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bengoli_meg
January 2nd, 2007, 10:01 PM
just curious/bored...

ladies, what are the things men need to have in order for you to find them attractive versus the things you'd like them to have, but is compromisable? make two lists.

here's mine more or less:

Uncompromisable
Intelligence- Has to match my own level or go above it, but never be condescending about it.
Humour/Wit - I think this speaks for itself.
Cleanliness - Smells nice and clean. really, basic cleanliness.
Virtuous - Someone who is just good at heart. Again should match my own level of virtue, share my morality.

if a dude is missing any of the top four he has virtually no chance

Also Attractive
Confidence- but not to the point ofcockyness. arrogance is a huge turn off.
Artistic- doesn't necessarily mean he needs to know how to draw, any creative talent or interest is sexy. painters, writers, musicians, film, art, ect
Sense of style- dressing like a thug doesn't count as style
Romantic- This one is difficult. Ya'll don't need to be emasculating yourself, it's really the thoughtfulness of certain gestures that count. ie. flowers
Attentiveness- Making you feel like nothing else could possibly be more interesting at this very moment. Paying attention to your non-verbal cues.
Passionate-I don't mean horny...I mean having, compelled by, or ruled by emotion or strong feeling. Intensity! Apathetic guys are blah
Attractive looking - at least as good looking as myself, but made this list versus the other one because the standard is compromisable (added for The Dude)


uhhh there's prolly more, but w/e...this will do for the time being. I realise nobody has all the things in the second list, that's why it's only desirable and not completely necessary.

BadFingerBoogie
January 2nd, 2007, 10:02 PM
:gay:

KingDiamond
January 2nd, 2007, 10:03 PM
What if he has all those things, but has a vagina due to a genetic disorder?

BadFingerBoogie
January 2nd, 2007, 10:03 PM
ps i think we shoujld together i checked out the requirements.

do you want my resume?

ilyas@!!oops!!
January 2nd, 2007, 10:03 PM
u can get that on ebay.com...... :D

Gladiator
January 2nd, 2007, 10:04 PM
you said nothing about looks.

wouuld you really ever go for this guy?

http://www.bobbyworks.com/images/Ugly%20Guy.gif

i really love your glasses man, good luck getting bengoli_meg

bengoli_meg
January 2nd, 2007, 10:05 PM
What if he has all those things, but has a vagina due to a genetic disorder?

then he's not a man, is he? :rolleyes:

Rcade
January 2nd, 2007, 10:05 PM
you said nothing about looks.

wouuld you really ever go for this guy?

http://www.bobbyworks.com/images/Ugly%20Guy.gif

he looks intelligent, so i guess she would ?

bengoli_meg
January 2nd, 2007, 10:05 PM
ps i think we shoujld together i checked out the requirements.

do you want my resume?

yes. immediately.

post it in this thread.

lovestick
January 2nd, 2007, 10:06 PM
The problem with lists like this is every guy thinks he posseses all of those things. I know you're the ultimate arbiter and thus don't have to care for what every guy thinks, but can you quantify some of those things? How much confidence? How much intelligence? How clean? How romantic?

I think it would make for a better thread.

BadFingerBoogie
January 2nd, 2007, 10:06 PM
yes. immediately.

post it in this thread.

haha

where's the privacy?

bengoli_meg
January 2nd, 2007, 10:06 PM
you said nothing about looks.

wouuld you really ever go for this guy?



no. but i'm more interested in the non superficial qualities the women of RD are into.

i know plenty about what they physically think is hot.

Walktheline
January 2nd, 2007, 10:07 PM
Decent looking
musically inclined (in stuff I like)
ambitious
must love me and be nice to me
subtle, sarcastic would be nice too... you know reading between the lines
common sense, practical
confident! :)

desi_temptress01
January 2nd, 2007, 10:07 PM
What would be a no-no in your books?
I hate guys that smoke.

bengoli_meg
January 2nd, 2007, 10:09 PM
The problem with lists like this is every guy thinks he posseses all of those things. I know you're the ultimate arbiter and thus don't have to care for what every guy thinks, but can you quantify some of those things? How much confidence? How much intelligence? How clean? How romantic?

I think it would make for a better thread.

that's a good point actually. let me fix up my list a bit.

statix
January 2nd, 2007, 10:09 PM
Passionate (I don't mean horny...I mean having, compelled by, or ruled by emotion or strong feeling. Intensity!) you mean the types who cry after watching a sunset..woman PLEASE!!

shadyzgal08
January 2nd, 2007, 10:10 PM
you mean the types who cry after watching a sunset..woman PLEASE!!
thats not passionate thats just a pussy :rolleyes:

shadyzgal08
January 2nd, 2007, 10:11 PM
or this guy:


i heard he's pretty "passionate" and "intense" too.
does he have kids? :rishi:

NinjaPanther
January 2nd, 2007, 10:11 PM
How about

integrity
affectionate
aggressive (in sense of reaching goals)
intellectual (sometimes)
self awareness
progressive (future wise)

BadFingerBoogie
January 2nd, 2007, 10:11 PM
or this guy:

http://www.betterthanfudge.com/img/bonaduce.jpg

i heard he's pretty "passionate" and "intense" too.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

statix
January 2nd, 2007, 10:12 PM
or this guy:

http://www.betterthanfudge.com/img/bonaduce.jpg

i heard he's pretty "passionate" and "intense" too.

:rofl: he is conveying that deep sense of emotion and passion TBQH (to be quite honest)

vikownethu
January 2nd, 2007, 10:12 PM
Me is a perfectionist too, but if you're looking for all of that in a Desi lad, you'd have to be pretty fortunate.

Unless you're totally ruling out being superficial.

Gladiator
January 2nd, 2007, 10:13 PM
Intelligence
Humour/Wit
Cleanliness
Virtuous

i dont see her talking about eyesight. :dunno:

my bad, i should've clarified that in my earlier post, nothing wrong with eyesight, but i'm sure there will be plenty of guys lined up :dunno:

BadFingerBoogie
January 2nd, 2007, 10:13 PM
this is echelon's chance to pwn meg. :p

haha

ilyas@!!oops!!
January 2nd, 2007, 10:16 PM
shaddi.com....... :p

bengoli_meg
January 2nd, 2007, 10:21 PM
haha

where's the privacy?

privacy? on a forum?

how absurd.

bengoli_meg
January 2nd, 2007, 10:21 PM
Decent looking
musically inclined (in stuff I like)
ambitious
must love me and be nice to me
subtle, sarcastic would be nice too... you know reading between the lines
common sense, practical
confident! :)


you arn't following the rules. two lists, walkytalkie.

the stuff he has to have and the stuff you'll compromise on.

statix
January 2nd, 2007, 10:22 PM
women have these superficial idealistic views on what the perfect man should be like. Finding one that meets their criteria is like finding a needle in a haystack. Men arent so picky though and our lists of different attributes we look for dont exceed 1000. Our wants are simple 1.)big breasts, 2.)a sex drive which eclipses ours 3.)professionals in the bed as well as the kitchen. FIND ME SUCH A WOMAN

BadFingerBoogie
January 2nd, 2007, 10:22 PM
privacy? on a forum?

how absurd.

it's a common goal we can strive for.
pm?

oh yes that's right the admin eyes are ever watching.

BadFingerBoogie
January 2nd, 2007, 10:22 PM
you arn't following the rules. two lists, walkytalkie.

the stuff he has to have and the stuff you'll compromise on.
fight fight fight

Rcade
January 2nd, 2007, 10:23 PM
women have these superficial idealistic views on what the perfect man should be like. Finding one that meets their criteria is like finding a needle in a haystack. Men arent so picky though and our lists of different attributes we look for dont exceed 1000. Our wants are simple 1.)big breasts, 1.)a sex drive which eclipses ours 3.)professionals in the bed as well as the kitchen. FIND ME SUCH A WOMAN

http://www.diveclub.org/gallery_photos/events/halloween/French%20Maid.JPG

vikownethu
January 2nd, 2007, 10:24 PM
pretty much every desi guys meets the requirements in her first list, the one with the list of qualities she's not willing to compromise.

1. Intelligence: desi guys are generally intelligent. look at all the desi doctors, engineers etc.
2. Humour/Wit: again, intelligent people generally are funny/witty. rd, which is not the bastion of desi male greatness, is flooded with witty desi guys.
3. Cleanliness: sure, the guy who just came over from india is likely to have hygiene issues, but most desi guys born in america/canada/england dont.
4. Virtuous: im not sure what she means by this, but if she's going by what i think she means, then desi guys happen to be more virtuous than your average male.I do agree with you, hence there has to be a degree of superficiality involved. It becomes a different equation if its a slightly above half-decent looking lad with the same qualities, like with girls.

BigCrazyIndian
January 2nd, 2007, 10:24 PM
what?

religion isn't on your list of uncompromisables?

for shame.

bengoli_meg
January 2nd, 2007, 10:25 PM
How about

integrity
affectionate
aggressive (in sense of reaching goals)
intellectual (sometimes)
self awareness
progressive (future wise)


those are also all admirable. integrity fits under the virtuous category. affectionate fits under romantic (cause it is more of a romantic gesture, i know ya'll don't hold hands cause you like it). ambition is something that i used to really like in a guy, but i'm starting to realise it can be a detriment as well.

statix
January 2nd, 2007, 10:25 PM
http://www.diveclub.org/gallery_photos/events/halloween/French%20Maid.JPG

i forgot to mention beautiful in there LAWL but good find!!

bengoli_meg
January 2nd, 2007, 10:28 PM
pretty much every desi guys meets the requirements in her first list, the one with the list of qualities she's not willing to compromise.

1. Intelligence: desi guys are generally intelligent. look at all the desi doctors, engineers etc.
2. Humour/Wit: again, intelligent people generally are funny/witty. rd, which is not the bastion of desi male greatness, is flooded with witty desi guys.
3. Cleanliness: sure, the guy who just came over from india is likely to have hygiene issues, but most desi guys born in america/canada/england dont.
4. Virtuous: im not sure what she means by this, but if she's going by what i think she means, then desi guys happen to be more virtuous than your average male.

not every desi guy i meet is as smart as i am. and i know plenty of smart guys who aren't funny and are as dry as toast. those are uncompromisables...just because a guy has all four doesn't mean i'll fall for him. it just means i'll give him the time of day.

that's when list two comes into play. geez, The Dude.

so quick to shit all over my thread.

lovestick
January 2nd, 2007, 10:29 PM
thats why i dont like women and their lists. you know these lists are pointless.

the real list in a woman's head looks like this:

1. the best guy i can find who'd date me.

correct. it's interesting to see how they all say some variation of the same thing, too.

bengoli_meg
January 2nd, 2007, 10:30 PM
yup, there are no other requirements. they just come up with some garbage to make themselves look better than the other chicks.

UGG get out of my thread. don't you know a social experiment when you see one?

everyone can name what they find attractive. men and women both have lists. it doesn't mean it's always fufilled, but it doesn't mean there ISN'T one.

vikownethu
January 2nd, 2007, 10:31 PM
thats why i dont like women and their lists. you know these lists are pointless.

the real list in a woman's head looks like this:

1. the best guy i can find who'd date me.To be fair mate, it is understandable sometimes. Although certain girls can be in a bit of a fantasy world, there will come the odd occasion where as a guy, I'll find someone overall attractive, who doesn't completely befit "guidelines" that I have set out.

