24 civilians killed by troops (liberators)

[NYzNiCCa]

so this is wha your fellow friends are doing huh?

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/05/26/marines.haditha/

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- An ongoing military investigation supports allegations that U.S. Marines in November killed 24 innocent Iraqi civilians without being provoked, senior Pentagon sources said Friday.

Charges, including murder, could soon be filed against Marines allegedly involved, the sources said.

The killings reportedly occurred while troops from the 3rd Battalion, 1st Marines were searching for insurgents who planted a roadside bomb that killed a member of the unit.

The Marines originally had reported that 15 civilians were killed by a roadside bomb in Haditha, a city along the Euphrates River in western Iraq. The Marines later suggested the civilians may have been caught in a firefight.

However, photographs being reviewed by investigators "are inconsistent with how the Marines claim the Iraqis died," according to a military source familiar with the investigation. (Watch the Pentagon investigate civilian deaths -- 2:25)

An Iraqi human rights group, Hammurabi Human Rights Association, caught the scene on video, which was obtained by Time magazine. A criminal investigation ensued. Time Warner is the parent company of Time magazine and CNN.


GOOD WORK....its fuckin rediculous to see you sit here day and night and post...fuckin rediculous!

[musicchic33]

don't start ish :hand:

[Whizkid786]

Are you talking to Johnny K-bar?

[NYzNiCCa]

Are you talking to Johnny K-bar?

he always defended this war....so i wanna talk to him about his fellow buddies shooting down lil kids...how fun is it? but at the sametime talking to everyone else..let me change the title hold up

[NYzNiCCa]

don't start ish :hand:

i never start shit...i take the shit already dumped on the street and kick it back to the rightfully owners face.

[musicchic33]

he always defended this war....so i wanna talk to him about his fellow buddies shooting down lil kids...how fun is it? but at the sametime talking to everyone else..let me change the title hold up

how the heck are you going to hold him responsible for that?..

[Whizkid786]

In all seriousness I dont care how much of a nice guy he is, I wouldnt put on the U.S. Army's uniform and go to Iraq just to have barbeques

[NYzNiCCa]

how the heck are you going to hold him responsible for that?..

im not holding him responsible....merely trying to understand how abusing people, humiliating them, killing them shot dead is liberating.....and please stop defending e-buddies...

[Cunard]

i guess it would be ok if sunnis killed a few hundred iraqis every week if they were shia...no harm done then......only allah may judge those muslims

at least the americans are judging there soliders and there actions now....

[takemeasiam]

its sad. 30,000 of our troops have already died in Iraq and stupid Bush wants to fight till like 2010 ... its like he wants to kill 30,000 more. thats retarded.

[NYzNiCCa]

In all seriousness I dont care how much of a nice guy he is, I wouldnt put on the U.S. Army's uniform and go to Iraq just to have barbeques

thats exactly my point....

[Cunard]

its sad. 30,000 of our troops have already died in Iraq and stupid Bush wants to fight till like 2010 ... its like he wants to kill 30,000 more. thats retarded.

try more like around 2400 troops killed

[NYzNiCCa]

i guess it would be ok if sunnis killed a few hundred iraqis every week if they were shia...no harm done then......only allah may judge those muslims

at least the americans are judging there soliders and there actions now....

u stupid piece of shit...i never justify sunni vs shia killings....but calling urself liberators and killin innocent kids...r u fucking out of your mind?

[NYzNiCCa]

try more like around 2400 troops killed

yeah and lets not talk about how many iraqi civilians died becuz of this bogus war.

[takemeasiam]

try more like around 2400 troops killed

no its 30,000 ... its a known fact as of now.

[musicchic33]

im not holding him responsible....merely trying to understand how abusing people, humiliating them, killing them shot dead is liberating.....and please stop defending e-buddies...

You do understand he can't control the actions of others..and he wasn't involved in that incident, right? :ugh:

and I'm not defending him..I dont' even know him

[ZzoO]

In all seriousness I dont care how much of a nice guy he is, I wouldnt put on the U.S. Army's uniform and go to Iraq just to have barbeques


well if ur in the army/marines/whatever u gotta go when ur called.. and u gotta do what ur told to do.. u dont have much say

[Cunard]

u stupid piece of shit...i never justify sunni vs shia killings....but calling urself liberators and killin innocent kids...r u fucking out of your mind?

so let me get this straight...the action of some stupid trigger happy troops is the image reped by the entire US army...the entire populattion of the 1.5 million american troops that have rotated in and out of Iraq?

so because of this can i put a blanket image on all muslims out there as being savage morans waving korans in the air who enjoy killing 50 year old female aid workers?

i really doubt it.....i reallly do....

[jardras]

and terrorists end up killing more innocent civilians then u.s soldiers ever could.

[takemeasiam]

and terrorists end up killing more innocent civilians then u.s soldiers ever could.

yeah good point. but terrorists arent always non-americans; they can even be soldiers too.

[NYzNiCCa]

are you kidding me? ask him to tell you the gruesome stories about what they do to their own people over there daily. no wait, that would put isolated stories like this to shame and make Marines look like innocent puppies thus defeating the purpose of the thread. not to mention the fact that it would take one hell of a long time to tell them all and they would truly horrify everyone. silly me.

and are you people even aware of what Kamran's job actually is?

jackass....do u know wha civil war is? do u know wha is sparking that shit right now? this war started this whole shit...yeah it did...

[Rcade]

its an unjust war...they're killing civilians....they should be labeled terrorists

[NYzNiCCa]

well if ur in the army/marines/whatever u gotta go when ur called.. and u gotta do what ur told to do.. u dont have much say

im sure BBQs they have in IRAQ are better than the ones we do.

[musicchic33]

jackass....do u know wha civil war is? do u know wha is sparking that shit right now? this war started this whole shit...yeah it did...

are you serious?

that's implying everything was fine before this war...which is clearly, WRONG

[NYzNiCCa]

yeah, you are right. the Iraqi citizens were living the high life before this war. innocent people weren't being butchered, tortured, or living in fear at all.

ur fuckin stupid....so if a person is being abused in their house....r u telling me its ok to go in and shoot em dead and say hey their life wasnt any better to begin with so its ok? :gtfo:

[NYzNiCCa]

are you serious?

that's implying everything was fine before this war...which is clearly, WRONG

i know it wasnt....what im saying is THIS UNJUST WAR CAUSED SO MANY LIVES! and it fuckin pisses me off to read about troops shooting down lil kids and women for fun.

[Cunard]

jackass....do u know wha civil war is? do u know wha is sparking that shit right now? this war started this whole shit...yeah it did...

the war didnt trigger this civil war......troops went in to remove saddam from power which they did.........what started the civl war was sunnis who were pissed that they just lost power targeting shias.....and now shia are taking there revenge on sunnis......and back and forth...back and forth......and because of this civil war.....US troops arent gonna leave cause that would make an even bigger power vacuum

so until the religious nuts stop there infighting......only two things will change......the number of US troops killed with rise....and the number of civilians killed by soilders and militants will rise

[NYzNiCCa]

the war didnt trigger this civil war......troops went in to remove saddam from power which they did.........what started the civl war was sunnis who were pissed that they just lost power targeting shias.....and now shia are taking there revenge on sunnis......and back and forth...back and forth......and because of this civil war.....US troops arent gonna leave cause that would make an even bigger power vacuum

so until the religious nuts stop there infighting......only two things will change......the number of US troops killed with rise....and the number of civilians killed by soilders and militants will rise

all the reasons given to justify this war were false....that ends ur discussion.

[musicchic33]

i know it wasnt....what im saying is THIS UNJUST WAR CAUSED SO MANY LIVES! and it fuckin pisses me off to read about troops shooting down lil kids and women for fun.

it's war, dude..

not saying i agree with it, but yeah, peopel are bound to die

[ZzoO]

im sure BBQs they have in IRAQ are better than the ones we do.


haha im sure. But i was gonna join the army as well.. and if i did i wouldve been called for duty.. and id be doing the same as him...

and im against the war.. but that doesnt change the fact that i would have to go there... the army is more like a job.. and u gotta do it

[NYzNiCCa]

name calling. cute.

so you are saying things were peaceful before the war? ok. and that people killing their own people is somehow better, more justified? alright.

its not justified....how come we dnot do anything in sudan and all those other countries? i guess were just scared of another black hawk down episode huh? remeber somalia incident mcuh?

[NYzNiCCa]

haha im sure. But i was gonna join the army as well.. and if i did i wouldve been called for duty.. and id be doing the same as him...

and im against the war.. but that doesnt change the fact that i would have to go there... the army is more like a job.. and u gotta do it

i wouldnt have gone....sorry its a job but my inner conscious wouldnt have let me.

[Cunard]

all the reasons given to justify this war were false....that ends ur discussion.

lol.....i see you cant respond with logic


:wavey:

[Whizkid786]

Listen allright, the world is run by the illluminati. They are a select few, Zionists included, who plan everything that goes on in the world. Muslims are their biggest enemies and shit happens.


The stars will always shine
the birds will always sing
Coca-Cola classic is always the real thing
Coca-Cola classic is always the one
When there's always thirst, there's always Coca-Cola yeah....

[NYzNiCCa]

it's war, dude..

not saying i agree with it, but yeah, peopel are bound to die

thats a nice way to look at it....very western point of view u got there.

[NYzNiCCa]

lol.....i see you cant respond with logic


:wavey:

ofcourse not....cuz im working with FACTS you moron.

[musicchic33]

thats a nice way to look at it....very western point of view u got there.

whatever, fobface

:wavey: gnite

:)

[NYzNiCCa]

whatever, fobface

:wavey: gnite

:)

im not in a good mood but gnite :hug: talk to u tomorrow. :D

[dj XeNo]

who do you think has their head more up thier ass, cunard or space cowboy?

[Cunard]

its not justified....how come we dnot do anything in sudan and all those other countries? i guess were just scared of another black hawk down episode huh? remeber somalia incident mcuh?


Troops did go to Sudan....and the religious nuts turned the whole thing into Islam vs the west

after the Black Hawk Down incident the US bowed out of the conflict.....and as u can see my recent headline news....Somolia to this day is shithole of a country with no real govt...no real future, and running gun battles between militias.....good to see that the muslim world has joined hands in helping Somolia get back on its feet :rolleyes:

[ZzoO]

i wouldnt have gone....sorry its a job but my inner conscious wouldnt have let me.


then ud be in jail.. haha..


and u cant leave the country and go somewhere else either..

[Cunard]

ofcourse not....cuz im working with FACTS you moron.

ah yes....facts such as some US troops killing civilians is bad......but militants killing civilians is grade A ok

[NYzNiCCa]

who do you think has their head more up thier ass, cunard or space cowboy?

thats a hard one.

[anorexorcist]

what do you want to do, march up to washington or fly to iraq and dish out your own form of justice? please, be my guest and watch yourself made a fool out of on national television.

[NYzNiCCa]

then ud be in jail.. haha..


and u cant leave the country and go somewhere else either..

btw: how many yrs do u get for refusing to show up for duty?

[Rcade]

i'm pretty sure bush didn't care about the atrocities ppl were facing in iraq prior to the war......it has always has been about oil...he used the weapons of mass destruction BS to scare the pussy american public into buying this war as being legitimate....the civil war is a result of this mess bush has created....lets attack north korea next, then iran, syria...world will be safer/peaceful...all we need is "war" to get to it

[Felonius Monk]

nvm

[Muslima786]

lol.....i see you cant respond with logic


:wavey:
and you supposedly are? You're only retailiating by turning tables on the sunni/shia conflict and convieniently deflecting the argument away from the U.S actions in Iraq. Iraq was attacked under false pretenses, many civilians have died as a result of this illegtimate war and continue to do so. If you're not willing to acknowledge these facts, then you must be living under a rock or suffering from tunnel vision. Your only justification for the U.S's actions is by pointing out the fallacies of the Sunni/Shia conflict. Two wrongs never made anything right.

[NYzNiCCa]

ah yes....facts such as some US troops killing civilians is bad......but militants killing civilians is grade A ok

who said its ok? i still dont understand where ur coming from. I said if this war hasnt happened ALL THOSE DEAD PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE STILL BE BREATHING TODAY! yes under a retarded leader but they would stil be alive.

[PAKISTANI_SHER]

well if ur in the army/marines/whatever u gotta go when ur called.. and u gotta do what ur told to do.. u dont have much say


lol ..wat a stupid thing to say...
thats an excuse a sniper would use ...that he got ordered to do da killin...

[NYzNiCCa]

hey guess what? you don't know a fraction of what is being done out there or where troops are. don't be so sure things aren't being done or planned that haven't been publicized. in fact, be sure they are.

oh yeah everything is done under the nose.....man i loved it how in MI3 that rabbit foot was suppose to end up in the MIddLE EAST to clean up the place....that was classic!

[Muslima786]

lol.

I wasn't aware that the words "war" and "invasion" were so easily interchangeable.
or "liberation"

[NYzNiCCa]

lol.

I wasn't aware that the words "war" and "invasion" were so easily interchangeable.

i know right...they DID NOT ATTACK US! these people are :nuts:

[mamamia!]

i've heard that when you take a political tryant off the chair, there is usually a mass killing in order for the new system to work again...i don't know if that pertains to things now-days, the theory seems outdated and archaic. iraqi's are guinea pigs to them.

[ZzoO]

btw: how many yrs do u get for refusing to show up for duty?

i dont kno. but u ll be taking it up the ass for that long in jail. :neutral:

[NYzNiCCa]

i've heard that when you take a political tryant off the chair, there is usually a mass killing in order for the new system to work again...i don't know if that pertains to things now-days, the theory seems outdated and archaic. iraqi's are guinea pigs to them.

more like the whole continent....this shit is gonna spread over in other countries....its gonna turn into SUNNIS VS SHIAS!

[NYzNiCCa]

i dont kno. but u ll be taking it up the ass for that long in jail. :neutral:

hahaah one time would be bad enuff let alone years....but i heard if ur muslim they are good to u... :D

[Irreligious Left]

so this is wha your fellow friends are doing huh?

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/05/26/marines.haditha/

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- An ongoing military investigation supports allegations that U.S. Marines in November killed 24 innocent Iraqi civilians without being provoked, senior Pentagon sources said Friday.

Charges, including murder, could soon be filed against Marines allegedly involved, the sources said.

The killings reportedly occurred while troops from the 3rd Battalion, 1st Marines were searching for insurgents who planted a roadside bomb that killed a member of the unit.

The Marines originally had reported that 15 civilians were killed by a roadside bomb in Haditha, a city along the Euphrates River in western Iraq. The Marines later suggested the civilians may have been caught in a firefight.

However, photographs being reviewed by investigators "are inconsistent with how the Marines claim the Iraqis died," according to a military source familiar with the investigation. (Watch the Pentagon investigate civilian deaths -- 2:25)

An Iraqi human rights group, Hammurabi Human Rights Association, caught the scene on video, which was obtained by Time magazine. A criminal investigation ensued. Time Warner is the parent company of Time magazine and CNN.


GOOD WORK....its fuckin rediculous to see you sit here day and night and post...fuckin rediculous!

Huh?

[Felonius Monk]

Whatever you might think of the initial invasion, now that its done, the current situation is probably better off with the troops there. If they pulled out, a full blown civil war is guaranteed.

It doesnt have to fair or pretty. Its just the best that can be done in the current situation.

[Cunard]

and you supposedly are? You're only retailiating by turning tables on the sunni/shia conflict and convieniently deflecting the argument away from the U.S actions in Iraq. Iraq was attacked under false pretenses, many civilians have died as a result of this illegtimate war and continue to do so. If you're not willing to acknowledge these facts, then you must be living under a rock or suffering from tunnel vision. Your only justification for the U.S's actions is by pointing out the fallacies of the Sunni/Shia conflict. Two wrongs never made anything right.

two wrongs never made a right....but somtimes a lesser evil must be chosen for the well being of everyone...in this case...removing Saddam from power under over flated comments was the right choice

Saddam had no problem in invading and raping Kuwait or invading Saudi Arabia, or gasing the kurds....Saddam was a madman who could have devastated economies around the world by attacking Saudi or Kuwaiti oil reserves.....again.......better for him gone then in power

[ZzoO]

lol, that too.


well it was invasion.. but had to be changed to war for political reasons..


war.. well that didnt last since the main reason didnt exist.. wmds


so they had to change it to liberation...


it was funny though when bush said "they dont like us because we are occupying their country.. heck i wouldnt like it if someone occupied my home" hahaha quoted but dont remember the exact words..

[mamamia!]

more like the whole continent....this shit is gonna spread over in other countries....its gonna turn into SUNNIS VS SHIAS!
:neutral:

america suceeds yet again, and creates even more enemies.

[NYzNiCCa]

two wrongs never made a right....but somtimes a lesser evil must be chosen for the well being of everyone...in this case...removing Saddam from power under over flated comments was the right choice

Saddam had no problem in invading and raping Kuwait or invading Saudi Arabia, or gasing the kurds....Saddam was a madman who could have devastated economies around the world by attacking Saudi or Kuwaiti oil reserves.....again.......better for him gone then in power

i guess what your saying is better that your alive then them? yeap lets start predicting wha every other ruthless ruler will do and start taking them out and who cares if the country will turn into hell....so are we gonna do anything bout fidel castro or his best friend....i forget his name.

[dj XeNo]

two wrongs never made a right....but somtimes a lesser evil must be chosen for the well being of everyone...in this case...removing Saddam from power under over flated comments was the right choice

Saddam had no problem in invading and raping Kuwait or invading Saudi Arabia, or gasing the kurds....Saddam was a madman who could have devastated economies around the world by attacking Saudi or Kuwaiti oil reserves.....again.......better for him gone then in power

sounds like bush you are talking about.

[Cunard]

more like the whole continent....this shit is gonna spread over in other countries....its gonna turn into SUNNIS VS SHIAS!

lol.....only Pakistan and Iraq have problems with this stuff...and to some extent Iran has some internal issues with sunnis and kurds

in the end its the militants seeking paradise that will bring this conflict to other nations...not the american troops

[ZzoO]

Whatever you might think of the initial invasion, now that its done, the current situation is probably better off with the troops there. If they pulled out, a full blown civil war is guaranteed.

It doesnt have to fair or pretty. Its just the best that can be done in the current situation.


that is inevitable.. because w/o a centralized gov.. the locals are gonna take over.. so basically iraq is screwed any way u look at it...

[NYzNiCCa]

well it was invasion.. but had to be changed to war for political reasons..


war.. well that didnt last since the main reason didnt exist.. wmds


so they had to change it to liberation...


it was funny though when bush said "they dont like us because we are occupying their country.. heck i wouldnt like it if someone occupied my home" hahaha quoted but dont remember the exact words..

:lol: i would destroy them like i was destroying cars the other nite.

[Cunard]

lol.

I wasn't aware that the words "war" and "invasion" were so easily interchangeable.

invasion is war.....Iraqs military put up a fight...and now the word is replaced with "guerrilla war" since its militants who are fighting the American troops...some of these militants are Iraq while some are muslims who have come from outside Iraq to fight "jihad" or whatever it is they call it

[dj XeNo]

invasion is war.....Iraqs military put up a fight...and now the word is replaced with "guerrilla war" since its militants who are fighting the American troops...some of these militants are Iraq while some are muslims who have come from outside Iraq to fight "jihad" or whatever it is they call it

lol cunard what's a militant?

[Cunard]

Right.

I'm sure the future generations of Iraq have much to be thankful for. Are you aware of the exponential increase in birth defects resulting from DU munitions that these so-called liberators use? I'm a little shocked if that's your view of a "better off" situation.


let me ask...are the majority of South Koreans, Germans, Japanese, Argentinians, Vietamese etc.....happy or pissed at the americans for interferring?


cause all these countries...even where the US lost such as Vietnam, have excellent relations with the US

[ZzoO]

:lol: i would destroy them like i was destroying cars the other nite.


hahah

:hyper:

[NYzNiCCa]

invasion is war.....Iraqs military put up a fight...and now the word is replaced with "guerrilla war" since its militants who are fighting the American troops...some of these militants are Iraq while some are muslims who have come from outside Iraq to fight "jihad" or whatever it is they call it

iigh so tell me this....peopel who saw those troops shooting those kids and women...what is gonna be their next step? ur telling me they wont pick up weapons to put up a fight....

remember this I AINT NO KILLA BUT DONT PUSH ME REVENGE IS LIKE THE SWEETEST JOY NEXT TO GETTING PUSSY...what you did to them will be done to u...thats how the world works.

[Ghulabo]

so because of this can i put a blanket image on all muslims out there as being savage morans waving korans in the air who enjoy killing 50 year old female aid workers?



might i remind you, that IS the image portrayed about us muslims. every little thing we do whether it's out of defence or not is portrayed as a terrorist act and we are portrayed as savages, inhumane and uncivilized people. =)

[ZzoO]

:hyper:

[NYzNiCCa]

hahah

:hyper:

that $90 dollar ticket. :(

[Cunard]

lol cunard what's a militant?

depends on what side your own.....for some...iraqi militants are upholding sunni arab pride...other look at them as wild dogs tarnishing Islams image....while yet others just see them as nameless terrorists...all really depends on where you stand

[NYzNiCCa]

Of course. Political correctness. What would the people back home say if CNN headlines carried the title "The invasion of Iraq" instead of "War in Iraq?" They are excellent the spin doctors.

lmao. Bush, what a gem.

3 WORDS FOR YOU



"BRING IT ON!"

[ZzoO]

that $90 dollar ticket. :(


karma man karma.. hahaha u kno it..

[NYzNiCCa]

karma man karma.. hahaha u kno it..
i hate chu! i thought u were my brother...u shoud have punched that cop and taken my id away...so we could flee without a 90 dollar ticket.

[Muslima786]

two wrongs never made a right....but somtimes a lesser evil must be chosen for the well being of everyone...in this case...removing Saddam from power under over flated comments was the right choice

Saddam had no problem in invading and raping Kuwait or invading Saudi Arabia, or gasing the kurds....Saddam was a madman who could have devastated economies around the world by attacking Saudi or Kuwaiti oil reserves.....again.......better for him gone then in power

lol madman? lay off the rhetoric will ya? Im sure your aware of the fact that there are and were many ruthless rulers out there ,out which some have been supported and sustained by the US. Saddam is a saint compared to Pinochet, Suharto et al (which were supported by the U.S). Anyways only one conclusion can be drawn this, Iraq was invaded for other cynical reasons not the half arsed reasons the U.S govt and you present.

[dj XeNo]

depends on what side your own.....for some...iraqi militants are upholding sunni arab pride...other look at them as wild dogs tarnishing Islams image....while yet others just see them as nameless terrorists...all really depends on where you stand

how can you give me a definition by using the word im asking a definition for?

i didn't understand your post since I got lost in the grammatical fog that surrounded it...

also, how come U.S soldiers aren't called "militants", since in fact they do belong to a military.

or do you have to Muslim to be a "militant" ?

[Cunard]

iigh so tell me this....peopel who saw those troops shooting those kids and women...what is gonna be their next step? ur telling me they wont pick up weapons to put up a fight....

remember this I AINT NO KILLA BUT DONT PUSH ME REVENGE IS LIKE THE SWEETEST JOY NEXT TO GETTING PUSSY...what you did to them will be done to u...thats how the world works.

all those kids that saw there friends getting killed will be angry at the americans...they will forget about any and all abuses commited by Saddams men and will only remember that it was Americans that killed there parents and there friends...........and yes its likly they will pick up arms when they are of age.....and thats really the sad fact......this group of american soliders that commited this terrorist act on civilians should be punished to the max so that it sets and example to other troops that such actions will no go unpunished

[Felonius Monk]

Right.

I'm sure the future generations of Iraq have much to be thankful for. Are you aware of the exponential increase in birth defects resulting from DU munitions that these so-called liberators use? I'm a little shocked if that's your view of a "better off" situation.
Its better because there's still some semblance of control. There are a half a dozen examples of the ruin a civil war causes that can still be seen in various parts of the world. There's close to zero chance that a government can be established and be able to govern without the help of a military force. They don't have one. And the shi'ia sunni rift is deep enough for the idea of a joint government to be unrealistic. Of course it sucks. Whats the alternative?

[NYzNiCCa]

lol madman? lay off the rhetoric will ya? Im sure your aware of the fact that there are and were many ruthless rulers out there ,out which some have been supported and sustained by the US. Saddam is a saint compared to Pinochet, Suharto et al (which were supported by the U.S). Anyways only one conclusion can be drawn this, Iraq was invaded for other cynical reasons not the half arsed reasons the U.S govt and you present.

:love:

[ZzoO]

i hate chu! i thought u were my brother...u shoud have punched that cop and taken my id away...so we could flee without a 90 dollar ticket.


i was really in the mood for a hot pursuit... i mean we wouldve been stopped at the next check point too.. it wouldve been a night to remember..

[NYzNiCCa]

Its better because there's still some semblance of control. There are a half a dozen examples of the ruin a civil war causes that can still be seen in various parts of the world. There's close to zero chance that a government can be established and be able to govern without the help of a military force. They don't have one. And the shi'ia sunni rift is deep enough for the idea of a joint government to be unrealistic. Of course it sucks. Whats the alternative?

perhaps establish an american government. :dunno:

[NYzNiCCa]

i was really in the mood for a hot pursuit... i mean we wouldve been stopped at the next check point too.. it wouldve been a night to remember..

i know right...u gotta start playing GTA MAN! im telling u!

[dj XeNo]

i have a question. are muslims fighting in the U.S army considered "militants?"

[Muslima786]

I didn't say everything. But what the general public knows is always tip of the iceberg only. And I have no idea what you are talking about because I don't watch that shit.

All I am saying here is it is unhealthy to look at things from one viewpoint and come to a judgement without even considering the other first. And considering we will never know all there is to know, coming to firm conclusions on this subject and declaring the devil is shaky (and biased) anyway because one has to fill in a lot of blanks with guesses, assumptions, and heresay. And in the case of a lot of people, these are uneducated it seems.
and what were you doing just a few posts before. Thats right passing off firm conclusions and judgements about the iraqi insurgency. The reason why the general public lives under the rock is because of the media.

[NYzNiCCa]

i have a question. are muslims fighting in the U.S army considered "militants?"

:lol:

[Cunard]

how can you give me a definition by using the word im asking a definition for?

i didn't understand your post since I got lost in the grammatical fog that surrounded it...

also, how come U.S soldiers aren't called "militants", since in fact they do belong to a military.

or do you have to Muslim to be a "militant" ?

u asked me what a militant was...and i told u what an iraqi miliant was...infact i gave u three things a militant could be depending on what side of the fence one stood......also i never used the word in my definition...you just dont understand what i said...perhaps because of my grammer or perhaps who dont really care what i have to say...i dont know

american troops are part of a uniform army.....the people fighting the troops are not.....Iraqi troops fighting the americans were not called militants by the media...they were called soilders/troops/republican gaurd troops etc.....and the word "militant" does not come from the word "military"....it comes from the word "militia"

no u dont have to be muslim to be a militant.......there have been sikh militants, basque militants, tamil militants etc..

[ZzoO]

i know right...u gotta start playing GTA MAN! im telling u!


i do man.. nfs u gotta run away from cops... i can.. i got the moves.. haha



its a little different in real life.. but i can pull it off..

[Cunard]

Um, no, as a matter of fact it is not - it goes against principles of war, and generally accepted wartime rules. This invasion resulted in an unfair state of warfare, where the party being invaded has no choice but to put up a fight. Do you honestly expect them to just sit there as their country is pummeled with bombs?

Call it "guerrilla war"; call it whatever you will. It's self-protection, and an attempt to protect your country from unwelcome outside forces.

but see...heres the thing........majority of Iraq is Shia.....majority of those fighting US troops and majority of those targeting civilians on a day to day basis are sunnis...who only form 20% of Iraq and lost power when Saddam lost power


please...look up the meaning of "war"...Saddam never lived up to his end hence he got taken to war......it wasnt some of the hip war...US troops massed on the ground for months while Saddam did not back down....hence the US went to war.....it doesnt get much easier to understand then that

[dj XeNo]

u asked me what a militant was...and i told u what an iraqi miliant was...infact i gave u three things a militant could be depending on what side of the fence one stood......also i never used the word in my definition...you just dont understand what i said...perhaps because of my grammer or perhaps who dont really care what i have to say...i dont know

american troops are part of a uniform army.....the people fighting the troops are not.....Iraqi troops fighting the americans were not called militants by the media...they were called soilders/troops/republican gaurd troops etc.....and the word "militant" does not come from the word "military"....it comes from the word "militia"

no u dont have to be muslim to be a militant.......there have been sikh militants, basque militants, tamil militants etc..

this is a much better definition, thank you.

[NYzNiCCa]

i do man.. nfs u gotta run away from cops... i can.. i got the moves.. haha



its a little different in real life.. but i can pull it off..

i try so hard not to buy electronics but i think i will have to get PS3!
graphics on XBOX360 = :love: imagine ps3!

[iintoxiicatin]

it's war, dude..

not saying i agree with it, but yeah, peopel are bound to die

ok. what i dont get is how easily you can say...'people are bound to die'
the only reason why u might even say this so easily is because you have no loss because of this war. ure not sitting in iraq seeing your family getting shot
what happens to all the kids who have to witness the death of their parents? or the parents who witness the deaths of their precious children. cmon now this aint some stupid fuckin joke. its reality, you guys can say its justifiable only because ure not their witnessing it for urselves. and the media only shows what needs to be shown. not what actually happens, theyll broadcast anything 24/7/365 but will they do that for an 'invasion' if thats what u wanna call it. i didn't think so either.

[ZzoO]

i try so hard not to buy electronics but i think i will have to get PS3!
graphics on XBOX360 = :love: imagine ps3!


xbox360 has been hacked.. i can do it.. haha..


u just need to get it now.. w/ a toshiba drive..

[NYzNiCCa]

xbox360 has been hacked.. i can do it.. haha..


u just need to get it now.. w/ a toshiba drive..

what does it do different after hacking it?

[Muslima786]

ok. what i dont get is how easily you can say...'people are bound to die'
the only reason why u might even say this so easily is because you have no loss because of this war. ure not sitting in iraq seeing your family getting shot
what happens to all the kids who have to witness the death of their parents? or the parents who witness the deaths of their precious children. cmon now this aint some stupid fuckin joke. its reality, you guys can say its justifiable only because ure not their witnessing it for urselves. and the media only shows what needs to be shown. not what actually happens, theyll broadcast anything 24/7/365 but will they do that for an 'invasion' if thats what u wanna call it. i didn't think so either.
:hug:

[(outlandish)]

he always defended this war....so i wanna talk to him about his fellow buddies shooting down lil kids...how fun is it? but at the sametime talking to everyone else..let me change the title hold up


he's in denial... if i were in the same position i would try to find justification too..

[NYzNiCCa]

ok. what i dont get is how easily you can say...'people are bound to die'
the only reason why u might even say this so easily is because you have no loss because of this war. ure not sitting in iraq seeing your family getting shot
what happens to all the kids who have to witness the death of their parents? or the parents who witness the deaths of their precious children. cmon now this aint some stupid fuckin joke. its reality, you guys can say its justifiable only because ure not their witnessing it for urselves. and the media only shows what needs to be shown. not what actually happens, theyll broadcast anything 24/7/365 but will they do that for an 'invasion' if thats what u wanna call it. i didn't think so either.

that type of view is whats fucked up about people.....hey fuck them as long as i am safe n sound.

[iintoxiicatin]

:hug:
thank you kindly. :bhapi:

[Felonius Monk]

perhaps establish an american government. :dunno:
Thats obviously not the solution, but a pullout will be disastrous. Take a look at the closest parallel - Afghanistan. The US maintained an interest as long as the Cold War lasted and then simply dopped it when the Soviet Union pulled out. The state Afghanistan was in at that stage is essentially what would happen to Iraq now. Take a look at Afghanistan now, 25 years down the line. Its still pretty much lawless. The infighting and power grabbing goes on as usual. Average life expectancy is 44 years. That country is a disaster zone. Iraq could easily end up the same way, possibly worse, since the balance between the split communities isnt as skewed as it was in Afghanistan and on top of that, all the oil floating around makes the stakes higher.

[ZzoO]

what does it do different after hacking it?


no need to buy games.. haha


shit the games are expensive.. 60 each.. i hack em cause i like doing it.. i dont play that much..

ive done ps2 and xbox

[NYzNiCCa]

he's in denial... if i were in the same position i would try to find justification too..

lol or spend time making signs....or post on RD.

[dj XeNo]

who knows if we really got Saddam, it might have been one of his doubles.

[Felonius Monk]

Basically, the situation is fucked now. You can harp on how Bush is a dumbass, and he is, but given the way things are now, the US needs to stay involved. Damage control, if nothing else.

[NYzNiCCa]

no need to buy games.. haha


shit the games are expensive.. 60 each.. i hack em cause i like doing it.. i dont play that much..

ive done ps2 and xbox

nice.....we will talk about this on SUNDAY! :D

[NYzNiCCa]

who knows if we really got Saddam, it might have been one of his doubles.

ahh fuck dont put more doubts in my head man....:no:

[iintoxiicatin]

that type of view is whats fucked up about people.....hey fuck them as long as i am safe n sound.
exactly people may not realize it but thats what their mentalities have gone to now. they really dont give a fuck about anyone, only themselves. and if bush really wanted to 'help iraqis' or innocent civilians why doesnt he go to every other country. pakistan for example, its supposed to be an islamic country...the supposed islamic republic of pakistan, but look at them now, modernization has taken its toll and young children listen to beats more than they listen to the azaan. look at other countries and other civilians who actually do need help. not the civilians who help u get oil by their own defeat.

[(outlandish)]

are you kidding me? ask him to tell you the gruesome stories about what they do to their own people over there daily. no wait, that would put isolated stories like this to shame and make Marines look like innocent puppies thus defeating the purpose of the thread. not to mention the fact that it would take one hell of a long time to tell them all and they would truly horrify everyone. silly me.

and are you people even aware of what Kamran's job actually is?


omg what they do to their OWN people... shut the hell up... when chaos, anarchy, and war occurs in a population of millions... SHIT happens... what happened during Katrina when there was no Authority... people were looting, killing, starving, and raping... the same thing happened in Iraq...

thats what happens in such situations.. it has been repeated in war zones all over the world... this war has caused all these problems.


and anyways its Their own f**king people... hmmm lets help them out by bombing their cities and destroying their infrastructure and government.. I guess Pearl Harbor was justified because of American treatment of Native Americans.. totally retarded analysis of the situation

[dj XeNo]

ahh fuck dont put more doubts in my head man....:no:

Mohammad Atta use to go to strip clubs...

[NYzNiCCa]

omg what they do to their OWN people... shut the hell up... when chaos, anarchy, and war occurs in a population of millions... SHIT happens... what happened during Katrina when there was no Authority... people were looting, killing, starving, and raping... the same thing happened in Iraq...

thats what happens in such situations.. it has been repeated in war zones all over the world... this war has caused all these problems.


and anyways its Their own f**king people... hmmm lets help them out by bombing their cities and destroying their infrastructure and government.. I guess Pearl Harbor was justified because of American treatment of Native Americans..

"PRESIDENT BUSH DOESNT CARE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE" ~Kanye

they couldnt avoid a disaster in their own country let alone fixing problems in others.

[iintoxiicatin]

are you kidding me? ask him to tell you the gruesome stories about what they do to their own people over there daily. no wait, that would put isolated stories like this to shame and make Marines look like innocent puppies thus defeating the purpose of the thread. not to mention the fact that it would take one hell of a long time to tell them all and they would truly horrify everyone. silly me.

and are you people even aware of what Kamran's job actually is?

gruesome stories? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? ask him to ask a person who has lost a loved one a gruesome story. honey, life isn't always abou defending people, its about realizing whats wrong and right. no one is actually blaming the man alone for doing what has happened yet you were so quick to defend him. the fact that he is a part of something thats not justifiable makes him as responsible for actions as it does others. defeating the purpose of a thread is not what you should look at either, the purpose of getting your own words across is what should matter. thats what most of us are doing. get it?

[ZzoO]

:hyper:

[ZzoO]

i love bush.

[NYzNiCCa]

:hyper:

:slap: stop it!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Muslima786]

It is something of a self-fulfilling prophecy to say that the people of that country will be unable to promptly form a government on their own, with no breakout of impending civil warfare.

Obviously - considering the state that these people have been living under, you can't expect them to form a joint, democratic government as soon as the dust settles. The former regime had only deepened that rift - but what good is a a swift, kick-in-the-ass invasion to bring down that regime without improving the state of affairs between the people, without improving infrastructure - basically, without any improvements at all? The Iraqi people aren't incompetent - sudden collapsation of a country's government would leave any nation in turmoil, and military presence needed. There is no alternative because the US gov't didn't allow for one. Well planned, to suit their own agenda
w3rd! There is no solution where the problem itself is not tackled. And its a bit too late to solve the problem unless we propel ourselves back in time. There will be no long term betterment of the lives of Iraqis. Yea the US will setup a puppet government and things would look rosy for a while. In the end of it all, Iraq would have no control over its resources and subsquently no power over their own affairs. And Iraq is just scratching the surface. This is only setting a precedence over what is yet to come. Thats right, a complete hegemony of the Middle East and control of its resources.

[Cunard]

It is something of a self-fulfilling prophecy to say that the people of that country will be unable to promptly form a government on their own, with no breakout of impending civil warfare.

Obviously - considering the state that these people have been living under, you can't expect them to form a joint, democratic government as soon as the dust settles. The former regime had only deepened that rift - but what good is a a swift, kick-in-the-ass invasion to bring down that regime without improving the state of affairs between the people, without improving infrastructure - basically, without any improvements at all? The Iraqi people aren't incompetent - sudden collapsation of a country's government would leave any nation in turmoil, and military presence needed. There is no alternative because the US gov't didn't allow for one. Well planned, to suit their own agenda

ah yes...to steal oil...just like the americans steel oil for all the muslims in the arab world

but yet these same nations are rolling in money...building billion dollar improvements to mecca, building rivers in the desert, building mega cities that rival cities in the west

must be a jewish conspiracy
:eek:

[NYzNiCCa]

i love bush.

clean shaved are better! :hand:

[NYzNiCCa]

Mohammad Atta use to go to strip clubs...

what a bad person he was....hes defintely not getting into heaven now. :no:

[Cunard]

w3rd! There is no solution where the problem itself is not tackled. And its a bit too late to solve the problem unless we propel ourselves back in time. There will be no long term betterment of the lives of Iraqis. Yea the US will setup a puppet government and things would look rosy for a while. In the end of it all, Iraq would have no control over its resources and subsquently no power over their own affairs. And Iraq is just scratching the surface. This is only setting a precedence over what is yet to come. Thats right, a complete hegemony of the Middle East and control of its resources.

a puppet govt that was elected by Iraqis.....interesting....a puppent govt which has had many members already killed or kidnapped to force them down....a puppet govt that is targeted by militants by kidnapping foreign embassy workers to force foreign govts to not recognize the iraqi puppet govt

interesting theory though

[dj XeNo]

what a bad person he was....hes defintely not getting into heaven now. :no:

he's still alive I chilled with him yesterday.

[ZzoO]

:slap: stop it!!!!!!!!!!!!


everyone is getting all work up.



as if their lives depend on it.

[(outlandish)]

ah yes...to steal oil...just like the americans steel oil for all the muslims in the arab world

but yet these same nations are rolling in money...building billion dollar improvements to mecca, building rivers in the desert, building mega cities that rival cities in the west

must be a jewish conspiracy
:eek:



mecca doesnt need oil money, it could run on pilgrimage "tourism"...

but its obvious America went into Iraq to install a puppet government that will supply them oil for the next decade.. you dont see them invading civil-war torn African nations to help the starving and poor but all of the sudden the poor Iraqis needed democracy, but not any of the other puppet dictatorships in the region

[dj XeNo]

mecca doesnt need oil money, it could run on pilgrimage "tourism"...

but its obvious America went into Iraq to install a puppet government that will supply them oil for the next decade.. you dont see them invading civil-war torn African nations to help the starving and poor but all of the sudden the poor Iraqis needed democracy, but not any of the other puppet dictatorships in the region

did you know that Hamas won in fair, democratic elections in Palestine but the U.S. said that they wouldn't support democracy in this scenario.

[ZzoO]

clean shaved are better! :hand:



well what do u like, bush, dick, colin. (before he resigned)


i pick bush.

[Felonius Monk]

It is something of a self-fulfilling prophecy to say that the people of that country will be unable to promptly form a government on their own, with no breakout of impending civil warfare.

Obviously - considering the state that these people have been living under, you can't expect them to form a joint, democratic government as soon as the dust settles. The former regime had only deepened that rift - but what good is a a swift, kick-in-the-ass invasion to bring down that regime without improving the state of affairs between the people, without improving infrastructure - basically, without any improvements at all? The Iraqi people aren't incompetent - sudden collapsation of a country's government would leave any nation in turmoil, and military presence needed. There is no alternative because the US gov't didn't allow for one. Well planned, to suit their own agenda
I'm talking about the present. We can all agree on how royally they fucked up in their 'war on terror' and its a waste of time as far as i'm concerned.

Right now there is a toothless government and no homegrown army or even police. Even the US army can't maintain order, and the lack of order has already shown itself to encourage communal violence. I dont see how a pullout at this stage will help. It would be the worst possible direction to take from a situation thats already very bad.

[NYzNiCCa]

he's still alive I chilled with him yesterday.

tell him i said that hes a very very bad person...

[Space-Cowboy]

who do you think has their head more up thier ass, cunard or space cowboy?

How cute, you thought of me when I wasn't around. I vote for you dipshit.


This thread belongs in Junk.












P.S.: Junk this thread.

[(outlandish)]

a puppet govt that was elected by Iraqis.....interesting....a puppent govt which has had many members already killed or kidnapped to force them down....a puppet govt that is targeted by militants by kidnapping foreign embassy workers to force foreign govts to not recognize the iraqi puppet govt

interesting theory though


yeah funny how Iyad Allawi, interim prime minister of Iraq, was recruited by the CIA in 1992

[Cunard]

mecca doesnt need oil money, it could run on pilgrimage "tourism"...

but its obvious America went into Iraq to install a puppet government that will supply them oil for the next decade.. you dont see them invading civil-war torn African nations to help the starving and poor but all of the sudden the poor Iraqis needed democracy, but not any of the other puppet dictatorships in the region


mecca's modernization came after oil revenues started flowing in...not before

the rest as already been addressed in this thread

[dj XeNo]

How cute, you thought of me when I wasn't around. I vote for you dipshit.


This thread belongs in Junk.









P.S.: Junk this thread.

I'm always thinking about you

[NYzNiCCa]

everyone is getting all work up.



as if their lives depend on it.

this is the only good thread made in a longtime...thats why everyone is jumping on it...and rightfully so!

[dj XeNo]

yeah funny how Iyad Allawi, interim prime minister of Iraq, was recruited by the CIA in 1992

its also ironic that the U.S supplied those weapons to Saddam in which he used to gas the kurds.

[Space-Cowboy]

I'm always thinking about you


You shouldn't, homosexuality is a sin in your religion. :idea:

[(outlandish)]

did you know that Hamas won in fair, democratic elections in Palestine but the U.S. said that they wouldn't support democracy in this scenario.


yeah man..so much for democracy... the longer the Muslim mainstream is not represented and allowed to express their beliefs in a organized public manner, the more people will turn to extremist elements..


example Busharraf and Pakistan

[iintoxiicatin]

How cute, you thought of me when I wasn't around. I vote for you dipshit.


This thread belongs in Junk.







P.S.: Junk this thread.

okay dipshit. how about we vote for you to belong in junk?
oh wait, shit-faced bastards belong in their own zone...
jerk-offs...i assume? or is that too nice of a place as well?



P.S. Smack this asswipe.

[dj XeNo]

You shouldn't, homosexuality is a sin in your religion. :idea:

not in a positive light.

[ZzoO]

this is the only good thread made in a longtime...thats why everyone is jumping on it...and rightfully so!


should end it with a closing statement.

[Cunard]

I was by no means justifying Saddam's actions. I was pointing out the fact that the way the US went about removing him and "liberating" the Iraqi people was rash, and not well planned out at all. Perhaps you need to look up the civilian death toll and tell me how easy to understand that is, considering all the "intelligent missile technology" that they've come up with. And by the way, regardless of whether it is the sunnis or the shi'ias fighting against US troops - a large portion of civilians killed are women and children, by US armed forces.



Anyway, oil. :drdodgy:

very true...the war was rushed and many generals have come out have said that more troops on the ground were needed.......another major mistake was the disbanding of the Iraqi military and starting fresh in remaking the Iraqi army

"smart" weapons have not really been used on a large scale in iraq since the opening days of the war

most civilians killed by the americans have been through mistaken targets or where militants are using the cover of heavly populated civilian areas, there are few instances where US troops are targeting and killing civilians on purpose...im sure there are isolated incidents here and there and those troops should be hung

[NYzNiCCa]

okay dipshit. how about we vote for you to belong in junk?
oh wait, shit-faced bastards belong in their own zone...
jerk-offs...i assume? or is that too nice of a place as well?



P.S. Smack this asswipe.

whatver doesnt suit their agenda belongs in junk n useless. :no:

[dj XeNo]

very true...the war was rushed and many generals have come out have said that more troops on the ground were needed.......another major mistake was the disbanding of the Iraqi military and starting fresh in remaking the Iraqi army

"smart" weapons have not really been used on a large scale in iraq since the opening days of the war

most civilians killed by the americans have been through mistaken targets or where militants are using the cover of heavly populated civilian areas, there are few instances where US troops are targeting and killing civilians on purpose...im sure there are isolated incidents here and there and those troops should be hung

shock and awe was the biggest isolated incident.

[Cunard]

yeah funny how Iyad Allawi, interim prime minister of Iraq, was recruited by the CIA in 1992

Allawi was also not elected...he was appointed


the current govt is elected

[Space-Cowboy]

okay dipshit. how about we vote for you to belong in junk?
oh wait, shit-faced bastards belong in their own zone...
jerk-offs...i assume? or is that too nice of a place as well?



P.S. Smack this asswipe.


That time of the month for you? Please keep quiet, your random brain farts aren't needed.

[Space-Cowboy]

whatver doesnt suit their agenda belongs in junk n useless. :no:


Enlighten me, what's my 'agenda'?

[Muslima786]

yeah funny how Iyad Allawi, interim prime minister of Iraq, was recruited by the CIA in 1992
Fuck it, dont even attempt to sway him with facts.

[Cunard]

shock and awe was the biggest isolated incident.

if it was...Baghdad wouldnt be standing right now, the city would be a giant pile of concrete and glass......thankfully most bombs hit there intended targets

[Cunard]

They could stop killing people by the thousands. I think that'd be a good direction to head in.

They could also stop leaving depleted uranium everywhere so that 60% of those hospitalised with cancer aren't children.

But seeing as how we're talking about the present - yes, there seems to be no hope even if they did pull out. A job well done on Operation Iraqi Freedom.

in 10-15 years iraq will be a reborn nation as long as shia-sunni violence dies down in the next little while...thus letting US troops leave...with the amount of oil revenue that could be coming into Iraq....Iraq can modernize very quickly if given the chance

take a look at Beruit, London, Frankfurt, or Tokyo...these modern cities look nothing like there past......Beruit is once again "the Paris" of the middle east...it only happend with foreign investment coming back in after the civil war within the nation ended

[dj XeNo]

if it was...Baghdad wouldnt be standing right now, the city would be a giant pile of concrete and glass......thankfully most bombs hit there intended targets

wow.

yes, most CLUSTER bombs did hit thier targets, effectively causing the most civilian casualties possible, thus resulting in a successful shock and awe campaign.

also destroyed were hospitals and bridges, water towers and other infrastructure targets, since these were the steps to liberation, considering iraqis don't need food, shelter, or water to survive.

[NYzNiCCa]

very true...the war was rushed and many generals have come out have said that more troops on the ground were needed.......another major mistake was the disbanding of the Iraqi military and starting fresh in remaking the Iraqi army

there are instances where US troops are targeting and killing civilians on purpose...im sure there are isolated incidents and those troops should be hung

that should be the final statement with this is an unjust war....which caused thousands of civilians casualty....and now Iraq is a hell hole! THANKS to DICK AND PUSSY i mean BUSH

[iintoxiicatin]

That time of the month for you? Please keep quiet, your random brain farts aren't needed.
No, as a matter of fact it is not that time of the month for me. Yet, I still have the urge to fuckin' smack you upside your shallow head. Isn't that wonderful? Imagine if I actually was pms'ing, ahh well lucky bastard you are.
And random brain farts, not something that happen to me...unlike you my knowledge is a power to me. not some shitty kid phrase as you have said.

so yeah in plain and simple english,
fuck you and go fuck yourself!
mmkay? :o

[Muslima786]

Yay modernisation!

http://www.brandonblog.homestead.com/files/photo-war-saddam_pinup2.jpg
:rofl: :rofl:

[Cunard]

wow.

yes, most CLUSTER bombs did hit thier targets, effectively causing the most civilian casualties possible, thus resulting in a successful shock and awe campaign.

also destroyed were hospitals and bridges, water towers and other infrastructure targets, since these were the steps to liberation, considering iraqis don't need food, shelter, or water to survive.

unguided cluster bombs were not used over cities...so no...the most civilian deaths did not happen

i never knew hospitals were targeted on purpose

bridges would be targeted since it would hinder Iraqi troop movements

water supplies would be hit.....also perventing Iraqi troops movements.....an army only moves with a full stomache

just as power plants were hit and radio and tv stations were hit

[ZzoO]

Yay modernisation!

http://www.brandonblog.homestead.com/files/photo-war-saddam_pinup2.jpg


worth1000.com


:lol:

[NYzNiCCa]

Yay modernisation!

http://www.brandonblog.homestead.com/files/photo-war-saddam_pinup2.jpg

:rofl: :rofl: :p :p

[Cunard]

Yay modernisation!

[IMG]

if moderization is so bad.....PIA flies out of toronto three time a week...im sure you can get a connecting flight on west jet or air canada from western canada to out east....perhaps some remote pind where modernization has reached yet is more your thing :dunno:

[dj XeNo]

unguided cluster bombs were not used over cities...so no...the most civilian deaths did not happen

i never knew hospitals were targeted on purpose

bridges would be targeted since it would hinder Iraqi troop movements

water supplies would be hit.....also perventing Iraqi troops movements.....an army only moves with a full stomache

just as power plants were hit and radio and tv stations were hit

actually the iraqi army moved during ramadan also.

so did the "militants"

and cluster bombs were used.

[Muslima786]

if moderization is so bad.....PIA flies out of toronto three time a week...im sure you can get a connecting flight on west jet or air canada from western canada to out east....perhaps some remote pind where modernization has reached yet is more your thing :dunno:
lol thats technology not modernization the two are diff in many ways.

[Cunard]

In some cases, this affected entire towns. Civilians need water to move as well.

they do...but preventing an army with guns moving is higher on a priority list then civilians who may be thirsty.......gotta tough it out...civilians can survive drinking somthing other then water while an army engaged in battle will not

[Space-Cowboy]

No, as a matter of fact it is not that time of the month for me. Yet, I still have the urge to fuckin' smack you upside your shallow head. Isn't that wonderful? Imagine if I actually was pms'ing, ahh well lucky bastard you are.
And random brain farts, not something that happen to me...unlike you my knowledge is a power to me. not some shitty kid phrase as you have said.

so yeah in plain and simple english,
fuck you and go fuck yourself!
mmkay? :o


Oh, then it's just the old sand being stuck up your vagina then.. And yea, I'm real afraid of threats from a prebuscent shitwad hiding behind a computer 1000 miles away from me.

unlike you my knowledge is a power to me. not some shitty kid phrase as you have said.

If knowledge is your only power, then you're severely fucking handicapped. I'm surprised you're not wearing a helmet and wearing a bright coloured shirt that says "I ride on the short bus".


so yeah in plain and simple english,
fuck you and go fuck yourself!
mmkay?

Nah, I don't agree, and if that's your version of English, go take some more ESL classes. :idea:

Dumbass.

[NYzNiCCa]

No, as a matter of fact it is not that time of the month for me. Yet, I still have the urge to fuckin' smack you upside your shallow head. Isn't that wonderful? Imagine if I actually was pms'ing, ahh well lucky bastard you are.
And random brain farts, not something that happen to me...unlike you my knowledge is a power to me. not some shitty kid phrase as you have said.

so yeah in plain and simple english,
fuck you and go fuck yourself!
mmkay? :o

:yikes: :Owned:

[dj XeNo]

lol thats technology not modernization the two are diff in many ways.

:rofl:

[Muslima786]

:rofl:
lol and my brain has stopped functioning...I thought I read something else...time to sleep.

[ZzoO]

:hyper:

[Cunard]

actually the iraqi army moved during ramadan also.

so did the "militants"

and cluster bombs were used.

the iraqi army was already defeated and destroyed when Ramadan roled around

the militants also targeted shia mosques during ramadan while also targeting churches......so i guess easy targets where on the table since they were hungry


and proof unguided cluster bombs were used on cities?

[dj XeNo]

they do...but preventing an army with guns moving is higher on a priority list then civilians who may be thirsty.......gotta tough it out...civilians can survive drinking somthing other then water while an army engaged in battle will not

like what lol?

u want them to drink soda or crystaal ??

even ASSUMING that these are available, how would the civilians get them if the roads and bridges were destroyed ?

cunard, i try to be fair and balanced with you, but these kind of posts you make really make you look intellectually challenged.

step up ur game if you want to battle with the pros.

[NYzNiCCa]

Its time to hit the bed.....i hope someone sent the link to JOHNNY 5....I really wanna see what he thinks of the whole situation.take kare yall

Allahhafiz! :grouphug:

[asian_guy_786]

Some aspects are great - others are imposed, and not so great.

Btw, PIA sucks. And I love the pind.

:werd:

[Cunard]

Some aspects are great - others are imposed, and not so great.

Btw, PIA sucks. And I love the pind.

should try to fly on PIA's new Boeing 777-200ER's.....they got video games in economy with those PTV's in the seat in front on you :)

[NYzNiCCa]

:werd:
and ur still awake! :slap2:

[asian_guy_786]

and ur still awake! :slap2:

:werd:

:hug:

[NYzNiCCa]

:hyper:

i gave the final statment but it didnt work......this is out of control like Iraq!

[dj XeNo]

the iraqi army was already defeated and destroyed when Ramadan roled around

the militants also targeted shia mosques during ramadan while also targeting churches......so i guess easy targets where on the table since they were hungry


and proof unguided cluster bombs were used on cities?

In his press conference, General Myers admitted that his forces had bombed civilian areas with cluster weapons. “In some cases, we hit those targets knowing that there would be a chance of potential collateral damage.” Myers went on to declare it was “unfortunate that we had to make these choices about hitting targets in civilian areas. But as we’ve said before, as well, war is not a tidy affair, it’s a very ugly affair”.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/may2003/clus-m06.shtml

[Muslima786]

should try to fly on PIA's new Boeing 777-200ER's.....they got video games in economy with those PTV's in the seat in front on you :)
i took that plane to Pakistan I think, it was awesome.

[Cunard]

like what lol?

u want them to drink soda or crystaal ??

even ASSUMING that these are available, how would the civilians get them if the roads and bridges were destroyed ?

cunard, i try to be fair and balanced with you, but these kind of posts you make really make you look intellectually challenged.

step up ur game if you want to battle with the pros.

since there was no mass dying of civilians from being thirsty.....i think my point stands...civilians found other things to drink while the Iraqi army was defeated in a matter of a few weeks

[NYzNiCCa]

When this thread was started, Kamran was specifically singled out and he wasn't even on. And, most people here aren't aware of what his job actually is anyway. It appears that they are just lashing out and taking pot shots at the nearest target. And if that is going to happen, he should at least be present.

I understand that sarcasm is often lost on people, and it seems so here as well. I got it perfectly well from the beginning. The actual point of my post was lost on you, and I've already explained what that was posts ago. If an argument is to be made, it is only fair that both sides are presented and accepted. Next time I'll make my points without sarcasm for the challenged.

People on both sides have lost loved ones. No one loss is worth less than another, every loss is tragic.

And the bolded part, do you have some higher power that I am unaware of?

i saw his reply in athread so i thought he was on....just to make that clear.

[asian_guy_786]

i took that plane to Pakistan I think, it was awesome.

:werd:

[Muslima786]

When this thread was started, Kamran was specifically singled out and he wasn't even on. And, most people here aren't aware of what his job actually is anyway. It appears that they are just lashing out and taking pot shots at the nearest target. And if that is going to happen, he should at least be present.

I understand that sarcasm is often lost on people, and it seems so here as well. I got it perfectly well from the beginning. The actual point of my post was lost on you, and I've already explained what that was posts ago. If an argument is to be made, it is only fair that both sides are presented and accepted. Next time I'll make my points without sarcasm for the challenged.

People on both sides have lost loved ones. No one loss is worth less than another, every loss is tragic.

And the bolded part, do you have some higher power that I am unaware of?
Kamran's work is entirely different, I don't think he's involved in combat. Hes there with some agency.

[dj XeNo]

since there was no mass dying of civilians from being thirsty.....i think my point stands...civilians found other things to drink while the Iraqi army was defeated in a matter of a few weeks

and what about those 4000 civilians that died every month since the gulf war because of the U.S.'s sanctions?

[iintoxiicatin]

Oh, then it's just the old sand being stuck up your vagina then.. And yea, I'm real afraid of threats from a prebuscent shitwad hiding behind a computer 1000 miles away from me.



If knowledge is your only power, then you're severely fucking handicapped. I'm surprised you're not wearing a helmet and wearing a bright coloured shirt that says "I ride on the short bus".




Nah, I don't agree, and if that's your version of English, go take some more ESL classes. :idea:


Dumbass.

alright then mr space cowboy. did i say it was my only power? no i did not and i do not see it in the text anywhere so go revise that for your own good. and speaking of threats, i didnt threat you and if u consider me saying something over internet a threat, then you truly do have issues. im surprised you havent done us all the favor of signing off and getting of ure computer and giving that seat of ures some rest. ha, e-threats make a difference to you? get a life bud.

and shitwad is in the english dictionary? no i didnt think so either.

imbecile (let me know if you need the definition to that)

[ZzoO]

i gave the final statment but it didnt work......this is out of control like Iraq!


no resolve, in the conflict and the discussion.

[Cunard]

i took that plane to Pakistan I think, it was awesome.

awsome planes...they can fly non stop from karachi to any US city if they wanted to.......its a 19 hour flight i think......but it beats layovers somwhere in europe or asia depending on which US coast the plane is leaving

plus PIA pilots are some of the best in the world.....they are trained in the US and usually come from the Pakistani Air Force

[Felonius Monk]

They could stop killing people by the thousands. I think that'd be a good direction to head in.

They could also stop leaving depleted uranium everywhere so that 60% of those hospitalised with cancer aren't children.

But seeing as how we're talking about the present - yes, there seems to be no hope even if they did pull out. A job well done on Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Who said there isnt hope. Just that right now, a pullout would simply result in attempted power grabs. One side will win for the time being. The violence and tension will continue. The government will not be allowed to function. Nothing changes. The same pattern can be seen over and over in tons of places where colonial powers just up and left leaving the locals to fight it out.

The pullout obviously has to come, but there needs to a common sense approach to instead of "OMG Bush evil, GTFO". At the very least a temporary compromise/agreement between the different competing sects must be reached and a status quo established. Tensions are inevitable, and they'll obviously be violence etc even then, but if they just leave at this point, the violence is going to be on a much much larger scale because there is no baseline to work from. Take the Partition violence and wars between India and Pakistan. Can you imagine how much worse it would have been if the Brits just left the drawing of a border to us. The wars wouldnt be about kashmir, they'd be for all of Punjab. If a full scalecivil war gets going, conflicts like that dont resolve for decades. I mentioned Afghanistan earlier. Take a look at their history post 1989 if you get a chance.

[asian_guy_786]

:werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd: :werd:

[ZzoO]

remember

i-rock

i-ran

:rofl:

[iintoxiicatin]

anyways. hitting the bed salman...ttyl
gnite Allah Hafiz :bhapi:

[Cunard]

and what about those 4000 civilians that died every month since the gulf war because of the U.S.'s sanctions?


UN sanctions :idea:

again...reason why i think the war was the lesser of two evils since the sanctions wouldnt have gone away unless Saddam came clean (which he could have since he didnt have anything anymore which was proved with this war) or Saddam going out of power (which is exactly what this war did)

sadly the fanatics have turned this war into a relgious war by claiming the US is targeting Iraq cause its muslim and that the US will steal Iraq oil

is there any example of the US stealing oil from the middle east?

[NYzNiCCa]

:werd:


Leave the man out of this, NYz.

what are his duties does anyone know?

well besides making signs for people.....working on his sigs....making threads on rd....posting pics on rd.....what else people what else!

[dj XeNo]

UN sanctions :idea:

again...reason why i think the war was the lesser of two evils since the sanctions wouldnt have gone away unless Saddam came clean (which he could have since he didnt have anything anymore which was proved with this war) or Saddam going out of power (which is exactly what this war did)

sadly the fanatics have turned this war into a relgious war by claiming the US is targeting Iraq cause its muslim and that the US will steal Iraq oil

is there any example of the US stealing oil from the middle east?

so if he didn't have anything, which you openly admit here, how is the war justifiable, or was that a Freudian slip on your part?

[asian_guy_786]

Right. But most people don't realize that and like to take shots at him anyway which I think is unfair. He always has to take the heat, and alone at that.

:werd:

[Cunard]

No way?! :hyper:

yeah way...the new planes are just like what emirates and singapore airlines have....but the ticket is so much cheaper

[Space-Cowboy]

alright then mr space cowboy. did i say it was my only power? no i did not and i do not see it in the text anywhere so go revise that for your own good. and speaking of threats, i didnt threat you and if u consider me saying something over internet a threat, then you truly do have issues. im surprised you havent done us all the favor of signing off and getting of ure computer and giving that seat of ures some rest. ha, e-threats make a difference to you? get a life bud.

and shitwad is in the english dictionary? no i didnt think so either.

imbecile (let me know if you need the definition to that)


There's a picture of you in the dictionary beside that word.


And look up the definition of 'threat' while you're at it. Basically it's any intent to do harm. I'm not surprised, though, given your linguistic skills, and your utter ineptness at grasping the understanding of basic English words. Maybe YOU should do us all a favour and stop breathing for a while, you're taking up valuable oxygen to those who are actually worthy.


Anyway, I'm done e-owning you. g'Night.

[Muslima786]

awsome planes...they can fly non stop from karachi to any US city if they wanted to.......its a 19 hour flight i think......but it beats layovers somwhere in europe or asia depending on which US coast the plane is leaving

plus PIA pilots are some of the best in the world.....they are trained in the US and usually come from the Pakistani Air Force
PIA pilots rock...I have a few in my family. They are very skillful and professional individuals.

The only flaw of PIA is that their service sucks. The flight attendents are so rude and the food :sick:

[asian_guy_786]

PIA pilots rock...I have a few in my family. They are very skillful and professional individuals.

The only flaw of PIA is that their service sucks. The flight attendents are so rude and the food :sick:

:werd:

[Muslima786]

Right. But most people don't realize that and like to take shots at him anyway which I think is unfair. He always has to take all the heat, and alone at that.
It is...but he knows how to handle it I guess, by ignoring!

[ZzoO]

awsome planes...they can fly non stop from karachi to any US city if they wanted to.......its a 19 hour flight i think......but it beats layovers somwhere in europe or asia depending on which US coast the plane is leaving

plus PIA pilots are some of the best in the world.....they are trained in the US and usually come from the Pakistani Air Force


the direct flight between pakistan and US got canceled right?

[Cunard]

so if he didn't have anything, which you openly admit here, how is the war justifiable, or was that a Freudian slip on your part?


the war was justified because Saddam never came clean...all of this wouldnt have happend if he stopped playing cat and mouse and just showed the UN inspectors he had nothing

that simple...instead of discussing the Iraq war.....we would be discussing how badly Iran is gonna get its ass kicked in the Fifa Cup :p

[Infamous23]

yo threadstarter, first of all you're not a "nicca"

second of all you can't generalize all troops by the actions of a few. i have many friends in the marines that are actually quite anti war and anti bush. what would you say to them? in the armed forces there are some great, respectful people and some scumbags, like in any group of people.

hey, 19 Muslims flew planes into the world trade center. so should I assume all muslims would do such things???

a white christian blew up a building in oklahoma. so all christians must do that, right?

hindus massacred thousands of sikhs, so all hindus must do this?

a sikh blew up a plane, so all sikhs must do this?

etc etc etc

don't generalize. if people generalize south asians and you get mad, then you're just a hypocrite

[asian_guy_786]

It is...but he knows how to handle it I guess, by ignoring!

:werd:

[Muslima786]

:werd:
and never take PIA domestic flight esp leaving from or going to lahore...damn punjabis :rofl: keeeding dont keel me.

[Space-Cowboy]

yo threadstarter, first of all you're not a "nicca"

second of all you can't generalize all troops by the actions of a few. i have many friends in the marines that are actually quite anti war and anti bush. what would you say to them? in the armed forces there are some great, respectful people and some scumbags, like in any group of people.

hey, 19 Muslims flew planes into the world trade center. so should I assume all muslims would do such things???

a white christian blew up a building in oklahoma. so all christians must do that, right?

hindus massacred thousands of sikhs, so all hindus must do this?

a sikh blew up a plane, so all sikhs must do this?

etc etc etc

don't generalize. if people generalize south asians and you get mad, then you're just a hypocrite

Excellent! :D

[FlyDesiGrl]

Right. But most people don't realize that and like to take shots at him anyway which I think is unfair. He always has to take all the heat, and alone at that.
he wont bother replying to this thread...

[asian_guy_786]

yo threadstarter, first of all you're not a "nicca"

second of all you can't generalize all troops by the actions of a few. i have many friends in the marines that are actually quite anti war and anti bush. what would you say to them? in the armed forces there are some great, respectful people and some scumbags, like in any group of people.

hey, 19 Muslims flew planes into the world trade center. so should I assume all muslims would do such things???

a white christian blew up a building in oklahoma. so all christians must do that, right?

hindus massacred thousands of sikhs, so all hindus must do this?

a sikh blew up a plane, so all sikhs must do this?

etc etc etc

don't generalize. if people generalize south asians and you get mad, then you're just a hypocrite


waah waah kiyaa baath hai....thaliyaa thaliyaa

:werd:

[Felonius Monk]

:werd:
You're doing a lot of :werd:ing

[Cunard]

the direct flight between pakistan and US got canceled right?

not sure....but they fly out of NY and NJ (both flights went through the UK)....i think there non stop service was between Pakistan and Houstan....but even that may be have a stop on South Korea or the UK since they fly there old 747-200's on that route once in awhile

[asian_guy_786]

and never take PIA domestic flight esp leaving from or going to lahore...damn punjabis :rofl: keeeding dont keel me.

you take the flying coach henna ? :p

[Muslima786]

Domestic PIA flights..... *shudder*
haha they actually aren't all that bad now. Plus its a like a max hour an a half or even less from karachi to lahore.

[dj XeNo]

the war was justified because Saddam never came clean...all of this wouldnt have happend if he stopped playing cat and mouse and just showed the UN inspectors he had nothing

that simple...instead of discussing the Iraq war.....we would be discussing how badly Iran is gonna get its ass kicked in the Fifa Cup :p

i don't care for soccer.

and im going to bed.

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[asian_guy_786]

You're doing a lot of :werd:ing

coz its :werd:licious

[Cunard]

PIA pilots rock...I have a few in my family. They are very skillful and professional individuals.

The only flaw of PIA is that their service sucks. The flight attendents are so rude and the food :sick:

yeah they are.....dad has only good things to say about them.....he was in the Indian Air Force in the 60's

PIA inflight service is rather low...hopefully the company will improve this image.....then again...flying on PIA is usually cheaper then flying on BA, Singapore, or Emirates

[dj XeNo]

i don't care for soccer.

and im going to bed.

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btw, i did post ur evidence about cluster bombs a few pages back i dont know if u read it.

[Muslima786]

you take the flying coach henna ? :p
lol, i always take the economy class...havent made it to first or bussiness class yet =[

[ZzoO]

not sure....but they fly out of NY and NJ (both flights went through the UK)....i think there non stop service was between Pakistan and Houstan....but even that may be have a stop on South Korea or the UK since they fly there old 747-200's on that route once in awhile


i think they stopped it for security reasons. they dont want direct planes coming here. well from pakistan that is

[ZzoO]

:rofl:



You know it's really late when you laugh at stuff like that. :ashamed:


time for u to go to bed. haha

[asian_guy_786]

lol, i always take the economy class...havent made it to first or bussiness class yet =[

phuck economy...to many kids crying and ppl walking around and talking...there be about 51561563 ppl outside the toilets....business class is much better....take that next time if you have the £££££££ :p

[Muslima786]

yeah they are.....dad has only good things to say about them.....he was in the Indian Air Force in the 60's

PIA inflight service is rather low...hopefully the company will improve this image.....then again...flying on PIA is usually cheaper then flying on BA, Singapore, or Emirates
Singapore Emirates and Malaysian airlines have the best service that I have encountered. Hopefully PIA will revamp its inflight service.

[Cunard]

btw, i did post ur evidence about cluster bombs a few pages back i dont know if u read it.

i didnt see it....will look back




@domestic flying in Pakistan is a bit hectic....some of those planes they are putting on domestic routes are the same planes that US carriers have retired and parked in the desert....PIA comes in and buys them dirt cheap...i guess desis really do like a deal :rofl:

but im sure they will replace there domestic aircraft too as soon as revenues start growing from there international routes

[asian_guy_786]

wow from war to PIA airlines...talk about going off topic

[Cunard]

Singapore Emirates and Malaysian airlines have the best service that I have encountered. Hopefully PIA will revamp its inflight service.

ive flown all thress...my only complaint with Emirates was when they turned me and dad away from boarding a plane in the UK because we has Israeli visa stamps in our passports.....it had never been a problem before and since that incident never a problem again.....im sure it has more to do with the fellow working for Emirates then Emirate policy since its a world class carrier

[Space-Cowboy]

wow from war to PIA airlines...talk about going off topic


Rather have that than the mindless religion bashing flame wars that threads like these eventually turn into.

[asian_guy_786]

Rather have that than the mindless religion bashing flame wars that threads like these eventually turn into.

:werd:

[Cunard]

wow from war to PIA airlines...talk about going off topic

im bias when it comes to planes....i love them


one of my nerdish hobbies :neutral:

[Muslima786]

Really? Hmm, I took two last year. All I remember is horrible food that made us all sick, rude flight attendants with too much makeup on, the smell of smoke... and some guy in a suit yelling at an old man [who couldn't understand english] because he was sitting in his seat, repeating the phrase "THIS IS MY ENTITLEMENT!"

:rofl: :rofl: I heard this rumor that the flight attendants are actually former prostitutes. Lol, and they sort of do look like ones with the caked on makeup and the way they stick their asses out as they walk around :p

The ones i took were'nt bad at all. I guess its because they were interconnecting international flights.

[Space-Cowboy]

:werd:


I think the root of all these problems really is Cheney and Haliburton. Bush is merely a 'figure-head'. They're all controlled by the large multi-nationals and super conglomerates that profit from warmachines.

The root of the problem all comes down to Corporate Social Responsibility.

[asian_guy_786]

has anyone seen X men 3... what a shit movie

im going more off topic :p

[asian_guy_786]

:werd:

:werd:

[ZzoO]

im bias when it comes to planes....i love them


one of my nerdish hobbies :neutral:


i do too, but because of my bro

[asian_guy_786]

I think the root of all these problems really is Cheney and Haliburton. Bush is merely a 'figure-head'. They're all controlled by the large multi-nationals and super conglomerates that profit from warmachines.

The root of the problem all comes down to Corporate Social Responsibility.

okay i didnt read that but ... :werd:

[Muslima786]

ive flown all thress...my only complaint with Emirates was when they turned me and dad away from boarding a plane in the UK because we has Israeli visa stamps in our passports.....it had never been a problem before and since that incident never a problem again.....im sure it has more to do with the fellow working for Emirates then Emirate policy since its a world class carrier

lol, yea i don't think its a Emirates policy. Did you file in some sort of complaint for that?

[asian_guy_786]

ACHA?!

jee... muthjee needth ayeee hai... appne nahee neeni kar ni

[asian_guy_786]

:rofl: :rofl: I heard this rumor that the flight attendants are actually former prostitutes. Lol, and they sort of do look like ones with the caked on makeup and the way they stick their asses out as they walk around :p

The ones i took were'nt bad at all. I guess its because they were interconnecting international flights.

:ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :rofl:

[Space-Cowboy]

okay i didnt read that but ... :werd:


Seriously, it all comes down to our problems with greedy, faceless power hungry corporations. Who so happen to be the silent controllers of the most powerful nation at this time [U.S.]..... and that is a very dangerous state of affairs indeed.

You'll not find a more anti-American person than me.




But hey, according to that dipshit girl that was dissing me earlier, I'm apparently an American fanatic....


:rofl:

[Space-Cowboy]

Again, :werd: x 5.

W3Rd

[Cunard]

i do too, but because of my bro

yeah i got into it cause of dad who flew in the Indian Air Force.....i got a chacha that flies for BMI in the UK...another one that also flew with BMI just retired...and now i have two cousins flying transports in the CDN airforce


pretty much most of dad side is in aviation or the military at some point of time :)

[Muslima786]

Seriously, it all comes down to our problems with greedy, faceless power hungry corporations. Who so happen to be the silent controllers of the most powerful nation at this time [U.S.]..... and that is a very dangerous state of affairs indeed.

You'll not find a more anti-American person than me.




But hey, according to that dipshit girl that was dissing me earlier, I'm apparently an American fanatic....


:rofl:
haha yea, I was about to say. You're more anti American than me :love: or maybe not =P

[asian_guy_786]

Seriously, it all comes down to our problems with greedy, faceless power hungry corporations. Who so happen to be the silent controllers of the most powerful nation at this time [U.S.]..... and that is a very dangerous state of affairs indeed.

You'll not find a more anti-American person than me.




But hey, according to that dipshit girl that was dissing me earlier, I'm apparently an American fanatic....


:rofl:


:werd:

all im gona say is.... ill pray for world peace ...even though its not gona happen but ...yeha :D

[Space-Cowboy]

haha yea, I was about to say. You're more anti American than me :love: or maybe not =P


There's a reason why I don't live in the U.S. The "American Dream" is complete and utter bullshit. It's only a dream if you're White, Anglo-saxon Protestant. And truly especially if you're elite/upperclass.

[asian_guy_786]

Hawww, tenu sharam te ni aundi?

Innuendo. I know it. :Paper:

haha hey dont you understand urdu....looks like you dont....:p

?

[Cunard]

lol, yea i don't think its a Emirates policy. Did you file in some sort of complaint for that?

Dad complained to somone and we got put on a MEA flight to Beruit where we transffered onto an Emirates flight to Dubai

[Cunard]

There's a reason why I don't live in the U.S. The "American Dream" is complete and utter bullshit. It's only a dream if you're White, Anglo-saxon Protestant. And truly especially if you're elite/upperclass.

there is no difference if u live in Canada or America as long as u can handle working hard........theres more desis in the US then Canada.....are they not living a good life?

[Muslima786]

:werd:
:rofl: ok i need sleep bye yall!

[asian_guy_786]

:werd:

damn my foot got Pins and needles :hyper:

[Space-Cowboy]

Tsk. That's what happens when you don't pass ESL. :no:


:p


Don't get me wrong I'm all for having intellectual debates regarding such topics... but how many threads like this do you know on RD that don't end up with "You're people suck, my people rule, bla bla bla"?

I wish this site would have a "Debate" forum where we could all head to.

[asian_guy_786]

No I did. I was just being ghey and making false accusations. :ashamed:

tut tut...israa nahee karthey....bhoori bhaath :neutral:

[asian_guy_786]

:rofl: ok i need sleep bye yall!

Allah Hafiz

yaaaaaaaaaalll :p

[Space-Cowboy]

there is no difference if u live in Canada or America as long as u can handle working hard........theres more desis in the US then Canada.....are they not living a good life?

Proportionately there's a lot more "grunt working" or low income desis in the U.S. than here. That's a FACT.

[Cunard]

Proportionately there's a lot more "grunt working" or low income desis in the U.S. than here. That's a FACT.

i doubt it...only major CDN city where Indian desi immigrants are pretty fresh in large numbers is Toronto...and they for the most part work in factories....same as there american counterparts

Indians in Vancouver, Edmonton, and Calgary are much more established since they have been here for many years

[Space-Cowboy]

i doubt it...only major CDN city where Indian desi immigrants are pretty fresh in large numbers is Toronto...and they for the most part work in factories....same as there american counterparts

Indians in Vancouver, Edmonton, and Calgary are much more established since they have been here for many years


If you check the statistics, you'll find that the ones in Toronto have a much easier time adjusting than the ones in say Philadelphia, or Boston.



And remember, money isn't the end all be all of established security. The promise of more $$$ in the U.S. guarantees nothing.

[Space-Cowboy]

Anyway, I'm out. night. :wavey: