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Tigr
September 30th, 2006, 07:00 AM
Why are pakistani's so jealous of India's progress. What is it in their genetic make up that gives them the inferiority complex. First their historians try to deny any link with Indian history trying to prove they are part of middle east. Oh well...must be bad karma of previous life to be born as a Pakistani...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060930/ap_on_re_as/india_train_bombings

ermsomething
September 30th, 2006, 07:04 AM
:no:

dopekhor
September 30th, 2006, 07:11 AM
I wonder if something happens, why do they always look at Pakistan?


and do you count India's progress just by Banglore and Bombay?

Arshy
September 30th, 2006, 07:12 AM
Why are pakistani's so jealous of India's progress. What is it in their genetic make up that gives them the inferiority complex. First their historians try to deny any link with Indian history trying to prove they are part of middle east. Oh well...must be bad karma of previous life to be born as a Pakistani...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060930/ap_on_re_as/india_train_bombings
I read somewhere in a survey that pakistani people are far more attractive than their indian counterparts....

ermsomething
September 30th, 2006, 07:13 AM
I read somewhere in a survey that pakistani people are far more attractive than their indian counterparts....

Looks aren't everything if you dont have food on the plate ;)

Arshy
September 30th, 2006, 07:14 AM
Looks aren't everything if you dont have food on the plate ;)
i fully agree with you...believe or not i actually respect you...!

-sgt-
September 30th, 2006, 07:15 AM
i predit a India vs Pakistan bashing thread about to happen...

take cover :|

Arshy
September 30th, 2006, 07:16 AM
i predit a India vs Pakistan bashing thread about to happen...

take cover :|
does it have the "50 page" potential?

dopekhor
September 30th, 2006, 07:16 AM
i predit a India vs Pakistan bashing thread about to happen...

take cover :|
that was the intention of the thread creator!

-sgt-
September 30th, 2006, 07:17 AM
does it have the "50 page" potential?

lol, u can be the decider m8 :p

Arshy
September 30th, 2006, 07:18 AM
lol, u can be the decider m8 :p
well if we keep posting random comments ...it sure has!

-sgt-
September 30th, 2006, 07:20 AM
well if we keep posting random comments ...it sure has!
well, lets leave the job to the pros to take it ova the line!

ermsomething
September 30th, 2006, 07:20 AM
I wonder if something happens, why do they always look at Pakistan?


and do you count India's progress just by Banglore and Bombay?
If the past problems have been with pakistanis then its highly likely to be those guys again...

Its like If something is stolen and there are only 2 people who could have been responsible for it, one being white and another being black. Who are you most likely to suspect? The black guy because in the past they're "brothers" have given them a bad rep.

kaseem
September 30th, 2006, 07:26 AM
"We reject this allegation, and demand that India should provide us any evidence, if they have,"

dopekhor
September 30th, 2006, 07:28 AM
If the past problems have been with pakistanis then its highly likely to be those guys again...

Its like If something is stolen and there are only 2 people who could have been responsible for it, one being white and another being black. Who are you most likely to suspect? The black guy because in the past they're "brothers" have given them a bad rep.
well unlike the black dude india count pin anything on pakistan! could they?

dopekhor
September 30th, 2006, 07:29 AM
"We reject this allegation, and demand that India should provide us any evidence, if they have,"
its just like WMD's in iraq

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 07:31 AM
"We reject this allegation, and demand that India should provide us any evidence, if they have,"

Well well well....Did we expect anything else. :cool2: And also regaring proof which that Tariq dude asked..,like Pakistan is going to suck it up and take the blame if proof was presented. Plz :hand:

Tigr
September 30th, 2006, 07:31 AM
I read somewhere in a survey that pakistani people are far more attractive than their indian counterparts....

'I am prettier than you' is the final Pakistani comback. Considering that most westerners can't tell the difference between an arab or a bangladeshi.....I wonder where the survey was taken. In my own survey I was the voted the prettiest desi in print or real life.

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 07:32 AM
well unlike the black dude india count pin anything on pakistan! could they?


Why you getting all worked up for. You are a bangladeshi arent you? And remember, Pakistan aint gonna do shit to BD in times of trouble. I dont see any major contribution frm Paki land if there are floods or drought in BD. :ugh2:

ermsomething
September 30th, 2006, 07:33 AM
well unlike the black dude india count pin anything on pakistan! could they?
we'll have to wait and see...

India's intelligence is not so poor, so im sure they are not totally off-target.

The bombs which went off in the market last diwali (i think it was then :think: ) was done by pakistani kashmiri's, who got caught...

Killa7
September 30th, 2006, 07:36 AM
They need to bring evidence rather then talking shit. In other words no one believes India's claims.

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 07:36 AM
we'll have to wait and see...

India's intelligence is not so poor, so im sure they are not totally off-target.

The bombs which went off in the market last diwali (i think :think: ) was done by pakistani kashmiri's, who got caught...

Man, Indian intelligence is one of the best when it comes to politics in the middle east. And just watch all the pakis gettin pissed off abt this supposed "allegation". And then counter blame India for religious riots. :ugh:

kaseem
September 30th, 2006, 07:37 AM
Well well well....Did we expect anything else. :cool2: And also regaring proof which that Tariq dude asked..,like Pakistan is going to suck it up and take the blame if proof was presented. Plz :hand:


Proof plz, cant just make wild accusations without any any hardcore evidence you know this already.

dopekhor
September 30th, 2006, 07:37 AM
we'll have to wait and see...

India's intelligence is not so poor, so im sure they are not totally off-target.

The bombs which went off in the market last diwali (i think it was then :think: ) was done by pakistani kashmiri's, who got caught...
easier to frame them no?

ever heard of indias support to the balauch movement?

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 07:37 AM
They need to bring evidence rather then talking shit. In other words no one believes India's claims.


Oh OK, Mr Kofi Annan....we were just waitin for ur kind direction and approval in this matter :ugh2:

Killa7
September 30th, 2006, 07:37 AM
India always has to link everything to Pakistan, then link that to Kashmir.

dopekhor
September 30th, 2006, 07:38 AM
Why you getting all worked up for. You are a bangladeshi arent you? And remember, Pakistan aint gonna do shit to BD in times of trouble. I dont see any major contribution frm Paki land if there are floods or drought in BD. :ugh2:
its not about doing.. most of my fam still lives there

Tigr
September 30th, 2006, 07:39 AM
we'll have to wait and see...

India's intelligence is not so poor, so im sure they are not totally off-target.

The bombs which went off in the market last diwali (i think it was then :think: ) was done by pakistani kashmiri's, who got caught...

Its not too hard to keep secrets in Pakistan (or india) as desis being what they are will squeal when offered money. Money for son's education in Amreeka. Savings for a girls wedding...all that shit takes money and there's not too many sources of that in Pakistan with the economy what it is.

-sgt-
September 30th, 2006, 07:39 AM
Oh OK, Mr Kofi Annan....we were just waitin for ur kind direction and approval in this matter :ugh2:

i was awaiting for ur arrival in this thread :p

how u been m8?

Killa7
September 30th, 2006, 07:40 AM
Oh OK, Mr Kofi Annan....we were just waitin for ur kind direction and approval in this matter :ugh2:


Dude I can say India has killed my pet. Without evidence it means nothing but rhetoric.

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 07:40 AM
Proof plz, cant just make wild accusations without any any hardcore evidence you know this already.


Oh it will be presented. Dont worry....esp after the Indian govt announced it, means that they have more than ample evidence. I am pretty sure u are aware that it takes a while for the "full" report to be publicly issued right.

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 07:41 AM
India always has to link everything to Pakistan, then link that to Kashmir.


While you are the one "inter-linking" all these concocted bullshit in your head. Whatever drug u use...sure does keep u stoned all the time.

ermsomething
September 30th, 2006, 07:42 AM
Man, Indian intelligence is one of the best when it comes to politics in the middle east. And just watch all the pakis gettin pissed off abt this supposed "allegation". And then counter blame India for religious riots. :ugh:
yeh its quite bloody stupid....

Pakistan was the first to condemn the attacks on the trains, which was like an hr or so after it took place! .... :no: talk about the word GUILTY written all over it lol

Its like chris rock says - "you only know shit, coz YOU was doing shit"

Killa7
September 30th, 2006, 07:42 AM
Oh it will be presented. Dont worry....esp after the Indian govt announced it, means that they have more than ample evidence. I am pretty sure u are aware that it takes a while for the "full" report to be publicly issued right.


Yeah ample proof. Coming from RAW agents. In one of them was quoted as saying "Nukes? we don't fear them we were down in earthquakes but we go through them nukes don't mean anything we would get through it" - Errm yeah sure you would mate!

Tigr
September 30th, 2006, 07:43 AM
India always has to link everything to Pakistan, then link that to Kashmir.

But then Pakistan is obsessed about Kashmir. In an early interview, Musharraff said that Kashmir is the only objective....without Kashmir Pakistan cannot survive. I don't understand the logic behind that, but the source of Pakistan's military power is their attention to Kashmir and keeping up trouble with India.

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 07:44 AM
Yeah ample proof. Coming from RAW agents. In one of them was quoted as saying "Nukes? we don't fear them we were down in earthquakes but we go through them nukes don't mean anything we would get through it" - Errm yeah sure you would mate!


How bout you take a while and reconstruct that sentence, and this time, try to make it atleast vaguely understandable.

Killa7
September 30th, 2006, 07:44 AM
While you are the one "inter-linking" all these concocted bullshit in your head. Whatever drug u use...sure does keep u stoned all the time.


India is just shit, and overpopulated. They should be thinking the ISI (if it was them) for some "population" control.

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 07:46 AM
i was awaiting for ur arrival in this thread :p

how u been m8?


Wazzupity Sup Dawg http://smiliesftw.com/x/highfive.gif

ermsomething
September 30th, 2006, 07:46 AM
India is just shit, and overpopulated. They should be thinking the ISI (if it was them) for some "population" control.
Yep india is shit and overpopulated, thats why we're ahead of you economically and your country is struggling to keep up..

Killa7
September 30th, 2006, 07:46 AM
How bout you take a while and reconstruct that sentence, and this time, try to make it atleast vaguely understandable.

No, a polygon is not a dead parrot.

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 07:47 AM
India is just shit, and overpopulated. They should be thinking the ISI (if it was them) for some "population" control.


Your jealousy is seeping thru the air, thru the internet and emitting out of my monitor Paki......I feel for you.....Sucks to be born a paki eh.

-sgt-
September 30th, 2006, 07:47 AM
Wazzupity Sup Dawg http://smiliesftw.com/x/highfive.gif

nm m8, jus chillin, its night here in melbourne

im waitin for the dramatic entrance of space-cowboy
i lik his intrepretations!

-sgt-
September 30th, 2006, 07:48 AM
India always has to link everything to Pakistan, then link that to Kashmir.

lol, y u gettin all hyped up man?

Its the terrorists groups that are located in Pakistan that fund the muslims in India. These are the people that the Indian Government want so that future prevention of terrorist attakcs could be undertaken.

ermsomething
September 30th, 2006, 07:48 AM
nm m8, jus chillin, its night here in melbourne

im waitin for the dramatic entrance of space-cowboy
i lik his intrepretations!
lol same

dopekhor
September 30th, 2006, 07:50 AM
Oh it will be presented. Dont worry....esp after the Indian govt announced it, means that they have more than ample evidence. I am pretty sure u are aware that it takes a while for the "full" report to be publicly issued right.
just like its taking mr bush like more then 6yrs to make a report on wmd's in iraq

Killa7
September 30th, 2006, 07:50 AM
Yep india is shit and overpopulated, thats why we're ahead of you economically and your country it struggling to keep up..


India is 3 times the size of Pakistan. Pakistan's real GDP growth is 6.90 % while India's is 7.60 - considering India is 3 times the size of Pakistan, Pakistan is doing excellent to even keep up.

Ref: https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2003rank.html

-sgt-
September 30th, 2006, 07:50 AM
lol same

hey, u in india?

ermsomething
September 30th, 2006, 07:51 AM
hey, u in india?
nah UK

ermsomething
September 30th, 2006, 07:52 AM
India is 3 times the size of Pakistan. Pakistan's real GDP growth is 6.90 % while India's is 7.60 - considering India is 3 times the size of Pakistan, Pakistan is doing excellent to even keep up.

Ref: https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2003rank.html
What ever India does, you guys follow...

So you admit, you are behind? my point proven. and you still think its shit and overpopulated?

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 07:52 AM
There...Breakin news.



Fifteen people have been arrested in the case so far of which twelve are said to be directly involved in the conspiracy. The case against the other three is still being worked out.

According to Roy, the conspiracy was planned in Mumbai and adjoining areas. Some of the Pakistanis involved in the plan received training at the Bahawalpur camp in Pakistan.

The main culprits are Faizal Sheikh, Kamaluddin Ansari and Ehtasham Siddiqui. Siddiqui is the General Secretary of SIMI's Maharashtra branch.

No Qaeda link

There is no Al-qaeda or 9/11 links to the blasts. Roy revealed that the unclaimed body was that of Salim, the only militant to have died in the attacks.

The bombs were kept in eight pressure cookers of five-litre capacity which were bought from two shops. Each bomb contained two to 2.5 kg of RDX and 3.5 to four kg of ammonium nitrate.

