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khanbaba_
August 13th, 2006, 02:22 PM
Hazrat Ameer Muawiya r.a was katab-e-wahi (who use to write the Quran while Prophet s.a.w would recite it to Him)


Here is an interesting incident that happened when he was the ruler of the Muslims.


Today Muslims need leaders like him.

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i72/khanbaba21/11.jpg

gabroo_shakeen
August 13th, 2006, 02:23 PM
and???

khanbaba_
August 13th, 2006, 02:25 PM
and???
Please if you dont have anything to say, then stay quiet.

Le_Gendarme
August 13th, 2006, 02:26 PM
1.Hadhrat Ameer Muawiya (Radhiallaahu anhu) is also included in all the Qur'anic verses which illustrate the virtue of the Sahabe Karaam.
2. He is also included in all the statements of Nabi (Sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) concerning the Sahaba.
3. He was among those fortunate ones who wrote the Qur'an Kareem with their own hands.
4. He was at the fortunate group who participated in Jihaad by the side of Nabi (Sallallaahu alayhi wasallam).
5. He was of those propitious person Ali ( Radhiallahu anhu )ties he heard the Qur'an from the blessed tongue of Nabi (Sallallaahu alayhi wasallam).
6. He was also amongst those who enjoyed the good fortune of performing salaat behind Nabi (Sallallaahu alayhi wasallam).
7. He was of those who directly narrated the words of Nabi (Sallallaahu alayhi wasallam).
8. He had the great fortune of actually seeing Nabi (Sallallaahu alayhi wasallam).
9. Of those people before when Nabi (Sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) ate food was Hadhrat Ameer Muawiya (Radhiallaahu anhu).
10. He was one to see Nabi (Sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) walking before him (i. e. in the flesh).
11. Hadhrat Jibraeel conveyed Salaams to him (Al Bidaya wan Nihaya).
12 Hadhrat Jibraeel advised that Hadhrat Muawiya (Radhiallaahu anhu) be treated well (Al Bidaya wan Nihaya).
13. Allaah had declared him trustworthy

gabroo_shakeen
August 13th, 2006, 02:26 PM
Please if you dont have anything to say, then stay quiet.
I'll say something: Whats the point of this thread?

Le_Gendarme
August 13th, 2006, 02:26 PM
Please if you dont have anything to say, then stay quiet. he cannot read urdu, he is not even Muslim.

NYzNiCCa
August 13th, 2006, 02:27 PM
he cannot read urdu, he is not even Muslim.

hes a shodai gabroo.

Ash_s2002
August 13th, 2006, 02:29 PM
:p :p :p

khanbaba_
August 13th, 2006, 02:30 PM
:p :p :p
Another Shia whose heart is filled with the hatred for Sahabas.

Ash_s2002
August 13th, 2006, 02:31 PM
Another Shia whose heart is filled with the hatred for Sahabas.
nopes not filled with hatred for sahabas...just the hypocrites...long be the sahabas name praised

khanbaba_
August 13th, 2006, 02:32 PM
Prophet s.a.w said that among my Ummah who ever will lead the first Naval war, Jannat (paradise) is wajib on all of them. And Hazrat Ameer Muawiya r.a. was the leader of that first Naval fleet of Muslims (during the Khilafat of Hazrat Usman r.a.)

gabroo_shakeen
August 13th, 2006, 02:32 PM
hes a shodai gabroo.
Lol, im a proper brat.

Spiky
August 13th, 2006, 02:32 PM
and???


I second that...

and???

gabroo_shakeen
August 13th, 2006, 02:33 PM
he cannot read urdu, he is not even Muslim.
I care because?

Space-Cowboy
August 13th, 2006, 02:33 PM
Care to fill in people who can't speak/write Urdu?

Le_Gendarme
August 13th, 2006, 02:34 PM
Hadhrat Auf bin Maali ( Radhiallahu anhu ) was once having his afternoon nap in the Masjid when he beheld in a dream the voice of a lion coming from Allaah Ta'ala. It said to him "Go and give Muawiya (Radhiallaahu anhu) good news at him being a dweller of Jannah. "

khanbaba_
August 13th, 2006, 02:35 PM
nopes not filled with hatred for sahabas...just the hypocrites...long be the sahabas name praised

According to Quran and Prophet s.a.w all Sahabas are trustworthy.
Allah says He is happy with them and they are happy with me (no exception)
We dont pick and chose like Shias.

