Eid visit turned into hook up event

[mp3]

So I went to someones house for a short eid visit as you do with my parents. All of a sudden it turned into a auntir ji hook you up with my daughter event. I know this girl for sometime and she is nice but ther family dont know about her past. Or tthey do and are playing it clever.

I felt sorry for the girl as she looked broken. Later she spoke to me and apologised and said i know you will not be interested etc because I had a boyfriend but I have changed. This girl is educated use to be quite confident and now is willing to marry any guy that will take her and do as he says.

She use to go out with this rudeboy wannabe who amounted to nothing and she says that she regretted it and now wishes that when she went to uni she had looked for a guy who was more suitable for her future. I dont think desi girls think about the long term.

Anyway to cut it short this girl has been around the block and now is trying to con some fool into getting with her as I know if he doesnt know about her she wont tell. But I am unsure if her family know or not cos if they do, they got no morals.

My mum is like she is a nice girl, what more do you want but I didnt want to expose her antics.

[KingDiamond]

I believe a famous man once said..

you cant turn a ho into a housewife!

[BlackCadillacs]

:rofl: :rofl: Brown people

[mp3]

I believe a famous man once said..

you cant turn a ho into a housewife!


Some poor guy is going to be in for a shock

[bad_cheque]

So I went to someones house for a short eid visit as you do with my parents. All of a sudden it turned into a auntir ji hook you up with my daughter event. I know this girl for sometime and she is nice but ther family dont know about her past. Or tthey do and are playing it clever.

I felt sorry for the girl as she looked broken. Later she spoke to me and apologised and said i know you will not be interested etc because I had a boyfriend but I have changed. This girl is educated use to be quite confident and now is willing to marry any guy that will take her and do as he says.

She use to go out with this rudeboy wannabe who amounted to nothing and she says that she regretted it and now wishes that when she went to uni she had looked for a guy who was more suitable for her future. I dont think desi girls think about the long term.

Anyway to cut it short this girl has been around the block and now is trying to con some fool into getting with her as I know if he doesnt know about her she wont tell. But I am unsure if her family know or not cos if they do, they got no morals.

My mum is like she is a nice girl, what more do you want but I didnt want to expose her antics.
Girls in general don't.

[fr00ti]

lol.. by hook up event.. i thought this was another run in about isna stories.. :no:

[mp3]

Girls in general don't.

I know but in desi culture they know that it is unlikely they can go doen the arrange marriage route if they have been and done all. So knowing that their family might want this, maybe they should think twice. Or select a partner not just for fun but one that they see a future with

[mp3]

lol.. by hook up event.. i thought this was another run in about isna stories.. :no:


Isna stories what are those?

[fr00ti]

Isna stories what are those?
bang bang down with the ppl in isna gang..meh..

[bad_cheque]

I know but in desi culture they know that it is unlikely they can go doen the arrange marriage route if they have been and done all. So knowing that their family might want this, maybe they should think twice. Or select a partner not just for fun but one that they see a future with
Yeah but most women have no control. It's no surprise. Also the fetish for badboys. Absolutely pathetic.

[mp3]

Yeah but most women have no control. It's no surprise. Also the fetish for badboys. Absolutely pathetic.


he wasnt exactly a badboy I know the lad. He just wore clothes like he was a rapper. Didnt study and he dumped her and went back to india or wherever he was from to get a wife. He himself has now matured and has got a job inline with his education and is doing ok. But she all that time didnt realise that for him it was a bit of fun.

[spice_of_life]

toss her here if she is pretty.

[mp3]

toss her here if she is pretty.


I can not lie she doesn't look bad. But I think she has been tossed around a bit too much.

[mp3]

lol


Don't laugh yet, I know what is to come. Her mum is going to phone in the next few days to see what I thought. I tried to be polite there and kinda say no, but they didnt get the message and my parents didn't exactly tell them to stop. my mums like give it another thought before I tell them no. I said I never gave it an initial thought.

[Aurovon]

Ya man that sucks.

I always go after good looking girls, not thinking about who she truly is, and it has bit me in the ass before. It ain't worth it, eventhough men focus so much more on looks than women...just gotta be smart/safe.

[bad_cheque]

he wasnt exactly a badboy I know the lad. He just wore clothes like he was a rapper. Didnt study and he dumped her and went back to india or wherever he was from to get a wife. He himself has now matured and has got a job inline with his education and is doing ok. But she all that time didnt realise that for him it was a bit of fun.
Yeah it must be one of those situations where everyone around sees the reality except the stupid partner.

Did she have multiple partners?

[mp3]

That really sucks. I hate when desis do that, weddings are the worst place to be. All brown people are trying to hook people up. How old are you?

Gonna be 22 soon

[mp3]

Yeah it must be one of those situations where everyone around sees the reality except the stupid partner.

Did she have multiple partners?


She wasn't that bad that she had plenty of partners. But she thought it was going to end in marriage, everyone knew where it was going.

The worst thing is her younger sister is going down the same line, but I don't think she is going to learn from the older ones mistakes

[mp3]

http://www.keyboardmag.com/Pictures/web/y/m/w/pk_1c.jpg

[Echelon]

This just highlights pathetic desi male thought, pathetic desi culture and oppressed females.

[mp3]

You are still young. = l

Well I suppose but its better to get married young as have finished education etc and in a job. So no point just living this bachelor lifestyle :rofl:

[KingDiamond]

you should have hooked up with her, then laughed at her future.

[mp3]

This just highlights pathetic desi male thought, pathetic desi culture and oppressed females.

No it doesnt as she isnt oppressed, she cant get another guy and is trying to hook up without telling them about her past. Everyone has a right to know who they are marrying. I my view is not pathetic, i didnt say it was a problem for her to be dating, but if she wanted something longterm and it could be seen it want going to last she should have gone for someone who met that criteria. Also i have the choice of what i prefer, I haven't been out on the town, so want a wife who is similar.

[mp3]

you should have hooked up with her, then laughed at her future.


if I done that, the joke would have been on me. Her whole family will be laughing at some idiot and I didnt want to be him. Actually it could be her parents don't know. But I doubt it.

[bad_cheque]

She wasn't that bad that she had plenty of partners. But she thought it was going to end in marriage, everyone knew where it was going.

The worst thing is her younger sister is going down the same line, but I don't think she is going to learn from the older ones mistakes
So just one partner? I wouldn't be so harsh on her.

But as you said, you haven't been out on the town and you have every right to have your standards.

[TheLoneAvenger]

So I went to someones house for a short eid visit as you do with my parents. All of a sudden it turned into a auntir ji hook you up with my daughter event. I know this girl for sometime and she is nice but ther family dont know about her past. Or tthey do and are playing it clever.

I felt sorry for the girl as she looked broken. Later she spoke to me and apologised and said i know you will not be interested etc because I had a boyfriend but I have changed. This girl is educated use to be quite confident and now is willing to marry any guy that will take her and do as he says.

She use to go out with this rudeboy wannabe who amounted to nothing and she says that she regretted it and now wishes that when she went to uni she had looked for a guy who was more suitable for her future. I dont think desi girls think about the long term.

Anyway to cut it short this girl has been around the block and now is trying to con some fool into getting with her as I know if he doesnt know about her she wont tell. But I am unsure if her family know or not cos if they do, they got no morals.

My mum is like she is a nice girl, what more do you want but I didnt want to expose her antics.


Would she admit her past to a potential husband if he asks or would she lie and deny it if the guy had no clue about her past?

[mp3]

So just one partner? I wouldn't be so harsh on her.

But as you said, you haven't been out on the town and you have every right to have your standards.

I don't know how many am not harsh that she had a partner that is her business. But she should be honest with anyone she goes for or tell her parents because if they don't know it could get ugly when the person who says yes finds out

[mp3]

Would she admit her past to a potential husband if he asks or would she lie and deny it if the guy had no clue about her past?

Who knows, only she knows that. It would be the sensible thing as these things come out in the end.

[bad_cheque]

I don't know how many am not harsh that she had a partner that is her business. But she should be honest with anyone she goes for or tell her parents because if they don't know it could get ugly when the person who says yes finds out
She should be honest. But how can parents go and tell a guy that their daughter did this and that?

Also she (or even he) should be honest before the engagement. I have seen people come out after the engagement. That's a cunning ploy. People are loathe to break engagements. But at the same time the clever little partner can say that he/she revealed everything before marriage.

[KingDiamond]

She should be honest. But how can parents go and tell a guy that their daughter did this and that?

Also she (or even he) should be honest before the engagement. I have seen people come out after the engagement. That's a cunning ploy. People are loathe to break engagements. But at the same time the clever little partner can say that he/she revealed everything before marriage.

i would slap the shit out of the girl if she lied to me like that. more men need to do this to prevent such lies.

[mp3]

She should be honest. But how can parents go and tell a guy that their daughter did this and that?

Also she (or even he) should be honest before the engagement. I have seen people come out after the engagement. That's a cunning ploy. People are loathe to break engagements. But at the same time the clever little partner can say that he/she revealed everything before marriage.


i dont expect parents too, but they shouldn't push things. They need to leave it to her to tell the person. Thats cunning after, but I have seen it happen then engagements are broken off. One family I know started asking the groom for more money etc and demanded he buy a house and this and that. before you ask they were asking the groom for money in islam there is a set amount called hugmehr that the groom gives to his wife which is agreed between the two. The girl didnt care but her family were insisting

[mp3]

i would slap the shit out of the girl if she lied to me like that. more men need to do this to prevent such lies.


if something like that happened and either side was not honest, they need to be fully exposed for telling lies. As through the process this is the sort of stuff they need to tell to decide if the engagement is something they want

[Echelon]

No it doesnt as she isnt oppressed, she cant get another guy and is trying to hook up without telling them about her past. Everyone has a right to know who they are marrying. I my view is not pathetic, i didnt say it was a problem for her to be dating, but if she wanted something longterm and it could be seen it want going to last she should have gone for someone who met that criteria. Also i have the choice of what i prefer, I haven't been out on the town, so want a wife who is similar.
You actually having some wierd predisposition against her for having an ex who was not typically 'good'. This may also be a narcisstic manifestion of how it'd taint your own personal image as someone who's submissive to her desperation, highlighting your own desperation of wanting a g/f to the desi community. This is pathetic in my books.

