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Swe3tGurlJazmine
September 28th, 2006, 11:15 AM
I think Hindu nationalism is completely necessary to keep the culture and lands of Hindus safe.
India has Muslim fanatics assaulting innocent people for more land to steal. Christians who convert India's poor by offering them false promises, and then encouraging these new converts to rebel against long established traditions of laws governing local areas.
How can this be acceptable for our beloved Bharat?
Jai Hindu-Rashtra!
I am not trying to flame anybody by the way, I came to this forum because I found it interesting and a good place to discuss politics with fellow desis. I am not insulting all Muslims, only violent extremists. I am not insulting all Christians, only those who try to cause violence among the native population of India.
Spiky
September 28th, 2006, 11:17 AM
I agree :salut:
BKnight
September 28th, 2006, 11:18 AM
I think Hindu nationalism is completely necessary to keep the culture and lands of Hindus safe.
India has Muslim fanatics assaulting innocent people for more land to steal. Christians who convert India's poor by offering them false promises, and then encouraging these new converts to rebel against long established traditions of laws governing local areas.
How can this be acceptable for our beloved Bharat?
Jai Hindu-Rashtra!
Your SECOND post....and you are trying to "flame" ......only one question comes to my mind....
"Yo! wassup?"
Spiky
September 28th, 2006, 11:18 AM
ithinkugettingbanned.
:kekeke:
aachoudhry
September 28th, 2006, 11:18 AM
i think youre an idiot
Swe3tGurlJazmine
September 28th, 2006, 11:19 AM
i think youre an idiot
I think Im an idiot too.. :(
aachoudhry
September 28th, 2006, 11:19 AM
I think Im an idiot too.. :(
you are
Spiky
September 28th, 2006, 11:20 AM
i think youre an idiot
Jai Hindustan my Indian Brotha :hug:
aachoudhry
September 28th, 2006, 11:21 AM
Jai Hindustan my Indian Brotha :hug:
im not indian
Spiky
September 28th, 2006, 11:21 AM
I think Im an idiot too.. :(
so who are you? coz u gettin banned anyways...let us all know so we continue ur struggle http://smiliesftw.com/x/hsdance.gif
Swe3tGurlJazmine
September 28th, 2006, 11:22 AM
so who are you? coz u gettin banned anyways...let us all know so we continue ur struggle http://smiliesftw.com/x/hsdance.gif
Why am I getting banned?
Spiky
September 28th, 2006, 11:22 AM
im not indian
Like it matters...we are gonna conquer the world soon anyways...might aswell embrace it :hug:
Spiky
September 28th, 2006, 11:23 AM
Why am I getting banned?
coz......They dont like ur kind in ere.
Space-Cowboy
September 28th, 2006, 11:23 AM
15 pages
aachoudhry
September 28th, 2006, 11:24 AM
Like it matters...we are gonna conquer the world soon anyways...might aswell embrace it :hug:
hahah thats funny
ErOtIcSoUl
September 28th, 2006, 11:26 AM
I agree with you 100% on this
Spiky
September 28th, 2006, 11:27 AM
I agree with you 100% on this
2004 RDer and 23 posts...Lurk Much.
dopekhor
September 28th, 2006, 11:28 AM
who are its enemies?
tjnptel1
September 28th, 2006, 11:28 AM
fuck hindus, muslims, christians, jews, spics, whateverthefuck. Midgets is where it's at. they should have their own religion that will allow beastiality and sex with 8 year olds. :drool:
reaz
September 28th, 2006, 11:28 AM
any sort of religious nationalism subjugates the religious minorities. with a diverse country like india, where 12% of the population is muslim you'd spark an outrage with that model.
Swe3tGurlJazmine
September 28th, 2006, 11:29 AM
who are its enemies?
... Reread the topic post again.
Swe3tGurlJazmine
September 28th, 2006, 11:30 AM
any sort of religious nationalism subjugates the religious minorities. with a diverse country like india, where 12% of the population is muslim you'd spark an outrage with that model.
The Hindu religion is not akin to Islam or Christianity. It does not have to subjugate minorities, through a special kind of tax or such.
zuiwaziri
September 28th, 2006, 11:30 AM
Ummm dunno wht to say except. Go Home Crackie :dunno:
Rizla
September 28th, 2006, 11:30 AM
What are you on about. I'm an Indian Muslim, and my family lives in peace and harmony with everyone else in Lucknow. Why must you stir shit?
All fanatics are a bad influence, no matter what religion.
Except the fanatics of lurrve. They rock, dawg.
aachoudhry
September 28th, 2006, 11:31 AM
fuck hindus, muslims, christians, jews, spics, whateverthefuck. Midgets is where it's at. they should have their own religion that will allow beastiality and sex with 8 year olds. :drool:
:ashamed:
i wish i was a midget
Spiky
September 28th, 2006, 11:32 AM
All I need is some...http://smiliesftw.com/x/hittit2.gif
Swe3tGurlJazmine
September 28th, 2006, 11:32 AM
What are you on about. I'm an Indian Muslim, and my family lives in peace and harmony with everyone else in Lucknow. Why must you stir shit?
All fanatics are a bad influence, no matter what religion.
Except the fanatics of lurrve. They rock, dawg.
I am not saying Indian Muslims are violent or anything. Im just saying Hindu nationalism could be used to unite 80%+ of the population to increase the security of the country.
reaz
September 28th, 2006, 11:33 AM
The Hindu religion is not akin to Islam or Christianity. It does not have to subjugate minorities, through a special kind of tax or such.
No it doesn't but it will definitely impose a certain way of life on people with diametrically opposing beliefs. That is not right.
Rizla
September 28th, 2006, 11:35 AM
I am not saying Indian Muslims are violent or anything. Im just saying Hindu nationalism could be used to unite 80%+ of the population to increase the security of the country.
And segregate the 20%+? How will the increase security?
Space-Cowboy
September 28th, 2006, 11:37 AM
Hindu nationalism will destroy India........ separation of religion and state is imperitive for India's growth.
India NEEDS to remain secular. If it were up to me, I'd have public displays of faith by any religion in India banned. That time and effort could be put to better use, like economic growth.
Now, I DO believe that Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Jains need to remain vastly in the majority of the population in order to preserve our traditions, cultures, way of life, and pluralistic values.
But on the same token I've seen some Indian Muslims just as patriotic about India as the rest.
NYzNiCCa
September 28th, 2006, 11:38 AM
Why am I getting banned?
cuz u is a dumb beech!
Swe3tGurlJazmine
September 28th, 2006, 11:38 AM
No it doesn't but it will definitely impose a certain way of life on people with diametrically opposing beliefs. That is not right.
What is wrong with this? If India is to be a democracy, catering to 80% of the population seems to be a good start.
Also, India is not strong enough as a state. It needs more a solid foundation before it can become more democratic. There are elements of Indian society that take advantage of the petty conflicts in order to wreak havoc.
jspot
September 28th, 2006, 11:41 AM
Hindu Nationalism will destroy india. Hinduism's greatest attribute is tolerance, India's greatest attribute is its diversity, from that will it be a great nation. If it was a to be a hindu only nation, then it will be like Syria or Saudi. just another religious shithole. yes some of the religions invaded india and converted hindus, but the reason hinduism has lasted 5000 years, is because it can bend with the wind and still stand afterwards.
reaz
September 28th, 2006, 11:43 AM
What is wrong with this? If India is to be a democracy, catering to 80% of the population seems to be a good start.
Also, India is not strong enough as a state. It needs more a solid foundation before it can become more democratic. There are elements of Indian society that take advantage of the petty conflicts in order to wreak havoc.
you've misunderstood democracy then. Democracy should not be measured by how it empowers the majority but the rights it provides to the dissidents.
Rizla
September 28th, 2006, 11:44 AM
What is wrong with this? If India is to be a democracy, catering to 80% of the population seems to be a good start.
Also, India is not strong enough as a state. It needs more a solid foundation before it can become more democratic. There are elements of Indian society that take advantage of the petty conflicts in order to wreak havoc.
Have you lived in India?
Have you conducted a survey of people's feelings about this, be they Hindu, Sikh, Muslim?
You must be a psychic to know the feelings/opinions of over a billion people.
Swe3tGurlJazmine
September 28th, 2006, 11:45 AM
you've misunderstood democracy then. Democracy should not be measured by how it empowers the majority but the rights it provides to the dissidents.
There are many forms of democracy my friend. One does not need to limit it to the alleged model of democracy in the United States.
Space-Cowboy
September 28th, 2006, 11:45 AM
Hindu Nationalism will destroy india. Hinduism's greatest attribute is tolerance, India's greatest attribute is its diversity, from that will it be a great nation. If it was a to be a hindu only nation, then it will be like Syria or Saudi. just another religious shithole. yes some of the religions invaded india and converted hindus, but the reason hinduism has lasted 5000 years, is because it can bend with the wind and still stand afterwards.
werd
poojasxy
September 28th, 2006, 11:46 AM
i think the hindu nationals like ram sevaks & shiv sena are trying to saffronize india. ridding the true india of its culture. the flag of india represents the great religions that inhabit bharat. red, green, and saffron. but the hindu nationalists want to change our language, books, and history so they can 'invent' a purely proto-aryan history.
musicchic33
September 28th, 2006, 11:47 AM
Swe3tGurlJazmine for mod! :cheers:
sikh_est_jatt
September 28th, 2006, 11:48 AM
I think Hindu nationalism is completely necessary to keep the culture and lands of Hindus safe.
India has Muslim fanatics assaulting innocent people for more land to steal. Christians who convert India's poor by offering them false promises, and then encouraging these new converts to rebel against long established traditions of laws governing local areas.
How can this be acceptable for our beloved Bharat?
Jai Hindu-Rashtra!
I am not trying to flame anybody by the way, I came to this forum because I found it interesting and a good place to discuss politics with fellow desis. I am not insulting all Muslims, only violent extremists. I am not insulting all Christians, only those who try to cause violence among the native population of India.
Jai Maharashtra .....The SHIV SENA from Maharashtra is so exceptionally strong - Nobody can do shit in the rest of India !!!
HELL YEA - Their hindus are hella - very - strong !!!
Smartchild
September 28th, 2006, 11:49 AM
Agree with u 100%.
reaz
September 28th, 2006, 11:49 AM
There are many forms of democracy my friend. One does not need to limit it to the alleged model of democracy in the United States.
Yes, there are many forms. However, other forms of democracy are not fair where the majority quell the rights of the minorities. It leads to increased dissent.
Spiky
September 28th, 2006, 11:50 AM
Jai Maharashtra .....The SHIV SENA from Maharashtra is so exceptionally strong - Nobody can do shit in the rest of India !!!
HELL YEA - Their hindus are hella - very - strong !!!
w3rd? teeehee
poojasxy
September 28th, 2006, 11:52 AM
I think Hindu nationalism is completely necessary to keep the culture and lands of Hindus safe.
India has Muslim fanatics assaulting innocent people for more land to steal. Christians who convert India's poor by offering them false promises, and then encouraging these new converts to rebel against long established traditions of laws governing local areas.
How can this be acceptable for our beloved Bharat?
Jai Hindu-Rashtra!
I am not trying to flame anybody by the way, I came to this forum because I found it interesting and a good place to discuss politics with fellow desis. I am not insulting all Muslims, only violent extremists. I am not insulting all Christians, only those who try to cause violence among the native population of India.if sati, child marriage, and marrying goats is an established custom, then i am glad they are being pointed out as sick practicies. thank bhagwan attention is being brought to it.
sikh_est_jatt
September 28th, 2006, 11:53 AM
Jai Maharashtra .....The SHIV SENA from Maharashtra is so exceptionally strong - Nobody can do shit in the rest of India !!!
HELL YEA - Their hindus are hella - very - strong !!!
And face it - HINDUISM has been the best thing which happened in south asia - I mean Sikhism,Buddhism,Jainism - All branched out from Hinduism .....Duhh
Before our time - Families in north india ...Used to alternate Hindu and Sikh kids ( the first kid would be sikh, the second kid would be Hindu ) ....And ohh punjab consisted of Himachal Pradesh, Haryana , the Punjab in Pakistan, chandigarh [wasnt built but the land was part of punjab ;) ]
Swe3tGurlJazmine
September 28th, 2006, 11:54 AM
Yes, there are many forms. However, other forms of democracy are not fair where the majority quell the rights of the minorities. It leads to increased dissent.
Oh, there are always ways to deal with dissent. Have you already forgotten Comrade Stalin's political tactics? ;)
Space-Cowboy
September 28th, 2006, 11:55 AM
As I've said before....... India needs to remain secular... none of this Hindu nationalism bullshit.......... they'll ruin India's economy.
reaz
September 28th, 2006, 11:56 AM
Oh, there are always ways to deal with dissent. Have you already forgotten Comrade Stalin's political tactics? ;)
And you think that is a solution. Violence is not the answer to India's problem. And you're deluded if you think so. One form of fanticism does not cancel out another. My argument is complete.
Swe3tGurlJazmine
September 28th, 2006, 11:56 AM
if sati, child marriage, and marrying goats is an established custom, then i am glad they are being pointed out as sick practicies. thank bhagwan attention is being brought to it.
First off, sati had a good purpose behind it at first. It was used by women to kill themselves rather than allow themselves to be taken by Muslim invaders at the time. I also have read that the practice people c ommonly think of is not mentioned in Vedic scripture.
Secondly, using three practices you do not like can not possibly justify the rewriting of hundreds of years of culture and tradition that is otherwise exceptional and amazing.
Spiky
September 28th, 2006, 11:57 AM
if sati, child marriage, and marrying goats is an established custom, then i am glad they are being pointed out as sick practicies. thank bhagwan attention is being brought to it.
You have no clue what ur talkin abt. Might aswell not type garbage.
Swe3tGurlJazmine
September 28th, 2006, 11:57 AM
As I've said before....... India needs to remain secular... none of this Hindu nationalism bullshit.......... they'll ruin India's economy.
Well, I dont believe in full Hindu nationalism. I fully agree that India needs to get it's economy up to modern and acceptable standards.
sikh_est_jatt
September 28th, 2006, 12:02 PM
Well, I dont believe in full Hindu nationalism. I fully agree that India needs to get it's economy up to modern and acceptable standards.
India's economy has boomed and reached more than anybody else except maybe china - The problem is the way we F*** our funds up --- For e.g. 100 crore rupees alloted for a new road --- Will all be eaten up by all the officials from the district collecter ( who knows maybe even the CM or the governer ) all the way down to the peon ---ANd what reaches to build the road is 1/10 th of the original sum of cash leading to bad quality stuff and terrible infrastructure !!!
jspot
September 28th, 2006, 12:03 PM
most of you pro hindu nationlist don't know nothing about india except what you read in the papers and what your drunk uncles says about india. Most hindus in India do not want hindu nationalist pushing their morals on others as well as them. They rather live side by side peacfully with their sikh, chrisitian, and muslim neighbors. Also you forget, that muslims, christian, jains, buddhist, and sikhs also fought for India's indpendance nearly 60 years ago. They stood side by side by hindus to drive out the british. How powerful a united india is. But then once they divided, they hurt themselves tremendously. hindu nationalism is a disease in india.
Rizla
September 28th, 2006, 12:05 PM
most of you pro hindu nationlist don't know nothing about india except what you read in the papers and what your drunk uncles says about india. Most hindus in India do not want hindu nationalist pushing their morals on others as well as them. They rather live side by side peacfully with their sikh, chrisitian, and muslim neighbors. Also you forget, that muslims, christian, jains, buddhist, and sikhs also fought for India's indpendance nearly 60 years ago. They stood side by side by hindus to drive out the british. How powerful a united india is. But then once they divided, they hurt themselves tremendously. hindu nationalism is a disease in india.
:werd:
poojasxy
September 28th, 2006, 12:07 PM
india is a secular country. the extremists of ANY religion shouldnt be allowed to rule it. hindu nationalism will not create more jobs & better infrastructure. india needs to take care of its own country first by having a better sanitation system & feeding the poor. garbage is everywhere in mumbai & humans are competing for space along w/ animals that piss & defecate on the street.
kicking out the muslims & christians in india will not solve anything. it will make it worse.. it will just recreate 1993 gujarat all over again.
zuiwaziri
September 28th, 2006, 12:08 PM
As a Pakistani Muslim, this is Fun to read. Finally a thread which has nothing to do with me :cheers:
Swe3tGurlJazmine
September 28th, 2006, 12:10 PM
People have made many good points in this topic.
I never said to kick out Muslims or Christians though. Limited influence=/=mass expulsion
jspot
September 28th, 2006, 12:12 PM
People have made many good points in this topic.
I never said to kick out Muslims or Christians though. Limited influence=/=mass expulsion
doesn't treating others in this manner go against the fundamentals of hinduism? Isn't hindu nationalist an oxymoron?
sikh_est_jatt
September 28th, 2006, 12:14 PM
First off, sati had a good purpose behind it at first. It was used by women to kill themselves rather than allow themselves to be taken by Muslim invaders at the time. I also have read that the practice people c ommonly think of is not mentioned in Vedic scripture.
Secondly, using three practices you do not like can not possibly justify the rewriting of hundreds of years of culture and tradition that is otherwise exceptional and amazing.
I m Sikh but i m gonna expose the follies of each religion :
(Mind you these are not part of the original religion but were just stuffed into the heresay by some ignorant bastards )
I ll start with my own religion :-
Sikhism = The khalistan shit
Hinduism = sati, child marriage, infanticide, goat marriage
Buddhism/Jainism = A lil too peaceful and tolerant - Which can make other people take
Rest continued in a new thread ..... Damn i ll make a new thread of this.........
sikh_est_jatt
September 28th, 2006, 12:16 PM
I m Sikh but i m gonna expose the follies of each religion :
(Mind you these are not part of the original religion but were just stuffed into the heresay by some ignorant bastards )
I ll start with my own religion :-
Sikhism = The khalistan shit
Hinduism = sati, child marriage, infanticide, goat marriage
Buddhism/Jainism = A lil too peaceful and tolerant - Which can make other people take
Rest continued in a new thread ..... Damn i ll make a new thread of this.........
never mind here is the whole thing :-
Sikhism = The khalistan shit
Hinduism = sati, child marriage, infanticide, goat marriage
Buddhism/Jainism = A lil too peaceful and tolerant - Which can make other people take you for a ride in today's world ---Refer to What is being done to Falun Gong people in China.
Islam = Converting Jihad (peaceful war) into an unpeaceful war, the 72 virgin theory (imagine a female getting 72 virgins) , And the unequality of men and women in Islam are glaring plus the stress on converting others into Islam.
Christianity = The crusades are a thing of the past .... The Catholics etc (mostly white people are racist and think their religion is superior to the others) , plus their is an exceptionally strong practice to convert others into christianity (esp in Europe)
Judaism (Jewish) = Too prehistoric by today's standards, No wonder jews are made fun of everywhere.
dopekhor
September 28th, 2006, 01:21 PM
Jai Maharashtra .....The SHIV SENA from Maharashtra is so exceptionally strong - Nobody can do shit in the rest of India !!!
HELL YEA - Their hindus are hella - very - strong !!!
no shit, most of bombay is controled by muslim god fathers like dawood ibrahim!
dopekhor
September 28th, 2006, 01:24 PM
First off, sati had a good purpose behind it at first. It was used by women to kill themselves rather than allow themselves to be taken by Muslim invaders at the time. I also have read that the practice people c ommonly think of is not mentioned in Vedic scripture.
Secondly, using three practices you do not like can not possibly justify the rewriting of hundreds of years of culture and tradition that is otherwise exceptional and amazing.
dude saati came into existence way before islam was born! :roll:
Spiky
September 28th, 2006, 01:30 PM
no shit, most of bombay is controled by muslim god fathers like dawood ibrahim!
dude saati came into existence way before islam was born! :roll:
Why do u insist on displaying ur stupidity time and again.
dopekhor
September 28th, 2006, 01:37 PM
Why do u insist on displaying ur stupidity time and again.
why do you consider facts against you to be "stupidity"?
Space-Cowboy
September 28th, 2006, 01:42 PM
This is getting out of hand...... in terms of sati.... it really has no Vedic basis......... and really no Hindu Philosophical basis either [you won't find it mentioned anywhere in the Gita].......
However, it HAS been practiced in the past.... wrongfully...... and wrongfully endorsed by corrupt Brahmins.......
But, it is also true that the contexts in which it was practiced, say during the Gupta Dynasty, and the Mughal Dynasty, were under different contexts.
Spiky
September 28th, 2006, 01:42 PM
why do you consider facts against you to be "stupidity"?
Because those arent facts. Sati as mentioned earlier was started as a ritual for the widowers so that they wont be taken as captives by the Mughals. If u say Sati was practiced before islam....Than werent Mughals muslims?
reaz
September 28th, 2006, 01:44 PM
Sati predates Islam. In any case how can it be a good thing? You're losing a life.
reaz
September 28th, 2006, 01:46 PM
Sati predates Islam. In any case how can it be a good thing? You're losing a life.
Let me rephrase that. You're taking a life.
dopekhor
September 28th, 2006, 02:01 PM
Because those arent facts. Sati as mentioned earlier was started as a ritual for the widowers so that they wont be taken as captives by the Mughals. If u say Sati was practiced before islam....Than werent Mughals muslims?
as far as i know saati even existed during Asokas rule!
Indian1986
September 28th, 2006, 02:09 PM
no shit, most of bombay is controled by muslim god fathers like dawood ibrahim!
Not really...Mumbai is actually overrun byt many gangs...D-Company is almost powerless right now...Dawood has too many hindu enemies (Apart from Shiv Sena)like chotta rajan , shetty gang and arun gawli.
paulie walnuts
September 28th, 2006, 02:15 PM
no shit, most of bombay is controled by muslim god fathers like dawood ibrahim!is news in bangladesh on a 15-year delay or something?
Space-Cowboy
September 28th, 2006, 02:17 PM
is news in bangladesh on a 15-year delay or something?
Just the news?
I kidd I kidddd :p
Indian1986
September 28th, 2006, 02:33 PM
as far as i know saati even existed during Asokas rule!
That's true but it started way back during brahminical era by the brahmins. It was for maintaining the caste, which was very important for the welfare of those brahmins, who were benefited by it. The brahmins enclosed themselves into a caste, thus forcing others to be the other caste. The actual vedic practice was for a widow to marry her dead husband's younger brother.There is no suggestion of anyone committing sati in rigvedas.
Let these unwidowed dames with noble husbands adorn themselves with fragrant balm and unguent. Decked with fair jewels, tearless, free from sorrow, first let the dames go up to where he lieth.
(Rig Veda: Book 10, hymn 18.7)
Rise, come unto the world of life, O woman: come, he is lifeless by whose side thou liest. Wifehood with this thy husband was thy portion, who took thy hand and wooed thee as a lover.
