Muslims

[badmAN_asiAN]

i was just wondering how many of you pray 5 times a day? ive started reading namaaz 5 times a day and honestly i feel more 'fresh' and 'peaceful'. honestly i can feel the difference it makes and inshallah i can keep doing this for as long as possible. i mean for us youths these days hardly anyone prays or reads the qu'ran.

religion besides i even know a few bengalis who cant even speak their own language, too westernised. yer its good because times are changin but u still need to remember your roots

[in*no*sense]

MashAllah that's really good.

I read one namaaz today after quite *ahem* a long while. Only zuhr namaaz. :ashamed:

I did feel at peace in a way. InshAllah I hope to read 5 times a day like I used to.

[badmAN_asiAN]

when it comes to a topic bout religion i guess everyone avoids it......shame

[in*no*sense]

Maybe they're reading other threads and haven't seen this one yet. :dunno:

[craze*e]

i use 2 read 4 times a day, recently i havent been reading namaaz at all, gonna start again tho inshallah

[bash_mg]

thats really good bro i have to say i miss alot of my namaz but never miss jumah inshallah i shall also pray 5 times a day

[badmAN_asiAN]

i use 2 read 4 times a day, recently i havent been reading namaaz at all, gonna start again tho inshallah
i no its hard for girls coz they have their period which prevents them. but its good. i mean ive only started readin properly the last few days after a bit of forcing from my mum but now im happy doing it.

[badmAN_asiAN]

thats really good bro i have to say i miss alot of my namaz but never miss jumah inshallah i shall also pray 5 times a day
i cant go to jumma because of skool but wen i dont have skool i make sure i go. but i slipped a disk in my back recently so i cant pray normally, at the moment im doing namaaz sitting down

[bash_mg]

its all gd aslong as you praying the best way u can

[badmAN_asiAN]

its all gd aslong as you praying the best way u can
true true.... man in a few years time ramadan is gonna be during the summer!! sooo many hours to wait and plus its going to be hot

[bash_mg]

yea but thats part of ramadan init tests yourself

[kk346]

Im not Muslim but honestly I feel that no matter what religion u are u should do sumthing like that. for Muslims its Namaz for hindus its listen to bhajans or read the Gita. But thats gud yo therrs very few of us kids who actually do these religous things, many teens find it uncool to perform religous things!

[x baby bably x]

i was just wondering how many of you pray 5 times a day? ive started reading namaaz 5 times a day and honestly i feel more 'fresh' and 'peaceful'. honestly i can feel the difference it makes and inshallah i can keep doing this for as long as possible. i mean for us youths these days hardly anyone prays or reads the qu'ran. i even know a few bengalis who cant even speak it.when you say can`t speak it? you mean can`t recite the quran and stuff? wait. they must be able to say something though. how do they do their namaaz when they do actually do it?

:|

[badmAN_asiAN]

i was talking about the bengali language, i no its a bit confusing let me edit it

[Mz_Newyawk]

i used to pray and read quran regularly b4
but no more :no:
i really would like to strt prying again!!

[desi_girl2006]

pssshhttt....ya read namaaz and then go fuck off on rd...what GREAT muslims u guys are. LOL..jk jk ...but i really dont approve...btw...if anyone says im being a hypocrite...well im not cause i dont have a pic...and i dont fuck off lol

[badmAN_asiAN]

pssshhttt....ya read namaaz and then go fuck off on rd...what GREAT muslims u guys are. LOL..jk jk ...but i really dont approve...btw...if anyone says im being a hypocrite...well im not cause i dont have a pic...and i dont fuck off lol
rate desi is just having a laugh realy. and yer on the forums its nice to chat bout things u like or just debate.

[class_of_my_own]

i think this is a gud topic. im finding it hard at d moment 2 do my prayers, even though i knw i shud, but inshallah i will find it much easier!!! wat does everyone else think?

[badmAN_asiAN]

i think this is a gud topic. im finding it hard at d moment 2 do my prayers, even though i knw i shud, but inshallah i will find it much easier!!! wat does everyone else think?
after my mum forced me a little bit (well alot!) i started getting used to it and its just built into my lifestyle. once u get used to it then ther should be no problem

[ziggazag]

NOT only Bengali are westernized, here some examples of paki women going wild:

1-got married to a sikh( w/o teaching, converting or exposing him to islam)NJ

2- married a gora( eventhough he might become muslim soon)NY

3- Left her husband and hooked up with some mexican.TX

I HAVE NOTHING AGAIN ANY OF THE ABOVE NATIONALITIES BUT HOW ABOUT THE CHILDREN? DON'T THESE GIRL EVER THINK ABOUT WHAT THEIR RELIGIOUS DUTIES ARE???? I MEAN I VERY MODERATE BUT I CAN NOT DO THAT!

[class_of_my_own]

thats true,badman_asian, i reckon its easier if u have someone encouraging u.i used to do most my prayers a while ago but got out of the habit,gota get back in2 it! i think it also helps if ur m8s also pray, coz ur more likely 2 then aswel

[ziggazag]

I want my kids to grow up in Pakistan or at least be there till they are sixteen.

[class_of_my_own]

nah pakistani society is corrupt. they are more in2 their culture than religion

[shamera]

3 times a day.

[Waky]

I want my kids to grow up in Pakistan or at least be there till they are sixteen.
if a was a bettin man id put ma money on them cumin bak pretty much wurse off.

[ziggazag]

if a was a bettin man id put ma money on them cumin bak pretty much wurse off.

Not if they grow up in where i come from man. PS if not being able to earn a scholarship after graduation is worse off then be it!

[class_of_my_own]

where do u come from?

[Waky]

a was gunna say it ultimatly depends on where ur from....im from a village an wen a go bak theres still a sense of culture....wen u hear the azaan the majority of people do go to the mosque....but in the cities its a fst paced life...now more recently wen a went to pakistan....a saw the same thing happenin in the villages...hus to say in 10 - 20 years the same thing happens to wats happened in the cities....?

again am generalizin ..... a agree not all places r the same.....

[class_of_my_own]

my cousins from lahore and she wears headscarf, she saying that not many girls there do. they were surprised that she does, especially as shes a 'british' also the society is getting more obsessed with plastic surgery, etc which can be seen by billboards everywhere. so i persoanlly wouldnt live in the country.

[dj XeNo]

i usually pray once or twice a day

[MuSkAaN~786]

1-i pray 4 times a day on time. i alwayz miss zuhur tho cuz i'm at skool =/
2-i read the Quran every morning b4 leaving for skool
3-i speak urdu fluently...and i'm planning to improve my reading and writing in urdu this summer
4-i fast during ramadan
5-basically, i really try to keep in touch with my religion :)

[dj XeNo]

1-i pray 4 times a day on time. i alwayz miss zuhur tho cuz i'm at skool =/
2-i read the Quran every morning b4 leaving for skool
3-i speak urdu fluently...and i'm planning to improve my reading and writing in urdu this summer
4-i fast during ramadan
5-basically, i really try to keep in touch with my religion :)

that's very admirable :cool:

can you recite 5:69 for me? ;)

[ziggazag]

a was gunna say it ultimatly depends on where ur from....im from a village an wen a go bak theres still a sense of culture....wen u hear the azaan the majority of people do go to the mosque....but in the cities its a fst paced life...now more recently wen a went to pakistan....a saw the same thing happenin in the villages...hus to say in 10 - 20 years the same thing happens to wats happened in the cities....?

again am generalizin ..... a agree not all places r the same.....

yeah bro, i mean there are good and bad everywhere but i am from DIR, you proly need a map or you'd have to google it to locate it! but very very strict.

[ziggazag]

1-i pray 4 times a day on time. i alwayz miss zuhur tho cuz i'm at skool =/
2-i read the Quran every morning b4 leaving for skool
3-i speak urdu fluently...and i'm planning to improve my reading and writing in urdu this summer
4-i fast during ramadan
5-basically, i really try to keep in touch with my religion :)

I AM PROUD OF YOU, THATS NOT SRCASAM I REALLY MEANT IT.

[MuSkAaN~786]

that's very admirable :cool:

can you recite 5:69 for me? ;)

thankz =)
aw man, i'll have to look in the Quran. i dont have it memorized lol. it would be cool if i did. to those pplz who memorize the Quran by heart... :salut:

[MuSkAaN~786]

I AM PROUD OF YOU, THATS NOT SRCASAM I REALLY MEANT IT.

aww thank u :D

[MolviCorleone]

im on off.its really hard to read all 5 all the time.

not making excuses

but fajr and magrib are hard to miss, just something diff about sunrise and sunset.

[ziggazag]

my cousins from lahore and she wears headscarf, she saying that not many girls there do. they were surprised that she does, especially as shes a 'british' also the society is getting more obsessed with plastic surgery, etc which can be seen by billboards everywhere. so i persoanlly wouldnt live in the country.

Lahore is like the Las Vegas of Pakistan! The sucky lollywood is there too.

[ziggazag]

thankz =)
aw man, i'll have to look in the Quran. i dont have it memorized lol. it would be cool if i did. to those pplz who memorize the Quran by heart... :salut:
my lil sis who lives in pak has it memorized i am proud of her too! she is only 16. MASHALLAH.

[MuSkAaN~786]

my lil sis who lives in pak has it memorized i am proud of her too! she is only 16. MASHALLAH.

wow Mashallah :)

[ziggazag]

im on off.its really hard to read all 5 all the time.

not making excuses

but fajr and magrib are hard to miss, just something diff about sunrise and sunset.
YOU ARE right, in America or other western countries we worry so much about food and luxury that we forget about the provider(ALLAH), we get up early for school, interviews and work but not for Fajar namaz.

[badmanzee32]

yeah alhamdiuallah ive been reading 5x times namaz for a GOOD few years now and mostly with jammat in the mosque and alhamdiuallah Fajr'z as well =p

[dj XeNo]

uncle sam makes it so hard to pray 5x a day

[SwordMujahid]

We have to make this kind of thing a habit, but sometimes it's difficult at times. For me, the most difficult part of going to pray is going to do Wudhu, because I always feel as if something is preventing me and I just can't do it, but now I just do it. Remember, Shaitan doesn't want good for you at all, we should all try to atleast pray namaz even if it is difficult at times because there's a lot of Barakah and benefits in it, trust me. Allah wanted us to pray 50 times a day, just imagine and so the prophet Muhammad (SAW) knew that his ummah (which is us) couldn't handle it so he kept on begging to reduce the number of times to pray, and so then it got reduced to 5. Alhamdulilah, look how Merciful Allah (SWT) is... If I'm not mistaken, Allah (SWT) said to the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) that "If one of your followers prays 5 times a day, it will be considered as if they prayed 50" Like WOW... I actually don't know the exact thing, but this is true... Correct me if I'm wrong Bros and Sis'.

[obsessed]

i pray 4 times a day..i know itz not enuff but still better than nothin..i try to pray 5 times a day but cant get up that early for fajr :mad:

[iffy_2007]

hmm... May Allah Help Us All To improve our imaan and our prayers.... My Namaz goes though parterns....... its wierd.... because i get my "holy" days...... Wen i read namaz full n feel amazing.... then after like 1 or 2 weeks i stop ..... completely dnt no how when or why but jus do.... its tru wen u do read namaz it effects ur life style in a much Positive way.. its brightens ur day.... it jus make u feel amazing! my dad said... if u read namaz for 40 days straight yeh.. u cant stop after that... naturally u cant stop u will feel that u HAVE 2 do it n if u do miss it out u will feel soo bad ...
inshallah im goin 2 start again.... n for everyone whos at school on juma n cnt pray jumma due 2 school... the school let u of for friday prayer... our school has got a "Mosque Pass" which allows any muslim miss school for friday prayer... and im sure if u ask ur Headteacher they will let u of to pray juma , its thier duty.. just as in work ... managers HAVE to let u take a break to pray its in one of the Law.... nways Allah Giv us strengh! Allah Hu Akhbar (Allah Is Gr8)

[iffy_2007]

i pray 4 times a day..i know itz not enuff but still better than nothin..i try to pray 5 times a day but cant get up that early for fajr :mad:

waking up for Fajr is JIHAD! defeating the devil.... the reward for Fajr Namaz is Countless!! It IS hard to wake up early but once u Wake up its easy... 1 word of advice..... b4 goin of 2 bed do dua that u wake up for Fajr namaz n inshallah u will.... :)

[iffy_2007]

my lil sis who lives in pak has it memorized i am proud of her too! she is only 16. MASHALLAH.

Mashallah! Very nice!!! I think its hadith not sure...... but who every becomes Hifiz (Memorizez Quran by Heart) Gets a place in junnat and gets 2 take either 10 members (or 10 familys not sure) to junnat with them ...... Mashallah!

[mr ajnabi]

i was just wondering how many of you pray 5 times a day? ive started reading namaaz 5 times a day and honestly i feel more 'fresh' and 'peaceful'. honestly i can feel the difference it makes and inshallah i can keep doing this for as long as possible. i mean for us youths these days hardly anyone prays or reads the qu'ran.

religion besides i even know a few bengalis who cant even speak their own language, too westernised. yer its good because times are changin but u still need to remember your roots


:love: Welcome to reality

welcome to the truth ... you were a muslim living by the word ...

Now You are a muslim living by the meaning

You were a muslim in struggle Now you are a muslim seeking love joy and peace ...

Proud to have brothers like you who make that move and i mean that from the heart .

*** CONGRATULATIONS BROTHER *** :applause:

[mr ajnabi]

thats really good bro i have to say i miss alot of my namaz but never miss jumah inshallah i shall also pray 5 times a day


Did you know in Islam making a ateention* in your mind counta as a big reward ??

Best of luck .

[mr ajnabi]

when it comes to a topic bout religion i guess everyone avoids it......shame


Least when people like you when they face the angels to answer questions ...

you can say ....


I was not 1 of them Allah ' Amongst those selfish People who lived their life and ignored you ' when you gave me it ' ...

:D Your a proud man now ... live like 1 and you face more duties Insha allah you will be aware of them as you continue your life.

[SwordMujahid]

Fajr is so hard... I use to pray at the right time, but now when my alarm goes off I just shut it off and go back to sleep. This time.. I'll try to make an effort to pray Fajr in the right time. I'm always open to gain some Ilm of Islam because I love this kind of knowledge.

[mr ajnabi]

1-i pray 4 times a day on time. i alwayz miss zuhur tho cuz i'm at skool =/
2-i read the Quran every morning b4 leaving for skool
3-i speak urdu fluently...and i'm planning to improve my reading and writing in urdu this summer
4-i fast during ramadan
5-basically, i really try to keep in touch with my religion :)

Aaah another person who deserves a pat on the vback.

:o

well done and God bless.

[mr ajnabi]

hmm... May Allah Help Us All To improve our imaan and our prayers.... My Namaz goes though parterns....... its wierd.... because i get my "holy" days...... Wen i read namaz full n feel amazing.... then after like 1 or 2 weeks i stop ..... completely dnt no how when or why but jus do.... its tru wen u do read namaz it effects ur life style in a much Positive way.. its brightens ur day.... it jus make u feel amazing! my dad said... if u read namaz for 40 days straight yeh.. u cant stop after that... naturally u cant stop u will feel that u HAVE 2 do it n if u do miss it out u will feel soo bad ...
inshallah im goin 2 start again.... n for everyone whos at school on juma n cnt pray jumma due 2 school... the school let u of for friday prayer... our school has got a "Mosque Pass" which allows any muslim miss school for friday prayer... and im sure if u ask ur Headteacher they will let u of to pray juma , its thier duty.. just as in work ... managers HAVE to let u take a break to pray its in one of the Law.... nways Allah Giv us strengh! Allah Hu Akhbar (Allah Is Gr8)

Ameen. :love:

YOu bring a smile on my face and a touch of hapiness.

[mr ajnabi]

We have to make this kind of thing a habit, but sometimes it's difficult at times. For me, the most difficult part of going to pray is going to do Wudhu, because I always feel as if something is preventing me and I just can't do it, but now I just do it. Remember, Shaitan doesn't want good for you at all, we should all try to atleast pray namaz even if it is difficult at times because there's a lot of Barakah and benefits in it, trust me. Allah wanted us to pray 50 times a day, just imagine and so the prophet Muhammad (SAW) knew that his ummah (which is us) couldn't handle it so he kept on begging to reduce the number of times to pray, and so then it got reduced to 5. Alhamdulilah, look how Merciful Allah (SWT) is... If I'm not mistaken, Allah (SWT) said to the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) that "If one of your followers prays 5 times a day, it will be considered as if they prayed 50" Like WOW... I actually don't know the exact thing, but this is true... Correct me if I'm wrong Bros and Sis'.

Correct ' you are right no doubt i support what u said there .

sub han allah.

:D

[SwordMujahid]

Everytime I finish praying Namaz, doing Zikr, and making Du'a, I feel as if I accomplished something major... It's this feeling that is unexplainable..

[SwordMujahid]

Brothers/Sisters, read this... This story is so inspirational!


He remembered his grandmother's warning about praying on time: "My son, you shouldn't leave prayer to this late time". His grandmother's age was 70 but whenever she heard the adhan, she got up like an arrow and performed salah. He however could never win over his ego to get up and pray. Whatever he did, his salah was always the last to be offered and he prayed it quickly to get it in on time.

Thinking of this, he got up and realized that there were only 15 minutes left before Salat-ul Isha. He quickly made wudhu and performed Salat-ul Maghrib.
While making tasbeeh, he again remembered his grandmother and was embarrassed by how he had prayed. His grandmother prayed with such tranquillity and
peace. He began making dua and went down to make sajdah and stayed like that for a while. He had been at school all day and was tired, so tired.
He awoke abruptly to the sound of noise and shouting. He was sweating profusely. He looked around. It was very crowded. Every direction he looked in was filled with
people. Some stood frozen looking around, some were running left and right and some were on their knees with their heads in their hands just waiting. Pure fear and apprehension filled him as he realized where he was. His heart was about to burst.

It was the Day of Judgement.

When he was alive, he had heard many things about the questioning on the Day of Judgement, but that seemed so long ago. Could this be something his mind made up?
No, the wait and the fear were so great that he could not have imagined this. The interrogation was still going on. He began moving frantically from people to people to ask if his name had been called.

No one could answer him. All of a sudden his name was called and the crowd split into two and made a passageway for him. Two people grabbed his arms and led him forward. He walked with unknowing eyes through the crowd. The angels brought him to the centre and left him there. His head was bent down and his whole life was passing in front of his eyes like a movie.

He opened his eyes but saw only another world. The people were all helping others. He saw his father running from one lecture to the other, spending his wealth in the way of Islam. His mother invited guests to their house and one table was being set while the other was being cleared. He pleaded his case, "I too was always on this path. I helped others. I spread the word of Allah. I performed my salah. I fasted in the month of Ramadan. Whatever Allah ordered us to do, I did. Whatever he ordered us not to do, I did not." He began to cry and think about how much he loved Allah. He knew that whatever he had done in life would be less than what Allah deserved and his only protector was Allah. He was sweating like never before and was shaking all over. His eyes were fixed on the scale, waiting for the final decision.
At last, the decision was made.
The two angels with sheets of paper in their hands turned to the crowd.
His legs felt like they were going to collapse.
He closed his eyes as they began to read the names of those people who were to enter Jahannam.

His name was read first.
He fell on his knees and yelled that this couldn't be, "How could I go to
Jahannam? I served others all my life; I spread the word of Allah to others".

His eyes had become blurry and he was shaking with sweat.
The two angels took him by the arms. As his feet dragged, they went through the crowd and advanced toward the blazing flames of Jahannam.
He was yelling and wondered if there was any person who was going to help him. He was yelling of all the good deeds he had done, how he had helped his father, his fasts,
prayers, the Qur'an that he read, he was asking if any of them would help him.
The Jahannam angels continued to drag him. They had gotten closer to the
Hellfire. He looked back and these were his last pleas.

Had not Rasulullah [saw] said, "How clean would a person be who bathes in a river five times a day, so too does the Salah performed five times cleanse someone of their sins"? He began yelling, "My prayers? My prayers? My prayers." The two angels did
not stop, and they came to the edge of the abyss of Jahannam.
The flames of the fire were burning his face. He looked back one last time, but his eyes were dry of hope and he had nothing left in him.
One of the angels pushed him in. He found himself in the air and falling towards the flames.

He had just fallen five or six feet when a hand grabbed him by the arm and pulled him back.
He lifted his head and saw an old man with a long white beard.
He wiped some dust off himself and asked him, "Who are you?" The old man replied, "I am your prayers".
"Why are you so late! I was almost in the Fire! You rescued me at the last minute before I fell in".
The old man smiled and shook his head, "You always performed me at the last minute, did you forget?"

At that instant, he blinked and lifted his head from sajdah. He was in a sweat. He listened to the voices coming from outside. He heard the adhan for Salat-ul Isha.
He got up quickly and went to perform wudhu.

[mr ajnabi]

Everytime I finish praying Namaz, doing Zikr, and making Du'a, I feel as if I accomplished something major... It's this feeling that is unexplainable..


:( That a sign of a true believer .

Respect keep it up !

*** Brothers and sisters in Uk ***

If you read this its time for Fajar nemaaz*

You can sit there im not stopping you ' but please take only 5-10 minutes of your life time thanking Allah for another day.

:wavey:

[SwordMujahid]

*Read story up there please, so gooood!*

[mr ajnabi]

*Read story up there please, so gooood!*

Yes its good.

But in life you can only follow the truth which is the qur'aan and the hadith/sunnah.

If you can quote it from them then you will convince many .

Stories just like the 1 above have been sent in e-mails or some claim to hear in masjid these we can smile along with but cannot have firm belief in because there is no hard based evidence .

The story which you posted is intresting and beautiful ' and yes i have read it before , i see a great meaning to that.

:o

[iffy_2007]

Mashallah Im Seeing Good Response to this thread Mashallah!... It Is time for Fajr....... another sayin comes in2 mind..... Who Every reads fajr every single day..... there face will b White on the day of judgement..... another sayin loll...... The Holy Prophet Muhammad (PbUh) Said..."Who Ever Recites Ayat-ul-Kursi once after fajr prayer there will b Nuthing Between Him And Junnat Accept Death!" Mashallah........!!!! brother n sister.... if we do not improve and strenghtn out imaan then we are doomed..... The Signs of qayamat is coming day by day...... Yet out sins increase day by day...... all im sayin is jus try n make a effort n remember Shaytan Allways wants the worst of u ..... He is the one who turns off ur alarms and forces u sleep wen fajr is due, he is the one who makes us miss prayers and make us forget the quran.... to b successfull in this world yeh u dnt need a degree or a huge bank balance all u need is Strong Belief and Imaan.... let me finish of with a Hadith....... oh man ive jus forgot it.......serious! damn lol....... i think it was the devil who jus made is forget it lolzz nways wen i get it ill post it up... soz for writing an essay! ;)

[mr ajnabi]

Fajr is so hard... I use to pray at the right time, but now when my alarm goes off I just shut it off and go back to sleep. This time.. I'll try to make an effort to pray Fajr in the right time. I'm always open to gain some Ilm of Islam because I love this kind of knowledge.

Stick around ... :rolleyes:

:wavey:

[iffy_2007]

ohhh ive rememberd it ......

The Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) Said, "The most intelligent Person is one whom is prepared for Death" (its not the exact wordin but its along these lines) Allah Hafiz :D

[SwordMujahid]

You know... before I wasn't even scared of Qiyamah and I use to pray 4-5 times a day, but anyways, when I heard how it's going to be like... THEN it entered me and I got kind of scared. I mean just imagine! You won't care about any of your loved ones, friends family etc. Because on that Day you will be caring about NO ONE, but yourself... People will be drowning in their sweats, the sun will be close to our heads, the Pool Siraat... People will cross it like lightning, people will cross it as fast as wind if I'm not mistaken and so etc. I mean brother and sisters, keep this in mind because the signs of Qiyamah will be happening directly at your face...

[mr ajnabi]

Mashallah Im Seeing Good Response to this thread Mashallah!... It Is time for Fajr....... another sayin comes in2 mind..... Who Every reads fajr every single day..... there face will b White on the day of judgement..... another sayin loll...... The Holy Prophet Muhammad (PbUh) Said..."Who Ever Recites Ayat-ul-Kursi once after fajr prayer there will b Nuthing Between Him And Junnat Accept Death!" Mashallah........!!!! brother n sister.... if we do not improve and strenghtn out imaan then we are doomed..... The Signs of qayamat is coming day by day...... Yet out sins increase day by day...... all im sayin is jus try n make a effort n remember Shaytan Allways wants the worst of u ..... He is the one who turns off ur alarms and forces u sleep wen fajr is due, he is the one who makes us miss prayers and make us forget the quran.... to b successfull in this world yeh u dnt need a degree or a huge bank balance all u need is Strong Belief and Imaan.... let me finish of with a Hadith....... oh man ive jus forgot it.......serious! damn lol....... i think it was the devil who jus made is forget it lolzz nways wen i get it ill post it up... soz for writing an essay! ;)


sozz for writing a essay ???

I wanted 10 essays :(

And wow just learnt sum new stuff there and as for the devil.

*^%^%$%^$% HIM' sorry i hate im .

Beware of the devil ' everytime you gain Islam Knowlege he will attack you and sometimes silly stuff happenS like for this thread for instance he will get many of you away from it ...

'' Oh you so and so ' you dont want to enter the religion thread ' go to the one where it says sex or check the girls out ' thats way fun ... ooohh '

I hate the fooker ' he deludes the muslim ummah ' Allahs enemy no.1 ' and his making us look silly ' But if we hold firm belief in Allah and his words ' the idiot cant do nothing .

Also i want to type this ...

HAHA DEVIL IF YOUR AROUND WITH US ' OR IN THIS SYSTEM ' YOUR A FOOOL BECAUSE ISLAM IS GREAT AND YOU WILL NEVER WIN AGAINST ALLAH .

TAKBEER : ALLLAH HU AKHBAR !

:neutral:

[SwordMujahid]

For some people, it's really hard to fight Shaitan... and we ALL sin. There is no one in this world who doesn't sin.. We all do it. Allah (S.W.T) tests us in many ways and however he likes. For the Muslims who are facing hardship in their lives, it says that after every hardship there is relief.

[SwordMujahid]

I think this would be a good read....

Some sayings of the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) about:
Mother: "Paradise lies at the feet of your mother." (Nasa'i)
Father: "A father's pleasure is Allah's pleasure, a father's displeasure is the displeasure of Allah." (Tirmidhi)
Guests: "He who believes in Allah and the Last Day should honor his guest." (Bukhari)
Neighbors: "By Allah, he has no faith, he has no faith, he has no faith, whose neighbours are not safe from his wickedness." (Bukhari)
Modesty: "Modesty is part of faith." (Bukhari and Muslim)
Charity: "Removing harmful things from a road is charity." (Bukhari)
Learning: "The best of you is he who learnt the Qur'an and then taught it." (Bukhari)
Knowledge: "The seeking of knowledge is a must for every Muslim male and female." (Mishkat)
Kindness: "Allah is not kind to him who is not kind to people." (Bukhari & Muslim)
Thankfulness: "He who does not thank people does not thank Allah." (Tirmidhi)
Visiting the Sick: "Visit the sick, feed the hungry and free the captives." (Bukhari)

[iffy_2007]

bro i'll tell u one last thing ye..... The Devil Also Believes in Allah ....... Yehp thats right....... Shaytan Also Believe in Allah.

Shaytan Said to Allah, " Iam Goin 2 make ur ummar ... im goin 2 make the "muslim" commit Sin sooooooo much! i have a way 2 make muslims sin without knowing it....... ill B Connected to ur muslims 24/7...... ill b connect to them and ill take them away from u....... by this method Ur muslims will be on the wrong path ....... they will b on My path!..... I will Keep Making them sin With This powerfull method.......and that method is MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Allah Said " The Doors Of forgivness are never closed for Muslims"
(btw obviously that is not the xact wording but agian u get the point)
Point is...... Devil Commuicates thru Music...... Althought we deny this...... he does....... music Is the Devils way of communication! so the more we spread this messge the more muslims are safe...... but we dnt wnt u hear..... Music is haram because it sounds gud to us.... sum might call me hypocrit but i admit since i heard it was haram i stoped listening 2 it...... then i went back 2 listening and now i listen 2 it but very less....... iam tryin 2 get rid of it...... its Hard i no...... anyways tc peepz - Allah hafiz

[FatGeezer]

For some people, it's really hard to fight Shaitan... and we ALL sin. There is no one in this world who doesn't sin.. We all do it. Allah (S.W.T) tests us in many ways and however he likes. For the Muslims who are facing hardship in their lives, it says that after every hardship there is relief.
but dont you think the biggest shaytan is the one that enters into our mind and lives undre the disguise of Islam itself taught to us by uneducated people and followed by the naive, the shaytan that makes us commit shirk and not realise it, the shaytan that makes you a hypocrite when hypocrocy is a sin? before rooting out all the evils everywhere else the evils within the "mutated islam" that most people hold dear to them needs to be rooted out.

ajnabi so do you have any PROOF for me yet?

And have you read the quran verse that you misquoted?

[mr ajnabi]

Ya Allah

This is 1 of the most beautiful and touching threads on Rd I have been on .

Look at these people showing their love for Islam and Praising You.

Look at the sweet words and guidance they give to one and another .


:rolleyes:

Long live This Thread ***


Long Live Islam !!! Ya Allah Make This Thread The longest and best ' So others can learn and really ponder over it and show a sign to them selfish people that our Islam which The last Messenger Prophet Muhammad brought to Humanity...

Is Powerful ' Unique And Beautiful !!!

its ...

Islam :D

[MolviCorleone]

apart from motageezer you guys are like old men with the shitaan stories. Blame satan when its our own weaknesses that fuck us up.

[FatGeezer]

bro i'll tell u one last thing ye..... The Devil Also Believes in Allah ....... Yehp thats right....... Shaytan Also Believe in Allah.

Shaytan Said to Allah, " Iam Goin 2 make ur ummar ... im goin 2 make the "muslim" commit Sin sooooooo much! i have a way 2 make muslims sin without knowing it....... ill B Connected to ur muslims 24/7...... ill b connect to them and ill take them away from u....... by this method Ur muslims will be on the wrong path ....... they will b on My path!..... I will Keep Making them sin With This powerfull method.......and that method is MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Allah Said " The Doors Of forgivness are never closed for Muslims"
(btw obviously that is not the xact wording but agian u get the point)
Point is...... Devil Commuicates thru Music...... Althought we deny this...... he does....... music Is the Devils way of communication! so the more we spread this messge the more muslims are safe...... but we dnt wnt u hear..... Music is haram because it sounds gud to us.... sum might call me hypocrit but i admit since i heard it was haram i stoped listening 2 it...... then i went back 2 listening and now i listen 2 it but very less....... iam tryin 2 get rid of it...... its Hard i no...... anyways tc peepz - Allah hafiz


yea, things like praying to graves and going to "peers" for help. Islam, especially "pakistani Islam" is very corrupt and full of sin. But most people dont take the time o read the quran themselves ina language they understand to realise and even when there pointed in the right direction they refuse to beleive and refute the words of the Quran itself. Surely those are the biggets sinners, the ones who claim to be muslims but yet go ahainst the word of the Quran in favour of what theyre mentors have taught them.

[SwordMujahid]

but dont you think the biggest shaytan is the one that enters into our mind and lives undre the disguise of Islam itself taught to us by uneducated people and followed by the naive, the shaytan that makes us commit shirk and not realise it, the shaytan that makes you a hypocrite when hypocrocy is a sin? before rooting out all the evils everywhere else the evils within the "mutated islam" that most people hold dear to them needs to be rooted out.

ajnabi so do you have any PROOF for me yet?

And have you read the quran verse that you misquoted?
To tell you the truth.. There's a lot of BS happening in my mind, like someone is whispering the worst things to say by the mouth.. Let me keep it at that, I don't want to go far in this and sound like a freak.

[MolviCorleone]

Ya Allah

This is 1 of the most beautiful and touching threads on Rd I have been on .

Look at these people showing their love for Islam and Praising You.

Look at the sweet words and guidance they give to one and another .


:rolleyes:

Long live This Thread ***


Long Live Islam !!! Ya Allah Make This Thread The longest and best ' So others can learn and really ponder over it and show a sign to them selfish people that our Islam which The last Messenger Prophet Muhammad brought to Humanity...

Is Powerful ' Unique And Beautiful !!!

its ...

Islam :D

bro

get real

[iffy_2007]

yea, things like praying to graves and going to "peers" for help. Islam, especially "pakistani Islam" is very corrupt and full of sin. But most people dont take the time o read the quran themselves ina language they understand to realise and even when there pointed in the right direction they refuse to beleive and refute the words of the Quran itself. Surely those are the biggets sinners, the ones who claim to be muslims but yet go ahainst the word of the Quran in favour of what theyre mentors have taught them.

The One Who goes Against the Quran is a Non-muslim - end of!

[mr ajnabi]

but dont you think the biggest shaytan is the one that enters into our mind and lives undre the disguise of Islam itself taught to us by uneducated people and followed by the naive, the shaytan that makes us commit shirk and not realise it, the shaytan that makes you a hypocrite when hypocrocy is a sin? before rooting out all the evils everywhere else the evils within the "mutated islam" that most people hold dear to them needs to be rooted out.

ajnabi so do you have any PROOF for me yet?

And have you read the quran verse that you misquoted?


Go and see our last thread ' i even sent you the link on your page ' please read it one and twice then come back to me .

:wavey:

[FatGeezer]

bro

get real
but this IS his reality :no:

[MolviCorleone]

To tell you the truth.. There's a lot of BS happening in my mind, like someone is whispering the worst things to say by the mouth.. Let me keep it at that, I don't want to go far in this and sound like a freak.

well basically we let our ego/desires get the better of us.

if theres one weakness mankind has, its our nafs.......the biggest jihad is against our nafs.....learning to control it.....thats part of what fasting is about.

[FatGeezer]

Go and see our last thread ' i even sent you the link on your page ' please read it one and twice then come back to me .

:wavey:
i did and i responded to it. You quoted a quranic verse competely wrong and out of context. I sent you a PM regarding it. Why so eager to get rid of me when I question you of your faith when you claim to be so perfect?

[iffy_2007]

right guys am out yeh...... Nice disscussin.... Yall Take Care
Allah Hafiz

Allah Hu Akhbar!

[mr ajnabi]

To tell you the truth.. There's a lot of BS happening in my mind, like someone is whispering the worst things to say by the mouth.. Let me keep it at that, I don't want to go far in this and sound like a freak.


Ive been through same stages and so have friends of mine .

You are no freak ' surely those who seek the truth and the best knowlege will face misery and hardship.

Did Not the last messenger face misery and hardhip in his life?

Your no freak it happens we are humans not angels.


Im on your side. :wavey:

[mr ajnabi]

right guys am out yeh...... Nice disscussin.... Yall Take Care
Allah Hafiz

Allah Hu Akhbar!

I wish we can meet again with more beautiful discussions because i support your words fully .

:wavey:

[mr ajnabi]

i did and i responded to it. You quoted a quranic verse competely wrong and out of context. I sent you a PM regarding it. Why so eager to get rid of me when I question you of your faith when you claim to be so perfect?

Im not perfect ' lol ... Allah knows best .

Muhammad p.b.u.h IS ' not was no ' IS PERFECT !!!

:D

[SwordMujahid]

Abu Hurairah (RA) narrates:
Rasulullah (SAW) came to us and said: Take protection with your shields!

Sahabah (Prophet's companions) asked: O Rasulullah! is there a threat of some enemy coming?

He said: Take protection with your shields against the Fire (of Hell)! Say,Subhanallah (All Praise is to Allah), Alhamdulillah (All Praise be to Allah), Lailaha illallah (None is worthy of worship but Allah), Allahu Akbar(Allah is the Greatest). On the Day of Resurrection, these words will come from the front, back, right and left (defence from all sides) of the one who had recited them,and ensure deliverence for him, and these are those good deeds for which the reward will be given eternally.
Source: Tabarani.


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Alright brothers, I'm out... Got to pray Isha and then go to sleep Insh'Allah... (Eastern Timezone)

[FatGeezer]

To tell you the truth.. There's a lot of BS happening in my mind, like someone is whispering the worst things to say by the mouth.. Let me keep it at that, I don't want to go far in this and sound like a freak.
then go and pray to allah and read the quran if you really are worried instead of wasting tme on here.

The quran is a rememdy for both the mind and the heart. Besides that you dont need anything else.

If you are afraid of the shaytan or black magic then all you need to do is read surat Al-falak and An-Nas, the last two of the quran, which ask allah for refuge from such things. You dont need no taweez or any other human help to help you.

[MolviCorleone]

yea, things like praying to graves and going to "peers" for help. Islam, especially "pakistani Islam" is very corrupt and full of sin. But most people dont take the time o read the quran themselves ina language they understand to realise and even when there pointed in the right direction they refuse to beleive and refute the words of the Quran itself. Surely those are the biggets sinners, the ones who claim to be muslims but yet go ahainst the word of the Quran in favour of what theyre mentors have taught them.

oh god
another najdi claiming things he has no knowledge about. You should join yanabi.com and ask them what its all about.

[FatGeezer]

Im not perfect ' lol ... Allah knows best .

Muhammad p.b.u.h IS ' not was no ' IS PERFECT !!!

:D
youre averting form my questions again.

You misquoted and twisted a Quranic verse. Are you gonna be a man to it and admit that now or still live in denial. Are you gonna repent to allah for that now? Surely the sin of twisting allah's words is one the greatest.

[FatGeezer]

oh god
another najdi claiming things he has no knowledge about. You should join yanabi.com and ask them what its all about.
:rofl:

i just clicked on it now and read the answer to a question someone had poste asking what a deobandi was. the answer was:

"...A example of hardcore deoband is he will use the word bidah a lot and will be critical of sunni practices.

A example of another deoband who is in the minority is he will just be critical about certain aspects of milad shareef or khatams"


talk about conclusive definitions :rofl:


I am neither a sunni, a wahhabi, a shia or a deobandi, I simply am a muslim!
People who segregate themselves into sects are edging away at religion.

[mr ajnabi]

oh god
another najdi claiming things he has no knowledge about. You should join yanabi.com and ask them what its all about.


yes i support you and that website.

:D

[mr ajnabi]

youre averting form my questions again.

You misquoted and twisted a Quranic verse. Are you gonna be a man to it and admit that now or still live in denial. Are you gonna repent to allah for that now? Surely the sin of twisting allah's words is one the greatest.


lol its easy to be a fool behind a computer come to my house bruv ' ill tell you

FACE TO FACE AND EXPLAIN .

or i can meet you up.

fair way.

:D

[FatGeezer]

lol its easy to be a fool behind a computer come to my house bruv ' ill tell you

FACE TO FACE AND EXPLAIN .

or i can meet you up.

fair way.

:D
i responded to your post again already. more incoherency i see.

[FatGeezer]

yes i support you and that website.

:D
yes yes, start arse-lickin with anyone who says something you might slightly agree with for a second, forget that a few posts before he called you a bickering old fool.

Such weak will :no:
I just hope your allegance doesnt turn to the shaytan when he tempts you with such, oh wait :think:, i think it already has...

[MolviCorleone]

:rofl:

i just clicked on it now and read the answer to a question someone had poste asking what a deobandi was. the answer was:

"...A example of hardcore deoband is he will use the word bidah a lot and will be critical of sunni practices.

A example of another deoband who is in the minority is he will just be critical about certain aspects of milad shareef or khatams"


talk about conclusive definitions :rofl:


I am neither a sunni, a wahhabi, a shia or a deobandi, I simply am a muslim!
People who segregate themselves into sects are edging away at religion.


those are all correct though...my friend who is deobandi used to say such things to me until i realised he was deobandis, i asked him why some of the leaders of his 'sect' followed ibn wahab.....he didnt answer me....he agrees though...they did follow ibn wahab.

as for being muslim..thats the best answer bro, obviously. BUT when you claim things people pray at graves and go to peers as being 'bidat' without any backing, your only making things up, your also(on purpose may i add) spreading fitna by lying.....people visit graves and read dua..thats pretty obvious thats the whole purpose for visiting graves. We visit peer sahibs becuase we beleive they are awliya, we ask them for advice. Thats very much allowed. NOW there are certain people who lack knowledge (but these are the ave mr and mrs choudhry off the street) who will visit graves and ask the dead person in the grave to do something for them.....and even ask peer saabs to forgive them ro 'remove magic' (like those peers u read about in papers)
thats wrong.
please dont mix the 2 together. The last example isnt what pakistani islam is about. Just have patience and let them learn.

The Prophet Mohammed sallallaho allaihi wassallam did say
'I feel cool breeze (refreshment) from AL - HIND (Muslims of India)"

what would that mean?

and compare that to hadiths aimed towards the najdis.

[MolviCorleone]

btw bro, asking for someone to do intercession on our bahalf ...what are your thoughts on it?

[btown-paki]

i was just wondering how many of you pray 5 times a day? ive started reading namaaz 5 times a day and honestly i feel more 'fresh' and 'peaceful'. honestly i can feel the difference it makes and inshallah i can keep doing this for as long as possible. i mean for us youths these days hardly anyone prays or reads the qu'ran.

religion besides i even know a few bengalis who cant even speak their own language, too westernised. yer its good because times are changin but u still need to remember your roots

me me me...especially rite now since im out of school 4 in masjid...1 at home(fajir)

and ya it does feel pretty good, it is pretty hard for us youths since we got a million things going in our lives but still takin 15 min away from yur life isnt gona kill ya, most of us have LOTS of time to waste such as all these people in RD!!!

[FatGeezer]

those are all correct though...my friend who is deobandi used to say such things to me until i realised he was deobandis, i asked him why some of the leaders of his 'sect' followed ibn wahab.....he didnt answer me....he agrees though...they did follow ibn wahab.

as for being muslim..thats the best answer bro, obviously. BUT when you claim things people pray at graves and go to peers as being 'bidat' without any backing, your only making things up, your also(on purpose may i add) spreading fitna by lying.....people visit graves and read dua..thats pretty obvious thats the whole purpose for visiting graves. We visit peer sahibs becuase we beleive they are awliya, we ask them for advice. Thats very much allowed. NOW there are certain people who lack knowledge (but these are the ave mr and mrs choudhry off the street) who will visit graves and ask the dead person in the grave to do something for them.....and even ask peer saabs to forgive them ro 'remove magic' (like those peers u read about in papers)
thats wrong.
please dont mix the 2 together. The last example isnt what pakistani islam is about. Just have patience and let them learn.

The Prophet Mohammed sallallaho allaihi wassallam did say
'I feel cool breeze (refreshment) from AL - HIND (Muslims of India)"

what would that mean?

and compare that to hadiths aimed towards the najdis.

THIS is the proof i used with regards to what the Quran says about intercession in a debate with ajnabi:

Seriously, where the hell do you get your "knowledge" from????
GIVE ME ONE SIGN OF PROOF THAT HE IS ALIVE NEXT TO ALLAH???? God youve almost raised him to the extent of duality with Allah. God forgive you.

And stop getting such romantic notions in your head. Each man is responsible for each and theyre own actions on this earth. You think you can live your life how you want and then the prophet (pbuh) will "save you" with his intercession on your behalf? Stop being so naive. Look at the words of the Quran:
Surah 82:
18. Again, what will explain to thee what the Day of Judgment is?
19. (It will be) the Day when no soul shall have power (to do) aught for another: For the command, that Day, will be (wholly) with Allah.

So now i hear you arguing that the prophet (pbuh) would have interceded on your behalf BEFORE the da of judgement, well then let me address that:
Surah 39:
44. Say: "To Allah belongs exclusively (the right to grant) intercession: to Him belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth: In the End, it is to Him that ye shall be brought back."
Surah 2:
254. O ye who believe! Spend out of (the bounties) We have provided for you, before the Day comes when no bargaining (Will avail), nor friendship nor intercession. Those who reject Faith they are the wrong-doers.

And lets look at some examples of intercession again shall we:
Surah 9:
114. And Abraham prayed for his father's forgiveness only because of a promise he had made to him. But when it became clear to him that he was an enemy to Allah, he dissociated himself from him: for Abraham was most tender-hearted, forbearing.
The Prophet Abraham (pbuh) himself could not intercede on behalf of his FATHER

Surah 11:
45. And Noah called upon his Lord, and said: "O my Lord! surely my son is of my family! and Thy promise is true, and Thou art the justest of Judges!"
46. He said: "O Noah! He is not of thy family: For his conduct is unrighteous. So ask not of Me that of which thou hast no knowledge! I give thee counsel, lest thou act like the ignorant!"
The Prophet Noah (pbuh) himself could not interced on behalf of his SON.

Then you may argue well the Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) was a GREATER prophet than the others and his intercession will be herad but then look:

The prophet (pbuh) could not interced on behalf of his uncle!:
Surah 111:
1. Perish the hands of the Father of Flame! Perish he!
2. No profit to him from all his wealth, and all his gains!
3. Burnt soon will he be in a Fire of Blazing Flame!

nor on his relatives:
Surah 9:
80. Whether thou ask for their forgiveness, or not, (their sin is unforgivable): if thou ask seventy times for their forgiveness, Allah will not forgive them: because they have rejected Allah and His Messenger. and Allah guideth not those who are perversely rebellious.

So in conclusion whats the Quran say about intercession?
Surah 2:
48. Then guard yourselves against a day when one soul shall not avail another nor shall intercession be accepted for her, nor shall compensation be taken from her, nor shall anyone be helped (from outside).
123. Then guard yourselves against a-Day when one soul shall not avail another, nor shall compensation be accepted from her nor shall intercession profit her nor shall anyone be helped (from outside).

Surah 6:
51. Give this warning to those in whose (hearts) is the fear that they will be brought (to judgment) before their Lord: except for Him they will have no protector nor intercessor: that they may guard (against evil).
70. Leave alone those who take their religion to be mere play and amusement, and are deceived by the life of this world. But proclaim (to them) this (truth): that every soul delivers itself to ruin by its own acts: it will find for itself no protector or intercessor except Allah. if it offered every ransom, (or reparation), none will be accepted: such is (the end of) those who deliver themselves to ruin by their own acts: they will have for drink (only) boiling water, and for punishment, one most grievous: for they persisted in rejecting Allah.
94. "And behold! ye come to us bare and alone as We created you for the first time: ye have left behind you all (the favours) which We bestowed on you: We see not with you your intercessors whom ye thought to be partners in your affairs: so now all relations between you have been cut off, and your (pet) fancies have left you in the lurch!"

Surah 7:
53. Do they just wait for the final fulfilment of the event? On the day the event is finally fulfilled, those who disregarded it before will say: "The apostles of our Lord did indeed bring true (tidings). Have we no intercessors now to intercede on our behalf? Or could we be sent back? then should we behave differently from our behaviour in the past." In fact they will have lost their souls, and the things they invented will leave them in the lurch.

Surah 10:
3. Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and the earth in six days, and is firmly established on the throne (of authority), regulating and governing all things. No intercessor (can plead with Him) except after His leave (hath been obtained). This is Allah your Lord; Him therefore serve ye: will ye not receive admonition?

theres countless more. Look at: 19:87; 26:100; 30:13; 32:4; 36:23; 39:44; 40:18; 43:86; 53:26 & 74:48.

And what infact will Mohammed's (pbuh) intercession actually be?
Surah 25:
27. The Day that the wrong-doer will bite at his hands, he will say, "Oh! would that I had taken a (straight) path with the Messenger.
28. "Ah! woe is me! Would that I had never taken such a one for a friend!
29. "He did lead me astray from the Message (of Allah. after it had come to me! Ah! the Evil One is but a traitor to man!" Then the Messenger will say:
30. "O my Lord! Truly my people took this Qur'an for just foolish nonsense."
31. Thus have We made for every prophet an enemy among the sinners: but enough is thy Lord to guide and to help.

So as you can see my dear freind, the Quran makes everything clear for those who beleive. Now do you dare refute the Quran itself?

[mr ajnabi]

yes yes, start arse-lickin with anyone who says something you might slightly agree with for a second, forget that a few posts before he called you a bickering old fool.

Such weak will :no:
I just hope your allegance doesnt turn to the shaytan when he tempts you with such, oh wait :think:, i think it already has...

loool

id love to see u face to face ' you sound so childish and im respecting you as a older brother . lmao

ass licking ?

lol u fool come to my house yanabi.com is a very good site and useful i have it stored in my favourites and it is recommnded .

take a deep breath and say ' Allah hu akhbar!

lol

:D

[FatGeezer]

loool

id love to see u face to face ' you sound so childish and im respecting you as a older brother . lmao

ass licking ?

lol u fool come to my house yanabi.com is a very good site and useful i have it stored in my favourites and it is recommnded .

take a deep breath and say ' Allah hu akhbar!

lol

:D

Yeah, i'll say allahuakbar and slap some sense into you.

Ok if youre so eager to meet me why dont you come up to MY house? I have no intention of wasting hours to meeting a partner of the shaytan

[mr ajnabi]

Yeah, i'll say allahuakbar and slap some sense into you.

Ok if youre so eager to meet me why dont you come up to MY house? I have no intention of wasting hours to meeting a partner of the shaytan

lool

you are pathetic and ill say that to ure face man to man .

yupp

when u inviting me over? Insha allah .?

[FatGeezer]

lool

you are pathetic and ill say that to ure face man to man .

yupp

when u inviting me over? Insha allah .?
whenever you want.

Anyone who twists the words of allah and his verses of the quran is a partner of the shaytan in my opinion. Only the Shaytan would want to change the meaning of the quran.

[mr ajnabi]

lol

stop seeking a net attraction here '

Post what did i twist from the holy book qur''aan right now and here ??

:sarb:

[FatGeezer]

lol

stop seeking a net attraction here '

Post what did i twist from the holy book qur''aan right now and here ??

:sarb:


net attention? :sarb: running out of things to say?

Post #117 in the 786 thread.

and here was my correction:
more superficial "googled kowledge":

Care to provde the line of descent and validity, and in most cases, the hadith refernces themselves before I even address you on this?

Cos cos I say "fatgeezeer is king" doesnt make it a hadith.

I WANT PROOF.

Oh, and your Quran reference is WRONG
Surah 21, Al Anbiya, verse 107 translates to:

107. We sent thee not, but as a Mercy for all creatures (Yusuf Ali)
107 We sent thee not save as a mercy for the peoples (Pickthall)

There is NO mentiuon of blessings and the verse is in a pragraph relating to the equality of mankind and how the quran is for all mankind whist the psalms etc (as mentioned in previous verses) were for "local" people, nothing to do with the spiritual life of the prophet mohammed (saw).

More proof that you just follow parrott fashion what youre told without questioning it.
If youre gonna quote the Quran again I STRONGLY suggest you cross-refernce what you write to avoid any istakes again.

Further to your reference being wrong your comments dont even apply

[MolviCorleone]

THIS is the proof i used with regards to what the Quran says about intercession in a debate with ajnabi:

Ill come back to this topic later InshaAllah. :D

Thats why I Asked you about intercession.....something ive been thinking about recently having read some of the verses out of the Holy Quran you posted.

[FatGeezer]

Ill come back to this topic later InshaAllah. :D

Thats why I Asked you about intercession.....something ive been thinking about recently having read some of the verses out of the Holy Quran you posted.


like i said, theyres alot of things that can be debated openly and validly, but some of the things people say are just bang contradictory of "classic islam" but people are too set in the ways to change. To really learn one must have an open mind and accept that some of the knowledge they may have been taught or possess may be wrong and be mature enough to correct themselves instead of just being in denial about it. Even the greatest of people make mistakes, we are human after all. But if The Quran is the primary book in Islam then surely it makes sense to follow that above all other teachings?

[mr ajnabi]

The thread we previousaly used >

http://forums.ratedesi.com/showthread.php?p=5828562&posted=1#post5828562

Please check i only used 1 quote from the qur'aan not several at that thread i used just used one.

Bism millah hir rah maar ni raheem.

Wama arsalnaka illa rahmatanlilAAalameena

21:107 We sent thee not, but as a Mercy for all creatures.
Wama arsalnaka illa rahmatanlilAAalameena

That the 1 i used which comes from Al-Anbiya.

lol you fool so what did i twist and dont you call me a shaytaans partner u fool.

:neutral:

[FatGeezer]

The thread we previousaly used >

http://forums.ratedesi.com/showthread.php?p=5828562&posted=1#post5828562

Please check i only used 1 quote from the qur'aan not several at that thread i used just used one.

Bism millah hir rah maar ni raheem.

Wama arsalnaka illa rahmatanlilAAalameena

21:107 We sent thee not, but as a Mercy for all creatures.
Wama arsalnaka illa rahmatanlilAAalameena

That the 1 i used which comes from Al-Anbiya.

lol you fool so what did i twist and dont you call me a shaytaans partner u fool.

:neutral:


What youve written above as the quote isnt waht you wrote, THIS is what you wrote, SO now youre denying what you wrote:

HERE is what you wrote, post #117
Ive highlighted it in RED for you:

Bis millah hir rah maar nir raheem

Ok brother i will answer you from the love of the last messenger with my whole heart and In Allah's name the 1 true god who we worship ...



Now for the sake of our readers here are some references from Quran and Hadiths which proves that the hayyat-un-Nabi (salallahoalaihewasalam).

· “I have sent you as a blessing for the whole Universe”
(Quran Surah #21:107)
Comment: If a person is dead then how come he will do blessing. He has to be alive in order to do blessing. Muhammad (salallahoalaihewasalam) is "Rehmatullil Alameen" therfore He is alive otherwise this is contradicting to Quran.

Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) said, "Invoke many blessings on me on Friday for it is witnessed. The angels are present on it, and no one will invoke a blessing on me without his blessing being submitted to me till he stops." I asked whether that applied also after his death, and he replied, "Allah has prohibited the Earth from consuming the bodies of the prophets; so Allah's prophet is alive (in their graves) and given provision."(Al-Tirmizi)

Hadith: "After my death, visiting my shrine is like visiting me when I am alive"

Hadith: "A person who performs hajj and then visits my grave will have visited me when I was alive"

Also Rasulallah (salallahoalaihewasalam) said in a hadith that his coming is blessing and his leaving is also blessing. His leaving is also blessing because of the fact that every Friday the report of his ummat is being presented to him. Rasulallah smiles when he sees good deeds of his ummah and make dua of forgiveness to Allah Ta'ala when he sees bad deeds of his ummah.

In the hadiths of Meraj it is narrated that, When prophet Muhammad (SallahoAlaiheWasalam) traveled from Makkah to Baitul-Muqaddus, He saw hadrat Moosa (Alaihesalaam), praying in his grave and when he reached Baitul-Muqaddus, Muhammad (SallahoAlaiheWasalam) met all the prophets including Hadrat Moosa (AlaiheSalaam) whom he just saw on his way to Baitul-Muqaddus and when he went to the seven skies, he met again all the prophets.


The hadiths of Meraj clearly proves that prophets of Allah are alive and Allah has given them power which are beyond our comprehensions.


are you going back on your word now?
You made a point of elaborating on it how you interpretaed it originally above so now youre saying you take all that back and admit you quoted it wrong?

[nadiafreez]

its funny that i just came across this thread and i started praying few dayz ago because i came to visit my parents for vacation and i see my mom praying so i pray.

i think people who live in your household and surrounding helps alot.

[mr ajnabi]

21:107

We sent thee not, but as a Mercy for all creatures.
Wama arsalnaka illa rahmatanlilAAalameena

I used this grammar from a english translation Holy qur'aan.

I have sent you as a blessing for the whole Universe '


Now lol fatgeeza thinks i have twisted it ... I have simply used a good english ' to implement on that arab ONE. which i can show any 1 like fatgeeza from a translation book which lies in my house.


I Dare twist anything ' !!!

But i know whats twisted'

fatgeeza im sorry you are acting all twisted and you need to have a nice approach not acting all childish and calling me shaytaans partner.

I AM A SINFUL SLAVE OF ALLAH AND HIM I WORSHIP ALONE AND I TRY MY BEST TO WALK THE LAST MESSENGERS FOOTSTEPS .

[mr ajnabi]

You are my brother ' and i am not seeking a online challenge in debate action with you.
lol

I seek a brothers support for the muslim ummah . To hepl each other and point out mistakes and not get highly tempered.

Together we make unity '

Divided we fall weak ... a great man said that too once.

:)

[FatGeezer]

21:107

We sent thee not, but as a Mercy for all creatures.
Wama arsalnaka illa rahmatanlilAAalameena

I used this grammar from a english translation Holy qur'aan.

I have sent you as a blessing for the whole Universe '


Now lol fatgeeza thinks i have twisted it ... I have simply used a good english ' to implement on that arab ONE. which i can show any 1 like fatgeeza from a translation book which lies in my house.


I Dare twist anything ' !!!

But i know whats twisted'

fatgeeza im sorry you are acting all twisted and you need to have a nice approach not acting all childish and calling me shaytaans partner.

I AM A SINFUL SLAVE OF ALLAH AND HIM I WORSHIP ALONE AND I TRY MY BEST TO WALK THE LAST MESSENGERS FOOTSTEPS .


what the hell are you talking about? Now youre saying the two are the same?
We sent thee not, but as a Mercy for all creatures=I have sent you as a blessing for the whole Universe?????

So according to you both the above are the SAME?

HOW DARE YOU TWIST THE WORDS OF THE QURAN YOU TAKE SO LIGHTLY

Further than that you USED your initial translation ("I have sent you as a blessing for the whole Universe") as your claim that the prophet (pbuh) is alive and sending blessings on you. If the PROPER translation had been used you would not have been able to interpret it as that anyway. Besides, like I pointed out, the paragraph is of complete different context.

FACE FACTS
You can laugh all you want but your guilty of trying to present and portray a verse of the Quran in a mutated form.

And stop being sucha hypoctite and saying your trying to live in the footsteps of the last messengers footseps,. If you really want to do that, throw away all your worldy possessions for a start and start being a lot more humble for a start instead of being full of shirk and hypocrocy.

[FatGeezer]

You are my brother ' and i am not seeking a online challenge in debate action with you.
lol

I seek a brothers support for the muslim ummah . To hepl each other and point out mistakes and not get highly tempered.

Together we make unity '

Divided we fall weak ... a great man said that too once.

:)
well if that really is the case then why cant you accept the false beleifs and mistaken knowledge you hold dear to you when I have shown you clearly you are in the wrong by giving you examples of the Quran itself?