There is and always will be some exceptions, which does agree with your point that such lists should be taken with a pinch of salt.

bengoli_meg
January 2nd, 2007, 10:33 PM
correct. it's interesting to see how they all say some variation of the same thing, too.

well there are some things that attractive regardless of gender. but there are ways that it differs from person to person.

some women will not compromise confidence, an un-confident guy is a deal breaker. for me, i'm willing to compromise cause i find something kind of endearing about a guy who doesn't know what to do with himself when i'm around. not all women would agree.

bengoli_meg
January 2nd, 2007, 10:34 PM
so, echelon?

what about echelon?

Walktheline
January 2nd, 2007, 10:34 PM
you arn't following the rules. two lists, walkytalkie.

the stuff he has to have and the stuff you'll compromise on.


ooo my bad.. ok well let's see

MUST
good hygiene
bearable looking
musically inclined (in stuff I like)
ambitious
must love me and be nice to me
No addictions (alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, gambling)
similar religious views (I'm not very religious)
maturity
nonsmoker

GOOD THINGS
subtle, sarcastic would be nice too... you know reading between the lines
common sense, practical
confidence (its ok, we all got our hangups)
can change car oil, open jars, fix things
dry sense of humor

dr0pitlikeitzh0t
January 2nd, 2007, 10:34 PM
social experiment? lol oooooogay, rishi tex
:kekeke:

ProxDJ
January 2nd, 2007, 10:36 PM
Intelligence- Has to match my own level or go above it, but never be condescending about it.

I think that should eliminate 98% of us... lol those who think they have a shot, I think they are inviting themselves into the gauntlet just to get crushed because you are so nerdy yet very clever at hiding it...

would you remain single if one of those uncompromisable arent met at the age of 40?

BlackCadillacs
January 2nd, 2007, 10:37 PM
ooo my bad.. ok well let's see

MUST
good hygiene
bearable looking
musically inclined (in stuff I like)
ambitious
must love me and be nice to me
No addictions (alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, gambling)
similar religious views (I'm not very religious)
maturity
nonsmoker

GOOD THINGS
subtle, sarcastic would be nice too... you know reading between the lines
common sense, practical
confidence (its ok, we all got our hangups)
can change car oil, open jars, fix things
dry sense of humor


Out.

Echelon
January 2nd, 2007, 10:37 PM
just curious/bored...

ladies, what are the things men need to have in order for you to find them attractive versus the things you'd like them to have, but is compromisable? make two lists.

here's mine more or less:

Uncompromisable
Intelligence- Has to match my own level or go above it, but never be condescending about it.
Humour/Wit - I think this speaks for itself.
Cleanliness - Smells nice and clean. really, basic cleanliness.
Virtuous - Someone who is just good at heart. Again should match my own level of virtue.

if a dude is missing any of the top four he has virtually no chance

Also Attractive
Confidence- but not to the point ofcockyness. arrogance is a huge turn off.
Artistic- doesn't necessarily mean he needs to know how to draw, any creative talent or interest is sexy. painters, writers, musicians, film, art, ect
Sense of style- dressing like a thug doesn't count as style
Romantic- This one is difficult. Ya'll don't need to be emasculating yourself, it's really the thoughtfulness of certain gestures that count. ie. flowers
Attentiveness- Making you feel like nothing else could possibly be more interesting at this very moment. Paying attention to your non-verbal cues.
Passionate-I don't mean horny...I mean having, compelled by, or ruled by emotion or strong feeling. Intensity! Apathetic guys are blah
Attractive looking - at least as good looking as myself, but made this list versus the other one because the standard is compromisable (added for The Dude)


uhhh there's prolly more, but w/e...this will do for the time being. I realise nobody has all the things in the second list, that's why it's only desirable and not completely necessary.So, all in all the above can be described with two words: "The Echey"

bengoli_meg
January 2nd, 2007, 10:37 PM
what?

religion isn't on your list of uncompromisables?

for shame.


i'm undecided on this one...that's why it hasn't gone into either list.

statix
January 2nd, 2007, 10:38 PM
not every desi guy i meet is as smart as i am. and i know plenty of smart guys who aren't funny and are as dry as toast. those are uncompromisables...just because a guy has all four doesn't mean i'll fall for him. it just means i'll give him the time of day.

that's when list two comes into play. geez, The Dude.

so quick to shit all over my thread.

well define smart..Im hoping its not someone who considers explaining newtons law of gravity a form of foreplay. If not then your list is suprisingly "down to earth" and i think a lot of men can fit in with ur wants

BadFingerBoogie
January 2nd, 2007, 10:38 PM
Out.

:rofl:

bengoli_meg
January 2nd, 2007, 10:38 PM
Intelligence- Has to match my own level or go above it, but never be condescending about it.

I think that should eliminate 98% of us... lol those who think they have a shot, I think they are inviting themselves into the gauntlet just to get crushed because you are so nerdy yet very clever at hiding it...

would you remain single if one of those uncompromisable arent met at the age of 40?

who said i'm single now?

PakPlaya69
January 2nd, 2007, 10:39 PM
not every desi guy i meet is as smart as i am. and i know plenty of smart guys who aren't funny and are as dry as toast. those are uncompromisables...just because a guy has all four doesn't mean i'll fall for him. it just means i'll give him the time of day.

that's when list two comes into play. geez, The Dude.

so quick to shit all over my thread.

it just means i'll give him the time of day

Come on lady , you are a bit too cocky here, i bet you are single and will remain for quiet a long time , seriously if you start going by lists and stuff you ll be surprised what kinda guys you are going to attract, relax a little ,, will ya??? don be surprised if you fall for somone completly different , thats why love is blind unless you wana put conditions on it

Echelon
January 2nd, 2007, 10:39 PM
well define smart..Im hoping its not someone who considers explaining newtons law of gravity a form of foreplay. If not then your list is suprisingly "down to earth" and i think a lot of men can fit in with ur wants which begs the question of why ur single?Dawg, I've already done that with her and she digged it.

logik
January 2nd, 2007, 10:39 PM
so what if the guy is not book smart? but he's intelligent? :neutral:

ProxDJ
January 2nd, 2007, 10:41 PM
who said i'm single now?

I dont think you are married either?

bengoli_meg
January 2nd, 2007, 10:41 PM
So, all in all the above can be described with two words: "The Echey"

i'm going to have supper now.

i'll deal with you later.

lovestick
January 2nd, 2007, 10:42 PM
well there are some things that attractive regardless of gender. but there are ways that it differs from person to person.

some women will not compromise confidence, an un-confident guy is a deal breaker. for me, i'm willing to compromise cause i find something kind of endearing about a guy who doesn't know what to do with himself when i'm around. not all women would agree.

i think these lists are deceptive because it's impossible to measure all of those things objectively when selecting a mate. for example, a guy can be completely desirable in all ways except one or two, when measured objectively, but women would still be willing to date him because they'd adjust their previously unmalleable requirements given his other desirable qualities.

Walktheline
January 2nd, 2007, 10:43 PM
Pinky?

runs


"pinky" didn't have many of those qualities, sadly.

ProxDJ
January 2nd, 2007, 10:45 PM
Come on lady , you are a bit too cocky here, i bet you are single and will remain for quiet a long time , seriously if you start going by lists and stuff you ll be surprised what kinda guys you are going to attract, relax a little ,, will ya??? don be surprised if you fall for somone completly different , thats why love is blind unless you wana put conditions on it
i like the last line mate...

I think she is cocky unconciously but she is soft at heart but wont admit it....

statix
January 2nd, 2007, 10:45 PM
i think these lists are deceptive because it's impossible to measure all of those things objectively. for example, a guy can be completely desirable in all ways except one or two, when measured objectively, but women would still be willing to date him because they'd adjust their previously unmalleable requirements given his other desirable qualities.

its impossible to measure any of those traits objectively because they cannot be quantified. a person can still possess all of those traits in the eyes of one person but not the other. So that doesnt necessarily make the list deceptive

PakPlaya69
January 2nd, 2007, 10:52 PM
pakplaya69 to the rescuuuueeeeeee!

meg, you found a winnar :cheers:



Are you being sarcastic dickhead ;)

lovestick
January 2nd, 2007, 10:52 PM
its impossible to measure any of those traits objectively because they cannot be quantified. a person can still possess all of those traits in the eyes of one person but not the other. So that doesnt necessarily make the list deceptive

well, no, i think some of those things can be quantified with reasonable certainty. intelligence, humour, attractiveness, artistic acumen even -- all of these things are objectively quantifiable given a large sample size.

*CUTIEE*
January 2nd, 2007, 10:53 PM
Are you being sarcastic dickhead ;):rofl:

PakPlaya69
January 2nd, 2007, 10:55 PM
:rofl:

Fuck man , it takes me fuken hours to come up with something smart and youse all just make fun of me , far out , thats harshhhhh :mad:

*CUTIEE*
January 2nd, 2007, 10:56 PM
Fuck man , it takes me fuken hours to come up with something smart and youse all just make fun of me , far out , thats harshhhhh :mad:actually, i think he was giving you credit. :p

Walktheline
January 2nd, 2007, 10:57 PM
Are you being sarcastic dickhead ;)


you are walking the line.

PakPlaya69
January 2nd, 2007, 10:59 PM
actually, i think he was giving you credit. :p

Why cant he be straifght out , its hard for us pathans o read between the lines you know :p

Echelon
January 2nd, 2007, 10:59 PM
Uncompromisable
Intelligence- Has to match my own level or go above it, but never be condescending about it.
I think this one speaks for itself, no need for proof.

Humour/Wit - I think this speaks for itself.
as per above

Cleanliness - Smells nice and clean. really, basic cleanliness.
I iron/hand wash my dress shirts every time I wakeup. I'm very clean. I wear hugo boss 'orange' what can i say.

Virtuous - Someone who is just good at heart. Again should match my own level of virtue.

if a dude is missing any of the top four he has virtually no chance

I take after Spinoza himself, dawg!

Confidence- but not to the point ofcockyness. arrogance is a huge turn off.
I don't think you know what you want here. Confidence but not cocky? Are you f'ing joking. People who are confident are at least subconsciously cocky or are cocky inside their minds (they just sugar over things and pretend they're humble). I'd rather not play charade and pretend to be humble, when in my mind i'd be imagining making love to my own twin.

Anyways, girls always like cocky guys. Females are after all submissive creatures to an alpha male. They want to submit to his physique, his sexual prowess and his confidence.

Artistic- doesn't necessarily mean he needs to know how to draw, any creative talent or interest is sexy. painters, writers, musicians, film, art, ect

I'm no muscian, but the rest I do.
I paint, I know more about films than anybody on this forum and I know my art dawg.
But then again, i practice the best art of all, maths.

Sense of style- dressing like a thug doesn't count as style
This speaks for itself, I have better style than all the females on these forums, including you.

Romantic- This one is difficult. Ya'll don't need to be emasculating yourself, it's really the thoughtfulness of certain gestures that count. ie. flowers
Dawg, I know my gallantry. I am the quintessense of a gallant man. Not only that i know my poetry too. I can write better than seamusheaney (this is true), sheila. Besides, 'flowers' is not the way to capture a ladies heart, a single rose is much more poignant.
My name is italian, what can i say!

Attentiveness- Making you feel like nothing else could possibly be more interesting at this very moment. Paying attention to your non-verbal cues.
Look above: "the single rose" statement. Actually, attentitiveness is a pre-req of Romanticism now that I think about it.

Passionate-I don't mean horny...I mean having, compelled by, or ruled by emotion or strong feeling. Intensity! Apathetic guys are blah
I'm an 'on' or 'off' guy. I'm either passionate about something or im not. I either run at it 100mph or I don't run at all. Its why im so successful in life. I'm not 'average'. Another pre-req of romanticism.

Attractive looking - at least as good looking as myself, but made this list versus the other one because the standard is compromisable (added for The Dude)
This is already a given.

statix
January 2nd, 2007, 11:00 PM
well, no, i think some of those things can be quantified with reasonable certainty. intelligence, humour, attractiveness, artistic acumen even -- all of these things are objectively quantifiable given a large sample size.
of course but in the context of one persons opinion its impossible to objectively measure each different virtue because every individual has his own personal opinion. A person who comes off as being inarticualte dumb and humorless may seem to be the complete opposite in someone elses eyes.

Echelon
January 2nd, 2007, 11:00 PM
TheDude, you should sticky my b/f's "I need a e-g/f thread"

Walktheline
January 2nd, 2007, 11:00 PM
awwwwwwwwww, echey..

Walktheline
January 2nd, 2007, 11:02 PM
dont get mad at him cuz he likes meg and not you :hand:

he likes meg? I thought he hated you.
There is miscommunication here. To the modcave. :P

Echelon
January 2nd, 2007, 11:03 PM
echelon's posted. meg's found his man.

/threadDawg, she made this thread out of her own subconscious desires. I don't know what she expects of me. She's doing what every other previous desi girl has done before her: play hard to get.
Women have this wierd idea that if they play hard to get that men like myself will be more 'attracted' and thus 'secured' into the relationship.
What a load of bollocks!

I believe in being mutual.

Echelon
January 2nd, 2007, 11:05 PM
url?http://forums.ratehispanic.com/showthread.php?t=23466

lovestick
January 2nd, 2007, 11:06 PM
of course but in the context of one persons opinion its impossible to objectively measure each different virtue because every individual has his own personal opinion. A person who comes off as being inarticualte dumb and humorless may seem to be the complete opposite in someone elses eyes.

exactly what i said originally. my point was that given this reality, women adjust their previously uncompromisable standards on a case-by-case basis. these lists by themselves mean nothing because they don't include all things that draw people to each other, and they don't rank all of these things in importance compared to everything else. they are, hence, deceptive.

statix
January 2nd, 2007, 11:11 PM
Dawg, she made this thread out of her own subconscious desires. I don't know what she expects of me. She's doing what every other previous desi girl has done before her: play hard to get.
Women have this wierd idea that if they play hard to get that men like myself will be more 'attracted' and thus 'secured' into the relationship.
What a load of bollocks!

I believe in being mutual.

yeah im getting the feeling this thread was made particularly to attract your attention. I mean all the abusive banter must have amounted to something right? for shame bengoli u finally came out of the closet!

KhanNoonienSingh
January 2nd, 2007, 11:13 PM
i think you'd change your mind on intense guys after you met some.
Decent looking
musically inclined (in stuff I like)
ambitious
must love me and be nice to me
subtle, sarcastic would be nice too... you know reading between the lines
common sense, practical
confident! :)
i like how that's understatedly stuck in the middle there. :rofl:

Echelon
January 2nd, 2007, 11:14 PM
its impossible to measure any of those traits objectively because they cannot be quantified. a person can still possess all of those traits in the eyes of one person but not the other. So that doesnt necessarily make the list deceptive
Objectivity doesn't imply certainty.
It implies a 'most likely' model to objectify an idea.

For instance if you have a sample set of 1000 and you identify Paul Walker as your objective bachelor, you may still have a few anomaly cases which deny a date with him. But as long as it is a good measure and objectively better than other candidates, it is still 'measurable' per se.

For candidates that have traits, you can have a sample set to 'agree'/'disagree' whether the candidate possesses the trait.

Walktheline
January 2nd, 2007, 11:14 PM
i think you'd change your mind on intense guys after you met some.

i like how that's understatedly stuck in the middle there. :rofl:


hi, there.

KhanNoonienSingh
January 2nd, 2007, 11:16 PM
hi, there.
sup.

Echelon
January 2nd, 2007, 11:17 PM
Hey WTL. You know what, I'm wearin' a tweed jacket with patches and i'm wearin' a matching cardigan underneath it!

Walktheline
January 2nd, 2007, 11:17 PM
how come more girl's aren't replying?

bengoli_meg
January 2nd, 2007, 11:17 PM
ooo my bad.. ok well let's see

MUST
good hygiene
bearable looking
musically inclined (in stuff I like)
ambitious
must love me and be nice to me
No addictions (alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, gambling)
similar religious views (I'm not very religious)
maturity
nonsmoker

GOOD THINGS
subtle, sarcastic would be nice too... you know reading between the lines
common sense, practical
confidence (its ok, we all got our hangups)
can change car oil, open jars, fix things
dry sense of humor


okay i want to talk to someone who isn't a penis. so walktheline, it's interesting that similar religious views is a must when you're not very religious yourself. why is this? and what do you mean by 'similar'?

statix
January 2nd, 2007, 11:18 PM
exactly what i said originally. my point was that given this reality, women adjust their previously uncompromisable standards on a case-by-case basis. these lists by themselves mean nothing because they don't include all things that draw people to each other, and they don't rank all of these things in importance compared to everything else. they are, hence, deceptive.

yes they can be deecptive only if a woman is unsure about what she really wants. Then there is always that element of surpirse which people dont expect another person to manifest. The list is very broad in general which to me doesnt make it really deceptive. Yes if it was narrowed down to several different qualities, then i would think otherwise.

ORaNGe dAsY
January 2nd, 2007, 11:19 PM
Check times infinity. :D

bengoli_meg
January 2nd, 2007, 11:20 PM
well define smart..Im hoping its not someone who considers explaining newtons law of gravity a form of foreplay. If not then your list is suprisingly "down to earth" and i think a lot of men can fit in with ur wants

gawd. thank you.

that's the point....it's not that hard to find someone to be with, not all girls have this eleventy million item list of uncompromisables. if it was then we'd all die alone.

or well that was supposed to be the point. till all these jerky guys came and crapped all over it.

BigCrazyIndian
January 2nd, 2007, 11:21 PM
how come more girl's aren't replying?

because through all the lists and pomp, it's invariably clear that most women don't know what the fuck they want.

bengoli_meg
January 2nd, 2007, 11:21 PM
Come on lady , you are a bit too cocky here, i bet you are single and will remain for quiet a long time , seriously if you start going by lists and stuff you ll be surprised what kinda guys you are going to attract, relax a little ,, will ya??? don be surprised if you fall for somone completly different , thats why love is blind unless you wana put conditions on it

:rofl:

khanvict
January 2nd, 2007, 11:21 PM
wasn't this a post for females? not that many females have posted here...

which reminds me...

:wtf: am i doing here?

bengoli_meg
January 2nd, 2007, 11:23 PM
because through all the lists and pomp, it's invariably clear that most women don't know what the fuck they want.

I'll openly admit that i'm still learning what i want. and i've got like almost 6 years on the average forum girl. let's not be so serious, kay?

Leon 007
January 2nd, 2007, 11:23 PM
What if he has all those things, but has a vagina due to a genetic disorder?
lol :p

statix
January 2nd, 2007, 11:23 PM
Objectivity doesn't imply certainty.
It implies a 'most likely' model to objectify an idea.

For instance if you have a sample set of 1000 and you identify Paul Walker as your objective bachelor, you may still have a few anomaly cases which deny a date with him. But as long as it is a good measure and objectively better than other candidates, it is still 'measurable' per se.

For candidates that have traits, you can have a sample set to 'agree'/'disagree' whether the candidate possesses the trait.


considering the sample size is large enough, 1000 people is usually sufficient to justify the results. This i know, but my original point was how its statistically inaccurate to measure such data if one person is involved.

Walktheline
January 2nd, 2007, 11:26 PM
okay i want to talk to someone who isn't a penis. so walktheline, it's interesting that similar religious views is a must when you're not very religious yourself. why is this? and what do you mean by 'similar'?


I was purposely vague. It's kind of complicated. I'm more sure of what I do NOT believe versus what I DO believe, so I know I couldn't hang with a guy who is very confident about a faith that I don't believe in. I'd always feel like he was judging me or pitying me because I'm hellbound in his eyes.

bengoli_meg
January 2nd, 2007, 11:27 PM
i think these lists are deceptive because it's impossible to measure all of those things objectively when selecting a mate. for example, a guy can be completely desirable in all ways except one or two, when measured objectively, but women would still be willing to date him because they'd adjust their previously unmalleable requirements given his other desirable qualities.

honey, i know.

it doesn't mean we can't discuss the things we think we like and the things we think we're willing to compromise on. usually this type of thing says a lot about the person herself.

attraction isn't black and white. it doesn't have very many rules. but it's an interesting question to ask isn't it?

BigCrazyIndian
January 2nd, 2007, 11:28 PM
I'll openly admit that i'm still learning what i want. and i've got like almost 6 years on the average forum girl. let's not be so serious, kay?

kay, I should have probably added that the forum isn't really filled with what I'd call women, even though there are some striking similarities in the bat-shit crazy factor.

Echelon
January 2nd, 2007, 11:28 PM
I also disagree with the good hygeine statement, you know Charles Bukowski used to say:
"Show me a man who lives alone and has a perpetually clean kitchen, and eight times out of nine I'll show you a man with detestable spiritual qualities.
Show me a man who lives alone and has a perpetually dirty kitchen, and five times out of nine I'll show you an exceptional man"

Tis true, imo.

sameer
January 2nd, 2007, 11:29 PM
is there a reason that sense of style is not bolded. is that a subcategory.

and yeah so the last boyfriend you had, that im aware of, how many of these traits did he have.

alphaPAKI
January 2nd, 2007, 11:35 PM
just curious/bored...

ladies, what are the things men need to have in order for you to find them attractive versus the things you'd like them to have, but is compromisable? make two lists.

here's mine more or less:

Uncompromisable
Intelligence- Has to match my own level or go above it, but never be condescending about it.
Humour/Wit - I think this speaks for itself.
Cleanliness - Smells nice and clean. really, basic cleanliness.
Virtuous - Someone who is just good at heart. Again should match my own level of virtue, share my morality.

if a dude is missing any of the top four he has virtually no chance

Also Attractive
Confidence- but not to the point ofcockyness. arrogance is a huge turn off.
Artistic- doesn't necessarily mean he needs to know how to draw, any creative talent or interest is sexy. painters, writers, musicians, film, art, ect
Sense of style- dressing like a thug doesn't count as style
Romantic- This one is difficult. Ya'll don't need to be emasculating yourself, it's really the thoughtfulness of certain gestures that count. ie. flowers
Attentiveness- Making you feel like nothing else could possibly be more interesting at this very moment. Paying attention to your non-verbal cues.
Passionate-I don't mean horny...I mean having, compelled by, or ruled by emotion or strong feeling. Intensity! Apathetic guys are blah
Attractive looking - at least as good looking as myself, but made this list versus the other one because the standard is compromisable (added for The Dude)


uhhh there's prolly more, but w/e...this will do for the time being. I realise nobody has all the things in the second list, that's why it's only desirable and not completely necessary.



We all know what the one requirement is......:

DICK!!

bengoli_meg
January 2nd, 2007, 11:42 PM
I don't think you know what you want here. Confidence but not cocky? Are you f'ing joking. People who are confident are at least subconsciously cocky or are cocky inside their minds (they just sugar over things and pretend they're humble). I'd rather not play charade and pretend to be humble, when in my mind i'd be imagining making love to my own twin.

Anyways, girls always like cocky guys. Females are after all submissive creatures to an alpha male. They want to submit to his physique, his sexual prowess and his confidence.


there can be a distinction. It's one thing to be confident enough to make a move it's another to already think you've scored before you've said your line. honestly, i used to find boarderline cocky guys sexy. but now i just find it repulsive. i dunno why, i guess it has more to do with my personal experiences.


This speaks for itself, I have better style than all the females on these forums, including you.

you're so charming, echelon. :rolleyes:


Dawg, I know my gallantry. I am the quintessense of a gallant man. Not only that i know my poetry too. I can write better than seamusheaney (this is true), sheila. Besides, 'flowers' is not the way to capture a ladies heart, a single rose is much more poignant.
My name is italian, what can i say!

flowers was a simple to understand illustration. i could go into more detail but i'm not going to write 1000 word essay on this topic. it's pointless.


Actually, attentitiveness is a pre-req of Romanticism now that I think about it.

i agree with you. but its power is underestimated by some guys so it gets it's own mention. also, i agree that passion kind of falls in with romanticism.






and yet, i don't find you attractive. ain't it funny?

Echelon
January 2nd, 2007, 11:42 PM
I want to make bengoli_meg well aware i'm listening to:
Linda Ronstadt - Ooh Baby Baby

Felonius Monk
January 2nd, 2007, 11:43 PM
Uncompromisable

Will make sure I do not pass out in the wrong place
Will keep me from hitting on fat chicks when i'm drunk
Will not ask to change the channel. Ever.
Will not use my razor
Will not cockblock
Will not ask me what i'm thinking
Will eat all forms of meat
Will buy beer half the time
Will not be offended by the fact that I have had sex with his mom and mention it frequently
Literate



Bonus

Will buy beer more than half the time
Will make multiple hot female friends
Will not take the last slice of pizza
Will be willing to make stupid bets
Will not mention god other than to mock him
Will eventually marry a chick who can cook and doesnt mind houseguests

Echelon
January 2nd, 2007, 11:43 PM
and yet, i don't find you attractive. ain't it funny?Things which are expressed are less truer than those implied =p

Leon 007
January 2nd, 2007, 11:44 PM
You can never get a perfect person wether theyre good looking, rich, clever etc whatever, the most important thing is to love the person the way they are coz everyones different and everyone has flaws.

sameer
January 2nd, 2007, 11:47 PM
meg didnt put down religion. hmmm. i think thats a glaring omission.

bengoli_meg
January 2nd, 2007, 11:49 PM
how come more girl's aren't replying?

because the female-hating men and the over-analysers have taken over.

KhanNoonienSingh
January 2nd, 2007, 11:51 PM
We all know what the one requirement is......:

DICK!!if the original question said 'man you envision yourself with', then these lists would hold true. but if it was asked 'man you'd go home with from a [bar/club/anysocialevent]' then yeah. all the typical qualities go under that.

and most women wind up with the latter, not the former. the former are imaginary. so that's the criteria setting up most relationships...

hell, even the guys they envision or imagine... take old famous authors for instance. out of them, the ones most popular with women seem to have some kind of sick penis envy. half the shit they write when their characters interact is some kind of allegory for phallic obsession. the humanities is dangerous business if you're a guy.

Leon 007
January 2nd, 2007, 11:52 PM
There are some characteristics that you're going to be attracted to though. You don't just love a person out of nowhere. Sure there are flaws, but there are positives too.
it depends on the person you are and how willing and openminded you are to the other person, theres people out there that still find flaws in anything they make excuses. When you meet someone obviously you will get attracted to how they look then their personality etc but 3 months down the line that wont matter coz depending on what type of person you are the smallest things will make you wanna leave them, ive noticed this

bengoli_meg
January 2nd, 2007, 11:52 PM
Uncompromisable (not in any order)

1) Established career, possesses a college degree, or is at least aspiring to be something in their life. Someone with a lack of direction or somebody who is happy with working at McDonald's is not acceptable. This includes someone with a similar level of intelligence or higher
2) Liberal attitude/progressive-minded
3) Respects my parents. I don't want to hear any "Your mom is annoying" or "Why are you so close to your mom blah blah blah"
4) Good hygiene


Also Attractive (not in any order)
1) Physically attractive
2) Funny/humorous
3) Mild-tempered
4) Assertive/confident.


the parents one is hard. you prolly wouldn't find that out till you're already in a serious relationship with the dude.

sameer
January 2nd, 2007, 11:55 PM
because the female-hating men and the over-analysers have taken over.

whats my stereotype.

bengoli_meg
January 2nd, 2007, 11:57 PM
kay, I should have probably added that the forum isn't really filled with what I'd call women, even though there are some striking similarities in the bat-shit crazy factor.

yeah some of these chicks scare the crap out of me. it's probably why i only really have 5 female friends irl. the rest are all male.

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 12:00 AM
That stereotype is diminishing where I'm at. The girls are getting more ambitious and established, but the guys are slacking and just feed off of their parents' money without doing anything with their lives.

Plus, it still kind of irks me when Desi guys lack common knowledge, even when they are aspiring to be doctors and engineers. If I'm on a date and a some educated Indian guy says that "Punjabi is a religion" (it's happened to me before)......it just immediately makes them look stupid. :no:



That's not the case where I live. Some ABD guys have a different smell though compared to the ones from India. They either smell like dirty laundry or have that "sweaty dirty socks" smell. I don't know how to explain it. Giving them hints or colognes for their birthday doesn't work either.


where do you live? Cause it's the same where i am, in my community. All the girls have gone into really ambitious careers and a large majority of the men are failures. I have absolutely no idea why.

Leon 007
January 3rd, 2007, 12:01 AM
Yes...but if he does turn out to be that way later on...then I'm through with him. My ex was like that, and it's not a good feeling to date a guy or plan to marry someone that's like that.
what do you mean?

the_dark_drag0n
January 3rd, 2007, 12:01 AM
I don't think you can make lists of MUST HAVE, cause it's not like you'Re going shopping and looking for things to get, it's more like a gift and you learn to like it for what it is.

Haha if anyone got what that meant, kudos to you!

Must have: job. *cough*

Walktheline
January 3rd, 2007, 12:02 AM
I don't think you can make lists of MUST HAVE, cause it's not like you'Re going shopping and looking for things to get, it's more like a gift and you learn to like it for what it is.

Haha if anyone got what that meant, kudos to you!

Must have: job. *cough*


my mom and dad swear its like shopping for a car!

Leon 007
January 3rd, 2007, 12:03 AM
where do you live? Cause it's the same where i am, in my community. All the girls have gone into really ambitious careers and a large majority of the men are failures. I have absolutely no idea why.
a career doesnt determine wether a person is a failure or not, the qulaities of a persons character does, he could have a shit job but stil be the most humblest and decent man on the earth

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 12:03 AM
Uncompromisable

Will make sure I do not pass out in the wrong place
Will keep me from hitting on fat chicks when i'm drunk
Will not ask to change the channel. Ever.
Will not use my razor
Will not cockblock
Will not ask me what i'm thinking
Will eat all forms of meat
Will buy beer half the time
Will not be offended by the fact that I have had sex with his mom and mention it frequently
Literate



Bonus

Will buy beer more than half the time
Will make multiple hot female friends
Will not take the last slice of pizza
Will be willing to make stupid bets
Will not mention god other than to mock him
Will eventually marry a chick who can cook and doesnt mind houseguests


if you ever need a new best friend, just paper your local neighbourhood with this list. hold try outs too.

the_dark_drag0n
January 3rd, 2007, 12:06 AM
my mom and dad swear its like shopping for a car!LOL Do you get to test ride it?




Fuck, we need a ladies forum on RD.

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 12:08 AM
Things which are expressed are less truer than those implied =p

:no:

oh echelon, why do you put yourself in a position where you know i'm going to obliterate you? first of all you fail my madatory "virtuous" category simply because it's very specific to me and i'm pretty old school about my morals.

i listed the things i need versus the things i like because i'm interested in the distinction between the two categories (and if more women actually answered, why one thing made the manditory list versus the unmadatory one).

i said nothing about how fufilling one list or the other (or how much of them need to be fufilled) in order for me to find someone attractive simply because it's far more complicated than ticking items off a list. on top of all this there are things that are major turn offs for me. you are guilty of quite a few of them, my friend.

KhanNoonienSingh
January 3rd, 2007, 12:09 AM
where do you live? Cause it's the same where i am, in my community. All the girls have gone into really ambitious careers and a large majority of the men are failures. I have absolutely no idea why.
because western society has emasculated them to the point where they recede into their own 'shells'. it piles up after a while. the first generation or two of desi guys outlet themselves into various subcultures typical of males. after that, it will get bad. it'll become a 'generation of men raised by women'. they'll start to consumerize worse than women. i just got back from canada recently and i guess they started early there.

dysfunctional families, and they hate their dads. its not oedipal complex as inept scholars from within the Western world might tell you. well it is, but it has nothing to do with competing for the mother's love. cuz first of all, desi guys already get the adoration of their mothers and are pretty much spoiled to death. the desi population, imho, calls for a complete reevaluation of that idea. but that's unlikely to happen in an academic system where it's suicide to slow down, let alone shift the thing into reverse.

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 12:10 AM
meg didnt put down religion. hmmm. i think thats a glaring omission.

post 62.

KhanNoonienSingh
January 3rd, 2007, 12:11 AM
LoLLawrence.
lol @ guys who actually try to read that shit and get into it without their brains immediately doing a subconscious rejection. fags.

sameer
January 3rd, 2007, 12:12 AM
post 62.
oh come on a goodie tushie like you aint marrying no non muslim.

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 12:13 AM
whats my stereotype.

annoying admin.

sameer
January 3rd, 2007, 12:14 AM
annoying admin.
k, and ure just another female mod who made it to her position due to her looks. no merit was involved.

sameer
January 3rd, 2007, 12:14 AM
annoying admin.
you ignored my first question in this thread.

Walktheline
January 3rd, 2007, 12:15 AM
LOL Do you get to test ride it?




Fuck, we need a ladies forum on RD.



omg we do. I was thinking about it. THe ladies forum could be divided into a period forum -- modded by ... eh we won't go there.
makeup forum --- modded by desi shawrty
jvellery forum -- preciouspari in charge

ya think???

KhanNoonienSingh
January 3rd, 2007, 12:15 AM
I live in Chicago, but I live in the suburban area though. Maybe I'm meeting the wrong people. People tend to hang out with people that are similar to them.

Since my exes were failures, they also hung out with male friends that were lazy failures as well. Two of my close guy friends are also behind, and their friends are behind too. My ex's married older brother was unemployed, had a daughter but was just living off his dad's money. His wife was the one with a job and a graduate degree though.

Even my 28 year old brother hasn't gotten his bachelors yet, and I'm sure his friends are also behind like him.