She is opressed, her parents and her cultural are opressing her with ideals of 'lady-like' behaviour.. Which is why she's currently having to lie to people she wants to get with.

Her falling in love with someone in the past is the most stupidest pre-condition when assessing suitors.

Desis: harden the fuck up.

[bad_cheque]

if something like that happened and either side was not honest, they need to be fully exposed for telling lies. As through the process this is the sort of stuff they need to tell to decide if the engagement is something they want
What if it happens after the engagement?

[mp3]

What if it happens after the engagement?

then they should break it off as the people were not honest, who knows what else will come out down the line

As if they tell before you are agreeing knowing everything, so nothing to complain about

[mp3]

Well isn't it difficult to have a education while your married. lol.

No as marriage is a learning process as well, its a new different type of education.

[Echelon]

See, the amazing thing is, if the girl was a guy and the guy was a girl.
There'd be no problems with this situation, why? desis have fucked up ideals.

[Chucky_666]

No as marriage is a learning process as well, its a new different type of education.
Yeah, definitely is. I never studied in my days, so it wouldn't kill me to handle both. The risk? I wouldn't take it. A wife's pathetic cries are worse than failing a test. :neutral:

[mp3]

See, the amazing thing is, if the girl was a guy and the guy was a girl.
There'd be no problems with this situation, why? desis have fucked up ideals.

No I would see it as the same thing. If the guy has been around he should tell the girl and it's up to her. The same way the guy has a choice so does the girl. Am sure no one would force a girl to mary a guy who she feels is not suitable as has had partners before which se don't agree with

[mp3]

Yeah, definitely is. I never studied in my days, so it wouldn't kill me to handle both. The risk? I wouldn't take it. A wife's pathetic cries are worse than failing a test. :neutral:


I have finished my studies and now work. So am ready for the next education of real life.

[Chucky_666]

I have finished my studies and now work. So am ready for the next education of real life.
And where do you work? Tescos? Morrisons? :p

[mp3]

And where do you work? Tescos? Morrisons? :p


Thats too up market, I work in McDonalds and get a free happy meal too.

[shadyzgal08]

aye hai :no:




hahaha

[Chucky_666]

Thats too up market, I work in McDonalds and get a free happy meal too.
Shit, me too.

[Chucky_666]

aye hai :no:




hahaha
You wish someone would put you on the market for marriage.

Don't worry, I'll have a metro as a backup for you.

[shadyzgal08]

You wish someone would put you on the market for marriage.

Don't worry, I'll have a metro as a backup for you.
hahahaha sorry but no marriage for me just yet :p

eww metros are too feminine for me :ugh:

[mp3]

aye hai :no:




hahaha

:tongue: shhhhhhhhh mop head

[shadyzgal08]

:tongue: shhhhhhhhh mop head
*gets her chappal*

:slap:

[mp3]

Shit, me too.

I have three stars now, how many are you on

[Chucky_666]

hahahaha sorry but no marriage for me just yet :p

eww metros are too feminine for me :ugh:
Not our fault that you're so manly.

[Chucky_666]

I have three stars now, how many are you on
Only 4. Been working there only a few hours.

[shadyzgal08]

Not our fault that you're so manly.
:hand:

they get facials and pedicures just like chicks too....that just screams 'im fem' :neutral:

[Chucky_666]

:hand:

they get facials and pedicures just like chicks too....that just screams 'im fem' :neutral:
OK, but do you?

[shadyzgal08]

OK, but do you?
do i what? :neutral:

[mp3]

Only 4. Been working there only a few hours.


i have been there 12 years. Got 1 badge every three years. But had one taken away as didnt unblock the toilet in time and there was overflow.

[Chucky_666]

do i what? :neutral:
Get facials/pedicures, whatever else the fuck girls do?

[Chucky_666]

i have been there 12 years. Got 1 badge every three years. But had one taken away as didnt unblock the toilet in time and there was overflow.
Quick tip: Just sit on the toilet seat all day, and when your manager asks where you were, tell him you were cleaning the bathroom.

That way, you're getting your system cleaned, you're on duty, there's no overflow, and you keep your badges.

[shadyzgal08]

Get facials/pedicures, whatever else the fuck girls do?
lol i got a facial once and it like gave me a rash :neutral:

i got a manicure once when i was 11....and then never again lol and i dont know why

i've never gotten a pedi cuz...hmm actually i dont know why :p and no i dont go to get my hair done and shit like that lol im not THAT girly :p

[Chucky_666]

lol i got a facial once and it like gave me a rash :neutral:

i got a manicure once when i was 11....and then never again lol and i dont know why

i've never gotten a pedi cuz...hmm actually i dont know why :p and no i dont go to get my hair done and shit like that lol im not THAT girly :p
But you're supposedly born a man, and do this girly shit. Hence, you're a metro too.

:Paper:

[shadyzgal08]

But you're supposedly born a man, and do this girly shit. Hence, you're a metro too.

:Paper:
:neutral:
you're the tranny here not me :p

[mp3]

Quick tip: Just sit on the toilet seat all day, and when your manager asks where you were, tell him you were cleaning the bathroom.

That way, you're getting your system cleaned, you're on duty, there's no overflow, and you keep your badges.


Good idea but I have other duties too. I have to be ronald mcdonald. Clean the kitchen and if I really do well they said i can find out the secret recepie.

[Chucky_666]

Good idea but I have other duties too. I have to be ronald mcdonald. Clean the kitchen and if I really do well they said i can find out the secret recepie.
I always pictured you a fat Ronald Mcdonald.

[Chucky_666]

:neutral:
you're the tranny here not me :p
Not the only one, mophead.

:hand:

[mp3]

I always pictured you a fat Ronald Mcdonald.

happiest day of my life when I got that uniform

[shadyzgal08]

Not the only one, mophead.

:hand:
:ashamed: oh great now you're gonna call me mophead too? :p

[Chucky_666]

happiest day of my life when I got that uniform
Wait, are you saying Ronald Mcdonald is fake?

[Chucky_666]

:ashamed: oh great now you're gonna call me mophead too? :p
Nope, to me, you're a brown barbie girl- stupid (slow), brown, and girly.

[mp3]

Wait, are you saying Ronald Mcdonald is fake?

No i am jsut a rep how can the great ronald be fake

[mp3]

My thread has gone off topic

[shadyzgal08]

Nope, to me, you're a brown barbie girl- stupid (slow), brown, and girly.
omfg :neutral: :neutral: :neutral:


ive always hated barbie and everything she reperesented...she ruined generations of young girls by making them think they needed to look a certain way :no: i cant beleive you think im like that

[Chucky_666]

No i am jsut a rep how can the great ronald be fake
Cheers, you scared me there.

Shit- It's 4AM and I'm supposed to be in court at 7 for my tickets. :mad:

[Chucky_666]

My thread has gone off topic
Thanks to you.

[sheerin]

she's not a virgin :no:

[Chucky_666]

omfg :neutral: :neutral: :neutral:


ive always hated barbie and everything she reperesented...she ruined generations of young girls by making them think they needed to look a certain way :no: i cant beleive you think im like that
Calm your hair down.

You're a DESI barbie girl, not a white one. :)

[mp3]

they totally dont think bout their future.....mi cousin wanted 2 spend the rest of her life w/ sum jobless guy...he wasnt even gud looking but i thot he was a gud guy.....well tht didnt exactly work out to her favor :neutral:


If he was a good guy then thats ok, but should give these things a thought on what they hold for the future

[shadyzgal08]

Calm your hair down.

You're a DESI barbie girl, not a white one. :)
im nothing like barbie, let it be white or desi :hand:

[Chucky_666]

im nothing like barbie, let it be white or desi :hand:
You're a typical desi girl.

[mp3]

she's not a virgin :no:


I didn't ask that, but unlikely the guy was putting the time in just to hold hands, if he had plans to drop her. Well there is a bit more I know but that is not confirmed, but am sure she won't be wearing white at her wedding

[shadyzgal08]

You're a typical desi girl.
im too whitewashed to be considered a typical desi girl lol

[Chucky_666]

If he was a good guy then thats ok, but should give these things a thought on what they hold for the future
Just marry Khanbaba_ or Kashif- both muslim males ready for marriage and love cricket like you.

[sheerin]

I didn't ask that, but unlikely the guy was putting the time in just to hold hands, if he had plans to drop her. Well there is a bit more I know but that is not confirmed, but am sure she won't be wearing white at her wedding
Its weird how she changes suddenly. She now is trying to find a husband and will do what he wishes. It sounds weird. :think:

[punjaban786]

Gonna be 22 soon
Me 2 :dance3:

[Chucky_666]

I didn't ask that, but unlikely the guy was putting the time in just to hold hands, if he had plans to drop her. Well there is a bit more I know but that is not confirmed, but am sure she won't be wearing white at her wedding
Next thing you know, I'm that guy. :p

[punjaban786]

Next thing you know, I'm that guy. :p
Chuckyyyyy :hug:

[Chucky_666]

Its weird how she changes suddenly. She now is trying to find a husband and will do what he wishes. It sounds weird. :think:
Mom and dad kicked her arse.

[Chucky_666]

Chuckyyyyy :hug:
And you are....? :sarb:

Besides Lame? :lol:

[punjaban786]

And you are....? :sarb:

Besides Lame? :lol:
suga-ali u forgot me ey :(

[mp3]

Its weird how she changes suddenly. She now is trying to find a husband and will do what he wishes. It sounds weird. :think:

once she has been around no one wants her. I am sure the parents know and habve really had a go at her and said get the whole arranged thing as the same stuff will happen again. Thats not weird at all, you will be suprised how many desi girls do this. They do all the stuff when younger then realise they haven't ended up with mr right. So go to mum and dad and say find me a good desi guy, educated, good job etc.

[Chucky_666]

suga-ali u forgot me ey :(
You never on msn and you changed your username again. :neutral:

[sheerin]

Mom and dad kicked her arse.
:think: Nope, she found out her bf isn't marriage material.

[mp3]

Just marry Khanbaba_ or Kashif- both muslim males ready for marriage and love cricket like you.


I think that would suit your lifestyle, I dont roll that way

[Chucky_666]

once she has been around no one wants her. I am sure the parents know and habve really had a go at her and said get the whole arranged thing as the same stuff will happen again. Thats not weird at all, you will be suprised how many desi girls do this. They do all the stuff when younger then realise they haven't ended up with mr right. So go to mum and dad and say find me a good desi guy, educated, good job etc.
That's when Ronald McDonald comes in.

[mp3]

Next thing you know, I'm that guy. :p


he looked the type to work at mcdonalds too

[Chucky_666]

I think that would suit your lifestyle, I dont roll that way
I already got some men in my life.

:Paper:

[Chucky_666]

he looked the type to work at mcdonalds too
Was he also a G ? :cool2:

[sheerin]

once she has been around no one wants her. I am sure the parents know and habve really had a go at her and said get the whole arranged thing as the same stuff will happen again. Thats not weird at all, you will be suprised how many desi girls do this. They do all the stuff when younger then realise they haven't ended up with mr right. So go to mum and dad and say find me a good desi guy, educated, good job etc.
nope, I am not surprised. I know many desi girls worse than her. But many parents send their daughters to Pakistan where no one knows about their past.

[mp3]

That's when Ronald McDonald comes in.

Damn right. the perks are in the free suit and happy meals

[punjaban786]

You never on msn and you changed your username again. :neutral:
My accounts on here are messed.. I changed my add..

[Chucky_666]

Damn right. the perks are in the free suit and happy meals
I got my man because of my fame, not me. :neutral:

Mophead- you'd be helpful here. Come, mop my tears.

[mp3]

nope, I am not surprised. I know many desi girls worse than her. But many parents send their daughters to Pakistan where no one knows about their past.


That happens a lot. She could be putting on an act once married wont do a thing he says. Putting on the innocent girl routine. But saying that she isn't a bad person in that way, so cant be sure. She made an error doesnt mean she is bad natured or anything. maybe she realised something and now has changed

[Chucky_666]

My accounts on here are messed.. I changed my add..
PM away. :salut:

Eid Mubarak as well.

[sheerin]

That happens a lot. She could be putting on an act once married wont do a thing he says. Putting on the innocent girl routine. But saying that she isn't a bad person in that way, so cant be sure. She made an error doesnt mean she is bad natured or anything. maybe she realised something and now has changed
Well thats true. But making a huge error like that isn't alwaysforgiven in Islam. I am not saying I am an Angel. But if I realize I am doing something wrong I change that as soon as possible, not when my parents find out and I suddenly realize i made a mistake.

[mp3]

Well thats true. But making a huge error like that isn't alwaysforgiven in Islam. I am not saying I am an Angel. But if I realize I am doing something wrong I change that as soon as possible, not when my parents find out and I suddenly realize i made a mistake.

Its not forgiven easily, but nothing can be done now. Apart from being honest. Its a shame it took that long to wise up. People need to wise up before.

[bad_cheque]

That happens a lot. She could be putting on an act once married wont do a thing he says. Putting on the innocent girl routine. But saying that she isn't a bad person in that way, so cant be sure. She made an error doesnt mean she is bad natured or anything. maybe she realised something and now has changed
Maybe she has changed....

[sheerin]

Its not forgiven easily, but nothing can be done now. Apart from being honest. Its a shame it took that long to wise up. People need to wise up before.
Thats my point. I guess girls don't think about the future only the present. Except me. :neutral:

[sheerin]

Maybe she has changed....
after her parents found out.

[punjaban786]

Its not forgiven easily, but nothing can be done now. Apart from being honest. Its a shame it took that long to wise up. People need to wise up before.
Your a ood dude bruv, i gots respect for you :D

[bad_cheque]

after her parents found out.
Maybe not. There is no indication that the parents know though most probably they do.

Sometimes people do indeed regret what they did in their youth. Of course, that doesn't mean Mr mp3 has to take her woes on himself. He can do better :D

[sheerin]

Maybe not. There is no indication that the parents know though most probably they do.

Sometimes people do indeed regret what they did in their youth. Of course, that doesn't mean Mr mp3 has to take her woes on himself. He can do better :D
I know. Love is blind.
Mp3 can do better.

[mp3]

I know. Love is blind.
Mp3 can do better.


Whos to say who is better or worse. But someone who fits with my idelogy and belief. i do wish her well, as she genuinely did look a bit broken as knows the type of questions she will face. Everyone has someone for them out there, so am sure with time she will find someone willing to except it, who maybe has been in a similar situation.

[sheerin]

Whos to say who is better or worse. But someone who fits with my idelogy and belief. i do wish her well, as she genuinely did look a bit broken as knows the type of questions she will face. Everyone has someone for them out there, so am sure with time she will find someone willing to except it, who maybe has been in a similar situation.
Humans aren't perfect......all of us make mistakes. She will find someone. Allah is merciful.......he forgaves. Hope she doesn't make the same mistake twice.

[bad_cheque]

Whos to say who is better or worse. But someone who fits with my idelogy and belief. i do wish her well, as she genuinely did look a bit broken as knows the type of questions she will face. Everyone has someone for them out there, so am sure with time she will find someone willing to except it, who maybe has been in a similar situation.
You sound very sympathetic to her.


Are you fighting yourself?

[mp3]

Humans aren't perfect......all of us make mistakes. She will find someone. Allah is merciful.......he forgaves. Hope she doesn't make the same mistake twice.


Hopefully, thats what i told her, dont think as you can't find a guy you go back into the same routine and get burnt twice. I also suggested she keep an eye on her sister.

I just think people should really think about things like this as they can have long term issues.

[mp3]

You sound very sympathetic to her.


Are you fighting yourself?


Nah I know what I am going for and she dont fit the bill. But I am not the type of person to say bad things like she got what sehe deserved etc. As mistakes happen and I hope it works out for her. Remember I did know her family for sometime, so i know they are generally good people, so would hope things are dealt with respectfuly without a big show. Because the way her parents are seeking a guy and if they are in the dark there could be some shocks to follow.

[sheerin]

Hopefully, thats what i told her, dont think as you can't find a guy you go back into the same routine and get burnt twice. I also suggested she keep an eye on her sister.

I just think people should really think about things like this as they can have long term issues.
we all make silly mistakes. Love is blind. She didn't realize the trouble she was getting into.

[mp3]

we all make silly mistakes. Love is blind. She didn't realize the trouble she was getting into.


Love isnt blind, its a bunch of youngsters hyped up on hormones, who know what is wrong but think for the moment and dont give a monkies. then X years later realise how stupid they were. But it is one of those things that have big effects.

[bad_cheque]

Nah I know what I am going for and she dont fit the bill. But I am not the type of person to say bad things like she got what sehe deserved etc. As mistakes happen and I hope it works out for her. Remember I did know her family for sometime, so i know they are generally good people, so would hope things are dealt with respectfuly without a big show. Because the way her parents are seeking a guy and if they are in the dark there could be some shocks to follow.
Sometimes guys find out and then don't care that much. They just proceed to not care about the marriage and even cheat.

It's very tricky for girls to reveal their past and this applies to non-desis too.

[sheerin]

Love isnt blind, its a bunch of youngsters hyped up on hormones, who know what is wrong but think for the moment and dont give a monkies. then X years later realise how stupid they were. But it is one of those things that have big effects.
trust me Love is blind. I am a teen. And I made a huge mistake........but I quickly fixed it. Yes its true.....youths are after lust and etc. But teens don't realize the bads in their partner.

[mp3]

Sometimes guys find out and then don't care that much. They just proceed to not care about the marriage and even cheat.

It's very tricky for girls to reveal their past and this applies to non-desis too.


thats why do it before marriage that way the guy/girl will know everything, so if they cant handle it shouldnt say yes

[mp3]

trust me Love is blind. I am a teen. And I made a huge mistake........but I quickly fixed it. Yes its true.....youths are after lust and etc. But teens don't realize the bads in their partner.


Probably they are young, same interests etc. But sex before marriage leads to problems for which there is no going back. Ok someone has a boyfriend/girlfriend but thatcan be looked over, if nothing really happened. But once they have been the whole 9 yards, it cant be the same

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B000051YIW.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

[sheerin]

Probably they are young, same interests etc. But sex before marriage leads to problems for which there is no going back. Ok someone has a boyfriend/girlfriend but thatcan be looked over, if nothing really happened. But once they have been the whole 9 yards, it cant be the same

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B000051YIW.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
I know. Pre-martial sex is forbided. Yea I know its not the same........but they make to my the better of it.

[bad_cheque]

thats why do it before marriage that way the guy/girl will know everything, so if they cant handle it shouldnt say yes
That's the ideal thing but doesn't happen like that always.

What we have a clash between western more and desi mores. Things will change.

[mp3]

I know. Pre-martial sex is forbided. Yea I know its not the same........but they make to my the better of it.

say what :sarb:

[sheerin]

say what :sarb:
lol. sorry. I meant you learn from your mistakes. :p

[mp3]

lol. sorry. I meant you learn from your mistakes. :p

You learn from them, but some mistakes cost you dearly. Thats life thats what people say, You're ridin' high in April, shot down in May

[sheerin]

You learn from them, but some mistakes cost you dearly. Thats life thats what people say, You're ridin' high in April, shot down in May
yep. Thats why we have to choose wisely.

[mp3]

yep. Thats why we have to choose wisely.

Time for me to go to sleep. I hope we all choose wisely, some things are just destiney anyway. Just make sure not to make the same mistake twice and pass on your knowledge to someone else who will do the same thing, so they can make a decision with all the info.

[mp3]

That's the ideal thing but doesn't happen like that always.

What we have a clash between western more and desi mores. Things will change.

They will, its getting more western, culture is changing. But some things will take longer then others. I think certain things should be preserved as keeps people on the straight and narrow. other things make no sense and are just artifical barriers that have no real place in the changing society.

[sheerin]

Time for me to go to sleep. I hope we all choose wisely, some things are just destiney anyway. Just make sure not to make the same mistake twice and pass on your knowledge to someone else who will do the same thing, so they can make a decision with all the info.
No one listening to a 16 yrs old girl. They don't listen to their parents. They won't listen to me. lol. I just stay out of the crowd thats all.

[mp3]

No one listening to a 16 yrs old girl. They don't listen to their parents. They won't listen to me. lol. I just stay out of the crowd thats all.

i didnt specifically mean you, but yeah you a 16 year old me anyone on this site really doesnt have much life experience to speak about. but chances are we have or will make the sdame mistakes. Who knows maybe I am wrong 20 years down the line, i could say oh this girl was ok, she made one mistake, who knows what problems i might face with whom I end up with. But right now she aint right for me. i just hope the future is bright.

[pachaas Paisa]

You should have hooked up with her and made her parents happy. Then after a while you should break up and create a whole drama.. JUST FOR FUN!

[KingDiamond]

See, the amazing thing is, if the girl was a guy and the guy was a girl.
There'd be no problems with this situation, why? desis have fucked up ideals.

I fail to see the problem Echelon.

Different standards.

[ewwwww]

Grow up! Everyone has skeletons in their closet. You just know about hers.

[mp3]

What is it that exactly bothers you here? The fact that she's been with boys OTHER THAN YOU? Or that you're scared that she will cheat on you since she's experienced?


As far "You can't turn a ho into a housewife"..Well, a lot of people are either going to marry a ho or a liar anyway.



Nothing bothers me, she isn't for the one for me.

[mp3]

Most parents aren't going to know about their kid's sex life. That's not something to talk about with your parents :wtf: Do you want your parents telling you what they did last night?


I didnt say she should say that, she should just let them know, she had a boyfriend. Because if they end up finding out from someone else it couldbe quite bad for them. You know how desi's are they will really riddicule them

[mp3]

Grow up! Everyone has skeletons in their closet. You just know about hers.

I dont think everyone does, or depends on the level of what the past involves. Different strokes for different folks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEZSZHBsqeg

[*BabyGirl*]

Some poor guy is going to be in for a shock

everyone deserves a second chance.. huna? :rolleyes:

[jus_me]

my grandmother still does it to me :no: even though i am already married.

before she used to just bring random people around (i say random, they knew "us" somehow through some weird connections e.g. my grandmother's next door neighbour's son in law's best friend's nephew) and they'd be like "so you have a daughter..looking to get her married?" :rolleyes:

my dad used to tell them to bugger off and now that ive moved out i dont know how often she brings these strangers around but when we go to weddings and parties she tells everyone that "im on the market" even though my husband is with me.

[kashif1986]

my grandmother still does it to me :no: even though i am already married.

before she used to just bring random people around (i say random, they knew "us" somehow through some weird connections e.g. my grandmother's next door neighbour's son in law's best friend's nephew) and they'd be like "so you have a daughter..looking to get her married?" :rolleyes:

my dad used to tell them to bugger off and now that ive moved out i dont know how often she brings these strangers around but when we go to weddings and parties she tells everyone that "im on the market" even though my husband is with me.
:rofl:

[$H@MZ]

You would be surprised that some people change... but it is the man who accepts them that would be the one with the guts...

Good Luck...

[jus_me]

:rofl:

:lol: its not funny. its not like im lying about being married, she has seen my husband, she only refuses to believe it because she wasnt invited to the wedding, yeah theres a reason for that :rolleyes:

i just let her get on with it now, she's the one that ends up looking stupid.

[kashif1986]

:lol: its not funny. its not like im lying about being married, she has seen my husband, she only refuses to believe it because she wasnt invited to the wedding, yeah theres a reason for that :rolleyes:

i just let her get on with it now, she's the one that ends up looking stupid.
it was kinda funny.

[mp3]

everyone deserves a second chance.. huna? :rolleyes:


They do I am all for second chances. Find a guy who deserves the same thing and they will be happy together

[mp3]

You would be surprised that some people change... but it is the man who accepts them that would be the one with the guts...

Good Luck...


Guts got nothing to do with it. It jut doesn't ffit in with what everyone is looking for. if someone doesn't mind then fine. I was just saying that all cards should be layed on the table

[mp3]

my grandmother still does it to me :no: even though i am already married.

before she used to just bring random people around (i say random, they knew "us" somehow through some weird connections e.g. my grandmother's next door neighbour's son in law's best friend's nephew) and they'd be like "so you have a daughter..looking to get her married?" :rolleyes:

my dad used to tell them to bugger off and now that ive moved out i dont know how often she brings these strangers around but when we go to weddings and parties she tells everyone that "im on the market" even though my husband is with me.


:rofl: now that is a gran who has a problem coming to terms with the fact that you are married. Does the politics ever stop

[*BabyGirl*]

They do I am all for second chances. Find a guy who deserves the same thing and they will be happy together
:sarb: still I don't see what the big deal is. keemon!

[mp3]

:sarb: still I don't see what the big deal is. keemon!


there is no big deal. I am jusst saying that she should make her parents aware before they hear it elsewhere and end up getting some abuse from a family who think they were trying a con

[*BabyGirl*]

there is no big deal. I am jusst saying that she should make her parents aware before they hear it elsewhere and end up getting some abuse from a family who think they were trying a con
making her parents aware would only make things more complicated for her. It's her past she should just let it go.. and others too. :rolleyes:

[TheLoneAvenger]

making her parents aware would only make things more complicated for her. It's her past she should just let it go.. and others too. :rolleyes:

But she should be upfront with any potential mate. If she wants to tell her parents, that's up to her. She should also realise that her parents could find out and it would be much worse finding out from relative strangers.

[*BabyGirl*]

But she should be upfront with any potential mate. If she wants to tell her parents, that's up to her. She should also realise that her parents could find out and it would be much worse finding out from relative strangers.
:sarb: I agree with you on that bit.

[oldskool_desi]

So I went to someones house for a short eid visit as you do with my parents. All of a sudden it turned into a auntir ji hook you up with my daughter event. I know this girl for sometime and she is nice but ther family dont know about her past. Or tthey do and are playing it clever.

I felt sorry for the girl as she looked broken. Later she spoke to me and apologised and said i know you will not be interested etc because I had a boyfriend but I have changed. This girl is educated use to be quite confident and now is willing to marry any guy that will take her and do as he says.

She use to go out with this rudeboy wannabe who amounted to nothing and she says that she regretted it and now wishes that when she went to uni she had looked for a guy who was more suitable for her future. I dont think desi girls think about the long term.

Anyway to cut it short this girl has been around the block and now is trying to con some fool into getting with her as I know if he doesnt know about her she wont tell. But I am unsure if her family know or not cos if they do, they got no morals.

My mum is like she is a nice girl, what more do you want but I didnt want to expose her antics.


The part in bold basically means that she has understood that she does not have the ability to find someone on her own and that’s why she would just marry anyone. The scenario you describe happens to like every desi girl I know. (well all the hoes)

The problem is that no one who knows bits of her past would want her now and people who don’t know her past will find out. If they hide that she had a sexual partner or partners then its gna cause problems in future.

She basically now wants an arranged marriage through her parents because she realized that on her own she will only get layed and played and wont find a man who would really be serious with her,, she sounds like one of those women which desi men fuck and then throw away and get married to someone back home or someone they like. Another problem is that many men will realize that she is this type of girl by talking to her and if she keeps on lying and tries to hide her past then it won’t last long till it’s exposed.

If she’s already hiding her past than she will definitely also lie in future and relationships based on lies don’t last long and aren’t really all that beautiful. She and her parents should be open about it with that new guy or leave it, who knows maybe he starts to like her even more if he sees that she’s a nice girl and doesn’t lie about her past.

Iv met a few of the type of girl you described since Iv been chilling with desis. I always try to help them and try to make them understand that lying and being deceitful will not find them the right partner. Most girls like that are angry that every man they have been with just fucked them and left them and they realize that many men will play them. It fucks up their trust in people but that’s the extreme type of fucked up girls.

[oldskool_desi]

I believe a famous man once said..

you cant turn a ho into a housewife!



The good thing for playas about desi hoes is that many of them don’t get pregnant and so these girls get played over and over again but still don’t find someone once they want to change. If they find someone it’s mostly someone they didn’t really like but married because they knew they wouldn’t find anyone better and try to like em and make it work. I find that really sad man, I have a few friends like that they just go for ugly and dumb men and prolly still get played. In the end the guy they get is always like the 2nd choice kinda thing and they can’t be completely happy and get jealous when they see other couples marrying or just happy etc.

Black girls get pregnant and fuck up big time, them hoes don’t find anyone either apart from just more dickheads. I think many black girls have a similar problem even though they don’t have the same culture and can’t get arranged marriages.

[di vinci]

honestly is the best policy, everyone has the right to know the past. better to get info from the horses mouth then finding out from someone else. if ur a irgin u deserve the same. wome vare just stupid hoes end of. they love their rudeboys n there gangsta guys. but they should always stick with the nice guy

[HeAvYmAcHiNeGuN]

comeonnnnnnn GET MARRIED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE

[T.Dimera]

They do I am all for second chances. Find a guy who deserves the same thing and they will be happy together

I used to like a girl in high school, but she was into thugs and gangsta's and I was more of a jock. Anyways she had her chance and she chose the gangsters.

Fastforward to last year....I ran into her in some random place..to find out all the guys in her past had played her, used her...and now she was destroyed because of her past mistakes and wanted to find a 'nice guy' to right all her wrongs. She see's a guy with a career, making $$ and
now she wants to talk?? haha...I kicked her to the curb and told her to marry a fob with a thick mustache...

[KingDiamond]

I used to like a girl in high school, but she was into thugs and gangsta's and I was more of a jock. Anyways she had her chance and she chose the gangsters.

Fastforward to last year....I ran into her in some random place..to find out all the guys in her past had played her, used her...and now she was destroyed because of her past mistakes and wanted to find a 'nice guy' to right all her wrongs. She see's a guy with a career, making $$ and
now she wants to talk?? haha...I kicked her to the curb and told her to marry a fob with a thick mustache...

you sound a bit bitter pal lol.

[oldskool_desi]

I used to like a girl in high school, but she was into thugs and gangsta's and I was more of a jock. Anyways she had her chance and she chose the gangsters.

Fastforward to last year....I ran into her in some random place..to find out all the guys in her past had played her, used her...and now she was destroyed because of her past mistakes and wanted to find a 'nice guy' to right all her wrongs. She see's a guy with a career, making $$ and
now she wants to talk?? haha...I kicked her to the curb and told her to marry a fob with a thick mustache...


That’s rude bro,, you should be nice to girls like that , its not their fault.

[mp3]

I used to like a girl in high school, but she was into thugs and gangsta's and I was more of a jock. Anyways she had her chance and she chose the gangsters.

Fastforward to last year....I ran into her in some random place..to find out all the guys in her past had played her, used her...and now she was destroyed because of her past mistakes and wanted to find a 'nice guy' to right all her wrongs. She see's a guy with a career, making $$ and
now she wants to talk?? haha...I kicked her to the curb and told her to marry a fob with a thick mustache...


Some girls are clever like that they go for the guys with the $$$ from the start. I went to quite a good uni so you knew that a lot of the candidates were up for good jobs and some of these girls made sure they hooked up with guys who were on good job prospects. I made sure I didnt get dooped by one of those. A guy in my class did he thought he had struck it lucky and some people did warn him, but he aint married her yet, so time will tell.

[TheLoneAvenger]

A lot of girls are naturally attracted to that because they're looking for a stable provider. Ambition is also a pretty sexy quality. I don't know any girl who gets turned on by laziness.


Even the girls who don't say that they don't care about money in the beginning will find that they would prefer a spouse that does make good money or has a professional education when they get older. I do know 18 and 19 year old girls that say that they're fine with them making more money than their boyfriends/husbands and they can be the one with the professional job. They change their minds when they hit their mid-20's though.

Yeah why is this? I thought with all of this feminism BS that women would be gung ho about being the breadwinners. Might as well put that college education to good use.

[mp3]

A lot of girls are naturally attracted to that because they're looking for a stable provider. Ambition is also a pretty sexy quality. I don't know any girl who gets turned on by laziness.


Even the girls who don't say that they don't care about money in the beginning will find that they would prefer a spouse that does make good money or has a professional education when they get older. I do know 18 and 19 year old girls that say that they're fine with them making more money than their boyfriends/husbands and they can be the one with the professional job. They change their minds when they hit their mid-20's though.

So the clever ones get their claws in early you are saying. Most do change their minds like you said. As most of the girls who were studying with me all wanted guys with a certain education and looked like after that they were going places. One of the guys in my class though is earning less then his wife and let me tell you it looks like she rules the household.

But I wouldnt put it as they are all gold diggers as they are looking for guys with a similar education level as them selves and whom can provide a good standard of living. But there are a few gold diigers who make it obvious what they are after.

[zaph69]

Again, I repeat.

I have no sympathy for girls who chase after these bad boys because they're so cool when they overlook nice guys because they're...nice.

[zaph69]

LOL, she is "unwanted" and "unsuitable for marriage" just because she has like one ex-boyfriend in her past? lol god, desi's are fucking pathetic oppressors.

Or the things she's done after her ex boyfriend?

[mp3]

LOL, she is "unwanted" and "unsuitable for marriage" just because she has like one ex-boyfriend in her past? lol god, desi's are fucking pathetic oppressors.


I didnt say she is unsuitable for everyone. She is unsuitable for me

[zaph69]

I didnt say she is unsuitable for everyone. She is unsuitable for me

Is she Suitable For Vegetarians?

[mp3]

Is she Suitable For Vegetarians?

I dont think she is suitable for human consumption

[mp3]

Beggars should not be choosers.

I dont need to beg. Looks like this scenerio is close to home for you.

[TheLoneAvenger]

First of all, the number of guys she's been with is unknown, what is known, is that she has been with one guy, so you can't assume she has "been around the block" if she had ONE ex-boyfriend in the past. That just proves a barbarian criteria that desi males possess, apparenly her personality, educatio, interests, intelligence..even her BEAUTY does not matter, the only thing that does matter if if her hymen is intact. White males definitly do not think like this.

If her potential mate is a virgin/hasn't been involved physically with another chick then I don't think it's unreasonable for him to want the same.

White guys don't value virginity because they try to fuck at every chance.

[mp3]

If her potential mate is a virgin/hasn't been involved physically with another chick then I don't think it's unreasonable for him to want the same.

White guys don't value virginity because they try to fuck at every chance.


Exactly, that is waht i said, I am sure there is someone in the same scenerio who is suitable for her. She now will have to go through a few more blokes to find the guy. If she wanted this sort of arranged marriage, she knew what was expected, so should have thought about it first. Everyone has a right to what they want and if lads dont want a girl who has been around the block, that is a fair criteria if they havent been around themselves

[TheLoneAvenger]

So do desi males. They are just hypocritical by wanting a virginal wife.

If the guys had sex (including oral etc) then yes, it is hypocritical of him to want a virgin wife.

If he hasn't than I don't think it's a big deal.

[Walktheline]

First of all, my parents did not have an arranged marriage nor do they believe in them, nor would I get married at my young age. Unlike you, I do not follow old backwards traditions.

hi, banshy.

[mp3]

So do desi males. They are just hypocritical by wanting a virginal wife.


If they have then it is wrong and they should be upfront to whom ever they choose also. If the girl excepts it then ok, else they should have thought first aswell.

[mp3]

First of all, my parents did not have an arranged marriage nor do they believe in them, nor would I get married at my young age. Unlike you, I do not follow old backwards traditions.


They are not backwards. If is done properly. its not ike the old days where people are forced. I'm not saying peole shouldnt find there own partners. That is something I considered, but sleeping around should be a no no

[Felonius Monk]

They are not backwards. If is done properly. its not ike the old days where people are forced. I'm not saying peole shouldnt find there own partners. That is something I considered, but sleeping around should be a no no
Eh? How would you have sex without sleeping around?

[TheLoneAvenger]

First of all, my parents did not have an arranged marriage nor do they believe in them, nor would I get married at my young age. Unlike you, I do not follow old backwards traditions.

Do people in the US or UK even have truly arranged marriages? It's more like parents assisting their children with finding potential mates. I grew up in Southern Ca and went to a decent number of weddings and didn't really encounter any "forced" marriages.

[TheLoneAvenger]

Um, trust me, my parents marriage was not "assisted"by my grandparents, since my grandparents were against the marriage because of the different religions.

When was their marriage? I'm sure forced/true arranged marriages were much more common in the past and still occur to a certain extent, but I don't think they're as common as once thought.

[mp3]

Eh? How would you have sex without sleeping around?

abstinence

[TheLoneAvenger]

I don't know, sometime during the eighties.

You don't know how long they've been married?

How thoughtful.

[mp3]

When was their marriage? I'm sure forced/true arranged marriages were much more common in the past and still occur to a certain extent, but I don't think they're as common as once thought.


I havent seen any forced marriages, it isnt like that anymore. very few cases now.

[mp3]

You don't know how long they've been married?

How thoughtful.


Born out of wedlock. So the parents have been giving all sorts of dates to cover themselves

[TheLoneAvenger]

Born out of wedlock. So the parents have been giving all sorts of dates to cover themselves

Hah!

[Felonius Monk]

abstinence
Sex by abstinence. Interesting.

[mp3]

Sex by abstinence. Interesting.

No sex before marriage

[mp3]

I don't keep track of stuff like that, nor does it matter to me. I don't live with my parents and haven't for a long time. The only thing I need to send them is a Happy Anniversary card on thier anniversary.

Is that it, only one card. Whats the world coming too

[Felonius Monk]

No sex before marriage
Wtf. Why not? Why did god give me mine penis if not to make use of it?

[TheLoneAvenger]

No sex before marriage

People really play around with the definition of no sex before marriage.

I got a cousin whos fine with getting handjobs and fingering a chick and both he and his girl consider themselves virgins.

There's a letter of the law and then there's a spirit of the law!

[mp3]

Wtf. Why not? Why did god give me mine penis if not to make use of it?

To pee and to use it with your wife.

[Walktheline]

I saw a new poster, called "the emo" and I thought of you. Although, "the emo" was born in 1989....


1989, eh. that sucks. oh well.
on to the next one. how many emos are on bharatmatrimony.com you think

[mp3]

People really play around with the definition of no sex before marriage.

I got a cousin whos fine with getting handjobs and fingering a chick and both he and his girl consider themselves virgins.

There's a letter of the law and then there's a spirit of the law!


Thats just fooling themselves.

[PakPlaya69]

First of all, the number of guys she's been with is unknown, what is known, is that she has been with one guy, so you can't assume she has "been around the block" if she had ONE ex-boyfriend in the past. That just proves a barbarian criteria that desi males possess, apparenly her personality, educatio, interests, intelligence..even her BEAUTY does not matter, the only thing that does matter if if her hymen is intact. White males definitly do not think like this.


COuldnt agree more with you there mate , its pathetic , yes she was in love and yes may be she done things with him so what , ok it ain fair on a guy who is a virgin but it pisses me off when guy who have fuked every single thing that moved asking for nice clean virgin wives , far out mate , poor gal wasin love and is probably more shattered , its so sad the way she said " i am sorry i know you wouldnt a gal like me" fuk mn she s nice and understands the fact that she might not be the first preference in a lot guys books, fuk this i would take her if she was nice and good looking , i bet she would be much more understanding and appreciative of a person and his personality than them mean virgins .. :mad:

[mp3]

COuldnt agree more with you there mate , its pathetic , yes she was in love and yes may be she done things with him so what , ok it ain fair on a guy who is a virgin but it pisses me off when guy who have fuked every single thing that moved asking for nice clean virgin wives , far out mate , poor gal wasin love and is probably more shattered , its so sad the way she said " i am sorry i know you wouldnt a gal like me" fuk mn she s nice and understands the fact that she might not be the first preference in a lot guys books, fuk this i would take her if she was nice and good looking , i bet she would be much more understanding and appreciative of a person and his personality than them mean virgins .. :mad:


I hear you and you are right on some things. I felt sad for her too, the way she told me as she knew that I know her background. But is she telling everyone about this. I'm not sure she is.

[PakPlaya69]

I hear you and you are right on some things. I felt sad for her too, the way she told me as she knew that I know her background. But is she telling everyone about this. I'm not sure she is.

Look every one makes imstakes and when you are in love its hard not to go ahead with things that might bring to closer to that person , alota times we ( guys) use emotions and mind games to get our way , probably she got trapped in it and all may be she wanted to do it we don know, bu its harsh to judge that person entirely based on that one event, may be she s telling every one people who already know about it to get some sympathy, i don kno its fuken speghetti like , its sad bt so is life , she was willing to do it now she has to pay for it too , :neutral:

[TheLoneAvenger]

Look every one makes imstakes and when you are in love its hard not to go ahead with things that might bring to closer to that person , alota times we ( guys) use emotions and mind games to get our way , probably she got trapped in it and all may be she wanted to do it we don know, bu its harsh to judge that person entirely based on that one event, may be she s telling every one people who already know about it to get some sympathy, i don kno its fuken speghetti like , its sad bt so is life , she was willing to do it now she has to pay for it too , :neutral:

I feel bad for the chick to a certain extent. But since Im assuming she's Muslim, she's had to have known the limits our religion places on these types of interactions.

[Walktheline]

I think the number...would be zero.


none of that fatalist emo-tude here, miss. :hand:
you're probably right though.

[PakPlaya69]

I feel bad for the chick to a certain extent. But since Im assuming she's Muslim, she's had to have known the limits our religion places on these types of interactions.

Yeh well shit happens mate , what can you do , if she had brians she wouldn have done anything like that , obviously she was dumb enough to take it that far , hope she finds somone who will understand that or somone who ll never learn it if she sealed or not hehe besides it ain that easy to work out when you havnt been there before ;)

[Echelon]

I feel bad for the chick to a certain extent. But since Im assuming she's Muslim, she's had to have known the limits our religion places on these types of interactions.Love is irrational and when both parties are mutually consenting, it shouldn't be bounded by rigid ideals. We are humans not robots.

[Gt_BabyGurl]

Lord
All i say u did the right thing
And she is pretty low

[wateva123]

:rolleyes:

[TheLoneAvenger]

You're talking to a Muslim male. That kind of logic doesn't work. Religion will always have a place in their life (regardless of how little it is), no matter how liberal they may seem. There are exceptions though, but I don't think he's one of them. If he was a non-Muslim Desi, then there would be more hope or a greater influence with your comment.

This is true. Religion generally takes precedence over other things. Plus it helps that I don't really believe in loving the person before I marry them. I figure if we are compatible and can live together without wanting to kill the other, things should fall into place.

[ana]

Gandhi bachi


stone her.

[Echelon]

Maybe Desi girls should act just like Desi guys then to make them suffer. :dunno:If desi girls didn't have ideals imposed through culture, they probably wouldn't be as 'pretentious' per se and males will get what they want before they tragically turn into desperate jerks.
If you notice most desi guys, during adolescents, will find it extremely frustrating on a sexual level to find desi girls that are willing to have relations with them - mainly due to the fear of 'sex' and have it is usually implied when in a relationship and/or other factors like religion/caste/ethnicity. Slowly they become desperate and hungry for sex. Their only resolve is to watch adult films/watch bollywood stars and use them as sexual objects for masturbation material.

Thus, they become totally blinded by the imagery of sexual females, that they lose sight of the human-side of a woman. Due to the way things are seen on screen, they also are deprived of any concept of 'intimacy'.
Their tainted image is reflected on the streets as per banshod thread. Their sexualised view of females totally fucks up other ideals imposed through religion/culture.

[dutsqg]

You're talking to a Muslim male. That kind of logic doesn't work. Religion will always have a place in their life (regardless of how little it is), no matter how liberal they may seem. There are exceptions though, but I don't think he's one of them. If he was a non-Muslim Desi, then there would be more hope or a greater influence with your comment.
Thats only because most Muslms are either Muslim or not Muslim.

So either you're Muslim before you're anything else, or you're just not Muslim.

Thats just how it works. You can't pick and choose a couple things from Islam and mix it with your own lifestyle and call it a religion,etc.

This is respectable, more then those people of other religions who try and rationlize all the wrong they do and still consider themselves devoted to their religion.

However, in the case of Muslim males, you make it seem like a bad thing.

[bad_cheque]

As Zaph said, I don't have a lot of sympathy for women who were sleeping around with bad boys when they were young. If they lack judgement at a younger age then its their fault and I am sure they are ready to face the consequences. I lacked judgement about my career and I am paying for it now by being not in a place where I could have been. I don't need anyone's sympathy for that nor do I deserve it.

mp3, you cannot scoff at the girls in your uni and at the same time think in this manner about the girl you discussed in the original post. The former found stable relationships early and had the good judgement not to go around with bad boys/rude boys/lazy bums. You could say that they got what they would have got in an arranged marriage or even better. From the guy's side maybe they could have done better. But that is the guy's bad judgement or his choice whichever way you want to look at it.

I don't think mp3 has to succumb to so new notion about marriage just because that is what is popular in the West. He is conservative and deserves to have his choice.

banshod, you are the product of an inter-religious marriage. Your situation and your upbringing is very different from the others. You cannot pass judgement on others with your experiences. Neither are others passing any judgement on you.

[TheLoneAvenger]

Yes. Thanks for not taking my comment the wrong way, lol. There's nothing wrong with putting religion first everyday or allowing the rules of your religion to influence what you look for in a mate. It's just not how I was raised though or how I think, and you can't really convince me either to think otherwise. I can't convince other Muslims to think like me either.

I kinda figured that part.

[Echelon]

As Zaph said, I don't have a lot of sympathy for women who were sleeping around with bad boys when they were young. If they lack judgement at a younger age then its their fault and I am sure they are ready to face the consequences. I lacked judgement about my career and I am paying for it now by being not in a place where I could have been. I don't need anyone's sympathy for that nor do I deserve it.

mp3, you cannot scoff at the girls in your uni and at the same time think in this manner about the girl you discussed in the original post. The former found stable relationships early and had the good judgement not to go around with bad boys/rude boys/lazy bums. You could say that they got what they would have got in an arranged marriage or even better. From the guy's side maybe they could have done better. But that is the guy's bad judgement or his choice whichever way you want to look at it.

I don't think mp3 has to succumb to so new notion about marriage just because that is what is popular in the West. He is conservative and deserves to have his choice.

banshod, you are the product of an inter-religious marriage. Your situation and your upbringing is very different from the others. You cannot pass judgement on others with your experiences. Neither are others passing any judgement on you.
I don't even think this girl was 'sleeping around' to begin with.
She's had one boyfriend, ffs!
My god, what is wrong with you people.

[bad_cheque]

If desi girls didn't have ideals imposed through culture, they probably wouldn't be as 'pretentious' per se and males will get what they want before they tragically turn into desperate jerks.
If you notice most desi guys, during adolescents, will find it extremely frustrating on a sexual level to find desi girls that are willing to have relations with them - mainly due to the fear of 'sex' and have it is usually implied when in a relationship and/or other factors like religion/caste/ethnicity. Slowly they become desperate and hungry for sex. Their only resolve is to watch adult films/watch bollywood stars and use them as sexual objects for masturbation material.

Thus, they become totally blinded by the imagery of sexual females, that they lose sight of the human-side of a woman. Due to the way things are seen on screen, they also are deprived of any concept of 'intimacy'.
Their tainted image is reflected on the streets as per banshod thread. Their sexualised view of females totally fucks up other ideals imposed through religion/culture.

I agree with that.

Also, the fetish for white women comes a lot from porn.


I will add the arranged marriages are increasingly not working well.

Here's some advice for youngsters:

Try to find a good partner that would be quite acceptable to everyone (need not be acceptable 100% because that rarely happens)

Don't think that you have to go through several ones to find the right one.

If you are having an arranged marriage take the decision after some interaction and thinking. Don't be in a haster.

Do all this as early as possible if you really want to get married.

[bad_cheque]

I don't even think this girl was 'sleeping around' to begin with.
She's had one boyfriend, ffs!
My god, what is wrong with you people.
It's mp3's choice. To be sure, he is offering a clean slate and maybe he wants one too. What's wrong with that?

I didn't find anything much wrong with her.

I would be really worried if she was with some gangster or criminal type. In that case even a single one is enough to bring trouble later on.

Somebody said white guys don't care. Even white guys care and every guy does. They just vary on the number of partners. If she has a slutty behaviour no guy of any race is going to touch her unless he has some kind of fetish for such ones.

[Echelon]

The entire arranged marriage/sex before marriage concept is slightly outdated nowadays, considering the proliferation of sex within the media. Back in the ole days, teens were generally curious about feelings, but never had a reasonable view of how to gratify sexual feelings (unless they saw two people have sex in person that is).
Today shit is totally different, people can comprehend what they're missing out on and are constantly reminded via sex idols.

[bad_cheque]

The entire arranged marriage/sex before marriage concept is slightly outdated nowadays, considering the proliferation of sex within the media. Back in the ole days, teens were generally curious about feelings, but never had a reasonable view of how to gratify sexual feelings (unless they saw two people have sex in person that is).
Today shit is totally different, people can comprehend what they're missing out on and are constantly reminded via sex idols.
Yeah the shit is different because it means more money to be made by selling sex and things related to it.

