Nice guys may finish last...

[Princess_Ligi]

but they finish the best.





..going along with Clueless UK's thread about if being a bitch gets you further in life. People who ARE bitches may THINK theyre getting further in life, because people dont want to deal with them and such, but in the end, they meet loneliness and bitterness and their character comes crashing down on them. In the end, as karma goes, its the nice guys who get exactly what they wanted (not by being a doormat, but by not going out of their way to be jerks.) and more, with the assurance that they didnt need to step on anyone to get it.


What do you think?

[Highland_sardar]

but they finish the best.





..going along with Clueless UK's thread about if being a bitch gets you further in life. People who ARE bitches may THINK theyre getting further in life, because people dont want to deal with them and such, but in the end, they meet loneliness and bitterness and their character comes crashing down on them. In the end, as karma goes, its the nice guys who get exactly what they wanted (not by being a doormat, but by not going out of their way to be jerks.) and more, with the assurance that they didnt need to step on anyone to get it.


What do you think?

ACtually it still does remain a fact that nice lot finish last.. :(

[Aurovon]

In the end we get screwed either way, so ya know. whatever. suck it.

[KhanNoonienSingh]

i'm afraid being good is just as bad as being nice.

either way, we finish first. chronologically with regards to life that is. :cool2:

[Princess_Ligi]

ACtually it still does remain a fact that nice lot finish last.. :(
so what, maybe they do: BUT they have a better quality of life, and in the end, thats all that matters, that they were GOOD people. Your actions are written down in the book of judgement, according to my religion, and when it comes down to it, you will be questioned for everything you did. And those who get by in life stepping on others, meet despair int he end. Whilst those who follow a moral code and the golden rule, meet compensation and reap the benefits of their character.

[...Hero...]

What is everyone talking about "finishing last"

This aint no bloody marathon.

[Aurovon]

True happiness comes within. If you look back at your past and not feel guilty about the paths you've taken, then might as well pat yourself on the back.

[KhanNoonienSingh]

so what, maybe they do: BUT they have a better quality of life, and in the end, thats all that matters, that they were GOOD people. Your actions are written down in the book of judgement, according to my religion, and when it comes down to it, you will be questioned for everything you did. And those who get by in life stepping on others, meet despair int he end. Whilst those who follow a moral code and the golden rule, meet compensation and reap the benefits of their character.
pretty lonely trek thru a dangerous path though.

[Aurovon]

What is everyone talking about "finishing last"

This aint no bloody marathon.



It's just a rat race. We think there is a finish line, but it's just the water you see in the desert.

[Princess_Ligi]

What is everyone talking about "finishing last"

This aint no bloody marathon.


well some act like life is a race, to get the prize. Indeed, we must run the race in order to get the prize, but we must not compromise our character for it, and stumble along the way. In the end, the nice guy gets the prize for beign courteous and not pushing down the other runners..

[Space-Cowboy]

It's not so much that nice guys finish last.... it's that nice guys don't finish at all.

[s11nyk]

I'm the Duracell bunny, i just keep on going and going...........

[bewakoof]

nice guys would always finish last.. no matter what..

they don't finish last because they are boring/too nice they finish last because they let people use them..

A** holes.. were nice guys once too.. but they changed.. after they got used the furst time.. but some people just don't learn!

[KhanNoonienSingh]

It's not so much that nice guys finish last.... it's that nice guys don't finish at all.
:lol:

:werd:

[...Hero...]

It's just a rat race. We think there is a finish line, but it's just the water you see in the desert.

Cool I wonder how Mickey Mouse would feel about that? You know we all utimately end the same, we die and cant take anything except who we are with us

[Princess_Ligi]

True happiness comes within. If you look back at your past and not feel guilty about the paths you've taken, then might as well pat yourself on the back.
Im sure within all of us, we have regrets about the way that we've treated people or things we've said. No one is perfect, but I believe we should live our lives to feel happy with ourselves as human beings.

[KhanNoonienSingh]

nice guys would always finish last.. no matter what..

they don't finish last because they are boring/too nice they finish last because they let people use them..

A** holes.. were nice guys once too.. but they changed.. after they got used the furst time.. but some people just don't learn!
some nice guys were 'a** holes' once too. listen to ligi.

[Aurovon]

Bad guys don't finish either.

Humans can't finish shit.

We leave it for our little ones, and they get fucked over as well.

It's a rat fuck fest I tell ya!

[R.J]

so what, maybe they do: BUT they have a better quality of life, and in the end, thats all that matters, that they were GOOD people. Your actions are written down in the book of judgement, according to my religion, and when it comes down to it, you will be questioned for everything you did. And those who get by in life stepping on others, meet despair int he end. Whilst those who follow a moral code and the golden rule, meet compensation and reap the benefits of their character.

Christianity?

:hsnono:

[Princess_Ligi]

It's not so much that nice guys finish last.... it's that nice guys don't finish at all.
Thats not true. You dont believe in karma? What goes around, comes around?

[Aurovon]

Cool I wonder how Mickey Mouse would feel about that? You know we all utimately end the same, we die and cant take anything except who we are with us

We come naked into this world, and we leave naked.

Moral of the story: Don't waste money on clothes

[Princess_Ligi]

Bad guys don't finish either.

Humans can't finish shit.

We leave it for our little ones, and they get fucked over as well.

It's a rat fuck fest I tell ya!
lol, leave it to Auro to break it down for us.

[Princess_Ligi]

We come naked into this world, and we leave naked.

Moral of the story: Don't waste money on clothes
:rofl:

[Princess_Ligi]

Christianity?

:hsnono:
lol hush.

[Clueless_uk]

Nice guys may be happy one day...that is in heaven after death..or witha gat partner :neutral: (joke)

The turth is though....people generally seem to love Bitches....its all part of the fashion........but whatever may be in u will never catch me in lime green shoes

[KhanNoonienSingh]

sorry for littering the thread :gay:

the fuck is wrong with you all? can you guys listen to yourselves?

take a 5 year old and ask them if being nice is good :squint: all my posts on western society were useless, this thread does all my work for me.

yes being nice is GOOD. it is a GOOD trait. not all good guys have it, the 'more good' the guy, the nicer he'll be.

there's nothing existential about it. you KNEW that from a young age. you knew what nice was the moment yo mama saw you. you KNEW it was good.

how can a society lose something like that? i don't wanna know what makes you all doubt nice as soon as you see it. just because people pretend to be nice doesn't make nice BAD. that's like saying terrorists make islam bad. nice was around before and will be around after. fake nice? have you ever been to any country outside of the united states? :ugh: you'll be blown away by the 'niceness' you see and you're going to be suspicious of it, and that's a tragedy.

I'M A NICE GUY. and a good guy. you motherfuckers. and i'm gonna show you nice until you love it. you don't know my name, you don't know what i look like but i swear by whatever the hell it is you believe in, that one day "i" will break down your door, pull you out into the street and beat the nice back into you. mercifully beat the love of family, of life, of neighbor, of nature, of faith back into you. and your kids aren't going to say anything, they won't say "that's not nice" because they'll know better than you. this is going to happen. it is inevitable.

fake nice? you bitches have seen so much fake nice you forgot what real nice is all about and how much it hurts.

you will all lowe it.
nice people hug :grouphug:

for the guys: don't be afraid to be nice. not just 'a little nice', but as nice as you can be. as good as you can be. yes, its true. you won't get women. they couldn't tell nice from their own asses and i'm pretty sure they spend more time analyzing their own asses anyway. take one for the team. be a good guy, the world is in short supply. there's other things we're good for. bloodlust is also just as fun as normal lust, trust.

for the wimminz: if you're not nice, your babies are gonna grow up fucked up. yes. babies know if you're faking. and i don't wanna get too carried away, but in the long-term macro view of human history, i think it shows babies know good as well. maybe not bad, but they know good. and that will fuck them up too. being evil and happy won't get you much farther.

[bewakoof]

some nice guys were 'a** holes' once too. listen to ligi.

there was this saying.. my dad told me once.. in his broken/twisted english..

fool me once, you stupid.. fool me twice, I stupid... for some reason just made an impression..

[KhanNoonienSingh]

lol hush.
heh. accountability is a major principle in one form or another in most faiths.

[R.J]

lol hush.

That is not how it works, I think you know that too woman......I don't believe in this people paying for what they did wrong rubbish in the afterlife..........

[kaseem]

but they finish the best.





..going along with Clueless UK's thread about if being a bitch gets you further in life. People who ARE bitches may THINK theyre getting further in life, because people dont want to deal with them and such, but in the end, they meet loneliness and bitterness and their character comes crashing down on them. In the end, as karma goes, its the nice guys who get exactly what they wanted (not by being a doormat, but by not going out of their way to be jerks.) and more, with the assurance that they didnt need to step on anyone to get it.


What do you think?

naa i hear what ur tryin to say but i can assure you that being a nice guy is pointless cause there will always be some1 around every corner who is prepared to take the piss and take advantage of you.

be nice but dont go overboard keep in mind that there are gonna be prats out there who take advantage of a nice genune nice person.

the hardest thing is if u hav been nice and treated like a door mat then u feel the urge to change ur nice habbits and turn into a complete bastard towards every1 you meet in future but hey thats not fair on others is it ?

im too nice.

[Highland_sardar]

so what, maybe they do: BUT they have a better quality of life, and in the end, thats all that matters, that they were GOOD people. Your actions are written down in the book of judgement, according to my religion, and when it comes down to it, you will be questioned for everything you did. And those who get by in life stepping on others, meet despair int he end. Whilst those who follow a moral code and the golden rule, meet compensation and reap the benefits of their character.


Thats all true... but i thought the topic was refering to Nice guys finishing last in the eyes of girls ... i mean worst of lot landing the best of girls and vice versa...

[...Hero...]

well some act like life is a race, to get the prize. Indeed, we must run the race in order to get the prize, but we must not compromise our character for it, and stumble along the way. In the end, the nice guy gets the prize for beign courteous and not pushing down the other runners..

But why do you say it like we are all running? What if I wanna walk? Its not the end that counts its the journey.

[Aurovon]

sorry for littering the thread :gay:

Well said, I agree.

[Princess_Ligi]

nice guys would always finish last.. no matter what..

they don't finish last because they are boring/too nice they finish last because they let people use them..

A** holes.. were nice guys once too.. but they changed.. after they got used the furst time.. but some people just don't learn!
Yes, they changed because they werent patient and didnt care about those around them any longer. You change into an A**hole, you reap what you sow. For those who are humble and remain humble, the benefits are returned to you in threefolds of what you paid.

I have been used, I have been manipulated, WILLINGLY. In my school, I have the highest GPA and am class VP, so people are hateful of me cus the teachers like me, but when it comes down to a big paper or a test and they need help: who's ass do they lick? MINE. Now Im not stupid, I know what theyre doing, theyre just using me...but I offer them help when they ask. I would go out of my way to help them. Now when the test is over or the paper is complete, they treat me like shit again. "Oh, look at Miss Perfect, blah blah blah."

Why do this, you'd ask? because it helps me sleep at night, knowing that Im not as low as them and I would still help them like Ive been taught.

[...Hero...]

We come naked into this world, and we leave naked.

Moral of the story: Don't waste money on clothes

LOL...I think the people ay nudist beaches would agree!

[mp3]

http://www.lynchposters.com/images/Mr.-Nice-Guy.jpg

[bewakoof]

Just coz.. girls are gonna read this.. I am gonna make one other thing clear..

nice guys are desperate/lonely as world percieves them.. some people are genuinely nice from inside coz they are brought up like tht.. its in the bloody gene's

[Princess_Ligi]

sorry for littering the thread :gay:
I really LOVE the points youre making

[KhanNoonienSingh]

http://www.lynchposters.com/images/Mr.-Nice-Guy.jpg
:roflbow:

[Aurovon]

A lot of people assume that if you don't bend over backwards for others, you're a jerk. I disagree.

[KhanNoonienSingh]

I really LOVE the points youre making
a handful of people will pay lip service to these common ideas. out of them a few might actually know what they're talking about. i honestly think this is easier for you to think about because you're older, gonna get married and been through some shit.

i'd bet 99% of people do not agree at all with those points. they won't argue against it, they'll just mark the person saying these things down as 'to avoid'.
Just coz.. girls are gonna read this.. I am gonna make one other thing clear..

nice guys are desperate/lonely as world percieves them.. some people are genuinely nice from inside coz they are brought up like tht.. its in the bloody gene's
world's perception. :lol: the world needs a black eye.

loltacular. :cheers:

[Princess_Ligi]

naa i hear what ur tryin to say but i can assure you that being a nice guy is pointless cause there will always be some1 around every corner who is prepared to take the piss and take advantage of you.

be nice but dont go overboard keep in mind that there are gonna be prats out there who take advantage of a nice genune nice person.

the hardest thing is if u hav been nice and treated like a door mat then u feel the urge to change ur nice habbits and turn into a complete bastard towards every1 you meet in future but hey thats not fair on others is it ?

im too nice.
I agree, in my real life, I am too nice as well. In fact, my teachers were talking about me in the office (word got back to me) saying that I was the onyl dependable person in the whole program and would bend over backwards for anyone, even thoguh NONE of my classmates visited or called me during my surgery for cancer. They were angry about the way the classmates treated me. Yet when it came down to it, when I came bck and someone needed help with a project (someone who otherwise ignored me), I was all for helping them, post operation and pre cancer therapy. Im nto tryign to make myself look like a saint, but I took comfort in the fact that others could see this in me. Perhaps as a sort of role model. MAyeb a doormat, but I KNEW what I was doing. I KNEW I was being used, but i did it anyway.

There are gonan be jerks wherever you go, but you beat them with kindness. and on judgement day, you will be the one standing tall.

[bewakoof]

Yes, they changed because they werent patient and didnt care about those around them any longer. You change into an A**hole, you reap what you sow. For those who are humble and remain humble, the benefits are returned to you in threefolds of what you paid.

I have been used, I have been manipulated, WILLINGLY. In my school, I have the highest GPA and am class VP, so people are hateful of me cus the teachers like me, but when it comes down to a big paper or a test and they need help: who's ass do they lick? MINE. Now Im not stupid, I know what theyre doing, theyre just using me...but I offer them help when they ask. I would go out of my way to help them. Now when the test is over or the paper is complete, they treat me like shit again. "Oh, look at Miss Perfect, blah blah blah."

Why do this, you'd ask? because it helps me sleep at night, knowing that Im not as low as them and I would still help them like Ive been taught.

you are right.. being nice does help you get better sleep at night.. Knowing that you have done the right thing is the best feeling ever.. but your cause is different.. you are helping others out with their homework.. it be like lending money.. or helping a friend with his school work who badmouth's you..

lets talk about relationship.. you are nice.. you get f'd over.. coz you girl slept with your best frnd.. she comes back to you, cries.. what do you do? forgive and forget.. move on..

being nice is good but you always have to look out for yourself.. Always!..

[Highland_sardar]

Just coz.. girls are gonna read this.. I am gonna make one other thing clear..

nice guys are desperate/lonely as world percieves them.. some people are genuinely nice from inside coz they are brought up like tht.. its in the bloody gene's

u should change ur name to Not_Bevakoof

[Clueless_uk]

U should be nice for the right reasons

Too much "niceness" turns u into a fool.....there must always be a balance

Example with mother and child...if the mother is always NICE..she will spoil the child

[Octane]

but they finish the best.





..going along with Clueless UK's thread about if being a bitch gets you further in life. People who ARE bitches may THINK theyre getting further in life, because people dont want to deal with them and such, but in the end, they meet loneliness and bitterness and their character comes crashing down on them. In the end, as karma goes, its the nice guys who get exactly what they wanted (not by being a doormat, but by not going out of their way to be jerks.) and more, with the assurance that they didnt need to step on anyone to get it.


What do you think?


Thats a myth promulgated by the Bad Boy crew to make sure that the Nice Guys crew never gets whats comming to them. Its all a huge conspiracy created by the Illuminati (all ex jocks might I add) to prevent geeks from getting access to the female vault. My random thoughts...