People are amazed at how his sister is 4-5 years younger than him and is ahead. :dunno:i'm 24 and my sister's ahead of me on the degree track as well (she's halfway through med school and i'm applying to get in now). she just turned 21.

i switched majors a bunch of times and had no idea what i wanted to do. she knew pretty much from the get go.

it happens a lot here or to people who grew up here. it's spreading back home too, but not as bad.

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 12:15 AM
Yes...but if he does turn out to be that way later on...then I'm through with him. My ex was like that, and it's not a good feeling to date a guy or plan to marry someone that's like that.

yeah that's the thing, the only real way to know what you really live with and what you can't live with is experience. unfortunately.

Leon 007
January 3rd, 2007, 12:15 AM
You don't want to date or marry a girl that says, "your mom is a bitch!" or "I don't feel comfortable hanging around your mom. I don't want to come in the house to say hi to her", do you?
yeah needs to have respect fo the parents also

anorexorcist
January 3rd, 2007, 12:17 AM
lol at you posting this in the form of "ladies, what do you want" with the subtly thrown in "here's mine" in there. im on to your charade.

putting out smoke signals to any normal, good looking guys who might come by this wasteland, eh?

BigCrazyIndian
January 3rd, 2007, 12:17 AM
yeah some of these chicks scare the crap out of me. it's probably why i only really have 5 female friends irl. the rest are all male.

ok, this goes back to a conversation that bill and I had....basically, you're the type of girl we befriend, and it kind of sucks because a nice attribute of girl-friends is that they have other lady friends that we may "befriend" in other ways.

so, for the sake of your male friends, get some hot, slutty girl-friends, even if you're just pretending to be their friend, you'll be doing your guy friends a favor. you could possibly pimp these girls out to them and make a killing.

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 12:17 AM
my mom and dad swear its like shopping for a car!


LOL! yeah the biodata system is all about lists. :neutral:

Leon 007
January 3rd, 2007, 12:17 AM
i think women try to do better because they feel they have something to prove to men

the_dark_drag0n
January 3rd, 2007, 12:17 AM
omg we do. I was thinking about it. THe ladies forum could be divided into a period forum -- modded by ... eh we won't go there.
makeup forum --- modded by desi shawrty
jvellery forum -- preciouspari in charge

ya think???You forgot the "let's bitch about guys" forum, but maybe that's better in the Main Chat cause that way we get to bitch back and forth every week or so.

HIGH FIVE GURLIE! *insert gay hand gesture here*

jigga man23
January 3rd, 2007, 12:21 AM
just curious/bored...

ladies, what are the things men need to have in order for you to find them attractive versus the things you'd like them to have, but is compromisable? make two lists.

here's mine more or less:

Uncompromisable
Intelligence- Has to match my own level or go above it, but never be condescending about it.
Humour/Wit - I think this speaks for itself.
Cleanliness - Smells nice and clean. really, basic cleanliness.
Virtuous - Someone who is just good at heart. Again should match my own level of virtue, share my morality.

if a dude is missing any of the top four he has virtually no chance

Also Attractive
Confidence- but not to the point ofcockyness. arrogance is a huge turn off.
Artistic- doesn't necessarily mean he needs to know how to draw, any creative talent or interest is sexy. painters, writers, musicians, film, art, ect
Sense of style- dressing like a thug doesn't count as style
Romantic- This one is difficult. Ya'll don't need to be emasculating yourself, it's really the thoughtfulness of certain gestures that count. ie. flowers
Attentiveness- Making you feel like nothing else could possibly be more interesting at this very moment. Paying attention to your non-verbal cues.
Passionate-I don't mean horny...I mean having, compelled by, or ruled by emotion or strong feeling. Intensity! Apathetic guys are blah
Attractive looking - at least as good looking as myself, but made this list versus the other one because the standard is compromisable (added for The Dude)


uhhh there's prolly more, but w/e...this will do for the time being. I realise nobody has all the things in the second list, that's why it's only desirable and not completely necessary.

Wow big list, i'm sure there someone out there that might fit the criteria..

If not give me a ring haha J/K....

jigga man23
January 3rd, 2007, 12:23 AM
ok, this goes back to a conversation that bill and I had....basically, you're the type of girl we befriend, and it kind of sucks because a nice attribute of girl-friends is that they have other lady friends that we may "befriend" in other ways.

so, for the sake of your male friends, get some hot, slutty girl-friends, even if you're just pretending to be their friend, you'll be doing your guy friends a favor. you could possibly pimp these girls out to them and make a killing.

Haha I love this guy always with the wittiest comments..

Walktheline
January 3rd, 2007, 12:23 AM
You forgot the "let's bitch about guys" forum, but maybe that's better in the Main Chat cause that way we get to bitch back and forth every week or so.

HIGH FIVE GURLIE! *insert gay hand gesture here*


there's something more fobby about calling it the "ladies" forum rather than a women's forum. I LIKE IT.
I could learn how to do that blendy thing with eyeshadow
and master the art of backcombing. Plus and you and I both know that makeup out there caters mainly to white chicks. We could post all the latest discoveries without having to individually drop a hundred bucks at sephora to experiment! :hay:

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 12:23 AM
because western society has emasculated them to the point where they recede into their own 'shells'. it piles up after a while. the first generation or two of desi guys outlet themselves into various subcultures typical of males. after that, it will get bad. it'll become a 'generation of men raised by women'. they'll start to consumerize worse than women. i just got back from canada recently and i guess they started early there.

dysfunctional families, and they hate their dads. its not oedipal complex as inept scholars from within the Western world might tell you. well it is, but it has nothing to do with competing for the mother's love. cuz first of all, desi guys already get the adoration of their mothers and are pretty much spoiled to death. the desi population, imho, calls for a complete reevaluation of that idea. but that's unlikely to happen in an academic system where it's suicide to slow down, let alone shift the thing into reverse.

wow.

that's actually a very intriguing hypothesis. i think you're really onto something.

but the women are still being raised in the same dysfunctional families...what is it in the dynamic that inspires them to strive forward so much more?

Leon 007
January 3rd, 2007, 12:26 AM
Yes, that's what I meant. There are some traits of aunties and uncles that I don't like, but I still act respectful towards them when I see them. I'm liberal and Americanized in a lot of ways, but I don't like how non-Desis diss their in-laws so visciously.
one example is how majority of white people put their parents in a home thats the biggest insult a person can do and takes the piss out of the meaning of family. Yeah some old people are ill and need special attention fair enough they need 24/7 medical attention. But most white people yard their parents of in some stinky home just coz they 'wanna live their life'.
The way i see it parents look after you from the second you are born and they love and care for you unconditionally and when they are old and need attention and need your love more than ever to just put them in a home and 'get rid of em' takes the piss out of life

the_dark_drag0n
January 3rd, 2007, 12:26 AM
My ex was like that too. Switching majors all of the time. It happens in non-Desi families too. The daughters are more driven, while the guys aren't. :dunno:

I guess our parents have a point when it comes to finding a husband or boyfriend that's a good 5-7 years older than you. Guys my age don't seem to be on the same level.Because if we fuck up, they'll keep reminding us of how lame we are for switching in and out. We know that if we make it to something, they can't keep nagging as much.

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 12:26 AM
you ignored my first question in this thread.

because i don't like to discuss my private life on a public forum.

sameer
January 3rd, 2007, 12:27 AM
because i don't like to discuss my private life on a public forum.
then whats this thread.

anorexorcist
January 3rd, 2007, 12:28 AM
then whats this thread.

for once i have to agree with you...somewhat.

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 12:29 AM
lol at you posting this in the form of "ladies, what do you want" with the subtly thrown in "here's mine" in there. im on to your charade.

putting out smoke signals to any normal, good looking guys who might come by this wasteland, eh?

how u 'doin? :eyebrow:

the_dark_drag0n
January 3rd, 2007, 12:30 AM
there's something more fobby about calling it the "ladies" forum rather than a women's forum. I LIKE IT.
I could learn how to do that blendy thing with eyeshadow
and master the art of backcombing. Plus and you and I both know that makeup out there caters mainly to white chicks. We could post all the latest discoveries without having to individually drop a hundred bucks at sephora to experiment! :hay:LOL@make-up. Dude, you have no clue how much I could learn from that kinda forum. I can't even put lipstick on lmao. Like seriously, how the hell do you find a nice colour on brown chicks. We're not dark enough for the colours aimed at African Americans and we're too dark for the colours aimed at Caucasian women.

And you know why we can't call it a Women's forum anyway? Cause there aren't that many women on RD, it's mostly lil girlies who would love to call themselves ladies.

Echelon
January 3rd, 2007, 12:30 AM
Most of these requirements are just fuel for the fire.
The 'ignition' is totally different.

KhanNoonienSingh
January 3rd, 2007, 12:30 AM
My ex was like that too. Switching majors all of the time. It happens in non-Desi families too. The daughters are more driven, while the guys aren't. :dunno:

I guess our parents have a point when it comes to finding a husband or boyfriend that's a good 5-7 years older than you. Guys my age don't seem to be on the same level.the society here encourages them to grow up slowly, and the reverse for women.

there's plenty of guys that are still fine at our age tho. taking till 28 to do your bachelors is a bit much. especially in a lot of desi families (try the 1st generation crowd, a lot of the guys i knew were forced into 6 or 7-year medicine programs out of HS and they're not fobs).

the only women on my level seem to be 30+ year old divorced/widowed with kids. :think: or in high school.

but the women are still being raised in the same dysfunctional families...what is it in the dynamic that inspires them to strive forward so much more?you don't feel as uncomfortable when you're not allowed to break things. Fight Club ftw. embodied all of that.

also like i said, it forces women to grow up quickly. what is it, middle school girls hitting puberty now? the food sucks, the shit they're socialized with sucks. not to mention like 50% of women are victims of sexual assault. all of that fosters an atmosphere that requires girls to be 'women', sooner. capitalist sociology. girls have to grow up quicker, so they can be 'sold' as ideas to the target male demographic/market.

Leon 007
January 3rd, 2007, 12:32 AM
In my household, my parents nag my brother a lot as well. We're not the kind of family where the sons get all of the privilege and attention. I'm more spoiled than my brothers actually, and my parents were more lenient on me. I'm still more driven though, because it's my personal choice. I think my brother just doesn't give a fuck, and my ex also didn't give a fuck. They don't think about their future.
maybe coz the women are more 'mature' in general and they feel that they need to prove a point to their parents and to men in general that a woman doesnt need to depend on a man for support like the good old days?

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 12:33 AM
ok, this goes back to a conversation that bill and I had....basically, you're the type of girl we befriend, and it kind of sucks because a nice attribute of girl-friends is that they have other lady friends that we may "befriend" in other ways.

so, for the sake of your male friends, get some hot, slutty girl-friends, even if you're just pretending to be their friend, you'll be doing your guy friends a favor. you could possibly pimp these girls out to them and make a killing.

erm. when i say i have a lot of male friends, i mean i have a large circle of men i keep in touch with/hang out with versus women. The women i am friends with are very close to me, no guy holds that kind of position unless i'm dating him. it's kind of impossible for me to get that chummy with a dude without some kind of romance fking things up. besides, i wouldn't set up my guy friends with hoes, they deserve better.

