Prince Charles is a convert to Islam

[fratty]

http://www.meforum.org/article/356
Well supposedly. He converted to Islam back in the 90s. A mufti of Cyprus said he did. He does admire Islam quite a bit.

[Irreligious Left]

People on Rd only care if soccer stars and black comedians convert.

[fratty]

People on Rd only care if soccer stars and black comedians convert.

Haha, all I know is England could become a very different place if the Defender of the Faith is a muslim. I mean he would have no allegiance to the Anglican Church.

[walkaway]

Haha, all I know is England could become a very different place if the Defender of the Faith is a muslim. I mean he would have no allegiance to the Anglican Church.
i dont know man ...the quran gives too many choices that why alot of the muslims are so corrupt they choose the wrong desicion...if this guy is truly good in his heart then islam is the rite religion for him..if hes not he will just turn england into a sexist terrorist country where bunch of guys have like 30 wives covered

[fratty]

i dont know man ...the quran gives too many choices that why alot of the muslims are so corrupt they choose the wrong desicion...if this guy is truly good in his heart then islam is the rite religion for him..if hes not he will just turn england into a sexist terrorist country where bunch of guys have like 30 wives covered

But it makes sense why a Prince might find appeal in Islam. Many Islamic countries are still run by royalty. Prince Charles might be positioning himself and his family to rule over a Caliph of England. The surging muslim population of England and the religion which does not separate Church and State might allow for Prince to exert much power over the kingdom. If not him, his children if they accept Islam as well.

[Angelno15]

http://www.meforum.org/article/356
Well supposedly. He converted to Islam back in the 90s. A mufti of Cyprus said he did. He does admire Islam quite a bit.

Lol. You guys wish.

If Prince Charles converts Im moving back to India.

[MolviCorleone]

Lol. You guys wish.

If Prince Charles converts Im moving back to India.

why? what skin is it off your back?


anyway i think the article is a hoax

[MolviCorleone]

i dont know man ...the quran gives too many choices that why alot of the muslims are so corrupt they choose the wrong desicion...if this guy is truly good in his heart then islam is the rite religion for him..if hes not he will just turn england into a sexist terrorist country where bunch of guys have like 30 wives covered

that is the most pathetic thing ive read on this site since one of truth5958s posts.

[cunninglinguist]

i think there should be a sticky thread for recent muslim converts
i hear the pope is converting also
as well as hitler, posthumously

[walkaway]

that is the most pathetic thing ive read on this site since one of truth5958s posts.
truth hurts but yuh islam can either corrupt the fuck out of you or make you the most peaceful man on earth..or female...on earth..it just depends on the person it snot like the bible wher it jus tell you what to do..the quran says"u may have multiple wives but u can true man can only love ONE"...then dumbasses like that singer that came up wit the song"SMACK THAT"goes and marries like 3 wives cause hes rich

[Angelno15]

why? what skin is it off your back?


anyway i think the article is a hoax

Im a christian and if the sort of head of the church is converting Id be very disappointed. My parnts moved here because they wanted to live in a christian country.

Yeah your probably right about it being a hoax.

[MolviCorleone]

Im a christian and if the sort of head of the church is converting Id be very disappointed. My parnts moved here because they wanted to live in a christian country.

Yeah your probably right about it being a hoax.

Well what he does will hardly ever have an impact on your life. I thought this was a secular country. Or is it only secular when it suits certain people?

walkaway-So basically what your saying is, some random singer who is rich married 3 women and that means hes a dumbass.

do you know him? Do you know his wives? what if they allowed it.

Also let me get this right, prince charles converts to islam and that means muslims will just start marrying 30 women n shit like that.

No wonder muslims don't give a fuck what you people have to say. You guys make no sense at all.

[21cent]

Well what he does will hardly ever have an impact on your life. I thought this was a secular country. Or is it only secular when it suits certain people?

walkaway-So basically what your saying is, some random singer who is rich married 3 women and that means hes a dumbass.

do you know him? Do you know his wives? what if they allowed it.

Also let me get this right, prince charles converts to islam and that means muslims will just start marrying 30 women n shit like that.

No wonder muslims don't give a fuck what you people have to say. You guys make no sense at all.

some christians can be dumbasses

example:bush and Angelno15
:p

[walkaway]

Well what he does will hardly ever have an impact on your life. I thought this was a secular country. Or is it only secular when it suits certain people?

walkaway-So basically what your saying is, some random singer who is rich married 3 women and that means hes a dumbass.

do you know him? Do you know his wives? what if they allowed it.

Also let me get this right, prince charles converts to islam and that means muslims will just start marrying 30 women n shit like that.

No wonder muslims don't give a fuck what you people have to say. You guys make no sense at all.
what the fuck r u talking about..he married 3 wives in the name ofislam saying it allows it in the religion..WHICH IT DOES..it gives u a option..hes a singer in US ..even if they allowed it they just did it for money..IT STRICTLY SAYS IN THE QURAN that YES U CAN MARRY MORE THEN ONE BUT A TRUE MAN CAN ONLY TREAT ONE CORRECTLY..QURAN PLAYS mind tricks it doesnt tell you what to do man like the bible..

[walkaway]

Lol. You guys wish.

If Prince Charles converts Im moving back to India.
..seeing how ur a dumbass...if england prince turns to islam u are gonna leave..why??is islam such a bad religion...islam is as bad as the person followin its guidelines because tahts what they are...GUIDELINES

[killuminati87]

...

[walkaway]

her choice/opinion why does it matter to you? she never even said she was going to move to the US.. so really what's the issue?
its better she doesnt move to the US we got enuff morons that think anyone that is islamic is some ......u kno what i mean?

[Angelno15]

Well what he does will hardly ever have an impact on your life. I thought this was a secular country. Or is it only secular when it suits certain people?

walkaway-So basically what your saying is, some random singer who is rich married 3 women and that means hes a dumbass.

do you know him? Do you know his wives? what if they allowed it.

Also let me get this right, prince charles converts to islam and that means muslims will just start marrying 30 women n shit like that.

No wonder muslims don't give a fuck what you people have to say. You guys make no sense at all.

Why is it a problem that I dont want the 2nd head of the church to convert to Islam. He's an ambassador of the church of England and it would be disappointing thats all.

Some people have such a chip on their shoulder. You need to realise that not everybody is muslim and everybody is entitled to feel how they feel and not be intimidated to say how they feel.

[cunninglinguist]

Why is it a problem that I dont want the 2nd head of the church to convert to Islam. He's an ambassador of the church of England and it would be disappointing thats all.

Some people have such a chip on their shoulder. You need to realise that not everybody is muslim and everybody is entitled to feel how they feel and not be intimidated to say how they feel.
if you say what's on your mind, you're a dirty stinkin' racist

[walkaway]

Why is it a problem that I dont want the 2nd head of the church to convert to Islam. He's an ambassador of the church of England and it would be disappointing thats all.

Some people have such a chip on their shoulder. You need to realise that not everybody is muslim and everybody is entitled to feel how they feel and not be intimidated to say how they feel.
ur a moron ...typical thinkn that muslims want everyone to be muslims and want to take over the world...if prince wants to change to islam why would u run back to india??tell me exactly how do you feel about muslims?

[killuminati87]

its better she doesnt move to the US we got enuff morons that think anyone that is islamic is some ......u kno what i mean?

morons are everywhere tho, you get the same foolish ideas all over the world
so really would it matter?

[Angelno15]

..seeing how ur a dumbass...if england prince turns to islam u are gonna leave..why??is islam such a bad religion...islam is as bad as the person followin its guidelines because tahts what they are...GUIDELINES

Im not a dumbass just because I have a different opinion to you. Stop being childish with the name-calling.

I dont agree with alot of the islamic guidelines. I respect Prince Charles as he is the 2nd head of the church.

[walkaway]

morons are everywhere tho, you get the same foolish ideas all over the world
so really would it matter?
as long as there only a few around me..yuh it matters..if i was sorrounded my morons i would prob be dead by now..thank god i live in miami and its not as bad as certain parts

[21cent]

Why is it a problem that I dont want the 2nd head of the church to convert to Islam. He's an ambassador of the church of England and it would be disappointing thats all.

Some people have such a chip on their shoulder. You need to realise that not everybody is muslim and everybody is entitled to feel how they feel and not be intimidated to say how they feel.

those missionaries got u good huh

[killuminati87]

ur a moron ...typical thinkn that muslims want everyone to be muslims and want to take over the world...if prince wants to change to islam why would u run back to india??tell me exactly how do you feel about muslims?

why does it matter if she doesn't want to be in a country like that? especially considering his position in general and then in her faith, try to imagine it if roles were reversed.