[Princess_Ligi]

you are right.. being nice does help you get better sleep at night.. Knowing that you have done the right thing is the best feeling ever.. but your cause is different.. you are helping others out with their homework.. it be like lending money.. or helping a friend with his school work who badmouth's you..

lets talk about relationship.. you are nice.. you get f'd over.. coz you girl slept with your best frnd.. she comes back to you, cries.. what do you do? forgive and forget.. move on..

being nice is good but you always have to look out for yourself.. Always!..
There is a limit. when it comes to relationships, a girl who goes out there anf f***s your best friend, deserves forgiveness, sure. But you dont have to set yourself up int hat position again. Yes, if you love her and she truly is sorry, by all means, move on. But the event may shatter you and hurt you more than anything. You need to look out for yourself, by all means.

[Princess_Ligi]

U should be nice for the right reasons

Too much "niceness" turns u into a fool.....there must always be a balance

Example with mother and child...if the mother is always NICE..she will spoil the child
youre right in that aspect. Over niceness is helping someone else and destroying yourself, you must take a stand where it is needed. A balance is good, but you should still be on the generous scale rather than the malicious on that balance.

[Princess_Ligi]

A lot of people assume that if you don't bend over backwards for others, you're a jerk. I disagree.
you dont have to bend over backwards. But isnt a nice feeling knowing that others can see good in you, because of the energy around and in you?

[tamil_desi]

True Dat! :yes: :p

[Princess_Ligi]

Thats a myth promulgated by the Bad Boy crew to make sure that the Nice Guys crew never gets whats comming to them. Its all a huge conspiracy created by the Illuminati (all ex jocks might I add) to prevent geeks from getting access to the female vault. My random thoughts...
Well in my own life, i used to date assholes. Stupid idiot guys that were HOT, mind you, but jerks nonetheless. Now, for the last almost 2 yrs Ive been with the nicest guy int he world whom Im marrying next yr. And the former- a**holes of my life are all like "WTF ?! I wanted to marry you." Well, too bad. Guess you gotta treat a girl right.

I like geeky, smart, nice guys who make me laugh and feel like a princess.

[bewakoof]

There is a limit. when it comes to relationships, a girl who goes out there anf f***s your best friend, deserves forgiveness, sure. But you dont have to set yourself up int hat position again. Yes, if you love her and she truly is sorry, by all means, move on. But the event may shatter you and hurt you more than anything. You need to look out for yourself, by all means.

so you are telling me she deserves forgivenes... ?? ?!?!

i would retariate my point again.. being nice to help others.. is okay.. nobel deed.. being nice so that people walk over you is STUPID!

[Space-Cowboy]

Thats not true. You dont believe in karma? What goes around, comes around?


Yes I do......... essentially, that nice guys start standing up for themselves, and THEN it all changes..



I think we need to define what 'nice guy' is exactly.... You can be a strong 'bad boy', without being a 'jerk'.

[Princess_Ligi]

so you are telling me she deserves forgivenes... ?? ?!?!

i would retariate my point again.. being nice to help others.. is okay.. nobel deed.. being nice so that people walk over you is STUPID!
forgiveness, for YOUR sake, not hers. So that you dont carry this burden of anger in your heart forever, hardening your heart. You take the lessons learned in life, you forgive mistakes, but you dont forget them. You take what youve learned and you enhance your life with it.

[Princess_Ligi]

Yes I do......... essentially, that nice guys start standing up for themselves, and THEN it all changes..
Ok, another example. I got so fed up on here, because people were rude to me. I made a thread exclaiming that I was going to be super bitch for about a week, just to try it out. Did it do me any good? No, it got me more hate. In fact, I couldnt even do it cus I didnt know HOW to be a bitch!

[bewakoof]

forgiveness, for YOUR sake, not hers. So that you dont carry this burden of anger in your heart forever, hardening your heart. You take the lessons learned in life, you forgive mistakes, but you dont forget them. You take what youve learned and you enhance your life with it.

you need to have a very big heart to forgive.. I don't think a lot of us have that capability!.. its not a bollywood movie.. and I aint SRK.. I am a normal kid

[Octane]

Well in my own life, i used to date assholes. Stupid idiot guys that were HOT, mind you, but jerks nonetheless. Now, for the last almost 2 yrs Ive been with the nicest guy int he world whom Im marrying next yr. And the former- a**holes of my life are all like "WTF ?! I wanted to marry you." Well, too bad. Guess you gotta treat a girl right.

I like geeky, smart, nice guys who make me laugh and feel like a princess.

Can we clone you??? :p

But really in a sense you proved my point you started out with the assholes. So why should the nice guys be considered the contingency plan?

Why do the nice guys get second dibbs?

[Princess_Ligi]

a handful of people will pay lip service to these common ideas. out of them a few might actually know what they're talking about. i honestly think this is easier for you to think about because you're older, gonna get married and been through some shit.

i'd bet 99% of people do not agree at all with those points. they won't argue against it, they'll just mark the person saying these things down as 'to avoid'.

world's perception. :lol: the world needs a black eye.

loltacular. :cheers:
Most will not agree, because as we age, our hearts harden due to the wrongings afflicted apon us. We take these afflictions and we become cold to others, instead of takign vital life lessons and bettering ourselves with it.

[fr00ti]

bad boys :cool:

[Octane]

Yes I do......... essentially, that nice guys start standing up for themselves, and THEN it all changes..



I think we need to define what 'nice guy' is exactly.... You can be a strong 'bad boy', without being a 'jerk'.

:werd:

PS> You have a growing fan club I see :p

[tamil_desi]

bad boys :cool:

Pssssssht :hand:

[Princess_Ligi]

Can we clone you??? :p

But really in a sense you proved my point you started out with the assholes. So why should the nice guys be considered the contingency plan?

Why do the nice guys get second dibbs?
The nice guy also gets to marry me and have me as the mother to his children, which is exactly what he wanted. None of those jerks will ever have me calling them my husband. They will instead get bitchy women who treat them like crap, or cheat ont hem behind their backs because their guys are jerks. You have to live and learn first, before you realize what to look for in a guy and what will make you happy. No child automatically knows how to talk, it must be taught, by the words observed around them. No child automatically knows how walk, it must learn balance first.

In the same sense, we are still children in our walks of life, you neevr stop learning. You must fall down and bruise your bottom first, in order to stand upright and walk with pride.

[Octane]

And really in the end being a Bastard gets you more ass, hands down.

Women can argue it all day long, but its a fact, and many of them know it.

[bewakoof]

Yes I do......... essentially, that nice guys start standing up for themselves, and THEN it all changes..



I think we need to define what 'nice guy' is exactly.... You can be a strong 'bad boy', without being a 'jerk'.

Well SAID!

[Princess_Ligi]

And really in the end being a Bastard gets you more ass, hands down.

Women can argue it all day long, but its a fact, and many of them know it.
It may get you more ass, but is nothing of substance. In the end, a life without substance will make you hollow and empty inside.

[Princess_Ligi]

bad boys :cool:
youre too nice for bad boys!

[Space-Cowboy]

:werd:

PS> You have a growing fan club I see :p


yeaaaa I saw, last night.... so much for me being low key :|

[fr00ti]

youre too nice for bad boys!
Opposites attract.. :o

[Princess_Ligi]

Pssssssht :hand:
Phil, hands down the nicest guy on the forums.

[Octane]

The nice guy also gets to marry me and have me as the mother to his children, which is exactly what he wanted. None of those jerks will ever have me calling them my husband. They will instead get bitchy women who treat them like crap, or cheat ont hem behind their backs because their guys are jerks. You have to live and learn first, before you realize what to look for in a guy and what will make you happy. No child automatically knows how to talk, it must be taught, by the words observed around them. No child automatically knows how walk, it must learn balance first.

In the same sense, we are still children in our walks of life, you neevr stop learning. You must fall down and bruise your bottom first, in order to stand upright and walk with pride.

In this instance yes and which it worked out well for you. But the point is that they made their mark already prior to that. And everyone goes through learning curve the question then is why do the majority go the "bad boy" route.

My 2 cents.

[KhanNoonienSingh]

Can we clone you??? :p

But really in a sense you proved my point you started out with the assholes. So why should the nice guys be considered the contingency plan?

Why do the nice guys get second dibbs?
heh, that's why this world is lame compared to the old. its supposed to be equal opportunity but it isn't. the current context of our interaction in western and "modernized" society is home court advantage for the bad.

back in the day, good guys got first dibbs cuz they'd mess up the bad guys and make off with the woman. bad guys who won would actually learn responsibility and reform because people were still capable of change.

now you have petrified shells of people by the time they hit their 20s.

[Space-Cowboy]

Ok, another example. I got so fed up on here, because people were rude to me. I made a thread exclaiming that I was going to be super bitch for about a week, just to try it out. Did it do me any good? No, it got me more hate. In fact, I couldnt even do it cus I didnt know HOW to be a bitch!


being 'mean' doesn't require you to be a 'bitch' perse... ...... just go do a drive-by.... that'll show em.....




:firedevi:

[Octane]

yeaaaa I saw, last night.... so much for me being low key :|

LOL. Its all good man. I didnt get a chance to post in it but now I will most certainly have too now. :D

And as per the low key as long as we dont hear of you showing up on some videos on RD I think your good to go. LOL. ;)

[Space-Cowboy]

LOL. Its all good man. I didnt get a chance to post in it but now I will most certainly have too now. :D

And as per the low key as long as we dont hear of you showing up on some videos on RD I think your good to go. LOL. ;)


haha it's all good :p

[KhanNoonienSingh]

In this instance yes and which it worked out well for you. But the point is that they made their mark already prior to that. And everyone goes through learning curve the question then is why do the majority go the "bad boy" route.

My 2 cents.
we already know why. its why people justified robbing them of their freedom to go that route in the first place. :idea:

now they got it, let everyone sit back and watch how they deal with it. before it is inevitably taken away again, and arguably for the better (they justify the argument).

[Octane]

heh, that's why this world is lame compared to the old. its supposed to be equal opportunity but it isn't. the current context of our interaction in western and "modernized" society is home court advantage for the bad.

back in the day, good guys got first dibbs cuz they'd mess up the bad guys and make off with the woman. bad guys who won would actually learn responsibility and reform because people were still capable of change.

now you have petrified shells of people by the time they hit their 20s.

Exactly my point. But you illustrated it much better. I tip my hat to you sir.

[Space-Cowboy]

Essentially, the Princess put it perfectly, it IS about Karma [yes yes, I know many of you don't believe in it]...... but what's so outlandish about "cause and effect" "action and reaction" "deeds and consequences"... ?

[Space-Cowboy]

Exactly my point. But you illustrated it much better. I tip my hat to you sir.


I thought Khan's a girl :sarb:

[Octane]

we already know why. its why people justified robbing them of their freedom to go that route in the first place. :idea:

now they got it, let everyone sit back and watch how they deal with it. before it is inevitably taken away again, and arguably for the better (they justify the argument).

Well they really have worked the system good. And a new set of lemmings is on its way ripe for the picking.

[Octane]

I thought Khan's a girl :sarb:


Khan a girl ??? No no he is not a she. LOL.

















Seriously Khan your a dude right? :neutral:

[Octane]

Essentially, the Princess put it perfectly, it IS about Karma [yes yes, I know many of you don't believe in it]...... but what's so outlandish about "cause and effect" "action and reaction" "deeds and consequences"... ?

Nothing outlandish about it at all man.

[kaseem]

I agree, in my real life, I am too nice as well. In fact, my teachers were talking about me in the office (word got back to me) saying that I was the onyl dependable person in the whole program and would bend over backwards for anyone, even thoguh NONE of my classmates visited or called me during my surgery for cancer. They were angry about the way the classmates treated me. Yet when it came down to it, when I came bck and someone needed help with a project (someone who otherwise ignored me), I was all for helping them, post operation and pre cancer therapy. Im nto tryign to make myself look like a saint, but I took comfort in the fact that others could see this in me. Perhaps as a sort of role model. MAyeb a doormat, but I KNEW what I was doing. I KNEW I was being used, but i did it anyway.

There are gonan be jerks wherever you go, but you beat them with kindness. and on judgement day, you will be the one standing tall.

Definataly i agree too you shouldnt change cause of a few idiots,believe it or not there are still people who appriciate others being nice to them in the world, well thats what keeps me going.

Its all about inner strength and willpower your a beautiful person dont let no one tell you any diffrent.

[Space-Cowboy]

Nothing outlandish about it at all man.

But.... ...... you... as a Muslim...wouldn't you . . . ? :sarb:

[morning_dew]

...but in the end, they meet loneliness and bitterness and their character comes crashing down on them.....EXACTLY. I myself am a firm believer of Karma...coupled together with my beliefs as a muslim, i believe that we will be judged on our actions...but also by the intentions we hold...you are a stronger, fulfilled and happy individual if your faith (or inner goodness...perhaps) is strong enough for you to be able to turn the other cheek than to feel the need to stoop so low and abuse others by using them merely as a means to an end.
a person may finish last but atleast they finish with inner happiness, their head held up high and get a good nights sleep. this life isn't supposed to make sense....the 'good people' aren't the ones who get rewarded in this life...truth is that a lot of the time God puts his most loved ones through hardship and suffering....why? because its His way of bringing you close to Him, He wants you to pray to him, to ask for help and forgiveness...but i believe there will be a time and a place when everything will make sense...the good will be rewarded, and it'll be the 'bad people' who finish last... (and for the atheists...i dont care if you don't believe in that bit/God...just respect what others believe. kay?)

:hug: btw Leej :wavey: how are ya? looooong time no see! :) i missed reading your 'humanity filled' posts on this board...its great to see you posting again. hows treatment going...

khannooniensingh sup? how are ya? i havent spoke to you in aaaages either! i love your posts..their beautiful! you have this amazing talent to exemplify even the most complex ideologies...and you always...i mean always make sense!

Definataly i agree too you shouldnt change cause of a few idiots,believe it or not there are still people who appriciate others being nice to them in the world, well thats what keeps me going.

Its all about inner strength and willpower your a beautiful person dont let no one tell you any diffrent.true say homie ;) as long as your strength, willpower and beliefs are intact..you'll be able to get through almost anything in life. if you change yourself because of a few idiots you've come across...well then you're just letting them win. learn to look at the bigger picture in life....and one day you'll be able to find that person who'll be able to appreciate your kindness, than to use it against you...

[daym that was one mofo of a looong post :no: ]

[Princess_Ligi]

EXACTLY. I myself am a firm believer of Karma...coupled together with my beliefs as a muslim, i believe that we will be judged on our actions...but also by the intentions we hold...you are a stronger, fulfilled and happy individual if your faith (or inner goodness...perhaps) is strong enough for you to be able to turn the other cheek than to feel the need to stoop so low and abuse others by using them merely as a means to an end.
a person may finish last but atleast they finish with inner happiness, their head held up high and get a good nights sleep. this life isn't supposed to make sense....the 'good people' aren't the ones who get rewarded in this life...truth is that a lot of the time God puts his most loved ones through hardship and suffering....why? because its His way of bringing you close to Him, He wants you to pray to him, to ask for help and forgiveness...but i believe there will be a time and a place when everything will make sense...the good will be rewarded, and it'll be the 'bad people' who finish last... (and for the atheists...i dont care if you don't believe in that bit/God...just respect what others believe. kay?)

:hug: btw Leej :wavey: how are ya? looooong time no see! :) i missed reading your 'humanity filled' posts on this board...its great to see you posting again. hows treatment going...

khannooniensingh sup? how are ya? i havent spoke to you in aaaages either! i love your posts..their beautiful! you have this amazing talent to exemplify even the most complex ideologies...and you always...i mean always make sense!

true say homie ;) as long as your strength, willpower and beliefs are intact..you'll be able to get through almost anything in life. if you change yourself because of a few idiots you've come across...well then you're just letting them win. learn to look at the bigger picture in life....and one day you'll be able to find that person who'll be able to appreciate your kindness, than to use it against you...

[daym that was one mofo of a looong post :no: ]
oh Gooooooooooodddddddd, I love you. Youre the best! Youre like my Team America counterpart! I am doing good, i thought i had quit too, but here i am! how are you?

[Space-Cowboy]

EXACTLY. I myself am a firm believer of Karma...coupled together with my beliefs as a muslim, i believe that we will be judged on our actions...but also by the intentions we hold...you are a stronger, fulfilled and happy individual if your faith (or inner goodness...perhaps) is strong enough for you to be able to turn the other cheek than to feel the need to stoop so low and abuse others by using them merely as a means to an end.
a person may finish last but atleast they finish with inner happiness, their head held up high and get a good nights sleep. this life isn't supposed to make sense....the 'good people' aren't the ones who get rewarded in this life...truth is that a lot of the time God puts his most loved ones through hardship and suffering....why? because its His way of bringing you close to Him, He wants you to pray to him, to ask for help and forgiveness...but i believe there will be a time and a place when everything will make sense...the good will be rewarded, and it'll be the 'bad people' who finish last... (and for the atheists...i dont care if you don't believe in that bit/God...just respect what others believe. kay?)

:hug: btw Leej :wavey: how are ya? looooong time no see! :) i missed reading your 'humanity filled' posts on this board...its great to see you posting again. hows treatment going...

khannooniensingh sup? how are ya? i havent spoke to you in aaaages either! i love your posts..their beautiful! you have this amazing talent to exemplify even the most complex ideologies...and you always...i mean always make sense!

true say homie ;) as long as your strength, willpower and beliefs are intact..you'll be able to get through almost anything in life. if you change yourself because of a few idiots you've come across...well then you're just letting them win. learn to look at the bigger picture in life....and one day you'll be able to find that person who'll be able to appreciate your kindness, than to use it against you...

[daym that was one mofo of a looong post :no: ]

No disrespect or anything, I'm just letting you know Karma IS an integral part of Vedic Philosophy and the Vedic faiths [Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist, Jain]... and.... from what I've found there are many people of western faiths [Muslims, Christians, etc.], on this site and in the real world who simply ward it off...

[Princess_Ligi]

No disrespect or anything, I'm just letting you know Karma IS an integral part of Vedic Philosophy and the Vedic faiths [Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist, Jain]... and.... from what I've found there are many people of western faiths [Muslims, Christians, etc.], on this site and in the real world who simply ward it off...
yes, perhaps it is a vedic faith, but from what Ive seen, the Christians and Muslims (true ones at that) have also been ones to truly take hold of it. Not to be generalizing. Even if karma is a founded concept of one religion, it is a universal principle and is evident in everythign we do. Christians may not call it "karma" per se, but it is sown into our religon, as turn the cheek, and the good will befall you.

[morning_dew]

No disrespect or anything, I'm just letting you know Karma IS an integral part of Vedic Philosophy and the Vedic faiths [Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist, Jain]... and.... from what I've found there are many people of western faiths [Muslims, Christians, etc.], on this site and in the real world who simply ward it off...i cant recall saying karma was exclusive to Islam :think:
but for me personally i feel that my teachings as a muslim reinforce and help demonstrate my belief in karma even more so. :) (and i'm sure it is the same whichever religion you decide to follow)
trying to put myself in the shoes of an atheist...i personally would find it difficult to be able to fully believe in karma and its true extent. most importantly i feel religion helps to apply karma to life.
oh Gooooooooooodddddddd, I love you. Youre the best! Youre like my Team America counterpart! I am doing good, i thought i had quit too, but here i am! how are you?i heart you too ligi! :love: 'Team America counterpart' haha! great to hear you've been doing good :) i kinda quit this place over exams....wanted to quit it, quit it...but obviously that didnt happen :p i havent been doing much. uni finished a while back, and i guess i've been 'chilling' since and have been enjoying alllllll this sunnyness here in the uk!

[Princess_Ligi]

i cant recall saying karma was exclusive to Islam :think:
but for me personally i feel that my teachings as a muslim reinforce and help demonstrate my belief in karma even more so. :) (and i'm sure it is the same whichever religion you decide to follow)
trying to put myself in the shoes of an atheist...i personally would find it difficult to be able to fully believe in karma and its true extent. most importantly i feel religion helps to apply karma to life.
i heart you too ligi! :love: 'Team America counterpart' haha! great to hear you've been doing good :) i kinda quit this place over exams....wanted to quit it, quit it...but obviously that didnt happen :p i havent been doing much. uni finished a while back, and i guess i've been 'chilling' since and have been enjoying alllllll this sunnyness here in the uk!
hope you aced all your exams! Lol school was one reason i quit too, and it did me so much good.

[TheSkyIsBlue]

who gives a shit..in the end us men realize that all chicks are fuckin golddiggers :neutral:

[Space-Cowboy]

i cant recall saying karma was exclusive to Islam :think:
but for me personally i feel that my teachings as a muslim reinforce and help demonstrate my belief in karma even more so. :) (and i'm sure it is the same whichever religion you decide to follow)
trying to put myself in the shoes of an atheist...i personally would find it difficult to be able to fully believe in karma and its true extent. most importantly i feel religion helps to apply karma to life.


aye it's kool, for us, Karma is an integral part of Vedic Philosophy. And in terms of Atheist..... I certainly don't disrespect them, BUT.... I could never imagine myself with such a bleak outlook..... that this life is the end all be all, and all that happens to us is worm food after we die........ no.... I personally don't think I could go on seeing the world and our place in it, in such a way.....

[King Ghidra]

I've joined the dark side, they have cake and tea....

Disrespect women and you're a success with them :think:

It's stupid being nice it's taken more than 23 years to figure it out...better late than never.

[KhanNoonienSingh]

I've joined the dark side, they have cake and tea....

Disrespect women and you're a success with them :think:

It's stupid being nice it's taken more than 23 years to figure it out...better late than never.
hahah that goes without saying. its what keeps a marriage running. strife. maybe some domestic abuse too or whatever gets women off nowadays.

rule of thumb for those playing the modren game: you wait around for them to grow up. giving them a chance for a real relationship while you're young. then when you're tired of waiting, just go get one and relax cuz you got it in the bag and have no responsibility to be anything more.

[King Ghidra]

hahah that goes without saying. its what keeps a marriage running. strife. maybe some domestic abuse too or whatever gets women off nowadays.

rule of thumb for those playing the modren game: you wait around for them to grow up. giving them a chance for a real relationship while you're young. then when you're tired of waiting, just go get one and relax cuz you got it in the bag and have no responsibility to be anything more.

:no: Domestic abuse.....that's just wrong.

:rofl: You talk like a true pimp.....i'm about as smooth as clark kent

[morning_dew]

ahem! :squint: K. N. Singh....you were supposed to say 'hiya' back.

[R.J]

:no: Domestic abuse.....that's just wrong.

:rofl: You talk like a true pimp.....i'm about as smooth as clark kent

LOL! I think if you and I went out on the pull with our stuttering and panic attacks combined.......it would be just pure comedy.

:no:

[KhanNoonienSingh]

:no: Domestic abuse.....that's just wrong.

:rofl: You talk like a true pimp.....i'm about as smooth as clark kent
i said this in a thread last night, but if i ever ran into that kind of situation i would probably kill the man or at least want to beat him to within an inch of his life. i don't care what people get off on nowadays, sometimes moral relativity needs to get run over by the might-makes-right train.

heh, nobody's smooth. they're just bored. barring divine intervention, you just stop expecting to care, and thus stop caring.

[King Ghidra]

LOL! I think if you and I went out on the pull with our stuttering and panic attacks combined.......it would be just pure comedy.

:no:

:rofl:


We should do it, we'd totally suck.......get prince charming to record us in action

[KhanNoonienSingh]

ahem! :squint: K. N. Singh....you were supposed to say 'hiya' back.
y helo thar. :eyebrow:

what's up. how'd school go? :google: didja get hit by any other boring papers? :lol:

[Felonius Monk]

Nice guys still do pretty well. Like I was saying in the other thread, everyone who fails because he doesnt have stones blames it on his 'niceness' instead. A nice guy who wont approach a chick isnt going to get one, and niceness isn't the reason. Its not rocket science.

[King Ghidra]

i said this in a thread last night, but if i ever ran into that kind of situation i would probably kill the man or at least want to beat him to within an inch of his life. i don't care what people get off on nowadays, sometimes moral relativity needs to get run over by the might-makes-right train.

heh, nobody's smooth. they're just bored. barring divine intervention, you just stop expecting to care, and thus stop caring.

:werd:

I would actually kill the guy, there is no excuse to hit a woman, not ever.....:no:

I cannot stop caring......i'm a caring guy :gay:

[R.J]

:rofl:


We should do it, we'd totally suck.......get prince charming to record us in action

Prince Charming would suck as well he would get all shy around the women, you would talk about meatspin and sausage pizzas and I would be wearing my "I heart RJJr" T-shirt.....we are destined to flop! :no: I think this is why we would be better off going to some: gay: bar in Soho Central.

[...Hero...]

Prince Charming would suck as well he would get all shy around the women, you would talk about meatspin and sausage pizzas and I would be wearing my "I heart RJJr" T-shirt.....we are destined to flop! :no: I think this is why we would be better off going to some: gay: bar in Soho Central.

WHo is Prince Charming?

He sounds like a right sexy mother..f****!!!!

[KhanNoonienSingh]

Nice guys still do pretty well. Like I was saying in the other thread, everyone who fails because he doesnt have stones blames it on his 'niceness' instead. A nice guy who wont approach a chick isnt going to get one, and niceness isn't the reason. Its not rocket science.
:werd:

that's what i meant with this too:

rule of thumb for those playing the modren game: you wait around for them to grow up. giving them a chance for a real relationship while you're young. then when you're tired of waiting, just go get one and relax cuz you got it in the bag and have no responsibility to be anything more.

[King Ghidra]

Prince Charming would suck as well he would get all shy around the women, you would talk about meatspin and sausage pizzas and I would be wearing my "I heart RJJr" T-shirt.....we are destined to flop! :no: I think this is why we would be better off going to some: gay: bar in Soho Central.

:werd:

But we should do it, just for laughs.....see who is the worst....i am pathetic with women it actually works. :neutral:

[King Ghidra]

WHo is Prince Charming?

He sounds like a right sexy mother..f****!!!!

some dickweed..... ;)

[...Hero...]

some dickweed..... ;)

NOOO not what I heard, I wanna sex him up!

[King Ghidra]

NOOO not what I heard, I wanna sex him up!

Well it's the only action you'll ever get.

[HSB47]

what goes around comes around!!
i just try to do what i think is right regardless of where it will take me in life!!