Echelon
January 3rd, 2007, 12:34 AM
erm. when i say i have a lot of male friends, i mean i have a large circle of men i keep in touch with/hang out with versus women. The women i am friends with are very close to me, no guy holds that kind of position unless i'm dating him. it's kind of impossible for me to get that chummy with a dude without some kind of romance fking things up. besides, i wouldn't set up my guy friends with hoes, they deserve better.Engineering betas.

Walktheline
January 3rd, 2007, 12:34 AM
LOL@make-up. Dude, you have no clue how much I could learn from that kinda forum. I can't even put lipstick on lmao. Like seriously, how the hell do you find a nice colour on brown chicks. We're not dark enough for the colours aimed at African Americans and we're too dark for the colours aimed at Caucasian women.
And you know why we can't call it a Women's forum anyway? Cause there aren't that many women on RD, it's mostly lil girlies who would love to call themselves ladies.

truer words have not been typed. Who'd mod the period forum? What would it look like? does everyone just keep making threads called "I'm late"
"I'm early" "I got my period" "I got my first period" "Um... I haven't gotten my period and I've been feeling sick in the morning" "rate your period"
:think:

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 12:35 AM
then whats this thread.

read this thread and then get back to me.

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 12:36 AM
You forgot the "let's bitch about guys" forum, but maybe that's better in the Main Chat cause that way we get to bitch back and forth every week or so.

HIGH FIVE GURLIE! *insert gay hand gesture here*


actually i think we need a "let's bitch about women forum" a lot more. The Dude and Pachass Paisa would never leave.

KhanNoonienSingh
January 3rd, 2007, 12:38 AM
erm. when i say i have a lot of male friends, i mean i have a large circle of men i keep in touch with/hang out with versus women. The women i am friends with are very close to me, no guy holds that kind of position unless i'm dating him. it's kind of impossible for me to get that chummy with a dude without some kind of romance fking things up. besides, i wouldn't set up my guy friends with hoes, they deserve better.
you know, you completely left out that 'he has to love me' bit that Shweta had in hers.

that's the only thing that would filter out any guys cuz i know an insane amount of guys who fit all of those requirements handily. even by really 'competitive' standards (i.e, they could prove it on an IQ test, are fucking funny, and have hearts of gold... and shower daily).

Echelon
January 3rd, 2007, 12:39 AM
The reason why desi girls have such a 'manufactured' and robotic way of pursuing their careers ie) applying for a degree that has good job prospects, entering a corperate career as soon as possible.. are just mere manifestations of wanting to loosen' their liabilities of having to marry traditionally and have a male provide for them. The fear of marrying traditionally and/or the thought of a male providing for them is strangely accelerating their careers prospects.
They don't want to be the desi door mat per se.

Also, they're very idealistic.

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 12:40 AM
for once i have to agree with you...somewhat.

how does a list say anything about my private life?

Echelon
January 3rd, 2007, 12:40 AM
Re: skin colour comment, its more about how well the skin works with the features not necessarily how light/dark you are.
It's also based on how even the tone/surface of the skin is.
Not to mention how well it brings out more colour based features (eyes/lips).

Felonius Monk
January 3rd, 2007, 12:40 AM
actually i think we need a "let's bitch about women forum" a lot more. The Dude and Pachass Paisa would never leave.
Genius!

Now tell me who gave you the idea?

EverBlazinGyal
January 3rd, 2007, 12:40 AM
i've complied a list like this of my own many times, but i find it very difficult to adhere to it.

instincts = bad

list = good

anorexorcist
January 3rd, 2007, 12:41 AM
how does a list say anything about my private life?

i said "somewhat," because as this thread is a list of what you want in a guy, subconsciously you are implying that you are looking for a guy in your private life.

weak argument on my end? let's hear what you have to say...you might just be right.

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 12:41 AM
Most of these requirements are just fuel for the fire.
The 'ignition' is totally different.

the ignition is romantic chemistry. either it's there or it's not, it's immediately apparent to both parties.

i wish i could bottle that shit and sell it.

KhanNoonienSingh
January 3rd, 2007, 12:42 AM
i've complied a list like this of my own many times, but i find it very difficult to adhere to it.

instincts = bad

list = good
weenar

Leon 007
January 3rd, 2007, 12:44 AM
The reason why desi girls have such a 'manufactured' and robotic way of pursuing their careers ie) applying for a degree that has good job prospects, entering a corperate career as soon as possible.. are just mere manifestations of wanting to loosen' their liabilities of having to marry traditionally and have a male provide for them. The fear of marrying traditionally and/or the thought of a male providing for them is strangely accelerating their careers prospects.
They don't want to be the desi door mat per se.

Also, they're very idealistic.
indeed they have more motivation to escape the reality as it seems of a womans place in desi culture

Walktheline
January 3rd, 2007, 12:44 AM
The reason why desi girls have such a 'manufactured' and robotic way of pursuing their careers ie) applying for a degree that has good job prospects, entering a corperate career as soon as possible.. are just mere manifestations of wanting to loosen' their liabilities of having to marry traditionally and have a male provide for them. The fear of marrying traditionally and/or the thought of a male providing for them is strangely accelerating their careers prospects.
They don't want to be the desi door mat per se.

Also, they're very idealistic.


and we want 500 dollar haircuts in NYC and vacays to the south of france. the south of france in the movies.. that seems to be the in place to go. Anyway, why do desi guys have a manufactured and robotic way of pursuing their careers?

Felonius Monk
January 3rd, 2007, 12:45 AM
i've complied a list like this of my own many times, but i find it very difficult to adhere to it.

instincts = bad

list = good
All wrong.

sameer
January 3rd, 2007, 12:45 AM
read this thread and then get back to me.

theres that coldness i was talking about

KhanNoonienSingh
January 3rd, 2007, 12:45 AM
the ignition is romantic chemistry. either it's there or it's not, it's immediately apparent to both parties.

i wish i could bottle that shit and sell it.
you can bottle it. it's hormones.

there's nothing really to it. look hot if you're a girl, and have the proper body language (and look hot) if you're a guy. so many guys have even broken this shit down into some really obscure things about the way women work. they can be manipulated at will in the right atmosphere (i.e, as soon as they let down their guard which they do as soon as they look at any guy as a 'potential', meaning in any social gathering where they're likely to do that in the right hormonal context depending on age/time of month/etc.).

a guy could meet you and you'd feel nothing. then turn on all the right things and meet you again in a week and you'd have all that chemistry going.

Echelon
January 3rd, 2007, 12:45 AM
the ignition is romantic chemistry. either it's there or it's not, it's immediately apparent to both parties.

i wish i could bottle that shit and sell it.
No, I'm talking about even before that. A woman has to be submissive to a mans sexual allure, well enough to the point where they'd consider him to be a reasonable 'provider'. They subconsciously think about genetics and whether this particular candidate will foster good children.

It's all how vital a man appears. Not necessarily how pretty he is, but how vital.

This 'chemistry' is just a latent feeling that is waiting to be triggered off by a man who's charm/good looks are enough to make the irrational appear rational and the unreasonable appear very reasonable.

the_dark_drag0n
January 3rd, 2007, 12:47 AM
actually i think we need a "let's bitch about women forum" a lot more. The Dude and Pachass Paisa would never leave.Oh snap!

And thanks a bunch Kama. Had never heard of her before.

Leon 007
January 3rd, 2007, 12:48 AM
and we want 500 dollar haircuts in NYC and vacays to the south of france. the south of france in the movies.. that seems to be the in place to go. Anyway, why do desi guys have a manufactured and robotic way of pursuing their careers?
lol your question doesnt make sense

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 12:49 AM
also like i said, it forces women to grow up quickly. what is it, middle school girls hitting puberty now? the food sucks, the shit they're socialized with sucks. not to mention like 50% of women are victims of sexual assault. all of that fosters an atmosphere that requires girls to be 'women', sooner. capitalist sociology. girls have to grow up quicker, so they can be 'sold' as ideas to the target male demographic/market.

hmm that seems like it could go for any culture though. i thought maybe it was something desi specific.

Traditional desi ideals place an emphasis on girls learning to be wives and not trying to establish careers, so the result of having so many ambitous desi women seems so counter-intuitive to me.

Echelon
January 3rd, 2007, 12:50 AM
Also, they probably want to be prepared for a divorce as well. I do remember my mom telling me constantly when I was young that it's good for women to be educated, so they can support themselves if their husband passes away or they get divorced.

One of the reasons why some aunties don't divorce is because they can't support themselves on their own. It's quite the trend over here for a Desi uncle to be a doctor or engineer, while his wife works at Wal-Mart or at the bank.
The following overseas is slightly off topic:

You know my major business partner is a wealthy wealthy man. I think he makes close to 1.25 million euros p.a.
Anyways he is in his mid 30s and livin' the life. Suddenly he got hitched by some italian broad whilst I was working for him. They went to the 7 star hotel in Dubai, then moved permanently to the Greek Islands.

He recalls, the moment he got there, he was going to get a divorce.
2 months later, it was in the hands of the solicitors.

The thing is, while he was living here, he purchased nothing, he rented everything (I'd see his then fiancee driving a dodgy 93' ford hatchback). He had no assets just liquid in overseas bank accounts.

He married in Australia.
So come divorce time when they split the assets, she got absolutely nothing.

Some people are just too smart.

BigCrazyIndian
January 3rd, 2007, 12:50 AM
erm. when i say i have a lot of male friends, i mean i have a large circle of men i keep in touch with/hang out with versus women. The women i am friends with are very close to me, no guy holds that kind of position unless i'm dating him. it's kind of impossible for me to get that chummy with a dude without some kind of romance fking things up. besides, i wouldn't set up my guy friends with hoes, they deserve better.

oh. well then, there goes your pimping millions. Damn your virutousness.

while we're at it, damn your intelligence, humour/wit, and cleanliness too.

Echelon
January 3rd, 2007, 12:50 AM
What the fuck,"The following overseas".. I mean the "following story"

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 12:50 AM
theres that coldness i was talking about

awwww.

:hug:

the_dark_drag0n
January 3rd, 2007, 12:51 AM
oh. well then, there goes your pimping millions. Damn your virutousness.

while we're at it, damn your intelligence, humour/wit, and cleanliness too.She's an engineer. She can't be all that clean. :shock:

KhanNoonienSingh
January 3rd, 2007, 12:51 AM
hmm that seems like it could go for any culture though. i thought maybe it was something desi specific.

Traditional desi ideals place an emphasis on girls learning to be wives and not trying to establish careers, so the result of having so many ambitous desi women seems so counter-intuitive to me.all the rules of western culture apply to people raised here.

Leon 007
January 3rd, 2007, 12:52 AM
The following overseas is slightly off topic:

You know my major business partner is a wealthy wealthy man. I think he makes close to 1.25 million euros p.a.
Anyways he is in his mid 30s and livin' the life. Suddenly he got hitched by some italian broad whilst I was working for him. They went to the 7 star hotel in Dubai, then moved permanently to the Greek Islands.

He recalls, the moment he got there, he was going to get a divorce.
2 months later, it was in the hands of the solicitors.

The thing is, while he was living here, he purchased nothing, he rented everything (I'd see his then fiancee driving a dodgy 93' ford hatchback). He had no assets just liquid in overseas bank accounts.

He married in Australia.
So come divorce time when they split the assets, she got absolutely nothing.

