for pointing it out :)

paki_canadian20
February 13th, 2007, 04:59 PM
mehram is somebody tht is not related to u

wait i am wrong the word is spelled like Mehrem actually muharram is a month i got confused damn i am feeling weird today

~*ZainaB*~
February 13th, 2007, 05:00 PM
ur right the word is spelled like muharram and sorry i left the forum thats why i replied late


im not too sure.. cause another forumer just reminded me about muharram being the month in the islamic calender..so i could be wrong

ilyas@!!oops!!
February 13th, 2007, 05:03 PM
if ur muslim yeah..u cant even havea bf or gf its haraam
so what are u and paki and proud about? hehe :p :p

Ugly_Desi
February 13th, 2007, 06:37 PM
Is it haram to go out on.....
Only if she is ugly.

.

muslimbeauty06
February 13th, 2007, 06:41 PM
so what are u and paki and proud about? hehe :p :p
were not going out lol :love:

*CUTIEE*
February 13th, 2007, 06:42 PM
I'm not going out this year anyways :dunno:.
My mother already told me no :roll2:, and i've gotta get ready for my trip..so really no time.

thegoldentouch
February 13th, 2007, 06:53 PM
What isn't 'haraam' in Islam ?

:lol:

whiteass
February 13th, 2007, 06:59 PM
Dating is Haram is it? :sarb: :neutral:

Damn it. :mad:

Ugly_Desi
February 13th, 2007, 07:00 PM
What isn't 'haraam' in Islam ?

:lol:
Sleeping.

There you go! :thumleft:

thegoldentouch
February 13th, 2007, 07:00 PM
:rofl: ^

umr420
February 13th, 2007, 07:06 PM
dating allowd.. its jus u der hasta b a 3rd person their.. nd no sex nd kissin of course

The Anti Desi
February 13th, 2007, 07:25 PM
Get married. Unless the person you are seeing is one you are seeking marriage from.


I have spoken.

thegoldentouch
February 13th, 2007, 09:36 PM
dating allowd.. its jus u der hasta b a 3rd person their.. nd no sex nd kissin of course

english please ?
thanks

sweet_like_choc
February 13th, 2007, 09:43 PM
Valentines Day?

i guess it's ok if your married!

but if you have a BF or GF it's wrong?


sorry can't access Serious Discussions

but I guess Space-Cowboy can answer this one!!!!!!

:Paper::Paper:

Yes.. Obviously!

selina_786
February 13th, 2007, 09:45 PM
um. Kay

Love_Baby
February 13th, 2007, 09:49 PM
Valentines Day?

i guess it's ok if your married!

but if you have a BF or GF it's wrong?


sorry can't access Serious Discussions

but I guess Space-Cowboy can answer this one!!!!!!

:Paper::Paper:


wtf???

its ppl like u who make the religion look so bad in fron of all

thegoldentouch
February 13th, 2007, 09:49 PM
^ :rofl:

*1001Nights*
February 13th, 2007, 09:55 PM
some imams say it's ok...... :sarb:
what imams do you talk to?

Lady Pimp
February 13th, 2007, 11:37 PM
my imam told me it's ok....... :neutral:your Imam is on crack

umr420
February 14th, 2007, 12:59 AM
english please ?
thanks
lol i said dating is allowed in islam, its just that their has to be a 3rd person their, like a parent or a sibling, a guy nd a girl who arent married or related are not allowed to b together alone, but as long as someone else is their your fine

umr420
February 14th, 2007, 12:59 AM
your Imam is on crack
my imam can kick ur imams butt!

*1001Nights*
February 14th, 2007, 02:35 PM
lol i said dating is allowed in islam, its just that their has to be a 3rd person their, like a parent or a sibling, a guy nd a girl who arent married or related are not allowed to b together alone, but as long as someone else is their your fine
not dating is not allowed.....maybe if your planning on marrying the person one or two chaperoned outings is ok bu dating is not :neutral:

ilyas@!!oops!!
February 15th, 2007, 09:06 PM
i was just testing u people........to see how far this will go!

duh......:Paper:

jat_jatt_sardar
February 23rd, 2007, 05:50 PM
Valentines Day?

i guess it's ok if your married!

but if you have a BF or GF it's wrong?


sorry can't access Serious Discussions

but I guess Space-Cowboy can answer this one!!!!!!

:Paper::Paper:
aren;t you supposed to get married to have make a partner in your religion?

-SyLpH-
March 2nd, 2007, 01:25 PM
its not haram :neutral:

unless you do something haram :naughty:

i think Menace_2_society is ryt...

Ive heard Going out wid anyone is not haram before marriage if u do not have any physical relationship in between.... its all allowed to have mental relationship ....lyk u can talk to da person .. know da person ( if u say havin sex or physical relationship wud help u know da person beta dan dats haram)
Islam sez u shudn marry any1 widout even knowin da person ,.,.cuz s/he might turn out to be da wrong person,.... :rolleyes:

P1thug
March 2nd, 2007, 01:45 PM
i think Menace_2_society is ryt...

Ive heard Going out wid anyone is not haram before marriage if u do not have any physical relationship in between.... its all allowed to have mental relationship ....lyk u can talk to da person .. know da person ( if u say havin sex or physical relationship wud help u know da person beta dan dats haram)
Islam sez u shudn marry any1 widout even knowin da person ,.,.cuz s/he might turn out to be da wrong person,.... :rolleyes:
wha u on abt hu told u......... it is haram

-SyLpH-
March 2nd, 2007, 05:51 PM
wha u on abt hu told u......... it is haram
who told u it is haram?? can u tell whr in quran or hadis it iswritten ?? i just want to know :rolleyes:

jat_jatt_sardar
March 3rd, 2007, 12:35 PM
i think Menace_2_society is ryt...

Ive heard Going out wid anyone is not haram before marriage if u do not have any physical relationship in between.... its all allowed to have mental relationship ....lyk u can talk to da person .. know da person ( if u say havin sex or physical relationship wud help u know da person beta dan dats haram)
Islam sez u shudn marry any1 widout even knowin da person ,.,.cuz s/he might turn out to be da wrong person,.... :rolleyes:
so if muslims make a prtner before marriage is it haram, and is muslims allowed concubines? Whats difference between a cocubine and gf?

nayeemx33
March 3rd, 2007, 12:38 PM
who told u it is haram?? can u tell whr in quran or hadis it iswritten ?? i just want to know :rolleyes:

Valentine Day is a pagan holiday. Muslims don't celebrate pagan holidays.

jat_jatt_sardar
March 3rd, 2007, 06:14 PM
pick them up, make em your gf, use them then put em back and make them your ex!

-SyLpH-
March 4th, 2007, 05:43 AM
Valentine Day is a pagan holiday. Muslims don't celebrate pagan holidays.


yea i heard dat.. but i was talkin abt goin out on usual days

-SyLpH-
March 4th, 2007, 05:46 AM
pick them up, make em your gf, use them then put em back and make them your ex!
definitely those guys r commitin sin.. but u din gt my point.. b4 marriage u need to know da person ur gttin married to.. so u need to spend sum time wid him/her.. this isn haram .. but doin lame stuffs wid ur partner is haram :rolleyes:

jat_jatt_sardar
March 4th, 2007, 09:18 AM
definitely those guys r commitin sin.. but u din gt my point.. b4 marriage u need to know da person ur gttin married to.. so u need to spend sum time wid him/her.. this isn haram .. but doin lame stuffs wid ur partner is haram :rolleyes:
being partner before marriage is a cheap and easy thing PERIOD

-SyLpH-
March 6th, 2007, 01:44 PM
being partner before marriage is a cheap and easy thing PERIOD
so u think marrying a total stranger is better dan knowin da person n den decidin?

P1thug
March 6th, 2007, 02:02 PM
who told u it is haram?? can u tell whr in quran or hadis it iswritten ?? i just want to know :rolleyes:
its nt haram if u gonna marry tht person bt the qstion was is it haram to go out on valentines day?

~CupCake~
March 6th, 2007, 02:21 PM
its nt haram if u gonna marry tht person bt the qstion was is it haram to go out on valentines day?

its haram.. ever heard of mehram... na mehram... sad you muslims don't know enough abt islam and just make up your own laws/rules... :rolleyes:

P1thug
March 6th, 2007, 02:27 PM
its haram.. ever heard of mehram... na mehram... sad you muslims don't know enough abt islam and just make up your own laws/rules... :rolleyes:
lol i no more thn u abt islam check out ma posts

P1thug
March 6th, 2007, 02:30 PM
its haram.. ever heard of mehram... na mehram... sad you muslims don't know enough abt islam and just make up your own laws/rules... :rolleyes:
i hv alrady sed abt mehram n non mehram

-SyLpH-
March 7th, 2007, 10:32 AM
alryt.. i heard dat valentine's day itself is haram.. !!!

jat_jatt_sardar
March 7th, 2007, 02:38 PM
so u think marrying a total stranger is better dan knowin da person n den decidin?
nah get to know someone like a civlised human being not like what animals do and take partners be4 marriage.

chakdephute
March 7th, 2007, 02:49 PM
nah get to know someone like a civlised human being not like what animals do and take partners be4 marriage.
So what are you saying? Get to know the person during marriage?

chakdephute
March 7th, 2007, 02:52 PM
nah get to know someone like a civlised human being not like what animals do and take partners be4 marriage.
Also, it's not civilized to keep hair. If it's natural then it means it's innate which means it's an animal instinct/quality. Animals don't cut hair, just like animals don't marry.

BTW, I'm Sikh and I'm not saying anything. I'm jsut showing the silliness of your argument.

jat_jatt_sardar
March 7th, 2007, 04:04 PM
Also, it's not civilized to keep hair. If it's natural then it means it's innate which means it's an animal instinct/quality. Animals don't cut hair, just like animals don't marry.

BTW, I'm Sikh and I'm not saying anything. I'm jsut showing the silliness of your argument.

Hows it not civilised? lol You don;t need animal instinct to grow hair lol. listen yeh humans got more brains than animals, humans got honour and dignity and self respect, not goin round like kutta and kuttiya.

thesoldier
March 7th, 2007, 04:43 PM
Some1 sent me this text message, thought i share it

This is how different religions celebrate brothers and sisters love.

Hindus do it by celebrating Rakhsha bandani

Sikhs do it by celebrating it by doing Rakhri

Muslims do it by going on a date on Valentines day :D :p


This was intended as a joke only, and not to stir up racial hatred :grouphug:

thesoldier
March 7th, 2007, 04:55 PM
VERY INTERESTING READ THIS

Concubine is halaal and Dating is Haram lol

concubine Definition:
A woman that lives with a man, but does not have the standing of a wife.


PERTANYAAN KEDUA :

I can understand the keeping the pow's, but i dont understand the ability of men to have concubines. It seems to go against everything ive learned about Islam. Its having illegal sexual relations w/ a woman. The woman is not your wife. I dont think i can ever understand this.

TANGGAPAN:

what is Islam? submission to God ! how do you know what is forbiden and allowed in Islam? you look at the Koran and Sunnah to find out.

So if you have evidences stating concubines are hallal then where is the confusion? how is sex with concubine ilegal if Allah has allowed it?

PERTANYAAN :

Din: I understand that but i just want to understand why its allowed b/c it doesnt seem like there is any morality in it. Why is dating haram while having a concubine halal?


TANGGAPAN :
hey thats where you go wrong
What is good? whatever Allah says is good
What is bad? whatever Allah says is bad
What is immoral? whatever Allah says is immoral
your way of thinking makes me wonder on how excactly do you understand Islamic Aqeda?

SOURCE: http://www.indonesia.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=127551&sid=49f6a5a9ba9735b30d2d94c2788dc3f6

jat_jatt_sardar
March 8th, 2007, 08:15 AM
Some1 sent me this text message, thought i share it

This is how different religions celebrate brothers and sisters love.

Hindus do it by celebrating Rakhsha bandani

Sikhs do it by celebrating it by doing Rakhri

Muslims do it by going on a date on Valentines day :D :p


This was intended as a joke only, and not to stir up racial hatred :grouphug:
I ain't sure about that.

Fallen-Angel
March 8th, 2007, 09:03 AM
for the most part its considered haram because it may lead to other things which are bigger sins (pre marital sex) etc etc so to avoid that its forbidden to do the whole bf, gf thing
both men and women should be in rememberance of god, how many times have girls gone all weepy n depressed cos their bfs left them and the whole "i wanna kill myself cos he left me/cheated on me" and vice versa n the last thing you think about are your prayers etc. Its different when your married he or she cant just wave goodbye and ignore you in the same way they could if you were dating.
If a guy likes a girl or she likes him n they want to get to know each other better, islamically they're allowed as long as theres a mehrem with them to sorta mediate (like a shapparone)

jat_jatt_sardar
March 8th, 2007, 09:30 AM
I just don;t think a girl should need to be someones bitch.

-SyLpH-
March 8th, 2007, 02:35 PM
nah get to know someone like a civlised human being not like what animals do and take partners be4 marriage.thats what i sed :)

jat_jatt_sardar
March 8th, 2007, 02:57 PM
thats what i sed :)
lol yeh well thast what I been trying to say as well
:D

desirably_Beauty
March 9th, 2007, 09:14 PM
I shouldnt even be typing this since Iam in a relationship.Anyways to answer the question in Islam pre-marital relationships of any kind between members of the opposite sex is forbidden.Muslims are prohibited from meeting a non-Mahram woman in seclusion without her Mahram, in order to avoid the temptation to commit the sin of adultery and fornication.

Here are a couple hadiths I've found:

1629. Ibn Abbas (May Allah be pleased with them) said: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "No one of you should meet a woman in privacy unless she is accompanied by a Mahram (i.e., a relative within the prohibited degrees).''
[Al-Bukhari and Muslim]

1622. Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) said: The Prophet (PBUH) said, "Allah has written the very portion of Zina which a man will indulge in. There will be no escape from it. The Zina of the eye is the (lustful) look, the Zina of the ears is the listening (to voluptuous songs or talk), the Zina of the tongue is (the licentious) speech, the Zina of the hand is the (lustful) grip, the Zina of the feet is the walking (to the place where he intends to commit Zina), the heart yearns and desires and the private parts approve all that or disapprove it.''
[Al-Bukhari and Muslim]