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[notoriou$punjabi]

KaliYuga
The fourth and last age is 432,000 human years. Of which 5100 years have past. Also known as the Iron Age. This is the age in which we are presently living. The qualities of this age are: the climate is one quarter virtue and three quarters sin; human stature is 3.5 cubits; lifespan is 100 or 120 years.(this would continue continue to decrees) Gurbani:”Kaljug paarmanh nanak gorh angad amar kehaeo.sri guru raaj abeychal attal adah purkh farmaeoh”The supreme lord appeared as Guru nanak along with the ten gurus.note:guru nanak dev ji is predicted as the saviour of this age in the hindu scriptures at different places eg.bhavichat puran , simiritis etc. Dharma had one leg left in this age.”Dharm pankh kar udreaia”That also had flown away .”Sharm dharm deoeh pakh khloeah kurh fereah pardan veah lalo.”Sence of shame and religion is gone from this age.People have become shameless and irreligious.The only way to save oneself is to chant Harinaam.”Kalau meah raamnam hai saar”(more will be discussed in the topic on kaljug later) The creation disappears at the end of a maha juga and remains in seed form inside brahma

[notoriou$punjabi]

In the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji many a times guru ji mentions about the satjug treatehjug ,dwapurjug,and kaljug.Bani of Bhai Gurdass ji also mentiones about the four jugas.Direct translation into english it means golden age ,silver age, bronze age, iron or dark age.These present age is the age of darkness .Which accoding to some historians started on February 18, 3102 B.C according to the Gregorian calendar.

[bad_cheque]

*waits for sikhs to land here and condemn notoriouspunjabi for linking Sikhs to Hindus*

[notoriou$punjabi]

http://www.bharatsutra.de/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=32624&sid=f6789bfbd9120056cef0ca6fad08c446

[Spiky]

*waits for sikhs to land here and condemn notoriouspunjabi for linking Sikhs to Hindus*

[notoriou$punjabi]

*waits for sikhs to land here and condemn notoriouspunjabi for linking Sikhs to Hindus*
yeah the ones who dont know much about sikhism

[notoriou$punjabi]

SOME OF THE TERMS USED TO MEASURE IN ANCIENT INDIA,SOME OF WHICH ARE USED FREQUENTLY IN THE GURBANI.

6 an.uh. (atoms) = 1 trasaren.u

3 trasaren.u = 1 trut.i (1687.5 trut.is = 1 second)

100 trut.i = 1 vedha

3 vedha = 1 lava

3 lava = 1 nimes.a

3 nimes.as = 1 ks.an.a

5 ks.an.a = 1 kaas.t.haa

15 kaas.t.h.aa = 1 laghu(2 minutes = 1 laghu)

15 laghu = 1 naad.ikaa or 1 dan.d.a

2 dan.d.a = 1 muhuurta (48 min?)(1 ghat.ikaa = 24 minutes)

6 or 7 dan.d.a = 1/4 of a day or night

4 yaamah. or prahara = 1 day or 1 night

15 days and nights = 1 paks.ah. (fortnight)

2 paks.ah. (white and black) = 1 month (1 day and night for Pitaa planets)

2 maasah. (months) = 1 r.tuh. (season)

6 maasah. (months) = 1 solar movement (south<->north)

2 solar movements = 1 day and night for the demigods = 1 year for humans

12000 years of demigods (YOD) = 1 catuh. yuga = 4,320,000 years

4800 YOD = Satya yuga = 1,728,000 years
3600 YOD = Tretaa yuga = 1,296,000 years
2400 YOD = Dvaapara yuga = 864,000 years
1200 YOD = Kali yuga = 432,000 years
1000 catuh. yuga = 1 kalpa = 1 day of Brahmaa = 1 night of Brahmaa

14 Manus = 1 day of Brahmaa

50 Brahmaa years = 1 paraardha (currently in 2nd paraardha)

2 paraardha = lifespan of Brahmaa = 1 nimes.a of Mahaa-Visnu

There are 13 months in the Indian(vedic)calendar. The 13th month is called adhi-maasa or mala-maasa and is added ever 3rd year. (SB 3.21.1

6*3*100*3*3*3*5*15*15*(6,7)*4*2*15*2*6*2*4320000*1 000*2*15*2*6*2*100 = 293,865,615,360,000,000,000,000,000 atoms (2^26*3^14*5^16*6) to 342,843,217,920,000,000,000,000,000 atoms (2^26*3^14*5^16*7)
Assuming there are 365.25 days per year, it would mean that 5.25 days are unaccounted for per year using 6 dan.daa = 1/4 of a day. 252 dand.aa is equal to 5.25 days and in 360 days there are 360*24*2 (17,280) dand.aa.There should be 17532 dand.aa if 365.25 is an accurate term for a solar year.

Thus, multiply the first term of number of atoms by 1.0145833 or 487/480. This gives approximately 3.0*10^26 atoms. It seems that 1/2 hour should be added to the day every 10/7 of a day to keep in sync with the sun. Notes: Planets, stars, atoms, etc. all rotate in their respective orbits.

[notoriou$punjabi]

both or half

all the same

[PuNjabi_RaNi*]

Sikh hindus?

are you dumb or something????


Sikhism is a seperate religion

[Spiky]

Sikh hindus?

are you dumb or something????


Sikhism is a seperate religion


uh oh....


:rofl:

[notoriou$punjabi]

Sikh hindus?

are you dumb or something????


Sikhism is a seperate religion
note: the ten gurus are from the dynasty of Sri Raamchand ji maharaj, as stated by Guru Gobind Singh ji in the Vichatar Natak in Dasam Granth Sahib ji.

[PuNjabi_RaNi*]

The Sri Granth Sahib ji is the Sikhs' Holy Scripture. Sikhs bow their head in the Gurdwara to Guru Granth Sahib as a sign of respect but Sikhs do not worship the scriptures.

Guru Nanak dev Ji is the spiritual teacher of Sikhs and shows the way to meet God, and he instructed idol worship will not lead one to salvation.

[PuNjabi_RaNi*]

note: the ten gurus are from the dynasty of Sri Raamchand ji maharaj, as stated by Guru Gobind Singh ji in the Vichatar Natak in Dasam Granth Sahib ji.

im not finished with you yet idiot.

[notoriou$punjabi]

At the end of the daytime period of Brahma, a dreadful drought occurs that lasts 100 years, (brahma’s 100 year) and all the waters are dried up. The sun changes into seven suns, and the three planetary systems (Bhurloka or solar system ,middle planetary system , Bhuvarloka or the lower planetary system , and Svarloka or higher planetary system) and the underworlds are burned bare of life. The inhabitants of Bhuvarloka and Svarkloka flee to the next higher planetary system , Maharloka, to escape the heat; and then to the next higher planetary system, Janaloka .Inhabitants of these planets or planetary systems are more advanced spiritually and materially than the middle and lower planetary systems thus with their special powers or sidhis they are able to transfer thenselfs to the higher planetary systems.Then mighty clouds form and the three planetary systems are completely flooded with water. The lord Vishnu”Ik sansari ikh bhandari” reposes on the waters in meditative rest for another whole kalpa (4.32 billion years) before renewing the creation


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I certainly did not know any of the above in depth. Did hear about it though. For such information to be even available in the Vedas really prooves where and what the world needs to follow including Indians/hindus

[notoriou$punjabi]

The Sri Granth Sahib ji is the Sikhs' Holy Scripture. Sikhs bow their head in the Gurdwara to Guru Granth Sahib as a sign of respect but Sikhs do not worship the scriptures.

Guru Nanak dev Ji is the spiritual teacher of Sikhs and shows the way to meet God, and he instructed idol worship will not lead one to salvation.
of course idol worship does not lead to salvation..... but did you know that when you were not even grown up n only prolly used to bow down to Guru Nanak Devjis photo

then with time and maturity you learnt much more... but now you condemn the very first step you took in order to climb this philosophical ladder

Is it me or are you just confused about whats what!

[Space-Cowboy]

4800 YOD = Satya yuga = 1,728,000 years
3600 YOD = Tretaa yuga = 1,296,000 years
2400 YOD = Dvaapara yuga = 864,000 years
1200 YOD = Kali yuga = 432,000 years
1000 catuh. yuga = 1 kalpa = 1 day of Brahmaa = 1 night of Brahmaa

Interesting little fact: Accepted date of the earliest division of primates between humans and other apes: approx. 4+ mln years

1728 + 1296 + 864 + 432 = 4,320,000

[Felonius Monk]

I once advised a sikh to get a haircut. He was pist.

[notoriou$punjabi]

Note :This is the life of the 4 ages which accepted by all major Sampardas of Sikh Dharma,like the Nirmalas from which Nanaksar sampardah,Rarehweleh sampardah,Mastuanehwaleh sampardah of Baba Attar Singh ji and many such shakhans of Nirmala Sampardah, Uadsis sampardah,Baba Deep Singh Sampardah of Dhamdami thaksal,Bhai Mani Singh Sampardah

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this is the conclusion this sikh poster on another forum came up with...

PS. a SIKH poster

[bad_cheque]

uh oh....


:rofl:
It's like clockwork. :D

[PrOfFaSeE]

i dont get it
how come theres like fossils of dinosaurs and stuff

[notoriou$punjabi]

Interesting little fact: Accepted date of the earliest division of primates between humans and other apes: approx. 4+ mln years

1728 + 1296 + 864 + 432 = 4,320,000
and white boy scientists wanna waste time, energy and ressources to PROOVE any of this ?

I dont mind them being so deeply into facts but the rest of the world shouldnt be kept waiting for every new discovery they make once a decade..

[notoriou$punjabi]

i dont get it
how come theres like fossils of dinosaurs and stuff
check it out

just read the descriptions of the 4 Yugas

It clearly states in Kaliyuga NAAM (recitation-remembering/feeling god within oneself) is a way for the common folk to attain salvation.

So for us to argue or even learn these facts isnt imp

Cos its not required.

[Space-Cowboy]

Sikh hindus?

are you dumb or something????


Sikhism is a seperate religion


Listen to me instead, I have both Sikh family members as well as Buddhist ones. [I'm Hindu]

And yes, Sikhism and Hinduism are two different religions.

But also so you know 2 things:

-Vedic Philosophy in NOT the same as Hinduism. Vedic Philosophy is a much deeper and spiritual analysis [PHILOSOPHY] of the Universe, Existence, God/Ultimate Reality [Brahman], Nirvana, and our place [or "non-place", rather], in all of this.

-Hinduism doesn't believe in 'idol worship'. Hinduism prays 'towards' statues, to invoke Narayan [the dualistic, formless, aspect of Brahman] for worship. The One God [in the dualistic sense] is still being worshipped, not the 'idol'.


[I personally don't believe in worship/prayer, I believe in meditation]

[Space-Cowboy]

and white boy scientists wanna waste time, energy and ressources to PROOVE any of this ?

I dont mind them being so deeply into facts but the rest of the world shouldnt be kept waiting for every new discovery they make once a decade..


What the hell are you talking about??? :sarb: :Pelvic2:

[notoriou$punjabi]

note: the ten gurus are from the dynasty of Sri Raamchand ji maharaj, as stated by Guru Gobind Singh ji in the Vichatar Natak in Dasam Granth Sahib ji.
i wouldnt mind fully believing this

No wonder the Godly timing was pefect for the Gurus arrival

India under moghals

The period of 1450 in any indian history book will have chapters about " The Bhakti Movement".

[Sikh4Lyfe]

So, what you're trying to say is.......

[PrOfFaSeE]

check it out

just read the descriptions of the 4 Yugas

It clearly states in Kaliyuga NAAM (recitation-remembering/feeling god within oneself) is a way for the common folk to attain salvation.

So for us to argue or even learn these facts isnt imp

Cos its not required.
i know that dude
its wat i been taught my whole life
that god resides in this day and age in his name
but im always asking
HOW DOES THIS FIT IN
and stuff like that

[Space-Cowboy]

At the end of the daytime period of Brahma, a dreadful drought occurs that lasts 100 years, (brahma’s 100 year) and all the waters are dried up. The sun changes into seven suns, and the three planetary systems (Bhurloka or solar system ,middle planetary system , Bhuvarloka or the lower planetary system , and Svarloka or higher planetary system) and the underworlds are burned bare of life. The inhabitants of Bhuvarloka and Svarkloka flee to the next higher planetary system , Maharloka, to escape the heat; and then to the next higher planetary system, Janaloka .Inhabitants of these planets or planetary systems are more advanced spiritually and materially than the middle and lower planetary systems thus with their special powers or sidhis they are able to transfer thenselfs to the higher planetary systems.Then mighty clouds form and the three planetary systems are completely flooded with water. The lord Vishnu”Ik sansari ikh bhandari” reposes on the waters in meditative rest for another whole kalpa (4.32 billion years) before renewing the creation


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I certainly did not know any of the above in depth. Did hear about it though. For such information to be even available in the Vedas really prooves where and what the world needs to follow including Indians/hindus


You DO know a lot of this is meant to be taken in the metaphorical sense and not the literal sense, right?