Some people are just too smart.
when you have money like that you do have to be very careful, all of a sudden everyone wants to be your friend take that money away they wont even piss on you if you were on fire

but i agree wise guy

Echelon
January 3rd, 2007, 12:54 AM
I think its also fair to say that men are fairly intimidated by a career goalin' sheila. Not just because they think she's smarter than them, but more so related to how they have to compromise their role as a male and a provider in order to foster the relationship.
I think girls are realising that by the time they're in their late 20s, that by forgoing the traditional route of adopting a female role, they've scared off their game.

jigga man23
January 3rd, 2007, 12:54 AM
She's an engineer. She can't be all that clean. :shock:


Ohh Boy, I guess she likes to use her head alot...

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 12:55 AM
you know, you completely left out that 'he has to love me' bit that Shweta had in hers.

that's the only thing that would filter out any guys cuz i know an insane amount of guys who fit all of those requirements handily. even by really 'competitive' standards (i.e, they could prove it on an IQ test, are fucking funny, and have hearts of gold... and shower daily).

i guess it seemed so intrinsic to me that i didn't even think to include it.

really, there's no such thing as lists cause so many times i've violated the very one i made in the first post.

Leon 007
January 3rd, 2007, 12:59 AM
This is true. And if you're a hottie with an education, that scares the Desi males off even more. :no:
why?

Echelon
January 3rd, 2007, 01:00 AM
you can bottle it. it's hormones.

there's nothing really to it. look hot if you're a girl, and have the proper body language (and look hot) if you're a guy. so many guys have even broken this shit down into some really obscure things about the way women work. they can be manipulated at will in the right atmosphere (i.e, as soon as they let down their guard which they do as soon as they look at any guy as a 'potential', meaning in any social gathering where they're likely to do that in the right hormonal context depending on age/time of month/etc.).

a guy could meet you and you'd feel nothing. then turn on all the right things and meet you again in a week and you'd have all that chemistry going.Yeah, I could fulfill just about all those elements, but I could never love bengoli_meg, because in my mind I'd realise how genetically inferior she is to me and how defomed my children will become in procreation.

I'd all ways be reminded on a subconscious level, that my eugenes which have been carefully crafted over many generations has equated to a 5'4 desi male who possesses his fathers looks but his mothers height.
I don't want no Lil Bow Wow for a son, fuck!

I've just realised I can only truly love someone who rounds me off both physically, mentally and emotionally. Because my subconscious thoughts will soon override my heart.

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 01:00 AM
The reason why desi girls have such a 'manufactured' and robotic way of pursuing their careers ie) applying for a degree that has good job prospects, entering a corperate career as soon as possible.. are just mere manifestations of wanting to loosen' their liabilities of having to marry traditionally and have a male provide for them. The fear of marrying traditionally and/or the thought of a male providing for them is strangely accelerating their careers prospects.
They don't want to be the desi door mat per se.

Also, they're very idealistic.

that seems like the obvious answer, but if i look at my own case i really can't pin point anything within myself that says i have to do this to escape the desi condition. i can't even fathom thinking that subconciously.

dr_sinister1001
January 3rd, 2007, 01:01 AM
According to Malcolm Gladwell and I'm inclinded to agree, there is no set criteria to what we want in a mate, attraction is implicit.

:idea:

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 01:01 AM
Re: skin colour comment, its more about how well the skin works with the features not necessarily how light/dark you are.
It's also based on how even the tone/surface of the skin is.
Not to mention how well it brings out more colour based features (eyes/lips).

:gay:

sameer
January 3rd, 2007, 01:01 AM
awwww.

:hug:

:dance3: :dance3:

Echelon
January 3rd, 2007, 01:02 AM
This is true. And if you're a hottie with an education, that scares the Desi males off even more. :no:I'm not really scared off by the career type. As long as they aren't robotic, cold, pessimistic, too old, too idealistic and lack any sense of the word 'human' - I'd certainly be more than interested.

But granted, those above preconditions would wipe out just about all of the independant desi female folk am i rite.

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 01:03 AM
i said "somewhat," because as this thread is a list of what you want in a guy, subconsciously you are implying that you are looking for a guy in your private life.

weak argument on my end? let's hear what you have to say...you might just be right.

i'm not single.

theory -------> crash and burn.

Echelon
January 3rd, 2007, 01:03 AM
that seems like the obvious answer, but if i look at my own case i really can't pin point anything within myself that says i have to do this to escape the desi condition. i can't even fathom thinking that subconciously.Engineering... hmm...
Latent lesbiansm.

KhanNoonienSingh
January 3rd, 2007, 01:03 AM
I think its also fair to say that men are fairly intimidated by a career goalin' sheila. Not just because they think she's smarter than them, but more so related to how they have to compromise their role as a male and a provider in order to foster the relationship.
I think girls are realising that by the time they're in their late 20s, that by forgoing the traditional route of adopting a female role, they've scared off their game.that might be more a fault of society. literally, the laws and government that foster the predominant culture.

cuz a woman's a woman no matter what life she's hiding behind. they all make the same noises in bed.
i guess it seemed so intrinsic to me that i didn't even think to include it.

really, there's no such thing as lists cause so many times i've violated the very one i made in the first post.
i'm done here. :salut:

KhanNoonienSingh
January 3rd, 2007, 01:05 AM
This is true. And if you're a hottie with an education, that scares the Desi males off even more. :no:not everyone's a relationship capitalist and wants to compete with the army of guys the 'hotties' always drag in tow. of course that's like a kind of 'list making' by itself.

Felonius Monk
January 3rd, 2007, 01:06 AM
According to Malcolm Gladwell and I'm inclinded to agree, there is no set criteria to what we want in a mate, attraction is implicit.

:idea:
Thats the guy who wrote blink?

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 01:07 AM
you can bottle it. it's hormones.

there's nothing really to it. look hot if you're a girl, and have the proper body language (and look hot) if you're a guy. so many guys have even broken this shit down into some really obscure things about the way women work. they can be manipulated at will in the right atmosphere (i.e, as soon as they let down their guard which they do as soon as they look at any guy as a 'potential', meaning in any social gathering where they're likely to do that in the right hormonal context depending on age/time of month/etc.).

a guy could meet you and you'd feel nothing. then turn on all the right things and meet you again in a week and you'd have all that chemistry going.

this is truly horrifying. how dare you turn this into a science!!

Leon 007
January 3rd, 2007, 01:08 AM
lol it doesn't go for everybody, but I've seen in it happen in real life with some Desi guys. The combination of beauty and brains is intimidating. It can happen to non-Desi guys as well. Girls also get intimidated by guys that are better-looking than them.
lol you can never win my motto is go with the flow and dont think too much

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 01:09 AM
Yeah, I could fulfill just about all those elements, but I could never love bengoli_meg, because in my mind I'd realise how genetically inferior she is to me and how defomed my children will become in procreation.

I'd all ways be reminded on a subconscious level, that my eugenes which have been carefully crafted over many generations has equated to a 5'4 desi male who possesses his fathers looks but his mothers height.
I don't want no Lil Bow Wow for a son, fuck!

I've just realised I can only truly love someone who rounds me off both physically, mentally and emotionally. Because my subconscious thoughts will soon override my heart.

good luck to you.

dr_sinister1001
January 3rd, 2007, 01:10 AM
Thats the guy who wrote blink?yah same guy.

:idea:

Felonius Monk
January 3rd, 2007, 01:11 AM
yah same guy.

:idea:
Interesting. Some parallels in the two ideas.

dr_sinister1001
January 3rd, 2007, 01:13 AM
Interesting. Some parallels in the two ideas.His ideas about attraction are in the book.

:idea:

Echelon
January 3rd, 2007, 01:13 AM
How old are you?I'm 21, how old did you think I was?

KhanNoonienSingh
January 3rd, 2007, 01:14 AM
this is truly horrifying. how dare you turn this into a science!!it's all thrown out the window if there's something 'really' there tho (sappy 'connection' stuff or whatever girls call it). guys who can remain the most genuinely indifferent have the most success at that.

i think that might be a more horrifying thought. you're going to weed out the guys who fail sooner (i.e, can't remain indifferent enough to you in order to do their 'game' crap) on instinct and go for the guys who have increasingly less 'feelings'/emotions or less potential for emotion for you.

Echelon
January 3rd, 2007, 01:17 AM
it's all thrown out the window if there's something 'really' there tho (sappy 'connection' stuff or whatever girls call it). guys who can remain the most genuinely indifferent have the most success at that.

i think that might be a more horrifying thought. you're going to weed out the guys who fail sooner (i.e, can't remain indifferent enough to you in order to do their 'game' crap) on instinct and go for the guys who have increasingly less 'feelings'/emotions or potential for emotion for you.
The funny thing is, she was trying to objectify it by initially starting the thread. Her predispositions against science are evident, because she can only draw cold connotations from the word itself. I think she fails to realise the power of things resonating on an objective level.

jigga man23
January 3rd, 2007, 01:18 AM
I assumed you were 20, since that's what profile said. Wow..I really feel old now.

Don't feel bad I'm 24 and still laughing at you fools...

nayeemx33
January 3rd, 2007, 01:21 AM
Has to be a doctor.



Edit: Has to be a surgeon.

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 01:21 AM
it's all thrown out the window if there's something 'really' there tho (sappy 'connection' stuff or whatever girls call it). guys who can remain the most genuinely indifferent have the most success at that.

i think that might be a more horrifying thought. you're going to weed out the guys who fail sooner (i.e, can't remain indifferent enough to you in order to do their 'game' crap) on instinct and go for the guys who have increasingly less 'feelings'/emotions or less potential for emotion for you.

i was making a joke. oh curse my unfunnyness!

jigga man23
January 3rd, 2007, 01:21 AM
[QUOTE=Echelon]The funny thing is, she was trying to objectify it by initially starting the thread. Her predispositions against science are evident, because she can only draw cold connotations from the word itself. I think she fails to realise the power of things resonating on an objective level.[/QUOT


You two make good couples...

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 01:21 AM
I just turned 24 today, hun. Or yesterday if it's past 12 am in your neck of the woods.

happy birthday :)

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 01:22 AM
You two make good couples...


shut up.

jigga man23
January 3rd, 2007, 01:24 AM
I just turned 24 today, hun. Or yesterday if it's past 12 am in your neck of the woods.

Nah been 24 for few months now...

But nether the less welcome to the 24 club... :D

Felonius Monk
January 3rd, 2007, 01:24 AM
His ideas about attraction are in the book.

:idea:
Heh. Makes sense I suppose. I only had the basic thesis of the book explained to me. Havent read it myself.

jigga man23
January 3rd, 2007, 01:26 AM
shut up.


I was referring to the other two posters, but I will be a gentleman and respect your wish...

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 01:27 AM
I was referring to the other two posters, but I will be a gentleman and respect your wish...

then why would you quote him when he's talking about me?

clarity.

KhanNoonienSingh
January 3rd, 2007, 01:27 AM
i was making a joke. oh curse my unfunnyness!i know. i was trying to steer it back. this is serious business. :no: i'm trying to pull the foundations out from underneath all of western civilization in my typical subversive attempts at islamic propaganda.

jigga man23
January 3rd, 2007, 01:28 AM
Now what though? We're already past the 21 stage of "I can drink legally now." All what my parents keep saying is that I really need to find a boy to settle down with before I hit the big 28.

I have this year as my grace period, after this no more free man...

I don't know something with desi people and getting their kids married off by the ripe age of 25...

jigga man23
January 3rd, 2007, 01:30 AM
then why would you quote him when he's talking about me?

clarity.