You Shias are the munafiqs.

Le_Gendarme
August 13th, 2006, 02:35 PM
shia's = hypocrites

khanbaba_
August 13th, 2006, 02:36 PM
Can you translate for cowboy.

Ash_s2002
August 13th, 2006, 02:37 PM
According to Quran and Prophet s.a.w all Sahabas are trustworthy.
Allah says He is happy with them and they are happy with me (no exception)
We dont pick and chose like Shias.

You Shias are the munafiqs.
well ive already tried to talk with you on thsi issue....u never listen to others...instead hit out with stuff ....but dont lsiten to replies....on this issue i have given you many examples...
you take care and i hope one day you will find the truth

Ash_s2002
August 13th, 2006, 02:38 PM
shia's = hypocrites
lol...why?

khanbaba_
August 13th, 2006, 02:38 PM
well ive already tried to talk with you on thsi issue....u never listen to others...instead hit out with stuff ....but dont lsiten to replies....on this issue i have given you many examples...
you take care and i hope one day you will find the truth

When ALLAH is happy with all the Sahabas, we dont need your examples.

NYzNiCCa
August 13th, 2006, 02:40 PM
When ALLAH is happy with all the Sahabas, we dont need your examples.

who is he to question Allah (swt). :no:

Le_Gendarme
August 13th, 2006, 02:40 PM
Can you translate for cowboy. i have to go for a bit, ill come back later and translate !

Ash_s2002
August 13th, 2006, 02:40 PM
When ALLAH is happy with all the Sahabas, we dont need your examples.
a man...sahabi's are judged by their actions....if good then it pleases allah...if not then u make ur own mind up

Ash_s2002
August 13th, 2006, 02:41 PM
who is he to question Allah (swt). :no:
when did i question allah ?....never did....

Le_Gendarme
August 13th, 2006, 02:41 PM
a man...sahabi's are judged by their actions....if good then it pleases allah...if not then u make ur own mind up :rofl: Dont you get it Allah swt already stated in the Quran !!!!

khanbaba_
August 13th, 2006, 02:42 PM
a man...sahabi's are judged by their actions....if good then it pleases allah...if not then u make ur own mind up
ALLAH says in Quran he is happy with all Sahabas and he has forgiven their past and furute sins. Now you want to aruge with ALLAH?

notoriou$punjabi
August 13th, 2006, 02:42 PM
Hadhrat Auf bin Maali ( Radhiallahu anhu ) was once having his afternoon nap in the Masjid when he beheld in a dream the voice of a lion coming from Allaah Ta'ala. It said to him "Go and give Muawiya (Radhiallaahu anhu) good news at him being a dweller of Jannah. "
the fuck is Paindabad ?

Zindabaad foo

Le_Gendarme
August 13th, 2006, 02:42 PM
ALLAH says in Quran he is happy with all Sahabas and he has forgiven their past and furute sins. Now you want to aruge with ALLAH? I guess he does !

Le_Gendarme
August 13th, 2006, 02:43 PM
the fuck is Paindabad ?

Zindabaad foo go back to your cave !

khanbaba_
August 13th, 2006, 02:43 PM
who is he to question Allah (swt). :no:
Yup, you are right.
They have no right to point fingers on Sahabas and curse them.

Ash_s2002
August 13th, 2006, 02:44 PM
:rofl: Dont you get it Allah already stated in the Quran !!!!
i do get it .....its not like pick and choose......but there were those even in those days who were innit for themselves :neutral:


man I cant be bothered arguin with you people over this last time i did...the thread went to 300 pages or something..and u still didnt listen....just kept ramming your point down the throat...
you people take care

let us be raised as followers of the ahle bayt on the day of judgement and you with the sahabis..

allah hafiz

notoriou$punjabi
August 13th, 2006, 02:44 PM
go back to your cave !
not till they build a landing strip in Peshawar

Le_Gendarme
August 13th, 2006, 02:45 PM
i do get it .....its not like pick and choose......but there were those even in those days who were innit for themselves :neutral:


man I cant be bothered arguin with you people over this last time i did...the thread went to 300 pages or something..and u still didnt listen....just kept ramming your point down the throat...
you people take care

let us be raised as followers of the ahle bayt on the day of judgement and you with the sahabis..

allah hafiz:rofl:

Le_Gendarme
August 13th, 2006, 02:45 PM
not till they build a landing strip in Peshawar ill send you on the Gauri Missile.

Le_Gendarme
August 13th, 2006, 02:46 PM
Ill be back ! http://www.ernac.com/images/ill_be_back.jpg

khanbaba_
August 13th, 2006, 02:46 PM
Ahl Sunnah wal Jamats love for the Ahl e Bayat is real love.

Shias love for Ahl e Bayat is like Christians love for Jesus pbuh.

On the day of Judgment all the Sahabas and Ahle Bayat will be on one side and the enemies of Sahabas on other side.

Love and hatred of Sahabas both cant be in Jannah.

notoriou$punjabi
August 13th, 2006, 02:47 PM
ill send you on the Gauri Missile.
do they even take off ?

khanbaba_
August 13th, 2006, 02:47 PM
Ill be back ! http://www.ernac.com/images/ill_be_back.jpg

When you come back, translate it in English.

khanbaba_
August 13th, 2006, 02:55 PM
Prophet s.a.w said regarding Hazrat Ameer Muawiyah r.a

"Allah, make him guided, a guider, and guide people through him."

khanbaba_
August 13th, 2006, 02:58 PM
Under Hazrat Ameer Muawiyah r.a. Muslims empire stretched from Damascus to Constantinople.

khanbaba_
August 13th, 2006, 03:23 PM
"Allah is well pleased with them and they are pleased with Him. He has prepared for them Gradens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein forever. That is supreme success" (Quran: 9:100)


"Fear Allah in every matter concerning my Companions. Do not make them the targets (of your criticism) after me. Whoever loves them loves them out of love for me, and whoever hated them hates them out of hate for me. Whoever troubles them has troubled me and whoever troubles me has troubled Allah; and whoever troubles Allah, it is imminent that ALLAH seize him" (Mishkat , Tirmidhi, 554.)

nyczpakiprince
August 13th, 2006, 03:35 PM
damn it

i neeed to learn how to read urdu

the only word i can read iz "kitab" :lol:

i can speak it, but i can't read it...or write it :no:

khanbaba_
August 13th, 2006, 03:39 PM
damn it

i neeed to learn how to read urdu

the only word i can read iz "kitab" :lol:

i can speak it, but i can't read it...or write it :no:


Yes its good to learn any many languages you can.

nyczpakiprince
August 13th, 2006, 03:43 PM
Yes its good to learn any many languages you can.

worddd

i can speak english and urdu

and the shittiest most useless language today

LATIN

fuck school and fuck latin

khanbaba_
August 13th, 2006, 03:45 PM
worddd

i can speak english and urdu

and the shittiest most useless language today

LATIN

fuck school and fuck latin
Most people today cant speak Latin, so I guess its a good thing in way that you know Latin.

liquiddreamz
August 13th, 2006, 05:03 PM
ALLAH Says in Holy Quran:

"Muhammad is a Messenger of ALLAH, and those who are with him (Sahabah) are hard against the unbelievers and merciful among themselves, thou seest them bowing, prostrating, seeking bounty and pleasure of ALLAH, their mark is on their faces, being the trace of prostration. That is their likeness in the Torah and their likeness in the Gospel, as a seed that puts forth its shoot, then strengthens it, then it becomes stout, then it rises straight on its stalk, pleasing the sowers that, through them, He may enrage the unbelievers, ALLAH promises those, who believe and who, out of them, do righteous deeds, forgiveness and a big wage." ( 29 : 48 ) Al-Quran.

Sayings of Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.w):

"In the later times, a group will appear, called as Rafidha/Raafzi (SHIA). They will reject the Islam".

"A group will emerge soon who will abuse my Sahabah and endeavor to find faults in them. As such you should not keep their company, nor dine with them nor have marriage relationships with them from either side. You should not greet them either. The curse of Allah be upon them".

Le_Gendarme
August 13th, 2006, 05:10 PM
http://kasralsanam.com/pages/boosh-shia.jpg

How do they explain that ?

liquiddreamz
August 13th, 2006, 05:17 PM
http://kasralsanam.com/pages/boosh-shia.jpg

How do they explain that ?


what the...O_O

Space-Cowboy
August 13th, 2006, 05:18 PM
How do they explain that ?


wow... :neutral:

khanbaba_
August 13th, 2006, 05:20 PM
Its written in Tasfeer Ibn Kaseer that Ibn Kaseer saw a dream.
In that he saw Prophet s.a.w, the first our Caliphs r.a and Hazrat Ameer Muawiya r.a. and they were together.
There was a man coming towards Prophet s.a.w. When that man came near by, Hazrat Umer r.a, told Prophet s.a.w, this man curses the Companions.

Prophet s.a.w asked that man about this matter. The man replied, I only curse Hazrat Ameer Muawiya r.a.
At this Prophet s.a.w handed a sword to Hazrat Ameer Muawiya and told Him to strike that man with that sword. Hazrat Ameer Muawiya did so.
When Ibn Kaseer r.h woke up, he heard loud noise of crying from the neibghor-hood. When he went outside, he found out a man had died, and someone had struck him in the back. It was the same person he saw in his dream who used to curse Hazrat Muawiya r.a.


This is the punishment for cursing/hating the Sahabas even in this World..

Le_Gendarme
August 13th, 2006, 05:22 PM
Its written in Tasfeer Ibn Kaseer that Ibn Kaseer saw a dream.
In that he saw Prophet s.a.w, the first our Caliphs r.a and Hazrat Ameer Muawiya r.a. and they were together.
There was a man coming towards Prophet s.a.w. When that man came near by, Hazrat Umer r.a, told Prophet s.a.w, this man curses the Companions.

Prophet s.a.w asked that man about this matter. The man replied, I only curse Hazrat Ameer Muawiya r.a.
At this Prophet s.a.w handed a sword to Hazrat Ameer Muawiya and told Him to strike that man with that sword. Hazrat Ameer Muawiya did so.
When Ibn Kaseer r.h woke up, he heard loud noise of crying from the neibghor-hood. When he went outside, he found out a man had died, and someone had struck him in the back. It was the same person he saw in his dream who used to curse Hazrat Muawiya r.a.


This is the punishment for cursing/hating the Sahabas even in this World..Indeed !

Le_Gendarme
August 13th, 2006, 05:22 PM
but they are too afraid to debate with us !

cowards !

khanbaba_
August 13th, 2006, 05:22 PM
Can anyone of you translate that story in English?
I have to leave for work soon.
=(

Le_Gendarme
August 13th, 2006, 05:24 PM
The Shi'a curse the Sahaba
Those that curse the Sahaba are kaafirs
The Shi'a are therefore kaafirs
Those that curse the Sahaba should be killed

khanbaba_
August 13th, 2006, 05:26 PM
Once this person died during the time of Prophet s.a.w
His funeral was brought so Prophet s.a.w could read his janaza.
Prophet s.a.w refused. When asked why? Prophet s.a.w replied becuse he has hatred for Hazrat Usman in his heart.

Le_Gendarme
August 13th, 2006, 05:29 PM
Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah Bin Abi Sufyan (RA): Born: 602 AD Died: 680 AD.

Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah Bin Abi Sufyan (RA) was one of the most
respected Companions of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). Sayyidna Amir
Muawiyah Bin Abi Sufyan (RA) was born in the year 602 A. D. He was the son son
of the Quraish leader Sayyidna Abu Sufyan Bin Harb (RA). He belonged to
the clan of Banu Umayya which was the second most powerful family in
Mecca after the Banu Hashim to which the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)
belonged. When The Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) started preaching Islam,
the Banu Umayya opposed him vehemently. And since the pre-Islamic period
there was rivalry between the houses of Banu Hashim and the Banu
Umayya.

Ultimately when Mecca was conquered by the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)
in 630 A. D. the family of Sayyidna Abu Sufyan Bin Harb (RA) accepted
Islam. Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah Bin Abi Sufyan (RA) had already accepted
Islam in his heart before the conquest of Mecca but he did not disclose
it to anybody. He hid his faith like Sayyidna Abbas Bin Abdul Muttalib
(RA). After the conquest of Mecca, Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah Bin Abi
Sufyan (RA) served as Secretary to the Holy Prophet (PBUH) and was the
writer of the Revelation. Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah Bin Abi Sufyan (RA) was the
brother-in-law of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) as Sayyidna Amir
Muawiyah Bin Abi Sufyan (RA)'s sister Ummul Momineen Sayyidah Umm Habiba
Bint Abi Sufyan (RA) was married to the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).

Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah Bin Abi Sufyan (RA) was tall and was fair and
handsome in appearance. He was eloquent in speech and was noted for his
forbearance. He was a man of dignified bearing and good manners. He was
a shrewd politician and diplomat par excellence. In winning wars
Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah Bin Abi Sufyan (RA) relied more on the use of the
tongue than the use of the sword. He was loved and respected by the people
of Syria where he served as the governor for 20 years. He was known to
his people as " The Silver tongued Amir. " He was a very good
mathematician and an excellent calligraphist. Sayyidna Umar Bin Al Khattab (RA)
used to call him as " The Ceasar of the Arabs. "

Once the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) came to the house of Ummul
Momineen Sayyidah Umm Habiba Bint Abi Sufyan (RA) and found that Sayyidna
Amir Muawiyah Bin Abi Sufyan (RA) was also present there in her house.
The Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) asked Ummul Momineen Sayyidah Umm Habiba
Bint Abi Sufyan (RA) whether she loved Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah Bin Abi
Sufyan (RA). She replied that he was her brother and she definitely
loved him. Hearing this, the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) smiled and said
that Allah and His Messenger also love Muawiyah.

The Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) once prayed for Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah
Bin Abi Sufyan (RA) like this: " O Allah ! Make him a leader of the
people and make him a guide through whom the people might be guided."

The Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) had said: " The first group of Muslims
to make Naval Jihad will be the inhabitants of Heaven. " History bears
witness to the fact that the first Naval Jihad in the history of Islam
was organized and lead by Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah Bin Abi Sufyan (RA).

During the Calipahte of Sayyidna Abu Bakr Bin Abu Quhafa (RA) and
Sayyidna Umar Bin Al Khattab (RA) Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah Bin Abi Sufyan (RA)
served in the army and fought under the command of Sayyidna Khalid Bin
Al Waleed (RA), Sayyidna Abu Ubaida Bin Al Jarrah (RA) and Sayyidna
Yazeed Bin Abi Sufyan (RA). After the death of Sayyidna Yazeed Bin Abi
Sufyan (RA), Sayyidna Umar Bin Al Khattab (RA) appointed Sayyidna Amir
Muawiyah Bin Abi Sufyan (RA) as the Governor of Syria. When Sayyidna
Uthman Bin Affan (RA) became the Calpih, he confimed Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah
Bin Abi Sufyan (RA) as the Governor of Syria and added some more
territories to his jurisdiction.

There were some differences of opinion between Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah
Bin Abi Sufyan (RA) and Sayyidna Abu Zar Al Ghifari (RA) because
Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah Bin Abi Sufyan (RA) used to live a rich and lavish life
whereas Sayyidna Abu Zar Al Ghifari (RA) stood for simplicity and
austere living. That created some tension between the two Companions. Also
there were some differences between Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah Bin Abi
Sufyan (RA) and Sayyidna Adi Bin Hatim (RA) because Sayyidna Adi Bin Hatim
(RA) had sided with Sayyidna Ali Bin Abi Talib (RA) in the Battle of
Siffin.

In the year 656 A. D. when the rebels had surrounded Madinah, Sayyidna
Uthman Bin Affan (RA) held a council with the Governors of the various
Provinces. Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah Bin Abi Sufyan (RA) gave Sayyidna
Uthman Bin Affan (RA) 3 options. First option was he said that Sayyidna
Uthman Bin Affan (RA) should come to Syria with him. Sayyidna Uthman Bin
Affan (RA) rejected this option and said that he could not leave the
city of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). Second option was that Sayyidna
Uthman Bin Affan (RA) should let Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah Bin Abi Sufyan
(RA) send the Syrian troops to Madina to protect him. Sayyidna Uthman
Bin Affan (RA) said that he did not want to be the cause of a civil war.
At this, Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah Bin Abi Sufyan (RA) said that in that
case if Sayyidna Uthman Bin Affan (RA) was killed at least he should be
given the right and authority to take the Qisas of his blood. Sayyidna
Uthman Bin Affan (RA) agreed to this option. And so in the year 656 A.
D. when Sayyidna Uthman Bin Affan (RA) was matyred, Sayyidna Amir
Muawiyah Bin Abi Sufyan (RA) raised the cry of Qisas of Sayyidna Uthman Bin
Affan (RA). The Battle of Siffin which was fought between Sayyidna Amir
Muawiyah Bin Abi Sufyan (RA) and Sayyidna Ali Bin Abi Talib (RA) was
because of the same reason.

The differences between Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah Bin Abi Sufyan (RA) and
Sayyidna Ali Bin Abi Talib (RA) were political in nature and there was
no personal enemity between the two great Companions. Some people say
that Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah Bin Abi Sufyan (RA) hated Sayyidna Ali Bin
Abi Talib (RA) and was jealous of him. This is absolutely false and
there is no truth in this. Sayyidna Ali Bin Abi Talib (RA) said that
Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah Bin Abi Sufyan (RA) is his brother as both of them
believe in the same God, the same Prophet and their faith is also one.

But unfortunately, this glorius Companion of the Holy Prophet Muhammad
(PBUH) has been criticized vehemently in some circles because of his
differences with Sayyidna Ali Bin Abi Talib (RA). According to the
historians, Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah Bin Abi Sufyan (RA) usurped the Caliphate
from Sayyidna Ali Bin Abi Talib (RA).

Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah (RA) also loved an respected Sayyidna Hasan (RA) and Sayyidna Husain (RA) very much.

One of the qualities of Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah (RA) was that he was the very personification of Patience. Once after becoming the Caliph Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah (RA) was sitting in his court along with all his eminent courtiers which included Companions like Sayyidna Amr Bin Al Aas (RA) and Sayyidna Mugheerah Bin Shuba (RA). A man came in the court ans started abusing Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah (RA) and giving him badwords, all the courtiers were shocked at such indecent behaviour but none of them spoke a word. After the man went away, Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah (RA) was asked why he was silent and why didnt he order them to punish the man, the answer that Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah (RA) gave at that time was glorious, he said " If my Patience would have failed in front of such abuses then I would have been most ashamed of myself. ".

Sayyidna Ali Bin Abi Talib (RA) had once said after the Battle of Siffin : " Do not speak evil about Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah (RA) because if he were to die, our lives would become so insecure that you will see necks flying from the bodies everywhere."

Sayyidna Abdullah Bin Abbas (RA) once said: " Leave Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah (RA) alone because he is a person who has enjoyed the Companionship of the Holy Prophet (PBUH).

Once Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah (RA) received a letter from the Ceaser of Rome, it said: I know that your brother Sayyidna Ali Bin Abi Talib (RA) has caused you a lot of trouble so if you wish I will send a large Roman army to help you against him." In reply to this letter Sayyidna Amir Muawiyah (RA) wrote: " O Ceaser dont try to take advantage of the differences between me and Sayyidna Ali Bin Abi Talib (RA). I know that you want to fight the Muslims but beware if you send an army againg us, the first person to come out from the army of Sayyidna Ali Bin Abi Talib (RA) to behead you will be Muawiyah."


May Allah be pleased with him and all other Companions who are the pillars of Islam.

khanbaba_
August 13th, 2006, 05:29 PM
The Shi'a curse the Sahaba
Those that curse the Sahaba are kaafirs
The Shi'a are therefore kaafirs
Those that curse the Sahaba should be killed

Thats the punishment in an Islamic state, anyone who curses Sahabas in public or write same in the book form.

Space-Cowboy
August 13th, 2006, 05:34 PM
The Shi'a curse the Sahaba
Those that curse the Sahaba are kaafirs
The Shi'a are therefore kaafirs
Those that curse the Sahaba should be killed

:sarb: Did.... you just say that Shia should be killed?

Le_Gendarme
August 13th, 2006, 05:35 PM
:sarb: Did.... you just say that Shia should be killed? Those that curse the Sahaba should be killed :idea: