indian air force jets

[samir]

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Su-30/Su-30b.jpg



those are SU-30 MK1's betterthan even the latest f-16's

america even offered india F-16's but india is refusing to induct them in. Yet pakistan is begging usa for some F-16's and it aint getting them

:P

[samir]

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Mig-29/MiG-29n.jpg



india mig29 over ludhiana punjab BRUUUUUUUUUUUUAH :D

[samir]

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Mig-29/MiG-29w.jpg



another fulcrum over apna punjab :D

[samir]

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Mirage/Mirage7.jpg


a mirage 2000 (second best fighter jet in the indian airforce) over rajasthan. I love this sweet pic, rajasthan is so damn beautiful

[samir]

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Mig-27/MiG-27d.jpg



mig 27 flogger over rajasthan. check out the paint on this beauty

[samir]

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Su-30/Su-30b1.jpg


su 30 mki's flying in formation

[samir]

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Mig-29/MiG-29x.jpg


4 indian mig 29's escorting an army transport plane :D

[samir]

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Su-30/Su-30y.jpg


some of the su 30 mki's displayed, check out the flag in the background

[methodman535]

The reason India probably refused the F-16s is because the US has a rep as an unreliable arms supplier due to their generosity with sanctioning their "allies" not because its a bad aircraft.

[samir]

dude ofcourse its an awesome aircraft but they refused it for the reason you mentioned plus its too costly to operate american, french, and russian aircrafts in the same airforce. the logistics behind it would be terrifying.

[desispeed]

plus the maintenance fees on US weapons. Pak had f-16's sitting around for years that were inoperable due to lack of any maintenance after the US put them on probation during the 90's. Only the US can provide the proper parts and maintenance to keep them up in the air

[NumbaOneStunna]

Russia also sold the SU-30 to China along with all the technology. Needless to say the Chinese would incorporate that technology in the joint Chinese-Pakistani aircraft FC1.

[samir]

buddy chinese stuff is cheap and crappy. the planes they sold to iran are useless (thats what the iranians say). furthermore chinese are unable to produce quality arms thus they buy from russia and the west. they can make stuff like fc-1 which shouldnt be the best plane of any decent air force

[NumbaOneStunna]

buddy chinese stuff is cheap and crappy. the planes they sold to iran are useless (thats what the iranians say). furthermore chinese are unable to produce quality arms thus they buy from russia and the west. they can make stuff like fc-1 which shouldnt be the best plane of any decent air force
China bought the SU30 from the Russians along with all of its technology. Russia is helping set up production plants for the airplane inside China. What makes you think China wouldnt use that technology to bolster its other aircrafts?

[samir]

so what? russia sold the technology to build SU 30 mki's to india as well. they are helping them build plants in india. soon india will be able to build su 30 MKI's in india

[moonshadow]

nice aircraft. i remember some of those from back when i was there

[NumbaOneStunna]

so what? russia sold the technology to build SU 30 mki's to india as well. they are helping them build plants in india. soon india will be able to build su 30 MKI's in india
I know. All i was saying was its ironic that both India and Pakistan would end up with similar technology

[samir]

there is nothing ironic about this. you really think the russians are going to give china the consent to sell russian technology to other nations?? russia sells its military tech to many nations. they are not gonna let these nations become competitors in the international military market. its all about business and if the russians learn that the chinese are copying their technology in other projects they'll just stop doing business with them.

[NumbaOneStunna]

there is nothing ironic about this. you really think the russians are going to give china the consent to sell russian technology to other nations?? russia sells its military tech to many nations. they are not gonna let these nations become competitors in the international military market. its all about business and if the russians learn that the chinese are copying their technology in other projects they'll just stop doing business with them.
Really?
And lose the biggest buyer of Russian weapons out there?
Are you kidding yourself?
Anyways, if thats what you believe then so be it.

[samir]

FC-1 cant compare with late f-16's, mirage 2000's, or su 30 mki's. it will be a mediocre fighter made from chinese quality. pakistan better hope that it gets some late edition f-16's and not the ones from the 80's or it'll lag behind india even more.

now india dominates pakistan in the air and is only widenning this gap yearly by the induction of israeli avionics

[samir]

Really?
And lose the biggest buyer of Russian weapons out there?
Are you kidding yourself?
Anyways, if thats what you believe then so be it.


india is the second largest buyer of russian weapons. so you really think the indians are gonna let the russians sell technology to chinese which than is handed down to pakistanis (be it at a low quality form) ?/ you really think that'll happen? india can stop buying jets from russia and buy from the french.

btw india will be purchasing the mirage 2000 -7 (latest edition)

[NumbaOneStunna]

India will raise a stink but China will deny it and thats all there would be. But i guess its useless arguing about it

[kawiboy]

The MKI is a Su30 shell (airframe and engine) with ECM, FBW, system computer, software integration from Israel, France and ofcourse India.

No other airforce in the world (not even Russia) will have this variant. Ofcourse, it's a killer. The USAF pilots were allowed to try the Su30 but were not shown the MKI ;)

It makes economic and political sense for India to stick to dealing with the Russians (Su30/MIG), French (Mirage) and Israel (avionics and AWACS)

Sukhoi is doing some amazing development and it would be much easier to cross-integrate the newer "enhancements"

http://www.ipilot.com/media/su-37-2.mpeg
This Super-Flanker? was flown with full load of weapons thus nullifying the argument that the displayed model was fine tuned for aerobatics and useless in actual battle field.



They (IAF) performed very well. I think in most cases they were equal to us, superior in some aspects. The Indian “attackers” (Mig-27 escorted by Su-30s) got through the US defences (the F-15s are the USAF’s air defence fighters) several times. It was a very tough scenario on all days, the pilot skill levels were also equal a lot of times. It felt like we were fighting ourselves, when we were fighting the Indian Air Force guys.

-- Captain Vogel, USAF



The IAF refused to field its ace, the MKI version of the Sukhoi-30 which has superior Indian-built avionics. "No one reveals his trump card even when exercising with the closest friend"

-- An IAF Mirage pilot



The (Indian) pilots are as aggressive as our pilots. They are excellent aviators; they work very hard at mission planning; they try to get as much out of a mission or sortie as possible, just like us. From one fighter pilot to another, there’s really not that much difference in how we prepare for a mission and what we want to get out of it. We learnt a lot from each other.

-- Col. F.G. Neubeck, the USAF team leader.


Can't wait for Cope Thunder!
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Special/CopeIndia/IAF04.jpg

[angrynacho]

Yeah, isn't it great how India has money to spend on shit like this when it has a major poverty issue? JAI HIND!

[samir]

Yeah, isn't it great how India has money to spend on shit like this when it has a major poverty issue? JAI HIND!

as a percentage of GDP india spends as much or as little as any other nation. However as a percentage of its gdp pakistan spends twice as much.


pakistan currently spends 4 billion on its armed forces and india spends 18 billion. Its not our fault our economy is growing by 8% a year so ofcourse our spending on armed forces will increase.

[DesiStud1022]

If India and Pakistan go to war, America will back India.

Whoever has America will win.

[methodman535]

If India and Pakistan go to war, America will back India.

Whoever has America will win.

I dont know what you were smoking when you coughed that up but who they back will depend on what the issues are. Most likely they wont back either party. And if you look at the past 60 years they have always backed pakistan not india. If you look at the kashmir dispute they either say they dont want to get involved....or they just act as neutral mediators.