(Rig Veda: Book 10, hymn 18.8)
From his dead hand I take the bow be carried, that it may be our power and might and glory. There art thou, there; and here with noble heroes may we overcome all hosts that fight against us.
(Rig Veda: Book 10, hymn 18.9)
In mahabharath kunti did not commit sati after her husband.
Also Medhatithi a commentator on vedas said :
"One shall not die before the span of one's life is run out"
Spiky
September 28th, 2006, 02:37 PM
Guess what i thot abt sati wasnt right then...Well Dopekhor I take my post back. Maybe u were right afterall...Cheers :hug:
Indian1986
September 28th, 2006, 02:41 PM
i think the hindu nationals like ram sevaks & shiv sena are trying to saffronize india. ridding the true india of its culture. the flag of india represents the great religions that inhabit bharat. red, green, and saffron. but the hindu nationalists want to change our language, books, and history so they can 'invent' a purely proto-aryan history.
:rofl: Do you even know the colors in the indian flag ?IT's white green orange and blue ashoka chakra in the centre.
Indian1986
September 28th, 2006, 02:49 PM
Guess what i thot abt sati wasnt right then...Well Dopekhor I take my post back. Maybe u were right afterall...Cheers :hug:
What you said isn't false either.I am a rajput and whenever we lost a battle against muslims, in order to save the honor and dignity , the rajput women would perform Jauhar or self immolation by jumping into the sacrificial fire inside the fort.A prime example is rani padmini who with 16000 Rajput women did jauhar in Chittorgarh when they lost to Alauddin khilji.
desi_uk_jatt
September 28th, 2006, 03:17 PM
What the fuck happened to sikhs.. penchod
poojasxy
September 28th, 2006, 03:19 PM
:rofl: Do you even know the colors in the indian flag ?IT's white green orange and blue ashoka chakra in the centre.wtf do u think saffron is, u dumb ogre. saffron is orange. :rolleyes:
desi_uk_jatt
September 28th, 2006, 03:24 PM
wtf do u think saffron is, u dumb ogre. saffron is orange. :rolleyes:
:werd:
jspot
September 28th, 2006, 03:25 PM
wtf do u think saffron is, u dumb ogre. saffron is orange. :rolleyes:
so where is the red, smarty?
Space-Cowboy
September 28th, 2006, 03:27 PM
What the fuck happened to sikhs.. penchod
I'm with you bro :salut: :D
desi_uk_jatt
September 28th, 2006, 03:35 PM
I'm with you bro :salut: :D
Thread maker is ignorant fucktard...
Space-Cowboy
September 28th, 2006, 03:42 PM
Thread maker is ignorant fucktard...
And I've stated, Hindu nationalism will severly hurt India, and hurt India's economy. India needs to remain secular, STRICTLY SECULAR. In the long run it will be better for India's economy and national defense and social welfare.
snoop786
September 28th, 2006, 03:55 PM
Kafir nation cannot be successful without Muslims
snoop786
September 28th, 2006, 03:57 PM
What the fuck happened to sikhs.. penchod
Lol yall Sikhs need to migrate to Pakistan
Space-Cowboy
September 28th, 2006, 04:00 PM
Kafir nation cannot be successful without Muslims
Since India is one of the leading 12 economies in the world, they're doing quite fine as a 'kafir nation' regardless of religion.
Lol yall Sikhs need to migrate to Pakistan
Sikhs have a higher standard of living in India, they're probably not moving to Pakistan anytime soon.
In otherwords, you're an idiot.
snoop786
September 28th, 2006, 04:09 PM
Since India is one of the leading 12 economies in the world, they're doing quite fine as a 'kafir nation' regardless of religion.
Sikhs have a higher standard of living in India, they're probably not moving to Pakistan anytime soon.
In otherwords, you're an idiot.
The guy who runs India nuclear plant is Muslim
And if Sikhs are happy in India how come most Sikhs I came across does not want to be know as Indian. And Sikhs are trying to form their own nation Khalistan..
jspot
September 28th, 2006, 04:10 PM
well there you go take a look at it. pakistan and bengladesh are religious states, look what a shithole they are. being secular and diverse for this long, look at the progress we are making.
Spiky
September 28th, 2006, 04:10 PM
The guy who runs India nuclear plant is Muslim
And if Sikhs are happy in India how come most Sikhs I came across does not want to be know as Indian. And Sikhs are trying to form their own nation Khalistan..
Terrorist Alert.
snoop786
September 28th, 2006, 04:11 PM
well there you go take a look at it. pakistan and bengladesh are religious states, look what a shithole they are. being secular and diverse for this long, look at the progress we are making.
Pakistan does not have much poverty as much as India as for Bangladesh its a new nation plus mother nature never did Bangladesh any good..
jspot
September 28th, 2006, 04:12 PM
Pakistan does not have much poverty as much as India as for Bangladesh its a new nation plus mother nature never did Bangladesh any good..
a shithole is a shithole. and both are.
Indian1986
September 28th, 2006, 04:12 PM
The guy who runs India nuclear plant is Muslim
And if Sikhs are happy in India how come most Sikhs I came across does not want to be know as Indian. And Sikhs are trying to form their own nation Khalistan..
The guy who really started the whole nuclear thing is Homi bhabha and he's a parsi(Zoroastrian).
If sikhs are not happy with india then why do you think they form 12% of the indian army even though they are jsut 2% of the indian population.
snoop786
September 28th, 2006, 04:12 PM
Terrorist Alert.
stfu you black south Indian paraya
Spiky
September 28th, 2006, 04:14 PM
Pakistan does not have much poverty as much as India as for Bangladesh its a new nation plus mother nature never did Bangladesh any good..
Do urself a favor and strap a bomb and kill urself. Alone! Or take any of ur family members and friends along who are as extremist as ur.
Indian1986
September 28th, 2006, 04:14 PM
wtf do u think saffron is, u dumb ogre. saffron is orange. :rolleyes:
you are really dumb ...show me where is red in indian flag..
http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/3328/indflag1.gif
jumpn jza
September 28th, 2006, 04:15 PM
Some Hindu nationalist parties (RSS) are just retarded...
Spiky
September 28th, 2006, 04:15 PM
stfu you black south Indian paraya
So when is ur visa expiring jihadi..what do u plan to do later...Blow up sears tower?
Indian1986
September 28th, 2006, 04:16 PM
And I've stated, Hindu nationalism will severly hurt India, and hurt India's economy. India needs to remain secular, STRICTLY SECULAR. In the long run it will be better for India's economy and national defense and social welfare.
agree...Fuck VHP/RSS/BJP and also Congress/Communists.
jumpn jza
September 28th, 2006, 04:16 PM
Kafir nation cannot be successful without Muslims
a new fucking idiot....hello fucking idiot...
Space-Cowboy
September 28th, 2006, 04:17 PM
The guy who runs India nuclear plant is Muslim
Stupidest reasoning I ever heard, if it wasn't him, it would've been someone else, not necessarily Muslim, it has nothing to do with religion you idiot.
And if Sikhs are happy in India how come most Sikhs I came across does not want to be know as Indian. And Sikhs are trying to form their own nation Khalistan..
The Khalistan movement is long dead, ....as the PM is Sikh and as most Sikhs are just as patriotic, if not more, than most Hindus. :idea:
Stop talking about things you know nothing about.
NYzNiCCa
September 28th, 2006, 04:19 PM
why not erect a wall around india and stay within its boundaries? i mean that should be enough protection.
poojasxy
September 28th, 2006, 04:19 PM
a 6th miss world winner will save india from self annihilation.
NYzNiCCa
September 28th, 2006, 04:21 PM
a 6th miss world winner will save india from self annihilation.
you will be the perfect candidate for that position....so are you still skinny or have u gained weight? :hug:
Space-Cowboy
September 28th, 2006, 04:22 PM
Originally Posted by snoop786
Pakistan does not have much poverty as much as India as for Bangladesh its a new nation plus mother nature never did Bangladesh any good..
Uhh, wrong. :idea:... on so many different levels.
NYzNiCCa
September 28th, 2006, 04:23 PM
Uhh, wrong. :idea:... on so many different levels.
dude number wise india does have a lot of poverty but if u go by percentages then im sure we're pbbly on the same level.
poojasxy
September 28th, 2006, 04:24 PM
you will be the perfect candidate for that position....so are you still skinny or have u gained weight? :hug:jaanu!!!! :kiss:
aaaww... where have u been? im a fat cow now. :(
NYzNiCCa
September 28th, 2006, 04:26 PM
jaanu!!!! :kiss:
aaaww... where have u been? im a fat cow now. :(
ive been here...i dont see u post anymore...are u kidding me u gained weight?
if so show me proof...pm me pics :arrow:
jumpn jza
September 28th, 2006, 04:26 PM
Pakistan does not have much poverty as much as India as for Bangladesh its a new nation plus mother nature never did Bangladesh any good..
have u checked the figured mate??....in terms of population below the poverty line??
Pakistan : 32% (population below poverty line)
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/pk.html
India: 25% (population below poverty line)
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/in.html
Felonius Monk
September 28th, 2006, 04:28 PM
DEATH TO THE INFIDEL COW EATERS !
NYzNiCCa
September 28th, 2006, 04:29 PM
have u checked the figured mate??....in terms of population below the poverty line??
Pakistan : 32% (population below poverty line)
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/pk.html
India: 25% (population below poverty line)
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/in.html
Pakistan has more poverty than india relative to the population...
thats exactly what i was saying but paksitans population is 1/5 of india so u know...number wise more people are living in poverty than the whole population of pakistan...damn thats a scary thought.
Space-Cowboy
September 28th, 2006, 04:29 PM
dude number wise india does have a lot of poverty but if u go by percentages then im sure we're pbbly on the same level.
Not really, Pakistan really is lagging behind, you can that Musharraf's greediness for that. .... He really is a U.S. puppet :|
You guys could do so much better if you got rid of him.... and had REAL democracy in place.
Indian1986
September 28th, 2006, 04:29 PM
India has more number of poor people simply because it has a huge population.
also the poverty rate in india has gone down from 40% to 25% in the last decade.That's something we all must be proud of..
Indian1986
September 28th, 2006, 04:30 PM
DEATH TO THE INFIDEL COW EATERS !
actually it should be meat eaters...
jspot
September 28th, 2006, 04:31 PM
dude number wise india does have a lot of poverty but if u go by percentages then im sure we're pbbly on the same level.
no one counts pure numbers. its all about relativity. percentages.
that means, india has more, fair, rich, sexy, and goodlooking people that pakistan.
hell india shits outweight the whole pakistani popluations.
pure numbers? where the hell were you educated?
NYzNiCCa
September 28th, 2006, 04:32 PM
Not really, Pakistan really is lagging behind, you can that Musharraf's greediness for that. .... He really is a U.S. puppet :|
You guys could do so much better if you got rid of him.... and had REAL democracy in place.
I dono man...all these politicians are the same... :neutral:
Felonius Monk
September 28th, 2006, 04:32 PM
actually it should be meat eaters...
IF YOURE NOT WITH US YOURE AGAINST US
NYzNiCCa
September 28th, 2006, 04:33 PM
no one counts pure numbers. its all about relativity. percentages.
that means, india has more, fair, rich, sexy, and goodlooking people that pakistan.
hell india shits outweight the whole pakistani popluations.
pure numbers? where the hell were you educated?
asscrack...in this i decided to look at the numbers i know its all about percentages....ur such a retard...
jumpn jza
September 28th, 2006, 04:33 PM
thats exactly what i was saying but paksitans population is 1/5 of india so u know...number wise more people are living in poverty than the whole population of pakistan...damn thats a scary thought.
yeh its terrible...its gets really pathetic when ppl like snoop786 try to cause division by saying that one is better than the other, we are in fact in the same boat, we both have our own problems...
Felonius Monk
September 28th, 2006, 04:34 PM
YOU WILL ALL BE REINCARNATED AS PUBES
NYzNiCCa
September 28th, 2006, 04:34 PM
IF YOURE NOT WITH US YOURE AGAINST US
i love beef. :yum:
NYzNiCCa
September 28th, 2006, 04:35 PM
yeh its terrible...its gets really pathetic when ppl like snoop786 tries to cause division by saying that one is better than the other, we are in fact in the same both, we both have our own problems...
i feel bad for poor population of third world countries....they have nothing to live for.... :neutral:
NYzNiCCa
September 28th, 2006, 04:35 PM
YOU WILL ALL BE REINCARNATED AS PUBES
only if thy are of sikh people.... :p :p i keed i keed.
Spiky
September 28th, 2006, 04:36 PM
Great. I love beef and Pork...And that too Not halal. Regular Burger King Goodies.
NYzNiCCa
September 28th, 2006, 04:37 PM
Great. I love beef and Pork...And that too Not halal. Regular Burger King Goodies.
whoppers from BK are the shittttttttt!
jspot
September 28th, 2006, 04:38 PM
that is a first world mentality.
people in third world countries can survive with what they have around them. they know how to make do. compare the poorest people in Pakistan with the Poorest people in the US. The people in the US look like kings. but the poor in Pakistan still make due with alot less. true survivors are the people in third world countries. we are spoiled in the west.
Space-Cowboy
September 28th, 2006, 04:38 PM
The idea of eating either beef or worse, pork makes me sick :|
jumpn jza
September 28th, 2006, 04:38 PM
i feel bad for poor population of third world countries....they have nothing to live for.... :neutral:
exactly, we tend to think that india and paistan has rampant poverty, but thats nothing compared to Africa and Latin America...Guatemala has 70% of its population below the poverty line...and Sierra Leone has an average life expectancy of 37... :(
India and Pakistan should be glad that they have developed governments who can potentially do something about these things...unlike the drug economies of columbia and the rest of central america..
Felonius Monk
September 28th, 2006, 04:39 PM
Meh. This is boring. Hindus suck.
NYzNiCCa
September 28th, 2006, 04:43 PM
that is a first world mentality.
people in third world countries can survive with what they have around them. they know how to make do. compare the poorest people in Pakistan with the Poorest people in the US. The people in the US look like kings. but the poor in Pakistan still make due with alot less. true survivors are the people in third world countries. we are spoiled in the west.
i agree!
foreverconfused
September 28th, 2006, 04:43 PM
is news in bangladesh on a 15-year delay or something?
:rofl:
NYzNiCCa
September 28th, 2006, 04:43 PM
The idea of eating either beef or worse, pork makes me sick :|
i only like beef from certrain places...do u eat chicken?
NYzNiCCa
September 28th, 2006, 04:45 PM
exactly, we tend to think that india and paistan has rampant poverty, but thats nothing compared to Africa and Latin America...Guatemala has 70% of its population below the poverty line...and Sierra Leone has an average life expectancy of 37... :(
India and Pakistan should be glad that they have developed governments who can potentially do something about these things...unlike the drug economies of columbia and the rest of central america..
:shock: sad...people in the west dont even think about marriage when they are that age.... :(
Space-Cowboy
September 28th, 2006, 04:49 PM
i only like beef from certrain places...do u eat chicken?
Of course, and goat and deer, and bison, etc etc. :D Just not beef or pork :p
NYzNiCCa
September 28th, 2006, 04:50 PM
Of course, and goat and deer, and bison, etc etc. :D Just not beef or pork :p
:rofl: :p :p :p :p lamb = :yum:
sexxichic2envy
September 28th, 2006, 04:51 PM
ithinkugettingbanned.
:kekeke:
:lol:
sexxichic2envy
September 28th, 2006, 04:58 PM
I am not saying Indian Muslims are violent or anything. Im just saying Hindu nationalism could be used to unite 80%+ of the population to increase the security of the country.
Increase security?? Are you smokin that good shit? Cuz if so, pass it on ova hurr!!
firstly, india isn't just hindus, christians, and muslims. And muslims are as important to india as are hindus...as are Christians. You're not sayin indian muslims are violent? actually, seems as though that's exactly what you're saying. Why don't you join the Nazis and just annihilate every human who doesn't seem peace-loving or who doesn't meet your criteria?
desi_uk_jatt
September 28th, 2006, 05:01 PM
The guy who runs India nuclear plant is Muslim
And if Sikhs are happy in India how come most Sikhs I came across does not want to be know as Indian. And Sikhs are trying to form their own nation Khalistan..
Only those who are living abroad and were affected in 84...
that constitute only 3-5% of sikhs
rest of them all are cool with india .. including me
NYzNiCCa
September 28th, 2006, 05:02 PM
Increase security?? Are you smokin that good shit? Cuz if so, pass it on ova hurr!!
firstly, india isn't just hindus, christians, and muslims. And muslims are as important to india as are hindus...as are Christians. You're not sayin indian muslims are violent? actually, seems as though that's exactly what you're saying. Why don't you join the Nazis and just annihilate every human who doesn't seem peace-loving or who doesn't meet your criteria?
im in love with u....:love: will u marry me my punjabi princess. :kiss:
sexxichic2envy
September 28th, 2006, 05:09 PM
most of you pro hindu nationlist don't know nothing about india except what you read in the papers and what your drunk uncles says about india. Most hindus in India do not want hindu nationalist pushing their morals on others as well as them. They rather live side by side peacfully with their sikh, chrisitian, and muslim neighbors. Also you forget, that muslims, christian, jains, buddhist, and sikhs also fought for India's indpendance nearly 60 years ago. They stood side by side by hindus to drive out the british. How powerful a united india is. But then once they divided, they hurt themselves tremendously. hindu nationalism is a disease in india.
:applause: EXACTLY......How can you forget all the ppl who fought side by side for India's freedom? Which includes Sikhs, Muslims, Christians, etc.
dopekhor
September 28th, 2006, 05:11 PM
is news in bangladesh on a 15-year delay or something?
you the new don of bombay or something?
dopekhor
September 28th, 2006, 05:13 PM
exactly, we tend to think that india and paistan has rampant poverty, but thats nothing compared to Africa and Latin America...Guatemala has 70% of its population below the poverty line...and Sierra Leone has an average life expectancy of 37... :(
India and Pakistan should be glad that they have developed governments who can potentially do something about these things...unlike the drug economies of columbia and the rest of central america..
even if desis were the richest race on earth, they still wouldnt be glad
sexxichic2envy
September 28th, 2006, 05:14 PM
im in love with u....:love: will u marry me my punjabi princess. :kiss:
I was waiting for you to ask. My prayers have been answered. :cuddle:
But I will not convert
Indian1986
September 28th, 2006, 05:15 PM
even if desis were the richest race on earth, they still wouldnt be glad
we were the richest people throughout history except for the last 200 years..
Spiky
September 28th, 2006, 05:18 PM
we were the richest people throughout history except for the last 200 years..
Damn Right....And we all soon will be again. http://smiliesftw.com/x/highfive.gif
foreverconfused
September 28th, 2006, 05:20 PM
I'd never, ever support anything that made Indian minorities feel uncomfortable or unsafe... but a few of the people offering criticisms to the thread-starter sound like hypocritical assholes, to be honest.
paulie walnuts
September 28th, 2006, 05:20 PM
we were the richest people throughout history except for the last 200 years..please stop.
seriously.
dopekhor
September 28th, 2006, 05:21 PM
That's true but it started way back during brahminical era by the brahmins. It was for maintaining the caste, which was very important for the welfare of those brahmins, who were benefited by it. The brahmins enclosed themselves into a caste, thus forcing others to be the other caste. The actual vedic practice was for a widow to marry her dead husband's younger brother.There is no suggestion of anyone committing sati in rigvedas.
Let these unwidowed dames with noble husbands adorn themselves with fragrant balm and unguent. Decked with fair jewels, tearless, free from sorrow, first let the dames go up to where he lieth.
(Rig Veda: Book 10, hymn 18.7)
Rise, come unto the world of life, O woman: come, he is lifeless by whose side thou liest. Wifehood with this thy husband was thy portion, who took thy hand and wooed thee as a lover.
(Rig Veda: Book 10, hymn 18.8)
From his dead hand I take the bow be carried, that it may be our power and might and glory. There art thou, there; and here with noble heroes may we overcome all hosts that fight against us.
(Rig Veda: Book 10, hymn 18.9)
In mahabharath kunti did not commit sati after her husband.
Also Medhatithi a commentator on vedas said :
"One shall not die before the span of one's life is run out"
thank you for clearing that out bhai!
dopekhor
September 28th, 2006, 05:22 PM
we were the richest people throughout history except for the last 200 years..
if only they were evil like the europeans, we'd still be the richest!
jumpn jza
September 28th, 2006, 05:25 PM
:shock: sad...people in the west dont even think about marriage when they are that age.... :(
:werd:...
Indian1986
September 28th, 2006, 05:29 PM
if only they were evil like the europeans, we'd still be the richest!
We have never conquered. That is our glory.
dopekhor
September 28th, 2006, 05:32 PM
We have never conquered. That is our glory.
i wouldnt say that!
foreverconfused
September 28th, 2006, 05:33 PM
We have never conquered. That is our glory.
I agree 100%.
Space-Cowboy
September 28th, 2006, 05:44 PM
if only they were evil like the europeans, we'd still be the richest!
They went around converting Native Americans into Christianity and destroying their culture, and robbing them of their territory/land.... and addicting them to alcohol.
dopekhor
September 28th, 2006, 05:49 PM
They went around converting Native Americans into Christianity and destroying their culture, and robbing them of their territory/land.... and addicting them to alcohol.
and now its full of hoochie mamis :no:
Space-Cowboy
September 28th, 2006, 05:53 PM
and now its full of hoochie mamis :no:
wha? :sarb:
Spiky
September 28th, 2006, 05:55 PM
We have never conquered. That is our glory.
I agree 100%.
Do u think that has anything to do with a mind set of an average indian as such? Like do u believe that ferocity as such is not in our blood? And we all are somber, peace loving hippies coz we never were pissed off in the first place.
Coz sometimes I tend to think thats the reason why we dont compete well on international arena in terms of say sports. That we dont have that drive to be mad or that "oomph" like in Olympics....lol.
foreverconfused
September 28th, 2006, 06:39 PM
Do u think that has anything to do with a mind set of an average indian as such? Like do u believe that ferocity as such is not in our blood? And we all are somber, peace loving hippies coz we never were pissed off in the first place.
Coz sometimes I tend to think thats the reason why we dont compete well on international arena in terms of say sports. That we dont have that drive to be mad or that "oomph" like in Olympics....lol.
:rofl:
hahaha it's true we suck at sports.
it's probably genetic. ABDs suck at sports too :(
Space-Cowboy
September 28th, 2006, 06:48 PM
:rofl:
hahaha it's true we suck at sports.
it's probably genetic. ABDs suck at sports too :(
Speak for yourselves :squint:
I teh Muay Thai and Soccer roxxorz :Peace:
:cool:
:geek:
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