pathetic palestinians continue using kids as pawns

[sameer]

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=540&u=/ap/20040324/ap_on_re_mi_ea/palestinians_young_bomber_11&printer=1

what kind of people encourage their children to risk their lives? are they that crazy? and even worse they tell their children that they are doing it in the name of their god. but of course this is nothing new, palestinans love putting their kids up near the front lines, and especially to throw rocks at israeli soldiers which only increases their chances of being hurt (what if some palestinian mad man fires at the soldiers from the crowd, an israeli would be justified to shoot back, which might endanger the kids, but of course thats why the kids were placed there, to draw pity when they get hurt)

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040324/i/r2904507798.jpg

caption: A Palestinian boy who was caught with an explosive belt is guarded by Israeli soldiers at the checkpoint at the entrance to the Palestinian West Bank city of Nablus, March 24, 2004. Israeli troops arrested the 14-year-old boy Palestinian would-be suicide bomber at a West Bank checkpoint before he could detonate his explosive belt, the army said. REUTERS/ Nir Elias

[kawiboy]

ofcourse, all these stories are made up...


March 17, 2004 -- A Palestinian boy was back in school yesterday, denying he tried to smuggle a bag full of explosives past a West Bank checkpoint. "These people [the Israeli army] are liars," Abdullah Quraan said. "I don't believe them, and if it was a bomb, they would not have let me go so easily."

The sixth-grader was briefly detained by Israeli troops near Nablus on Monday when he was found to be carrying a bomb backpack.

Heartless Palestinian terrorists tried to use a cell phone meant to trigger the bomb after the boy was stopped by suspicious Israeli soldiers at the checkpoint, but it failed to set off the explosives.

Israeli security officials said the boy was paid to carry the bag and was not aware it contained a bomb, which would have likely killed him along with Israeli soldiers if it had gone off.

"It is really disgusting that a . . . boy without his knowledge becomes a guinea pig," said Maj. Sharon Feingold, an army spokeswoman.

Abdullah, who said he is 11, not 10 as reported Monday, said he routinely carries people's belongings across the Hawara checkpoint and can earn $4.50 on a good day. He said he ran ahead of a crowd of other kids on Monday in order to be hired by two unidentified men looking for a messenger.



The first deadly Palestinian attack on a strategic target in more than three years of fighting sent Israeli officials scrambling to discover security breaches.

The bombers, a pair of 17-year-old high school students from a Gaza refugee camp, apparently managed to slip through the heavily patrolled Gaza border fence, evaded tight security at Ashdod port and used high-grade plastic explosives.

Two militant groups, Hamas and the Al Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigade, claimed joint responsibility and said the bombing was ushering in a deadlier phase in the current round of fighting



Brainwashed kids, yeah the future looks bright for their children, Palestinian mothers gotta wear shades!

http://www.honestreporting.com/images/kidsmarch.jpg
http://www.honestreporting.com/images/palmother.jpg

[PoshNor]

Yup, sad indeed. but what difference is it if a 15 yr old blows them self up or a 15 yr old Israeli is FORCED BY LAW to join the army? they both go with the notion that they will most probably face death. i personally dont like the idea of sending children anywhere near the front lines, whatever country they may be from. but reality is reality and its time everybody faces it.

[kawiboy]

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/03/24/teenbomber_20040324


No one claimed responsibility for the incident, but the boy was identified by neighbours as Hussam Abdo.

The boy's brother said he was mentally slow.


No, really?!

[punjabi_mundaa]

In wars, 15-year olds are no longer kids...they are going to defend their country and more importantly their religion...until Israeli terrorism doesn't stop, the palestinians will use all means necessary..

** I Dont support suicide attacks on civilians but i do on soldiers and military posts.

[sameer]

Yup, sad indeed. but what difference is it if a 15 yr old blows them self up or a 15 yr old Israeli is FORCED BY LAW to join the army? they both go with the notion that they will most probably face death. i personally dont like the idea of sending children anywhere near the front lines, whatever country they may be from. but reality is reality and its time everybody faces it.

no 15 year old israelie is forced by law to join the army. and israelis dont go into the army with the notion they will probably die. as much as the palestians try to kill them, they just arent that good at it.

[NumbaOneStunna]

Well isreal kills 15 year olds everyday during attacks on residential districts in gaza and west bank and now all of a sudden kids taking part in this joke of a war is a big deal. What hypocrisy israel, good job

[sameer]

so those misfacts explain why palestinian parents are cold enough to send their children to the front lines? ok well whatever.

[bill]

misfacts?

[sameer]

yes i called up my friend at CNN and quoted NumbaOneStunna to him and he told me it was all misfacts :wink:

[bill]

yes i called up my friend at CNN and quoted NumbaOneStunna to him and he told me it was all misfacts :wink:

You = t3h suq at wit

For a guy that accuses others of posting things and not backing it up, why don't you back up your claim of "misfacts" for everyone?

[sameer]

no it doesnt work that way. he says israel kills 15 year olds everyday during attacks on residential districts in gaza and west bank. hes the one who should back that up

[bill]

no it doesnt work that way. he says israel kills 15 year olds everyday during attacks on residential districts in gaza and west bank. hes the one who should back that up

If it's a fact that Israel attacked Gaza which is a residential area (which I'm assuming it is) then it follows that there are at least some 14-17 year olds there. It's not a "misfact", it's logical inference.

[NumbaOneStunna]

"The dead included 10 militants and three boys under 16 years old. Almost 100 people were wounded. "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3541285.stm

Sameer not my fault you only get your news from zionism.com

[bill]

"The dead included 10 militants and three boys under 16 years old. Almost 100 people were wounded. "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3541285.stm

Sameer not my fault you only get your news from zionism.com

Now it's not even logical inference, it's proven fact. Pwned.

[angrynacho]

You know, you guys cry and bitch when a kid is used as a bomb.

But really, is that where your heart is at? Be real. You don't give two shits about the kids in India being used as child labor to make your carpets. Face it, don't give me that bullshit.

You think it is any better that a 15-year-old is getting killed? Suddenly when you're 18, you're worthy to be killed?

A lot of you talk like Israelis aren't brainwashed. I have a Jewish 'acquaintence'. Stupid bitch is fuckin' 14-years-old and already says that she doesn't want to go to college after high school... where is her heart at? THE IDF.

Yeah, what *kind* of people would exploit kids? If you cared at all about that kid, you'd care about his struggle.

[sameer]

no it doesnt work that way. he says israel kills 15 year olds everyday during attacks on residential districts in gaza and west bank. hes the one who should back that up

If it's a fact that Israel attacked Gaza which is a residential area (which I'm assuming it is) then it follows that there are at least some 14-17 year olds there. It's not a "misfact", it's logical inference.

i didnt say that 15 year olds arent killed, its just not as often as u make it out to be. english. read it.

[bill]

no it doesnt work that way. he says israel kills 15 year olds everyday during attacks on residential districts in gaza and west bank. hes the one who should back that up

If it's a fact that Israel attacked Gaza which is a residential area (which I'm assuming it is) then it follows that there are at least some 14-17 year olds there. It's not a "misfact", it's logical inference.

i didnt say that 15 year olds arent killed, its just not as often as u make it out to be. english. read it.

"misfacts"

English. Use it.

[dj XeNo]

don't believe the hype, its not real 8)

[sameer]

no it doesnt work that way. he says israel kills 15 year olds everyday during attacks on residential districts in gaza and west bank. hes the one who should back that up

If it's a fact that Israel attacked Gaza which is a residential area (which I'm assuming it is) then it follows that there are at least some 14-17 year olds there. It's not a "misfact", it's logical inference.

i didnt say that 15 year olds arent killed, its just not as often as u make it out to be. english. read it.

"misfacts"

English. Use it.

i did that on purpose tho :)

[PoshNor]

You know, you guys cry and bitch when a kid is used as a bomb.

But really, is that where your heart is at? Be real. You don't give two shits about the kids in India being used as child labor to make your carpets. Face it, don't give me that bullshit.

You think it is any better that a 15-year-old is getting killed? Suddenly when you're 18, you're worthy to be killed?

A lot of you talk like Israelis aren't brainwashed. I have a Jewish 'acquaintence'. Stupid bitch is fuckin' 14-years-old and already says that she doesn't want to go to college after high school... where is her heart at? THE IDF.

Yeah, what *kind* of people would exploit kids? If you cared at all about that kid, you'd care about his struggle.

yup, u are so right.

its like if a mother in america stays home to take care of her kids, she's doing good. BUT, if a mother in say, iran, stays home to take care of her kids, she's being oppressed.

double standard, yup.

[punjabi_mundaa]

Israel is a terrorist state..and India shouldn't be conspiring with them against the Muslim Ummah.....the Israeli army doesn't only kill 15 year olds but infants too

[sameer]

You know, you guys cry and bitch when a kid is used as a bomb.

But really, is that where your heart is at? Be real. You don't give two shits about the kids in India being used as child labor to make your carpets. Face it, don't give me that bullshit.

You think it is any better that a 15-year-old is getting killed? Suddenly when you're 18, you're worthy to be killed?

A lot of you talk like Israelis aren't brainwashed. I have a Jewish 'acquaintence'. Stupid bitch is fuckin' 14-years-old and already says that she doesn't want to go to college after high school... where is her heart at? THE IDF.

Yeah, what *kind* of people would exploit kids? If you cared at all about that kid, you'd care about his struggle.

yup, u are so right.

its like if a mother in america stays home to take care of her kids, she's doing good. BUT, if a mother in say, iran, stays home to take care of her kids, she's being oppressed.

double standard, yup.

but then we find out that this mother in iran was forced to stay home to take care of her kids. and that she was not allowed to receive an education as a girl, so even if she was allowed to go work, she could not get a decent job anyway

[paulie walnuts]

http://www.honestreporting.com/images/kidsmarch.jpg



now this is FU.CKED up. and they complain about kids being killed?

[PoshNor]

You know, you guys cry and bitch when a kid is used as a bomb.

But really, is that where your heart is at? Be real. You don't give two shits about the kids in India being used as child labor to make your carpets. Face it, don't give me that bullshit.

You think it is any better that a 15-year-old is getting killed? Suddenly when you're 18, you're worthy to be killed?

A lot of you talk like Israelis aren't brainwashed. I have a Jewish 'acquaintence'. Stupid bitch is fuckin' 14-years-old and already says that she doesn't want to go to college after high school... where is her heart at? THE IDF.

Yeah, what *kind* of people would exploit kids? If you cared at all about that kid, you'd care about his struggle.

yup, u are so right.

its like if a mother in america stays home to take care of her kids, she's doing good. BUT, if a mother in say, iran, stays home to take care of her kids, she's being oppressed.

double standard, yup.

but then we find out that this mother in iran was forced to stay home to take care of her kids. and that she was not allowed to receive an education as a girl, so even if she was allowed to go work, she could not get a decent job anyway
how is that proved???

[samir]

Israel is a terrorist state..and India shouldn't be conspiring with them against the Muslim Ummah.....the Israeli army doesn't only kill 15 year olds but infants too


actually india should be doing just that, to piss you fanatical muslims off :lol:

[paulie walnuts]

Israel is a terrorist state..and India shouldn't be conspiring with them against the Muslim Ummah.....the Israeli army doesn't only kill 15 year olds but infants too

Firstly, they arent doing anything of the kind. They are creating military alliances. Presumably to fight pakistanis. If you think that the pakistani army represents the muslim Ummah, then you would be right, and the muslim Ummah is pathetic.

But lets assume that they are actually conspiring against muslims. Whats wrong? Muslims see both jews and hindus as kafir enemies. India is by and large a hindu country. Its only natural that 2 parties join together against a common enemy, right?

[PoshNor]

Israel is a terrorist state..and India shouldn't be conspiring with them against the Muslim Ummah.....the Israeli army doesn't only kill 15 year olds but infants too

Firstly, they arent doing anything of the kind. They are creating military alliances. Presumably to fight pakistanis. If you think that the pakistani army represents the muslim Ummah, then you would be right, and the muslim Ummah is pathetic.

But lets assume that they are actually conspiring against muslims. Whats wrong? Muslims see both jews and hindus as kafir enemies. India is by and large a hindu country. Its only natural that 2 parties join together against a common enemy, right?

great another idiot to add to the collection.

kafir. do u even know what that word means? Jews aren't kafirs.

So ur saying India is a hindu country? hmm, didnt redefine(adrenaline) used to argue that india IS NOT a hindu country?? i remember. anyways, there are muslims in india that hold government jobs. my dad's uncle was president of India. the current president of India is muslim. so how are u gonna say its a HINDU country??

[punjabi_mundaa]

Israel is a terrorist state..and India shouldn't be conspiring with them against the Muslim Ummah.....the Israeli army doesn't only kill 15 year olds but infants too

Firstly, they arent doing anything of the kind. They are creating military alliances. Presumably to fight pakistanis. If you think that the pakistani army represents the muslim Ummah, then you would be right, and the muslim Ummah is pathetic.

But lets assume that they are actually conspiring against muslims. Whats wrong? Muslims see both jews and hindus as kafir enemies. India is by and large a hindu country. Its only natural that 2 parties join together against a common enemy, right?

sometimes you say India is a free, secular society while on the other hand you say it is a majority run theocracy where the significant (muslim) population is not given a say in the government.

[paulie walnuts]

Israel is a terrorist state..and India shouldn't be conspiring with them against the Muslim Ummah.....the Israeli army doesn't only kill 15 year olds but infants too

Firstly, they arent doing anything of the kind. They are creating military alliances. Presumably to fight pakistanis. If you think that the pakistani army represents the muslim Ummah, then you would be right, and the muslim Ummah is pathetic.

But lets assume that they are actually conspiring against muslims. Whats wrong? Muslims see both jews and hindus as kafir enemies. India is by and large a hindu country. Its only natural that 2 parties join together against a common enemy, right?


great another idiot to add to the collection.

kafir. do u even know what that word means? Jews aren't kafirs.

So ur saying India is a hindu country? hmm, didnt redefine(adrenaline) used to argue that india IS NOT a hindu country?? i remember. anyways, there are muslims in india that hold government jobs. my dad's uncle was president of India. the current president of India is muslim. so how are u gonna say its a HINDU country??

well, im not adrenaline. maybe thats the reason why we dont share identical viewpoints. you're smart.

yes there are muslims in india. yes they hold government jobs. yes 85% of the indian population is hindu. hindu and india are almost synonymous. you really dont believe that?

[paulie walnuts]

And just for the record, i dont hate muslims or islam, i think India is best off as a secular country with a healthy muslim population. And I dont think kashmiri muslims or palestinians deserve oppression. But for the sake of unbridled debate, I will most likely argue every possible stance against the muslim stance and against Islam itself. muslims are the definition of myopic and therefore although i may agree with them, i will disagree with them too. it doesnt mean that my points wont be valid, just that they might be more extreme than my own opinions.

[NumbaOneStunna]

And just for the record, i dont hate muslims or islam, i think India is best off as a secular country with a healthy muslim population. And I dont think kashmiri muslims or palestinians deserve oppression. But for the sake of unbridled debate, I will most likely argue every possible stance against the muslim stance and against Islam itself. muslims are the definition of myopic and therefore although i may agree with them, i will disagree with them too. it doesnt mean that my points wont be valid, just that they might be more extreme than my own opinions.
Ahh this reminds me of those racists who claim they have black friends.

[samir]

great another idiot to add to the collection.

kafir. do u even know what that word means? Jews aren't kafirs.

So ur saying India is a hindu country? hmm, didnt redefine(adrenaline) used to argue that india IS NOT a hindu country?? i remember. anyways, there are muslims in india that hold government jobs. my dad's uncle was president of India. the current president of India is muslim. so how are u gonna say its a HINDU country??


india will always be a hindu country with minorities. just as america is a christian dominated country with minorities. nor you are quite fascinating


there is a reason why india is also called hindustan baby

[NumbaOneStunna]

India is not a hindu country but a secular nation. There is no state sponsored religion in India.

And hindustan was drived from the word "indus" which was used to describe the lands on the other side of the river by arabs and europeans.

[samir]

india might be secular on the books but 80% of the population remains hindu

[NumbaOneStunna]

india might be secular on the books but 80% of the population remains hindu
secular has nothing to do with the percentage of individual religions. The fact is there is NO PREFERRED religion in India. Its guaranteed by the CONSTITUTION of India.

[paulie walnuts]

And just for the record, i dont hate muslims or islam, i think India is best off as a secular country with a healthy muslim population. And I dont think kashmiri muslims or palestinians deserve oppression. But for the sake of unbridled debate, I will most likely argue every possible stance against the muslim stance and against Islam itself. muslims are the definition of myopic and therefore although i may agree with them, i will disagree with them too. it doesnt mean that my points wont be valid, just that they might be more extreme than my own opinions.
Ahh this reminds me of those racists who claim they have black friends.

lol, maybe so. but its not a point to disagree with. if i hated muslims, i would say it shamelessly. why would i care to convince you otherwise? i have nothing to hide from online strangers.

im just informing you that i am purposely arguing all the anti-muslim points because i read too many threads and posts with the muslim view not being countered properly.

this is what distinguishes me from the random hindutvadis roaming this forum. but as i said, for all practical purposes, i will become like them while on this forum.

[samir]

the preferred religion in india is hinduism since 80% of the population belongs to it. The indian constitution actually favors teh muslims with special rights such as polygamy and etc.


you should read up on it

[NumbaOneStunna]

the preferred religion in india is hinduism since 80% of the population belongs to it. The indian constitution actually favors teh muslims with special rights such as polygamy and etc.


you should read up on it
There is no preferred religion according to the state. Religion is a personal choice and any individual is free to follow whichever religion he/she chooses to , this is guaranteed by the Indian constitution.

As for muslim personal laws, i dont see how thats favoritism.

[angrynacho]

the preferred religion in india is hinduism since 80% of the population belongs to it. The indian constitution actually favors teh muslims with special rights such as polygamy and etc.


you should read up on it

No, stuff like that stems from classical European thinkers, mainly Mill, where the premise was that stuff like polygamy does not constitute a direct threat to anyone, so it should be allowed. (there is, of course, more to his argument and that is a very bad generalization, but the point remains...)

[samir]

^^ that is favortism because there are special laws for muslims but everyone abides by certain other laws. hindus, sikhs, christians, or jains all have to follow specific laws yet muslims are given laws of there own.



the reason why BJP is bieng elected is because the common hindu has become educated enough to realize how a hindu dominated country actually gives more rights to muslims than hindus. The constant pleasing of muslims by the Congress was there downfall

[samir]

No, stuff like that stems from classical European thinkers, mainly Mill, where the premise was that stuff like polygamy does not constitute a direct threat to anyone, so it should be allowed. (there is, of course, more to his argument and that is a very bad generalization, but the point remains...)


you didnt get my point did you?? the post wasnt about polygamy but the special laws given to muslims. Another law that you may want to know of is the one where a muslim who wishes to go to saudi arabia for their religious occassions gets certain amount of money from the govt. However if a hindu wants to go to ayodahaya for religious puposes gets nothing.

[angrynacho]

^^ that is favortism because there are special laws for muslims but everyone abides by certain other laws. hindus, sikhs, christians, or jains all have to follow specific laws yet muslims are given laws of there own.



the reason why BJP is bieng elected is because the common hindu has become educated enough to realize how a hindu dominated country actually gives more rights to muslims than hindus. The constant pleasing of muslims by the Congress was there downfall

I have _never_ heard of these laws you're talking about. Where did you hear about this?

BJP got elected through massive propaganda. There is no better way to exploit a democracy than massive propaganda.

[samir]

^^^ riiiiiiiiiiiight


you should go on google or yahoo and type in special laws indian muslims

[NumbaOneStunna]

Those special laws can be used only for muslims so i fail to see how it effects hindus , sikhs etc

Muslim personal laws are nothing but an agreement between two muslim parties to agree upon certain laws prescribed in islamic texts. Even if the indian gov abolishes the muslim personal laws they would still be used by muslims and there is nothing the state or any individual can do to stop that.

However, there is a clause in the India penal law code that in case a muslim doesnt want to follow the muslim personal law he can follow the indian penal code AND THE INDIAN PENAL CODE WOULD SUPERCEDE THE MUSLIM PERSONAL LAW.

So again i dont see how its favoritism.

[samir]

how are laws such as giving muslims money to travel to saudi arabia from the pockets of the government a personal law. Those laws effect every taxpayer in india and considering 80% of the tax payers are hindus it strictly affects them.


and as you've said the muslim has the choice to pick the muslim law or the law given to anyone else thus the choice is advantageous to the muslim. thus the govt is favoring the muslims which is why a pro hindu part as in the BJP is bieng elected

[NumbaOneStunna]

how are laws such as giving muslims money to travel to saudi arabia from the pockets of the government a personal law. Those laws effect every taxpayer in india and considering 80% of the tax payers are hindus it strictly affects them.


and as you've said the muslim has the choice to pick the muslim law or the law given to anyone else thus the choice is advantageous to the muslim. thus the govt is favoring the muslims which is why a pro hindu part as in the BJP is bieng elected
Haha the hajj money, thats funny. The Indian government claims it loses money over hajj but its actually believed the indian government makes huge profits. You should read this up if you want to http://www.alkhuddam.com/press.htm

As for you claiming that muslims are favored because they can chose between the two well , .....??? I dont understand your logic. Its like poeple giving their word, is that favoritism too? This particular matter shouldnt concern anyone else. It doesnt effect any other person. No hindu ever has to worry about muslim laws etc etc. Infact hindus can bring their own religious laws if this rankles them so much.

[PoshNor]

a government that favors a religion only lets ppl of that particular religion take on govt jobs. it makes sense. since india has ppl of different religions take on govt jobs, doesn't make india a hindu nation.

wow so simple. i'm surprised, i'm in hs and still pretty uneducated about some things, but ya'll are in college and don't even know that india isnt a hindu nation..... :shock:

[paulie walnuts]

a government that favors a religion only lets ppl of that particular religion take on govt jobs. it makes sense. since india has ppl of different religions take on govt jobs, doesn't make india a hindu nation.

wow so simple. i'm surprised, i'm in hs and still pretty uneducated about some things, but ya'll are in college and don't even know that india isnt a hindu nation..... :shock:

is that you in your avatar? you're a cutie. but you're wrong. india is a hindu country. not on paper, obviously not. its a secular republic with healthy representation of various peoples, including muslims. but when 85% of your population is very distinctly members one religion, that country is easily considered one of that religion.

[sameer]

a government that favors a religion only lets ppl of that particular religion take on govt jobs. it makes sense. since india has ppl of different religions take on govt jobs, doesn't make india a hindu nation.

wow so simple. i'm surprised, i'm in hs and still pretty uneducated about some things, but ya'll are in college and don't even know that india isnt a hindu nation..... :shock:

india's secularism is a major reason for why it is a way better place to live than pakiland

[PoshNor]

a government that favors a religion only lets ppl of that particular religion take on govt jobs. it makes sense. since india has ppl of different religions take on govt jobs, doesn't make india a hindu nation.

wow so simple. i'm surprised, i'm in hs and still pretty uneducated about some things, but ya'll are in college and don't even know that india isnt a hindu nation..... :shock:

india's secularism is a major reason for why it is a way better place to live than pakiland

uhhh what? pakistan isnt that much of a "muslim country". they don't enfore all the Islamic laws.

America isnt a chrisitian country. Is is a christian dominated country but that is different from being a christian country. Just like india, Hinu dominated country, but not a hindu country. blah blah blah, redefine was always complaining of Muslim rulers converting the Hindus, then how are there so many more hindus?

[Storms]

To those who think they know anything about Palestine.... read this:

Why do humans commit suicide???.... it's when they reach a state of despair.

Now imagine this, sameer (and those who think like him):
Someone breaks in to your home, shoots your mum, dad, brother, sister. Leaves them all for dead.

You come home.....
What do you do??(choose from the multi-choice options)
You sit down and have a cup of tea.
You go to check that your computer hasn't been damaged
You write a letter to a big newspaper and politician hoping that they may be able to help you in some way
YOU GRAB A FUCKIN GUN AND YOU GO OUT AND START SHOOTING MOTHERFUCKERS, WITHOUT A CARE FOR YOUR LIFE. IF YOU DIE, YOU DIE!



This my friends is what happened in Palestine.
Have you ever wondered what the term 'Israeli occupied Palestine' means??
It means the Israelis came into the Palestinians home and occupied it.... imagine if someone came to your home and said 'that's it we're staying here, in fact you listen to our rules from now on and we're gonna build walls around you to cave you in to secluded areas'
BUT not only this, they use a heavy hand and have killed innumerable innocents...
hence the suiciders... they don't give a shit, why should they??? they've lost everything that's dear to them.

THINK!!

Storms

*The Seeker of Truth and Justice*

[dj XeNo]

To those who think they know anything about Palestine.... read this:

Why do humans commit suicide???.... it's when they reach a state of despair.

Now imagine this, sameer (and those who think like him):
Someone breaks in to your home, shoots your mum, dad, brother, sister. Leaves them all for dead.

You come home.....
What do you do??(choose from the multi-choice options)
You sit down and have a cup of tea.
You go to check that your computer hasn't been damaged
You write a letter to a big newspaper and politician hoping that they may be able to help you in some way
YOU GRAB A FUCKIN GUN AND YOU GO OUT AND START SHOOTING MOTHERFUCKERS, WITHOUT A CARE FOR YOUR LIFE. IF YOU DIE, YOU DIE!



This my friends is what happened in Palestine.
Have you ever wondered what the term 'Israeli occupied Palestine' means??
It means the Israelis came into the Palestinians home and occupied it.... imagine if someone came to your home and said 'that's it we're staying here, in fact you listen to our rules from now on and we're gonna build walls around you to cave you in to secluded areas'
BUT not only this, they use a heavy hand and have killed innumerable innocents...
hence the suiciders... they don't give a shit, why should they??? they've lost everything that's dear to them.

THINK!!

Storms

*The Seeker of Truth and Justice*

unforuntunatly, immature admins like sameer can't grasp what you have just wrote.

maybe in a few years when his maturity reaches adulthood, intellectual conversations will be able to take place with him.

8)

[DesiStud1022]

To those who think they know anything about Palestine.... read this:

Why do humans commit suicide???.... it's when they reach a state of despair.

Now imagine this, sameer (and those who think like him):
Someone breaks in to your home, shoots your mum, dad, brother, sister. Leaves them all for dead.

You come home.....
What do you do??(choose from the multi-choice options)
You sit down and have a cup of tea.
You go to check that your computer hasn't been damaged
You write a letter to a big newspaper and politician hoping that they may be able to help you in some way
YOU GRAB A FUCKIN GUN AND YOU GO OUT AND START SHOOTING MOTHERFUCKERS, WITHOUT A CARE FOR YOUR LIFE. IF YOU DIE, YOU DIE!



This my friends is what happened in Palestine.
Have you ever wondered what the term 'Israeli occupied Palestine' means??
It means the Israelis came into the Palestinians home and occupied it.... imagine if someone came to your home and said 'that's it we're staying here, in fact you listen to our rules from now on and we're gonna build walls around you to cave you in to secluded areas'
BUT not only this, they use a heavy hand and have killed innumerable innocents...
hence the suiciders... they don't give a shit, why should they??? they've lost everything that's dear to them.

THINK!!

Storms

*The Seeker of Truth and Justice*

Is that how you think murder cases should be handled? In that case, then you just justified Americas attack on Afghanistan, Iraq, and any other country which might possibly be housing Al-Queida terrorists.

[dj XeNo]

To those who think they know anything about Palestine.... read this:

Why do humans commit suicide???.... it's when they reach a state of despair.

Now imagine this, sameer (and those who think like him):
Someone breaks in to your home, shoots your mum, dad, brother, sister. Leaves them all for dead.

You come home.....
What do you do??(choose from the multi-choice options)
You sit down and have a cup of tea.
You go to check that your computer hasn't been damaged
You write a letter to a big newspaper and politician hoping that they may be able to help you in some way
YOU GRAB A FUCKIN GUN AND YOU GO OUT AND START SHOOTING MOTHERFUCKERS, WITHOUT A CARE FOR YOUR LIFE. IF YOU DIE, YOU DIE!



This my friends is what happened in Palestine.
Have you ever wondered what the term 'Israeli occupied Palestine' means??
It means the Israelis came into the Palestinians home and occupied it.... imagine if someone came to your home and said 'that's it we're staying here, in fact you listen to our rules from now on and we're gonna build walls around you to cave you in to secluded areas'
BUT not only this, they use a heavy hand and have killed innumerable innocents...
hence the suiciders... they don't give a shit, why should they??? they've lost everything that's dear to them.

THINK!!

Storms

*The Seeker of Truth and Justice*

Is that how you think murder cases should be handled? In that case, then you just justified Americas attack on Afghanistan, Iraq, and any other country which might possibly be housing Al-Queida terrorists.

did al-queda break into AMericans homes and kill thier familys?

did saddamn attack the u.s?

did saddam sons do anything to the u.s?

you still think there are links between al-qeda and sadaam?

you cannot compare what happend on 9/11 to the isreali/palestinian conficlt at all...it is too differnet

[paulie walnuts]

To those who think they know anything about Palestine.... read this:

Why do humans commit suicide???.... it's when they reach a state of despair.

Now imagine this, sameer (and those who think like him):
Someone breaks in to your home, shoots your mum, dad, brother, sister. Leaves them all for dead.

You come home.....
What do you do??(choose from the multi-choice options)
You sit down and have a cup of tea.
You go to check that your computer hasn't been damaged
You write a letter to a big newspaper and politician hoping that they may be able to help you in some way
YOU GRAB A FUCKIN GUN AND YOU GO OUT AND START SHOOTING MOTHERFUCKERS, WITHOUT A CARE FOR YOUR LIFE. IF YOU DIE, YOU DIE!



This my friends is what happened in Palestine.
Have you ever wondered what the term 'Israeli occupied Palestine' means??
It means the Israelis came into the Palestinians home and occupied it.... imagine if someone came to your home and said 'that's it we're staying here, in fact you listen to our rules from now on and we're gonna build walls around you to cave you in to secluded areas'
BUT not only this, they use a heavy hand and have killed innumerable innocents...
hence the suiciders... they don't give a shit, why should they??? they've lost everything that's dear to them.

THINK!!

Storms

*The Seeker of Truth and Justice*

If i was a palestinian, i would blow myself up too. likewise, if i was an israeli, i'd love to shoot a bunch of crazy palestinians in the head.

[sameer]

a government that favors a religion only lets ppl of that particular religion take on govt jobs. it makes sense. since india has ppl of different religions take on govt jobs, doesn't make india a hindu nation.

wow so simple. i'm surprised, i'm in hs and still pretty uneducated about some things, but ya'll are in college and don't even know that india isnt a hindu nation..... :shock:

india's secularism is a major reason for why it is a way better place to live than pakiland

uhhh what? pakistan isnt that much of a "muslim country". they don't enfore all the Islamic laws.

America isnt a chrisitian country. Is is a christian dominated country but that is different from being a christian country. Just like india, Hinu dominated country, but not a hindu country. blah blah blah, redefine was always complaining of Muslim rulers converting the Hindus, then how are there so many more hindus?

dont u think 100 million plus converts is a lot?

[Storms]

>>

[Storms]

To those who think they know anything about Palestine.... read this:

Why do humans commit suicide???.... it's when they reach a state of despair.

Now imagine this, sameer (and those who think like him):
Someone breaks in to your home, shoots your mum, dad, brother, sister. Leaves them all for dead.

You come home.....
What do you do??(choose from the multi-choice options)
You sit down and have a cup of tea.
You go to check that your computer hasn't been damaged
You write a letter to a big newspaper and politician hoping that they may be able to help you in some way
YOU GRAB A FUCKIN GUN AND YOU GO OUT AND START SHOOTING MOTHERFUCKERS, WITHOUT A CARE FOR YOUR LIFE. IF YOU DIE, YOU DIE!



This my friends is what happened in Palestine.
Have you ever wondered what the term 'Israeli occupied Palestine' means??
It means the Israelis came into the Palestinians home and occupied it.... imagine if someone came to your home and said 'that's it we're staying here, in fact you listen to our rules from now on and we're gonna build walls around you to cave you in to secluded areas'
BUT not only this, they use a heavy hand and have killed innumerable innocents...
hence the suiciders... they don't give a shit, why should they??? they've lost everything that's dear to them.

THINK!!

Storms

*The Seeker of Truth and Justice*

If i was a palestinian, i would blow myself up too. likewise, if i was an israeli, i'd love to shoot a bunch of crazy palestinians in the head.

You redneck thick sob, do they not teach how to do multi choice in fuckin Mississippi???

YOU choose A, B, C or D!!!
Let me spell thing's out a little easier for you... I'll give you another option E.... so here's the question and all the possible answers. Choose ONE
Now imagine this, sameer (and those who think like him):
Someone breaks in to your home, shoots your mum, dad, brother, sister. Leaves them all for dead.

You come home.....
What do you do??(choose from the multi-choice options)
You sit down and have a cup of tea.
You go to check that your computer hasn't been damaged
You write a letter to a big newspaper and politician hoping that they may be able to help you in some way
YOU GRAB A FUCKIN GUN AND YOU GO OUT AND START SHOOTING MOTHERFUCKERS, WITHOUT A CARE FOR YOUR LIFE. IF YOU DIE, YOU DIE!
You don't know what to do because your a redneck and you don't understand the question


easy now!! don't start on me guys.... just opting for clarity.

Storms

[sameer]

but it turns out your mum, dad, brother, and sister were shot dead because your brother and dad orchestrated an attack on 15 innocent israeli civilians and killed them.

[paulie walnuts]

You redneck thick sob, do they not teach how to do multi choice in fuckin Mississippi???

YOU choose A, B, C or D!!!
Let me spell thing's out a little easier for you... I'll give you another option E.... so here's the question and all the possible answers. Choose ONE
Now imagine this, sameer (and those who think like him):
Someone breaks in to your home, shoots your mum, dad, brother, sister. Leaves them all for dead.

You come home.....
What do you do??(choose from the multi-choice options)
You sit down and have a cup of tea.
You go to check that your computer hasn't been damaged
You write a letter to a big newspaper and politician hoping that they may be able to help you in some way
YOU GRAB A FUCKIN GUN AND YOU GO OUT AND START SHOOTING MOTHERFUCKERS, WITHOUT A CARE FOR YOUR LIFE. IF YOU DIE, YOU DIE!
You don't know what to do because your a redneck and you don't understand the question


easy now!! don't start on me guys.... just opting for clarity.

Storms

LOL, i guess im a redneck since i dont have the words "chutney", "desi", or "masala" in my username. choot.

Your entire post is idiotic. If my family was killed, I wouldn't run outside and start shooting everyone. Only an idiot would do this. That is an act of a coward.

Furthermore, there are two sides to every story. What do you do when your little sister and your grandma get blown to pieces by a suicide bomber? YOU GRAB A FUCKIN GUN AND SHOOT EVERY PALESTINIAN IN SIGHT! right?


use your head beta. you sound foolish.

[ragem3]

I cannot believe what i'm reading...SAMEER..u really need to back up your statements..Israel is a terrorist state...try reading paul findley's book "they dare to speak out"when u get a chance...one more thing...CNN LIES!! I've been told by many journalists that 85 percent of the mainstream media gives out fabricated information...They never show the millions of Israeli's that protest against their own government. Even in our own united states. I've been to many protests where jews protest side by side with the pro-palstenians...You ever see that on the news??i don't think so. You need to look for the root cause of the problem..It's pretty sad when the victim is portrayed as the killer...

[ragem3]

One more thing SAMEER... Every single one of your posts are typical and weak...that of a person who's only source of education on this topic is from CNN..you might wanna read some books and check out some independant news sources..BBC's not all that great but it beats the heck out of CNN and all of the other mainstream media we have in our country...Atleast they show both sides of the story...Why do you think Ted Turner doesn't own CNN anymore?? He made a comment stating that WE NEED TO LOOK AT BOTH..THE ISRAELI AND PALESTINIAN SIDE..AND THAT..but no..he was told to apologize publicly for his remarks...So maybe you should take a CAREFUL look at BOTH sides of the situation and stop making irresponsible remarks that is based on garbage.

[sameer]

lol... um the CNN thing was an inside joke... it really meant... "and no i dont just get my info from just CNN"... it was sarcasm.

[Storms]

How the fuck has the oppressor become the fuckin victim??

NOW that you guys have half figured out how to answer multi choice... lte me ask you another question (which I've already asked previously AND provided you with an answer!! So you don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure it out):


WHAT DOES THE TERM 'ISRAELI OCCUPIED PALESTINE' MEAN?

Storms

'All I see is racist faces' - Tupac Shakur

[sameer]

btw palestine doesnt exist

[Storms]

If my family was killed, I wouldn't run outside and start shooting everyone.

I didn't ask 'What wouldn't you do?'
I said 'What would you do?'

Idiot. A pre-requisite for anyone replying to my posts should be a basic grasp of english. I'll correct you this time, but in future expect NO RESPONSE if you're gonna behave like a dim-witted spastic.

Storms

*You don't have to have a red-neck, to be a red-neck... as sameer has proved*

[DesiStud1022]

Why do humans commit suicide???.... it's when they reach a state of despair.

Now imagine this, Storms (and those who think like him):
Someone breaks in to your home, shoots your mum, dad, brother, sister. Leaves them all for dead. You find out that he is someone from YOUR OWN COUNTRY.

You come home.....
What do you do??(choose from the multi-choice options)
You sit down and have a cup of tea.
You go to check that your computer hasn't been damaged
You write a letter to a big newspaper and politician hoping that they may be able to help you in some way
YOU GRAB A FUCKIN GUN AND YOU GO OUT AND START SHOOTING MOTHERFUCKERS, WITHOUT A CARE FOR YOUR LIFE. IF YOU DIE, YOU DIE!


(Just curious)

[Storms]

Why do humans commit suicide???.... it's when they reach a state of despair.

Now imagine this, Storms (and those who think like him):
Someone breaks in to your home, shoots your mum, dad, brother, sister. Leaves them all for dead. You find out that he is someone from YOUR OWN COUNTRY.

You come home.....
What do you do??(choose from the multi-choice options)
You sit down and have a cup of tea.
You go to check that your computer hasn't been damaged
You write a letter to a big newspaper and politician hoping that they may be able to help you in some way
YOU GRAB A FUCKIN GUN AND YOU GO OUT AND START SHOOTING MOTHERFUCKERS, WITHOUT A CARE FOR YOUR LIFE. IF YOU DIE, YOU DIE!


(Just curious)

I seem to recall that I asked the question first... it's common conversational etiquette, that you answer the first question first. Then ask your question... please provide me an answer to my question... then by all means ask one yourself.

(btw you fall in to the category of those who think like sameer)

Storms

[sameer]

those who think like me = non delusional

[NY RacerSuprA]

those who think like me = non delusional


dats u

[DesiStud1022]

(Just curious)

I seem to recall that I asked the question first... it's common conversational etiquette, that you answer the first question first. Then ask your question... please provide me an answer to my question... then by all means ask one yourself.

(btw you fall in to the category of those who think like sameer)

Storms[/quote]

My appologies,

I would write a letter. I would also hire a PI and try to find out who killed my family. Once the individual is caught, I would contact the authorities and have your legal justice system take care of it. If, by chance, he gets off on some technicality - I would hire someone to kill him.

[Storms]

My appologies,

I would write a letter. I would also hire a PI and try to find out who killed my family. Once the individual is caught, I would contact the authorities and have your legal justice system take care of it. If, by chance, he gets off on some technicality - I would hire someone to kill him.

Finally, we're getting somewhere.

Well done, and welcome to Palestine. There's an assumption in your answer that you can afford a hit man.... if all Palestinians could afford a hit-man they'd do exactly what you suggest.

My answer is the same as yours... with the addition:
If I couldn't afford a hit man I'D GO OUT AND KILL THE MOTHERFUCKERS MYSELF

[DesiStud1022]

My appologies,

I would write a letter. I would also hire a PI and try to find out who killed my family. Once the individual is caught, I would contact the authorities and have your legal justice system take care of it. If, by chance, he gets off on some technicality - I would hire someone to kill him.

Finally, we're getting somewhere.

Well done, and welcome to Palestine. There's an assumption in your answer that you can afford a hit man.... if all Palestinians could afford a hit-man they'd do exactly what you suggest.

My answer is the same as yours... with the addition:
If I couldn't afford a hit man []I'D GO OUT AND KILL THE MOTHERFUCKERS MYSELF[/]

Granted, but what if you didnt know exactly who did it? Would you think its justifyable to go out and blase up a whole country in hopes that you find the one individual whos responsible?

[paulie walnuts]

don't believe the hype, its not real 8)

Word, come on, they aint foolin me one bit.

Right on! Those bastards didnt "fool" you into believing that ridiculous holocaust story right?

[PoshNor]

a government that favors a religion only lets ppl of that particular religion take on govt jobs. it makes sense. since india has ppl of different religions take on govt jobs, doesn't make india a hindu nation.

wow so simple. i'm surprised, i'm in hs and still pretty uneducated about some things, but ya'll are in college and don't even know that india isnt a hindu nation..... :shock:

india's secularism is a major reason for why it is a way better place to live than pakiland

uhhh what? pakistan isnt that much of a "muslim country". they don't enfore all the Islamic laws.

America isnt a chrisitian country. Is is a christian dominated country but that is different from being a christian country. Just like india, Hinu dominated country, but not a hindu country. blah blah blah, redefine was always complaining of Muslim rulers converting the Hindus, then how are there so many more hindus?

dont u think 100 million plus converts is a lot?

100 million plus converts where? dude there's isn't even that many non-muslims in pakistan...

ppl dont get forced to convert to islam. they conver themselves. duh..

try reading paul findley's book "they dare to speak out"

thats a fucking awesome book.

[paulie walnuts]

a government that favors a religion only lets ppl of that particular religion take on govt jobs. it makes sense. since india has ppl of different religions take on govt jobs, doesn't make india a hindu nation.

wow so simple. i'm surprised, i'm in hs and still pretty uneducated about some things, but ya'll are in college and don't even know that india isnt a hindu nation..... :shock:

india's secularism is a major reason for why it is a way better place to live than pakiland

uhhh what? pakistan isnt that much of a "muslim country". they don't enfore all the Islamic laws.

America isnt a chrisitian country. Is is a christian dominated country but that is different from being a christian country. Just like india, Hinu dominated country, but not a hindu country. blah blah blah, redefine was always complaining of Muslim rulers converting the Hindus, then how are there so many more hindus?

dont u think 100 million plus converts is a lot?

100 million plus converts where? dude there's isn't even that many non-muslims in pakistan...

ppl dont get forced to convert to islam. they conver themselves. duh..

try reading paul findley's book "they dare to speak out"

thats a fucking awesome book.

JOKE OF THE FUCKING CENTURY!! PROPS!

[ThreeFiddy]

/\ Another hindutva twat. How many is that, 2? Nice.

[PoshNor]

a government that favors a religion only lets ppl of that particular religion take on govt jobs. it makes sense. since india has ppl of different religions take on govt jobs, doesn't make india a hindu nation.

wow so simple. i'm surprised, i'm in hs and still pretty uneducated about some things, but ya'll are in college and don't even know that india isnt a hindu nation..... :shock:

india's secularism is a major reason for why it is a way better place to live than pakiland

uhhh what? pakistan isnt that much of a "muslim country". they don't enfore all the Islamic laws.

America isnt a chrisitian country. Is is a christian dominated country but that is different from being a christian country. Just like india, Hinu dominated country, but not a hindu country. blah blah blah, redefine was always complaining of Muslim rulers converting the Hindus, then how are there so many more hindus?

dont u think 100 million plus converts is a lot?

100 million plus converts where? dude there's isn't even that many non-muslims in pakistan...

ppl dont get forced to convert to islam. they conver themselves. duh..

try reading paul findley's book "they dare to speak out"

thats a fucking awesome book.

JOKE OF THE FUCKING CENTURY!! PROPS!

yep, ur an idiot. let me explain and u TRY to comprehend.

even when muslims rulers conquered India, they didnt force anybody to convert to Islam. which explains why there are so many hindus and so few muslims in that region. and don't give me ur shit, this is written in history books.

also, how can this be the joke of the century?? the century just started 4 yrs ago, are u still stuck in the 90s?? wow. anyways, this century and last, most ppl hav something called rights. so nobody is forcing anybody to do anything. yep.

[NumbaOneStunna]

Its useless arguing with hindutva retards with such close minds.

[nestlecrunch]

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=540&u=/ap/20040324/ap_on_re_mi_ea/palestinians_young_bomber_11&printer=1

what kind of people encourage their children to risk their lives? are they that crazy? and even worse they tell their children that they are doing it in the name of their god. but of course this is nothing new, palestinans love putting their kids up near the front lines, and especially to throw rocks at israeli soldiers which only increases their chances of being hurt (what if some palestinian mad man fires at the soldiers from the crowd, an israeli would be justified to shoot back, which might endanger the kids, but of course thats why the kids were placed there, to draw pity when they get hurt)

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040324/i/r2904507798.jpg

caption: A Palestinian boy who was caught with an explosive belt is guarded by Israeli soldiers at the checkpoint at the entrance to the Palestinian West Bank city of Nablus, March 24, 2004. Israeli troops arrested the 14-year-old boy Palestinian would-be suicide bomber at a West Bank checkpoint before he could detonate his explosive belt, the army said. REUTERS/ Nir Elias

Well I think some people encourage children to risk their life because they aren't worried about them. They strongly believe that if their children was to die in this cause, they'll go to heaven.

[__ruby]

not again...stop these posts!!!


POSH you are really pretty btw