[Cunard]

next these same right wing hindus will say muslims and christians are the same things as jews or that one can be half jewish and half muslim

[notoriou$punjabi]

You DO know a lot of this is meant to be taken in the metaphorical sense and not the literal sense, right?
Of course... dude im hindu

Dont expect me to be watching RAMAYANA on tv to pass time

[notoriou$punjabi]

next these same right wing hindus will say muslims and christians are the same things as jews or that one can be half jewish and half muslim
fuck the right wing hindus

this is what a sikh said

N the Guru Granth Sahib states it.

besides you can be saddened all you want as this is not gonna make your ego come down one bit...

[notoriou$punjabi]

i know that dude
its wat i been taught my whole life
that god resides in this day and age in his name
but im always asking
HOW DOES THIS FIT IN
and stuff like that
n thats what i say... you should always ask yourself 10 times before stepping foot into something new

[PuNjabi_RaNi*]

of course idol worship does not lead to salvation..... but did you know that when you were not even grown up n only prolly used to bow down to Guru Nanak Devjis photo

then with time and maturity you learnt much more... but now you condemn the very first step you took in order to climb this philosophical ladder

Is it me or are you just confused about whats what!

I think you are confused at the fact why khalsa was created to seperate itself from the hindu and muslims. Not to become a sub catorgory but a self own religion. The guru granth sahib does have its own identity and scriptures which is different to hinduism

Yes guru nanak dev ji was born into a khatri family and took along hindu influences into sikhi.


Your pasting and copying skills are not doing you any justice either.

[punjabi_gurl_17]

one of the best yugs is 4800 YOD = Satya yuga = 1,728,000 years ..i wish i was born in that time..insted of kal yug..

[notoriou$punjabi]

So, what you're trying to say is.......
what I personaly tried to proove here is that our scriptures might be in DEVNAGARI script n yours are in GURMUKHI but they both deal with the same information

Inside out

[Cunard]

fuck the right wing hindus

this is what a sikh said

N the Guru Granth Sahib states it.

besides you can be saddened all you want as this is not gonna make your ego come down one bit...

the guru granth sahib nowhere states that sikhs are hindus

its not my ego that is in question..it is yours

hindus for years have been pissed that 800 million of them could not fatham to achieve what a small minority of sikhs have...so instead they come out with shit like this to make themselves feel better

[Sikh4Lyfe]

I still dont get what you are talking about. What the hell is this 1,700,000 year thing?

[notoriou$punjabi]

I think you are confused at the fact why khalsa was created to seperate itself from the hindu and muslims. Not to become a sub catorgory but a self own religion. The guru granth sahib does have its own identity and scriptures which is different to hinduism

Yes guru nanak dev ji was born into a khatri family and took along hindu influences into sikhi.


Your pasting and copying skills are not doing you any justice either.
im a sucker at cheating or copying others material

.........

You are confused about when the foundation of Sikhi was laid. IT was in 1699 . For you to think Guru Nank Devji wanted to start a new religion is wrong. He spread Gods Word among gods people. So did all the Gurus.

Instead of appointing another Guru, Guru Gobind Singhji formed Khalsa and jot it down.

So whats wrong in that ? Punjabis dont understand Sanskrit anyhow and Brahmans used to manipulate other castes with their knowledge of the Scriptures.

Its fair to say the brahmans had been corrupt n put back in their place.

[notoriou$punjabi]

the guru granth sahib nowhere states that sikhs are hindus

its not my ego that is in question..it is yours

hindus for years have been pissed that 800 million of them could not fatham to achieve what a small minority of sikhs have...so instead they come out with shit like this to make themselves feel better
i know you are a mod or whatever but personaly id like you to get the fuck out

get the gist ?

[bad_cheque]

Religion serves the purpose of its followers.

The needs of Sikhs abroad are different from those who live in India which in turn are different from Sikhs who lived in the past.

I say this about all religions. I don't know why this thread was necessary. The Sikhs in this website were going to get angry anyway.

[Cunard]

I think you are confused at the fact why khalsa was created to seperate itself from the hindu and muslims. Not to become a sub catorgory but a self own religion. The guru granth sahib does have its own identity and scriptures which is different to hinduism

Yes guru nanak dev ji was born into a khatri family and took along hindu influences into sikhi.


Your pasting and copying skills are not doing you any justice either.

exactly..just as islam and christianity has ties to jews......but even with these ties all three religions are seperate...you wont see jews or muslims trying to force one another under there own umbrella


its cause of idiots like the ones in this thread.....these are same elementes of the right wing hindu groups like the RSS and VHP

[Sikh4Lyfe]

Can someoen explain this shit to me? Im not even drunk or high and still dont understand this...

[notoriou$punjabi]

Religion serves the purpose of its followers.

The needs of Sikhs abroad are different from those who live in India which in turn are different from Sikhs who lived in the past.

I say this about all religions. I don't know why this thread was necessary. The Sikhs in this website were going to get angry anyway.
Not one open minded sikh who can think out the box will be mad at something as genuine as this.

Yeah the kids who havent seen past their parents conditioning might... but i dont care about those fools

[Space-Cowboy]

the guru granth sahib nowhere states that sikhs are hindus

its not my ego that is in question..it is yours

hindus for years have been pissed that 800 million of them could not fatham to achieve what a small minority of sikhs have...so instead they come out with shit like this to make themselves feel better


I don't support the OP, but what is it you think that all 800 million Hindus haven't realized yet?

And do keep in mind that there are several sects in Hinduism that directly oppose worshipping towards statues in favour of meditation.


And do keep in mind, that 'Vedics' don't consider themselves 'Hindus' as much as they consider themselves 'Vedantic'.... and delve DEEPER into the Philosophy, and Yoga, and Meditation.

So if you're going to accuse the OP of generalizing, don't do the same on your end.

And forget this thread. All of it. If you're really curious about Vedic Philosophy, **I** have a thread in the SD talking SPECIFICALLY about that. But if you don't care, then don't generalize about what Hinduism is and don't generalize about what Vedic Philosophy is. And know that those two are DIFFERENT. As it stands, you're just giving the OP more fuel.

[notoriou$punjabi]

so according to Cunards calculations there were 800 million hindus thru out the last 10 centuries ?

not one more or one less

[harvey_mayway]

So, what you're trying to say is.......


I was thinkin that...

[notoriou$punjabi]

I don't support the OP, but what is it you think that all 800 million Hindus haven't realized yet?

And do keep in mind that there are several sects in Hinduism that directly oppose worshipping towards statues in favour of meditation.


And do keep in mind, that 'Vedics' don't consider themselves 'Hindus' as much as they consider themselves 'Vedantic'.... and delve DEEPER into the Philosophy, and Yoga, and Meditation.

So if you're going to accuse the OP of generalizing, don't do the same on your end.

And forget this thread. All of it. If you're really curious about Vedic Philosophy, **I** have a thread in the SD talking SPECIFICALLY about that. But if you don't care, then don't generalize about what Hinduism is and don't generalize about what Vedic Philosophy is. And know that those two are DIFFERENT. As it stands, you're just giving the OP more fuel.
i dont know why you gotta bother... he aint gon' listen.

[Space-Cowboy]

i dont know why you gotta bother... he aint gon' listen.


I'm here to defend Vedic Philosophy. I'm Vedic. Hindus can defend Hinduism.

[notoriou$punjabi]

The way i see it the only problem among sikhs and hindus should be about the Role Brahmans played

All this shit talk about how we are totally different isnt worth a damn.. atleast make a credible point that is supported by what you beileve in

If you can't then learn to accept new things....

maybe yall kids wanna try telling your parents about this n see what they say

[notoriou$punjabi]

I'm here to defend Vedic Philosophy. I'm Vedic. Hindus can defend Hinduism.
its not to be shared among fools and be mocked at

If you are very happy knowing this stuff then keep it to yourself as you should now the path to salavation is to be taken by self

[PuNjabi_RaNi*]

Listen to me instead, I have both Sikh family members as well as Buddhist ones. [I'm Hindu]

And yes, Sikhism and Hinduism are two different religions.

But also so you know 2 things:

-. Vedic Philosophy in NOT the same as Hinduism Vedic Philosophy is a much deeper and spiritual analysis [PHILOSOPHY] of the Universe, Existence, God/Ultimate Reality [Brahman], Nirvana, and our place [or "non-place", rather], in all of this.

-Hinduism doesn't believe in 'idol worship'. Hinduism prays 'towards' statues, to invoke Narayan [the dualistic, formless, aspect of Brahman] for worship. The One God [in the dualistic sense] is still being worshipped, not the 'idol'.


[I personally don't believe in worship/prayer, I believe in meditation]

Pardon me puttara :hug:

I do understand that hinduism does only believe in the concept of one god, the "idols" as i might have mentioned are attributes of God, As islam has 99 names for Allah.

[notoriou$punjabi]

Can someoen explain this shit to me? Im not even drunk or high and still dont understand this...
sometimes its just better to use your own head than always listening to others

You being sober right now shouldve know that

[bad_cheque]

Can someoen explain this shit to me? Im not even drunk or high and still dont understand this...
I think he is trying to say that at one extreme Sikhism is just a subclass of Hinduism or at the other extreme that Sikhism is related to Hinduism.

[harvey_mayway]

Sikhism is the youngest of the world's four great monotheistic religions. It was founded in the 15th Century by Guru Nanak.
The view that Sikhism is a variety of Hinduism is completely wrong, and gives great offence to Sikhs.

[Cunard]

Sikhism is the youngest of the world's four great monotheistic religions. It was founded in the 15th Century by Guru Nanak.
The view that Sikhism is a variety of Hinduism is completely wrong, and gives great offence to Sikhs.

exactly why some right wing hindus keep saying it

[Space-Cowboy]

Pardon me puttara :hug:

I do understand that hinduism does only believe in the concept of one god, the "idols" as i might have mentioned are attributes of God, As islam has 99 names for Allah.


I'm reading through the Granth Sahib currently, it's awesome :D.



I believe ALL paths, ALL faiths are valid when done with a pure heart, with Oneness of Reality and Self Enlightenment [One and the Same] in mind :D

[notoriou$punjabi]

Sikhism is the youngest of the world's four great monotheistic religions. It was founded in the 15th Century by Guru Nanak.
The view that Sikhism is a variety of Hinduism is completely wrong, and gives great offence to Sikhs.
First of all Sikhs are no different to me. I grew up among sikhs.


Secondaly Khalsa was founded by Guru Gobind Singhji in 1699 in Anandpur Sahib

You as a sikh should have known that but anyhow

Hindu is the name given to Indian society by outsiders/westerners
India has always been based upon the Vedic Principles

[notoriou$punjabi]

exactly why some right wing hindus keep saying it
what part of Get the Fuck out dont you understand and keep coming back with your bullshit

Why turn a thread dealing with religious/historical era from India into junk ?

Its not even your country to begin with as youve previously said.

Can some1 get this mod to back the fuck up

[Space-Cowboy]

Sikhism is the youngest of the world's four great monotheistic religions. It was founded in the 15th Century by Guru Nanak.
The view that Sikhism is a variety of Hinduism is completely wrong, and gives great offence to Sikhs.


I agree, don't worry, I'm not like that

[Cunard]

First of all Sikhs are no different to me. I grew up among sikhs.


Secondaly Khalsa was founded by Guru Gobind Singhji in 1699 in Anandpur Sahib

You as a sikh should have known that but anyhow

Hindu is the name given to Indian society by outsiders/westerners
India has always been based upon the Vedic Principles

the khalsa is just another element of sikhi...sikhi improved and grew over the span of all ten gurus....so infact sikhi was first established bu guru nanal devji when he broke away from the tenents hinduism and islam


just because guru nanak devji was born into a hindu family means nothing...jesus christ was born a jew....does that mean christianity is an offshoot of judaism?

[notoriou$punjabi]

I agree, don't worry, I'm not like that
I pity you man.

Im all for religious equality, economic progress and so forth. Not at the cost of being an outcast Hindu Punjabi though, feel me ?

[bad_cheque]

Sikhism is the youngest of the world's four great monotheistic religions. It was founded in the 15th Century by Guru Nanak.
The view that Sikhism is a variety of Hinduism is completely wrong, and gives great offence to Sikhs.
I think it started off as one and evolved into something quite different.

[notoriou$punjabi]

the khalsa is just another element of sikhi...sikhi improved and grew over the span of all ten gurus....so infact sikhi was first established bu guru nanal devji when he broke away from the tenents hinduism and islam


just because guru nanak devji was born into a hindu family means nothing...jesus christ was born a jew....does that mean christianity is an offshoot of judaism?
I havent mentioned anything about Guru Nank Devjis birth in this thread so leave the other threads behind.

Do you even have power to view things with new/neutral prespectives ?

Sikh in punjabi means "Student". So Guru has students... whats new with that ?

The fact ive put forward is that We regardless of reading the scriptures in Dev Nagari and Sikhs in Gurmukhi are after the same material

[Space-Cowboy]

what part of Get the Fuck out dont you understand and keep coming back with your bullshit

Why turn a thread dealing with religious/historical era from India into junk ?

Its not even your country to begin with as youve previously said.

Can some1 get this mod to back the fuck up


Calm down, you're making us Hindus look bad :idea:







Cunard, the Vedic Philosophy thread IS there in the SD.... I'll almost pay you to go check it out............. really.........



[I said 'almost' ;) ]