It was my mistake, now please don't Ban me...

laal mia
January 3rd, 2007, 01:30 AM
aiight chicks who wants "laal mia"?....I am young,desi, and good looking.... :cheers:

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 01:30 AM
i can't believe i made this thread to specifically target women and i still failed to talk to them.

laters.

jigga man23
January 3rd, 2007, 01:31 AM
Who are you talking about?


Khan and Echelon....

In a joking way ofcourse..

Echelon
January 3rd, 2007, 01:33 AM
then why would you quote him when he's talking about me?

clarity.Babe, I actually read it the way he wished to express it.
I think you're confused because you're constantly you're thinking of an ideal exclusive universe where you and I are alone.
You're currently dating some beta engineering guy who's only become more than just acquainted with you because you're lacking on emotional comfort levels. His feelings for you are strong, but you're no where near on a mutal level as he'd wish you'd be. You're only using him to gratify the void i've left in your heart.

You've only made this thread so i'd respond and help you realise what you're missing out on ... and whether you should compromise an impossibility of meeting a man like me over having the availability of dating a engineering beta male. You're trying to realise my full worth, but you're only putting away such feelings for me as mere fantasy.

Babe, why pretend, lets not play games, lets not shower ourselves with lies. Submit to my prowess, my allure, my incandescent smile, sheila.

laal mia
January 3rd, 2007, 01:33 AM
umm hellllllllllllllllloooo, right here. chicks?... :wavey:

anorexorcist
January 3rd, 2007, 01:33 AM
i'm not single.

theory -------> crash and burn.

weak argument indeed from my end.

good job though, finding a guy and all that.

jigga man23
January 3rd, 2007, 01:34 AM
Haha they don't expect me to get married that quickly. They just mean to find a boyfriend to get serious with, so we can plan on getting married within a few years after we graduate. :D


Well I'm a Professional so I really don't have a choice or excuses pick your choose...

jigga man23
January 3rd, 2007, 01:36 AM
Babe, I actually read it the way he wished to express it.
I think you're confused because you're constantly you're thinking of an ideal exclusive universe where you and I are alone.
You're currently dating some beta engineering guy who's only become more than just acquainted with you because you're lacking on emotional comfort levels. His feelings for you are strong, but you're no where near on a mutal level as he'd wish you'd be. You're only using him to gratify the void i've left in your heart.

You've only made this thread so i'd respond and help you realise what you're missing out on ... and whether you should compromise an impossibility of meeting a man like me over having the availability of dating a engineering beta male. You're trying to realise my full worth, but you're only putting away such feelings for me as mere fantasy.

Babe, why pretend, lets not play games, lets not shower ourselves with lies. Submit to my prowess, my allure, my incandescent smile, sheila.

LMAO....

laal mia
January 3rd, 2007, 01:37 AM
You're starting to sound desperate. That's a turn-off. No offense, but just being honest.

ummm ok.... :ashamed:

SillyKitty
January 3rd, 2007, 01:40 AM
ok.. what i find attractive in a guy is his.. quiet strength.
Penetrating gaze.. seriousness about life.. Love.. but also has the ability to have fun

and the most important of all..
we both have to feel the
CHEMISTRY between us..


like u know there are some guys.. who MIGHT seem to be the MOST perfect (as u have described in ur list) of all

but then u just fee like something is missing...

and that something is Chemistry..

dr.cool
January 3rd, 2007, 01:41 AM
ok.. what i find attractive in a guy is his.. quiet strength.
Penetrating gaze.. seriousness about life.. Love.. but also has the ability to have fun

and the most important of all..
we both have to feel the
CHEMISTRY between us..


like u know there are some guys.. who MIGHT seem to be the MOST perfect (as u have described in ur list) of all

but then u just fee like something is missing...

and that something is Chemistry..
okkkkkkkkkkkkkkk jenny jones

SillyKitty
January 3rd, 2007, 01:42 AM
okkkkkkkkkkkkkkk jenny jones
:lol: what?

jigga man23
January 3rd, 2007, 01:46 AM
Was there any accidental grammatical errors in here? I don't get the part after "I'm a professional." :ashamed:

Ahahaha I mean I work thus don't have any excuse...

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 01:51 AM
Babe, I actually read it the way he wished to express it.
I think you're confused because you're constantly you're thinking of an ideal exclusive universe where you and I are alone.
You're currently dating some beta engineering guy who's only become more than just acquainted with you because you're lacking on emotional comfort levels. His feelings for you are strong, but you're no where near on a mutal level as he'd wish you'd be. You're only using him to gratify the void i've left in your heart.

You've only made this thread so i'd respond and help you realise what you're missing out on ... and whether you should compromise an impossibility of meeting a man like me over having the availability of dating a engineering beta male. You're trying to realise my full worth, but you're only putting away such feelings for me as mere fantasy.

Babe, why pretend, lets not play games, lets not shower ourselves with lies. Submit to my prowess, my allure, my incandescent smile, sheila.


i knew you'd pull some freudian slip bs on me. damn you, jiggaman :mad:

yeah wow i'm so clever...i made this thread specifically to talk to women on the forum because i wanted to see how they'd respond to the task of making two lists, but REALLY it was a thread for you echelon. A carefully constructed ploy to get you in here so you could prove to me that you're everything that i ever wanted, but can never have. and you're even more clever for having figured it all out. bravo.

http://wiki.coolmon.org/files/cookie.jpg

that last line makes you sound like the devil.

Kyleoberoi
January 3rd, 2007, 01:51 AM
I got all dem qualities u looking in yo man :eyebrow:

nayeemx33
January 3rd, 2007, 01:52 AM
Are you becoming a doctor?

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 01:53 AM
ok.. what i find attractive in a guy is his.. quiet strength.
Penetrating gaze.. seriousness about life.. Love.. but also has the ability to have fun

and the most important of all..
we both have to feel the
CHEMISTRY between us..


like u know there are some guys.. who MIGHT seem to be the MOST perfect (as u have described in ur list) of all

but then u just fee like something is missing...

and that something is Chemistry..


kuch kuch hota hai....

Echelon
January 3rd, 2007, 01:53 AM
All these days I've been writin' poetry and thinking of bengoli_meg.
Here i'll post one i've written for you ( I swear I wrote it).

jigga man23
January 3rd, 2007, 01:55 AM
i knew you'd pull some freudian slip bs on me. damn you, jiggaman :mad:

yeah wow i'm so clever...i made this thread specifically to talk to women on the forum because i wanted to see how they'd respond to the task of making two lists, but REALLY it was a thread for you echelon. A carefully constructed ploy to get you in here so you could prove to me that you're everything that i ever wanted, but can never have. and you're even more clever for having figured it all out. bravo.

http://wiki.coolmon.org/files/cookie.jpg

that last line makes you sound like the devil.

I had no part in this.... :neutral:

Echelon
January 3rd, 2007, 01:56 AM
To bengoli meg, my sweat heart.

cascading waters - undulating with time
torrent darkness cold but sublime

madness in chaos, unable to bind



together forever, our hearts intertwine

lighting a speckle amongst the darkness of our view

charming its mood with your deep centre moves

soften its edges with your harmonious flute

moving our fingers we become in tune



slowly and slowly one speckle turns two

slowly and slowly becoming more than a few



twinkle your toes to jumpstart your heart

making our music, our smooth mellow art



torrent waters no longer cold but sublime

replicating your reflection, your incandescent smile



closer and closer your warmth becomes true

closer and closer the light seeps through

closer and closer it burns new wounds



tainting our wings – we’ve gone too astray

tipping the velvet, illusive and vain

illusory perfection, harmonious gain

nayeemx33
January 3rd, 2007, 01:58 AM
You are talking to?

:ugh2:
Not to you.
Bengoli Meg :love:

SillyKitty
January 3rd, 2007, 01:58 AM
kuch kuch hota hai....
yea.. :sarb:

well yea.. u gotta feel that "kuch kuch hota hai"




was it in the movie or something?

i havent seen it.

Kyleoberoi
January 3rd, 2007, 01:59 AM
Typing grammatically correct and not using ebonics is a turn-on too. ;)
:neutral: :neutral: :neutral: :neutral:
:neutral: :neutral: :neutral: :neutral:
:neutral: :neutral: :neutral: :neutral:
:neutral: :neutral: :neutral: :neutral:
:neutral: :neutral: :neutral: :neutral:


I thot all dat matterz to a desi gurl is lookz. :neutral:

jigga man23
January 3rd, 2007, 02:00 AM
To bengoli meg, my sweat heart.

cascading waters - undulating with time
torrent darkness cold but sublime

madness in chaos, unable to bind



together forever, our hearts intertwine

lighting a speckle amongst the darkness of our view

charming its mood with your deep centre moves

soften its edges with your harmonious flute

moving our fingers we become in tune



slowly and slowly one speckle turns two

slowly and slowly becoming more than a few



twinkle your toes to jumpstart your heart

making our music, our smooth mellow art



torrent waters no longer cold but sublime

replicating your reflection, your incandescent smile



closer and closer your warmth becomes true

closer and closer the light seeps through

closer and closer it burns new wounds



tainting our wings – we’ve gone too astray

tipping the velvet, illusive and vain

illusory perfection, harmonious gain

Now where the hell did you copy and paste this shit from?

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 02:00 AM
in all seriousness....


how does one "twinkle their toes"?

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 02:02 AM
Now where the hell did you copy and paste this shit from?

i'm his "sweat heart"

isn't it romantic?

Kyleoberoi
January 3rd, 2007, 02:05 AM
Good grammar is hot.
wat da heck r u on bout mami? U defo sume downtown chick. I aint one ov dem frickin gentlemen whoze gunna lick ur ass. :)

jigga man23
January 3rd, 2007, 02:06 AM
i'm his "sweat heart"

isn't it romantic?

Very...

Ore neya turr abba arr amma ke porichoy kore deesh...

laal mia
January 3rd, 2007, 02:07 AM
any chick looking for a man?... :waveyN:

laal mia
January 3rd, 2007, 02:08 AM
Very...

Ore neya turr abba arr amma ke porichoy kore deesh...

hahaha bengoli meg....bangla parey na.... :neutral:

jigga man23
January 3rd, 2007, 02:09 AM
any chick looking for a man?... :waveyN:

Put your bio data up on Amibangla.com... :p

jigga man23
January 3rd, 2007, 02:10 AM
hahaha bengoli meg....bangla parey na.... :neutral:

Shame...

I though I was bad..

bengoli_meg
January 3rd, 2007, 02:11 AM
Very...

Ore neya turr abba arr amma ke porichoy kore deesh...

yeah your bangla is a little too koteen for me.


echelon- poetry is empty without emotion. i wonder who you really wrote that for.

jigga man23
January 3rd, 2007, 02:14 AM
yeah your bangla is a little too koteen for me.


echelon- poetry is empty without emotion. i wonder who you really wrote that for.


Damm Meg you gotta brush up on your bangla mya...

laal mia
January 3rd, 2007, 02:15 AM
yeah your bangla is a little too koteen for me.


echelon- poetry is empty without emotion. i wonder who you really wrote that for.

akk thappor diye, bangla shikhieh dibo....thokhon fur fur korey bangla bolba..... :p

nayeemx33
January 3rd, 2007, 02:15 AM
Damm Meg you gotta brush up on your bangla mya...

:werd: