Good news for all the Ismailis...

[shamera]

Prince Rahim is getting engaged...((or has gotten engaged already)) to a girl in Houston. They'll announce it in Jamat Khanna today. =)

[NdNStaTEofMinD]

Who Prince Rahim be?

[sarb]

lykeOMGnoWay!!!

[Iman01]

Prince Rahim is getting engaged...((or has gotten engaged already)) to a girl in Houston. They'll announce it in Jamat Khanna today. =)
thanks babes

[shamera]

thanks babes
You're not an Ismaili...are you?!

*drools*

[Iman01]

You're not an Ismaili...are you?!

*drools*
lol
no im afraid not

im half white, quarter arab quarter paki

[shamera]

lol
no im afraid not

im half white, quarter arab quarter paki
Arghhh you got my hopes up for no reason!

[Iman01]

Arghhh you got my hopes up for no reason!

u still wanna chat, i dont mind going :rolleyes:

[shamera]

u still wanna chat, i dont mind going :rolleyes:
Suree :love:

[Iman01]

Suree :love:

so what actually is a ismailll...

and r u one?

[shamera]

so what actually is a ismailll...

and r u one?
Its a sect in Islam...and yes I am one.

[Unsigned Hype]

Its a sect in Islam...and yes I am one.
its not islam dont get it twisted........

[Iman01]

Its a sect in Islam...and yes I am one.
mashallah

im a hashmi qurash

[WhatDidYouSay!?]

its not islam dont get it twisted........

:rofl:

your sig!

[fireangel2007]

Thanks Shamera!


I just got home from an exam and can't make it today, but thats really exciting!!!! :D

[fireangel2007]

its not islam dont get it twisted........
seriously shutup, and quit instigating, this is a happy thread, not let me explain who ismailies are...so like seriously SHUTUP

:wavey:

[mr photographer]

Prince Rahim is getting engaged...((or has gotten engaged already)) to a girl in Houston. They'll announce it in Jamat Khanna today. =)

do we really care :sarb:

[hellayah]

Really not too offend anyone but i thought he was openly gay or something and they didnt wanna pass the title on too his sister

[fireangel2007]

Really not too offend anyone but i thought he was openly gay or something and they didnt wanna pass the title on too his sister
what title? and gay? i mean really...really people where do you get your news from?

[-Stax0-]

its not islam dont get it twisted........

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

:eek: :eek: :eek:

[fireangel2007]

do we really care :sarb:if you don't care then don't post, some people here are very offensive, if you don't care, don't post and don't start anything please....

[hellayah]

what title? and gay? i mean really...really people where do you get your news from?
title meaning taking over as spiritual leader of the sect....and yes i heard he was gay from another Ismaili. So i guess i heard wrong i was just looking for clarification

[shamera]

its not islam dont get it twisted........
So now you're gonna tell me what religion I am?

[shamera]

Thanks Shamera!


I just got home from an exam and can't make it today, but thats really exciting!!!! :D
=) We might have dandia over here tonite.

[hellayah]

So now you're gonna tell me what religion I am?
Its basically an offspring of the shia sect is it not

[Unsigned Hype]

So now you're gonna tell me what religion I am?
no ismailism is not a sect of islam ......... you are a Ismaili not muslim

[fireangel2007]

title meaning taking over as spiritual leader of the sect....and yes i heard he was gay from another Ismaili. So i guess i heard wrong i was just looking for clarification
its okay, but seriously the taking over and all that is pretty much in Allah's hands, we're not supposed to suggest or even think about , i mean think about it but not like discuss it discuss it ya know?

[mr photographer]

if you don't care then don't post, some people here are very offensive, if you don't care, don't post and don't start anything please....

not like he's real royalty like the Queen of England ... he's just a normal being with an inherited title :rolleyes:

Do you worship this guy :sarb:

[shamera]

do we really care :sarb:
Obviously you dont...lol :neutral: That's why you should really pay attention to the title of the thread...lol don't get yourself involved in things youre uninvited to...

[fireangel2007]

no ismailism is not a sect of islam ......... you are a Ismaili not muslim
we shia imami nizari ismaili muslims.....so there! and go read some literature and make another thread if ur so concerned

[Unsigned Hype]

Its basically an offspring of the shia sect is it not
no
I have no right to judge you but I can offer some valuable informations to help you get to the conclusion by yourself -- that Ismaili's are not Muslim.

It is a well known fact that all Muslims must at least adhere to the five pillars in order to meet the basic requirements of being called a Muslim.

Let's compare:

Pillar 1: The Shahada/tauhid

Ismaili's: recite the shahada and then add there own nonsence about Ali and the present living imam. Tauhid is to affirm that Allah is one. He needs no partners. Ismaili's pray and give sajood to Aga Khan in hopes that Aga Khan will help them reach Allah!

Pillar 2: Salat: 5 times a day.

This made clear by numerous sahih hadiths (true and sound) that we must pray 5 times a day, the way the Prophet (PBUH) prayed.

Ismaili's: made up their own prayer which totally contradicts itself. Let's look at the first part in your du'a... in Surah Fatiha you recite "IYYAKA NAABDU WA IYYAKA NASTAYEEN" (meaning; "To Thee Alone we worship and from Thee Alone we seek help")- meaning Allah. But then you are told to recite, "TAWAS-SALU 'INDAL-MASAYIBI, BI-MAWLAKUMIL-HADIRIL-MAWJUD SHAH KARIMIL-HUSSAINY" (meaning; "Seek at the time of difficulties, the help of your Lord, the present living Shah Karim al-Hussainy". This speaks for itself. You are associating partners with Allah -- he needs no help! This is total shirk! A huge sin in Islam!

Pillar 3: Fasting

This fard for Muslims (obligitory).

Ismaili's: don't think so -- they believe that they are too spiritual and too advanced in knowledge to fast. They believe in the esoteric fast -- can you tell me what that means, because I have no clue what you refrain from esoterically. You people drink, have pre-marital sex and support gays... I really don't understand where your "inner-spirituality" comes from.

Pillar 4: Hajj

This is fard on a Muslim if they can afford to do it once in their lifetime.

Ismaili's: Don't go on Hajj but rather travel to get didar from Aga khan and value seeing him in person more than hajj.

Pillar 5: Zakat

I have to give you credit, Ismaili's are big on helping. However, you give more than you should and majority of it goes to pamper your beloved Aga Khan and his plastic surgury nightmare of a second wife. Just think about all those quarters and dollars you spill out on a daily bases twice a day.

So as you can see by the most basic standards of what it is to be a Muslim, Ismiali's fail. All other sects in Islam follow at least these basic rules. Ismaili's do not... I think it's safe to call this sect non-Muslim.[1]

I urge you to look outside the box and to re-evaluate your faith... please read the Quran, it answered all of your questions and opened your eyes.

[shamera]

what title? and gay? i mean really...really people where do you get your news from?
It's pissing me off just as much...

[shamera]

no ismailism is not a sect of islam ......... you are a Ismaili not muslim
You're a monkey not a human.

[fireangel2007]

not like he's real royalty like the Queen of England ... he's just a normal being with an inherited title :rolleyes:

Do you worship this guy :sarb:
They are considered Royalty elsewhere, the titles i believe were given to them the family by a Queen so it is valid, and we don't worship him, hes a prophet, ecxcept we call him Imam, just go and google Aga Khan. Besides a leader he is a leading humanitarian and philanthropist

[Unsigned Hype]

You're a monkey not a human.
lets have a little bit more class than callin names lol go read my post above.......

[shamera]

no
I have no right to judge you but I can offer some valuable informations to help you get to the conclusion by yourself -- that Ismaili's are not Muslim.

It is a well known fact that all Muslims must at least adhere to the five pillars in order to meet the basic requirements of being called a Muslim.

Let's compare:

Pillar 1: The Shahada/tauhid

Ismaili's: recite the shahada and then add there own nonsence about Ali and the present living imam. Tauhid is to affirm that Allah is one. He needs no partners. Ismaili's pray and give sajood to Aga Khan in hopes that Aga Khan will help them reach Allah!

Pillar 2: Salat: 5 times a day.

This made clear by numerous sahih hadiths (true and sound) that we must pray 5 times a day, the way the Prophet (PBUH) prayed.

Ismaili's: made up their own prayer which totally contradicts itself. Let's look at the first part in your du'a... in Surah Fatiha you recite "IYYAKA NAABDU WA IYYAKA NASTAYEEN" (meaning; "To Thee Alone we worship and from Thee Alone we seek help")- meaning Allah. But then you are told to recite, "TAWAS-SALU 'INDAL-MASAYIBI, BI-MAWLAKUMIL-HADIRIL-MAWJUD SHAH KARIMIL-HUSSAINY" (meaning; "Seek at the time of difficulties, the help of your Lord, the present living Shah Karim al-Hussainy". This speaks for itself. You are associating partners with Allah -- he needs no help! This is total shirk! A huge sin in Islam!

Pillar 3: Fasting

This fard for Muslims (obligitory).

Ismaili's: don't think so -- they believe that they are too spiritual and too advanced in knowledge to fast. They believe in the esoteric fast -- can you tell me what that means, because I have no clue what you refrain from esoterically. You people drink, have pre-marital sex and support gays... I really don't understand where your "inner-spirituality" comes from.

Pillar 4: Hajj

This is fard on a Muslim if they can afford to do it once in their lifetime.

Ismaili's: Don't go on Hajj but rather travel to get didar from Aga khan and value seeing him in person more than hajj.

Pillar 5: Zakat

I have to give you credit, Ismaili's are big on helping. However, you give more than you should and majority of it goes to pamper your beloved Aga Khan and his plastic surgury nightmare of a second wife. Just think about all those quarters and dollars you spill out on a daily bases twice a day.

So as you can see by the most basic standards of what it is to be a Muslim, Ismiali's fail. All other sects in Islam follow at least these basic rules. Ismaili's do not... I think it's safe to call this sect non-Muslim.[1]

I urge you to look outside the box and to re-evaluate your faith... please read the Quran, it answered all of your questions and opened your eyes.

Just like we think you guys are terrorists? Oh yeah...then of course you have the right to judge us. Go ahead, go kill more people in the name of Allah.

[fireangel2007]

It's pissing me off just as much...
lol next time just get a list of ismailies on forums and just pm everyone, some people here are just too narrow minded and have mis information

[Unsigned Hype]

Just like we think you guys are terrorists? Oh yeah...then of course you have the right to judge us. Go ahead, go kill more people in the name of Allah.
you make no sense little girl.....

[hellayah]

its okay, but seriously the taking over and all that is pretty much in Allah's hands, we're not supposed to suggest or even think about , i mean think about it but not like discuss it discuss it ya know?
Ok i thought that the family is supposedly the direct decendent of Prophet Muhammed (saw) and that it stays within the family.

[Cunard]

Just like we think you guys are terrorists? Oh yeah...then of course you have the right to judge us. Go ahead, go kill more people in the name of Allah.

:rofl:

she has a point though...ismails dont go around blowing up resort hotels

[khanbaba_]

Ismailis Are Not Muslims..they Kafirs..

[fireangel2007]

=) We might have dandia over here tonite.
our jamat is too small and we don't have a hall, but im sure therell be something soon!

have fun!

[shamera]

They are considered Royalty elsewhere, the titles i believe were given to them the family by a Queen so it is valid, and we don't worship him, hes a prophet, ecxcept we call him Imam, just go and google Aga Khan. Besides a leader he is a leading humanitarian and philanthropist

Exactly, so all of you ignorant people who don't want to respect our religion-- the least you could do is respect this honorable person for accomplishing only what a few could dream about in life.

[Unsigned Hype]

Ismailis Are Not Muslims..they Kafirs..
thank you

[harvey_mayway]

Obviously you dont...lol :neutral: That's why you should really pay attention to the title of the thread...lol don't get yourself involved in things youre uninvited to...


Hi Shamera


how u doin?

[Unsigned Hype]

Exactly, so all of you ignorant people who don't want to respect our religion-- the least you could do is respect this honorable person for accomplishing only what a few could dream about in life.
no one is tryin to put you down i am saying dont get it twisted its not part of islam no one is disrespecting your religion........

[fireangel2007]

Ok i thought that the family is supposedly the direct decendent of Prophet Muhammed (saw) and that it stays within the family.
They are, but....the next imam is of course from the family, it could be the grandchild like Mawla Bapa was or the direct child of the present Imam....for example possible choices could be Prince Rahim, Prince Hussain, or Prince Aly Mohammad, or their offsprings

[hellayah]

no
I have no right to judge you but I can offer some valuable informations to help you get to the conclusion by yourself -- that Ismaili's are not Muslim.

It is a well known fact that all Muslims must at least adhere to the five pillars in order to meet the basic requirements of being called a Muslim.

Let's compare:

Pillar 1: The Shahada/tauhid

Ismaili's: recite the shahada and then add there own nonsence about Ali and the present living imam. Tauhid is to affirm that Allah is one. He needs no partners. Ismaili's pray and give sajood to Aga Khan in hopes that Aga Khan will help them reach Allah!

Pillar 2: Salat: 5 times a day.

This made clear by numerous sahih hadiths (true and sound) that we must pray 5 times a day, the way the Prophet (PBUH) prayed.

Ismaili's: made up their own prayer which totally contradicts itself. Let's look at the first part in your du'a... in Surah Fatiha you recite "IYYAKA NAABDU WA IYYAKA NASTAYEEN" (meaning; "To Thee Alone we worship and from Thee Alone we seek help")- meaning Allah. But then you are told to recite, "TAWAS-SALU 'INDAL-MASAYIBI, BI-MAWLAKUMIL-HADIRIL-MAWJUD SHAH KARIMIL-HUSSAINY" (meaning; "Seek at the time of difficulties, the help of your Lord, the present living Shah Karim al-Hussainy". This speaks for itself. You are associating partners with Allah -- he needs no help! This is total shirk! A huge sin in Islam!

Pillar 3: Fasting

This fard for Muslims (obligitory).

Ismaili's: don't think so -- they believe that they are too spiritual and too advanced in knowledge to fast. They believe in the esoteric fast -- can you tell me what that means, because I have no clue what you refrain from esoterically. You people drink, have pre-marital sex and support gays... I really don't understand where your "inner-spirituality" comes from.

Pillar 4: Hajj

This is fard on a Muslim if they can afford to do it once in their lifetime.

Ismaili's: Don't go on Hajj but rather travel to get didar from Aga khan and value seeing him in person more than hajj.

Pillar 5: Zakat

I have to give you credit, Ismaili's are big on helping. However, you give more than you should and majority of it goes to pamper your beloved Aga Khan and his plastic surgury nightmare of a second wife. Just think about all those quarters and dollars you spill out on a daily bases twice a day.

So as you can see by the most basic standards of what it is to be a Muslim, Ismiali's fail. All other sects in Islam follow at least these basic rules. Ismaili's do not... I think it's safe to call this sect non-Muslim.[1]

I urge you to look outside the box and to re-evaluate your faith... please read the Quran, it answered all of your questions and opened your eyes.
I follow the 5 pillars of Islam and i believe in the 6 articles of faith....I follow the Quran as it was revealed to Prophet Muhammed (saw). I follow the original sunnah and hadith.........Yet according to u i am not muslim either because i belong to the Ahmadi sect.

[fireangel2007]

no one is tryin to put you down i am saying dont get it twisted its not part of islam no one is disrespecting your religion........
ISLAM IS ISLAM....it has 72 sects, and we are one of them....TOLERANCE...TOLERANCE....quit being so ignorant

[shamera]

lol next time just get a list of ismailies on forums and just pm everyone, some people here are just too narrow minded and have mis information
haha man...its unfortunate though that these people can consider themselves as being muslims. They need to learn not what the religion is about but rather how they can follow that religion...and the answer to that is not by bashing other religions...

[Unsigned Hype]

ISLAM IS ISLAM....it has 72 sects, and we are one of them....TOLERANCE...TOLERANCE....quit being so ignorant
hey i am all about acceptance i accept you as an Ismaili i dont know why ur gettin worked up........

[shamera]

you make no sense little girl.....
Little boy, that just adds to my previous claim of your idiocy.

[hellayah]

They are, but....the next imam is of course from the family, it could be the grandchild like Mawla Bapa was or the direct child of the present Imam....for example possible choices could be Prince Rahim, Prince Hussain, or Prince Aly Mohammad, or their offsprings
Ok, and then is his name changed to Aga Khan

[shamera]

Hi Shamera


how u doin?
Great how are you? =)

[shamera]

no one is tryin to put you down i am saying dont get it twisted its not part of islam no one is disrespecting your religion........
How is not a part of Islam? Sure, its not part of the Sunni sect...but we can say the same about you guys...can't we? You guys aren't true muslims...

[pnp366]

thanks for the info that the prince is getting married.

and lets not fight.

[fireangel2007]

hey i am all about acceptance i accept you as an Ismaili i dont know why ur gettin worked up........
you're saying we're not muslims...thats why...im not trying to be loud or mean or w/e but really you guys need to be more open minded when talking about things like that and saying stuff as such, it is offensive when half the time people are just bsing out of their mouths w/o evidence, and even with it, its not reliable source....everything has plurality and so does Islam, whether its in the sects which in turn each has plurality in its traditions but we all follow Allah, we pray, we pay dasond/zakat, we agree with Tauheed/Shahada, and we all try to do Hajj if possible....so why aren't we muslims?