HipHop heads enter..

[Lishie]

I will keep making this thread untill one becomes worthy..


AZ > Nas

Reasonable Doubt > Illmatic

HipHop > Life..

discuss everything about HipHop in this thread.

[Gimmeck]

Free Style... JUice > GOD
Besides that Eyedea owns.

Sage God of underground poetry

[illomatic]

I will keep making this thread untill one becomes worthy..


AZ > Nas

Reasonable Doubt > Illmatic

HipHop > Life..

discuss everything about HipHop in this thread.
I will keep making this thread untill one becomes worthy..


AZ >/< Nas (lyrically nas, flow/cleverness az)

Reasonable Doubt >/< Illmatic (in their own ways)

HipHop = Life..

[.AK.]

.AK. > *

[Lishie]

I will keep making this thread untill one becomes worthy..


AZ >/< Nas (lyrically nas, flow/cleverness az)

Reasonable Doubt >/< Illmatic (in their own ways)

HipHop = Life..

good call illo..
AZ is realer than Nas, realness is most important to me.. Nas is SOMEWHAT IMO a fake emcee..

[Lishie]

.AK. > *
fool.

[Lishie]

Free Style... JUice > GOD
Besides that Eyedea owns.

Sage God of underground poetry


they way you typed that made it really hard to understand what you were saying.

[illomatic]

good call illo..
AZ is realer than Nas, realness is most important to me.. Nas is SOMEWHAT IMO a fake emcee..
Most *****s ain't real out there.

Money blinds em.
the Fame dumbs em down.

[illomatic]

az - the format.


song of the week./month/ possibly year.

[Lishie]

hence I barely have respect for rapmusic 2002 till date.

[illomatic]

hence I barely have respect for rapmusic 2002 till date.
people had respect for rap circa 2002 + ? lol

i hope not.

[SpicyBrownRapper]

Let me know when AZ comes close to making an album the same caliber as Illmatic

[Lishie]

az - the format.


song of the week./month/ possibly year.


I think I've got a fucked up version of that.. mine's only 2 verses I think.. it's like 1:49 or something..

Primo hooked him up.. REAL NICE.

[Gimmeck]

they way you typed that made it really hard to understand what you were saying.
HUH? How could I have made any clearer?

[illomatic]

I think I've got a fucked up version of that.. mine's only 2 verses I think.. it's like 1:49 or something..

Primo hooked him up.. REAL NICE.
want the full version?

pm me with ur aol/msn so i can send u it

[illomatic]

Let me know when AZ comes close to making an album the same caliber as Illmatic
He doesn't have the same sources/backing as nas.

he wont, but AZ got fire.

thing is he's not consistent with hot tracks and he spits shit to the street, not *****s in mansions.

[Lishie]

He doesn't have the same sources/backing as nas.

he wont, but AZ got fire.

thing is he's not consistent with hot tracks and he spits shit to the street, not *****s in mansions.


realness > everything..

[Lishie]

Let me know when AZ comes close to making an album the same caliber as Illmatic


he won't.

but as an overall emcee.. AZ.

[SpicyBrownRapper]

He doesn't have the same sources/backing as nas.

he wont, but AZ got fire.

thing is he's not consistent with hot tracks and he spits shit to the street, not *****s in mansions.

Nor does he have the same lyrical abilities, writing rhyme schemes, word plays, mic presence or the energy Nas delivers his music with.

[illomatic]

Nor does he have the same lyrical abilities, writing rhyme schemes, word plays, mic presence or the energy Nas delivers his music with.
he's pretty damn good though... u can't knock his flow

[Infamous_Punjabi]

i AM hip hop

[notoriou$punjabi]

Gurdas Mann > Hip Hop

[SpicyBrownRapper]

he's pretty damn good though... u can't knock his flow

He's no where close to being on Nas' level.

[illomatic]

He's no where close to being on Nas' level.
never said so.

[Lishie]

Nor does he have the same lyrical abilities, writing rhyme schemes, word plays, mic presence or the energy Nas delivers his music with.


everyone has got there own opinion, I hate folks on the Nas train.

[SpicyBrownRapper]

everyone has got there own opinion, I hate folks on the Nas train.


Of course people have opinions, but you've gotta look at this objectively. You really think AZ is on Nas' level? I don't even think its close. Granted AZ made some good music, but Nas has been pretty damn consistent (sans one album). Not to mention he technically outperforms AZ any given day. I'm not even a huge Nas fan, I will probably choose 20 other rappers over him to listen to, but the dude is gifted.

[illomatic]

Of course people have opinions, but you've gotta look at this objectively. You really think AZ is on Nas' level? I don't even think its close. Granted AZ made some good music, but Nas has been pretty damn consistent (sans one album). Not to mention he technically outperforms AZ any given day. I'm not even a huge Nas fan, I will probably choose 20 other rappers over him to listen to, but the dude is gifted.
would u choose the rabbit in ur sig?

[Gimmeck]

scribble jam > any temple, mosque or church

[Lishie]

Of course people have opinions, but you've gotta look at this objectively. You really think AZ is on Nas' level? I don't even think its close. Granted AZ made some good music, but Nas has been pretty damn consistent (sans one album). Not to mention he technically outperforms AZ any given day. I'm not even a huge Nas fan, I will probably choose 20 other rappers over him to listen to, but the dude is gifted.


Maybe it's just AZ's technique, or maybe his flow in general, but when AZ spits.. I listen in and want to listen to what he says, AZ is realer than Nas..along with AZ's cleverness, punchline ability.. nothing is hotter than spitting on a Primo beat.
I have more respect for AZ than I do for Nas..
Nas rides on one album only, Illmatic.

Nas is gifted.. but holy shit is he overrated.

[d-boy]

chamillionaires the best mainstream rapper rite now

[.AK.]

chamillionaires the best mainstream rapper rite now
...
DAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

thats like sayin elton jhon is lil jhons brother:rofl:

[Gimmeck]

any Brother Ali fans? that guy could lock lips up

[SpicyBrownRapper]

any Brother Ali fans? that guy could lock lips up

I like Brother Ali.

He's high regarded in the underground world.

[SpicyBrownRapper]

Maybe it's just AZ's technique, or maybe his flow in general, but when AZ spits.. I listen in and want to listen to what he says, AZ is realer than Nas..along with AZ's cleverness, punchline ability.. nothing is hotter than spitting on a Primo beat.
I have more respect for AZ than I do for Nas..
Nas rides on one album only, Illmatic.

Nas is gifted.. but holy shit is he overrated.

Its really hard to overrate a guy when he's released a masterpiece like Illmatic. Its just impossible. Also, like I said, he's been pretty consistant except for Nastradamus. Has Nas been 'fake'? Yes, but that doesn't take away from his talent nor his abilities to spit some of the most technically sounds stuff I've ever heard.

[Gimmeck]

I like Brother Ali.

He's high regarded in the underground world.
yeah without a doubt... hes sick freestyler. even sicker with ink

[Understanding]

I will keep making this thread untill one becomes worthy..


AZ > Nas

Reasonable Doubt > Illmatic

HipHop > Life..

discuss everything about HipHop in this thread.


No way AZ is better than NAS and if u say that then back it up with some ill type line that is just plain irrefutable. Furthermore NAS's catalogue of material is sick. I think he may the one artist who is actually up there with PAC'. Dude has worked with damn near everybody. When I go 2 LIMEWIRE lookin' 4 new NAS joints I'm always seein' NAS and this one NAS and that one. It seems as if though he lives in the studio and is always writin' and workin'. 2 me that's part of bein' a great MC. As far as "Reasonable Doubt" being better than "Illmatic" ... again I disagree. "Reasonable Doubt" was an ill album no doubt but the thing that set "Illmatic" apart was that the sh*t he was sayin' on there still sounds just as ill as anything u hear 2 day. When I hear "Reasonable Doubt" I think back 2 a certain era in hip-hop, a certain year or two if u will. But when I hear "Illmatic" ... personally I think he wrote ageless lyrics and timeless rhymes on that one. Just me though.

[SpicyBrownRapper]

yeah without a doubt... hes sick freestyler. even sicker with ink

I really like him among the Rhymesayers clique... some of the rappers on that label are so suspect even though I give 'em a listen. Slug (of Atmosphere) used to be so fucking phenomenal, and now it seems as though he's not even trying. Soul Positions new drop lacks direction, even though I regard RJD2 to be one of the best producers out there right now. Eyedea... couldn't listen to anything him and DJ Abilities dropped after "First Born".

Check out "GreySkul" from Rhymesayers. The group has one of my favorite lesser known rapper who goes by Onry Ozzborn, who's a dope rapper.

[Gimmeck]

I really like him among the Rhymesayers clique... some of the rappers on that label are so suspect even though I give 'em a listen. Slug (of Atmosphere) used to be so fucking phenomenal, and now it seems as though he's not even trying. Soul Positions new drop lacks direction, even though I regard RJD2 to be one of the best producers out there right now. Eyedea... couldn't listen to anything him and DJ Abilities dropped after "First Born".

Check out "GreySkul" from Rhymesayers. The group has one of my favorite lesser known rapper who goes by Onry Ozzborn, who's a dope rapper.
Lot of people say that about Slug but if you look at any artist no one remains the same. Lifes experiences change everyone. SHIT I cant believe JUice went main what a tragedy.
I agree Dynospectrem is unmatched

[freshmanik_13]

dl incognito> anythin out right now

[aachoudhry]

I will keep making this thread untill one becomes worthy..


AZ > Nas

Reasonable Doubt > Illmatic

HipHop > Life..

discuss everything about HipHop in this thread.


tupac > everyone else


bone thugs > rap now

eternal e. 1999 > anything by g unit

me against the world > your world





the pharcyde
tribe
outkaat


and of course i love al lthat old nas jayz biggie lost boyz too short west coast shit son what

so much more too

[Lishie]

uppppp

[Lishie]

oh god. hahahha

Tupac > everyone else ahahhahahaha..

I thought you were serious for a second.. ahhaaha.. you're a funny guy

[King Ghidra]

I will keep making this thread untill one becomes worthy..


AZ > Nas

Reasonable Doubt > Illmatic

HipHop > Life..

discuss everything about HipHop in this thread.

How dare you :hand:

[Lishie]

How dare you :hand:


I've got my reasons.

[anorexorcist]

Pete Rock > Primo

Cormega > Nature

Brother Ali > J-Live

MC JUICE > this new impostor that the Game signed

Chali 2na > Pras

Big Pun > Fat Joe

Big L > Nas

Immortal Technique > Canibus

Cut Chemist > DJ Nu-Mark

Rakim > all

[vimi]

I will keep making this thread untill one becomes worthy..


AZ > Nas

Reasonable Doubt > Illmatic

HipHop > Life..

discuss everything about HipHop in this thread.
WOrd to that

[vimi]

The best rap artist came out of LONG ISLAND

[Lishie]

Pete Rock > Primo

Cormega > Nature

Brother Ali > J-Live

MC JUICE > this new impostor that the Game signed

Chali 2na > Pras

Big Pun > Fat Joe

Big L > Nas

Immortal Technique > Canibus

Cut Chemist > DJ Nu-Mark

Rakim > all


Pete Rock < Primo

Cormega > Nature

Brother Ali < J-Live

MC JUICE > this new impostor that the Game signed

Chali 2na < Pras

Big Pun > Fat Joe

Big L > Nas

Immortal Technique < Canibus

Cut Chemist > DJ Nu-Mark

Rakim ILL.
but
Common > All.

[vimi]

az got way more Flow then NAz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK5u0sBH9gM

[Lishie]

I like how you think Vimi

[pachaas Paisa]

pachaas paisa > all

[Lishie]

pachaas paisa > all

pachaas paisa = lungi

[pachaas Paisa]

pachaas paisa = lungi

i equal to a piece of cloth?

:scratch:

[vimi]

i equal to a piece of cloth?

:scratch:
Yes you do

[Lishie]

i equal to a piece of cloth?

:scratch:

..that wraps around your butt and penis..yes.

[vimi]

I like how you think Vimi
What you talking about?

[Lishie]

AZ > Nas

[Iron_Lungs]

thoguht this thread was bout hip-hop, where did lungi come from?

AZ >/< Nas
az-creative (do or die, amazin album) nas, was ill @ times. but has fallen off.

Reasonable Doubt >/< Illmatic
Jay-z, is a bitter not a writter. but reasonable, was his best hustle shit. everything is to meh. Illmatic "Rappers I monkey flip 'em with the funky rhythm I be kickin", one of THE, THE best albums of ALL fukin time (trumphs Hova no doubt}

HipHop = like royce da 5'9 goes
" I know my streets, I know my sounds
Y'all know my beats, how I get down
I take my steps, and leaps and bounds
***** it's - HIP HOP! "

[pachaas Paisa]

..that wraps around your butt and penis..yes.


you just want me to wear it so you can have easy access.. :mad: :p

[vimi]

AZ > Nas
Its true tho.... Az fell of tho he aint get no deals

[vimi]

Its true tho.... Az fell of tho he aint get no deals
http://www.pnoxproductions.com/


Get song number 22 and 5

Li

[Lishie]

you just want me to wear it so you can have easy access.. :mad: :p
well, you usually wear the really form fitting ones.. so it curves around your bum nicely.
it's very arousing.


and for easy access.. :gayfight:

[pachaas Paisa]

well, you usually wear the really form fitting ones.. so it curves around your bum nicely.
it's very arousing.


and for easy access.. :gayfight:

you pervv!




























i dont mind :eyebrow:

[Lishie]

you pervv!




























i dont mind :eyebrow:

HIP HOP..
stop lunging this thread.

[vimi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRd12xKZuW8


One on the illest tracks know to HIP HOP

AZ feat Nas - Mo Money, Mo Murder

[pachaas Paisa]

HIP HOP..
stop lunging this thread.

hip hop is for losers, who cares what nas does?

Jayz blows ass

so does kanye west.

Everything about hiphop sucks now. Die die hiphop.

[vimi]

hip hop is for losers, who cares what nas does?

Jayz blows ass

so does kanye west.

Everything about hiphop sucks now. Die die hiphop.
Thats why I dont like new track I just play my old tracks all day long..

[Lishie]

hip hop is for losers, who cares what nas does?

Jayz blows ass

so does kanye west.

Everything about hiphop sucks now. Die die hiphop.

stay true to what's really real, that's what I do..
I love Hiphop, I always say I'm sick of it.. and that's it.. but I can't let it go.
I listen to everything though.

[pachaas Paisa]

stay true to what's really real, that's what I do..
I love Hiphop, I always say I'm sick of it.. and that's it.. but I can't let it go.
I listen to everything though.

forget hiphop you should hear me sing lullabys at night.

[vimi]

This was my JAm back in the day


Mobb Deep ft. Nas - Its Mine

I use to stand in front of the mirror and picature my self pulling up in a ill ass whip while this was playing ........ IT be game over imagine if I did

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpC1_U-Xfq8

[SpicyBrownRapper]

Immortal Techinque is the most worthless rapper to come out in a long time, he appeals to those who for some reason think he's got sound political reasoning when he's worse than the people that made those Loose Change videos. Not to mention he's got a monotonous voice, horrible flow and looks like the wetback who mows my lawns every saturday mornings

[vimi]

Twisted Heat- twista & drag on

One of the illest tracks know to man

[bmw]

damn i stopped listening to hip hop a while back. Tired of *****s telling me the many different ways they can disembowel you and make candy out of it.
I'm more into concious hip hop n reggae. Like Immortal Technique and Sizzla.

[Understanding]

The best rap artist came out of LONG ISLAND

True. Peace 2 the God MC Rakim Allah.

[vimi]

True. Peace 2 the God MC Rakim Allah.
Word to that

[Understanding]

az got way more Flow then NAz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK5u0sBH9gM

No he doesn't dude just rhymes fast ... all the time and people mistake that 4 ill flow in my opinion. Furthermore I would go so far as 2 say that dude's style is fairly one-dimensional. He sounds pretty much the same on all of his joints. If I'm wrong then I'll need 4 someone 2 refer me 2 some AZ joints in which he switches up flows and such so I can judge 4 myself. When I hear AZ on "Life's A B**ch" he pretty much sounds the same now as he did back then. When I listen 2 certain joints by NAS I hear fast flows, medium flows, slow flows and even crazy off beat flows. As a reference point listen 2 this joint by him called "For The Rest of My Life". The beat is so off beat and unorthodox its a wonder that he was even able 2 write 2 it but he mastered that beat. I can't see AZ doin' that.

[vimi]

No he doesn't dude just rhymes fast ... all the time and people mistake that 4 ill flow in my opinion. Furthermore I would go so far as 2 say that dude's style is fairly one-dimensional. He sounds pretty much the same on all of his joints. If I'm wrong then I'll need 4 someone 2 refer me 2 some AZ joints in which he switches up flows and such so I can judge 4 myself. When I hear AZ on "Life's A B**ch" he pretty much sounds the same now as he did back then. When I listen 2 certain joints by NAS I hear fast flows, medium flows, slow flows and even crazy off beat flows. As a reference point listen 2 this joint by him called "For The Rest of My Life". The beat is so off beat and unorthodox its a wonder that he was even able 2 write 2 it but he mastered that beat. I can't see AZ doin' that.
He delivers way better then NAS... It flows and it aint fast...


Az and naz on the same track

Az Delevers his lines way better which means he got better FLOW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRd12xKZuW8

[Understanding]

AZ > Nas

NAS is one of the most complete out here now in my opinion and has been 4 as long as he's been around. I say that b/c he doesn't just talk all that thug bullsh*t that so many other cats talk about cuz' they don't have anything else 2 say. Dude is part thug, part preacher, social commentator. He's deep and u hear all of these aspects in his rhymes. Can the same be said 4 AZ? If so please refer me 2 some songs or verses cuz' I'm like Stevie Wonder ... i can't see it.

"Turnin' nothin' in2 somethin' is God's work
And u get nothin' without struggle and hard work
War is neccessary 2 my ni**as' in chains
From Greene 2 Sing-Sing
I'm wantin' y'all 2 know 1 thing
The hardest thing is 2 forgive and God does
Even if u murdered or robbed yeah its wrong but God Loves
Take one step towards Him he'll take two towards u
Even when else all fails God supports u."

-DOO RAGS-

"I know u probably heard the noise
Preachers touchin' on altar boys
Sodomizin', not Realizin' God is watchin' be4 the Lord
How can they do the devils' work?
A man give another man head in Church
Hell it hurts just 2 fathom the thought
Makes me wanna flee the earth."

-IF HEAVEN WAS A MILE AWAY-

"I know a girl her boyfriend was a fugitive
She was intuitive stuck on some stupid sh*t
She called the cops b/c she hated his mother
Now he's away doin' numbers and now she's gay w/ a lover.
How many ni**as' gonna die this summer
I pump life thru my music b/c life is a wonder
There's an officer is a squad car he's a prostitute serial killer its odd huh?
Cuz' he's the same cop in church with his wife
He's molestin' their son and she ignores it at night."

-REASONS-

In closing ... AZ? Better than NAS? pleeeease :rolleyes: . I'm still waitin' 4 somebody 2 show me somethin' ... anything.

[Understanding]

He delivers way better then NAS... It flows and it aint fast...


Az and naz on the same track

Az Delevers his lines way better which means he got better FLOW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRd12xKZuW8

O.k bro'. Guess we'll just have 2 respectfully disagree on that one.

[vimi]

NAS is one of the most complete out here now in my opinion and has been 4 as long as he's been around. I say that b/c he doesn't just talk all that thug bullsh*t that so many other cats talk about cuz' they don't have anything else 2 say. Dude is part thug, part preacher, social commentator. He's deep and u hear all of these aspects in his rhymes. Can the same be said 4 AZ? If so please refer me 2 some songs or verses cuz' I'm like Stevie Wonder ... i can't see it.

"Turnin' nothin' in2 somethin' is God's work
And u get nothin' without struggle and hard work
War is neccessary 2 my ni**as' in chains
From Greene 2 Sing-Sing
I'm wantin' y'all 2 know 1 thing
The hardest thing is 2 forgive and God does
Even if u murdered or robbed yeah its wrong but God Loves
Take one step towards Him he'll take two towards u
Even when else all fails God supports u."

-DOO RAGS-

"I know u probably heard the noise
Preachers touchin' on altar boys
Sodomizin', not Realizin' God is watchin' be4 the Lord
How can they do the devils' work?
A man give another man head in Church
Hell it hurts just 2 fathom the thought
Makes me wanna flee the earth."

-IF HEAVEN WAS A MILE AWAY-

"I know a girl her boyfriend was a fugitive
She was intuitive stuck on some stupid sh*t
She called the cops b/c she hated his mother
Now he's away doin' numbers and now she's gay w/ a lover.
How many ni**as' gonna die this summer
I pump life thru my music b/c life is a wonder
There's an officer is a squad car he's a prostitute serial killer its odd huh?
Cuz' he's the same cop in church with his wife
He's molestin' their son and she ignores it at night."

-REASONS-

In closing ... AZ? Better than NAS? pleeeease :rolleyes: . I'm still waitin' 4 somebody 2 show me somethin' ... anything.
U probelly Suport NAS cause he got the whole muslim this going on... BUT the FACT is that AZ still got more flow then NAS

[Lishie]

Immortal Techinque is the most worthless rapper to come out in a long time, he appeals to those who for some reason think he's got sound political reasoning when he's worse than the people that made those Loose Change videos. Not to mention he's got a monotonous voice, horrible flow and looks like the wetback who mows my lawns every saturday mornings


GOD BLESS YOU FOR THAT.

[R.J]

This is all for now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6ln80RKryo

:salut:

[Understanding]

U probelly Suport NAS cause he got the whole muslim this going on... BUT the FACT is that AZ still got more flow then NAS

Dude not even and 4 what its worth ... I'm a Christian. I just appreciate hip-hop artists that use their gift 2 talk about more than Bentleys, Platinum, H-Class Diamonds, "Da' Hood" and other meaningless, stereotypical bullsh*t. Anybody can talk about that and we see that everyday on MTV/BET. The sh*t is sickening. As far as AZ's flow I won't even debate that. As a matter of fact I'll give u that cuz' its not as important 2 me as subject matter and material. Overall in terms of sheer volume of material as well as topics touched and on and subject matter AZ can't see NAS with a telescope and bi-focal lenses. Not even close.

"The Chinamen built the railroads
The "Indians" saved the Pilgrims
And in return the Pilgrims killed them
U call this "Thanksgiving"?
I call your holiday "Hell Day"
Cuz' I'm from poverty neglected by the wealthy."

Come on now ... stop. What's AZ talkin' about these days :rolleyes: ? NAS = one of the G.O.A.T emcees.

[manslorta]

lol

[Hydro786]

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuur on fuckin CRACK dude :p

[Lishie]

ahhhh

botiii kebobbb

[krazy_desi187]

i agree with 'understanding' somewhat .. nas does touch many topcis that az doesnt plus i like the uniqueness on some of nas's songs ie. one mic, rewind, i gave u power .. plus there aint many who could ever fuck with ether .. n how many hip hop artists do u know who've released anythin near illmatic .. first album n 18 yrs old.. that aint talent thats a gift . dont get me wrong i luv AZ .. have all his albums, pop in decade.. that shit aint skipable at all...

[donmega]

Az is better than nas??? maybe in a world where whoopi goldberg is hotter than beyonce

[thebrownreason]

I will keep making this thread untill one becomes worthy..


AZ > Nas

Reasonable Doubt > Illmatic

HipHop > Life..

discuss everything about HipHop in this thread.

I love you.

[thebrownreason]

No he doesn't dude just rhymes fast ... all the time and people mistake that 4 ill flow in my opinion. Furthermore I would go so far as 2 say that dude's style is fairly one-dimensional. He sounds pretty much the same on all of his joints. If I'm wrong then I'll need 4 someone 2 refer me 2 some AZ joints in which he switches up flows and such so I can judge 4 myself. When I hear AZ on "Life's A B**ch" he pretty much sounds the same now as he did back then. When I listen 2 certain joints by NAS I hear fast flows, medium flows, slow flows and even crazy off beat flows. As a reference point listen 2 this joint by him called "For The Rest of My Life". The beat is so off beat and unorthodox its a wonder that he was even able 2 write 2 it but he mastered that beat. I can't see AZ doin' that.

listen to az - the format

[Understanding]

i agree with 'understanding' somewhat .. nas does touch many topcis that az doesnt plus i like the uniqueness on some of nas's songs ie. one mic, rewind, i gave u power .. plus there aint many who could ever fuck with ether .. n how many hip hop artists do u know who've released anythin near illmatic .. first album n 18 yrs old.. that aint talent thats a gift . dont get me wrong i luv AZ .. have all his albums, pop in decade.. that shit aint skipable at all...

I'm sayin' man. I'm gonna go check out "The Format" as recommended but I think even without "Illmatic" I still can't see many AZ joints touchin' joints like "One Mic" and "Rewind". "Rewind" 4 me personally is craaazay. Dude started at the end of the story and worked his way back 2 the beginning all in one verse. Come on now. Plus have y'all heard this mixtape joint he did on Dirty Harry's joint called "Death Anniversary"? Talk about takin' your mind elsewhere on some hypothetical sh*t? :no: ... damn.

"What if I told u that AZ didn't exist?
And I put him there n' played it like a ventriloquist.
Cuz' ni**as' spit fake sh*t and y'all respect it,
But when I spit that real sh*t y'all won't buy the record.
What if me and the rapper "Homey" was really cool?
And we used that whole thing as a media tool.
Would u say I was a sucka' or say I was saavy
If I told u motherf**kers that me and "K" wasn't married?
What if Jungle wrote my sh*t and I'm really illiterate?
And the whole NAS catalogue was just an experiment?
What if I really died when Ill Will got shot?
And this is Will rhymin' now while NAS is chillin' with Pac.
What if I did all the advertisments thrown my way?
And I boned every chick that would throw me some play?
I'd have 2 load another AK cuz' ni**as'd be jealous
But we real ... like those Brazil Favelas"

All I have 2 say is when his new album "HIP-HOP IS DEAD" comes out ... its a wrap. I heard he has a joint on there with him and The Game which is sooooo sick he said he just might have 2 make that his first single. NAS b**ches ... one.

[Understanding]

Az is better than nas??? maybe in a world where whoopi goldberg is hotter than beyonce

Lol! :werd:.

[Lishie]

i agree with 'understanding' somewhat .. nas does touch many topcis that az doesnt plus i like the uniqueness on some of nas's songs ie. one mic, rewind, i gave u power .. plus there aint many who could ever fuck with ether .. n how many hip hop artists do u know who've released anythin near illmatic .. first album n 18 yrs old.. that aint talent thats a gift . dont get me wrong i luv AZ .. have all his albums, pop in decade.. that shit aint skipable at all...


Jas, we've been friends for a long time.. and you usually never say stupid shit..
but you're stupid. you stupid shit.

lol

[Lishie]

I love you.


ha, word..
finally someone who sees Hiphop like I do..

thebrownreason, let's be friends. :hug:

[vimi]

Dude not even and 4 what its worth ... I'm a Christian. I just appreciate hip-hop artists that use their gift 2 talk about more than Bentleys, Platinum, H-Class Diamonds, "Da' Hood" and other meaningless, stereotypical bullsh*t. Anybody can talk about that and we see that everyday on MTV/BET. The sh*t is sickening. As far as AZ's flow I won't even debate that. As a matter of fact I'll give u that cuz' its not as important 2 me as subject matter and material. Overall in terms of sheer volume of material as well as topics touched and on and subject matter AZ can't see NAS with a telescope and bi-focal lenses. Not even close.

"The Chinamen built the railroads
The "Indians" saved the Pilgrims
And in return the Pilgrims killed them
U call this "Thanksgiving"?
I call your holiday "Hell Day"
Cuz' I'm from poverty neglected by the wealthy."

Come on now ... stop. What's AZ talkin' about these days :rolleyes: ? NAS = one of the G.O.A.T emcees.
Well said, I guss you rite in you own way..... BUT it still dont change the FACT that AZ got more FLOW.

[Understanding]

Well said, I guss you rite in you own way..... BUT it still dont change the FACT that AZ got more FLOW.

I hear u. I'm gonna have 2 go and check 4 more AZ material 4 real.

[vimi]

I hear u. I'm gonna have 2 go and check 4 more AZ material 4 real.
Nas got a important message in his music, that I agree with But Az got way more Flow... Also Nas only blew up cause of AZ.. When Nas started getting famous the only good track he HAD was with Az.... Play a Az track with nas in it, you cant front on it.. Its some of the best tracks Az or Nas put out till this day......

[NeceSsary]

Good point *****s.

Fox Brown > Lil Kim.

Pac and Big = Same level

[poetichustla]

pac>big


in-every-way.

[vimi]

pac>big


in-every-way.
hell no......

pac was a street poetic...... Biggy was just a hood as ni88a who could flow...... I think you cant even compare the 2

[krazy_desi187]

Jas, we've been friends for a long time.. and you usually never say stupid shit..
but you're stupid. you stupid shit.

lol

LOL u know what i was expectin a response like this from u :p .. lol .. omgish BFF <3 .. :dance3: .. jus cuz i dont agree wit baljito?! :( .. but whatchamacallit .. nas is crazy yo .. dont h8 the few top mc's in the game.. if u wanna h8, h8 dudes who sing laffy taffy or lean wit it rock wit it ..

[Lishie]

pac>big


in-every-way.


wow, what the fuck are you on..
:rofl:

[Lishie]

LOL u know what i was expectin a response like this from u :p .. lol .. omgish BFF <3 .. :dance3: .. jus cuz i dont agree wit baljito?! :( .. but whatchamacallit .. nas is crazy yo .. dont h8 the few top mc's in the game.. if u wanna h8, h8 dudes who sing laffy taffy or lean wit it rock wit it ..


Jas, I've done a lot of listening, and a lot of hearing.. and my final say is AZ > Nas.

Nas is ill, but AZ is illler.

[Lishie]

Dead Prez is DOOOOOOOOPE

[Lishie]

upp upp

[suhailio]

My fave:

2pac
Eminem
Nas
DMX
Mobb Deep

I don't like:

50 Cent
Gay-zee
Jarule

[Lishie]

Jay-Z is goat

[Gimmeck]

lol
yo you migth wanna resize your sig before it gets banned

[Lishie]

upp

[thebrownreason]

wow, what the fuck are you on..
:rofl:


i was thinkin the same ....

btw... :wavey:

[Understanding]

Nas got a important message in his music, that I agree with But Az got way more Flow... Also Nas only blew up cause of AZ.. When Nas started getting famous the only good track he HAD was with Az.... Play a Az track with nas in it, you cant front on it.. Its some of the best tracks Az or Nas put out till this day......

NAS blew up b/c of AZ :rolleyes: ? How is that possible when NAS put AZ on ... not the other way around. AZ was NAS's only guest MC on ILLMATIC and thats the classic "Life's A Bi**h". It was b/c of AZ's performance on that track that he got his solo deal and then NAS was on "Mo' Money, Mo' Murder". Then they did "The Firm" album with Foxy, but after AZ's debut solo album dude fell off ... hard. Don't get me wrong I could give a sh*t about record sales but after his debut joint it seemed like people stopped checkin' 4 him in a major way. And I hear what u're sayin' about AZ havin' more flow but when I'm rating whether or not I think an MC is great I'm not factorin' his flow in2 the equation. I used 2 rhyme and do shows all over and people used 2 come up 2 me all the time complimenting my flow [which by the way I think is sick] but that meant nothing compared 2 some1 saying "Yo ... what u were sayin' was deep and true." Flow is over-rated ... but a person sayin' sh*t that's timely, real and relevant will ALWAYS get more dap. I was listenin' 2 this NAS joint and he said he was:

"Angry like Saddam Hussein
Lookin' @ his children's burnt remains ..."

Come on now ... :hand: AZ can't f**k with NAS. Also, is dude even signed currently? Seems like over the last few years or so he's just been strugglin' 2 get people 2 pay attention and that's another thing I look @. I believe that "Your Gift Will Make Room 4u". In other words I think that if u're really, really THAT ill ... cream will always rise 2 the top. Look @ RAKIM. He hasn't done many albums over the years but the ones that he did STILL have people dissecting his lyrics and marveling at not only what he said but how he said what he said and people still do the same with ILLMATIC as well as various other NAS tracks. I think that overall NAS's career has been as successful as its been [even with some of his misteps and corniness mixed in] is b/c dude is one of the illest and realest 2 ever touch a mic. Just my opinion though. Easy.

[vimi]

NAS blew up b/c of AZ :rolleyes: ? How is that possible when NAS put AZ on ... not the other way around. AZ was NAS's only guest MC on ILLMATIC and thats the classic "Life's A Bi**h". It was b/c of AZ's performance on that track that he got his solo deal and then NAS was on "Mo' Money, Mo' Murder". Then they did "The Firm" album with Foxy, but after AZ's debut solo album dude fell off ... hard. Don't get me wrong I could give a sh*t about record sales but after his debut joint it seemed like people stopped checkin' 4 him in a major way. And I hear what u're sayin' about AZ havin' more flow but when I'm rating whether or not I think an MC is great I'm not factorin' his flow in2 the equation. I used 2 rhyme and do shows all over and people used 2 come up 2 me all the time complimenting my flow [which by the way I think is sick] but that meant nothing compared 2 some1 saying "Yo ... what u were sayin' was deep and true." Flow is over-rated ... but a person sayin' sh*t that's timely, real and relevant will ALWAYS get more dap. I was listenin' 2 this NAS joint and he said he was:

"Angry like Saddam Hussein
Lookin' @ his children's burnt remains ..."

Come on now ... :hand: AZ can't f**k with NAS. Also, is dude even signed currently? Seems like over the last few years or so he's just been strugglin' 2 get people 2 pay attention and that's another thing I look @. I believe that "Your Gift Will Make Room 4u". In other words I think that if u're really, really THAT ill ... cream will always rise 2 the top. Look @ RAKIM. He hasn't done many albums over the years but the ones that he did STILL have people dissecting his lyrics and marveling at not only what he said but how he said what he said and people still do the same with ILLMATIC as well as various other NAS tracks. I think that overall NAS's career has been as successful as its been [even with some of his misteps and corniness mixed in] is b/c dude is one of the illest and realest 2 ever touch a mic. Just my opinion though. Easy.
Yo at the time the only good tracks NAs had was with Az.... ans yes Nas did put Az on but he used him ..... I agree with what you saying Nas a better Mc BUT Az got way more Flow.

[Lishie]

i was thinkin the same ....

btw... :wavey:


I love how you think.

what's goin' ooooon.. :wave:

[Lishie]

reeelaxxxx go dooo it.. when you wana go dooo it

[Y a N k E e]

lil wayne
rick ross
ti

i liked ray cashs cd too

[Lishie]

wack

[krazy_desi187]

wack

wackty wacky wack?

[illomatic]

Jay-Z is goat
http://www-sop.inria.fr/meije/personnel/Andrea.Valente/img/wallpapers/Guillotine.jpg

[illomatic]

pac>big


in-every-way.
yes. sir.

but people who're gonna hate
i have this for them


pac = real talk music

biggie = party and hustle music

[Lishie]

wackty wacky wack?


tell me about the babu you won at the fair!

[Lishie]

http://www-sop.inria.fr/meije/personnel/Andrea.Valente/img/wallpapers/Guillotine.jpg
:stupid:

[krazy_desi187]

tell me about the babu you won at the fair!

its a rotty :D .. soo gangsta i feels :P .. lol .. but yea .. u know those water gun games.. where u shoot at the target n sumthin goes up n rings the bell .. won that twice in a row.. there was a guy wit hs gf there, he kinda got chocked he didnt win anythin hehe

[Lishie]

hahaha Jas you badass

[krazy_desi187]

hahaha Jas you badass

LOL oh man .. n u know what else happend.. me n my bro were goin around on rides n shit .. n like jus fuck wilin' out n shit .. ju screamin from the top of our lungs eh .. n met these 2 white guys who also were doin the sme shit .. n we kept seeing them on every ride we was on n we'd like see who could scream the loudest n shit lol .. my throat hurts but fuckin we should them :cool: lol

[Lishie]

wow su, that's homo

:p

[illomatic]

LOL oh man .. n u know what else happend.. me n my bro were goin around on rides n shit .. n like jus fuck wilin' out n shit .. ju screamin from the top of our lungs eh .. n met these 2 white guys who also were doin the sme shit .. n we kept seeing them on every ride we was on n we'd like see who could scream the loudest n shit lol .. my throat hurts but fuckin we should them :cool: lol
showed them*

[krazy_desi187]

showed them*

oops.. typo..got a little too excited. :\

[krazy_desi187]

wow su, that's homo

:p

shadup u.

[Lishie]

showed them*


it's okay, he's my cousin

[Lishie]

shadup u.
ulti

[krazy_desi187]

it's okay, he's my cousin

ROFLfkjdsaklfdjLMAOfdjfhajdfOMFGhjfdhafhdsaBRBjfkd jsajfLOL!!!

[Lishie]

uppp lol

[Lishie]

uppppp

[Hydro786]

what.....the FUCK?
whats going ON here?

az> nas?
gay-z > nas?

FOOLISHNESS

as for pac> big...I dont agree but many people do so whatever. but the rest of that garbage is just pure rubbish

btw LOOSE CHANGE (the documentary) was the shit. You n*ggas is stupid

[Understanding]

"I first met NAS @ Power House Studios when he was a teenager. But the first thing I heard about NAS the emcee was thru the buzz on the streets. 'Yo NAS is dope! He's wildin'! He's sayin' everything!' Then ... I went out and got ILLMATIC. After the first three joints passed I was like 'Ahhhhhh'. He kind of made me feel normal. For somebody to come out and spit fire and for people to look at him ... it made me feel regular. When NAS came out he started solidifying it for lyricists. Nevermind what other people were doing ... DO YOU. He did a lot for my career. He may not know that ... but he did a lot for my career."

-God Emcee RAKIM ALLAH-


I can't wait 2 hear the NAS-RAKIM collabo which should be on his new album. AZ who? Pleeeaaase :hand:.

[Understanding]

yes. sir.

but people who're gonna hate
i have this for them


pac = real talk music

biggie = party and hustle music

:werd:

[vimi]

If you trying to compare Big & pac You a dumm ass

[Understanding]

If you trying to compare Big & pac You a dumm ass

I may be wrong but I think the point he's tryin' 2 make is that there really is no comparison. One is known for mostly one type of hip-hop and the other is mostly known 4 another type. I think most would agree on that.

[vimi]

I may be wrong but I think the point he's tryin' 2 make is that there really is no comparison. One is known for mostly one type of hip-hop and the other is mostly known 4 another type. I think most would agree on that.
Word up

[bmw]

sima sima, who got the keys to my bimma?

[Lishie]

what.....the FUCK?
whats going ON here?

az> nas?
gay-z > nas?

FOOLISHNESS

as for pac> big...I dont agree but many people do so whatever. but the rest of that garbage is just pure rubbish

btw LOOSE CHANGE (the documentary) was the shit. You n*ggas is stupid


I just threw up in my mouth, you have no clue young one.

[Lishie]

sima sima, who got the keys to my bimma?
something something, gals dem sugar.

[kohli_sahib]

something something, gals dem sugar.

you're an ass.

seriously.

[Lishie]

you're an ass.

seriously.

you anal cavity, if anyone is an ass.. it's you.. where the tut are you

[krazy_desi187]

I just threw up in my mouth, you have no clue young one.

u spit it out . or swallow it back in again?! .. jus curious :sarb:

[Lishie]

u spit it out . or swallow it back in again?! .. jus curious :sarb:


all over your head jasu
your bald head

[Understanding]

Two God Emcees @ the VMA's discussing their Lists of Their Top 5 Emcees. That look on NAS's face is sayin': "AZ ... better than me? Yeah right!!! :hahano: ."

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d166/Understanding_/hovandnas.jpg

[Sphinx7]

"I first met NAS @ Power House Studios when he was a teenager. But the first thing I heard about NAS the emcee was thru the buzz on the streets. 'Yo NAS is dope! He's wildin'! He's sayin' everything!' Then ... I went out and got ILLMATIC. After the first three joints passed I was like 'Ahhhhhh'. He kind of made me feel normal. For somebody to come out and spit fire and for people to look at him ... it made me feel regular. When NAS came out he started solidifying it for lyricists. Nevermind what other people were doing ... DO YOU. He did a lot for my career. He may not know that ... but he did a lot for my career."

-God Emcee RAKIM ALLAH-


I can't wait 2 hear the NAS-RAKIM collabo which should be on his new album. AZ who? Pleeeaaase :hand:.


peace lord, i feel the same with you on that. Rakim. Rakim is the one of the illest emcees in the early days of hiphop.

I never met Nas cuz Nas never be out in the streets. Nas goes thru different phazes, thats y his albums and styles are different.(and bitin album covers).. but Illmatic is a hot LP, especially at the time it came out. I used to cee AZ all the time in Mecca 7th ave. So as far as street creditbility AZ is on the concrete. So is Cormega, he is major.

[Gimmeck]

Two God Emcees @ the VMA's discussing their Lists of Their Top 5 Emcees. That look on NAS's face is sayin': "AZ ... better than me? Yeah right!!! :hahano: ."

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d166/Understanding_/hovandnas.jpg
"God Emcees" right :rolleyes:
you need to visit scribble jam

[Understanding]

peace lord, i feel the same with you on that. Rakim. Rakim is the one of the illest emcees in the early days of hiphop.

I never met Nas cuz Nas never be out in the streets. Nas goes thru different phazes, thats y his albums and styles are different.(and bitin album covers).. but Illmatic is a hot LP, especially at the time it came out. I used to cee AZ all the time in Mecca 7th ave. So as far as street creditbility AZ is on the concrete. So is Cormega, he is major.

No doubt i"ve heard about Cormega and AZ's street cred. But like u said there was period or phase when NAS always in the streets and then there was a period when he wasn't and he basically grew out of that. I guess that's kinda' why he did that joint "2nd Childhood" referring 2 cats in their thirties still in the "streets". Even in the Book of Ecclesiastes it notes that there is a proper time and place 4 everything. As far as RAKIM's comments about NAS ... when I read them I was like "WHOA". Rakim says very, very little so when he DOES say something ... its usually worthwhile. For HIM of all people 2 make comments like that about NAS ... 2 me that's major.

[Understanding]

"God Emcees" right :rolleyes:
you need to visit scribble jam

Exactly ... GOD Emcees. As in Emcees who changed the game and influenced so many other younger cats comin' up under them and even their own peers. U read RAKIM's comments. In my opinion HIS opinion is one of those that really matters. I trust and respect that man's opinion. As far as "Scribble Jam" ... I'm sure its a lot of young, hungry, ill cats there but overall though what are they doing 4 hip-hop? If very few people hear them or even know they exist then it means nothing and that's just me. Being ill but only being known by a few thousand individuals 2 me is somewhat meaningless but if u're nice and well-known and u take the opportunity 2 say deep sh*t that even the masses can appreciate and build off of and u do that consistently for like 10, 12, 14 years then yup ... GOD Emcee.

[vimi]

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d166/Understanding_/hovandnas.jpg


wtf they drinking

[Understanding]

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d166/Understanding_/hovandnas.jpg


wtf they drinking

Either something not that well-known and mad expensive or some good old fashioned Alize.

[vimi]

Either something not that well-known and mad expensive or some good old fashioned Alize.
I bet its cheap juice

[Understanding]

I will keep making this thread untill one becomes worthy..


AZ > Nas

Reasonable Doubt > Illmatic

HipHop > Life..

discuss everything about HipHop in this thread.

THE FORMAT (www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/9879)

[Understanding]

I can't wait :dance3: !!! However ... I guess I have no choice :neutral:.

HIP HOP IS DEAD ... (www.mtv.com/news/articles/1542740/10092006/nas.jhtml?headlines=true)

[Understanding]

Within the last 72 hrs I've gotten ahold of the title track from Jay-Z's new album "KINGDOM COME" ... the title track from Nas's album "HIP-HOP IS DEAD" [produced by Will. I. Am ... yes as 'Black Eyed Peas'] and "WHY THEY HATE THE GAME" a nine minute and twenty-three second long workout produced by Just_Blaze feat NAS plus the songstress from Floetry doing the vocals. All songs HOT!!! F**k the summertime. This Fall and Winter are gonna make the summer seem wack.

p.s ... the song with The Game feat. NAS is one of my songs of the year thus far. Classic material as far as I'm concerned. I can't wait 2 hear the collabo they did on NAS's album produced by Dr. Dre.

[bmw]

its wack how some of you people are soo into hip hop. Its not a religion penchods so stop pretending like it is one.

[Understanding]

its wack how some of you people are soo into hip hop. Its not a religion penchods so stop pretending like it is one.

Nope. What's wack is condescending attitudes :neutral:. People can't be excited about the type of music they like and an artist they like coming out with new material :ugh:? I've seen people post here with just as much excitement about a car, a movie or a Bollywood actor or actress :rolleyes: . And personally I disagree with the religion reference. I've yet 2 see some1 here get banned 4 speaking with anticipation about how much they're looking 4ward 2 a particular hip-hop album. I've never seen anyone get banned b/c they debated who they felt was the better lyricist. I have however seen tons of people get banned 4 trying 2 shove their religion down other people's throats and 4 making unneccessarily derogatory comments about another person's beliefs. Anyway don't hate ... let people be excited. Its simple, harmless expression.

[King Ghidra]

its wack how some of you people are soo into hip hop. Its not a religion penchods so stop pretending like it is one.

Hip hop is a lifestyle...

[Iron_Lungs]

Reasonable Doubt > Illmatic


thats MADDD WRONG

ILLMATIC > R.D

illmatic, 10 tracks of the greatest rookie album to drop. with "the Gensis" the intro to this class!c album, we hear nas rappin in "live @ the bbq" with Main source, off breakin atoms.
"Street's disciple, my raps are trifle
I shoot slugs from my brain just like a rifle
Stampede the stage, I leave the microphone split
Play Mr. Tuffy while I'm on some Pretty Tone shit"

take it to NewYork State of Mind. Premo masterminded that beat. nas jus killed it. he shows jus how the mean streets of ny are
"Rappers I monkey flip 'em with the funky rhythm I be kickin
Musician, inflictin composition
of pain I'm like Scarface sniffin cocaine
Holdin a M-16, see with the pen I'm extreme, now
Bulletholes left in my peepholes
I'm suited up in street clothes
Hand me a nine and I'll defeat foes
Y'all know my steelo with or without the airplay
I keep some E&J, sittin bent up in the stairway
Or either on the corner bettin Grants with the celo champs
Laughin at baseheads, tryin to sell some broken amps
G-Packs get off quick, forever *****z talk shit
Remeniscing about the last time the Task Force flipped
*****z be runnin through the block shootin
Time to start the revolution, catch a body head for Houston
Once they caught us off guard, the Mac-10 was in the grass and
I ran like a cheetah with thoughts of an assassin
Pick the Mac up, told brothers, "Back up," the Mac spit"


too lazy to go on, but illmatic > reasonable. 22's & dead press. r wiked joints though

[Iron_Lungs]

like KRS 1 said

"You are not doing hip-hop
You ARE hip-hop"