Nice Guys versus Good Guys

[ShahQ]

I tried to make a Poll but it wouldn't work. :(

Which is better?

Not all Good Guys are Nice Guys. Not all Nice Guys are Good Guys. In fact many are Bad.

On the other hand being nice is a good trait. Is it a trait worth having? Something for advanced Good Guys or should you just be yourself? Is there room for improvement in people or are we fine the way we are?

:wavey:

I am of the opinion that being nice is now useless. You can never trust people so you might as well be yourself.

[Felonius Monk]

Be selectively nice.

[ShahQ]

Be selectively nice.
Is that honest or fair?

By the way, if people want to cite external moral influences feel free. I realize many people base such things off beliefs.

[Felonius Monk]

Is that honest or fair?

By the way, if people want to cite external moral influences feel free. I realize many people base such things off beliefs.
It may not be fair, but its honest.

[ShahQ]

It may not be fair, but its honest.
It is possible to be someone who isn't nice at all. Is it then honest to pretend to be nice even if selectively?

[EviLi]

Bad guy in a good mood.

[Felonius Monk]

It is possible to be someone who isn't nice at all. Is it then honest to pretend to be nice even if selectively?
I doubt anyone is capable of being completely un-nice. But yeah, pretending implies dishonesty.

[NeceSsary]

LOL nice guys ALWAYS finish last. !!!!!

[ShahQ]

LOL nice guys ALWAYS finish last. !!!!!
Word.

[Felonius Monk]

LOL nice guys ALWAYS finish last. !!!!!
If I wasn't nice I'd say pussies finish last. But i'm nice. ;)

[ShahQ]

If I wasn't nice I'd say pussies finish last. But i'm nice. ;)
That is exactly what I also thought. Nice is too often synonymous with cowardice.

[...Hero...]

NICE guys are the GOOD guys and the HEROES!

[sono_star]

NICE guys are the GOOD guys and the HEROES!
egzactly

[Felonius Monk]

That is exactly what I also thought. Nice is too often synonymous with cowardice.
My point was that cowards often describe themselves as nice.

[ShahQ]

NICE guys are the GOOD guys and the HEROES!
You sound like someone I know. :rolleyes:

[ShahQ]

My point was that cowards often describe themselves as nice.Everyone does to an extent. I'd like to think of myself as nice, but that is how I have always been. :wiggle:

[Adnan786]

someone needs to highlight and establish the differences between nice and good here. Its getting confusing for me.

[Foxy_Lay_D]

I like BadBoyz :dancen:

[ShahQ]

someone needs to highlight and establish the differences between nice and good here. Its getting confusing for me.
Perhaps manners versus morals? Its not a perfect analogy but it works. Being nice is obviously about more than just manners.

[ilyas@!!oops!!]

I tried to make a Poll but it wouldn't work. :(

Which is better?

Not all Good Guys are Nice Guys. Not all Nice Guys are Good Guys. In fact many are Bad.

On the other hand being nice is a good trait. Is it a trait worth having? Something for advanced Good Guys or should you just be yourself? Is there room for improvement in people or are we fine the way we are?

:wavey:

I am of the opinion that being nice is now useless. You can never trust people so you might as well be yourself.
u have be both.......plus be a bastard tooo........in this day and age!!!

[Parallax]

NIce guys do finish last. The secret (if we are talking women) is to be a little more aggressive/alpha to everyone except your girl where you let your guard down... they love that.

On the other hand, you get into that whole question of who you really are.. the alpha or the nice guy... and that gets tough to decide.

But the real problem with nice guys is that they are nice in the wrong situations. Being nice enough to let someone else seduce your g/f or the woman you like isn't being nice... it is being a pushover.

[Adnan786]

Perhaps manners versus morals? Its not a perfect analogy but it works. Being nice is obviously about more than just manners.

Hmm.....id go for the morals over manners, would that make me a nice or good guy?

[Adnan786]

NIce guys do finish last. The secret (if we are talking women) is to be a little more aggressive/alpha to everyone except your girl where you let your guard down... they love that.

On the other hand, you get into that whole question of who you really are.. the alpha or the nice guy... and that gets tough to decide.

But the real problem with nice guys is that they are nice in the wrong situations. Being nice enough to let someone else seduce your g/f or the woman you like isn't being nice... it is being a pushover.


Ive screwed that analogy up, i treat my special one like shit and everyone else better. Dont know why, comes naturally.

[selina_786]

Can't you just be yourself?

[x_xamzx_x]

nice guys....good guys...same thing really,isnt it?? :sarb:

[ShahQ]

nice guys....good guys...same thing really,isnt it?? :sarb:
A lot of people I know would consider George Bush to be a Good Guy but not a Nice Guy.

[Fake Desi Boy]

I like BadBoyz :dancen:
that's so trendy :rolleyes:

[selina_786]

that's so trendy :rolleyes:
Yea, just like trying to be someone you're not. Innit?

[KhanNoonienSingh]

the fuck is wrong with you all? can you guys listen to yourselves?

take a 5 year old and ask them if being nice is good :squint: all my posts on western society were useless, this thread does all my work for me.

yes being nice is GOOD. it is a GOOD trait. not all good guys have it, the 'more good' the guy, the nicer he'll be.

there's nothing existential about it. you KNEW that from a young age. you knew what nice was the moment yo mama saw you. you KNEW it was good.

how can a society lose something like that? i don't wanna know what makes you all doubt nice as soon as you see it. just because people pretend to be nice doesn't make nice BAD. that's like saying terrorists make islam bad. nice was around before and will be around after. fake nice? have you ever been to any country outside of the united states? :ugh: you'll be blown away by the 'niceness' you see and you're going to be suspicious of it, and that's a tragedy.

I'M A NICE GUY. and a good guy. you motherfuckers. and i'm gonna show you nice until you love it. you don't know my name, you don't know what i look like but i swear by whatever the hell it is you believe in, that one day "i" will break down your door, pull you out into the street and beat the nice back into you. mercifully beat the love of family, of life, of neighbor, of nature, of faith back into you. and your kids aren't going to say anything, they won't say "that's not nice" because they'll know better than you. this is going to happen. it is inevitable.

fake nice? you bitches have seen so much fake nice you forgot what real nice is all about and how much it hurts.

you will all lowe it.

[Felonius Monk]

^ See, nice and aggressive aren't mutually exclusive

[Felonius Monk]

Btw, in my earlier posts I had nice and good the other way around from how ShahQ defines them. Goodness is morality for me. Nice is just how you act.

[KhanNoonienSingh]

Btw, in my earlier posts I had nice and good the other way around from how ShahQ defines them. Goodness is morality for me. Nice is just how you act.
yeah, same for me. he should've asked people to mention what taught them what good or nice was.

i strongly believe in the consistency of character. inside matching outside and all that. and having a backbone. the world is a messy place and good guys might get dirty.

[p0rt_1337]

You are all twats....




...but Im nice.

:Paper:

[Felonius Monk]

yeah, same for me. he should've asked people to mention what taught them what good or nice was.

i strongly believe in the consistency of character. inside matching outside and all that. and having a backbone. the world is a messy place and good guys might get dirty.
Yeah, thats what I meant earlier when I said selectively nice. Sometimes nice and good become inconsistent. Good takes precedence.

[Pakidoll82]

ummm can't a guy be both??? nice guy and a good guy???

[KhanNoonienSingh]

nice people hug :grouphug:

for the guys: don't be afraid to be nice. not just 'a little nice', but as nice as you can be. as good as you can be. yes, its true. you won't get women. they couldn't tell nice from their own asses and i'm pretty sure they spend more time analyzing their own asses anyway. take one for the team. be a good guy, the world is in short supply. there's other things we're good for. bloodlust is also just as fun as normal lust, trust.

for the wimminz: if you're not nice, your babies are gonna grow up fucked up. yes. babies know if you're faking. and i don't wanna get too carried away, but in the long-term macro view of human history, i think it shows babies know good as well. maybe not bad, but they know good. and that will fuck them up too. being evil and happy won't get you much farther.

[ShahQ]

Stop turning my thread into your soapbox.

[A lil Crazy]

nice people hug :grouphug:

for the guys: don't be afraid to be nice. not just 'a little nice', but as nice as you can be. as good as you can be. yes, its true. you won't get women. they couldn't tell nice from their own asses and i'm pretty sure they spend more time analyzing their own asses anyway. take one for the team. be a good guy, the world is in short supply. there's other things we're good for. bloodlust is also just as fun as normal lust, trust.

for the wimminz: if you're not nice, your babies are gonna grow up fucked up. yes. babies know if you're faking. and i don't wanna get too carried away, but in the long-term macro view of human history, i think it shows babies know good as well. maybe not bad, but they know good. and that will fuck them up too. being evil and happy won't get you much farther.
:werd:

I completely agree.

Maybe if there were more good guys, girls would be able to differentiate between the assholes and the good, nice guys.

[KhanNoonienSingh]

:werd:

I completely agree.

Maybe if there were more good guys, girls would be able to differentiate between the assholes and the good, nice guys.
they already can babe, they can certainly differentiate me and my kind if i have one from what they want. :lol:

[A lil Crazy]

they already can babe, they can certainly differentiate me and my kind if i have one from what they want. :lol:
you're lucky I am fond of you.

animal :hand:


( im kidding dont kill me)

[Monica152]

bad bois r gud for boifriends(2 get ur freak on wit lol )
good guys r gud 4 serious relation ship (like marriage) :D

[TigerStyle786]

I tried to make a Poll but it wouldn't work. :(

Which is better?

Not all Good Guys are Nice Guys. Not all Nice Guys are Good Guys. In fact many are Bad.

On the other hand being nice is a good trait. Is it a trait worth having? Something for advanced Good Guys or should you just be yourself? Is there room for improvement in people or are we fine the way we are?

:wavey:

I am of the opinion that being nice is now useless. You can never trust people so you might as well be yourself.

what is ur defination of a "nice guy" and "good guy" both sound synonums to me...

Nobody is perfect we all have our goods n bads, mankind is created with a weak nature.

[KhanNoonienSingh]

what is ur defination of a "nice guy" and "good guy" both sound synonums to me...

Nobody is perfect we all have our goods n bads, mankind is created with a weak nature.
speak for yourself. i will settle for shortcomings, but not weaknesses.

[coconutty]

i'd like to meet a nice guy

[ShahQ]

Guys have personalities indepent that of women. Men can be nice for the sake of being nice, irregardless of what they will get out of it. This is being good.

Basically the charachter of person who lives in society is boiled in to 4 types of archetypes. I can't remember their names because it's almost 2 am. Here they are:

A man who goes through the door first without considering others. Not nice, being bad.
A man holds the door to let someone else in. Nice guy being good.
A man going through the door first to allow the proper flow of traffic. Not nice, but good.
A man who holds the door to stare at the woman's ass who passes through. Nice guy being bad.

[ShowMan]

nice people hug :grouphug:

for the guys: don't be afraid to be nice. not just 'a little nice', but as nice as you can be. as good as you can be. yes, its true. you won't get women. they couldn't tell nice from their own asses and i'm pretty sure they spend more time analyzing their own asses anyway. take one for the team. be a good guy, the world is in short supply. there's other things we're good for. bloodlust is also just as fun as normal lust, trust.

for the wimminz: if you're not nice, your babies are gonna grow up fucked up. yes. babies know if you're faking. and i don't wanna get too carried away, but in the long-term macro view of human history, i think it shows babies know good as well. maybe not bad, but they know good. and that will fuck them up too. being evil and happy won't get you much farther.

Wow ur brilliant

[ShowMan]

speak for yourself. i will settle for shortcomings, but not weaknesses.

wats shortcomings?

[Fake Desi Boy]

i'd like to meet a nice guy
:wavey:

[Fake Desi Boy]

ummm can't a guy be both??? nice guy and a good guy???
yup for sure. these are the one's who execute moral actions while having the knowledge that nothing will benefit them in the end results.

[KhanNoonienSingh]

yup for sure. these are the one's who execute moral actions while having the knowledge that nothing will benefit them in the end results.
dude, you know abed? :-s

[Fake Desi Boy]

dude, you know abed? :-s
hmm sounds familiar. from where? i know a amed