This kind of culture is only weakening societies. It's not something to look forward to. It is just part of the mindless advance of capitalism and I know that this is for a different thread.

[Echelon]

Yeah the shit is different because it means more money to be made by selling sex and things related to it.

This kind of culture is only weakening societies. It's not something to look forward to. It is just part of the mindless advance of capitalism and I know that this is for a different thread.
Not really its just inevitable.
Whenever theres a demand, theres a market.

[bad_cheque]

Not really its just inevitable.
Whenever theres a demand, theres a market.
It is not inevitable. We will have to go back on some of the stupid liberal views that have underlied a lot of rules and laws all over the world. Also we have to get over this notion that sexual licentiousness is equaivalent to sexual liberation and is something to be achieved. It is not. In fact it cause more problems than necessary.

[Echelon]

But even if a Desi girl says yes or takes on a sexually upfront role, the result is having guys in this thread diss them or experiencing someone like Aurovon getting scared and confused at a Desi girl making the first move.


I guess if you think about the long-term consequences, a Desi girl pretending to be a virgin is better than defying norms and sexual mores in Desi culture.


At first, it seems really fun and you think you're cool for being such a rebel and refuting the "Desi girls are prudes" stereotype.....but some of those girls find themselves in a slump when it comes to settling down because those same Desi guys now want the type of girls that they were complaining about in highschool/college. The fun that girls had in highschool and college is over.
I think when you're young and naive and a girl wants to do it, you can be pretty submissive, because sexual fetish/conscience is pretty underdeveloped at that age. And even then, lets pretend they're both consenting and its not so sudden, my previous deductions seem logical, no?

Yeah, the entire defying thing, ultimately depends on the society which surrounds you. I mean, i'm a man whore, ill accept that, but such status doesn't really have major repercussions in the society i live in (maybe a few hi5's from my male colleagues).

I agree, cultural awareness and ideals have a major effect on people and short term rebellious perceptions are probably not a good thing in a society confined by sexual ideals.

My analogy was more towards a utopia with limited sexual ideals that aren't so oppressive. It'd really rid the desi male jerk syndrome.

[Felonius Monk]

Yeah the shit is different because it means more money to be made by selling sex and things related to it.

This kind of culture is only weakening societies. It's not something to look forward to. It is just part of the mindless advance of capitalism and I know that this is for a different thread.
Not necessarily. Some of the people I work with come are German and Dutch, both countries where porn is freely available and nudity is common in both print and tv. These guys have remarkably healthy attitudes towards sex and women in general.

I think its the other way around. In societies where sex (and porn) is considered dirty, it naturally leads to unhealthy obsessive attitudes to both.

[TheLoneAvenger]

Not necessarily. Some of the people I work with come are German and Dutch, both countries where porn is freely available and nudity is common in both print and tv. These guys have remarkably healthy attitudes towards sex and women in general.

I think its the other way around. In societies where sex (and porn) is considered dirty, it naturally leads to unhealthy obsessive attitudes to both.

Wwell, pakistan and india do lead in searches for animal sex.

So there might be something to that.

[Echelon]

It is not inevitable. We will have to go back on some of the stupid liberal views that have underlied a lot of rules and laws all over the world. Also we have to get over this notion that sexual licentiousness is equaivalent to sexual liberation and is something to be achieved. It is not. In fact it cause more problems than necessary.
Consider this, how are you going to prevent the proliferation of sexualisation within media/markets?

Its not really a matter of sexual licentiousness and sexual liberation, its more so how art is construed and how it will inevitably be blurred to suit proliferators of sexual products.
As long as there is a liberation in the arts, there will be a liberation in sex.

Censoring these things on a mass scale is futile.

If you look at europe however, they've never utilised the MTV concept, but have less regulations and censorship than America.

[Echelon]

Even some girls respond positively to "Manwhores" by thinking that you must know what you're doing in bed to get so many girls or that that you are viewed as attractive by others. I forgot to add that some girls want experienced men, which might be another reason why Desi females don't emphasize virginity on their husbands too much. Two virgins having sex when they're married would be like two unexperienced and naive teenagers having sex, and not everybody necessarily wants that. Teenage sex isn't the best for a lot of people. Teenagers don't know what they're doing and they're still learning.

Some people will say that a man getting women to have sex with him is an "accomplishment" to justify double-standards. A promiscuous female though isn't viewed as being "accomplished" though.I don't think its about the perception of him being good in bed which is so alluring. Its more about "why are other females so submissive? whats the demand?"
and of course, the obvious traits: man whores are generally good looking alphas.
Note; I'm not talking about man whores who just hit on every girl/paid whore either.

Girls subconsciously look at things on a demand scale. They want a Louis Vutton bag not because it looks good (I generally think they look shit), but because all other hot bitches be reppin' that shit. I think guys think more towards the "sexual angle", how much she puts out etc and how easy it would be to get what they want.

[bad_cheque]

Not necessarily. Some of the people I work with come are German and Dutch, both countries where porn is freely available and nudity is common in both print and tv. These guys have remarkably healthy attitudes towards sex and women in general.

I think its the other way around. In societies where sex (and porn) is considered dirty, it naturally leads to unhealthy obsessive attitudes to both.
...and you identified the problem to be the conservativeness rather than porn which nothing but conversion of one more human instinct into commodities convertible to capital.

[bad_cheque]

Consider this, how are you going to prevent the proliferation of sexualisation within media/markets?

Its not really a matter of sexual licentiousness and sexual liberation, its more so how art is construed and how it will inevitably be blurred to suit proliferators of sexual products.
As long as there is a liberation in the arts, there will be a liberation in sex.

Censoring these things on a mass scale is futile.

If you look at europe however, they've never utilised the MTV concept, but have less regulations and censorship than America.
Maybe we could start out by changing attitudes.

Socially Coservative and Economically Liberal.

[Felonius Monk]

...and you identified the problem to be the conservativeness rather than porn which nothing but conversion of one more human instinct into commodities convertible to capital.
Which is not necessarily a bad thing. Developing a rich cuisine is also developing commodities for gratification of physical senses. Your assertion was that the selling of sex is somehow symbolic of the degradation of society. My point was that its not the selling of sex, but the nature of the gratification derived from it that might be unhealthy. Which is why i pointed out that there are several societies where sexual content is available freely without any perceivable degradation in values or whatever way you choose to measure the health of a society.

[ssjasper2003]

Girls in general don't.


Very true, most of them in the relationship(s) think that it wont end. Promiscuous is the way to go :dance3: .

[Echelon]

I find those Louis Vutton bags pretty ugly as well. I'm not dishing out money to buy that crap. I also don't find Hrithik Roshan or Brad Pitt attractive, even though the vast majority of women want to rip their clothes off. But, I guess you're right about other girls though.

Hmm.....how do you view the girls that you sleep with? Do you think they're whores as well and would you never consider getting serious with them? What if your parents hooked you up with a potential girl to get married to and you found out that she engaged in some casual sex escapades?
Firstly, if a girl I fuck is 'stupid' I generally classify her as a whore, subconsciously. But I never really treat her as a whole. If she isn't stupid, well then she's just someone i nailed.

Secondly, my parents wouldn't do that, why? because they cant. And if they ever did, as long as that thing was in the past, i'd appreciate her lack of frigidity.

[bad_cheque]

Which is not necessarily a bad thing. Developing a rich cuisine is also developing commodities for gratification of physical senses. Your assertion was that the selling of sex is somehow symbolic of the degradation of society. My point was that its not the selling of sex, but the nature of the gratification derived from it that might be unhealthy. Which is why i pointed out that there are several societies where sexual content is available freely without any perceivable degradation in values or whatever way you choose to measure the health of a society.
We don't see it or see it as a result of it.

We find more serial killers in the West. Its a phenomenon starting up in India (and guess where but in the fractured societies of urban metros.)

Germans abide by the law in Germany perhaps because of strict enforcement but they indulge in pervertion in places like Poland where there has been a surge in the number of pregnant prostitutes simply because many German perverts seem to have a fetish for pregnant women and are ready to pay big money for it. What happens to the children would be a good question? But then like the externalities of Capitalism they are pushed on to a poor country. Collateral damage.

The British form a major percentage of paedophile tourists caught in countries like Cambodia, Vietnam, Sri Lanka, India etc.

I remember a scene from that movie about the discovery of AIDS (I forget its name.) The 60-something year old wife of a man dying of AIDS is surprised to hear that a man can have sexual relationship with another man. Sometimes ignorance can be bliss. Porn is teaching all kinds of perverted acts to crazy people escpecially in poorer countries were the laws are lax and punishment for abuse rare.

The solution is not further fracture societies and bring in lax morality but to police and even control this proliferating porn.

At the same time we will have to go back to a vocational form of education where teenagers actually learn on the job rather than while away time in schools and colleges on their parents' income as is the case back home. It will teach skills, responsibility and they will learn to engage their minds with better things.

I am indeed talking about 'back to basics' however ugly that term has become (thanks to the Tories.)

[BENGALI4EVA1]

So I went to someones house for a short eid visit as you do with my parents. All of a sudden it turned into a auntir ji hook you up with my daughter event. I know this girl for sometime and she is nice but ther family dont know about her past. Or tthey do and are playing it clever.

I felt sorry for the girl as she looked broken. Later she spoke to me and apologised and said i know you will not be interested etc because I had a boyfriend but I have changed. This girl is educated use to be quite confident and now is willing to marry any guy that will take her and do as he says.

She use to go out with this rudeboy wannabe who amounted to nothing and she says that she regretted it and now wishes that when she went to uni she had looked for a guy who was more suitable for her future. I dont think desi girls think about the long term.

Anyway to cut it short this girl has been around the block and now is trying to con some fool into getting with her as I know if he doesnt know about her she wont tell. But I am unsure if her family know or not cos if they do, they got no morals.

My mum is like she is a nice girl, what more do you want but I didnt want to expose her antics.
pshh she is used goods, kicke her ass to the curb :shakefis:

[bad_cheque]

What is banshod?
A human being (...I hope.)

[MrCanuck]

I hate those. What's even worst is when your own friends try to hook you up and say things like "He's a good looking guy, why can't he find a girl?" or "You're 22? Oh it's time...". Why can't they just accept the fact that I am quite happy being single and I don't NEED a g/f. I am not trying to find one and I do not want one.

It's like you go to an average guy who is quite happy with his job, you offer him a job for a million dollars, he is not interested, then you rub your million in his face.

What's even worst is that when someone tries to hook you up with someone you might think be a potential candidate. There goes your self image and the words "DESPERATE", "SHY" and "NEEDY" get printed on your forehead in BOLD, CAPITAL letters.

I mean tell me, what if I never want to get married? Is that a sin? I have only had non desi g/f's for obvious reasons. But now I don't care much for them either.

[schaxeb]

I hate those. What's even worst is when your own friends try to hook you up and say things like "He's a good looking guy, why can't he find a girl?" or "You're 22? Oh it's time...". Why can't they just accept the fact that I am quite happy being single and I don't NEED a g/f. I am not trying to find one and I do not want one.

It's like you go to an average guy who is quite happy with his job, you offer him a job for a million dollars, he is not interested, then you rub your million in his face.

What's even worst is that when someone tries to hook you up with someone you might think be a potential candidate. There goes your self image and the words "DESPERATE", "SHY" and "NEEDY" get printed on your forehead in BOLD, CAPITAL letters.

I mean tell me, what if I never want to get married? Is that a sin? I have only had non desi g/f's for obvious reasons. But now I don't care much for them either.

i saw this girl at a party once, and told my frned that i was gonna go talk 2 her. i turn around and hes tlking to her... about me WANTING TO TLK TO HER... i was fucking pissed. needless to say, i never approached her.

on a similar note, i had a cuz visitng from florida over xmas... and she had a couple of rishtas for me, complete with pix n stuff. i was like WTF??? i'll ask u for hookup help when i need it!!!

[Echelon]

Didn't you say in another thread that you're not interesting in long-term relationships? So are you planning to be a manwhore for the rest of your life or are you ever going to maintain the Desi tradition by marrying and having kids?Dawg, when im 30, i'd like to have kids, its just another part of life. But so is being a man whore. I'm going to screw as many bitches as I can before I even consider wanting to settle down.
You know travel the world etc etc.
You only live once, carpe diem.

[Felonius Monk]

We don't see it or see it as a result of it.

We find more serial killers in the West. Its a phenomenon starting up in India (and guess where but in the fractured societies of urban metros.)

Germans abide by the law in Germany perhaps because of strict enforcement but they indulge in pervertion in places like Poland where there has been a surge in the number of pregnant prostitutes simply because many German perverts seem to have a fetish for pregnant women and are ready to pay big money for it. What happens to the children would be a good question? But then like the externalities of Capitalism they are pushed on to a poor country. Collateral damage.

The British form a major percentage of paedophile tourists caught in countries like Cambodia, Vietnam, Sri Lanka, India etc.

I remember a scene from that movie about the discovery of AIDS (I forget its name.) The 60-something year old wife of a man dying of AIDS is surprised to hear that a man can have sexual relationship with another man. Sometimes ignorance can be bliss. Porn is teaching all kinds of perverted acts to crazy people escpecially in poorer countries were the laws are lax and punishment for abuse rare.

The solution is not further fracture societies and bring in lax morality but to police and even control this proliferating porn.

At the same time we will have to go back to a vocational form of education where teenagers actually learn on the job rather than while away time in schools and colleges on their parents' income as is the case back home. It will teach skills, responsibility and they will learn to engage their minds with better things.

I am indeed talking about 'back to basics' however ugly that term has become (thanks to the Tories.)
You're being disingenous. Paedophilia etc are rampant even in countries like India and have been for a very long time. The majority of paedophile tourists may be from Europe, but so are the majority of tourists. Just because an Indian cant afford it doesnt mean he isnt buggering kids in his village - a practice that is well documented.

Anyway, there will always be people who derive pleasure from the foribidden and of course the more liberal you are, the further they will take their deviant actions. My point is censoring all porn is neither practical, nor is it effective, as it makes an act that is both natural and necessary for the majority of the population dirty. Right now india for example has some of the most stringent laws on sexuality on screen in addition to being very conservative as a society. Interestingly a big chunk of the illegal porn industry consists of rape scenes (bollywood movies do this too in a less blatant way). There's a correlation there. The difference here is that while in Germany a small part of the population is aroused by sexual excesses like fucking pregnant women, in India, a much larger chunk of the population finds the abuse of women arousing because the boundaries in society are frustrating to a much larger segment of the population. I'd much rather have my daughter grow up in a country where <1% of the male population are complete freaks than in a country where a sizable majority of the men are misogynistic and abusive.

[bad_cheque]

You're being disingenous. Paedophilia etc are rampant even in countries like India and have been for a very long time. The majority of paedophile tourists may be from Europe, but so are the majority of tourists. Just because an Indian cant afford it doesnt mean he isnt buggering kids in his village - a practice that is well documented.

Anyway, there will always be people who derive pleasure from the foribidden and of course the more liberal you are, the further they will take their deviant actions. My point is censoring all porn is neither practical, nor is it effective, as it makes an act that is both natural and necessary for the majority of the population dirty. Right now india for example has some of the most stringent laws on sexuality on screen in addition to being very conservative as a society. Interestingly a big chunk of the illegal porn industry consists of rape scenes (bollywood movies do this too in a less blatant way). There's a correlation there. The difference here is that while in Germany a small part of the population is aroused by sexual excesses like fucking pregnant women, in India, a much larger chunk of the population finds the abuse of women arousing because the boundaries in society are frustrating to a much larger segment of the population. I'd much rather have my daughter grow up in a country where <1% of the male population are complete freaks than in a country where a sizable majority of the men are misogynistic and abusive.
I was only telling you that Europe is no better than conservative societies in terms of sexual deviancy. Social fragmentation might be making it worse in case of western countries. It is just that such incidences are lower within their own countries because of strict enforcement of the law and their ability to travel abroad to indulge in their fetishes.

How can you just say that a country like India has a higher percentage of sexual deviants? A survey found that a vast majority of people in India have had only one partner in their lifetime. It was met with amazement among posters that I saw on the internet but its that fact. I can vouch for it from what I have seen.

There has been an increase in sex-related crime and prostitution in the past few years. I believe that it is indeed fueled by easy access to porn on the internet, economic growth, lax morals that put more importance on money/capital and of course poor law enforcement.

I can turn around your argument and say that women should cover themselves more because it is natural human instinct to get aroused when men see too much flesh. It increases the chances of a sexual assault. What we have is a partial acceptance of western mores in sense of dressing but at the same time clinging to conservative mores of the past. Add porn-addled drunk yobs to the mix and you have the mess that is seen in urban metros especially in Delhi.

We can make an attempt to curb porn. We could bring back the taboo that was associated with consumption of alcohol. But in the race to creat new "markets" we are doing the very opposite. Along with that all this is presented as a fait accompli and we are encouranged to give up our values.

[MrCanuck]

i saw this girl at a party once, and told my frned that i was gonna go talk 2 her. i turn around and hes tlking to her... about me WANTING TO TLK TO HER... i was fucking pissed. needless to say, i never approached her.

on a similar note, i had a cuz visitng from florida over xmas... and she had a couple of rishtas for me, complete with pix n stuff. i was like WTF??? i'll ask u for hookup help when i need it!!!

Shit always happens. People think that either I am hitting on a girl or she's my sister or something. Why can't they just remain cool and not assume anything? Like why can't a guy and a girl have a casual conversation? That is how you get to know each other right? Not if people around you talk like you are trying to score.

What sucks even more for me is that I already love someone and any conversation with other girls is just plutonic, yet assumptions are still made. Either that or I am pushed into hitting on girls I have no interest in whatsoever.

[gurl_exotica]

so she's a "BAD" girl just coz she had a boyfriend? :think:

[lemmesee]

if shes any attractive, shes had a bf. if you want a girl whose never even kissed a guy.... you'll have to lower ur standards... i mean alot.

[gurl_exotica]

^^^^

u need to stop judging people by their past..
ithe foundations of a healthy happy relationship is trust..
u have to trust a person enough to know that they are what they are in the present and not what they wer in the past..

[TheLoneAvenger]

^^^^

u need to stop judging people by their past..
ithe foundations of a healthy happy relationship is trust..
u have to trust a person enough to know that they are what they are in the present and not what they wer in the past..

Spoken like someone with something they aren't proud of?

I'm not saying you should condemn a person for their past, but to discount it completely is dumb.

[NedFlanders]

Spoken like someone with something they aren't proud of?

I'm not saying you should condemn a person for their past, but to discount it completely is dumb.

You make a good point here!

[gurl_exotica]

Spoken like someone with something they aren't proud of?

I'm not saying you should condemn a person for their past, but to discount it completely is dumb.
we all have something in our past that we arent proud of..
life's a constant struggle to be a better person today that wat wer yesterday..
for me atleast..

in that effort if u have someone who judges u ONLY and only on the basis of your past refusing to acknowledge a wiser improved "u" today..its disheartening..

i dont say that someone's past should be discounted completely..
but one's opinion of a person shoul not solely be based on that person's past..

[NedFlanders]

we all have something in our past that we arent proud of..
life's a constant struggle to be a better person today that wat wer yesterday..
for me atleast..

in that effort if u have someone who judges u ONLY and only on the basis of your past refusing to acknowledge a wiser improved "u" today..its disheartening..

i dont say that someone's past should be discounted completely..
but one's opinion of a person shoul not solely be based on that person's past..

I think you guys are saying the same thing

[gurl_exotica]

I think you guys are saying the same thing
hmm..i guess so..