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BengaliJalsha
June 28th, 2006, 02:14 PM
The Boston Celtics are sleeping on one trade while they ponder the potential of a blockbuster deal later this summer involving Philadelphia's Allen Iverson, multiple sources said Tuesday night.

The Celtics have a deal where they can land Portland point guard Sebastian Telfair for the No. 7 pick and injured point guard Dan Dickau. The Celtics need to make this trade by 2 p.m. ET Wednesday to have the picks swapped before the draft. But the Celtics may want to wait to see which player falls to them at No. 7 -- like Washington's Brandon Roy or Gonzaga's Adam Morrison -- before making the trade Wednesday night.

But there is a larger trade hanging over the Celtics' head and the Boston brass has to decide if it wants to acquire Telfair when there is a chance they could land Iverson over the summer.

Boston and Philadelphia have been talking about an Iverson deal, as long as there is a third team involved. Sources said the third team was Utah with the player being Carlos Boozer, but that deal has been tabled. The Boston players involved were Al Jefferson, Gerald Green and Wally Szczerbiak.

Boston and Philadelphia are looking for a third team to see if the deal can be done and the latest team to enter the early talks is Cleveland. But there are contractual hang-ups about involving Drew Gooden in the deal at this stage. That could change in July, according to sources.

Still, the Celtics may make the Telfair trade and then see if Iverson can be done. Regardless, the Celtics will sleep on this decision and may wait until No. 7 is on the clock before making a call.

Andy Katz is a senior writer at ESPN.com.

BengaliJalsha
June 28th, 2006, 02:15 PM
AI & Pierce on the same team would be sick!

bigr0ck
June 28th, 2006, 02:16 PM
AI & Pierce on the same team would be sick!

wont work out. two ball hogs.

BengaliJalsha
June 28th, 2006, 02:16 PM
free agents

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/feature/featureIndex?page=nbafreeagency2006

mp3
June 28th, 2006, 02:17 PM
They win the SPL every season anyway

tamil_desi
June 28th, 2006, 02:18 PM
I think Boston would be wise to keep the pick instead of going for Telfair. Boston could end up with Foye or Morrison or maybe Rudy Gay. It's a deep draft!

tamil_desi
June 28th, 2006, 02:20 PM
wont work out. two ball hogs.

Neither of them are ball hogs. Have you seen there supporting casts? If Iverson had anything close to a supporting cast he would have averaged 12 assists a game. He averaged 7 last year. That's hella good for a guy scoring 30 points a night :rolleyes:

bigr0ck
June 28th, 2006, 02:21 PM
Neither of them are ball hogs. Have you seen there supporting casts? If Iverson had anything close to a supporting cast he would have averaged 12 assists a game. He averaged 7 last year. That's hella good for a guy scoring 30 points a night :rolleyes:

and taking 30 shots to do it. ball hog.

mp3
June 28th, 2006, 02:21 PM
Do you think it will be close with hearts or will be the old firm one two again

tamil_desi
June 28th, 2006, 02:24 PM
and taking 30 shots to do it. ball hog.

I wouldn't Chris Webber clean my toilets never mind take a clutch shot. Your misinformed about these players. Were you a crappy fringe player that got cut from your biddy basketball team? Because those are the type of people that typical call Iverson a ball hog.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/allen_iverson/index.html


7.4 assists per game :rolleyes:

desi_balla63
June 28th, 2006, 02:26 PM
Neither of them are ball hogs. Have you seen there supporting casts? If Iverson had anything close to a supporting cast he would have averaged 12 assists a game. He averaged 7 last year. That's hella good for a guy scoring 30 points a night :rolleyes:

You know why Iverson doesn't have a supporting cast?

Because no star player they bring in can play alongside his ball-hawking ass. Hughes couldn't fit in, Webber hasn't fit in, Stackhouse couldnt' fit in...there's a few more that don't come to midn right this minute...but you get the point.

tamil_desi
June 28th, 2006, 02:31 PM
You know why Iverson doesn't have a supporting cast?

Because no star player they bring in can play alongside his ball-hawking ass. Hughes couldn't fit in, Webber hasn't fit in, Stackhouse couldnt' fit in...there's a few more that don't come to midn right this minute...but you get the point.

Hughes was young at the time and wasn't the player he is now. By the way, he has one good year and you think Hughes is a star. Stack? Well Stack is a one on one player. Much like A.I. except he doesn't pass the ball. Webber? Please...he's not even an NBA player anymore. Don't bring him up.


Surround A.I. with a couple of shooters. You got Korver. Give him another 3 point sharp shooter and they would have a solid attack. If you haven't noticed. Defense is the Sixers problem. Didn't they lead the league in scoring?

bigr0ck
June 28th, 2006, 02:31 PM
I wouldn't Chris Webber clean my toilets never mind take a clutch shot. Your misinformed about these players. Were you a crappy fringe player that got cut from your biddy basketball team? Because those are the type of people that typical call Iverson a ball hog.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/allen_iverson/index.html


7.4 assists per game :rolleyes:

why you getting personal, dawg? I am just saying what I feel.

Aniq is definitely right. Noone wants to play with Iverson. The year sixers went to hte finals the east was wide open..every fucking team sucked ass. Iverson's team will never go the finals again. Write it down and i'll sign it.

tamil_desi
June 28th, 2006, 02:35 PM
why you getting personal, dawg? I am just saying what I feel.

Aniq is definitely right. Noone wants to play with Iverson. The year sixers went to hte finals the east was wide open..every fucking team sucked ass. Iverson's team will never go the finals again. Write it down and i'll sign it.

Sorry...I just get a little fired up when talking NBA. Listen...Iverson will never get anywhere with the Sixers. Management has done everything they can to screw up his talent. I like A.I., I think he's come a long way from that selfish, immature guy. He'll be traded and finish his career strong. Finals? Depends on what team he ends up on.

desi_balla63
June 28th, 2006, 02:37 PM
Hughes was young at the time and wasn't the player he is now. By the way, he has one good year and you think Hughes is a star. Stack? Well Stack is a one on one player. Much like A.I. except he doesn't pass the ball. Webber? Please...he's not even an NBA player anymore. Don't bring him up.


Surround A.I. with a couple of shooters. You got Korver. Give him another 3 point sharp shooter and they would have a solid attack. If you haven't noticed. Defense is the Sixers problem. Didn't they lead the league in scoring?

Hughes was solid, he is solid, he will be solid. Don't try to downplay him just to make your point. Most people agree the Lebron/Hughes backcourt is going to be similar to a Jordan/Pippen type backcourt for many years to come.

Webber doesn't belong in the league anymore? Damn, I guess that says something about your front office for bringing him in.

As for the Sixers problem, it's not just defense. Dalembert has turned into a stiff, Korver started to choke in important games, and you're not bringing your young players along like you should be.




Don't get mad at me cuz the Sixers suck and wont' ever win with AI as there best player. :p Like Rock said, the year they did make it everything went right, and they had the right supporting cast and coach, and the East flatout sucked...and they barely made it to the finals and got there asses kicked. I don't see them getting back anytime within the next 5 years. Possibly 10.

desi_balla63
June 28th, 2006, 02:39 PM
Btw

What in the fuck are they thinking trying to trade for Telfair? Have they been watching something I missed? Telfair is like a shorter version of a Tony Parker without the ability to get to the rim and finish and with a worse jumper than TP, and that's saying something.

TaCoMaStUd
June 28th, 2006, 02:40 PM
iverson was a huge ball hog back in the day, but now i dont know, i will be honest i didn't get a chance to watch allot of sixer games, but his assist avg went up, so i'm assuming he's maturing and taking up less shots?

tamil_desi
June 28th, 2006, 02:42 PM
Hughes was solid, he is solid, he will be solid. Don't try to downplay him just to make your point. Most people agree the Lebron/Hughes backcourt is going to be similar to a Jordan/Pippen type backcourt for many years to come.

Webber doesn't belong in the league anymore? Damn, I guess that says something about your front office for bringing him in.

As for the Sixers problem, it's not just defense. Dalembert has turned into a stiff, Korver started to choke in important games, and you're not bringing your young players along like you should be.




Don't get mad at me cuz the Sixers suck and wont' ever win with AI as there best player. :p Like Rock said, the year they did make it everything went right, and they had the right supporting cast and coach, and the East flatout sucked...and they barely made it to the finals and got there asses kicked. I don't see them getting back anytime within the next 5 years. Possibly 10.


I'm a Bulls fan and an NBA afficienado! :p Well...I believe the Hughes/Pippen thing when he gets Healthy and I can see it. Korver I think is pretty clutch. He doesn't get the ball after a while though. Iguadala can be a GREAT player, it's up to him. Dalembert I like still. I think the Sixers need to get another big fan and have Dalembert be a weak side defender and he'll would be a block machine!

tamil_desi
June 28th, 2006, 02:42 PM
Btw

What in the fuck are they thinking trying to trade for Telfair? Have they been watching something I missed? Telfair is like a shorter version of a Tony Parker without the ability to get to the rim and finish and with a worse jumper than TP, and that's saying something.

cmon...is Telfair THAT good? I didn't watch many Blazer games.

desi_balla63
June 28th, 2006, 02:44 PM
iverson was a huge ball hog back in the day, but now i dont know, i will be honest i didn't get a chance to watch allot of sixer games, but his assist avg went up, so i'm assuming he's maturing and taking up less shots?
His assists this year were down from last year.

They were identical to his rookie year, actually. His Assists per game have always been right around 7, never really varied much over/under.


http://www.nba.com/playerfile/allen_iverson/index.html?nav=page

TaCoMaStUd
June 28th, 2006, 02:44 PM
Hughes was solid, he is solid, he will be solid. Don't try to downplay him just to make your point. Most people agree the Lebron/Hughes backcourt is going to be similar to a Jordan/Pippen type backcourt for many years to come.

Webber doesn't belong in the league anymore? Damn, I guess that says something about your front office for bringing him in.

As for the Sixers problem, it's not just defense. Dalembert has turned into a stiff, Korver started to choke in important games, and you're not bringing your young players along like you should be.




Don't get mad at me cuz the Sixers suck and wont' ever win with AI as there best player. :p Like Rock said, the year they did make it everything went right, and they had the right supporting cast and coach, and the East flatout sucked...and they barely made it to the finals and got there asses kicked. I don't see them getting back anytime within the next 5 years. Possibly 10.

did you mean combo instead of backcourt? :lol: because pippen was a small fwd aniq!

desi_balla63
June 28th, 2006, 02:46 PM
did you mean combo instead of backcourt? :lol: because pippen was a small fwd aniq!
Way to split hairs.

TaCoMaStUd
June 28th, 2006, 02:47 PM
His assists this year were down from last year.

They were identical to his rookie year, actually. His Assists per game have always been right around 7, never really varied much over/under.


http://www.nba.com/playerfile/allen_iverson/index.html?nav=page

lol wow, i was readin his stats, his 1st 2 years he was avg 1450 FG att

but after those years when he has played a full season he's been avg over 1900 fg att :rofl:

BengaliJalsha
June 28th, 2006, 05:32 PM
Sources: Celtics acquire Blazers' Telfair

NEW YORK -- The Boston Celtics acquired second-year Portland Trail Blazers point guard Sebastian Telfair for the No. 7 pick in Wednesday's NBA draft, as well as one or two other players, multiple sources told ESPN.com.

Sebastian Telfair
Point Guard
Portland Trail Blazers

Profile
2006 SEASON STATISTICS
GM PPG RPG APG FG% FT%
68 9.5 1.8 3.6 .394 .743

The trade was agreed upon Wednesday afternoon but it came after the 2 p.m. ET deadline which means the Celtics will still be on the clock, selecting for the Blazers, when the No. 7 pick comes up during the draft.

Portland will pick at No. 4 and No. 7, barring any more trades.

One of the players from the Celtics could be injured point Dan Dickau (Achilles), but that wasn't confirmed as of Wednesday.

Boston has been searching for a true point guard and wasn't overwhelmed by the choices that it may have at No. 7. The Celtics worked out Connecticut's Marcus Williams, Kentucky's Rajon Rondo and Villanova's Randy Foye on Monday. All three could be available at No. 7. But the Celtics brass decided that Telfair, two years into the league, was better suited for the Celtics' system at this juncture in his career.

Danny Ainge, the director of basketball operations, looked at Telfair's first eight games -- 12.6 points, shooting 45.7 percent, 42.3 percent on 3s as well as four assists a game -- as the indicator of his ability. Telfair hurt his thumb after that and was out for an extended period of time. He lost the starting point guard position during his absence to Steve Blake and Jarrett Jack. He finished averaging 9.5 points, 3.6 assists and shot 39.4 percent in 68 games. Telfair was the No. 13 pick for the Blazers in 2004 out of Lincoln High in New York.

In his two years he averaged a combined 8.1 points, 3.5 assists and shot 39.4 percent.

This deal allows the Celtics to play Delonte West more as an off guard with Telfair as a natural point.

This trade won't deter the Celtics from still pursuing Philadelphia's Allen Iverson in a summer deal that is still very much alive with a third team still to be determined.

Andy Katz is a senior writer at ESPN.com.

BengaliJalsha
June 28th, 2006, 05:38 PM
Celtics Got Telfair But Will Still Be After Iverson

BengaliJalsha
June 28th, 2006, 05:38 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/index?&lpos=globalnav&lid=gn_NBA_NBA