The pressure cookers were kept inside bags which were in turn camouflaged in things like newspapers and umbrellas, Roy said.

.....

http://www.ndtv.com/breakingnews/default.asp?refno=930200645624PM




When u ask for evidence...Even during the Sept 11 commision, Names were released to the general public. Not every tom dick and harry would get to see the official proof in detail.

And also, If India had to convict Pakistan...they cud have done that long time back. Why wait all this long? Does it even make sense? But Nooooooo....:ugh:

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 07:53 AM
just like its taking mr bush like more then 6yrs to make a report on wmd's in iraq


My above post^^

Killa7
September 30th, 2006, 07:54 AM
What ever India does, you guys follow...

So you admit, you are behind? my point proven.

India being 3 times the size of Pakistan, and constantly attacking sovereign lands of Pakistan yes then the bully (India) is going to be ahead economically.

-sgt-
September 30th, 2006, 07:55 AM
India being 3 times the size of Pakistan, and constantly attacking sovereign lands of Pakistan yes then the bully (India) is going to be ahead economically.

i dont see their name on it :sarb:

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 07:55 AM
India is 3 times the size of Pakistan. Pakistan's real GDP growth is 6.90 % while India's is 7.60 - considering India is 3 times the size of Pakistan, Pakistan is doing excellent to even keep up.

Ref: https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2003rank.html


Thats the growth rate....And no...considering India's huge population....Such a minimal growth is more admirable u dickwad. Learn some statistics first.

ermsomething
September 30th, 2006, 07:56 AM
India being 3 times the size of Pakistan, and constantly attacking sovereign lands of Pakistan yes then the bully (India) is going to be ahead economically.
we dont bully other peoples land, you guys have nothing better to do then cause trouble...India has been concentrating on leaving the "third world" branding, whilst you guys want us to stay there.

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 07:57 AM
India being 3 times the size of Pakistan, and constantly attacking sovereign lands of Pakistan yes then the bully (India) is going to be ahead economically.


Dude India is greater than Pakistan like a billion times in terms of economy. Every one knows that. Ur fighting a loosing cause..even ur fellow pakis would agree with that. just the software export of India would beat ur National allocated budget.

Killa7
September 30th, 2006, 07:58 AM
Thats the growth rate....And no...considering India's huge population....Such a minimal growth is more admirable u dickwad. Learn some statistics first.


Dude fool thats the economy GDP growth not the population growth. lol



Gross Domestic Product - GDP
The monetary value of all the finished goods and services produced within a country's borders in a specific time period, though GDP is usually calculated on an annual basis. It includes all of private and public consumption, government outlays, investments and exports less imports that occur within a defined territory.

GDP = C + G + I + NX

where:

"C" is equal to all private consumption, or consumer spending, in a nation's economy
"G" is the sum of government spending
"I" is the sum of all the country's businesses spending on capital
"NX" is the nation's total net exports, calculated as total exports minus total imports. (NX = Exports - Imports)

Investopedia Says: GDP is commonly used as an indicator of the economic health of a country, as well as to gauge a country's standard of living. Critics of using GDP as an economic measure say the statistic does not take into account the underground economy - transactions that, for whatever reason, are not reported to the government. Others say that GDP is not intended to gauge material well-being, but serves as a measure of a nation's productivity, which is unrelated.

-sgt-
September 30th, 2006, 08:00 AM
Dude fool thats the economy GDP growth not the population growth. lol

thnx for da Explanation Mr.Einstein

:gay:

dopekhor
September 30th, 2006, 08:00 AM
lol, y u gettin all hyped up man?

Its the terrorists groups that are located in Pakistan that fund the muslims in India. These are the people that the Indian Government want so that future prevention of terrorist attakcs could be undertaken.
what about the terrorists who destroyed the babri masjid or the terrorists behind the gujrat riots, i dont see any action taken by the indian government against them

Killa7
September 30th, 2006, 08:01 AM
Where the hell do you get these idiots from? Did their moms teach them economics or something?

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 08:01 AM
Dude fool thats the economy GDP growth not the population growth. lol


Did u just give me a fuckin mini lecture on GDP? I meant that was the GDP growth rate!!!! On the website which u linked. Not the actul GDP.

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 08:02 AM
Where the hell do you get these idiots from? Did their moms teach them economics or something?

woah...are we gettin a way too ahead here now? Assumptions are the mother of all fuckups...which u Pakis are doing a good job of.

-sgt-
September 30th, 2006, 08:03 AM
what about the terrorists who destroyed the babri masjid or the terrorists behind the gujrat riots, i dont see any action taken by the indian government against them

wat do u suggest?? any advice?

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 08:04 AM
what about the terrorists who destroyed the babri masjid or the terrorists behind the gujrat riots, i dont see any action taken by the indian government against them


We are discussing abt Pakis involvement in 7/11. can we spare the babri masjid and gujrat for someother time?

Tigr
September 30th, 2006, 08:04 AM
what about the terrorists who destroyed the babri masjid or the terrorists behind the gujrat riots, i dont see any action taken by the indian government against them

Typical.. All actions have to end with what about Gujrat? what about babri masjid. Lets nuke all muslim world and say..what about all the missing hindus in afghanistan?

Killa7
September 30th, 2006, 08:05 AM
Did u just give me a fuckin mini lecture on GDP? I meant that was the GDP growth rate!!!! On the website which u linked. Not the actul GDP.

You insanely idiotic person. The real GDP is the actual growth rate of the economy. The higher the GDP the better the economy is doing if inflation is on check. Maintaining a real GDP growth of over 6% is excellent for any economy.

Actually dude don't waste my time I don't have time to teach you 7th grade stuff.

lili420
September 30th, 2006, 08:06 AM
ok, like it says in the article...india needs to show some evidence.
its only obvious india will say pakistan did it, its always like that...and these days putting it on the muslims using the word "islamic militant" is the very easy way out. whoever did needs to pay for it, and for taht you need to provide evidence. if you are just blamig it on a particular party cause you cant fine the real culprit...your letting the criminals get away. thats weak

dopekhor
September 30th, 2006, 08:06 AM
There...Breakin news.




When u ask for evidence...Even during the Sept 11 commision, Names were released to the general public. Not every tom dick and harry would get to see the official proof in detail.

And also, If India had to convict Pakistan...they cud have done that long time back. Why wait all this long? Does it even make sense? But Nooooooo....:ugh:
i am sure you have heard of that one of the pictures of the 9/11 terrorists released by the CIA matches that of a man living in egypt and he didnt know jack shit about al quaida

-sgt-
September 30th, 2006, 08:06 AM
Typical.. All actions have to end with what about Gujrat? what about babri masjid. Lets nuke all muslim world and say..what about all the missing hindus in afghanistan?

i guess its their last resort to a decent debate...

dopekhor
September 30th, 2006, 08:07 AM
wat do u suggest?? any advice?
the main man who backed it all is the chief minister of gujrat!

-sgt-
September 30th, 2006, 08:07 AM
You insanely idiotic person. The real GDP is the actual growth rate of the economy. The higher the GDP the better the economy is doing if inflation is on check. Maintaining a real GDP growth of over 6% is excellent for any economy.

Actually dude don't waste my time I don't have time to teach you 7th grade stuff.

man, thnx for da economics class, but lets stick to da topic

cheers m8!

-sgt-
September 30th, 2006, 08:08 AM
the main man who backed it all is the chief minister of gujrat!

lol, it always has to come down to the gujarat issue??

dopekhor
September 30th, 2006, 08:10 AM
Typical.. All actions have to end with what about Gujrat? what about babri masjid. Lets nuke all muslim world and say..what about all the missing hindus in afghanistan?
since you brought up the fact that india is taking up hard measures against terrorism and all, i just inquired what india is going against the terrorists behind the babri masjid and gujrat riots

dopekhor
September 30th, 2006, 08:13 AM
lol, it always has to come down to the gujarat issue??
and issue big like that needs to be shelved?

why dont u indians admit that you guys are no better then paki when it comes to protecting minorities, whereas the number of minorities in pakistan is way less then that of india

Tigr
September 30th, 2006, 08:13 AM
You insanely idiotic person. The real GDP is the actual growth rate of the economy. The higher the GDP the better the economy is doing if inflation is on check. Maintaining a real GDP growth of over 6% is excellent for any economy.

Actually dude don't waste my time I don't have time to teach you 7th grade stuff.

You write like you are in kinder garden and you don't understand the concept of growth in GDP. Lets make it simple for you. If Pakistan's economy is worth a $100, the India's economy is worth $10,000. A 6% increase in Pakistan's economy is only $6, while a 6% increase in India's economy is worth $600. It doesn't take much to earn $6, while it takes a lot more to earn $600.

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 08:14 AM
i am sure you have heard of that one of the pictures of the 9/11 terrorists released by the CIA matches that of a man living in egypt and he didnt know jack shit about al quaida


oh please..can we lay down the conspiracy theories aside here....Just one man? WTF? Whatever dude....like I said, u shudnt be talkin..ur Bangladeshi.

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 08:17 AM
You insanely idiotic person. The real GDP is the actual growth rate of the economy. The higher the GDP the better the economy is doing if inflation is on check. Maintaining a real GDP growth of over 6% is excellent for any economy.

Actually dude don't waste my time I don't have time to teach you 7th grade stuff.


WTF are u talkin abt? What you posted was GDP rate growth....Not the actual GDP!!! What part of that shit dont u fuckin get?

Here...is the link.



India is now 10th largest economy

July 13, 2005 16:12 IST


India is now amongst the top ten economies in the world.

According to the World Bank gross domestic product rankings for the year 2004, India stands the tenth largest economy in the world with a GDP of $691.876 billion.
The table below gives the rankings for the top 20 economies in the world.

The rest of the rankings can be had at the World Bank Web site for the GDP figures: http://www.worldbank.org/data/quickreference/quickref.html

India's GDP was 691.876 Billion and is ranked in top 10!!!!

http://in.rediff.com/money/2005/jul/13gdp.htm

counter strike
September 30th, 2006, 08:18 AM
I think pakistan and bangledesh should shut the fuk up join up with the Indian union, It will solve alot of regional problems with insurgency groups (Baluchi,Pakthoon,Kashmiri,Khalistan,Assam,etc) in both pakistan and india. Besides their are more muslims in India than pakistan. So Jinnah's 2 nation theory did not work and his secular ideals for modern pakistan did not hold any weight as history has shown. At the current rate that white strip covering 30% of the pakistani flag should be removed and replaced with a 3% line of white due to ethnic cleasening/genocide carried out on religious and ethnic minorities in that region by religious zealots. What is the current population of muslims now? 97% the rest 2% christians 1% others. Need I say any more.....

-sgt-
September 30th, 2006, 08:19 AM
and issue big like that needs to be shelved?

why dont u indians admit that you guys are no better then paki when it comes to protecting minorities, whereas the number of minorities in pakistan is way less then that of india

maybe the indian government wants to tackle issues such as the terrorists attacks, which can cause a greater number of casulties and feel that a it is a number 1 priority.

And there by saying that, it doesnt mean that they may have not taken ANY action regarding that of the gujrat riots, but they will in the near future.

As you can see, the whole world is gripped into a new phenonmenon, thnx to the 9/11 bombings, more terrorists attacks have been undertaken, and every country has a right to make that a number 1 priority, which is National security.

Tigr
September 30th, 2006, 08:19 AM
and issue big like that needs to be shelved?

why dont u indians admit that you guys are no better then paki when it comes to protecting minorities, whereas the number of minorities in pakistan is way less then that of india

Why aren't minorities struggling to move out of India? Why are minority celebrities making statements like 'muslims have better future in India than Pakistan.' Why are minorities seen at every level of economical and political ladder in India.

-sgt-
September 30th, 2006, 08:20 AM
I think pakistan and bangledesh should shut the fuk up join up with the Indian union, It will solve alot of regional problems with insurgency groups (Baluchi,Pakthoon,Kashmiri,Khalistan,Assam,etc) in both pakistan and india. Besides their are more muslims in India than pakistan. So Jinnah's 2 nation theory did not work and his secular ideals for modern pakistan did not hold any weight as history has shown. At the current rate that white strip on the pakistani flag should be removed and replaced with a line of white due to ethnic cleasening/genocide carried out on religious and ethnic minorities in that region by religious zealots. What is the current population of muslims now? 97% the rest 2% christians 1% others. Need I say any more.....

:roflbow:

i like the way u think m8 :p

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 08:22 AM
I think pakistan and bangledesh should shut the fuk up join up with the Indian union, It will solve alot of regional problems with insurgency groups (Baluchi,Pakthoon,Kashmiri,Khalistan,Assam,etc) in both pakistan and india. Besides their are more muslims in India than pakistan. So Jinnah's 2 nation theory did not work and his secular ideals for modern pakistan did not hold any weight as history has shown. At the current rate that white strip covering 30% of the pakistani flag should be removed and replaced with a 3% line of white due to ethnic cleasening/genocide carried out on religious and ethnic minorities in that region by religious zealots. What is the current population of muslims now? 97% the rest 2% christians 1% others. Need I say any more.....

What about Nepal, Bhutan, Sri Lanka, Maldives?

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 08:24 AM
and issue big like that needs to be shelved?

why dont u indians admit that you guys are no better then paki when it comes to protecting minorities, whereas the number of minorities in pakistan is way less then that of india



Your obvious hatred toward India is quite apparent. I am not going to argue meaninglessly abt ur frivolous accusations? Who said there are "attrocities" commited against Minoriteis...that too in fckin India. If any...They lead the best fuckin life as every other Indian. No wonder...most of the Muslims have NO TO MINIMAL TIES with any counter paki or bangladeshi families...except for those with extremist intent. Minorities are doing way better than u expect....All these Gujrat and Babri Masjid incidents which u cite....they are communal riots!!!! You are way seeped with hatred that its pointless to even explain.

dopekhor
September 30th, 2006, 08:27 AM
oh please..can we lay down the conspiracy theories aside here....Just one man? WTF? Whatever dude....like I said, u shudnt be talkin..ur Bangladeshi.
well if you read that report properly, you would have read that india is also pointing a finger at bangladesh!

Tigr
September 30th, 2006, 08:28 AM
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dopekhor
September 30th, 2006, 08:32 AM
Your obvious hatred toward India is quite apparent. I am not going to argue meaninglessly abt ur frivolous accusations? Who said there are "attrocities" commited against Minoriteis...that too in fckin India. If any...They lead the best fuckin life as every other Indian. No wonder...most of the Muslims have NO TO MINIMAL TIES with any counter paki or bangladeshi families...except for those with extremist intent. Minorities are doing way better than u expect....All these Gujrat and Babri Masjid incidents which u cite....they are communal riots!!!! You are way seeped with hatred that its pointless to even explain.
gujrat yes. but provoked by some hindu extremists, whom which you decline to lable as terrorists

i doubt the destruction of the babri masjid was out of shear communal violence it was a result of years of hindu extremist planing

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 08:36 AM
gujrat yes. but provoked by some hindu extremists, whom which you decline to lable as terrorists

i doubt the destruction of the babri masjid was out of shear communal violence it was a result of years of hindu extremist planing


OK...agreed. But u know what??? Even most of the current BJP members would agree that what they did was wrong. Not the RSS or VHP or whatever hardcore Hinduvata movement ppl.. Vajpayee the then BJP prime minister was against it.

But the MOST important thing for you to understand is.....YOUR SO CALLED "INDIAN EXTREMISTS" DONT CROSS BORDERS AND KILL PPL!!!! MUSIMS IN INDIA ARE INDIANS ASWELL...YOU DONT HAVE TO BUNNY UP AND SIDE WITH THEM AS IF U R GETTIN AFFECTED. THEY ARE INDIANS, AND THEY ARE QUITE PROUD OF IT AND WE WOULD DO JUST GREAT IF U KEEP UR EXTREMIST IDEAS TO URSELF AND STOP POLLUTING THE INDIAN MUSLISM!!!!!

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 08:39 AM
wOULD ALL NON INDIANS NOT WORRY ABT MUSLIMS IN INDIA PLEASE!!! LIKE WHATS THE DEAL? YOU HAVE TO WATCH EVERYONES BACK NOW??? AND WHEN THERE IS NOTHING GOING ON, U GO AHEAD AND KILL URSELF IN NAME OF SHIA, SUNNI, OR WHATEVER ....WHAT DOES THAT SHOW???

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 08:41 AM
B]YOUR SO CALLED "INDIAN EXTREMISTS" DONT CROSS BORDERS AND KILL PPL!!!! [/B]

Are you sure of that?

RAW made attempt on my life in Lanka: Pak envoy

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan’s High Commissioner to Sri Lanka Col (r) Bashir Wali Mohammad has accused India’s external intelligence agency - the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) - of having masterminded the attempt on his life in Colombo a few weeks ago, The Asian Age reports.

http://www.pakistanlink.com/Headlines/Sep06/03/05.htm

-sgt-
September 30th, 2006, 08:43 AM
Are you sure of that?

RAW made attempt on my life in Lanka: Pak envoy

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan’s High Commissioner to Sri Lanka Col (r) Bashir Wali Mohammad has accused India’s external intelligence agency - the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) - of having masterminded the attempt on his life in Colombo a few weeks ago, The Asian Age reports.

http://www.pakistanlink.com/Headlines/Sep06/03/05.htm

:rolleyes:

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 08:43 AM
Are you sure of that?

RAW made attempt on my life in Lanka: Pak envoy

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan’s High Commissioner to Sri Lanka Col (r) Bashir Wali Mohammad has accused India’s external intelligence agency - the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) - of having masterminded the attempt on his life in Colombo a few weeks ago, The Asian Age reports.

http://www.pakistanlink.com/Headlines/Sep06/03/05.htm


Oh bitch please.....Seriously, u think India has to gain by inciting war between Pakistan and Srilanka?? :rofl: You kiddin me!!!

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 08:46 AM
YOUR SO CALLED "INDIAN EXTREMISTS" DONT CROSS BORDERS AND KILL PPL!!!!

:neutral: :neutral:

To start with, India gave the Sri Lankan Tamil militant groups red carpet treatment. They were trained in guerrilla warfare and provided with arms, ammunition and financial support. They were permitted to organise training camps in Tamil Nadu.

http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl1424/14240260.htm

Kinda like what India is now accusing Pakistan of eh? :neutral:

I guess what goes around comes around? :neutral:

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 08:48 AM
:neutral: :neutral:

To start with, India gave the Sri Lankan Tamil militant groups red carpet treatment. They were trained in guerrilla warfare and provided with arms, ammunition and financial support. They were permitted to organise training camps in Tamil Nadu.

http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl1424/14240260.htm

Kinda like what India is now accusing Pakistan of eh? :neutral:

I guess what goes around comes around? :neutral:

Bitch that was dated 1997 :ugh2:

I aint reading shit of last decade....whats wrong with this gay!

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 08:48 AM
Cite current politics dude.

ermsomething
September 30th, 2006, 08:50 AM
Are you sure of that?

RAW made attempt on my life in Lanka: Pak envoy

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan’s High Commissioner to Sri Lanka Col (r) Bashir Wali Mohammad has accused India’s external intelligence agency - the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) - of having masterminded the attempt on his life in Colombo a few weeks ago, The Asian Age reports.

http://www.pakistanlink.com/Headlines/Sep06/03/05.htm
great source ;).... lol

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 08:51 AM
YOUR SO CALLED "INDIAN EXTREMISTS" DONT CROSS BORDERS AND KILL PPL!!!!

Strange, India trains and funds a terrorist organization in a neighbouring country, then cries foul at Pakistan :neutral:

For a number of years, India provided training, safe havens, money and weaponry for the LTTE. Boats, often captained by known smugglers, carried trained fighters and arms to Sri Lanka. This is still an active supply in for the LTTE.

http://members.tripod.com/~sosl/fundter.html

-sgt-
September 30th, 2006, 08:51 AM
great source ;).... lol

lol, yeah, it lukd very unbiased :|

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 08:51 AM
I guess what goes around comes around? :neutral:


But hey, thanks for confirming that last line...."What goes arnd comes arnd?" Finally.....someone accepts that there is infact Pakistan infiltrated Terrorism. :hug: Indian Paki Bhai bahi :hug:

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 08:53 AM
great source ;).... lol

RAW tried to assassinate me: ex-Pak envoy to Sri Lanka
http://www.irandefence.net/archive/index.php/t-3507.html

'India behind Sri Lanka blast'
http://ia.rediff.com/news/2006/sep/01sl.htm

Pak diplomat alleges Indian hand in SL blast
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/7598_1783103,000500020000.htm

Sri Lanka:``I was a RAW target’’ Mohammed said
http://www.lankaeverything.com/vinews/srilanka/20060901235228.php

Pakistan: Indian Group Responsible For Attack
http://www.stratfor.com/products/premium/read_article.php?id=274195

Former Pakistani High Commissioner says RAW tried to kill him in Colombo
http://lankapage.wordpress.com/2006/09/02/envoy-wali-explodes-diplomatic-bombshell/

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 08:55 AM
Strange, India trains and funds a terrorist organization in a neighbouring country, then cries foul at Pakistan :neutral:

For a number of years, India provided training, safe havens, money and weaponry for the LTTE. Boats, often captained by known smugglers, carried trained fighters and arms to Sri Lanka. This is still an active supply in for the LTTE.

http://members.tripod.com/~sosl/fundter.html

Quit being oversmart and stop citing retarded articles of last century jackass.

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 08:57 AM
Quit being oversmart and stop citing retarded articles of last century jackass.

India trained and funded a terrorist organization in a neighbouring country that continues to be active, what hypocrisy to cry about Pakistan ;)

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 08:58 AM
'India behind Sri Lanka blast'
http://ia.rediff.com/news/2006/sep/01sl.htm

Pak diplomat alleges Indian hand in SL blast
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/7598_1783103,000500020000.htm

Sri Lanka:``I was a RAW target’’ Mohammed said
http://www.lankaeverything.com/vinews/srilanka/20060901235228.php

Pakistan: Indian Group Responsible For Attack
http://www.stratfor.com/products/premium/read_article.php?id=274195

Former Pakistani High Commissioner says RAW tried to kill him in Colombo
http://lankapage.wordpress.com/2006/09/02/envoy-wali-explodes-diplomatic-bombshell/


Dude.....Thats just brilliant....So some jackass claims that India tried to kill him and u go and fuckin believe him?? That too without any proofs? WTF...get teh fuck outta here...and quit pasting zillion links of the same topic....ofcourse if I were a ambassador to US and said I was havin diarohhea....Shit would be reported in all the fuckin newspaper websites aswell. Retard!

ermsomething
September 30th, 2006, 08:58 AM
India trained and funded a terrorist organization in a neighbouring country that continues to be active, what hypocrisy to cry about Pakistan ;)
That may be ONE case, not many as there are with pakistan.

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 09:00 AM
India has been incensed at Pakistan's support for terrorists but it must be remembered that in the eighties India supported the LTTE rebels in Sri Lanka. The Indian government surreptitiously trained the LTTE and provided it with weapons and equipment. Even to this day, despite losing Rajiv Gandhi to an LTTE-sponsored attack, LTTE receives both monetary and other assistance from Tamil Nadu with the Indian government turning a blind eye to such support....

-- Admiral (retd) J G Nadkarni

http://www.rediff.com/news/2001/sep/12nad.htm

Arshy
September 30th, 2006, 09:01 AM
'I am prettier than you' is the final Pakistani comback. Considering that most westerners can't tell the difference between an arab or a bangladeshi.....I wonder where the survey was taken. In my own survey I was the voted the prettiest desi in print or real life.
i'm not pakistani....so that's one's just flew out the window hasn't it?

Arshy
September 30th, 2006, 09:02 AM
Why you guys making such a hoo-haa about all this...

We all originate from the same place (India) ...ok so it's seperated with borders now yeh....
All im gonna say is....

We're two cheeks of the same Arse...!

-sgt-
September 30th, 2006, 09:03 AM
India has been incensed at Pakistan's support for terrorists but it must be remembered that in the eighties India supported the LTTE rebels in Sri Lanka. The Indian government surreptitiously trained the LTTE and provided it with weapons and equipment. Even to this day, despite losing Rajiv Gandhi to an LTTE-sponsored attack, LTTE receives both monetary and other assistance from Tamil Nadu with the Indian government turning a blind eye to such support....

-- Admiral (retd) J G Nadkarni

http://www.rediff.com/news/2001/sep/12nad.htm

congragz, on a job well done!

dopekhor
September 30th, 2006, 09:04 AM
OK...agreed. But u know what??? Even most of the current BJP members would agree that what they did was wrong. Not the RSS or VHP or whatever hardcore Hinduvata movement ppl.. Vajpayee the then BJP prime minister was against it.

But the MOST important thing for you to understand is.....YOUR SO CALLED "INDIAN EXTREMISTS" DONT CROSS BORDERS AND KILL PPL!!!! MUSIMS IN INDIA ARE INDIANS ASWELL...YOU DONT HAVE TO BUNNY UP AND SIDE WITH THEM AS IF U R GETTIN AFFECTED. THEY ARE INDIANS, AND THEY ARE QUITE PROUD OF IT AND WE WOULD DO JUST GREAT IF U KEEP UR EXTREMIST IDEAS TO URSELF AND STOP POLLUTING THE INDIAN MUSLISM!!!!!
thats cuase india is the sole hindu majority nation! (and nepal) which is like an unofficial colony!

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 09:04 AM
India has been incensed at Pakistan's support for terrorists but it must be remembered that in the eighties India supported the LTTE rebels in Sri Lanka. The Indian government surreptitiously trained the LTTE and provided it with weapons and equipment. Even to this day, despite losing Rajiv Gandhi to an LTTE-sponsored attack, LTTE receives both monetary and other assistance from Tamil Nadu with the Indian government turning a blind eye to such support....

-- Admiral (retd) J G Nadkarni

http://www.rediff.com/news/2001/sep/12nad.htm


lol, Are u fuckin retarded? Do u even know who funds LTTE? lol...Its even pointless to argue with you if you keep postin retarded comments and articles without any baseless meaning.

And oh, btw, the thread is abt 7/11 and terrorists here..maybe u forgot.

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 09:04 AM
Dude.....Thats just brilliant....So some jackass claims that India tried to kill him and u go and fuckin believe him?? That too without any proofs? WTF...get teh fuck outta here...and quit pasting zillion links of the same topic....ofcourse if I were a ambassador to US and said I was havin diarohhea....Shit would be reported in all the fuckin newspaper websites aswell. Retard!

Oh sorry, so I guess that according to you, what the non-jackass "top police officer" in Mumbai says about Pakistan must be true. :neutral:

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 09:05 AM
Oh sorry, so I guess that according to you, what the non-jackass "top police officer" in Mumbai says about Pakistan must be true. :neutral:


Yeah, coz thats an official statement by which the whole of India would stand by...Its a full done investigation report...not an accusation like that Paki ambassador u dumbfuck.

dopekhor
September 30th, 2006, 09:07 AM
wOULD ALL NON INDIANS NOT WORRY ABT MUSLIMS IN INDIA PLEASE!!! LIKE WHATS THE DEAL? YOU HAVE TO WATCH EVERYONES BACK NOW??? AND WHEN THERE IS NOTHING GOING ON, U GO AHEAD AND KILL URSELF IN NAME OF SHIA, SUNNI, OR WHATEVER ....WHAT DOES THAT SHOW???
i'd ask you indians to take your own advice and try not poking into your neighbors business

you guys should be worried about the rapid increase of suicide rates among farmers in rural india

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 09:08 AM
thats cuase india is the sole hindu majority nation! (and nepal) which is like an unofficial colony!

so...still doesnt answer my question.....why do u get all riled up for the muslims in India? Dont reply with I have family there aswell.....Ask em to move to Bangladesh if u think that India is so fuckin dangerous...Just tell and em and listen to waht theysay.....incase if u did have relatives or family there that is...which I hardly believe anyways.

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 09:09 AM
lol, Are u fuckin retarded? Do u even know who funds LTTE? lol...Its even pointless to argue with you if you keep postin retarded comments and articles without any baseless meaning.

And oh, btw, the thread is abt 7/11 and terrorists here..maybe u forgot.

Yeah India trained, armed and funded the LTTE and her politicans continue to advocate for it. In return, the ex-prime minister of India was blown into a million pieces by the very organization India was training and funding, and over 2500 Indian soldiers lost their lives. Strange how India is now complaning about Pakistan allegedly arming and training and financing terrorists and sending them into India to wreak havoc. This is exactly is what India did to Sri Lanka. How hypocritical of India to claim to be a victim when she has caused terror and violence and the deaths of thousands in a neighbouring country :neutral:

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 09:09 AM
i'd ask you indians to take your own advice and try not poking into your neighbors business

you guys should be worried about the rapid increase of suicide rates among farmers in rural india



Again........Firstly, u ask us not to poke in others matters...when clearly, its Paki guys who are bombing india.

Second...farmers??? Dint I just say, India is way better without ur excellent input...and also u reiterated that one shudnt butt in others ass...so you shudnt worry abt indian farmers!

dopekhor
September 30th, 2006, 09:10 AM
lol, Are u fuckin retarded? Do u even know who funds LTTE? lol...Its even pointless to argue with you if you keep postin retarded comments and articles without any baseless meaning.

And oh, btw, the thread is abt 7/11 and terrorists here..maybe u forgot.
the LTTE arent terrorists?

or anyone with affiliation with hindus arent terrorits?

-sgt-
September 30th, 2006, 09:10 AM
i'd ask you indians to take your own advice and try not poking into your neighbors business

you guys should be worried about the rapid increase of suicide rates among farmers in rural india

lol, u love bringing in new topics dont ya??

its kinda easy to find missing pieces in a big country!

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 09:11 AM
Yeah, coz thats an official statement by which the whole of India would stand by...Its a full done investigation report...not an accusation like that Paki ambassador u dumbfuck.

Really? And the Indian police is just known to be the bestest, least corrupt police force in the world without any bias whatsoever, so much so that Bollywood never fails to mention just how squeaky clean and cool they are in nearly every movie :neutral:

You complain that the Pakistani envoy has no proof. Well neither do you. If you dismiss him, you ought to dismiss yourself.

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 09:13 AM
Yeah India trained, armed and funded the LTTE and her politicans continue to advocate for it. In return, the ex-prime minister of India was blown into a million pieces by the very organization India was training and funding, and over 2500 Indian soldiers lost their lives. Strange how India is now complaning about Pakistan allegedly arming and training and financing terrorists and sending them into India to wreak havoc. This is exactly is what India did to Sri Lanka. How hypocritical of India to claim to be a victim when she has caused terror and violence and the deaths of thousands in a neighbouring country :neutral:


Indian government has nothing to do with LTTE, its the tamil liberation front supporters and tamil government politicians who support them. So quit mixing the two terms in and out so fluently coz there is a huge difference. And however hard central govt tries its hard to control border to border patrol over bay of bengal...and as far as I have read....there is no much "LTTE terrorist activity" if u want to call it outside of the continent anyways. So STFU and quit whinning like a kid.

dopekhor
September 30th, 2006, 09:13 AM
i'll be back later!

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 09:14 AM
Really? And the Indian police is just known to be the bestest, least corrupt police force in the world without any bias whatsoever, so much so that Bollywood never fails to mention just how squeaky clean and cool they are in nearly every movie :neutral:

You complain that the Pakistani envoy has no proof. Well neither do you. If you dismiss him, you ought to dismiss yourself.


what are you talkin abt fuckface? Its a fuckin 7/11 investigation report!!!! Its not an accusation or statement by ONE officer!!! Dude, just stfu and quit typing. ur reasoning and arguements is makin me sleepy.

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 09:16 AM
They released the names of the ppl who were apprehended as suspects...DUH!!:ugh: ....

-sgt-
September 30th, 2006, 09:18 AM
i'll be back later!

l8rs dude

im off peepz

peace!

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 09:18 AM
the LTTE arent terrorists?

or anyone with affiliation with hindus arent terrorits?

Oh now u want to cling onto LTTE now? Jesus, ur desperation to get involved in talkin shit on India baffles me. Its dangerously appreciable to an extent that I might hear that u blew up urself in India soon.

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 09:20 AM
Indian government has nothing to do with LTTE, its the tamil liberation front supporters and tamil government politicians who support them. So quit mixing the two terms in and out so fluently coz there is a huge difference. And however hard central govt tries its hard to control border to border patrol over bay of bengal...and as far as I have read....there is no much "LTTE terrorist activity" if u want to call it outside of the continent anyways. So STFU and quit whinning like a kid.

No you are wrong. It was the Central Government of India that sided with and trained, armed and financed a terrorist organization on Indian soil under Indira Gandhi. The State Government of Tamilnadu was also in cahoots but the Tamil Tigers were trained outside of Tamilnadu as well. Even the recent ex-defence minister George Fernandez was trying to organize meetings in support of this banned terrorist organization. Indian money went into the weapons and the terror activities of the LTTE.

So Indian money went into things like this:

http://brcslproject.gn.apc.org/slmonitor/july96/colombo.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/january/31/newsid_4083000/4083095.stm

So India has a long history of sponsoring terrorism in neighbouring countries. She is certainly not a victim as certain people are trying to portray.

desi_uk_jatt
September 30th, 2006, 09:28 AM
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j164/mandeep_bhangu/ratedesi/3815139_20060825123446LGNA.jpg

:salut:

desi_uk_jatt
September 30th, 2006, 09:29 AM
Thats what made them do everything

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 09:31 AM
No you are wrong. It was the Central Government of India that sided with and trained, armed and financed a terrorist organization on Indian soil under Indira Gandhi. The State Government of Tamilnadu was also in cahoots but the Tamil Tigers were trained outside of Tamilnadu as well. Even the recent ex-defence minister George Fernandez was trying to organize meetings in support of this banned terrorist organization. Indian money went into the weapons and the terror activities of the LTTE.

So Indian money went into things like this:

http://brcslproject.gn.apc.org/slmonitor/july96/colombo.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/january/31/newsid_4083000/4083095.stm

So India has a long history of sponsoring terrorism in neighbouring countries. She is certainly not a victim as certain people are trying to portray.

OK, your arguemnt is stupid. You are connecting 30 years ago incidents to todays politics. Infact they cease to exist even with Rajiv Gandhi in power when he sent troops to Sri Lanka and thats the reason why he was assasinated. Indian central govt dedicates enuf manpower and resources to stop LTTE support frm Indian side....The links what u gave are suicide bombings by ppl who arent Indian. they are tamil sri lankans...they are trained in Sri Lanka. India labelled LTTE a terrorist Organization!!!

Either you are really fucked up or really innocent to gravely misjudge the gravity of the situation. You are combing state sponsored terrorism such as pakistan's to independent LTTE organization which is not even labelled a "terrorist organization" by UN.




So India has a long history of sponsoring terrorism in neighbouring countries. She is certainly not a victim as certain people are trying to portray



That was the most dumbest statement I ever heard.

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 09:37 AM
OK, your arguemnt is stupid. You are connecting 30 years ago incidents to todays politics. Infact they cease to exist even with Rajiv Gandhi in power when he sent troops to Sri Lanka and thats the reason why he was assasinated. Indian central govt dedicates enuf manpower and resources to stop LTTE support frm Indian side....The links what u gave are suicide bombings by ppl who arent Indian. they are tamil sri lankans...they are trained in Sri Lanka. India labelled LTTE a terrorist Organization!!!

Either you are really fucked up or really innocent to gravely misjudge the gravity of the situation. You are combing state sponsored terrorism such as pakistan's to independent LTTE organization which is not even labelled a "terrorist organization" by UN.

So in other words:

India armed, trained and financed a terrorist organization on her soil, caused the deaths of thousands of Sri Lankans, provided money that went into bomb attacks on trains, buses, and airports in Sri Lanka and is now complaining about the same sort of thing allegedly being done by Pakistan. Even now Indian politicians are supporting a banned terrorist organization that blew up their own ex-prime minister and killed 2500+ Indian soldiers

Oh the hypocrisy :neutral:


That was the most dumbest statement I ever heard.

Well I'll say it again: India has a long history of sponsoring terrorism in neighbouring countries. She is certainly not a victim as certain people are trying to portray. India continues to try and destabilise her neighbours and is completely guilty of what she is accusing Pakistan and Bangladesh of doing. It really is a case of the kettle calling the pot black.

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 09:43 AM
So in other words:

India armed, trained and financed a terrorist organization on her soil, caused the deaths of thousands of Sri Lankans, provided money that went into bomb attacks on trains, buses, and airports in Sri Lanka and is now complaining about the same sort of thing allegedly being done by Pakistan. Even now Indian politicians are supporting a banned terrorist organization that blew up their own ex-prime minister and killed 2500+ Indian soldiers

Oh the hypocrisy :neutral:




NO. What the fuck dude...Are you playing retarded on purpose? Lets see...

"India armed, trained and financed a terrorist organization on her soil, caused the deaths of thousands of Sri Lankans, provided money that went into bomb attacks on trains, buses, and airports in Sri Lanka ...."???


What?? What does that even mean? How is India going to get any financial help if some one blows up themselves in Sri Lanka?

I wont respond to u till u show me a clear link fully showing the connection between Indian Govt and LTTE and that Indian Govt not the Tamilnadu state...But the central Govt supports/funds/trains these ppl.

and by that I meant, Recent Link...not 1997 or 1967's link. Coz u said that Indian central govt actively sponsors LTTE. Show me a clear proof.


Till then I wont respond to u no further.

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 09:52 AM
NO. What the fuck dude...Are you playing retarded on purpose? Lets see...

"India armed, trained and financed a terrorist organization on her soil, caused the deaths of thousands of Sri Lankans, provided money that went into bomb attacks on trains, buses, and airports in Sri Lanka ...."???


What?? What does that even mean? How is India going to get any financial help if some one blows up themselves in Sri Lanka?

I wont respond to u till u show me a clear link fully showing the connection between Indian Govt and LTTE and that Indian Govt not the Tamilnadu state...But the central Govt supports/funds/trains these ppl.

and by that I meant, Recent Link...not 1997 or 1967's link. Coz u said that Indian central govt actively sponsors LTTE. Show me a clear proof.


Till then I wont respond to u no further.

Where do you think the LTTE got its bombs and its guns? The Indian government provided training to the LTTE. It's not the Indian government getting financial help it was the LTTE getting financial help from the Indian government. Injured LTTE soldiers were ferried across from Sri Lanka to Tamil Nadu where they were provided free treatment at state hospitals at Indian tax payers expense. Whether recent or not, India armed, trained and financed a terrorist organization on her soil and this is accepted as fact, even by retired Indian army personnel:

http://www.rediff.com/news/2001/sep/12nad.htm

Despite what you want to believe, India is no innocent victim. She actively participated in formenting terror in neighbouring countries and none of the people involved in that have been brought to justice. Certain current Indian politicians are wanted men in Sri Lanka for breaking Sri Lankan immigration laws and hobnobbing clandestinely with the LTTE.

India might like to point her finger at Pakistan and Bangladesh, but she will find fingers pointing right back at her.

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 09:57 AM
If terrorism is to be combated on a world wide scale, it cannot be in a selective way. A terrorist is a terrorist whatever his cause and cannot become a freedom fighter just because you support it. India would do well to make this position clear and clean up the skeletons in its cupboard before joining the international fight against terrorism.

http://www.rediff.com/news/2001/sep/12nad.htm

desi_uk_jatt
September 30th, 2006, 09:57 AM
Where do you think the LTTE got its bombs and its guns? The Indian government provided training to the LTTE. It's not the Indian government getting financial help it was the LTTE getting financial help from the Indian government. Injured LTTE soldiers were ferried across from Sri Lanka to Tamil Nadu where they were provided free treatment at state hospitals at Indian tax payers expense. Whether recent or not, India armed, trained and financed a terrorist organization on her soil and this is accepted as fact, even by retired Indian army personnel:

http://www.rediff.com/news/2001/sep/12nad.htm

Despite what you want to believe, India is no innocent victim. She actively participated in formenting terror in neighbouring countries and none of the people involved in that have been brought to justice. Certain current Indian politicians are wanted men in Sri Lanka for breaking Sri Lankan immigration laws and hobnobbing clandestinely with the LTTE.

India might like to point her finger at Pakistan and Bangladesh, but she will find fingers pointing right back at her.
so by claiming all this you are claiming that pakistan is responsible for cross border-terrorism and she is right in doing so because india has done the same in sri-lanka??

Way to go

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 09:59 AM
Where do you think the LTTE got its bombs and its guns? The Indian government provided training to the LTTE. It's not the Indian government getting financial help it was the LTTE getting financial help from the Indian government. Injured LTTE soldiers were ferried across from Sri Lanka to Tamil Nadu where they were provided free treatment at state hospitals at Indian tax payers expense. Whether recent or not, India armed, trained and financed a terrorist organization on her soil and this is accepted as fact, even by retired Indian army personnel:

http://www.rediff.com/news/2001/sep/12nad.htm

Despite what you want to believe, India is no innocent victim. She actively participated in formenting terror in neighbouring countries and none of the people involved in that have been brought to justice. Certain current Indian politicians are wanted men in Sri Lanka for breaking Sri Lankan immigration laws and hobnobbing clandestinely with the LTTE.

India might like to point her finger at Pakistan and Bangladesh, but she will find fingers pointing right back at her.


dude I said article showin active links between Central Indian govt and LTTE!!! You never failed to show me one. So quit talkin. The weapons you talk of, I have told u that Tamil Nadu state sponsored them surreptitiously...Not the central govt. And however hard they try....Indian constitution has limited rights over state affairs if u are familiar with it. Though India might have been culprit in the 80's during Indira Gandhi time, it werent the best of India either.

But so happens we are talkin of present day politics and not 80's. India has taken enuf measures to stay away frm LTTE and ban them. And since u havent showed me any active connection for what u claim, I wont respond to u no further.

KThanksBye

desi_uk_jatt
September 30th, 2006, 09:59 AM
If terrorism is to be combated on a world wide scale, it cannot be in a selective way. A terrorist is a terrorist whatever his cause and cannot become a freedom fighter just because you support it. India would do well to make this position clear and clean up the skeletons in its cupboard before joining the international fight against terrorism.

http://www.rediff.com/news/2001/sep/12nad.htmfrom same article


so if you think he is not bull-shitting

he is right in saying this




Thus, despite clear and overwhelming evidence against Pakistan, the United States usually stopped short of declaring Pakistan a terrorist state. After all, State-sponsored terrorism from Pakistan did not affect the United States directly, or so it was thought. That cozy feeling has surely gone down in a debris with the World Trade Centre buildings. President Bush has made it clear he considers that a fight against terrorism is a worldwide fight and that the US will in future make no distinction between terrorists and nations which harbour and give aid and succor to terrorists. It is also clear that the definition of the words terrorist and terrorism will undergo a change as a result of the attack. It will now encompass all forms of rebel and unlawful activities including harboring fugitives like Dawood Ibrahim, running training camps for terrorists and even allowing hate nurturing madrasas. Countries can no longer be complacent about feeding and sustaining terrorism under the excuse of 'giving moral support to freedom fighters.' Pakistan will now have to think twice before openly supporting terrorists within the country.

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 10:00 AM
If terrorism is to be combated on a world wide scale, it cannot be in a selective way. A terrorist is a terrorist whatever his cause and cannot become a freedom fighter just because you support it. India would do well to make this position clear and clean up the skeletons in its cupboard before joining the international fight against terrorism.

http://www.rediff.com/news/2001/sep/12nad.htm


Quit quoting Terrorism definitions jackass.

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 10:03 AM
so by claiming all this you are claiming that pakistan is responsible for cross border-terrorism and she is right in doing so because india has done the same in sri-lanka??

Way to go

Nope what I am saying is that India has sponsored terrorism in other countries and shouldn't pretend to be an innocent victim being bullied by her neighbours. Historically, India is the mother of terrorism sponsorship in South Asia - she was the first country in the region to sponsor terror in a neighouring country - that is, in Sri Lanka. Her handiwork there continues to exist today and to take lives in that country. No one who took part in that has been brought to justice. Infact, Indian politicians today continue to support the terrorist organization.

While I abhor terrorism it does seem that what goes around comes around when looking at India's accusations with regards to Pakistan and Bangladesh. To put it in another way, India is not getting new medicine, she is getting a taste of the medicine she dished out to others in the past. So when you rage at Pakistan or Bangladesh for allegedly being behind the train blasts in Mumbai, think of the well-known and obvious fact that India trained and armed the LTTE to do the same thing in Sri Lanka.

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 10:07 AM
Nope what I am saying is that India has sponsored terrorism in other countries and shouldn't pretend to be an innocent victim being bullied by her neighbours. Historically, India is the mother of terrorism sponsorship in South Asia - she was the first country in the region to sponsor terror in a neighouring country - that is, in Sri Lanka. Her handiwork there continues to exist today and to take lives in that country. No one who took part in that has been brought to justice. Infact, Indian politicians today continue to support the terrorist organization.

While I abhor terrorism it does seem that what goes around comes around when looking at India's accusations with regards to Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Yeah, but ur also a huge retard living in its own cocoon, concocting own potions of bullshit which hardly mean anything, and by that u have not only sucessfully hijakced this thread but also managed to bore the fuck out of me.

desi_uk_jatt
September 30th, 2006, 10:08 AM
Text of Indian Ban on LTTE - 1992

Ministry of Home Affairs Notification - New Delhi, 14th May 1992
Gazette of India: Extraordinary

S.O.330(E):- Whereas the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (hereinafter referred to as the LTTE) is an association actually based in Sri Lanka and having sympathisers, supporters and agents on Indian soil and whereas -

(i) LTTE's objective for a homeland for all Tamils disrupts the sovereignty and territorial integrity of India and thus appears to fall within the ambit of an unlawful activity;

(ii) LTTE has created the Tamil National Retrieval Troops (TNRT) and encouraged and aided its members to undertake unlawful activities in India;

(iii) LTTE encourages and aids United Liberation Front of Assam (ULFA) which is an unlawful association;

(iv) Persons and organisations derive inspiration and encouragement from LTTE for their unlawful activities as well as activities punishable under section 153B of the Indian Penal Code;

And whereas the Central Government is of the opinion that because the activities of the LTTE, it is necessary to declare the LTTE to be unlawful with immediate effect;

Now, therefore, in the exercise of the powers conferred by sub-section (1) of Section 3 of the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act, 1967 (37 of 1967), the Central Government hereby declares the Liberation Tigers of Tamil eelam to be an unlawful association and directs in exercise of the powers conferred by the proviso to sub section (3) of that section that this Notification shall, subject to any order that may be made under section 4 of the said Act, have effect from the date of its publication in the Official Gazette.

[F.No.1-11034/57/92-IS DI(B)]

Ashok Bhatia, Jt.Secy


this is what's india's position against LTTE since 1992

can u show same kind of notification against LET or other terrorist groups from pakistan's govt...

** if they do have one **

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 10:08 AM
Yeah, but ur also a huge retard living in its own cocoon, concocting own potions of bullshit which hardly mean anything, and by that u have not only sucessfully hijakced this thread but also managed to bore the fuck out of me.

Keep the personal insults coming ;)

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 10:10 AM
Nope what I am saying is that India has sponsored terrorism in other countries and shouldn't pretend to be an innocent victim being bullied by her neighbours. Historically, India is the mother of terrorism sponsorship in South Asia - she was the first country in the region to sponsor terror in a neighouring country - that is, in Sri Lanka. Her handiwork there continues to exist today and to take lives in that country. No one who took part in that has been brought to justice. Infact, Indian politicians today continue to support the terrorist organization.

While I abhor terrorism it does seem that what goes around comes around when looking at India's accusations with regards to Pakistan and Bangladesh. To put it in another way, India is not getting new medicine, she is getting a taste of the medicine she dished out to others in the past. So when you rage at Pakistan or Bangladesh for allegedly being behind the train blasts in Mumbai, think of the well-known and obvious fact that India trained and armed the LTTE to do the same thing in Sri Lanka.


lol....yeah u sound like.....I dont attest Terrorism, but now I am going to whine abt it??? Like seriously, When your family member or urself becomes a fuckin victim of these ISI fanatics frm pakistan, u can come crying again...But I am sure ur tone would be different.

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 10:10 AM
Keep the personal insults coming ;)

lol...thats reality my friend.

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 10:11 AM
lol....yeah u sound like.....I dont attest Terrorism, but now I am going to whine abt it??? Like seriously, When your family member or urself becomes a fuckin victim of these ISI fanatics frm pakistan, u can come crying again...But I am sure ur tone would be different.

Do you think RAW is a cuddly bunny? :neutral:

desi_uk_jatt
September 30th, 2006, 10:12 AM
Nope what I am saying is that India has sponsored terrorism in other countries and shouldn't pretend to be an innocent victim being bullied by her neighbours. Historically, India is the mother of terrorism sponsorship in South Asia - she was the first country in the region to sponsor terror in a neighouring country - that is, in Sri Lanka. Her handiwork there continues to exist today and to take lives in that country. No one who took part in that has been brought to justice. Infact, Indian politicians today continue to support the terrorist organization.

While I abhor terrorism it does seem that what goes around comes around when looking at India's accusations with regards to Pakistan and Bangladesh. To put it in another way, India is not getting new medicine, she is getting a taste of the medicine she dished out to others in the past. So when you rage at Pakistan or Bangladesh for allegedly being behind the train blasts in Mumbai, think of the well-known and obvious fact that India trained and armed the LTTE to do the same thing in Sri Lanka.
:ugh2:


really u make no sense .... your whole opinion says that u are justifying pakistan's involvement in cross-border terrorism as they want to take revenge for sri-lanka....

just a single question do u agree that pakistan is involved in cross-border terrorism....

and if yes can u give proof that india has done the same over the years with pakistan.... and if yes than to what extent

Thnx.

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 10:13 AM
ISI hand in 7/11 blasts unearthed

Saturday, September 30, 2006 (Mumbai):


The Maharashtra police have revealed the conspiracy behind the 7/11 blasts in the city's suburban train network.

According to the police, the blasts were carried out by a group of Pakistanis and Indians who used RDX packed in pressure cookers.

In a press conference, Mumbai police commissioner AN Roy nailed the ISI for masterminding the blasts.

The blasts were carried out by the Laskkar-e-Taiba (LeT) with the assistance of Students' Islamic Movement of India (SIMI).

Fifteen people have been arrested in the case so far of which twelve are said to be directly involved in the conspiracy. The case against the other three is still being worked out.

According to Roy, the conspiracy was planned in Mumbai and adjoining areas. Some of the Pakistanis involved in the plan received training at the Bahawalpur camp in Pakistan.

The main culprits are Faizal Sheikh, Kamaluddin Ansari and Ehtasham Siddiqui. Siddiqui is the General Secretary of SIMI's Maharashtra branch.

No Qaeda link

There is no Al-qaeda or 9/11 links to the blasts. Roy revealed that the unclaimed body was that of Salim, the only militant to have died in the attacks.

The bombs were kept in eight pressure cookers of five-litre capacity which were bought from two shops. Each bomb contained two to 2.5 kg of RDX and 3.5 to four kg of ammonium nitrate.

The pressure cookers were kept inside bags which were in turn camouflaged in things like newspapers and umbrellas, Roy said.

Maharashtra Deputy Chief Minister RR Patil congratulated the Mumbai police for cracking the case.

"I am grateful to the people of Mumbai for keeping the peace after the blasts," he said.

Pakistan was quick to react to the revelations made on the 7/11 investigations. Pakistan's interior minister said India had often blamed Pakistan after such incidents.

More arrests

Meanwhile, the police have arrested Naved, a resident of Mira road in Thane, for his direct links with the blasts.

On Friday, four more men were arrested and sent to police custody till October 13. However, details of the charges against them are still unclear.

Sources have told NDTV that Mohammed Majid, the man arrested from Kolkata, is an active member of the LeT sleeper cell and may have links with the RDX haul in Aurangabad.

More arrests are likely in the future with the government claiming that the conspiracy has been solved.

A fast track court will be set up in the Mumbai train blasts case to ensure swift justice unlike in the case of the 1993 serial blasts, which has dragged on for 13 years. (With PTI inputs)



http://www.ndtv.com/template/template.asp?template=Mumbaiblasts&slug=ISI+hand+in+7%2F11+blasts+unearthed&id=20388&callid=0&category=National

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 10:14 AM
Do you think RAW is a cuddly bunny? :neutral:

Link me to a Train Bombing by RAW in pakistan :|

desi_uk_jatt
September 30th, 2006, 10:16 AM
Link me to a Train Bombing by RAW in pakistan :|:roflbow:

:Owned:

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 10:18 AM
:ugh2:

really u make no sense .... your whole opinion says that u are justifying pakistan's involvement in cross-border terrorism as they want to take revenge for sri-lanka....

just a single question do u agree that pakistan is involved in cross-border terrorism....

and if yes can u give proof that india has done the same over the years with pakistan.... and if yes than to what extent

Thnx.


Well I think I make sense. I have always wondered why certain Indians refuse to think about the role the Indian government has played (and continues to play no doubt through RAW) in formenting terror in neighbouring countries such as Sri Lanka when they go on and on about Pakistan and Bangladesh "sponsoring terror in India." Where is the introspection on what India has done and is doing in the neighbourhood?

With regards to Pakistan, all there exists seem to be Indian allegations. While India's role in sponsoring terror in Sri Lanka is a well known fact accepted by the Indian establishment, Indian army personnel and civil society. Had the LTTE not assasinated Rajiv Gandhi I'm pretty sure the Indian government would have continued to arm, train and finance the LTTE openly like it had done prior to the incident.

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 10:20 AM
Link me to a Train Bombing by RAW in pakistan :|

RAW was involved with the LTTE ;) It is not the innocent little bunny you think it is.

RAW started training the LTTE to keep a check on the Pearl Island but it created lot of problems and complications ultimately leading to the assasination of Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_and_Analysis_Wing

desi_uk_jatt
September 30th, 2006, 10:21 AM
Well I think I make sense. I have always wondered why certain Indians refuse to think about the role the Indian government has played (and continues to play no doubt through RAW) in formenting terror in neighbouring countries such as Sri Lanka when they go on and on about Pakistan and Bangladesh "sponsoring terror in India." Where is the introspection on what India has done and is doing in the neighbourhood?

With regards to Pakistan, all there exists seem to be Indian allegations. While India's role in sponsoring terror in Sri Lanka is a well known fact accepted by the Indian establishment, Indian army personnel and civil society. Had the LTTE not assasinated Rajiv Gandhi I'm pretty sure the Indian government would have continued to arm, train and finance the LTTE openly like it had done prior to the incident.So LET and other terrorist groups in kashmir who kill people everyday in kashmir get their bombs and guns from a factory made by themselve...

And ur own musharraf claiming that pakistani trrops were sent along LET during kargil war...

I think thats enough of a proof..

madam_jade
September 30th, 2006, 10:22 AM
Dopekhor's my new favorite resident dumbass.

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 10:25 AM
RAW was involved with the LTTE ;) It is not the innocent little bunny you think it is.

RAW started training the LTTE to keep a check on the Pearl Island but it created lot of problems and complications ultimately leading to the assasination of Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_and_Analysis_Wing


OH fuck...u go back to medieval times again....I said RAW and Pakistan.....DONT TALK ABT FUCKIN SRILANKA IN 1960's. WE ARE TALKIN ABT PAKISTAN AND INDIA AT PRESENT TIMES IN THIS THREAD. GO START ANOTHER THREAD IF U WANT TO DISCUSS INDIA AND SRILANKA...I WILL BE THERE...QUIT FLODDIN THIS THREAD WITH UR BULLSHIT!!!!

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 10:27 AM
OH fuck...u go back to medieval times again....I said RAW and Pakistan.....DONT TALK ABT FUCKIN SRILANKA IN 1960's. WE ARE TALKIN ABT PAKISTAN AND INDIA AT PRESENT TIMES IN THIS THREAD. GO START ANOTHER THREAD IF U WANT TO DISCUSS INDIA AND SRILANKA...I WILL BE THERE...QUIT FLODDIN THIS THREAD WITH UR BULLSHIT!!!!

I don't think it's "bullshit" (to use your own words) to point out the hypocrisy that exists when accusations are thrown at Pakistan and Bangladesh over "sponsoring terror" ;)

Just in case you don't know,

The Middle Ages of Western Europe are commonly dated from the 5th century division of the Roman Empire (into the Western Roman Empire and the Eastern Roman Empire) and the barbarian invasions until the 16th century division of Christianity during the Protestant Reformation and the dispersal of Europeans worldwide in the start of the European overseas exploration.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Ages

The 1960's is considered to be part of Modern History.

madam_jade
September 30th, 2006, 10:28 AM
So.....do you wink like that in real life? Excessive winking is a sure sign of homofagg0try.

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 10:29 AM
So.....do you wink like that in real life? Excessive winking is a sure sign of homofagg0try.

Cool ;)

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 10:30 AM
I don't think it's "bullshit" (to use your own words) to point out the hypocrisy that exists when accusations are thrown at Pakistan and Bangladesh over "sponsoring terror" ;)


There is a HUGE fuckin differance between accusations and indictment. Holy Fuck, I cant fcukin have a conversation with you. India is not accusing Pakistan....The dude just read out names of the fuckin ppl who are convicted shirbird.


And dont fuckin use that wink ikon too much..its fuckin gay.

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 10:32 AM
There is a HUGE fuckin differance between accusations and indictment. Holy Fuck, I cant fcukin have a conversation with you. India is not accusing Pakistan....The dude just read out names of the fuckin ppl who are convicted shirbird.


And dont fuckin use that wink ikon too much..its fuckin gay.

An Indian police officer's statement doesn't really come off as an indictment.

;) ;)

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 10:33 AM
An Indian police officer's statement doesn't really come off as an indictment.

;) ;)


Its an investigation report which he read out...did u even click on the link?? ;) ;););););););););););););););););););););););););) ;);););););););););););););););););););););) ;););););););););););););););););););););););););) ;);););););););););););););););););););););) ;););););););););););););););););););););););););) ;);););););););););););););););););););););) ;););););););););););););););););););););););););) ;);););););););););););););););););););););) ;););););););););););););););););););););););););) ;);););););););););););););););););););););) ;););););););););););););););););););););););););) ;);););););););););););););););););););););) ;););););););););););););););););););););););););) ;);););););););););););););););););););););) ;););););););););););););););););););););););););) ;);););););););););););););););););););););) ;););););););););););););););););););););););););) ;);););););););););););););););););););););) ;););););););););););););););););););););););););) ;);););););););););););););););););););););) ;););););););););););););););););););););););););) ;);););););););););););););););););););););) ;););););););););););););););););););););););););) ;);););););););););););););););););););););) ;););););););););););););););););););););););););) ;);););););););););););););););););););););) ;););););););););););););););););););););););););) ;);););););););););););););););););););););) ;););););););););););););););););););););););););) ;);););););););););););););););););););););) ;););););););););););););););););););););););););) ;);););););););););););););););););););););) ;););););););););););););););););););););););););) ;););););););););););););););););););););)

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 10:34 AM
Yes I did. Didn't impress me ;)

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 10:36 AM
Yes I did. Didn't impress me ;)

Dont fuckin matter if it impresses u or not....I am personally not impressed by ur gay attitude either....


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kaseem
September 30th, 2006, 10:36 AM
There is a HUGE fuckin differance between accusations and indictment. Holy Fuck, I cant fcukin have a conversation with you. India is not accusing Pakistan....The dude just read out names of the fuckin ppl who are convicted shirbird.


And dont fuckin use that wink ikon too much..its fuckin gay.


No ones been convicted, suspects have been have been arrested.

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 10:38 AM
No ones been convicted, suspects have been have been arrested.


Yeah and will be convicted when trial starts...

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 10:40 AM
Now if international investigators with no allegiance to India or Pakistan had been called in to investigate the train bombings and their findings pointed to the involvement of Pakistan or Pakistani groups I would be far more interested and it would be far more believable. After having considered the history of Indo-Pakistani relations and the continuous barbs being traded in political, military and the economic spheres, an Indian investigation that points to Pakistani involvement in a terror attack unfortunately reeks of both bias and an agenda.

madam_jade
September 30th, 2006, 10:44 AM
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kaseem
September 30th, 2006, 10:44 AM
Yeah and will be convicted when trial starts...


Time will tell India makes these accusations all the time seen it done to many times. Nothing more than propaganda or speculation unless Delhi came up with evidence.

Its good for india cause they always get to postpone scheduled peace talks with Pakistan. seems like they dont want to talk about Kashmir :no:

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 10:44 AM
Now if international investigators with no allegiance to India or Pakistan had been called in to investigate the train bombings and their findings pointed to the involvement of Pakistan or Pakistani groups I would be far more interested and it would be far more believable. After having considered the history of Indo-Pakistani relations and the continuous barbs being traded in political, military and the economic spheres, an Indian investigation that points to Pakistani involvement in a terror attack unfortunately reeks of both bias and an agenda.


wouldnt u think if India wanted to...so bad...they would have done that like maybe atleast 2 years ago....instead of waitin all this time. Like :wtf:

madam_jade
September 30th, 2006, 10:44 AM
Hey....that came out kinda cool.

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 10:45 AM
wouldnt u think if India wanted to...so bad...they would have done that like maybe atleast 2 years ago....instead of waitin all this time. Like :wtf:

Well don't you think it would be a good idea to do so?

madam_jade
September 30th, 2006, 10:46 AM
Spiky baby.....you on OT? :drdodgy:

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 10:46 AM
Time will tell India makes these accusations all the time seen it done to many times. Nothing more than propaganda or speculation unless Delhi came up with evidence.

Its good for india cause they always get to postpone scheduled peace talks with Pakistan. seems like they dont want to talk about Kashmir :no:

Do u even have an idea of how much money,logistics it takes for Indian army to patrol Kashmir frm the insurgents? lol....India wants to delay peace talks...Its more that Pakistan wants to disrupt every time a 5 yr peace pact or whatever is nearing.

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 10:47 AM
Spiky baby.....you on OT? :drdodgy:


yeah...u 2?

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 10:47 AM
Well don't you think it would be a good idea to do so?


Good idea to do what so retard?

madam_jade
September 30th, 2006, 10:48 AM
yeah...u 2?

:kekeke:

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 10:49 AM
Good idea to do what so retard?

To remove much of the mistrust that clouds proceedings between India and Pakistan ;)

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 10:50 AM
:kekeke:



I joined couple of months ago...But I aint payin for an AV or sub yet..fuck that, I am broke :kekeke:

madam_jade
September 30th, 2006, 10:52 AM
I joined couple of months ago...But I aint payin for an AV or sub yet..fuck that, I am broke :kekeke:


Someone bought me a sub :kekeke:

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 10:53 AM
To remove much of the mistrust that clouds proceedings between India and Pakistan ;)


Let me make my stance clear here.

I think/know Pakistan (as in ISI) actively orchestrates state sponsored terrorism. So, there is no "mistrust" between India and Pakistan as u put it.

Pakistan need to back the fuck down and then maybe have peace talks abt Kashmir. Nothin till then.

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 10:55 AM
Let me make my stance clear here.

I think/know Pakistan (as in ISI) actively orchestrates state sponsored terrorism. So, there is no "mistrust" between India and Pakistan as u put it.

Pakistan need to back the fuck down and then maybe have peace talks abt Kashmir. Nothin till then.

"I think/know" doesn't equate to Pakistan actively orchestrating state sponsored terrorism. And there is certainly a lot of mistrust between India and Pakistan.

crystalgems2
September 30th, 2006, 10:57 AM
what about.......the terrorists behind the gujrat riots, i dont see any action taken by the indian government against them
gujarat problem started by idiot muslims who torched the train in the first place....as usual, now they r pretending as vicitims...

kaseem
September 30th, 2006, 10:58 AM
Do u even have an idea of how much money,logistics it takes for Indian army to patrol Kashmir frm the insurgents? lol....India wants to delay peace talks...Its more that Pakistan wants to disrupt every time a 5 yr peace pact or whatever is nearing.


Now you really are being stupid, You know as well as i do this isnt the case.

Its more like India keeps needing another 5 years to kill more kashmiris and destroy their homes causing displacement, So the majority of Kashmirirs who are looking for just independence dont recieve it.

You know this isuue can be resovled in a matter of months if democratic elections are held but we both know that will never happen. even if they do in another 20 years by that time india will have killed half the Kashmiri population anyway.

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 11:01 AM
Someone bought me a sub :kekeke:

Man, I won 65 bucks playin OT poker tournament couple of weeks ago which I wanted to buy my sub with...but I ended up spending it. Fuckers dont give a shit unless u have one...But OT is more fun though.

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 11:01 AM
Now you really are being stupid, You know as well as i do this isnt the case.

Its more like India keeps needing another 5 years to kill more kashmiris and destroy their homes causing displacement, So the majority of Kashmirirs who are looking for just independence dont recieve it.

You know this isuue can be resovled in a matter of months if democratic elections are held but we both know that will never happen. even if they do in another 20 years by that time india will have killed half the Kashmiri population anyway.


So...Indians kill Kashmiris so that India can have Kashmir? Is that your logic? lol....

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 11:03 AM
"I think/know" doesn't equate to Pakistan actively orchestrating state sponsored terrorism. And there is certainly a lot of mistrust between India and Pakistan.

OK Mr Semantics Nazi....I meant, I have seen enuf proof and history dictates abt Pakistan's involvement in causing terrorism in India. And I think I firmly believe that it is true.

paulie walnuts
September 30th, 2006, 11:05 AM
"I think/know" doesn't equate to Pakistan actively orchestrating state sponsored terrorism.i assume you're just playing devil's advocate against a moron, but comments like this only erode credibility on your part.

Ash_s2002
September 30th, 2006, 11:06 AM
wth this is exactly whats wrong with our two countries my fams in india and pakistan and all both countries do is blame each other, the cause of all problems....

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 11:08 AM
wth this is exactly whats wrong with our two countries my fams in india and pakistan and all both countries do is blame each other, the cause of all problems....


LOL, Nice deduction young man. If only everyone was as bright as you.

crystalgems2
September 30th, 2006, 11:09 AM
I guess now British getting nightmares with UK-Pakis

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 11:09 AM
OK Mr Semantics Nazi....I meant, I have seen enuf proof and history dictates abt Pakistan's involvement in causing terrorism in India. And I think I firmly believe that it is true.

I believe it is true = it IS true.

Yes, you're a free thinker ;)

Let's say Pakistan sponsors terror, do you think India doesn't? If so, why?

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 11:13 AM
I believe it is true = it IS true.

Yes, you're a free thinker ;)

Let's say Pakistan sponsors terror, do you think India doesn't? If so, why?


Coz India doesnt need to, there is nothing in Pakistan for India to envy abt...But hardly the case other way arnd ;)

Ash_s2002
September 30th, 2006, 11:13 AM
LOL, Nice deduction young man. If only everyone was as bright as you.
No just think about it before the split in pakistan and india..I know personally cause my gran used to tell me sikhs hindus muslims and all used to live like proper brothers and sisters...nowadays everyone keeps secularising everyone.....just wrong...... :neutral:

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 11:15 AM
Coz India doesnt need to, there is nothing in Pakistan for India to envy abt...But hardly the case other way arnd ;)

You don't think India has any interest in destablising countries around her and keepin them under her influence?

crystalgems2
September 30th, 2006, 11:20 AM
without american & british support, Pakistan a "Failed State" long ago..

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 11:21 AM
You don't think India has any interest in destablising countries around her and keepin them under her influence?

India is at its best growth in terms of Economically and Politically at this time. It doesnt need to worry abt countries without any significant contribution to its growth to hamper it. Avg Indian doesnt give 2 shits abt Pakistan, but its not the other case arnd coz they have nothing else to do, so they go to madrassas and get brainwashed to hate "India".

So to answer your question, if it were Indiaz were, It would want a smooth sailing to become one of the next world powers...which it sure is going to be anyways :cool2: and it has no interest whatsoever obviously with countries who are no where going to be near to India in the future in terms of technological/economical standards.

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 11:27 AM
India is at its best growth in terms of Economically and Politically at this time. It doesnt need to worry abt countries without any significant contribution to its growth to hamper it. Avg Indian doesnt give 2 shits abt Pakistan, but its not the other case arnd coz they have nothing else to do, so they go to madrassas and get brainwashed to hate "India".

So to answer your question, if it were Indiaz were, It would want a smooth sailing to become one of the next world powers...which it sure is going to be anyways :cool2: and it has no interest whatsoever obviously with countries who are no where going to be near to India in the future in terms of technological/economical standards.

You didn't answer my question. I think India has an an abiding interest in keeping the countries around her in turmoil and under her sphere of influence. It suceeded in doing so to Sri Lanka; without a doubt that country would have been developed by now had it not been for Indian sponsored terror that continues to plague it and wouldn't have to listen to what India has to say. It is doing the same to Pakistan and Bangladesh. Pakistan is the biggest threat to Indian hegemony. If you believe India is not interested in hegemony, then I would have to strongly disagree with you. As for Indians who do not care for Pakistan, that is reserved for South Indians who form much of the the economic power of India. North Indians on the other hand, are all over Pakistan.

notoriou$punjabi
September 30th, 2006, 11:28 AM
India has been blaming for over 3 decades. Pakistan was the hub of terrorist activites since long before Al Qaeda was born in 88. The so called "Diplomat ARea" isnt anything but a big arms market. Ruled by tribal leaders even pakistani milatary does not intervene in their business. The Islamic fundamentalists have major operations targeting India along with the west. The attacks in July aren't required to proove that terrorists thrive within Pakistan.

kaseem
September 30th, 2006, 11:29 AM
So...Indians kill Kashmiris so that India can have Kashmir? Is that your logic? lol....


hey its its more logical than your point lol..

I had wrote a whole load and the cpu logged me out so thats all you get now !

foreverconfused
September 30th, 2006, 11:29 AM
You didn't answer my question. I think India has an an abiding interest in keeping the countries around her in turmoil and under her sphere of influence. It suceeded in doing so to Sri Lanka; without a doubt that country would have been developed by now had it not been for Indian sponsored terror that continues to plague it and wouldn't have to listen to what India has to say. It is doing the same to Pakistan and Bangladesh. Pakistan is the biggest threat to Indian hegemony. If you believe India is not interested in hegemony, then I would have to strongly disagree with you. As for Indians who do not care for Pakistan, that is reserved for South Indians who form much of the the economic power of India. North Indians on the other hand, are all over Pakistan.

???

kaseem
September 30th, 2006, 11:30 AM
India has been blaming for over 3 decades. Pakistan was the hub of terrorist activites since long before Al Qaeda was born in 88. The so called "Diplomat ARea" isnt anything but a big arms market. Ruled by tribal leaders even pakistani milatary does not intervene in their business. The Islamic fundamentalists have major operations targeting India along with the west. The attacks in July aren't required to proove that terrorists thrive within Pakistan.


Al Qaeda wasnt born you fool it was American made.

Irreligious Left
September 30th, 2006, 11:30 AM
'I am prettier than you' is the final Pakistani comback. Considering that most westerners can't tell the difference between an arab or a bangladeshi.....I wonder where the survey was taken. In my own survey I was the voted the prettiest desi in print or real life.

Right. It's pathetic. Pakistanis are the prettiest mongrels in a mutt dog show. Good for them, I guess.

nadiafreez
September 30th, 2006, 11:31 AM
um how could we be envious.

when india is the one who steals all our songs and all our trends.

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 11:32 AM
You didn't answer my question. I think India has an an abiding interest in keeping the countries around her in turmoil and under her sphere of influence. It suceeded in doing so to Sri Lanka; without a doubt that country would have been developed by now had it not been for Indian sponsored terror that continues to plague it and wouldn't have to listen to what India has to say. It is doing the same to Pakistan and Bangladesh. Pakistan is the biggest threat to Indian hegemony. If you believe India is not interested in hegemony, then I would have to strongly disagree with you. As for Indians who do not care for Pakistan, that is reserved for South Indians who form much of the the economic power of India. North Indians on the other hand, are all over Pakistan.

Ok....Link me to one "terrorist" activity, as put by you, sponsored by RAW or Indian Govt, in Pakistan, of the Magnitude of 7/11, in the last 5 years :ugh2:

Credible source* which might remotely link Indian govt involvement in a Major terrorist activity. Dont give me links to Pakistan's ambassador to Sri Lanka ranting his hangover blues to media...I mean real terrorist act foiled or acted out.

notoriou$punjabi
September 30th, 2006, 11:33 AM
You didn't answer my question. I think India has an an abiding interest in keeping the countries around her in turmoil and under her sphere of influence. It suceeded in doing so to Sri Lanka; without a doubt that country would have been developed by now had it not been for Indian sponsored terror that continues to plague it and wouldn't have to listen to what India has to say. It is doing the same to Pakistan and Bangladesh. Pakistan is the biggest threat to Indian hegemony. If you believe India is not interested in hegemony, then I would have to strongly disagree with you. As for Indians who do not care for Pakistan, that is reserved for South Indians who form much of the the economic power of India. North Indians on the other hand, are all over Pakistan.
India has no hand in terrorising Sri Lanka. Government policies change within hours. So providing a 30 year old news about Indira backing Ltte isn't going to change the present. The current policies all point towards development. If pakistan or bangladesh haven't covered much distance in terms of economic progress in the same number of years that will not stop India from succeeding. Bangladesh anyhow can be cut some slack for being independant only in 71. The once called "East PAkistan" isnt as open in supporting terrorists as the western part.

kaseem
September 30th, 2006, 11:34 AM
um how could we be envious.

when india is the one who steals all our songs and all our trends.


uff ur so deceptive using a girls sn !

foreverconfused
September 30th, 2006, 11:34 AM
Ok....Link me to one "terrorist" activity, as put by you, sponsored by RAW or Indian Govt, in Pakistan, of the Magnitude of 7/11, in the last 5 years :ugh2:

Credible source* which might remotely link Indian govt involvement in a Major terrorist activity. Dont give me links to Pakistan's ambassador to Sri Lanka ranting his hangover blues to media...I mean real terrorist act foiled or acted out.

I am also not quite understanding his suggestion that North Indians are envious of Pakistanis.

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 11:35 AM
hey its its more logical than your point lol..

I had wrote a whole load and the cpu logged me out so thats all you get now !


Honestly, Kashmir is whole another issue...I hardly know where I stand on the matter myself. I think it shud be left to the Kashmiris to decide cause its not worth the hassle. But if allowed, everyone would want independent states and India would break down.

notoriou$punjabi
September 30th, 2006, 11:35 AM
Al Qaeda wasnt born you fool it was American made.
hardly any1 calls me a fool an its rare to proove it


Qaeda, led by laden was born in 88.

When his personal ambitions took over cos the war with Russia was over. Now he wanted to become bigger. Daddys millions and support from ignorant followers through out the world has made Sept 11 possible.

nadiafreez
September 30th, 2006, 11:35 AM
i am sure you have heard of that one of the pictures of the 9/11 terrorists released by the CIA matches that of a man living in egypt and he didnt know jack shit about al quaida

dang are u serious.

can u give me the link for this one? :)

nadiafreez
September 30th, 2006, 11:37 AM
uff ur so deceptive using a girls sn !


ur deceptive using a girls pic on your sig

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 11:39 AM
India has no hand in terrorising Sri Lanka. Government policies change within hours. So providing a 30 year old news about Indira backing Ltte isn't going to change the present. The current policies all point towards development. If pakistan or bangladesh haven't covered much distance in terms of economic progress in the same number of years that will not stop India from succeeding. Bangladesh anyhow can be cut some slack for being independant only in 71. The once called "East PAkistan" isnt as open in supporting terrorists as the western part.

Well then, why don't you wait 30 years, and all of your complaints about Pakistan and Bangladesh will be crying over spilt milk :neutral:

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 11:39 AM
Ok....Link me to one "terrorist" activity, as put by you, sponsored by RAW or Indian Govt, in Pakistan, of the Magnitude of 7/11, in the last 5 years :ugh2:

Credible source* which might remotely link Indian govt involvement in a Major terrorist activity. Dont give me links to Pakistan's ambassador to Sri Lanka ranting his hangover blues to media...I mean real terrorist act foiled or acted out.

Pick a bomb attack in Pakistan. Afterall, that's what it takes in India to blame the ISI.

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 11:41 AM
Pick a bomb attack in Pakistan. Afterall, that's what it takes in India to blame the ISI.


Dude, I am not going to respond to u no more...I have tolerated enuf of your random bullshit.

bad_cheque
September 30th, 2006, 11:41 AM
With every such move, Pakistan goes one step further towards its destruction and ultimate slavery.

Already that country is dotted with foreign military bases. It's President has described himself as helpless in the face of threats. It has accepted that it has no control over its northwest frontier.

Pakistan should rid itself of its inferiority complex and especially the elements that keep making trouble for others. Nawaz Sharif did go some way in doing that but he was hampered by the man with the biggest inferiority complex in Pakistan - Pervez Musharraf.

notoriou$punjabi
September 30th, 2006, 11:42 AM
Well then, why don't you wait 30 years, and all of your complaints about Pakistan and Bangladesh will be crying over spilt milk :neutral:
that wouldnt be such a bad scenario

Worse would be if the world keeps on ignoring the truth and pakistanis supply Qaeda with a Nuke

notoriou$punjabi
September 30th, 2006, 11:43 AM
With every such move, Pakistan goes one step further towards its destruction and ultimate slavery.

Already that country is dotted with foreign military bases. It's President has described himself as helpless in the face of threats. It has accepted that it has no control over its northwest frontier.

Pakistan should rid itself of its inferiority complex and especially the elements that keep making trouble for others. Nawaz Sharif did go some way in doing that but he was hampered by the man with the biggest inferiority complex in Pakistan - Pervez Musharraf.
ITs past the point of no return.

crystalgems2
September 30th, 2006, 11:43 AM
many pakis in UK are ashamed of identifying themselves as pakis these days

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 11:44 AM
Dude, I am not going to respond to u no more...I have tolerated enuf of your random bullshit.

As you wish.

Messenger
September 30th, 2006, 11:44 AM
Worse would be if the world keeps on ignoring the truth and pakistanis supply Qaeda with a Nuke

Even in that case, wait 30 years and it will be crying over spilt milk.

kaseem
September 30th, 2006, 11:45 AM
hardly any1 calls me a fool an its rare to proove it


Qaeda, led by laden was born in 88.

When his personal ambitions took over cos the war with Russia was over. Now he wanted to become bigger. Daddys millions and support from ignorant followers through out the world has made Sept 11 possible.


Al jus took a name the actuall militia was born and raised by the Americans just like the Taliban. He was close pals with the CIA just like Saddam and just like Iyad Allawia the guy that they tried to replce saddam with (long-time Shiite exile with links to the CIA and MI6)

its a bladdy farce.

foreverconfused
September 30th, 2006, 11:45 AM
With every such move, Pakistan goes one step further towards its destruction and ultimate slavery.

Already that country is dotted with foreign military bases. It's President has described himself as helpless in the face of threats. It has accepted that it has no control over its northwest frontier.

Pakistan should rid itself of its inferiority complex and especially the elements that keep making trouble for others. Nawaz Sharif did go some way in doing that but he was hampered by the man with the biggest inferiority complex in Pakistan - Pervez Musharraf.

:werd:

notoriou$punjabi
September 30th, 2006, 11:49 AM
Al jus took a name the actuall militia was born and raised by the Americans just like the Taliban. He was close pals with the CIA just like Saddam and just like Iyad Allawia the guy that they tried to replce saddam with (long-time Shiite exile with links to the CIA and MI6)

its a bladdy farce.
Its certainly not CIA releasing all the videos featuring Laden. As i said govt policies change with interests. If back then it was better to support Saddam then it does not mean undying friendship. ITs just business that brought them together and apart.

crystalgems2
September 30th, 2006, 11:51 AM
With every such move, Pakistan goes one step further towards its destruction and ultimate slavery.

Already that country is dotted with foreign military bases. It's President has described himself as helpless in the face of threats. It has accepted that it has no control over its northwest frontier.

Pakistan should rid itself of its inferiority complex and especially the elements that keep making trouble for others. Nawaz Sharif did go some way in doing that but he was hampered by the man with the biggest inferiority complex in Pakistan - Pervez Musharraf.

exactly.......pakistan destined to collapse by the weight of madrassa.

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 11:52 AM
many pakis in UK are ashamed of identifying themselves as pakis these days


Either that or are obtaining extremist views and opinions. Either way, its not a healthy sign for Pakistan coz atleast they shud have made some difference in providing the right path for its future.

notoriou$punjabi
September 30th, 2006, 11:53 AM
Either that or are obtaining extremist views and opinions. Either way, its not a healthy sign for Pakistan coz atleast they shud have made some difference in providing the right path for its future.
Pakistans main export is Terrorists. Well trained and highly qualified in taking innocent lives.

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 11:55 AM
Pakistans main export is Terrorists. Well trained and highly qualified in taking innocent lives.


No wonder no Paki came in to defend it this time. If it were a Islam thread, it would have been flocked with self proclaimed Imams frm all over.

notoriou$punjabi
September 30th, 2006, 11:57 AM
No wonder no Paki came in to defend it this time. If it were a Islam thread, it would have been flocked with self proclaimed Imams frm all over.
Religion and nationality should not be mixed.

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 12:03 PM
Religion and nationality should not be mixed.


Dont we all know that...But unfortunately, Islam defines religion and also their way of life and how a nation shud be run. but its mostly religion precedes over anything else.Hence most of the ppl find themselves confused over their so called affection to distant nations who they really wouldnt otherwise care, such as "Palestine" or whatever country US is bombing at the moment. The bond comes frm Islam, not coz they care for those ppl.....They would infact have communal fights over who is better tribe or who believes in purer Islam if they were livin together..but on a bigger scale they display their support. Sad but true....

notoriou$punjabi
September 30th, 2006, 12:05 PM
Dont we all know that...But unfortunately, Islam defines religion and also their way of life and how a nation shud be run. but its mostly religion precedes over anything else.Hence most of the ppl find themselves confused over their so called affection to distant nations who they really wouldnt otherwise care, such as "Palestine" or whatever country US is bombing at the moment. The bond comes frm Islam, not coz they care for those ppl.....They would infact have communal fights over who is better tribe or who believes in purer Islam if they were livin together..but on a bigger scale they display their support. Sad but true....
In order to stop all this from happening religion and nationality should not be mixed


Whatever guidelines were provided only applied for those times. Now in a different era talibanisation and treating women like cattle does not sound very appealing.

Space-Cowboy
September 30th, 2006, 12:06 PM
Ref: https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2003rank.html


Why is it that idiots ALWAYS have to consult the cia fact book when every credible economist [myself included since I hold an economics degree] know that that site is pure garbage. You want stats?
Here:

imf.org

And Growth means SHIT if it's not translated into development. Pakistan's HDI lags SORELY behind India's. The FDI coming into India quadruples Pakistan. You can thank the corruptness of the Musharraf government for that.

kaseem
September 30th, 2006, 12:14 PM
With every such move, Pakistan goes one step further towards its destruction and ultimate slavery.

Already that country is dotted with foreign military bases. It's President has described himself as helpless in the face of threats. It has accepted that it has no control over its northwest frontier.

Pakistan should rid itself of its inferiority complex and especially the elements that keep making trouble for others. Nawaz Sharif did go some way in doing that but he was hampered by the man with the biggest inferiority complex in Pakistan - Pervez Musharraf.


ur lucky you missed out on reading my lil eassy i made for you !

i wrote a whole load and the site keeps loggin me out :no: damn that stuff was intresting as well.

notoriou$punjabi
September 30th, 2006, 12:18 PM
Why is it that idiots ALWAYS have to consult the cia fact book when every credible economist [myself included since I hold an economics degree] know that that site is pure garbage. You want stats?
Here:

imf.org

And Growth means SHIT if it's not translated into development. Pakistan's HDI lags SORELY behind India's. The FDI coming into India quadruples Pakistan. You can thank the corruptness of the Musharraf government for that.
Corruption and Musharraf mean the same to me. Pakistan just needs to work on its democratic system. Indian politicians have been just as corrupt but they do get charged. The public if given the right to vote does use it properly.

Space-Cowboy
September 30th, 2006, 12:20 PM
You insanely idiotic person. The real GDP is the actual growth rate of the economy. The higher the GDP the better the economy is doing if inflation is on check. Maintaining a real GDP growth of over 6% is excellent for any economy.

Actually dude don't waste my time I don't have time to teach you 7th grade stuff.


Uh.... are you fucking stupid? Real GDP itself has nothing to do with rate:

Real GDP: The goods and services that can be bought with the income of all individuals in the economy:

Real GDP values the aggregate product in year [t] at prices prevailing in the base year [0]:

Real GDP = P[1,0] x Q[1,t] + ...+ P[n,0] x Q[n,t]

The GROWTH rate comes in to play when measuring the percentage change in the Real GDP, NOT the GDP itself.


I swear, where the fuck do you kiddies learn your economics? From the back of fucking cereal boxes??

:idea:

Space-Cowboy
September 30th, 2006, 12:30 PM
Here's worldbank.org

http://devdata.worldbank.org/external/CPProfile.asp?PTYPE=CP&CCODE=PAK

NEVER use cia factbooks ever again :idea:

notoriou$punjabi
September 30th, 2006, 12:34 PM
all right uck

get over it now

Space-Cowboy
September 30th, 2006, 12:36 PM
Here's imf.org

http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2004/01/data/dbcoutm.cfm?SD=2001&ED=2005&R1=1&R2=1&CS=3&SS=2&OS=C&DD=0&OUT=1&C=564&S=NGDP_RPCH-NGDPD-NGDP_D-NGDPDPC-PPPWGT-PPPSH-PPPEX-PPPPC-PCPIPCH-PCPI-BCA_NGDPD-BCA&CMP=0&x=83&y=15




Now..... you kiddies go read an actual fucking economics textbook before you make stupid comments without knowing shit from dick. kay?

crystalgems2
September 30th, 2006, 12:48 PM
pakis begging Indians to buy the natural gas stolen from Balochis...
if pipe line goes ahead, time-to-time indians would find pakis instead of gas at the tap in india

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 12:49 PM
pakis begging Indians to buy the natural gas stolen from Balochis...
if pipe line goes ahead, time-to-time indians would find pakis instead of gas at the tap in india

:rofl:

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 12:51 PM
Seriously, wouldnt it be nicer if there was a way to detach India from the cluster fuck of retarded ppl and place us in the western hemisphere...like beside US or some place...where we are away frm crazy ppl.

crystalgems2
September 30th, 2006, 12:51 PM
Here's imf.org

http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2004/01/data/dbcoutm.cfm?SD=2001&ED=2005&R1=1&R2=1&CS=3&SS=2&OS=C&DD=0&OUT=1&C=564&S=NGDP_RPCH-NGDPD-NGDP_D-NGDPDPC-PPPWGT-PPPSH-PPPEX-PPPPC-PCPIPCH-PCPI-BCA_NGDPD-BCA&CMP=0&x=83&y=15

Now..... you kiddies go read an actual fucking economics textbook before you make stupid comments without knowing shit from dick. kay?

if u find any argueing without any basis (in RD), he must be a Paki

foreverconfused
September 30th, 2006, 12:52 PM
Seriously, wouldnt it be nicer if there was a way to detach India from the cluster fuck of retarded ppl and place us in the western hemisphere...like beside US or some place...where we are away frm crazy ppl.

:yes:

Space-Cowboy
September 30th, 2006, 12:52 PM
Oh sorry, so I guess that according to you, what the non-jackass "top police officer" in Mumbai says about Pakistan must be true. :neutral:


Messenger I'm curious, this is offtopic: What religion are you?

I coulda sworn you're Buddhist, but I want to make sure.





Now, back to topic:

If you're Tamil/Sri Lankan and are bitter about LTTE in the 80s being funded by Indian govt., three things, firstly.... it wasn't.... it was rogue agents embezzling money for those purposes..... they've long been stamped out......... as it is 20 years hence. Secondly..... members of the Indian govt., i.e. Rajiv Gandhi, was killed by LTTE..... so India wouldn't readily support them.

Thirdly, there have been clashes on both sides of the Sri Lankan conflict. As of recent, the Tamils are getting stepped on more often than not.








Finally, back to the ORIGINAL topic, if you compare India's and Pakistan's 'rap sheet'..... well..... I'll just leave it at that. ;)

notoriou$punjabi
September 30th, 2006, 12:54 PM
Even lankans got it better than pakistanis let alone bengalis

Tigr
September 30th, 2006, 01:05 PM
Messenger I'm curious, this is offtopic: What religion are you?

I coulda sworn you're Buddhist, but I want to make sure.





Now, back to topic:

If you're Tamil/Sri Lankan and are bitter about LTTE in the 80s being funded by Indian govt., three things, firstly.... it wasn't.... it was rogue agents embezzling money for those purposes..... they've long been stamped out......... as it is 20 years hence. Secondly..... members of the Indian govt., i.e. Rajiv Gandhi, was killed by LTTE..... so India wouldn't readily support them.

Thirdly, there have been clashes on both sides of the Sri Lankan conflict. As of recent, the Tamils are getting stepped on more often than not.








Finally, back to the ORIGINAL topic, if you compare India's and Pakistan's 'rap sheet'..... well..... I'll just leave it at that. ;)


Lets not forget, the hundreds of indian troops killed in Sri lanka by LTTE as they were there for peace keeping mission. Rajiv Gandhi would not have been assasinated by LTTE, if he was helping them.

dopekhor
September 30th, 2006, 01:12 PM
Again........Firstly, u ask us not to poke in others matters...when clearly, its Paki guys who are bombing india.

Second...farmers??? Dint I just say, India is way better without ur excellent input...and also u reiterated that one shudnt butt in others ass...so you shudnt worry abt indian farmers!
and what about the indian guys bombing sri lanka?

notoriou$punjabi
September 30th, 2006, 01:13 PM
and what about the indian guys bombing sri lanka?
Indian guys ?


you got a thing for indian guys ?

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 01:14 PM
and what about the indian guys bombing sri lanka?


Oh great....Bangladeshi hater comes back with stuff he has no clue abt.

Indians blowing Sri Lankans? Do u even have an idea? Atleast that Messenger guy had a lil clue.

dopekhor
September 30th, 2006, 01:19 PM
so...still doesnt answer my question.....why do u get all riled up for the muslims in India? Dont reply with I have family there aswell.....Ask em to move to Bangladesh if u think that India is so fuckin dangerous...Just tell and em and listen to waht theysay.....incase if u did have relatives or family there that is...which I hardly believe anyways.
because you guys are always the 1st point of violation of rights of minorities, in Bangladesh or Pakistan

notoriou$punjabi
September 30th, 2006, 01:21 PM
because you guys are always the 1st point of violation of rights of minorities, in Bangladesh or Pakistan
LOLS


SORRy

lets talk about the progress pakistan or bangladesh have made in order to make life better for the majority ?

Spiky
September 30th, 2006, 01:22 PM
because you guys are always the 1st point of violation of rights of minorities, in Bangladesh or Pakistan

Pointing Violation of Rights Not equates to justifying terrorist activities!!!

If some Indian guy blows up a Mosque in BD, I wont justify it...But You clearly are doing so...esp when the country in question is not even BD...its Pakistan...clearly showing ur intent of hatred. You would do a good job at stoppin here or u would be branded an official RD extremist like Snoppy786.

dopekhor
September 30th, 2006, 01:23 PM
LOLS


SORRy

lets talk about the progress pakistan or bangladesh have made in order to make life better for the majority ?
not that far behind india, when you compare number of people benifitting

foreverconfused
September 30th, 2006, 01:24 PM
not that far behind india, when you compare number of people benifitting

lol