Stop trying to sugar coat your true intentions.

Id much rather stand apart from people like who who will eat away at islam from within.

[mr ajnabi]

what the hell are you talking about? Now youre saying the two are the same?
We sent thee not, but as a Mercy for all creatures=I have sent you as a blessing for the whole Universe?????

So according to you both the above are the SAME?

HOW DARE YOU TWIST THE WORDS OF THE QURAN YOU TAKE SO LIGHTLY

Further than that you USED your initial translation ("I have sent you as a blessing for the whole Universe") as your claim that the prophet (pbuh) is alive and sending blessings on you. If the PROPER translation had been used you would not have been able to interpret it as that anyway. Besides, like I pointed out, the paragraph is of complete different context.

FACE FACTS
You can laugh all you want but your guilty of trying to present and portray a verse of the Quran in a mutated form.

And stop being sucha hypoctite and saying your trying to live in the footsteps of the last messengers footseps,. If you really want to do that, throw away all your worldy possessions for a start and start being a lot more humble for a start instead of being full of shirk and hypocrocy.


The below is when i told what the quote means in good english' and describing it ' i did not twist anything u joker.

I Have sent you as a blessing for the whole Universe

big bro lol your quick to temper and sound confused ' please pray it will take them away from you.

lol
:wavey:

[FatGeezer]

The below is when i told what the quote means in good english' and describing it ' i did not twist anything u joker.

I Have sent you as a blessing for the whole Universe

big bro lol your quick to temper and sound confused ' please pray it will take them away from you.

lol
:wavey:
stop trying to get out of it.

You oput it in "QUOTES" which means direct quotation.

And even so, IT DOESNT MEAN THE SAME IN "GOOD" ENGLISH.

MERCY DOESNT EQUATE TO BLESSING, especially when you read the comment you wrote along with it:" Comment: If a person is dead then how come he will do blessing. He has to be alive in order to do blessing. Muhammad (salallahoalaihewasalam) is "Rehmatullil Alameen" therfore He is alive otherwise this is contradicting to Quran. "
How can this all relate to the proper meaning of the verse which implies the advent of Islam and his messenger is a mercy for all mankind not just a local tribe?

THIS CLEARLY SHOWS YOU TRIED TO TWIST THE MEANING OF THE VERSE OF THE QURAN AND TRIED TO USE IT FOR YOUR OWN PERSONAL NON-ISLAMIC ARGUMENT TRYING TO GIVE IT SOME CREDIBILITY.

[mr ajnabi]

well if that really is the case then why cant you accept the false beleifs and mistaken knowledge you hold dear to you when I have shown you clearly you are in the wrong by giving you examples of the Quran itself?

Stop trying to sugar coat your true intentions.

Id much rather stand apart from people like who who will eat away at islam from within.

sugar coat your true intentions.

lol

heres my 1...



You pointed a finger at me and called me names like ...

your shytaans partner '

you are shirk and hypocrite '

If i was a evil muslim i would of choped that finger off .....

but insted i as a good muslim tell you .....

dont point at me ' put it away or raise it and say ' 1 GOD.

:D

You seem to enjoy your little posts i give you 1 in return . keep smiling :D

[FatGeezer]

And I am not a joker, Im deadly serious so dont try to laugh it off.

Why dont you follow some of your own advice and go ask for forgiveness for the serious sin you committed? Maybe god will forgive you, not so sure about your shirk tho...

[FatGeezer]

sugar coat your true intentions.

lol

heres my 1...



You pointed a finger at me and called me names like ...

your shytaans partner '

you are shirk and hypocrite '

If i was a evil muslim i would of choped that finger off .....

but insted i as a good muslim tell you .....

dont point at me ' put it away or raise it and say ' 1 GOD.

:D

You seem to enjoy your little posts i give you 1 in return . keep smiling :D


My theory is simple:

Anyone who tries to mutate or twist the meaning of the quran = partner of shaytan
anyone who allies partners to allah and equates godly powers to humans = shirk

Tell me if I'm wrong.
You are guilty of both.

[FatGeezer]

sugar coat your true intentions.

lol

heres my 1...



You pointed a finger at me and called me names like ...

your shytaans partner '

you are shirk and hypocrite '

If i was a evil muslim i would of choped that finger off .....

but insted i as a good muslim tell you .....

dont point at me ' put it away or raise it and say ' 1 GOD.

:D

You seem to enjoy your little posts i give you 1 in return . keep smiling :D


no, as an "EVIL MUSLIM" you spread lies and false truths and ally false properties with humans.

If you chopped my finger off youd stand out like a sore thumb and be outcast.

You try to blend in and destroy Islam from within.

Just answer me one question:
IF YOU REALLY ARE A MUSLIM WHY DO YOU HAVE SUCH A HARD TIME BELEIVING THE WORDS OF THE QURAN??

[mr ajnabi]

stop trying to get out of it.

You oput it in "QUOTES" which means direct quotation.

And even so, IT DOESNT MEAN THE SAME IN "GOOD" ENGLISH.

MERCY DOESNT EQUATE TO BLESSING, especially when you read the comment you wrote along with it:" Comment: If a person is dead then how come he will do blessing. He has to be alive in order to do blessing. Muhammad (salallahoalaihewasalam) is "Rehmatullil Alameen" therfore He is alive otherwise this is contradicting to Quran. "
How can this all relate to the proper meaning of the verse which implies the advent of Islam and his messenger is a mercy for all mankind not just a local tribe?

THIS CLEARLY SHOWS YOU TRIED TO TWIST THE MEANING OF THE VERSE OF THE QURAN AND TRIED TO USE IT FOR YOUR OWN PERSONAL NON-ISLAMIC ARGUMENT TRYING TO GIVE IT SOME CREDIBILITY.



I did not twist the meaning .

go read that same post ' i showed a simlarity but lol you take this so far ' when the argument was you saying the last messenger is dead .

YES HE DIED AS A HUMAN BEING' BUT IS ALIVE AT THIS PRESENT MOMENT .

BECAUSE WE MUSLIM BELIEVE THAT ON FRIDAYS ' WHEN WE SEND HIM SALUTATIONS ' HE LISTENS WITH HIS OWN EARS.

HOW CAN HE BE AT A STATE WHEN HE CAN LISTEN ON EVERY FRIDAY TO BLESSINGS.

QUOTE : HADITH !!!

:o

[FatGeezer]

I did not twist the meaning .

go read that same post ' i showed a simlarity but lol you take this so far ' when the argument was you saying the last messenger is dead .

YES HE DIED AS A HUMAN BEING' BUT IS ALIVE AT THIS PRESENT MOMENT .

BECAUSE WE MUSLIM BELIEVE THAT ON FRIDAYS ' WHEN WE SEND HIM SALUTATIONS ' HE LISTENS WITH HIS OWN EARS.

HOW CAN HE BE AT A STATE WHEN HE CAN LISTEN ON EVERY FRIDAY TO BLESSINGS.

QUOTE : HADITH !!!

:o
stop talking a load of crap. youre going off tangent again.

Stick to the topic at hand: YOU PORTRAYED AND PRESENTED AND TWISTED A VERSE OF THE QURAN. NO IFS NO BUTTS. YOU DID. END OF.

[FatGeezer]

I did not twist the meaning .

go read that same post ' i showed a simlarity but lol you take this so far ' when the argument was you saying the last messenger is dead .

YES HE DIED AS A HUMAN BEING' BUT IS ALIVE AT THIS PRESENT MOMENT .

BECAUSE WE MUSLIM BELIEVE THAT ON FRIDAYS ' WHEN WE SEND HIM SALUTATIONS ' HE LISTENS WITH HIS OWN EARS.

HOW CAN HE BE AT A STATE WHEN HE CAN LISTEN ON EVERY FRIDAY TO BLESSINGS.

QUOTE : HADITH !!!

:o

oh and the "hadith" of your peers>>>>the words of the quran???

[mr ajnabi]

no, as an "EVIL MUSLIM" you spread lies and false truths and ally false properties with humans.

If you chopped my finger off youd stand out like a sore thumb and be outcast.

You try to blend in and destroy Islam from within.

Just answer me one question:
IF YOU REALLY ARE A MUSLIM WHY DO YOU HAVE SUCH A HARD TIME BELEIVING THE WORDS OF THE QURAN??


lol i know what i am '

that question should seriousaly be directed to you brother......

Fact: You claim to know it all ' or atleast you show some verses but its a great shame you cant pray 5 times ' because that would of atleast softened you up and shown a loving approach.

Fact: Only on net people like showing off harsh words because in reality maybe they are shy or scared. And i also gave you the opportunity to mee me as a person may be you might show me a different side to you ' because in forums or chatrooms you can have a name like lol fatgeeza and show 100 different personalities.

Fact: You said harsh words against the messenger ' and yet you dont know the truth about him and i suggest you send him salutations and take heed in the qur'aan.

Hope you make it . Insha allah :D

[mr ajnabi]

oh and the "hadith" of your peers>>>>the words of the quran???

i will show you the hadith next time ' i find it and ill send it to you.

BUT APART FROM HADITH AND QURAAN THERE ARE HIGH NUMBERS MUSLIM .. YES ... HIGH LIKELY TO EVEN HERE ...

THAT BELIVE THE LAST MESSENGER (P.B.U.H.)

LISTENS TO DUR'OOD EVERY FRIDAY WITH HIS OWN EARS AND THAT HE IS ALIVE AND THE GREATEST MAN TO STEP ON EARTH.

:sarb:

[FatGeezer]

lol i know what i am '

that question should seriousaly be directed to you brother......

Fact: You claim to know it all ' or atleast you show some verses but its a great shame you cant pray 5 times ' because that would of atleast softened you up and shown a loving approach.

Fact: Only on net people like showing off harsh words because in reality maybe they are shy or scared. And i also gave you the opportunity to mee me as a person may be you might show me a different side to you ' because in forums or chatrooms you can have a name like lol fatgeeza and show 100 different personalities.

Fact: You said harsh words against the messenger ' and yet you dont know the truth about him and i suggest you send him salutations and take heed in the qur'aan.

Hope you make it . Insha allah :D


How do you know if i pray or not? are you psychic? Simply because i refuse to answer your question that makes you think I dont? shame on you for sitting on such a pedestle.

I am more outspoken in real life than I am here, so by all means if you wnat to come and meet me in manchester you can do so, but Im not wasting my hours travelligng down to meet someone who openly engages in shirk and twists the verses of the quran.

AND STOP GOING OFF TOPIC. YOU CAN SAVE YOUR PERSONAL OPINIONS OF ME TIL LATER.

WHY DO YOU FIND IT SO HARD TO BELEIVE THE WORDS OF THE QURAN I ASK YOU AGAIN?

[FatGeezer]

i will show you the hadith next time ' i find it and ill send it to you.

BUT APART FROM HADITH AND QURAAN THERE ARE HIGH NUMBERS MUSLIM .. YES ... HIGH LIKELY TO EVEN HERE ...

THAT BELIVE THE LAST MESSENGER (P.B.U.H.)

LISTENS TO DUR'OOD EVERY FRIDAY WITH HIS OWN EARS AND THAT HE IS ALIVE AND THE GREATEST MAN TO STEP ON EARTH.

:sarb:


and even more people than all mthe muslims put together beleive in jesus christ and the holy trinity and christianity.
That doesnt make them right.
Numbers dont mean anything.

Oh, and its common knowledge that vastly more number of people will be in hell than in heaven, so all the more of youre type to fill hell with.

[mr ajnabi]

and even more people than all mthe muslims put together beleive in jesus christ and the holy trinity and christianity.
That doesnt make them right.
Numbers dont mean anything.

Oh, and its common knowledge that vastly more number of people will be in hell than in heaven, so all the more of youre type to fill hell with.

My brother you are arrogant.

You cant say who will go hell ' ALLAH IS THE JUDGE.

but lol you carry on assuming with that mind and making your theories from a arrogant prespective.

I hope every one makes it to heaven and Allah give you 5 salah prayer daily and hapiness from this arrogant behaviour.

:o

[mr ajnabi]

lool

I understand ... its about you and the debates which you like and i sence you like posting last to show others...

that you can debate and ooh lol im the stronger 1'

This is the real me :

Im sorry (saying sorry dont make a person look smaller) and also if you want to take this matter further meet me and ill clarify this issue but now im a little busy and neet to go some where.

I dont really care ' wow that people will read my post and say wow mr ajnabi is challengig fatgeeza or fatgeeza is better.

lol keep your fatgeeza reputation on net ...

i explained nicely to you several times now i leave saying this...

Allah knows best !!! Allah bless the lastmessenger who is Alive (not dead like you say) and Allah guide and bless Humanity !!!

I mean that from my heart and intentions.

Long Live Islam !!!

[FatGeezer]

lool

I understand ... its about you and the debates which you like and i sence you like posting last to show others...

that you can debate and ooh lol im the stronger 1'

This is the real me :

Im sorry (saying sorry dont make a person look smaller) and also if you want to take this matter further meet me and ill clarify this issue but now im a little busy and neet to go some where.

I dont really care ' wow that people will read my post and say wow mr ajnabi is challengig fatgeeza or fatgeeza is better.

lol keep your fatgeeza reputation on net ...

i explained nicely to you several times now i leave saying this...

Allah knows best !!! Allah bless the lastmessenger who is Alive (not dead like you say) and Allah guide and bless Humanity !!!

I mean that from my heart and intentions.

Long Live Islam !!!

stop copting and posting your posts in multiple threads.

And for your info i doubt very much if anyone is bothering to even read any off this.

just stop making pathetic excuses for yourself and admit youre in the wrong.

Or do you want to present sum more twisted verses of the quran?

oh, and if you post again in this thread it'll just show what your word really means.

Jus6t piss off for once and for all, this world is better without people like you who cliam to be muslims but are infact indulging in nothing but shirk and wrongdoings.

Now, are you gonna reply again and show me that your words worth nothing?

[FatGeezer]

My brother you are arrogant.

You cant say who will go hell ' ALLAH IS THE JUDGE.

but lol you carry on assuming with that mind and making your theories from a arrogant prespective.

I hope every one makes it to heaven and Allah give you 5 salah prayer daily and hapiness from this arrogant behaviour.

:o
but allah clearly says anyone who commits shirk will never be forgiven and you openly indulge in that but fail to acknowledge it.

[SwordMujahid]

Anyways... I happened to wake up for Fajr Alhamdulilah, but my alarm clock didn't even go off.... I just happened to wake up by myself at 3:40ish.. but my plan was to wake up at 3:05AM. Anyways, when I woke up.. I didn't feel drowsy or tired.. I just did Wudhu and prayed, did Zikr, Made Du'a and slept after. So... this was great for me.

[ElDiablo]

One of the main points of dispute or difference between the Sunni and Wahhabi/Tablighi/Deobandi is the fundamental belief in the matter of intercession by the beloved Prophet Mohammad (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) on the Day of Judgement.

It is stated in the Holy Qur'an:

'And when it is said to them: "Come the Messenger of Allah will ask for forgiveness for you,” they twist their heads, and you will see them turning away in arrogance. ‘
(AI Munafiqoon 63: Ayat 5)

The Holy Prophet Mohammad (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) has said:
“Seek my Wasila. For the person in this world who seeks my
Wasila, I shall be his witness and plead for his Shafa'at on the Day
of Judgement."
(Jaam-e-Sagir, Ch.2. Page 58; Tibrani; Ibne Majah)

The Wahhabi/Deobandi leader, has stated in his book, Takviyatul-Iman:
"He is a Mushrik like Abu Jahal who believes the Prophet Mohammad (Sallallahu alaihi wasallam) as his pleader or intercessor on the Day of Judgement”

It is Aqeeda of the Sunnis to believe in the Day of Judgement and intercession by the Prophet of Allah. First of all, all aggrieved people will approach Hadhrat Adam (alaihis-salaam) for intercession who will reply that he was too insignificant to intercede on behalf of others and that he was too worried about himself. They will go to Hadhrat Nooh (alaihis-salaam), then to Hazrat Ibrahim (alaihis salaam), then to Hazrat Moosa (alaihis-salaam) as well as Hazrat Isa (alaihis-salaam). They all will refuse to intercede.

Then the multitude of people will then approach Prophet Mohammad (sallallahu alaihi wasallam), and will beseech him, crying and craving to intercede so as to free them from the ordeal and tormenting pains that they have suffered without respite. The gracious Prophet will give them a patient hearing and say:
"I am for this. I am the one you have been looking for. "


The Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) will then enter the court of Allah (the Almighty) and bow in sajda before Him. Allah, the Almighty, will say:
"O Mohammad raise your head and say what you want to say.
Your plea will be heard and what you pray will be granted.
Intercede, if you wish, because your intercession can be entertained. "

And thus Allah Ta'ala will grant his wishes, as mentioned in the Qur'an (AI Dhuha; Ayaat 5):
"Wa la saufa yo-atika Rabboka fatardha. "
"And (O Mohammad) certainly your Lord shall give you, and you
shall be satisfied. "

Hardly a day passes that we have not sinned or not carried out the obligatory act that Allah has enjoined upon us. However religious and pious we try to be, we may find it difficult to meet all our obligations. We must try as far as possible to keep onto the straight path. For those who strive on this path and try to please Allah Ta'ala and His beloved Prophet (Sallallahu alaihi wasallam), there is hope of intercession from the Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu alaihi wasallam).

[ElDiablo]

There are many Ayaats from the Holy Quran which mention intercession and pleading by the Holy Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) for his Ummah. There will be no intercession for those whom Allah or his Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) is not pleased with or those who do not believe in intercession, as has been made clear by these Ayaats. These quotations make it impossible not to believe in intercession, and would amount to not believing in the Holy Qur'an.

We sent not an apostle, but to be obeyed, in accordance with the will of Allah. If they had only, when they were unjust to themselves, come unto thee and asked Allah's forgiveness, and the Messenger had asked forgiveness for them, they would have found Allah indeed Oft-returning, Most Merciful.
(Surah Nisaa 4:Ayat 64)


Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and the earth in six days, and is firmly established on the throne (of authority), regulating and governing all things. No intercessor (can plead with Him) except after His leave (hath been obtained). This is Allah your Lord; Him therefore serve ye: will ye not receive admonition?
(Surah Yunus 10:Ayat 3) 10


On that Day shall no intercession avail except for those for whom permission has been granted by (Allah) Most Gracious and whose word is acceptable to Him.
(Surah Taha 20; Ayat 109)


Verily the Day of sorting out is the time appointed for all of them. The Day when no protector can avail his client in aught and no help can they receive. Except such as receive Allah's Mercy, for He is Exalted in Might, Most Merciful.
(Surah Dukhan; Ayaats 40-42)


Know you therefore that there is no worshipping save Allah and O beloved, ask forgiveness for the sins of your near ones and for general Muslim men and women. And Allah knows Your moving about in the day and your taking rest by night.
(Surah Mohammad 47: Ayat 19)



None shall have the power of intercession, but such a one as has received permission (or promise) from (Allah) Most Gracious.
(Surah Mariam 19, Ayat 87)


Btw, these are only a few, I have since read a lot more to prove intercession is allowed. Proof in Quran and Hadith BUT bear in mind...only for the beleivers who were sinful NOT for the non beleivers.

[On-The-Run]

Just had to drop a message here...

Keeping it simple...

May Allah (swt) give us all the "taufeeq" to carry out "all" the duties that he has set for us.... May he shower his mercy and blessings upon us aswell as "hadayat" hadayat being something you can pray for the non-believers...

To the topic i was reading five times a day not so long ago (peace of heart and also mind) May Allah (swt) give me and all brothers & sisters the strenght needed to carry this and all other duties out...