[Angelno15]

ur a moron ...typical thinkn that muslims want everyone to be muslims and want to take over the world...if prince wants to change to islam why would u run back to india??tell me exactly how do you feel about muslims?

Some are nice, some are horrible.

[walkaway]

Im not a dumbass just because I have a different opinion to you. Stop being childish with the name-calling.

I dont agree with alot of the islamic guidelines. I respect Prince Charles as he is the 2nd head of the church.
ur an idiot..do you know what a guideline is? it gives you a choice of what u should do..if u dont agree with it u dont have to thats why alot of islamic people are so corrupt..they are only guidelines u dont HAVE TO FOLLOW THEM...so i guess if prince charles switches to islam u wouldnt respect him anymore rite...ur a sad person

[21cent]

Some are nice, some are horrible.

i hope u know the king and queen have no power over the govt

thats why theirs a election and a prime minister

[killuminati87]

as long as there only a few around me..yuh it matters..if i was sorrounded my morons i would prob be dead by now..thank god i live in miami and its not as bad as certain parts

but the problem is they will always be around, and who is a moron is based on your perspective, when you sit back and look at it they are everywhere, here your mainly talking about those who are ignorant to islam in some way or form, yet what about those within islam who are ignorant on hinduism etc?

then extremism.. thats completely mornonic yet you get sections in nearly all if not all faiths.

you're never going to be safe from morons ..

[killuminati87]

ur an idiot..do you know what a guideline is? it gives you a choice of what u should do..if u dont agree with it u dont have to thats why alot of islamic people are so corrupt..they are only guidelines u dont HAVE TO FOLLOW THEM...so i guess if prince charles switches to islam u wouldnt respect him anymore rite...ur a sad person

err i think thats more hinduism, we can do what like (basically) with the religion as a guideline to live a good life, specific parts can be obeyed or not depending on the person. where as islam is a stricter religion? with clearer rights and wrongs defined?

or that's what i thought :sarb:

[MolviCorleone]

what the fuck r u talking about..he married 3 wives in the name ofislam saying it allows it in the religion..WHICH IT DOES..it gives u a option..hes a singer in US ..even if they allowed it they just did it for money..IT STRICTLY SAYS IN THE QURAN that YES U CAN MARRY MORE THEN ONE BUT A TRUE MAN CAN ONLY TREAT ONE CORRECTLY..QURAN PLAYS mind tricks it doesnt tell you what to do man like the bible..

first of all, stop being an emotional bitch please, its overplayed on this website, everyone with a problem with muslims seems mental.


does it say it in those words? yeh? the arabic language is a lot different to the english language, words can be taken the wrong way when read in english but lets forget that. Its fairly simple because there are plenty of people and islamic laws from quran and hadith which set out the laws.

A normal man will marry one wife, that is enough. BUT in an extreme situation or if you know you have the ability to take care of upto 4 women and can treat and love them all equally, then you can marry them BUT only with the consent of your wife/wives.

It makes sense.




:p @ quran plays mind tricks.

[walkaway]

but the problem is they will always be around, and who is a moron is based on your perspective, when you sit back and look at it they are everywhere, here your mainly talking about those who are ignorant to islam in some way or form, yet what about those within islam who are ignorant on hinduism etc?

then extremism.. thats completely mornonic yet you get sections in nearly all if not all faiths.

you're never going to be safe from morons ..
there are many diff types of morons..i have described her type..the type that thinks "if ur islamic ur a dirty sexist terrorist who wants to marry multiple wives and then treat them like shit"...she hasnt said it stright out but i can tell by her wording...she is afriad to see it out loud..am not even a good muslim i dont follow alot of the stuff but i do believe in allah but people like her piss me off..i admit islamic alot of the stuff happens because of the WORDING in the QURAN...BUT LIKE I SAID..ISlam CAN ONLY BE BAD AS THE PERSON FOLLOWN ITS GUIDELINES...if this girl was islamic she would be a bitch...

[Angelno15]

ur an idiot..do you know what a guideline is? it gives you a choice of what u should do..if u dont agree with it u dont have to thats why alot of islamic people are so corrupt..they are only guidelines u dont HAVE TO FOLLOW THEM...so i guess if prince charles switches to islam u wouldnt respect him anymore rite...ur a sad person

For goodness sake......Look I was joking. I take it back. I dont want the 2nd head of the church to be Islamic. Im sorry if that upsets people. I dont care if someone else converts because thats nothing to do with me. Prince Charles will soon be head of the church and he will have some say in how the church will be run but if hes not christian then he wont care and the church will be neglected. I would stll respect him beause theres plenty of tolerant muslims that I respect. i.e. Malcolm X.

I respect Islam and some of the guidelines but not all.

[walkaway]

err i think thats more hinduism, we can do what like (basically) with the religion as a guideline to live a good life, specific parts can be obeyed or not depending on the person. where as islam is a stricter religion? with clearer rights and wrongs defined?

or that's what i thought :sarb:
nope most of the quran only gives you little guidelines...it never tells you WHAT TO DO...bible is strict as fuck..if u read the bible carefully it basically says u cant do ANYTHING..everyhting is technically a sin

[gurl_exotica]

what shyt do ppl come up with? :lol:
it's quite sad how muslic clerics are resorting to such cheap puplicity stunts :no:

[MolviCorleone]

Why is it a problem that I dont want the 2nd head of the church to convert to Islam. He's an ambassador of the church of England and it would be disappointing thats all.

Some people have such a chip on their shoulder. You need to realise that not everybody is muslim and everybody is entitled to feel how they feel and not be intimidated to say how they feel.

no, i would understand it its just that your argument is 'we moved to a christian country and i wouldnt like it if he converted to islam'

most people here are christian, granted but its meant to be a secular society where people of all religions can live so it makes no difference whether charles is a christian, muslim or hindu. It doesnt affect us.

[walkaway]

For goodness sake......Look I was joking. I take it back. I dont want the 2nd head of the church to be Islamic. Im sorry if that upsets people. I dont care if someone else converts because thats nothing to do with me. Prince Charles will soon be head of the church and he will have some say in how the church will be run but if hes not christian then he wont care and the church will be neglected. I would stll respect him beause theres plenty of tolerant muslims that I respect. i.e. Malcolm X.

I respect Islam and some of the guidelines but not all.
sorry i knew for a fact u werent joking..i know people that have ur mentality..and lol @ malcolm X..he also made the wrong choice by condoning violence saying that the quran said it...quran says U are ALLOWED TO FIGHT BACk..but ud ont have to do it ina violent way...why did he have to go all violent..it didnt help much

[Angelno15]

no, i would understand it its just that your argument is 'we moved to a christian country and i wouldnt like it if he converted to islam'

most people here are christian, granted but its meant to be a secular society where people of all religions can live so it makes no difference whether charles is a christian, muslim or hindu. It doesnt affect us.

Please refer to my post above.

[gurl_exotica]

first of all, stop being an emotional bitch please, its overplayed on this website, everyone with a problem with muslims seems mental.


does it say it in those words? yeh? the arabic language is a lot different to the english language, words can be taken the wrong way when read in english but lets forget that. Its fairly simple because there are plenty of people and islamic laws from quran and hadith which set out the laws.

A normal man will marry one wife, that is enough. BUT in an extreme situation or if you know you have the ability to take care of upto 4 women and can treat and love them all equally, then you can marry them BUT only with the consent of your wife/wives.

It makes sense.




:p @ quran plays mind tricks.
it's funny how u talk about islam and at the same time go around calling women bitches and hoes..
doesnt go too well with the whole philosphy..
as far as i know islam teaches u to respect woman..
like u urself said..:)
Raja ji?

[MolviCorleone]

http://wiki.merkey.net/w/images/d/dd/Nathan20031226100117funnyfile1.jpeg

[walkaway]

what shyt do ppl come up with? :lol:
it's quite sad how muslic clerics are resorting to such cheap puplicity stunts :no:
muslim clerics are the biggest fucking morons in the entire world..next to child raping chruches...i think religion all together is fucked up..thats whty i just believe in allah but not a huge religious person but i hate people that label others

[killuminati87]

nope most of the quran only gives you little guidelines...it never tells you WHAT TO DO...bible is strict as fuck..if u read the bible carefully it basically says u cant do ANYTHING..everyhting is technically a sin

not everything.. but in the bible its more define, in hinduism not really defined,
but i thought in the quran it was more than just guidlines, as in it was strict but then allowances were made if youw ent down a wrong path

[Angelno15]

sorry i knew for a fact u werent joking..i know people that have ur mentality..and lol @ malcolm X..he also made the wrong choice by condoning violence saying that the quran said it...quran says U are ALLOWED TO FIGHT BACk..but ud ont have to do it ina violent way...why did he have to go all violent..it didnt help much

I dont agree wih the violence mentality but he was articulate and he had charisma. He fought for what he believed in and I respect that he fought foor a good cause for his people. It was a cause that needed some-one that had his leadership.

I know alot of tolerant muslims that would respect and not call me childish names and I respect them. They are peaceful people as a whole but you have a few nuters that want to have argument after argument with someone who doesnt agree with them or their religion.

[fratty]

England hasn't been a Christian country in a long time. But maybe there will be a revival of Christian belief in the country. I hear there is reverse-missionary work being done from countries where English missions first went. I hear of Nigerians, Kenyans, Singaporans, and Indians going to England to evangelize.

[gurl_exotica]

http://wiki.merkey.net/w/images/d/dd/Nathan20031226100117funnyfile1.jpeg
exactly..
i just put it in less gotesque words..

[MolviCorleone]

it's funny how u talk about islam and at the same time go around calling women bitches and hoes..
doesnt go too well with the whole philosphy..
as far as i know islam teaches u to respect woman..
like u urself said..:)
Raja ji?



i don't know whether that poster is a man or a woman. It's a term i use to describe people who have a screw loose. Emotional bitch. In fact i think most the times i use it, its on guys like truth9697, spiky etc the mental lot.

but I very much respect women, i have 4 sisters afterall.

[Angelno15]

i hope u know the king and queen have no power over the govt

thats why theirs a election and a prime minister

Really I didnt know that :rolleyes:

However you might not know the king and queen are head of the church.

[walkaway]

not everything.. but in the bible its more define, in hinduism not really defined,
but i thought in the quran it was more than just guidlines, as in it was strict but then allowances were made if youw ent down a wrong path
there is no hell..every muslim goes to "paradise" and let me give u another example of what am tlaing about...like it says in the quran to have the female dress "RESPECTFULLY"..lnot like whores...the the dumb dumb motherfuckers iin ME made all the females dress up in Burkas and its only so they can CONTROL the females..it has nothing to do with religion they onyl want control over the females...alot of bullshit goes down in the name of islam cause the guidelines arent clear...like Bangladesh is a ISlamic country but the females there NEVER wear burkas..we already had 2 female presidents i mean thats gotta says oemthing? if islam was soo bad towards females like it SAYS to in the quran..then how come a islamic country has had a female president before the US..?its just all media bullshit

[gurl_exotica]

muslim clerics are the biggest fucking morons in the entire world..next to child raping chruches...i think religion all together is fucked up..thats whty i just believe in allah but not a huge religious person but i hate people that label others
that is why allah says find out the truth for urself..it's all in front of u in the quran..
u just have to read and find out and discover and imbibe..
no one can interpret our religions for us..we have to do it ourselves..

[walkaway]

I dont agree wih the violence mentality but he was articulate and he had charisma. He fought for what he believed in and I respect that he fought foor a good cause for his people. It was a cause that needed some-one that had his leadership.

I know alot of tolerant muslims that would respect and not call me childish names and I respect them. They are peaceful people as a whole but you have a few nuters that want to have argument after argument with someone who doesnt agree with them or their religion.
yuh now ur saying U just HATE ME...i can read between ur lines u cant take back what u said originally..dont try to single me out after u got caught red handed as a racist and i dont follow islamic guidelines...so i dont give a fuck weather u agree or not but dont label me

[walkaway]

that is why allah says find out the truth for urself..it's all in front of u in the quran..
u just have to read and find out and discover and imbibe..
no one can interpret our religions for us..we have to do it ourselves..
EXACTLY...i could not have said it better..oh wait I ALREADY DID..i said"islam is only as bad as the person following its guideless"...think about it ..it makes perfect sense

[gurl_exotica]

i don't know whether that poster is a man or a woman. It's a term i use to describe people who have a screw loose. Emotional bitch. In fact i think most the times i use it, its on guys like truth9697, spiky etc the mental lot.

but I very much respect women, i have 4 sisters afterall.
i respect u for the fact that u respect women..:)

allah teaches us tolerance..there are more humane ways to explain stuff right? a hot headed argument never got us anythin? right?

she's making no sense anyway..u're just using all the wrong words and giving a wrong impression of muslims..
i'm sure u're not like that..
try saying the same thing to her with a better choice of words n hope that she understands..
otherwise god help..:no:

[gurl_exotica]

EXACTLY...i could not have said it better..oh wait I ALREADY DID..i said"islam is only as bad as the person following its guideless"...think about it ..it makes perfect sense
lol yes it does..PERFECT :)

[MolviCorleone]

that is why allah says find out the truth for urself..it's all in front of u in the quran..
u just have to read and find out and discover and imbibe..
no one can interpret our religions for us..we have to do it ourselves..

theres also a saying that when a person tries to study islam on his own then he isnt alone but in the presence of the devil.

why? because a normal person really doesn't have the ability to understand things the way they really are and when a persons mind wonders they can go on the wrong path. To develop spiritually you need someone who knows what level you are at, spiritually to help you improve and understand. We all need a guide to teach us the Quran and Hadith, I don't mean a normal bearded fella who happens to know nothing. Real religious people are the ones who have already reached the higher levels of tawassuf and are very close to Allah, know many things a normal person just would not know

walkaway-stop! if you beleive in Allah then you have to beleive in His book and His Prophets.

[walkaway]

i respect u for the fact that u respect women..:)

allah teaches us tolerance..there are more humane ways to explain stuff right? a hot headed argument never got us anythin? right?

she's making no sense anyway..u're just using all the wrong words and giving a wrong impression of muslims..
i'm sure u're not like that..
try saying the same thing to her with a better choice of words n hope that she understands..
otherwise god help..:no:
i can care less if she understandsor not..there no point she already has a established opionion..there no changing it..i dont follow islamic guidelines but dont fucking label me with the Middle eastern stereotypical BS

[walkaway]

theres also a saying that when a person tries to study islam on his own then he isnt alone but in the presence of the devil.

why? because a normal person really doesn't have the ability to understand things the way they really are and when a persons mind wonders they can go on the wrong path. To develop spiritually you need someone who knows what level you are at, spiritually to help you improve and understand. We all need a guide to teach us the Quran and Hadith, I don't mean a normal bearded fella who happens to know nothing. Real religious people are the ones who have already reached the higher levels of tawassuf and are very close to Allah, know many things a normal person just would not know

walkaway-stop! if you beleive in Allah then you have to beleive in His book and His Prophets.
no i dont dude dont get me started on taht shit..

[MolviCorleone]

i respect u for the fact that u respect women..:)

allah teaches us tolerance..there are more humane ways to explain stuff right? a hot headed argument never got us anythin? right?

she's making no sense anyway..u're just using all the wrong words and giving a wrong impression of muslims..
i'm sure u're not like that..
try saying the same thing to her with a better choice of words n hope that she understands..
otherwise god help..:no:

I didn't know she was a woman
didn't know she was a cofused muslim

thought HE is some random islam basher like truth9697, spiky etc who don't deserve to be spoken to in a 'nice respectful way'

[MolviCorleone]

no i dont dude dont get me started on taht shit..

where did you get that from? please do get started, or pm me.


Without the Quran and Prophetic teachings I don't think you could possibly really beleive in Allah.

What sort of a god do you beleive in? what are His attributes?

[gurl_exotica]

theres also a saying that when a person tries to study islam on his own then he isnt alone but in the presence of the devil.

why? because a normal person really doesn't have the ability to understand things the way they really are and when a persons mind wonders they can go on the wrong path. To develop spiritually you need someone who knows what level you are at, spiritually to help you improve and understand. We all need a guide to teach us the Quran and Hadith, I don't mean a normal bearded fella who happens to know nothing. Real religious people are the ones who have already reached the higher levels of tawassuf and are very close to Allah, know many things a normal person just would not know

walkaway-stop! if you beleive in Allah then you have to beleive in His book and His Prophets.
we're not talking about studying islam alone..
all i'm saying is who decides who's right who's wrong..what's wrong..
there are so many schools of thoughts..
what we have to do is interpret religion for ourselves..
a true muslim knows in his heart what is right..allah shows him..
u shud have the desire to know the correct path n allah guides u..righ?

[Angelno15]

We all need to take a deep breath and cam down.

I am making sense that I dont want the future head of the church to convert. What doesnt make sense here?

If Prince Charles converted then it wouldnt effect the government. I know that.

There is nothing wrong with the religion that is Islam. I wouldnt care if most people converted.

Im not racist as 90% of muslims are nice tolerant people.

Walkaway - I didnt think I would offend so much and thats why I said I take it back because I dont want anybody to be personally offended and next time Ill think about what I say.

[gurl_exotica]

i can care less if she understandsor not..there no point she already has a established opionion..there no changing it..i dont follow islamic guidelines but dont fucking label me with the Middle eastern stereotypical BS
may allah guide u :no:

[gurl_exotica]

I didn't know she was a woman
didn't know she was a cofused muslim

thought HE is some random islam basher like truth9697, spiky etc who don't deserve to be spoken to in a 'nice respectful way'
ermmm..i was talking about Angelno15 but yeah..
walkaway's thinking is problematic..too
we can only tell ppl like him..
and leave the rest to god..
that's "da'awa"..
i just hope he doesnt go do all the wrong things and say "i believe in the principles of islam" :no:

[MolviCorleone]

we're not talking about studying islam alone..
all i'm saying is who decides who's right who's wrong..what's wrong..
there are so many schools of thoughts..
what we have to do is interpret religion for ourselves..
a true muslim knows in his heart what is right..allah shows him..
u shud have the desire to know the correct path n allah guides u..righ?

it is that way of thinking that gave birth to the sect thing.

Even the sahabas had diffeences in thier opinions however that is allowed in islam. Differences are not a bad thing and that is written in hadiths.

However, when people get to the point where they read something, think it is a certain way and tell other muslims they are wrong without really knowing everything fully. We have limits due to the positiona we are in spiritually, therefore certain things might not make sense to us but we think we understand. There are muslims who think homosexuality is ok in islam because they have misread things in the Quran. Their way of thinking was like yours. Y

[gurl_exotica]

it is that way of thinking that gave birth to the sect thing.

Even the sahabas had diffeences in thier opinions however that is allowed in islam. Differences are not a bad thing and that is written in hadiths.

However, when people get to the point where they read something, think it is a certain way and tell other muslims they are wrong without really knowing everything fully. We have limits due to the positiona we are in spiritually, therefore certain things might not make sense to us but we think we understand. There are muslims who think homosexuality is ok in islam because they have misread things in the Quran. Their way of thinking was like yours. Y
:ashamed: i'm not saying we learn something and believe that it is THE right way of thinking and tell others to do it..
i'm not an advocate of forcing out opinions on others..
i'm saying..if thr's something that u think is not correctly interpreted..study the quran..find out the truth and imbibe it in urself..
in the end we have to answer for our ownselves on the day of judgement..

n the homosexuality thing is shyt..its clearly written in the quran that it's forbinned..Petra is a living testimony to what happened to the homosexuals and it says so in the Quran too..madain saleh too..
it;s fascinating :shock:

[khanbaba_]

that is why allah says find out the truth for urself..it's all in front of u in the quran..
u just have to read and find out and discover and imbibe..
no one can interpret our religions for us..we have to do it ourselves..
Wrong, thats how new fitnas and sects start when you leave the experts and start interpreting Quran your self. Quran says follow the experts and not your own desires.

[khanbaba_]

we're not talking about studying islam alone..
all i'm saying is who decides who's right who's wrong..what's wrong..
there are so many schools of thoughts..
what we have to do is interpret religion for ourselves..
a true muslim knows in his heart what is right..allah shows him..
u shud have the desire to know the correct path n allah guides u..righ?
So many? there areonly 4, and you are to only follow one. Dont worry about others. If every Muslim start interpreting Quran for himself, there will be more then 1 Billion different Islams. Hey next time you are sick, dont go see a doctor, just open some good medical book and be your own doctor since you can read. I mean why trust the experts of that field. If you need an advice on law, buy a law book, no need to go to lawyers.

[miss_khan]

STFU all ov you.


molvi - you know there are dumb ignorant uneducated people on here so why even bother justifying how beautiful Islam really is. leave it these people will never know.

[miss_khan]

i gotta say fratty your a clever guy to make this thread you knew what the outcome would be.

[cunninglinguist]

i gotta say fratty your a clever guy to make this thread you knew what the outcome would be.
that don't mean he's clever!
even i know once the word muslim is used in a thread the whole of RD will implode with opinions
i just choose better judgement
and let others do it

[niroism]

Well what he does will hardly ever have an impact on your life. I thought this was a secular country. Or is it only secular when it suits certain people?

walkaway-So basically what your saying is, some random singer who is rich married 3 women and that means hes a dumbass.

do you know him? Do you know his wives? what if they allowed it.

Also let me get this right, prince charles converts to islam and that means muslims will just start marrying 30 women n shit like that.

No wonder muslims don't give a fuck what you people have to say. You guys make no sense at all.Molvi....I find your sig very distasteful...I am one who belives in tolerance between all faiths....but I find it hypocritical if you throw a huge fuss over cartoons about Pophet Mhammed PBUH and then equate the pope as being equalt to some gruesome monster...That is just plain wrong and shows your ignorance!!

[cunninglinguist]

Molvi....I find your sig very distasteful...I am one who belives in tolerance between all faiths....but I find it hypocritical if you throw a huge fuss over cartoons about Pophet Mhammed PBUH and then equate the pope as being equalt to some gruesome monster...That is just plain wrong!!
it's only racism if it's aimed at islam

[miss_khan]

that don't mean he's clever!
even i know once the word muslim is used in a thread the whole of RD will implode with opinions
i just choose better judgement
and let others do it

clever in a sense of being tedious, a snake.

[miss_khan]

And Molvi, brother, you shouldnt get butthurt when people criticize your faith cause you're mocking someones leader.

Miss Khan, please read his debate in serious disccusion cause he is an extremist idiot.......... now calling everyone an emotional bitch when he got so emotional by pope's comment that he decided to have him in his sig. :lol:


he is sticking up for his faith that don't mean every muslim should be labelled "extremeist" anyhow the sig pic is offensive to people and should be removed.

[niroism]

it's only racism if it's aimed at islam
Itz just plain stupid!!

[miss_khan]

Amen


and I aint even catholic.

I think Angelno15 is catholic but she hasnt said a word against the prophet so guess who is getting butthurt.


she probably didnt know who it was, and yes she did get butt hurt and posted an offensive reply.

[niroism]

Amen


and I aint even catholic.

I think Angelno15 is catholic but she hasnt said a word against the prophet so guess who is getting butthurt.
I just hate hypocrites....practise what you preach is all I have to say!

Yeah..I am catholic as well!

[Ash_s2002]

I just hate hypocrites....practise what you preach is all I have to say!

Yeah..I am catholic as well!
Niro is always right

[Angelno15]

she probably didnt know who it was, and yes she did get butt hurt and posted an offensive reply.

My mum is catholic so of course I know who the pope is. Stop being so childish.

Nowhere did I say Islam is a bad religion. I just dont want the future head of the church converted so he neglects the churches needs. I dont understand why the muslims are so offended. If it was the other way around Id understand. Ive stuck up for Islam a million times on this site.

[niroism]

Niro is always right
LOL!! I know you always got my back...;)

[Ash_s2002]

LOL!! I know you always got my back...;)
hahah yeh...i agree with what youre saying...

[miss_khan]

My mum is catholic so of course I know who the pope is. Stop being so childish.

Nowhere did I say Islam is a bad religion. I just dont want the future head of the church converted so he neglects the churches needs. I dont understand why the muslims are so offended. If it was the other way around Id understand. Ive stuck up for Islam a million times on this site.


childish? fuck off.

[miss_khan]

No He sustains a fatwa agianst Rushdie who simply wrote a book. He should be killed for that and if you say molvi is keeping up to his faith then there is a problem with the faith I guess. What is the definition of extremism if I may ask?


simply just wrote a book? you can fuck off too.

[MolviCorleone]

Molvi....I find your sig very distasteful...I am one who belives in tolerance between all faiths....but I find it hypocritical if you throw a huge fuss over cartoons about Pophet Mhammed PBUH and then equate the pope as being equalt to some gruesome monster...That is just plain wrong and shows your ignorance!!

yeh, your pope is a goddamned prick for the things he said, doesnt deserve any respect. The last pope was a saint. This guy, I have no respect for.

[Ash_s2002]

yeh, your pope is a goddamned prick for the things he said, doesnt deserve any respect. The last pope was a saint. This guy, I have no respect for.
i really liked the last pope he was awesome

[Pakidoll82]

My mum is catholic so of course I know who the pope is. Stop being so childish.

Nowhere did I say Islam is a bad religion. I just dont want the future head of the church converted so he neglects the churches needs. I dont understand why the muslims are so offended. If it was the other way around Id understand. Ive stuck up for Islam a million times on this site.I don't understand either a couple of months ago I posted a story about this muslim lady who converted to christianity and I was cursed out and called all the worst names out there because I just posted a story....

a couple of nights ago I saw a Christmas thread and saw how some RD members hit the roof that non christian's celebrate Christmas....:no:

[Angelno15]

childish? fuck off.

Lol. How articulate. :p

[niroism]

yeh, your pope is a goddamned prick for the things he said, doesnt deserve any respect. The last pope was a saint. This guy, I have no respect for.
I am not even goin to try to argue you with your ignorance....itz people like you who give Islam a bad name...kthxbye!!

[niroism]

i really liked the last pope he was awesome
Did he send you christmas cards or something?:sarb:

[miss_khan]

Lol. How articulate. :p

my theory is there is no point talking to a brick wall.

[miss_khan]

I see....... you also proved how extremist Islam is. Good job so you support that fatwa too? No need to swear.


Islam = peace.



oh fuck off, just fuck off.

[Angelno15]

yeh, your pope is a goddamned prick for the things he said, doesnt deserve any respect. The last pope was a saint. This guy, I have no respect for.

You just said something that I find offensive but Im not gonna hit the roof and start calling you childish names. And your sig also offended me but I kept quiet and wasnt rude cos I dont care what you think of my religion and leaders. Wish others were the same.

[MolviCorleone]

And Molvi, brother, you shouldnt get butthurt when people criticize your faith cause you're mocking someones leader.

Miss Khan, please read his debate in serious disccusion cause he is an extremist idiot.......... now calling everyone an emotional bitch when he got so emotional by pope's comment that he decided to have him in his sig. :lol:

I'm no dummy, he never was in an islamic country therefore rushdie himself should not be killed. BUT a blasphemer living in a real Islamic state could be killed for blasphemy and if I would approve of it. Theres a difference between what im saying and what your saying. In the current light of things salman rushdie being killed would not be allowed Islamically.

keep talking utter shite Mr Joe Bloggs

[Angelno15]

my theory is there is no point talking to a brick wall.

WTF Im not a brick wall! Im open to some ideas of islam and not others. I have never in my argument said I am against Islam as a whole.

Whatever, some people are rude and not educuted enough for this conversation.

[niroism]

Is swearing allowed in Islam? Isnt that Blasphemous...?!?:sarb:

Why is it impossible to have a civil debate in this here forums...?

[jafferman]

You just said something that I find offensive but Im not gonna hit the roof and start calling you childish names. And your sig also offended me but I kept quiet and wasnt rude cos I dont care what you think of my religion and leaders. Wish others were the same.
How is what he said offensive when the pope said something retarded like he did?

[MolviCorleone]

You just said something that I find offensive but Im not gonna hit the roof and start calling you childish names. And your sig also offended me but I kept quiet and wasnt rude cos I dont care what you think of my religion and leaders. Wish others were the same.

no really, i'll take it off if you find it offensive but you guys shouldn't compare it to the cartoons of the Prophet. Whole different ball game.

[Ash_s2002]

Did he send you christmas cards or something?:sarb:
nahi yaara he was just a cooler guy..

[Angelno15]

How is what he said offensive when the pope said something retarded like he did?

The pope is a leader of my religion. He is a holy man and some dude is calling him a prick and then thinks Mohammed deserves more repect.

But Im not going to go mental. Hes entitled to say what he wants.

[miss_khan]

WTF Im not a brick wall! Im open to some ideas of islam and not others. I have never in my argument said I am against Islam as a whole.

Whatever, some people are rude and not educuted enough for this conversation.


:bored:

[miss_khan]

You're right......... you cant even compare that to the cartoons. This is worse. :lol:

:no: See this is why he doesnt wanna reason with you coz you just chat plain shit.

[miss_khan]

The pope is a leader of my religion. He is a holy man and some dude is calling him a prick and then thinks Mohammed deserves more repect.

But Im not going to go mental. Hes entitled to say what he wants.

correction = Mohammed (swt)

[MolviCorleone]

LOl.... your posts never make sense and you need to read my response to this statemnt in the Sd section cause I just posted in it. Blasphemer could.... or should be killed? Tell us what the law states.

meh, i will respond when i feel like it, you never have anything worth replying to,we go back in circles when you twist around what i say. How many times did i say it, IN AN ISLAMIC STATE. If the islamic state was in arabia and someone in USA wrote a book like salman rushdies, why would we kill him? doesnt make sense. Your obviously lacking the brain capacity to understand what i'm trying to say.

[miss_khan]

Is swearing allowed in Islam? Isnt that Blasphemous...?!?:sarb:

Why is it impossible to have a civil debate in this here forums...?


im swearing coz i feel like it? .. :p

im not gonna be civil with people who will never change views on my religion, there is no point.

[Angelno15]

no really, i'll take it off if you find it offensive but you guys shouldn't compare it to the cartoons of the Prophet. Whole different ball game.

Its up to you. I find it offensive but if you dont think theres anything wrong and you dont find it offensive then keep it. I believe in free speech.

Can I ask whats the difference in your sig and the cartoons. Im being dumb so could you explain?

[miss_khan]

lol @your sig molvi.


joe bloggs chats out his ass.

[jafferman]

The pope is a leader of my religion. He is a holy man and some dude is calling him a prick and then thinks Mohammed deserves more repect.

But Im not going to go mental. Hes entitled to say what he wants.
Who the pope or molvi, how do you justify what he said in the modern day era? why would he try appologise if he didnt realize he said something so retarded and stupid?

[Angelno15]

correction = Mohammed (swt)

eh?

Sweetie I change my views constantly whenever I learn anything new but so far from what Iv learnt there isnt anything to change my mind that I dont want the future head of state to convert. But your bored of me so you probably wont read this.

[MolviCorleone]

lol @your sig molvi.


joe bloggs chats out his ass.

yeh this is him right about now

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/6646/work4si.gif

[niroism]

im swearing coz i feel like it? .. :p

im not gonna be civil with people who will never change views on my religion, there is no point.
There will always be people who dont undastand....and when people are being ignorant itz just better not to stress yourself trying to prove them wrong!

Thanx for changing the sig Molvi!

[miss_khan]

eh?

Sweetie I change my views constantly whenever I learn anything new but so far from what Iv learnt there isnt anything to change my mind that I dont want the future head of state to convert. But your bored of me so you probably wont read this.

your right..


























i am bored. :D

[Angelno15]

Who the pope or molvi, how do you justify what he said in the modern day era? why would he try appologise if he didnt realize he said something so retarded and stupid?

I dont agree with the pope saying what he did in the modern day but I did read his whole speech and I think it was taken out of context and so did muslims scholars who read his speech. I can garuntee the people that were offendd di not read the entire speech. Please talk to me about whatever the pope said after you have read his speech.

[miss_khan]

yeh this is him right about now

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/6646/work4si.gif


LOL true that. i really do feel for him. ignore him bob he aint worth it.

[jafferman]

I dont agree with the pope saying what he did in the modern day but I did read his whole speech and I think it was taken out of context and so did muslims scholars who read his speech. I can garuntee the people that were offendd di not read the entire speech. Please talk to me about whatever the pope said after you have read his speech.
so im aloud to call the directly call the pope something but then slowly denounce that as my speech goes on?

[MolviCorleone]

Its up to you. I find it offensive but if you dont think theres anything wrong and you dont find it offensive then keep it. I believe in free speech.

Can I ask whats the difference in your sig and the cartoons. Im being dumb so could you explain?

The sig has no relfection on what I think about christians but only what i think of one man. Regardless, the intended audience would not look at it and start thinking all christians(or catholics) are a bunch of Darth Sidious's. It was more to do with the fact that they are lookalikes.

See for yourself
http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=darth+sidious&ei=UTF-8&fr=flk1&x=wrt
if you scroll down somewhere will be images of the pope.


The cartoons on the other hand indicate the Prophet was a terrorist and since we are his followers then we are all terrorists. Those cartoons incite religious hatred. There is a difference.

[Angelno15]

so im aloud to call the directly call the pope something but then slowly denounce that as my speech goes on?

If you think its ok to call him that then I wont gang up on you, but if you havent read the popes speech and I justify what he said you wont understand my argument.

To all those that didnt read the speech I understand why you would get upset especially because it was said in a time of such tension.

[jafferman]

lol shiet*
is that the picture everyones reffering to?

[MolviCorleone]

LOL true that. i really do feel for him. ignore him bob he aint worth it.

please, call me Kevin. Kevin Khan

it has a cool ring to it, no?

[miss_khan]

please, call me Kevin. Kevin Khan

it has a cool ring to it, no?

only if u call me kelly.

[niroism]

?
Is it just me or have people not heard about respect anymore...an eye for an eye makes the world go blind!! Jafferman...I am so disappointed with your post...!!

[MolviCorleone]

only if u call me kelly.

nah, i'll call you Patricia.

[Angelno15]

The sig has no relfection on what I think about christians but only what i think of one man. Regardless, the intended audience would not look at it and start thinking all christians(or catholics) are a bunch of Darth Sidious's. It was more to do with the fact that they are lookalikes.

See for yourself
http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=darth+sidious&ei=UTF-8&fr=flk1&x=wrt
if you scroll down somewhere will be images of the pope.


The cartoons on the other hand indicate the Prophet was a terrorist and since we are his followers then we are all terrorists. Those cartoons incite religious hatred. There is a difference.

Fair enough. I see what you mean now. I just took it that you were saying he is supposedly a good person but hes really evil (as he is in star wars) and the fact he looks like him is an added bonus.

I believe in freedom of speech that is why I didnt find think there should have been a fatwa but I unserstand why muslims were upset.

[jafferman]

Is it just me or have people not heard about respect anymore...an eye for an eye makes the world go blind!! Jafferman...I am so disappointed with your post...!!
lol shit i didnt mean it that way :|, my baaad i didnt make the picture someone else did..

[miss_khan]

nah, i'll call you Patricia.



patricia khan?!

kelly had more of a swing to it. :p

[niroism]

lol shit i didnt mean it that way :|, my baaad i didnt make the picture someone else did..
Thanx....

[Pakidoll82]

Dude, you're messing with my all ready messed reputaion among pakis on these forums. :lol:
*awaits comments that ur dating pakidoll82 and you hate pakis* :no:

[MolviCorleone]

BTW, why kevin? Man, you should name yourself....... Binladen Abdul karim Mohamed Ahmed Hussain. Yeah... that suits you better. :lol:

nah man, i wanna be all cool and 'modren' like you.

[miss_khan]

BTW, why kevin? Man, you should name yourself....... Binladen Abdul karim Mohamed Ahmed Hussain. Yeah... that suits you better. :lol:


mashallah beautiful name. :D

[MolviCorleone]

*awaits comments that ur dating pakidoll82 and you hate pakis* :no:


he said it not me

[miss_khan]

nah man, i wanna be all cool and 'modren' like you.



:lol:

[MolviCorleone]

Fair enough. I see what you mean now. I just took it that you were saying he is supposedly a good person but hes really evil (as he is in star wars) and the fact he looks like him is an added bonus.

I believe in freedom of speech that is why I didnt find think there should have been a fatwa but I unserstand why muslims were upset.

lol forget fatwas, those have thier time and place. The cartoons incite religious hatred so they could be banned under British law. However that is the thing, are they simply blasphemous and nothing more? (in which case there is no law agains tthat) or do they incite religious hatred. I think the latter.

[Pakidoll82]

he said it not me
the funny thing is mr truth5958 is pakistani himself :yes:

[cunninglinguist]

lol forget fatwas, those have thier time and place. The cartoons incite religious hatred so they could be banned under British law. However that is the thing, are they simply blasphemous and nothing more? (in which case there is no law agains tthat) or do they incite religious hatred. I think the latter.
there's always been satirical cartoons of jesus, moses etc. in various newspapers but there were never uproars against those
and, as boring as it is referring back to it, but the case in point, were the actions taken by various muslims in retaliation to the cartoons justified?

[miss_khan]

the funny thing is mr truth5958 is pakistani himself :yes:


:rofl: pwned by his own girl.

[Angelno15]

lol forget fatwas, those have thier time and place. The cartoons incite religious hatred so they could be banned under British law. However that is the thing, are they simply blasphemous and nothing more? (in which case there is no law agains tthat) or do they incite religious hatred. I think the latter.

I think this is where we will agree to disagree because I do think they were blasphemous and nothing more and should never have caused the commoton that it did.

[cunninglinguist]

What? LOL ... who said having those funny names is being backward? :lol: You hit an ax on your own foot.
i would've gone for shot himself in the foot
so you're pakistani
i love irony

[SillyKitty]

Lol. You guys wish.

If Prince Charles converts Im moving back to India.
Ha wtff..

u hate islam so much :rofl: thats stupiddd

[SillyKitty]

i would've gone for shot himself in the foot
so you're pakistani
i love irony
He is a paki Christian

no irony ther

[miss_khan]

He is a paki Christian

no irony ther



yes it is. check molvi carleone's sig.

[cunninglinguist]

He is a paki Christian

no irony ther
refer to molvi's sig

[cunninglinguist]

yes it is. check molvi carleone's sig.
merci beaucoup mon belle fille

[Angelno15]

Ha wtff..

u hate islam so much :rofl: thats stupiddd

Lol. I dont hate Islam but Im starting to hate some of its followers.....only joking.

[SillyKitty]

I just hate hypocrites....practise what you preach is all I have to say!

Yeah..I am catholic as well!
Nope he deserves it 100%

why cant we critisize people who deserve it? oh so .. we Muslims are gona take all shit..

and we supposed to just keep silent? oh well.. i guess u are right..


cuz every one hates Islam now.. we are out numbered.. and what ever the majority says goes :D

[MolviCorleone]

there's always been satirical cartoons of jesus, moses etc. in various newspapers but there were never uproars against those
and, as boring as it is referring back to it, but the case in point, were the actions taken by various muslims in retaliation to the cartoons justified?

no of course not. The people rioting over it just made us all look bad. They should concentrate on proving to people they mean no harm rather than rioting.

However again a big difference between blasphemy and inciting religious hatred. Cartoons like the danish ones would only lead to hatred against muslims.
Cartoons of Jesus usually don't do anything like that. Besides, there are images of Jesus, statues everywhere(to me as a muslim even that is wrong)

[SillyKitty]

Lol. I dont hate Islam but Im starting to hate some of its followers.....only joking.
I can see how it was a joke in every aspect.. :rofl:

[miss_khan]

merci beaucoup mon belle fille


your very welcome huni.

[SillyKitty]

refer to molvi's sig
Hmm so what?

his Hatred for Islam has surpassed his liking (not even gonna say LOVE ) for his country..

[Angelno15]

Nope he deserves it 100%

why cant we critisize people who deserve it? oh so .. we Muslims are gona take all shit..

and we supposed to just keep silent? oh well.. i guess u are right..


cuz every one hates Islam now.. we are out numbered.. and what ever the majority says goes :D

Lol thats definately one thing muslims dont do. They definately stick up for what they believe, may it be protests, fatwa, killings, childish name calling in threads :p etc.

You're allowed your own opinion on RD. Say what you want.

[SillyKitty]

yes it is. check molvi carleone's sig.

still i dont see it.. if i .. by any chance .. was born in Israel.. i would still have the same feelings.. just like he does.. :neutral:

[SillyKitty]

Lol thats definately one thing muslims dont do. They definately stick up for what they believe, may it be protests, fatwa, killings, childish name calling in threads :p etc.

You're allowed your own opinion on RD. Say what you want.


lol.. well yu didnt get me..

you guys EXPECT us.. to keep silent.. because.. when we DO say what we HAVE to.. and have a RIGHT to..

you guys go on callin us Terrorists.. etc etc blah blah..

and yes i would say what i want.. and what i said is 100% correct.. :D

[MolviCorleone]

I think this is where we will agree to disagree because I do think they were blasphemous and nothing more and should never have caused the commoton that it did.

anything which suggests muslims are terrorists incites religious hatred. The cartoons went a long way in suggesting that.

The creators would naturally claim otherwise because they don't want thier cartoon banned and I think they were more of an experiment to find out what direction secular countries are going. In the UK the new laws in which incitement to religious hatred is illegal themselves were controversial because people say 'well if they make that illegal then we have no opinion' but they have to draw a line somewhere. If a bunch of people began insulting your mother would you allow it and say 'well its free speech innit' or would you try doing something about it?

[miss_khan]

lol.. well yu didnt get me..

you guys EXPECT us.. to keep silent.. because.. when we DO say what we HAVE to.. and have a RIGHT to..

you guys go on callin us Terrorists.. etc etc blah blah..

and yes i would say what i want.. and what i said is 100% correct.. :D


exactly. then we are extremists. :no:

[MolviCorleone]

Ha wtff..

u hate islam so much :rofl: thats stupiddd

I don't think she does you know. A hater would be Mr Jason AntiPaki himself.

[cunninglinguist]

no of course not. The people rioting over it just made us all look bad. They should concentrate on proving to people they mean no harm rather than rioting.

However again a big difference between blasphemy and inciting religious hatred. Cartoons like the danish ones would only lead to hatred against muslims.
Cartoons of Jesus usually don't do anything like that. Besides, there are images of Jesus, statues everywhere(to me as a muslim even that is wrong)
i agree that depicting the prophet when it is well documented he is not to be shown to have any form (something i only learnt this year :neutral: ) with bombs is beyond a political dig, but the situation will always be looked at with the consequences in mind, and with hindsight it's islam that is villified.
and satirical cartoons are meant to be demeaning, regardless of the topic in question, but i certainly don't think they lead to hatred by it's readers. religion will always lead to such problems but it's upto the followers of the faiths to rise above the differences and acknowledge humanity and not use violence as a means to "defend" themselves.

[cunninglinguist]

Hmm so what?

his Hatred for Islam has surpassed his liking (not even gonna say LOVE ) for his country..
ok
do you know what irony is?
when you've lost an argument just accept it, it doesn't make you a lesser person

[Angelno15]

lol.. well yu didnt get me..

you guys EXPECT us.. to keep silent.. because.. when we DO say what we HAVE to.. and have a RIGHT to..

you guys go on callin us Terrorists.. etc etc blah blah..

and yes i would say what i want.. and what i said is 100% correct.. :D

I think you have the right to lobby in parliament and protests. Its basic human rights

I think those who issued fatwas and kill nuns are extremist. (Before anybody says anything I understand this is only a small minority.

[MolviCorleone]

I think you have the right to lobby in parliament and protests. Its basic human rights

I think those who issued fatwas and kill nuns are extremist. (Before anybody says anything I understand this is only a small minority.

spot on.

[jafferman]

....

[SillyKitty]

exactly. then we are extremists. :no:
:lol: exactitudelyy


oh well.. that just confirms ONE thing for sure ;)

Islam Definitly IS the ONE true religion..

cuz come on



Hindus.. hate it
Christians .. hate it
Jews.. Despise it..

and they like eachother..
but guess what..

only ONE religion is supposed to go to heaven.. cuz.. Hindus belive.. they will go to heaven.. and no one else..

Christians belive.. u gotta take Jesus as ur saviour or u are goin to HELL

and jews.. lol i am not even gonna go there..




so.. if they are all united.. and only ONE is supposed to go to heaven.. it doesnt add up..




that leaves.. ISLAM ..

and we have it in every book.. that only a fraction would go to heaven..


and its like that always that the good guys always win at the end :lol:

[MolviCorleone]

i agree that depicting the prophet when it is well documented he is not to be shown to have any form (something i only learnt this year :neutral: ) with bombs is beyond a political dig, but the situation will always be looked at with the consequences in mind, and with hindsight it's islam that is villified.
and satirical cartoons are meant to be demeaning, regardless of the topic in question, but i certainly don't think they lead to hatred by it's readers. religion will always lead to such problems but it's upto the followers of the faiths to rise above the differences and acknowledge humanity and not use violence as a means to "defend" themselves.

yup i do agree with the last bit. But nevertheless i beleive given the current climate with the events around the world this cartoon creates more hatred against muslims to the point where people now actually beleive that indeed all muslims are terrorists. However we should be above that and should be able to prove people otherwise. It doesn't help when muslims in some places think one way and muslims in other places think another way.

[MolviCorleone]

....

err maham

[cunninglinguist]

:lol: exactitudelyy


oh well.. that just confirms ONE thing for sure ;)

Islam Definitly IS the ONE true religion..

cuz come on



Hindus.. hate it
Christians .. hate it
Jews.. Despise it..

and they like eachother..
but guess what..

only ONE religion is supposed to go to heaven.. cuz.. Hindus belive.. they will go to heaven.. and no one else..

Christians belive.. u gotta take Jesus as ur saviour or u are goin to HELL

and jews.. lol i am not even gonna go there..




so.. if they are all united.. and only ONE is supposed to go to heaven.. it doesnt add up..




that leaves.. ISLAM ..

and we have it in every book.. that only a fraction would go to heaven..


and its like that always that the good guys always win at the end :lol:
keep such lame beliefs to yourself for the sake of humanity

[Angelno15]

anything which suggests muslims are terrorists incites religious hatred. The cartoons went a long way in suggesting that.

The creators would naturally claim otherwise because they don't want thier cartoon banned and I think they were more of an experiment to find out what direction secular countries are going. In the UK the new laws in which incitement to religious hatred is illegal themselves were controversial because people say 'well if they make that illegal then we have no opinion' but they have to draw a line somewhere. If a bunch of people began insulting your mother would you allow it and say 'well its free speech innit' or would you try doing something about it?

Yes I do think we have to draw the line and ok maybe the cartoons should have been banned but only because of how the muslims would and did react not because it incited racial hatred.

There are certain things should and are made illiegal such as Abu Hamza's speeches and the NF speeches but stuff like the Jerry Springer show (which caused offence to many christians as it depicted Jesus as gay) I did not agree with the outrage caused as with the cartoons.

[SillyKitty]

ok
do you know what irony is?
when you've lost an argument just accept it, it doesn't make you a lesser person
I do know what it is.. he is a paki and he wants his kind to get wiped off..


and if i was an israeli.. i would feel the same..



so its not an irony to me atleast.

[cunninglinguist]

....
was that an attempt at comedy..?

[jafferman]

err maham
im bored :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[SillyKitty]

I don't think she does you know. A hater would be Mr Jason AntiPaki himself.

And who would THAT be? i mean who is jason

[jafferman]

was that an attempt at comedy..?
nope, its just dots... lol

[cunninglinguist]

I do know what it is.. he is a paki and he wants his kind to get wiped off..


and if i was an israeli.. i would feel the same..



so its not an irony to me atleast.
and what you say goes?
how old are you exactly?

[SillyKitty]

keep such lame beliefs to yourself for the sake of humanity


was i even talkin to u?.. just dont read the posts.. and try not to waste ur or my time



and surely what ever we say about our beliefs would be lame to u.. so.. why even bother?

[jafferman]

on a side note: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v79vYzVIMQ

[SillyKitty]

and what you say goes?
how old are you exactly?
yes what ever i say goes.. :lol:

and what u care what i say

u just stay with your anti Islamic thoughts

[Angelno15]

:lol: exactitudelyy


oh well.. that just confirms ONE thing for sure ;)

Islam Definitly IS the ONE true religion..

cuz come on



Hindus.. hate it
Christians .. hate it
Jews.. Despise it..

and they like eachother..
but guess what..

only ONE religion is supposed to go to heaven.. cuz.. Hindus belive.. they will go to heaven.. and no one else..

Christians belive.. u gotta take Jesus as ur saviour or u are goin to HELL

and jews.. lol i am not even gonna go there..




so.. if they are all united.. and only ONE is supposed to go to heaven.. it doesnt add up..




that leaves.. ISLAM ..

and we have it in every book.. that only a fraction would go to heaven..


and its like that always that the good guys always win at the end :lol:

:p Im not even going to start.

[SillyKitty]

:p Im not even going to start.
dont.. cuz it wasnt ment for you..



but u knw its right

[cunninglinguist]

yup i do agree with the last bit. But nevertheless i beleive given the current climate with the events around the world this cartoon creates more hatred against muslims to the point where people now actually beleive that indeed all muslims are terrorists. However we should be above that and should be able to prove people otherwise. It doesn't help when muslims in some places think one way and muslims in other places think another way.
the cartoon was ill-timed, there's no denying this, but the the last part of what you said, that's exactly the problem. communication and transparency of the faith is vital if the world is to understand islam

[Pakidoll82]

I do know what it is.. he is a paki and he wants his kind to get wiped off..


and if i was an israeli.. i would feel the same..



so its not an irony to me atleast.
In Pakistan, Paki Christian's are looked down a upon and not even considered Pakistani since it's majority follows Islam, most of the Pakistani Christian's in Pakistan have migrated from India etc...therfore the unfair treatment of Pakistani Christians causes dislike or even hate

[cunninglinguist]

nope, its just dots... lol
hilarious
you shoulda just left it there

[SillyKitty]

any ways.. i m gonna go and do some shopping.. and later on go watch dhoom 2..

go on with ur Islam hating.. and biting ur own hands.. whenever a person converts to Islam..













even if its a rumor..

[jafferman]

hilarious
you shoulda just left it there
i know eh

[cunninglinguist]

yes what ever i say goes.. :lol:

and what u care what i say

u just stay with your anti Islamic thoughts
oh i'm sorry, if i have views on islam that do not correspond with your own thus i'm anti-islam
it's EXACTLY this mindset that pisses 99.9% of people off
you are way too childish to have a decent conversation with
let's leave it here

[SillyKitty]

In Pakistan, Paki Christian's are looked down a upon and not even considered Pakistani since it's majority follows Islam, most of the Pakistani Christian's in Pakistan have migrated from India etc...therfore the unfair treatment of Pakistani Christians causes dislike or even hate
I m sorry.. some people are just uneducated.. and/or biased..

[SillyKitty]

oh i'm sorry, if i have views on islam that do not correspond with your own thus i'm anti-islam
it's EXACTLY this mindset that pisses 99.9% of people off
you are way too childish to have a decent conversation with
let's leave it here


the whole site is mostly anti Islamic.. what u want me to say?




i ddint read ur posts..
so i wouldnt know..


any ways.. if u are not.. then Cheerss..


bye

[MolviCorleone]

And who would THAT be? i mean who is jason


the secular guy who is not an extremist.

the guy in my sig

[cunninglinguist]

was i even talkin to u?.. just dont read the posts.. and try not to waste ur or my time



and surely what ever we say about our beliefs would be lame to u.. so.. why even bother?
have you even heard of humility?
or even being humble?
stop trying to be a spokesperson for islam, you're just a kid

[Angelno15]

dont.. cuz it wasnt ment for you..



but u knw its right

Is anybody else speechless by her??!!!! :p

Even though I agreed with nothing she said and it made no sense I think I love her.

[Angelno15]

:lol: exactitudelyy


oh well.. that just confirms ONE thing for sure ;)

Islam Definitly IS the ONE true religion..

cuz come on



Hindus.. hate it
Christians .. hate it
Jews.. Despise it..

and they like eachother..
but guess what..

only ONE religion is supposed to go to heaven.. cuz.. Hindus belive.. they will go to heaven.. and no one else..

Christians belive.. u gotta take Jesus as ur saviour or u are goin to HELL

and jews.. lol i am not even gonna go there..




so.. if they are all united.. and only ONE is supposed to go to heaven.. it doesnt add up..




that leaves.. ISLAM ..

and we have it in every book.. that only a fraction would go to heaven..


and its like that always that the good guys always win at the end :lol:

And how can this one say that and get away with it and I cant say I dont want the future head of the church to convert.

[cunninglinguist]

the whole site is mostly anti Islamic.. what u want me to say?




i ddint read ur posts..
so i wouldnt know..


any ways.. if u are not.. then Cheerss..


bye
you are quite possibly the stupidest person on this whole website
well done

[niroism]

Nope he deserves it 100%

why cant we critisize people who deserve it? oh so .. we Muslims are gona take all shit..

and we supposed to just keep silent? oh well.. i guess u are right..


cuz every one hates Islam now.. we are out numbered.. and what ever the majority says goes :D
My quote was pointed at the hypocrites....No religion was even mentioned in the post...yet religion is brought in to the subject again....!!:neutral:

[foreverconfused]

:lol: exactitudelyy


oh well.. that just confirms ONE thing for sure ;)

Islam Definitly IS the ONE true religion..

cuz come on



Hindus.. hate it
Christians .. hate it
Jews.. Despise it..

and they like eachother..
but guess what..

only ONE religion is supposed to go to heaven.. cuz.. Hindus belive.. they will go to heaven.. and no one else..

Christians belive.. u gotta take Jesus as ur saviour or u are goin to HELL

and jews.. lol i am not even gonna go there..




so.. if they are all united.. and only ONE is supposed to go to heaven.. it doesnt add up..




that leaves.. ISLAM ..

and we have it in every book.. that only a fraction would go to heaven..


and its like that always that the good guys always win at the end :lol:

Are you joking, or are you really this dumb?

[Pakidoll82]

Are you joking, or are you really this dumb?:applause::lol:

[MolviCorleone]

And how can this one say that and get away with it and I cant say I dont want the future head of the church to convert.

because she is off her head

[yeeee]

http://www.meforum.org/article/356
Well supposedly. He converted to Islam back in the 90s. A mufti of Cyprus said he did. He does admire Islam quite a bit.
i HATE prince charles damn CHEATER :mad:

[yeeee]

Lol thats definately one thing muslims dont do. They definately stick up for what they believe, may it be protests, fatwa, killings, childish name calling in threads :p etc.

You're allowed your own opinion on RD. Say what you want.
i agree with you..

[yeeee]

:lol: exactitudelyy


oh well.. that just confirms ONE thing for sure ;)

Islam Definitly IS the ONE true religion..

cuz come on



Hindus.. hate it
Christians .. hate it
Jews.. Despise it..

and they like eachother..
but guess what..

only ONE religion is supposed to go to heaven.. cuz.. Hindus belive.. they will go to heaven.. and no one else..

Christians belive.. u gotta take Jesus as ur saviour or u are goin to HELL

and jews.. lol i am not even gonna go there..




so.. if they are all united.. and only ONE is supposed to go to heaven.. it doesnt add up..




that leaves.. ISLAM ..

and we have it in every book.. that only a fraction would go to heaven..


and its like that always that the good guys always win at the end :lol:


:rofl: thanks for giving me a good laugh'

you act like those are the ONLY religions...
i would be ashamed if i were u, your a disgrace 2 muslims

[desi_uk]

why is this thread in useless and junk

i see a trend here

[desi_uk]

Forget fatwas? :lol: So how many muslims support fatwa on my head? :rofl: :rofl: I criticized the faith more than anyone you’ve ever seen or met or read about? :rofl: Cartoons don’t incite religious hatered dude and you’re slow. How can a “cartoon” incite religious hatered?I’m a non muslim and I never hated on anybody in my life. Those cartoons were published to crack you up and not incite religious hatered and if you think it does then there is nothing we can do about it. You’rebasically justifying the actions of your fellow dumbass brethren ---like you always do--- who created fuss over those cartoons. Let me tell you something…….there are far more better ways to incite religous hate than those cartoons and your mullahs who preach hat in mosques are a perfect example of that.
go eat shit dumb fuck

for once spew your hate somewhere else

and leave us muslims alone

[desi_uk]

Edit: Listen prick, who is hating? slow...... are we? Dont use BS language cause I have decided to refrain from using it... so try and watch your words.
you are, spew youre hate somewhere else

Islamaphobic cunt

this was meant to be an appreciation thread until wankers like you come along with their crap and start a big fight

now sling youre hook!

[Angelno15]

go eat shit dumb fuck

for once spew your hate somewhere else

and leave us muslims alone

Dude chill.......no-one is spewing hate. Like pakidoll said when she posted a story about an islamic woman converting to Islam muslims were offended and were rude to her. Why cant people of other relgions do that.

Its not fair how theres one rule for muslims on RD and another for he diferent faiths.

[desi_uk]

Dude chill.......no-one is spewing hate. Like pakidoll said when she posted a story about an islamic woman converting to Islam muslims were offended and were rude to her. Why cant people of other relgions do that.

Its not fair how theres one rule for muslims on RD and another for he diferent faiths.
hes dissing us
anyone got a problem with us muslims and the way we are can do one
for once enough of the muslim bashing its really getting boring and predictable

come on people lets move on

[Pakidoll82]

Dude chill.......no-one is spewing hate. Like pakidoll said when she posted a story about an islamic woman converting to Islam muslims were offended and were rude to her. Why cant people of other relgions do that.

Its not fair how theres one rule for muslims on RD and another for he diferent faiths.:werd:

I love how we have educated women on the forums such as u and foreverconfused !!! love u two!!! reading both your posts makes being at RD worth it!!! :grouphug:

[Angelno15]

:werd:

I love how we have educated women on the forums such as u and foreverconfused !!! love u two!!! reading both your posts makes being at RD worth it!!! :grouphug:

Aaww hun thank you! And Im gad we have women who actually take the time to read my posts and are able to make decisions after taking into account the debate that is presented to them.

Love you too. :grouphug:

[foreverconfused]

:werd:

I love how we have educated women on the forums such as u and foreverconfused !!! love u two!!! reading both your posts makes being at RD worth it!!! :grouphug:

Aww thanks! love you too :grouphug: